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Pytes: you get what you pay for
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- Опубліковано 15 чер 2023
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Because of you Scott (and Chris!) I have a xfer switch in my setup, did not think of it when was first trying to figure out what I should get
I commissioned my Sol-Ark 15K this weekend and have to agree, their support is amazing. I just had a simple problem due to me being impatient/not knowing the product well, but they had me going in about 5 minutes. Our current setup has no grid sell (interconnection agreement pending), so we are in limit to load mode but it is awesome generating power on your own.
Battery choices makes my head swim! Who knows the longevity of all these brands. I feel solid in the sol-ark choice given your history with them. Another great video. Thanks for doing what you do.
As far as cells go, I don't really find much concern if you pick a brand with a good reputation. The BMS could crap out, etc, but in terms of battery chemistry this isn't new tech.
yes on the "head swimming"!! I am in the same boat. I am in the indecision spiral right now lol
About the same as all of our Chinese sourced junky automobiles, appliances, HVAC systems….10-15 yrs. Anything over 15 yrs, consider yourself very lucky.
I want to retire down near where you are just so I can hire your company to install a complete solar system. Love the videos and your approach to running an honest business with a focus on quality.
Aghhhhhh! Just when I thought I had landed on a battery vendor/solution you have to throw a curve ball and show us yet another really nice solution lol. I have a 15K and I am looking to add about 15K in batteries for TOU load assistance. These look really nice and I love that they play with Sol-Ark perfectly and do closed loop comms
Scott, another great video! Cheers, Mate.
As always, you make great videos! Thank you very much for the recommendation for my video 😊
We're doing an off-grid installation with 6 of these units and a S-A 12k. Planning to use their indoor enclosed cabinet. I like what you did with paralleling pairs and using 3 equal home-runs to a busbar. I felt like those factory cables are undersized to run 9,000W continuous (in my case). I like using 4/0 for off-grid since it's going to get worked every day. It's a small investment with years of efficiency in mind. I'm hoping to learn more about their cabinet. The website doesn't offer much guidance on it. I'll probably just have to stay tuned for your video on it.
always with knowledgeable contents! Thanks for this. We'll be waiting for the next Pytes reviews. Just wondering why did you set up the 6 batteries in 3 parallel?
Pytes is also introducing their new battery along these lines, the V5°. I think they will directly compatible, but I’m not certain.
great info, thank you.
I like the pytes, better priced than home grid? I wish they had a better enclosure. Trying to think through a good home backup system.
I know you would have to switch to voltage control instead of SOC, but what do you think about paralleling the Pytes with the EG4? They are both 16S LiFePO4, so… I think the HomeGrid is the best looking, but they decided to only using a 15S configuration.
Are there any cheaper 200a manual transfer switches? The GE ones cost an arm and a leg now for some reason.
What is the typical power consumption of these batteries? The BMS and relay/contactors being used will consume power. Also, what kind of circuit protection is installed in these batteries? Do they have class-T fuses?
i know you put them in as a test but would it also work if you got the other stacks in to the mix and as such just go completely off-grid with what you have.
after all sometimes you just buy whats available and no the most expensive then later you might want to expand your system and buy batteries from a different brand.
What's this battery's self-consumption? I'm liking it and still deciding how to dump my eFlex...
Have you reviewed the Storz battery solution with Sol-Ark?
There are a couple Fortress batteries in there somewhere aren't there...? I thought I saw a previous video where there were a couple waiting to be installed.
How’s it going so far with the Pytes? Have you paralleled the other 16s LiFEPO4 all together yet?
at 2k$ for 5 kwh waaay to expensive.
Find me one cheaper if this true, its on ca energy commision and ul listed or reconized to be allowed for grid tie
@@CRsolar all EG4 batteries at signature solar and other brands.
@@no-eb2xx show me they are on CA energy commission - they wont tell me the real brand - they maybe on it
So are new lifted 4wd trucks, Razor 1000’s, Harley’s, Airplanes, Vacations, but we all have the money for our priorities in life.
I have schneider and i see that can do it open loop. Ihave the info but it dont nowhere like configuring dip switches. I saw some information about dip switches but it only gives you two actual options but not which one to use. I would like someone to help me.
What's the weight for each battery?
Hello. Thanks for what you do. I saw another video you did reviewing the HomeGrid battery. In your opinion, which is the better purchase… Pytes or HomeGrid?
A couple of questions.
On the batteries, the connectors look rather small for the amount of amps the system can do.
Second, can the sol-ark be used without being connected to the cloud? I do not want any outside connections to my system.
If you connect more batteries (more than 3pcs ) , bus bar are needed -- and the system could do bigger amount of amps==
Where are those 3K Sol-Ark's you were talking about?
ENGINEER 775 GREAT INFORMATIVE VIDEO.
WILL YOU BE DOING A SIMILAR VIDEO ON THE KILOVAULT HAB 7.5 kWh v4 & THE NEW KILOVAULT HAB-XL 19.2 kWh?
Yes, I just installed eight of those
@@engineer775 OKAY GREAT! WE LOOK FORWARD TO SEEING YOUR VIDEO ON THAT INSTALLATION!
THANKS, I CHOSE A SOL-ARK 15k FROM FOLLOWING YOUR INSTALLATIONS.
WE ARE FLOOR FOOTPRINT CHALLENGED. IT WOULD APPEAR THE PYTES FLOOR FOOTPRINT PROVIDES BETTER VERTICAL EXPANSION.
With my Meritsun batteries, I could know if the batteries they were selling me were used or not, but how do I know if I am the first one using these pyte batteries ? Last battery I bought had over 400 cicles used . These solar companies are in the habit of selling used batteries to their clients as knew and there has to be a way to check this out when purchasing new batteries
What bussbar did you use?
Have you had any issues with the UL 9540 spacing on the batteries? Here in San Diego they require 3ft between batteries. Have you had any issues with AC coupling enphase micro inverters? I am have issues with the solark inverters ramping down the PV input when they shouldn’t.
4.6.2 ESS shall be comprised of groups with a maximum
stored energy of 50 kWh each.
4.6.3 Each group shall be spaced a minimum 3 ft (914 mm)
from other groups and from walls in the storage room or area
No flore rollers for it???
I bet the price is out of reach of most too.
cost of one battery?
In my opinion, the battery to battery parallel is an inferior design. A common busbar provides better balance. Stacking is also inferior, as it makes maintenance on an individual battery very difficult. Its all about the cells and the BMS.
homegird is best right? and made in usa?
OEM IN CHINA
i really like the pytes, untill i found out that at the time they could only do 50a per battery
Pytes is launching new server rack battery which supports 100A: ua-cam.com/video/Bh8mrjY6HE4/v-deo.html. but we always recommend to charge and discharge the battery slowly to prolong the cycle life of the battery.
50A is 2500w per battery continuous for two hours. Four batteries is 10kwh. Are you melting ice at the north pole?
@@Zimmsters no, but my heatpump, dryer and other things make for me to have a high peek demand at times..
So, I have a 200a BMS, connected in a rack enclosure, connected to 304 cells for 200a continues ( have 8 of those enclosures, pretty sure you can do the math)
@Engineer775 - I admit, I like the look of the Pytes batteries, but I do NOT like their enclosure options at all. I get why you may like the easy stack system, but for me having all that wiring in the open is a hard stop NO. 6 year olds like to pull on on things, like wires.
I would insist on a lockable, practical, and cost -to- value rack solution. The Pytes enclosure rack solutions are far too expensive for what you get. I install high end rack systems for enterprise; some with cooling, some without, anywhere from single 2U to multiple large 3U UPSs, with 1U and 2U servers, etc. The Pytes battery racks are more expensive than even a large 48U industrial server rack compared to getting 3 rack units for 6 batteries? umm, no. Just look at APC, Schneider, EATON, Panduit, etc../rack grumble off
I do wonder if they'd fit in an EG4 Rack? Don't have to use the buss bar with these... HHHHMMMMMmmmmmm
What does time of use mean?
It’s a programming option in the inverter software where you can select days of the year, days of the week and times of day where you want to lessen or avoid drawing power from the grid-usually due to increased utility kWh/cost during a time period of the day. Lets you charge up the batteries before or after that time and then use them and not draw from the grid during those peak charge times of day.
Ferrile or Ferrrite? :P
How much does each battery cost, roughly......
My question too... guess we wait on his response now.
They are $2,000 each, so that stack of 6 would run you $12,000 plus tax and shipping. With the Sol-Ark, panels, cabling, etc. you're looking at a $50k+ system. Going off-grid is a rich man's game.
@@frenchopotamus Thank you for the reality check; I too have been amazed by how the hype obscures true TCO, granted it's not all coming out-of-pocket but just a hard question if I may: you can't even run 2 ton mini-split on such spec yes? For an 8-hours/day 2 ton AC run; off-grid what would be the required spec and system cost, in your opinion?
@@bubba1984 I'm no expert, but there's a lot that goes into deciding how big a system you need for a given load, esp. AC vs. DC loads. You need to figure out load power usage, find an inverter that can supply the amperage, and handle the huge motor start current draws for non-inverter heat pumps, decide how much battery reserve you need for bad weather days, how much solar/wind/hydro you might need, etc. There are some decent online solar system calculators that help you determine what specs you need.
Not sure how I feel about Amphenol connectors. I know their coax is garbage now that they moved to China.
Engineer775 - Would the harsh inspector in your area consider the 200A bypass as the grid disconnect with fused terminals?
Are the Pytes home run cables long enough to make it back to the Sol-Ark placed near the inverter and skipping the gutter?
That would make a really quick minimum viable grid-tie with the 15K + 4 Pytes.
You would have to program the inverter down to 200A / 10kW backup to stay within Pytes capability of the 48100 series.
Is this one listed on CA energy commision? Can you get interconnetion aggreement on it.?
Guess you dont worry about this in your area or they maybe not using this as a qualification for interconnect to grid?
I alsp worry some hacker could crash the grid with all these , china direct equipment or any other equipment . The usa needs to make sure and backword engineer anything that will connect to the grid.. and i believe any thing connected to grid needs to be isolated from internet. I know this will upset a few people. pirates i am afraid will be fined when the utility sees you dont have an interconnection and yearly inspection. Dang this sucks.. i see this coming. As the good grid is needed..
it is CEC listed. it is UL9540 (with solark)/UL9540A/UL1973 and on SGIP as well
@@pytesecho1876i will search for it. Many i cant find listed, when i see a new battery by most youtubers. Is it under another name?
Fe to the next level i suppose haha
That wiring configuration makes no sense to me.
Just like non harley parts lol
buy crap buy twice
Too much movement of the camera.... dizzyyyy
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