unoaked It’s not an error in the title; it is a very misguided, muddled and un-international attempt to re-number the symphonies ‘chronologically’ instead of using the universally used Hoboken catalogue numbers. The re-numbering is utterly futile as it is impossible to date correctly all 104 (+), symphonies, so even a revised ‘chronological’ list will include a number of works that can only be dated approximately and appear in the complete edition as ‘c.1761’, or ‘1767 or 1768’, and so forth. That said, the more accurate chronological lists suggested by Larsen, HC Robbins Landon, Sonja Gerlach, et al, are essential for studying the development of the symphony, and for scholars; they do *not* however replace Hoboken as a universal reference point. Any attempt at a chronological list, whilst being more accurate than the Hoboken list - which adopted the numbers unaltered from Mandyczewski who in 1907 created the currently well-known and commonly used numbers - can never be definitive as too many works cannot be dated definitively. Additionally, on Haydn’s extant manuscripts, he usually just wrote the year - not the month; the obvious problem being that if he wrote more than one in a year, then those dated for example 1765 (Symphonies 28, 29, 30, and 31), or 1772 (Symphonies 45, 46, and 47), still cannot be correctly ordered. In short: stick to Mandyczewski/Hoboken numbers; anything else, as in this case is simply confusing and serves no useful purpose; scholars and anyone else interested can find quasi-chronological best scholarly guess lists easily enough by simply searching *haydn symphonies chronology.*
Музыка Гайдна почти всегда узнаваема и весьма приятна для слуха и что удивительно не надоедает. Что-то есть в ней сказочное. Оркестр и дирижер идеально подходят к исполнению этого произведения.Слушаю его, и наслаждаюсь звучанием. Спасибо. Привет из Киева.
Сьогодні, 1 листопада 2022 року, я читаю цей ваш коментар, який ви написали два роки тому. Враховуючи жахливу ситуацію жорстокої війни, розв’язаної цим злочинцем Путіним, я сподіваюся, що ви почуваєтесь добре. Знайте, що з нашого боку у вас є і завжди буде максимальна солідарність. Нехай музика торкнеться сердець кожного, навіть тих, хто розв'язав цю безглузду війну.
It is so wonderfully invigorating and encouraging to finally hear a performance of this work with both finesse and depth, particularly one in which the conductor observes the native character of the minuet, eschewing the trendy 'tempo di scherzo' favored by all too many of those benighted hot-shot conductors currently making the rounds.
Years ago I taped this from radio on reel to reel in a version from the much despised and sorely missed BBC regional orchestras. I thought it a marvelous work. Then I bought Dorati's much praised recording and found it hard driven, trivial and rather wearing. So what a joy to find this with its natural pacing of the opening movement, clean playing and appropriate sense of joy, elegance and well-being. The second movement is bathed in a lovely Italianate light which Mozart surely learned from for Cosi Fan Tutte
Los "prestigiosos" no siempre convencen y algunos desconocidos satisfacen mucho. Hace años compré una versión de la 9na sinfonía de Beethoven por una orquesta de un país del este europeo de los que son pequeños. Esa versión me encantó.
Sto ascoltando questo tripudio di suoni,dolcissimi,festosi.moderni e mi meraviglio delle poche visualizzazioni.Come mai? Eppure io credo che al momento della composizione il buon Joseph Haydn era felice di comunicare la sua felicità a sé e ai posteri.E io ne godo con gratitudine il messaggio,tenendomi la convinzione che forse come sempre capita,sono più apprezzati i comunicatori di angoscia e di tristezza,perché gli uomini per lo più non sanno cosa sia la felicità.
Carmelo Bonifacio Malandrino Hai pienamente ragione, C'e' gioia, difatti come Haydn stesso asseriva, scriveva per ispirazione divina. Ha comunque composto anche composizioni struggenti tra cui la sinfonia n.49 ispirata alla Passione. È sicuramente troppo sottovalutato rispetto a grandi nomi come Bach, Mozart, Beethoven. Bisognerebbe ascoltarlo più volte fino a comprendere LA CHIAVE di lettura, ed una volta compresa non lo molli più!
Haydn ofereceu ao século XVIII as formas Sinfonia e Quarteto de Cordas clássico inteiramente dominadas. Essa Sinfonia é um belo exemplo disso, temos a arte do quarteto de cordas em forma sinfônica, dando coerência à estrutura da sinfonia e os sopros (palhetas em especial) completando os apartes, trazendo novas cores instrumentais e clareando o contraste textural.
En largo desarrollo del primer movimiento, el violento pasaje canónico con tresillos en modo menor haciendo terceras descendentes es absolutamente prebeethoveniano. Brillante. El segundo movimiento es de una lograda melancolía.
Super divino isso que e música clássica antiga faz pena maioria não dar devido valor deus nomeou certas pessoas que nasceram com um dom divino para boa música clássica que encanta faz falta neste mundo de agora deus abençoe vocês sempre amem
Very artistic and happy mood !!!⚘
I have Discovered a Wonderful World of Haydn Symphonies .A Delight to Listen to,🎶🎼🎶🥰🎻🎺
Hasn't anyone noticed the error in the title? It's Symphony No. 67 being played, and it's an excellent performance indeed.
unoaked
It’s not an error in the title; it is a very misguided, muddled and un-international attempt to re-number the symphonies ‘chronologically’ instead of using the universally used Hoboken catalogue numbers.
The re-numbering is utterly futile as it is impossible to date correctly all 104 (+), symphonies, so even a revised ‘chronological’ list will include a number of works that can only be dated approximately and appear in the complete edition as ‘c.1761’, or ‘1767 or 1768’, and so forth.
That said, the more accurate chronological lists suggested by Larsen, HC Robbins Landon, Sonja Gerlach, et al, are essential for studying the development of the symphony, and for scholars; they do *not* however replace Hoboken as a universal reference point.
Any attempt at a chronological list, whilst being more accurate than the Hoboken list - which adopted the numbers unaltered from Mandyczewski who in 1907 created the currently well-known and commonly used numbers - can never be definitive as too many works cannot be dated definitively.
Additionally, on Haydn’s extant manuscripts, he usually just wrote the year - not the month; the obvious problem being that if he wrote more than one in a year, then those dated for example 1765 (Symphonies 28, 29, 30, and 31), or 1772 (Symphonies 45, 46, and 47), still cannot be correctly ordered.
In short: stick to Mandyczewski/Hoboken numbers; anything else, as in this case is simply confusing and serves no useful purpose; scholars and anyone else interested can find quasi-chronological best scholarly guess lists easily enough by simply searching *haydn symphonies chronology.*
@@elaineblackhurst1509What you say seems right to me. Seems that some scholars need something to get paid for, such as what you show.
Музыка Гайдна почти всегда узнаваема и весьма приятна для слуха и что удивительно не надоедает. Что-то есть в ней сказочное. Оркестр и дирижер идеально подходят к исполнению этого произведения.Слушаю его, и наслаждаюсь звучанием. Спасибо. Привет из Киева.
Сьогодні, 1 листопада 2022 року, я читаю цей ваш коментар, який ви написали два роки тому. Враховуючи жахливу ситуацію жорстокої війни, розв’язаної цим злочинцем Путіним, я сподіваюся, що ви почуваєтесь добре. Знайте, що з нашого боку у вас є і завжди буде максимальна солідарність. Нехай музика торкнеться сердець кожного, навіть тих, хто розв'язав цю безглузду війну.
It is so wonderfully invigorating and encouraging to finally hear a performance of this work with both finesse and depth, particularly one in which the conductor observes the native character of the minuet, eschewing the trendy 'tempo di scherzo' favored by all too many of those benighted hot-shot conductors currently making the rounds.
Years ago I taped this from radio on reel to reel in a version from the much despised and sorely missed BBC regional orchestras. I thought it a marvelous work. Then I bought Dorati's much praised recording and found it hard driven, trivial and rather wearing. So what a joy to find this with its natural pacing of the opening movement, clean playing and appropriate sense of joy, elegance and well-being. The second movement is bathed in a lovely Italianate light which Mozart surely learned from for Cosi Fan Tutte
Los "prestigiosos" no siempre convencen y algunos desconocidos satisfacen mucho. Hace años compré una versión de la 9na sinfonía de Beethoven por una orquesta de un país del este europeo de los que son pequeños. Esa versión me encantó.
Sto ascoltando questo tripudio di suoni,dolcissimi,festosi.moderni e mi meraviglio delle poche visualizzazioni.Come mai? Eppure io credo che al momento della composizione il buon Joseph Haydn era felice di comunicare la sua felicità a sé e ai posteri.E io ne godo con gratitudine il messaggio,tenendomi la convinzione che forse come sempre capita,sono più apprezzati i comunicatori di angoscia e di tristezza,perché gli uomini per lo più non sanno cosa sia la felicità.
Carmelo Bonifacio Malandrino Hai pienamente ragione, C'e' gioia, difatti come Haydn stesso asseriva, scriveva per ispirazione divina. Ha comunque composto anche composizioni struggenti tra cui la sinfonia n.49 ispirata alla Passione. È sicuramente troppo sottovalutato rispetto a grandi nomi come Bach, Mozart, Beethoven. Bisognerebbe ascoltarlo più volte fino a comprendere LA CHIAVE di lettura, ed una volta compresa non lo molli più!
A perfect little masterpiece, ain't it? Just exquisite!
RELAXING MASTERPIECE.THANKS
Simply superb.
Wonderful !!!!!
Great performance !!!!!
Una hermosa sinfonía y excelente interpretación. Me encanta Haydn
BRAVO. BRAVO REALLY played like the masters you are
The first movement is awesome
It is really awesome... despite the wrong pace of the performance. A PRESTO performed like an ALLEGRO.
Like a little ray of hope, so it is.
Haydn ofereceu ao século XVIII as formas Sinfonia e Quarteto de Cordas clássico inteiramente dominadas. Essa Sinfonia é um belo exemplo disso, temos a arte do quarteto de cordas em forma sinfônica, dando coerência à estrutura da sinfonia e os sopros (palhetas em especial) completando os apartes, trazendo novas cores instrumentais e clareando o contraste textural.
En largo desarrollo del primer movimiento, el violento pasaje canónico con tresillos en modo menor haciendo terceras descendentes es absolutamente prebeethoveniano. Brillante.
El segundo movimiento es de una lograda melancolía.
Haydn wrote so much! Most of the 104 symphonies are at least worth listening to. Many are truly great.
HERMOSOS SONIDOS QUE BELLAS MELODIAS................
Super divino isso que e música clássica antiga faz pena maioria não dar devido valor deus nomeou certas pessoas que nasceram com um dom divino para boa música clássica que encanta faz falta neste mundo de agora deus abençoe vocês sempre amem
Formidable performance !!!
-- Vibrante symphonie. --
Interpretacio'n delicada,diria "da camera",excelente!!.-
Sehr schone Musik danke Ihnen
Si l eleganza austriaca esiste grazia geniale
...das erste mal dass ich was gesehen hab das im ZDF lief das kein Müll war o0
Sinfonia splendida nel 4 tempo si sente il sapore del 700
perdón por la broma.- debido al largo de sus dedos el maestro Blomstedt, no necesita batuta
Haha😂
20.35 Finale
Ww