Seriously - tried the Alienware QD-OLED - it was dim and the PWM flicker gave me eye fatigue. Tried the LG W-OLED and it also was too dim. 27" 4K pixel density is tolerable but at 32", not so much. Oh and the disgusting matte finish is an absolute deal breaker.
For the people complaining about not talking about PPI: PPD is a better metric for how the display will actually look, say you don't know what you're talking about and just regurgitating numbers from other videos without actually saying so
LG deciding not to include a USB-C PD port is the biggest let down for me personally. One cable solution to power your MacBook/windows laptops for work is just too good to ignore especially at this price point.
The three MSI 32" QD-OLED variants have USB C with the top tier MPG version delivering 90 Watts and all cheaper than the LG. The new HP Omen 32" QD OLED has even 140W PD via USB C as well. I agree, LG not including it is a let down.
I find with even my iMac display, which 24" and has a 4.5k display that I always have downgrade the resolution in the Display setting so that text and the UI doesn't look tiny. I have it at 1920*1080. How's the size of the text and UI on a 32" 4K monitor?
For me it is less about the pixel density (although that is important) and more about the amount of space. 1920×1080 just feels so cramped after using 2560×1440 on the 5K iMac/Studio Display. And while I'd love a 120Hz refresh rate (might be possible with the next version and TB5?), the space is more important for me.
I bought one of these recently, and I've been using it on my personal/gaming setup. It is pretty good, but there is one annoyance. I have a Mac Mini connected via HDMI, and a gaming PC connected via DisplayPort. Every once in a while, I'll see the monitor wake up and say there's no HDMI signal, despite nothing being done on the Mac Mini. The monitor just wakes up on its own, complains about the lack of signal and then goes back to sleep. (I leave the Mini on/sleeping all the time, and rarely shut it down.) The lack of USB-C/Thunderbolt is kind of annoying too, but not a deal-breaker for me. I don't think I'll ever be comfortable maining this monitor on my work setup. The Monitors Unboxed burn-in test has me a bit worried about the longevity of OLEDs for productivity use. They used a (MSI) QD-OLED for that test, instead of LG's WOLED. 8-10 hours/day of mostly static windows (code), status bar, dock, etc would likely be problematic. Cool video. Thanks for posting!
I just recently switched to this monitor and an lg dual up from a dual height adjustable studio display. I'm pretty happy with it so far. LG has been reliable and my LG C1 serves me well. My UltraFine 5K was also great. I personally would still recommend the studio display to those that can afford it. My apartment has poor electrical wiring that caused my studio displays to make a horrible electrical whine leading me to abandon them.
All that matters is are you happy with it and does it do what you want better than other displays? If yes then it doesn't matter what others say or if the Studio Display is "technically" better on the spec sheet. You found a monitor you're happy with and meets as many of your needs as you can get in a single display with the fewest compromises. That's a win.
Well, from this title, only one point is actually better: yes, the OLED has deeper blacks and HDR for gaming or movies. But two points are totally false: it’s not better in resolution or scaling. The Studio Display’s proper 2x HiDPI scaling makes the 32" 4K OLED’s 125%-150% blurry scaling look like a bad Instagram filter.
I’m also interested in using this display in a similar setting. Would be awesome to have a follow up video with more details! :-) How you set up the display for colors, gamma, HDR, macOS pixel scaling mode, and if you en/disabled any of the OLED display saver features. I‘m also interested in the process of switching from one machine to another ( switching display video settings, are you using the monitor as a KVM Switch, are you still using a dock for the Mac or connect directly )
FINALLY somebody said it. I'm more in 4K 27" camp (32" is too big) but yeah, 4K is a much much more convenient resolution for macOS than Apple's idiotic 218ppi solutions; that number that is good for laptops, but not for a big display that sits farther away from your eyes.
I have always wanted to get an OLED monitor, but I think it might be too dim for me. Even a 400-nit LCD monitor feels dim, so OLED’s typical 250 nits is a bit concerning. 🤔 Perhaps in real usage, the screen isn’t always 100% white, so items appear brighter, but I haven’t seen any tests or numbers to confirm this. Even the mini-LED screen on a Mac in SDR mode can sometimes feel too dim when I have good sunlight. ☀ I use apps to force a full-screen 1000 nits (BTW, I find BrightInTosh slightly brighter than Vivid if you want the absolute brightest 💡). I also like to keep my display on all the time, so OLED’s burn-in is a real concern. I wouldn’t mind aggressive burn-in prevention measures, like more frequent pixel shifting, though refreshes are a bit more annoying. 😅 I think I’ll wait for monitors with dual-stack PH-QD-OLED or QDEL technology before switching to OLED-unless a brand releases a perfect mini-LED monitor in the meantime.
I have an oled and theres a difference between uniform brightness and peak brightness. generally its not the whole display needing to be bright at once so in practice its higher than 250 nits but If you need 1000 nits then defintely avoid an oled. I think i saw somewhere than it averages around 400-500 nits for regular stuff and that would lineup with how it feels.
Another "hot" monitor that people compare to Studio Display these days is new ASUS ProArt PA27JCV - factory-calibrated, 27", 5K, proper ppi, and twice less expensive than Apple etc. But 60Hz.
PPI wayyyyyy too low for anything text related (e.g. dev anything). i guess it's fine for gaming/video, but in that case, why not just buy a 42" 4k oled. Desktop oled is not here yet. I have a 16" 3k/120hz oled portable monitor beside my lg 5k (basically the same PPI) and that actually is usable for text and black, but that's as big as you can go now for "non-gamer"/professionally usable PPI. Unfortunately, it's going to have to wait for apple to make desktop oled mainstream for the options to improve (asus proart 5k is an okay start if you can tolerate matte panels/crappy blacks, maybe the upcoming benq option will be okay but im not holding my breath)
So the gist of it - your windows hardware does not support thunderbolt and the display is cheap, and stand looks line. How about what actually matters in a display? Calibration stability? Gamut? Uniformity? You said nothing about actual display quality and yet, busted out this clickbaity video title. Quite low.
It feels like there were two sponsors in this video.
275 nits and 137 ppi better then 600 nits and 218ppi with Studio? Another sponsored video
Seriously - tried the Alienware QD-OLED - it was dim and the PWM flicker gave me eye fatigue. Tried the LG W-OLED and it also was too dim. 27" 4K pixel density is tolerable but at 32", not so much. Oh and the disgusting matte finish is an absolute deal breaker.
yes, OLED 240 Ghz 1000$ better than awful 60hz ips in 2024 for 1600$
For the people complaining about not talking about PPI: PPD is a better metric for how the display will actually look, say you don't know what you're talking about and just regurgitating numbers from other videos without actually saying so
LG deciding not to include a USB-C PD port is the biggest let down for me personally. One cable solution to power your MacBook/windows laptops for work is just too good to ignore especially at this price point.
100%. It seems like right now the ASUS ROG Swift 32 (PG32UDCP) is the best choice so far.
The three MSI 32" QD-OLED variants have USB C with the top tier MPG version delivering 90 Watts and all cheaper than the LG. The new HP Omen 32" QD OLED has even 140W PD via USB C as well. I agree, LG not including it is a let down.
~220 ppi vs xxx... How can you compare it?
One day, the author will read an article about HiDPI 2x scaling and realize that scaling to 1.25-1.5 pixels is impossible...)
I find with even my iMac display, which 24" and has a 4.5k display that I always have downgrade the resolution in the Display setting so that text and the UI doesn't look tiny. I have it at 1920*1080. How's the size of the text and UI on a 32" 4K monitor?
For me it is less about the pixel density (although that is important) and more about the amount of space. 1920×1080 just feels so cramped after using 2560×1440 on the 5K iMac/Studio Display. And while I'd love a 120Hz refresh rate (might be possible with the next version and TB5?), the space is more important for me.
what webcam are you using on top of your monitor?
I bought one of these recently, and I've been using it on my personal/gaming setup. It is pretty good, but there is one annoyance. I have a Mac Mini connected via HDMI, and a gaming PC connected via DisplayPort. Every once in a while, I'll see the monitor wake up and say there's no HDMI signal, despite nothing being done on the Mac Mini. The monitor just wakes up on its own, complains about the lack of signal and then goes back to sleep. (I leave the Mini on/sleeping all the time, and rarely shut it down.)
The lack of USB-C/Thunderbolt is kind of annoying too, but not a deal-breaker for me.
I don't think I'll ever be comfortable maining this monitor on my work setup. The Monitors Unboxed burn-in test has me a bit worried about the longevity of OLEDs for productivity use. They used a (MSI) QD-OLED for that test, instead of LG's WOLED. 8-10 hours/day of mostly static windows (code), status bar, dock, etc would likely be problematic.
Cool video. Thanks for posting!
Either 1440p or 5k for Mac or it will look worse. Guys don't fall for advertisements.
Use display port 1.4 to thunderbolt. This will give you full refresh rate of 240 hz. Mac OS natively downregulates refresh rate via HDMI 2.1.
I just recently switched to this monitor and an lg dual up from a dual height adjustable studio display. I'm pretty happy with it so far. LG has been reliable and my LG C1 serves me well. My UltraFine 5K was also great. I personally would still recommend the studio display to those that can afford it. My apartment has poor electrical wiring that caused my studio displays to make a horrible electrical whine leading me to abandon them.
All that matters is are you happy with it and does it do what you want better than other displays? If yes then it doesn't matter what others say or if the Studio Display is "technically" better on the spec sheet. You found a monitor you're happy with and meets as many of your needs as you can get in a single display with the fewest compromises. That's a win.
Well, from this title, only one point is actually better: yes, the OLED has deeper blacks and HDR for gaming or movies. But two points are totally false: it’s not better in resolution or scaling. The Studio Display’s proper 2x HiDPI scaling makes the 32" 4K OLED’s 125%-150% blurry scaling look like a bad Instagram filter.
I’m also interested in using this display in a similar setting. Would be awesome to have a follow up video with more details! :-) How you set up the display for colors, gamma, HDR, macOS pixel scaling mode, and if you en/disabled any of the OLED display saver features. I‘m also interested in the process of switching from one machine to another ( switching display video settings, are you using the monitor as a KVM Switch, are you still using a dock for the Mac or connect directly )
FINALLY somebody said it. I'm more in 4K 27" camp (32" is too big) but yeah, 4K is a much much more convenient resolution for macOS than Apple's idiotic 218ppi solutions; that number that is good for laptops, but not for a big display that sits farther away from your eyes.
I have always wanted to get an OLED monitor, but I think it might be too dim for me. Even a 400-nit LCD monitor feels dim, so OLED’s typical 250 nits is a bit concerning. 🤔 Perhaps in real usage, the screen isn’t always 100% white, so items appear brighter, but I haven’t seen any tests or numbers to confirm this.
Even the mini-LED screen on a Mac in SDR mode can sometimes feel too dim when I have good sunlight. ☀ I use apps to force a full-screen 1000 nits (BTW, I find BrightInTosh slightly brighter than Vivid if you want the absolute brightest 💡).
I also like to keep my display on all the time, so OLED’s burn-in is a real concern. I wouldn’t mind aggressive burn-in prevention measures, like more frequent pixel shifting, though refreshes are a bit more annoying. 😅 I think I’ll wait for monitors with dual-stack PH-QD-OLED or QDEL technology before switching to OLED-unless a brand releases a perfect mini-LED monitor in the meantime.
I have an oled and theres a difference between uniform brightness and peak brightness. generally its not the whole display needing to be bright at once so in practice its higher than 250 nits but If you need 1000 nits then defintely avoid an oled. I think i saw somewhere than it averages around 400-500 nits for regular stuff and that would lineup with how it feels.
The brightness is the problem for me. Apple always makes brighter screens.
Another "hot" monitor that people compare to Studio Display these days is new ASUS ProArt PA27JCV - factory-calibrated, 27", 5K, proper ppi, and twice less expensive than Apple etc. But 60Hz.
But no speakers, right?
PPI wayyyyyy too low for anything text related (e.g. dev anything). i guess it's fine for gaming/video, but in that case, why not just buy a 42" 4k oled. Desktop oled is not here yet. I have a 16" 3k/120hz oled portable monitor beside my lg 5k (basically the same PPI) and that actually is usable for text and black, but that's as big as you can go now for "non-gamer"/professionally usable PPI. Unfortunately, it's going to have to wait for apple to make desktop oled mainstream for the options to improve (asus proart 5k is an okay start if you can tolerate matte panels/crappy blacks, maybe the upcoming benq option will be okay but im not holding my breath)
So the gist of it - your windows hardware does not support thunderbolt and the display is cheap, and stand looks line.
How about what actually matters in a display? Calibration stability? Gamut? Uniformity? You said nothing about actual display quality and yet, busted out this clickbaity video title. Quite low.
Dim display, no speakers, no USB-C and no webcam... There is your 600 buck difference
Omg, this monitor is garbage!
Either 1440p or 5k for Mac or it will look worse. Guys don't fall for advertisements.