Omg man this is so true.. after my first squat session ever. I was wrecked. I took 2-3 days and was still sore, I didn't want to wait a whole week for what I thought I'd need for "recovery" but after the 2nd session all that soreness went away instantly. From that point on I felt stronger and got stronger.
@@GoalGuys As for your shoulder pain, it’s hard to tell from a quick video, but check in with your trainer for a form check. The wider your elbows the more weight put on your shoulders. If you tuck them, you will move more weight and have less weight in your shoulders.
2 months is a pretty short time frame for strength increases. Loosing fat, sure 2 months. But building strength to a reasonable change would take 6 months to a year.... at least. XD. Fun video though.
To build strength I follow this simple principle: T - Train tirelessly R - Ruthlessly go for PRs E - Energise your body with protein N - Never stop grinding
Great video as always! Just a little note on your form. Take a look at your squat, your knees were bent inwards when they need to go outwards, ideally the knees should be in line with the feet. Also, you need to go deeper on squat, your thighs should be at least parallel to the floor. Don't hurt yourself and please stay safe!
Depth is more important if you are a competitive lifter. Not going fully to depth is actually fine for general training. For a novice lifter I'd rather them do less weight pause sets or only go slightly higher than competition depth when lifting heavy. As you pointed out his knee position was bad and they are going for near max lifts. Going to max, without a competent spotter (as pointed out in the video) and lack of experience on how to bail out of a bad squat is a recipe for injury. When he did fail the squat he let the bar pin him all the way to the ground instead of dumping it. Keeping that bar in a high rack position was real risky.
Great work Cam, this was a very ambitious challenge! Keep in mind Brendan has a 3 year head start on you with the physical goals he’s been setting for himself on this channel. You’ve done well to catch up to him the way you have 💪👍
I love this video, and in particular that you invested the time to make a 60 day video instead of just a couple of weeks. The progress is awesome, and I love seeing more people get into lifting. Everyone's picking on the squat, but wanted to point out something on the deadlift. The bar is way away from your shins! You should set up closer to the bar, so that it's basically touching or almost touching your shins when you start. It should help hugely and reduce strain on the back.
Great job!! I was rooting for you, and I'm proud of your progress. There's something to be said about getting in your own head. Being able to control what we think can be powerful. I'm looking forward to the next video. Have a Happy New Year!!
Enjoyed this.. Hopefully you stick with it. The key to this stuff is just getting started and forcing yourself to show up, after that it becomes more of a habit and you'll show up at the gym without even planning to go there. ~7 years ago I forced myself to "just go" and I haven't looked back since, it became a life changing habit. Now, I will say that DOMS is normal after just starting a new workout, but I'd argue that if it continues to occur past the first week or two of the new regime, you should reduce the workload, because overtraining can hurt your progress. It's okay to be a little sore, but it's not good to be debilitatingly sore to the point where it hurts to do general everyday movements, that usually indicates overtraining.
They're very different exercises. Muscle ups use more of the back and have a high degree of technical movement you have to master to perform them properly. Being good at one doesn't mean you'll be good at the other.
always great entertainment with your videos but seriously, if Brendan focused on just one thing I think he would be a beast! Also, in your store, you should put out the workout plans you used with the links to the videos. I think it would be amazing!
I think that would cause an imbalance and you'd need to do the others anyway to support, but I hear you! These guys are beasts when it comes to these challenges.
This really underscores what everyone says about the dangers of comparisons. Cam made incredible progress and got way stronger but on comparison found himself disappointed despite the progress. Good on you for getting through it.
Yeah one hundred per cent it would have been wiser to focus on cam 60 days ago rather than his brother who had been working out for years. He did great.
I kind of love and hate this video because it was entertaining but IMO frames fitness as this all or nothing white knuckle thing you do for results whereas I think it’s more healthy and sustainable to think of it as a lifestyle thing you do for fun and character building.
Loved the video and you done a great a job. That being said I think you would both really benefit (specifically on the squat) from working with a pt or coach in person. Neither of you, have quite got the form down and a few small adjustments would make a world of difference. Keep up the good work.
I would love to see both of you trained by an actual power lifter. So many things could be tweaked to improve your lifts. Just your choices in shoes could improve how things moved. Ugh I haven't lifted much since my knee arthritis has flared up and still as a 48 year old woman I can outlift both of you guys... except for the pull ups...I suck at those. But seriously if you had the proper coaching and more than 60 days to train, you would surpass me easily. Nice to see regular guys give these lifts a chance without resorting to the typical dumb gym bro tropes. Most of the powerlifters I know are seriously smart about their workouts, and typically smart people in general. It's a fun sport.
Very cool , and motivating! I’d love to see a challenge where one of you does this type of training, the other one something different (eg, kettlebells only) and then you compare %gains in each program after 60 days
I enjoy your content. Both of your deadlifts can be drastically improved with better form. Your legs are too far apart, check out videos of power lifters and how close their legs are.
I jumped from 250 (one rep max) to 315 (4 rep max) on bench in 60 days following a modified version of Jim Stoppani's 'Shortcut to Size' plan. It was a good feeling. No one I knew was in the gym at the time, so no one cared lol but I was stoked.
Good job on making improvements but there’s so many things you could have done better and much more safely if you had a coach in person. Online coaching has more drawbacks than what it can actually offer so if your goal is to really maximize progress while minimizing risk of injury I would consider in person training.
Nobody needs a foam roller... if you're excessively sore it only means that you've gone too hard. Building muscle is about adaption, not tearing down your muscles.
Cool, now simply follow a program with some kind of 4-5 day a week split and stick with it for 6 months to a year, you'll achieve an actual body transformation in that time frame.
Lift Hack: if you feel like you may lose a deadlift challenge against somebody, just make sure they go first, and then during your turn just step up and assume the sumo position and prepare to cheat your way to a W....ermm I mean Prepare to teach your friend a different, yet still technically legitimate way to deadlift your way to a new PR. Seriously though I want to point out that you didn't really lose to your buddy. In my eyes you tied him after attempting the bench press again. Did the rules ever say that you could thave a 2nd attempt once you've built a bit of confidence doing a deadlift PR? If he has a prob with it being a tie then maybe he should've specified rules in fine print before allowing the 2nd go...I'm just saying 🤷 I'm sure he won't mind calling it a tie though. You earned it and worked hard so good job bro
when following a good strength program you should be able to put 60 pounds on your bench in those 60 days, 120 for squats, and 120 for deadlift. Progress will slow as you squeeze out your newbie gains of course. Starting strength is the king of novice strength programs rn. Try this out
Awesome video as always. Some things I've noticed though: When weight training you definitely do not burn more than 200 kcal in an hour, even for a big guy. Any tracking by gym equipment (or watches, but those tend to be a bit better) should be cut in half. Moderate steady state cardio like going for walks burn the most because you can go for longer. Please for the love of god don't take more than 5g og creatine per day. You will never ever need 20g unless you want to make your bathroom visits more "explosive". Remember to always look at form. The smallest details matter (oh and remember to pause at the bottom of the bench like a solid 1-2 seconds. Happy to see that you've also gotten into fitness. Stay strong!💪
It’s not uncommon to start with 10-20 grams to start the creative loading and then 5 a day from then on. He only had him do a loading phase. After a month of daily doses you’d probably be at the same point, but there is a point to it.
@@michaellove456 I think the whole loading phase for creatine is one of the most discussed things there are... some people will kill you if you tell them you think it's unneccessary, some others will have the same opinion
@michaellove456 yeah loading gets you to saturation faster but not necessary. I did loading when I initially started taking it and holy shit not worth it. If I ever take a break from creatine I'll just do a few days of 10g then just chill at 5, I don't even think our bodies can really absorb the majority in the loading phase I mean isn't that what our body is telling us with all the liquid shit if you load?!
Nice gains for 60 days and of course Brendan is going to have the strength training advantage since hes been doing it for years. The deadlift seemed like he gave up to give his brother the win and to give the video a bit of a better ending. I doubt that Brendan cant lift that.
This man was benching near his body weight BEFORE training. Bruhhh you werent scrawny for most people it takes a little while to be able to do that. You werent scrawny just unaesthetic in the sense you didnt look like a greek god but had good ass strength
Yeah! I looked at a chart of standard strength based on age, height and weight, and all my lifts were beginner, except for my bench press which was a category up…so, kind of interesting!
The only thing that fixes the soreness from the first leg day is the second leg day.
I love leg day and I always skip abs it’s just so painful
This advice should be in the bible
@@benironside1264 😂🤣😂🤣
@@officialasim6772 I never train abs
Omg man this is so true.. after my first squat session ever. I was wrecked. I took 2-3 days and was still sore, I didn't want to wait a whole week for what I thought I'd need for "recovery" but after the 2nd session all that soreness went away instantly. From that point on I felt stronger and got stronger.
You guys are inspiring though that squat form made me die a little inside 😆
Yeah…watching it back hurt me too.
@@GoalGuys As for your shoulder pain, it’s hard to tell from a quick video, but check in with your trainer for a form check. The wider your elbows the more weight put on your shoulders. If you tuck them, you will move more weight and have less weight in your shoulders.
@@GoalGuys you need to work your rotator cuff and workout the romboids
"we couldnt go much higher" - truth
2 months is a pretty short time frame for strength increases.
Loosing fat, sure 2 months. But building strength to a reasonable change would take 6 months to a year.... at least. XD.
Fun video though.
I have a feeling Brendan let him win that last one haha
same
felt staged smh
To build strength I follow this simple principle:
T - Train tirelessly
R - Ruthlessly go for PRs
E - Energise your body with protein
N - Never stop grinding
Damn thats cringe
@@SkipperSkipS sorry I was heavily addicted to heroin when I made that post. I am now sober
Great video as always! Just a little note on your form. Take a look at your squat, your knees were bent inwards when they need to go outwards, ideally the knees should be in line with the feet. Also, you need to go deeper on squat, your thighs should be at least parallel to the floor. Don't hurt yourself and please stay safe!
Depth is more important if you are a competitive lifter. Not going fully to depth is actually fine for general training. For a novice lifter I'd rather them do less weight pause sets or only go slightly higher than competition depth when lifting heavy. As you pointed out his knee position was bad and they are going for near max lifts. Going to max, without a competent spotter (as pointed out in the video) and lack of experience on how to bail out of a bad squat is a recipe for injury. When he did fail the squat he let the bar pin him all the way to the ground instead of dumping it. Keeping that bar in a high rack position was real risky.
Great work Cam, this was a very ambitious challenge! Keep in mind Brendan has a 3 year head start on you with the physical goals he’s been setting for himself on this channel. You’ve done well to catch up to him the way you have 💪👍
These brothers are getting JACKED more and more every year
Might have to change their name to the Swole Guys
lmao
lol
props to the production value you (goal) guys are getting lately. I feel like you've all come along. Cheers to another year of goals and challenges!
The amount of work that you guys put into every single video is crazy. Huge props.
Thank you!
I love this video, and in particular that you invested the time to make a 60 day video instead of just a couple of weeks. The progress is awesome, and I love seeing more people get into lifting.
Everyone's picking on the squat, but wanted to point out something on the deadlift. The bar is way away from your shins! You should set up closer to the bar, so that it's basically touching or almost touching your shins when you start. It should help hugely and reduce strain on the back.
Great job!! I was rooting for you, and I'm proud of your progress. There's something to be said about getting in your own head. Being able to control what we think can be powerful. I'm looking forward to the next video. Have a Happy New Year!!
Yeah loved that he came back and believed in himself and did so well.
Enjoyed this.. Hopefully you stick with it. The key to this stuff is just getting started and forcing yourself to show up, after that it becomes more of a habit and you'll show up at the gym without even planning to go there. ~7 years ago I forced myself to "just go" and I haven't looked back since, it became a life changing habit.
Now, I will say that DOMS is normal after just starting a new workout, but I'd argue that if it continues to occur past the first week or two of the new regime, you should reduce the workload, because overtraining can hurt your progress. It's okay to be a little sore, but it's not good to be debilitatingly sore to the point where it hurts to do general everyday movements, that usually indicates overtraining.
Nice work grinding out that bench PR! Keep at it, bros
Thanks Zac!
I just got back into fitness and did a leg day last week and I can feel your pain at 5:18. I laughed so hard cause I thought I was the only one
Weird how Brandon can do muscle ups but can’t Deadlift 225
he 100 percent could have gotten it
And with all his months of weightlifting and sprinting
With that workout, muscle imbalances are a sure thing.
They're very different exercises. Muscle ups use more of the back and have a high degree of technical movement you have to master to perform them properly. Being good at one doesn't mean you'll be good at the other.
I think he let Cam win that one. Any healthy male their age can deadlift 225 without training
always great entertainment with your videos but seriously, if Brendan focused on just one thing I think he would be a beast! Also, in your store, you should put out the workout plans you used with the links to the videos. I think it would be amazing!
I think that would cause an imbalance and you'd need to do the others anyway to support, but I hear you! These guys are beasts when it comes to these challenges.
I want to say the…cinematography has markedly improved in your videos. Specifically the jump rope video and this one. Great work guys!
For me, DOMS was improved with foam rolling and stretching at the end of the workout.
This was great, dude. This was really great! You did awesome. I love seeing that kind of progress. You’ll be deadlifting 3 plates before you know it.
Awesome video! Been waiting for Cam to hit the gym since the channel started. Nice job, wohooo!!
Solid progress
I love these videos whenever they come out. Keep making vids, thank you guys so much.
Bro you have GOT to get your elbows IN when doing bench presses. It'll feel weird but its proper form and will prevent injuries!!
Great job Cam!
Fantastic video - love that I’ve found this channel !
This really underscores what everyone says about the dangers of comparisons.
Cam made incredible progress and got way stronger but on comparison found himself disappointed despite the progress.
Good on you for getting through it.
Yeah one hundred per cent it would have been wiser to focus on cam 60 days ago rather than his brother who had been working out for years. He did great.
I kind of love and hate this video because it was entertaining but IMO frames fitness as this all or nothing white knuckle thing you do for results whereas I think it’s more healthy and sustainable to think of it as a lifestyle thing you do for fun and character building.
That's amazing jumps in numbers in just 60 days!
These videos are fun. Great job Cam with the improvement. I hope you keep up the lifting.
squat depth left the chat
13:43 this is the most epic bench press
Most inspiring brother duo
As usual very entertaining content, really well edited. Congrats for the huge improvement in the gym!
Was so happy for Cam when he completed that deadlift
Man, this is great content. You guys deservce more subs.
Always so inspired by both of you and the content this channel provides. Thank you for always creating such awesome videos.
Another fuckin banger. Lovin the improvements. Actually insane
Thanks mate!!
excellent progress in just 60 days! great job!
Wow! You got so much stronger in just 2 months! That's fantastic!
Loved the video and you done a great a job. That being said I think you would both really benefit (specifically on the squat) from working with a pt or coach in person. Neither of you, have quite got the form down and a few small adjustments would make a world of difference. Keep up the good work.
Congrats on improving yourself bro
I would love to see both of you trained by an actual power lifter. So many things could be tweaked to improve your lifts. Just your choices in shoes could improve how things moved. Ugh I haven't lifted much since my knee arthritis has flared up and still as a 48 year old woman I can outlift both of you guys... except for the pull ups...I suck at those. But seriously if you had the proper coaching and more than 60 days to train, you would surpass me easily. Nice to see regular guys give these lifts a chance without resorting to the typical dumb gym bro tropes. Most of the powerlifters I know are seriously smart about their workouts, and typically smart people in general. It's a fun sport.
I used to absolutely hate leg day. Now it’s something I look forward to.
Same! At the start of the challenge, I dreaded squat days, but after a while I really grew to enjoy them.
Comparison is the thieve of joy - you have improved alot, you're already a winner!
Thanks for the encouragement.
Way to go, man!
Thank you!
The most impressive thing is the timeframe, 2 months is impressive to get such an improvement
Epic video alway enjoying the content from you brothers! Greetings from Bulgaria.
Amazing teachings 🙏
Very cool , and motivating! I’d love to see a challenge where one of you does this type of training, the other one something different (eg, kettlebells only) and then you compare %gains in each program after 60 days
Keep going man
Keep going. Your bro just has a few years of progress on you.
I enjoy your content. Both of your deadlifts can be drastically improved with better form. Your legs are too far apart, check out videos of power lifters and how close their legs are.
I jumped from 250 (one rep max) to 315 (4 rep max) on bench in 60 days following a modified version of Jim Stoppani's 'Shortcut to Size' plan. It was a good feeling. No one I knew was in the gym at the time, so no one cared lol but I was stoked.
Editing on this one is awesome
Being shredded does not mean being strong , it actually impedes strength. People at higher body fat can lift heavier.
very true. He seems to conflate the two
This Max guy seems like a certified broscientist to me...
Max is selling some bro science haha
Good job man
Good work, keep it up!
Good job on making improvements but there’s so many things you could have done better and much more safely if you had a coach in person. Online coaching has more drawbacks than what it can actually offer so if your goal is to really maximize progress while minimizing risk of injury I would consider in person training.
Nobody needs a foam roller... if you're excessively sore it only means that you've gone too hard.
Building muscle is about adaption, not tearing down your muscles.
great vid!!
Not a single squat done
Everything was great ...... exept the squat depth.
well done!
At 3:09 I really thought he was gonna say *_"This is my trainer Leo Messi"_*
Cool, now simply follow a program with some kind of 4-5 day a week split and stick with it for 6 months to a year, you'll achieve an actual body transformation in that time frame.
Max is also my trainer! He’s the best!
The depth on those squats...
You don t decrease the goal instead Increase the effort! 🙌
Cringe
Is it just me that never knew you were brothers haha
noti squad :D
Lift Hack: if you feel like you may lose a deadlift challenge against somebody, just make sure they go first, and then during your turn just step up and assume the sumo position and prepare to cheat your way to a W....ermm I mean Prepare to teach your friend a different, yet still technically legitimate way to deadlift your way to a new PR.
Seriously though I want to point out that you didn't really lose to your buddy. In my eyes you tied him after attempting the bench press again. Did the rules ever say that you could thave a 2nd attempt once you've built a bit of confidence doing a deadlift PR? If he has a prob with it being a tie then maybe he should've specified rules in fine print before allowing the 2nd go...I'm just saying 🤷
I'm sure he won't mind calling it a tie though. You earned it and worked hard so good job bro
I feel like Brendon didn't really push himself for deadlift because he felt bad for you.
when following a good strength program you should be able to put 60 pounds on your bench in those 60 days, 120 for squats, and 120 for deadlift. Progress will slow as you squeeze out your newbie gains of course. Starting strength is the king of novice strength programs rn. Try this out
Activated the good ol CNS with the final deadlift.
That is actually very decent progress for the bench press
Thank you!
@@GoalGuys keep training properly, and you will get past 225 lbs in no time
Thank you
'did you edit my script' hahaha
I already could tell he would win deadlift I can tell by how he train his deadlift and lower back is his strong points
10 min squad
LET'S GOOOO
Good brother
Why aren’t you using opposing hand grips for the deadlift?
Awesome video as always. Some things I've noticed though:
When weight training you definitely do not burn more than 200 kcal in an hour, even for a big guy. Any tracking by gym equipment (or watches, but those tend to be a bit better) should be cut in half. Moderate steady state cardio like going for walks burn the most because you can go for longer.
Please for the love of god don't take more than 5g og creatine per day. You will never ever need 20g unless you want to make your bathroom visits more "explosive".
Remember to always look at form. The smallest details matter (oh and remember to pause at the bottom of the bench like a solid 1-2 seconds.
Happy to see that you've also gotten into fitness. Stay strong!💪
It’s not uncommon to start with 10-20 grams to start the creative loading and then 5 a day from then on. He only had him do a loading phase. After a month of daily doses you’d probably be at the same point, but there is a point to it.
@@michaellove456 I think the whole loading phase for creatine is one of the most discussed things there are... some people will kill you if you tell them you think it's unneccessary, some others will have the same opinion
@michaellove456 yeah loading gets you to saturation faster but not necessary. I did loading when I initially started taking it and holy shit not worth it. If I ever take a break from creatine I'll just do a few days of 10g then just chill at 5, I don't even think our bodies can really absorb the majority in the loading phase I mean isn't that what our body is telling us with all the liquid shit if you load?!
That is huge progress you made there 👀
Nice gains for 60 days and of course Brendan is going to have the strength training advantage since hes been doing it for years. The deadlift seemed like he gave up to give his brother the win and to give the video a bit of a better ending. I doubt that Brendan cant lift that.
So when did the squats start?
Big bro let lil bro get a dub, that's sweet.
You should test your vertical jump again. Im sure its gonna be even better now that your body is even stronger
I'd like to see a video on your diet over those 60 days
So strange how similar each lift is. My DL is like double my bench.
This man was benching near his body weight BEFORE training. Bruhhh you werent scrawny for most people it takes a little while to be able to do that. You werent scrawny just unaesthetic in the sense you didnt look like a greek god but had good ass strength
At least upper body. Lower lifts were lacking at the start.
Yeah! I looked at a chart of standard strength based on age, height and weight, and all my lifts were beginner, except for my bench press which was a category up…so, kind of interesting!
After you leave the gym on Leg Day put a handicap placard on your rear view mirror.
Were your numbers one rep maxes, or over how many reps/sets?
One rep maxes!
@@GoalGuys nice💪🏽
LETS GOOOOOOOOO
Now imagine the progress from training for 365 days
HUGE BACK GAINS
Dude, who cares what your brother is doing. Compare yourself with yourself! Track your own progress, you're doing great! 🎉
0:54,
2:05,
4:26+,