Firstly i cursed myself , i impregnated my minor mother with myself. i prayed to myself i worshipped myself, as a result i got mob lynched by creation i created. i sacrificed myself to myself to save you from myself because of a rule i made myself. Then i resurrected myself to myself and made to sit myself at the right hand of myself
Did you know? The most famous biographies of Mohammed, like those by Ibn Hisham (d. 833 AD) and Al-Waqidi (d. 835 AD), were written 200 years after his death. Why does this matter? 1. Geographical Distance: Ibn Hisham, a key source on Mohammed, lived in Egypt, far from Mecca and Medina. Al-Waqidi, though originally from Medina, wrote in Baghdad-far from where Mohammed lived. 2. Chronological Gap: These biographies were written well over a century after Mohammed’s death, relying on oral traditions passed down through generations. The gap between Mohammed’s death in 632 AD and these works (833-835 AD) raises questions about how much the stories could have changed. 3. No Eyewitnesses: Unlike the New Testament accounts of Jesus, which were written by eyewitnesses or close associates within decades, these Islamic biographies were written centuries later with no direct witnesses. 4. Historical Reliability: Given the time, distance, and lack of direct sources, how much of what we know about Mohammed’s life is based on fact versus legend? If these biographers were so far removed from Mohammed’s time and place, can their accounts be considered accurate? Something to think about when discussing the origins of Islam.
Bro they don't even bother to understand the counter arguments. Most of these goons did not even watch the full debate and were keen about commenting in the comment section. It seems that his Audience already made up their mind about the debate.
@@rojahj6524They cut the video shorter to proof their point and deliberately misses the full statement. That's just how they works with idiotic mindset.
Bro, that Quran talking argument to justify the three god heads of the trinity talking to each other … Alhamdulillah for Islam and the blessings of having intellect
Exactly, they have to make a complicated argument. But the fact is that Trinity defeats itself, and all it takes is common sense to see that the Bible contradicts itself with a few simple verses. The Christians should find it concerning that they avoided explaining the Trinity and the Bible contradictions. Deep down they know but don't want to face the truth. At this point, they're treating it as some kind of Nationalism and it's probably tied to a secular reason after all.
I mean HOW HOW is that an issue!?!? Or the fact that god has attributes and now suddenly thats what makes it polytheism? Its so frustrating with them. Also notice how Sam shamoun started his opening with how he is going to destroy tawhid. But tawhid means oneness of god…. So in his opening statement he is litterly making a case about god being one. But at the same time believes that christians are monotheists?
I think the argument the Christian side is making is that Surah Al Ikhlas doesn’t fully account for how the Quran speaks about God and to say it’s as simple as one surah is a total cope.
Daniel and Ijaz as always went into this debate proving Islam while disproving Christianity, while sam and Jay went into the debate just trying to disprove Islam while failing to defend Christianity
@@Exor_. 1. In Christianity, Rape is permissible.(Deu.22/26-29) 2. Adultery is permissible. (2 Samuel 11/2-5) 3. Keeping sex-slaves is permissible.(1 Kings 11/3) 4. Slavery is permissible (1 Peter 2/18-19, Ephesians 6/5,1 Timothy 6/1-2, Exodus 21/21, Leviticus 25/44-48). 5. Sexual intercourse between father and daughter is permissible. (Genesis 19/30-36) 6. Infant sex is permissible, child marriage permissible . (Gen 22-26) 7. Marrying a divorced woman is equal to adultery (Matthew 5/32). 8. Beheading is permissible. (Numbers 31/9-18) 9. Selling one's own daughter as a slave is permissible. (Exodus 21/7-8) 10. Wife beating is permissible.(Deuteronomy 25/11-12) 11. Theft-robbery-snatching is permissible. (Deut 20/14) 12. Rape of step mother is permissible. (Genesis 35:22, 2 Samuel 16/22) 13. Sex with brother-in-law is permissible.(Genesis 36/6-19) 14. As much as one like,Polygamy is permissible. (1 Kings 11/3). 15. Beating slaves is permissible. (Exodus 21/21, Luke 12/46-48). 16. Temporary / mut'ah marriage is permissible. (Deut 24/1-2) 17. Cursing innocent people is permissible. (Matthew 23/38) 18. Sex with daughter-in-law is permissible.(Gen 36) 19. Marrying step sisters is permissible. (Genesis 20/12). 20. Rape of step-sisters is permissible. (2 Samuel 13/ 11-14) 21. Carrying out genocide is permissible.(Deuteronomy 20/13-18, Hosea 13/16, Hebrews 11/32-34) 22. Creation of high and low inequality is permissible. (Matthew 15/23-27) 23. Walking naked is permissible.(Isaiah 20/2-6). 24. Calling infidels as dogs, donkeys, pigs etc is permissible. (Matthew 15/26, 7/8; Genesis 17/12) 25. Calling the simple-hearted infidels by the name of food and drink and kill them by trickery is permissible. (1 Kings 17/40, 2 Kings 10/ 17-28) 26. Punishing the son for the fault of the father is permissible. (Isaiah 14/21, Exodus 20/5) 27. Going to the area of foreigners and demolishing their temples, idols and altars is permissible.(Exodus 34/13) 28. Slaughtering unarmed prisoners, burning them to death is permissible. (2 Samuel 12/29-31) 29. Killing unjust plants and animals is permissible.(Matthew 21/19, Mark 11/13-14, 5/10-13, 1 Samuel 15/1-3). 30. Depriving a girl from the inheritance of property is permissible. (Numbers 28/7). 31.Taking wine is permissible. (John 2/1-10). 32. Killing anyone for denying Jesus is permissible. (Luke 19/28). 33. Threatening the infidels by saying that they would be uprooted like weeds,is permissible. (Matthew 15/13-14). 34. Depriving a girl child from the right of education / sending her to school is permissible. (1 Corinthians 14/35) 35. Using bad language is permissible. (Matthew 18/23, 23/13-33)
And never will the Jews and the Christians approve of you until you follow their religion. Say, "Indeed, the guidance of Allāh is the [only] guidance." If you were to follow their desires after what has come to you of knowledge, you would have against Allāh no protector or helper. Quran 2:120
daniel pedotjou admitted that he believes there's nothing wrong in boning a four year old. So he follows flaming homosexual mupedohammad very well, *sunan abi dawud 2121*
@@AntiAtheismIsUnstoppable Sahih al-Bukhari 106 ‘The Prophet (ﷺ) said, "Do not tell a lie against me for whoever tells a lie against me (intentionally) then he will surely enter the Hell-fire."
@@Hoodinator17 Sahih al-Bukhari 106 “The Prophet (ﷺ) said, "Do not tell a lie against me for whoever tells a lie against me (intentionally) then he will surely enter the Hell-fire."
@@presmokan Are you saying that aisha, the mother of the believers from she was six, boned by mupedohammad when she was nine, is a liar? Are you saying that albukhari is a liar *sahih albukhari 5134* ?
@@smack09 just even his opening statement, it's littered with several straw man beliefs like the 115 gods, god having physical hands etc. none of which any muslim believes as the whole quran contradicts these notions. I've barely started watching and it's crystal clear what type of person he is, creating his own arguments and attacking them. He's either a complete idiot or disingenuous
@@dariusdreams8480 I think he/she just asks a question, no need to reply with harsh words. If he/she has not yet watched the video, then we should tell them to watch the video with careful words. May God increase our patience and guide us to the straight path. Salam from Malaysia.
@@fahmiizz5430 You need to be polite only to those people who are academically sincere about learning Islam. These people in the comments came with sole purpose to trash Islam without even watching a video. You don't need to sympathize with them.
Herkules and his worldly Mum and of course his Dad Zeus ! Roman Imperium people where Pagans that believed in Mithras Kult ! Sun worshiping ! That the reason why spreads to the world so fast ( with the sharpness of the sword 🗡️ ) much faster ! Nothing with Jesus Christ real teachings !!!
The differences is that trinity is a crucial part of christianity theology for nature of the divine one true god, the father the son and the holy spirit belong to one divine essence. Islam in another doesnt have any correct explaination for the uncreated thing beside allah, secondly the concept of god in islam is limited and definitely not all mighty and all powerful and omnipresent. In islam allah is in heaven alone he cannot reach out toward humanity and cannot appear physical or omnipresent, at the end of the day allah have to bend down to the lowest heaven, and allah need angels to write down your deeds for allah dont know your heart and allah also allowed satan to stay in your nostril that why muslim need to clean it
Sam basically took David woods Points from his debate with Mohammed Hijab in which he got destroyed Subhan Allah. They run from the Trinity and only speak about islam
@@Charmed4eva1 Do you think, one reason why so many muslims leave islame and convert to Christianity, is because al Lah is not omni present and he suffers from sever hearing loss *Sahih Muslim 758b* ?
@@ahmedfathi981 Which of the many al Lahs enter into his own creation every third part of the night *sahih albukhafri 1145* ? Because it cannot be al Lah on the throne, since he cannot enter into his own creation and this Lah is limited to his chair. So which al Lah is it?
I think the argument the Christian side is making is that Surah Al Ikhlas doesn’t fully account for how the Quran speaks about God and to say it’s as simple as one surah is a total cope.
@@EricAlHarb so your contention is God should be as complex as possible when describing Himself so His limited creation with limited knowledge would understand Him? Lol
@@tachikoma7757 is your contention that God can be comprehended? Then why does Allah taala say in surah ash shura يَذۡرَؤُكُمۡ فِيهِۚ لَيۡسَ كَمِثۡلِهِۦ
@@tachikoma7757 which scholar or tafseer you want me to quote for the meaning ? Simple answer is, anything you think. He is not that. So you can never understand God, because whatever you understand, He is not that. I know Islam well as a murtad .
So, in the night of the jinn, cited in musnad of imam Ahmad, mupedohammads friend explains how mupedohammad was ridden like a bicycle by tall dark men allll niiight loong and in the morning he felt so much pain from what they rode on. But even more interesting for abdooools is, that while they rode him, he was reciting queer'an to them.
@@MilitantAntiAtheism MThe Prophet (ﷺ) said, "Do not tell a lie against me, for whoever tells a lie against me (intentionally), then he will surely enter the Hell-fire."
@@presmokan Are you saying that your scholars are liars? *sunan abi dawud 5224* flaming homosexual mupedohammad gets naked and lets another naked man kiss him belly down till cl!max
@@MilitantAntiAtheism When someone can read the rage in your comment, you are like a child that cant get his lollipop... go cry in the corner you sore loser.
Not surprising Sam believes every chapter of the Quran is a God, therefor 114 Gods, thats what polytheists like christian do, they see multiple Gods everywhere. No wonder he feels at home in christianity. lol.
@@MilitantAntiAtheismBe respectful first the words in Quran is the knowledge of God (attribute) not a person just an attribute unlike a polytheistic trinity
I'm a muslim, and I'm embarrassed of Sam's bizarre and weak arguments against Islam, i thought he would have at least a valid logical argument against islam. Lol. Alhamdulillah for islam.
No, al Lah is not omni present. If al Lah was omni present he would not need to decent from one point in space-time to another point in space-timre, because he would already be there *Sahih Muslim 758b*
@@MilitantAntiAtheism stop by Muslim Lantern youtube channel livestreams and have friendly fruitful discussions insya Allah. Allah's works/attributes aren't like that of ours. We know the definition of the words but we don't know the how when it comes to Allah.
@@MilitantAntiAtheism Lol. He's not at a point of space and time in the first place and the word descent in arabic in that contex have different meaning. If you search more, you'll learn he control time with his hand and he created both space and time. He can be at many places at the same time like he can talk to everyone at that same time at judgment day and give them judgment. But let me hold you accountable to your logic. the Father isn't omni present according to the bible because he asked moses to come to a certain place to see his back. Let's see. "here is a place near me where you may stand on a rock. When my glory passes by, I will put you in a cleft in the rock and cover you with my hand until I have passed by. Then I will remove my hand and you will see my back; but my face must not be see" So, your god met moses in a place in time-space.
@@kamo46 Why does al Lah need to descent, if al Lah is omni present *sahih albukhari 1145* ? The fact that mupedohammad explicitly says that al Lah _descents_ means that al Lah cannot be omni present, because al Lah moves from point A to point B in space time, and that means, al Lah is a physical being taking of physical space, and that al Lah is only one place at a time in time-space.
@@MilitantAntiAtheism Allah, Exalted is He, is Present everywhere in terms of His knowledge, i.e., He knows all things, all that is happening, all that happened, all that would happen, if it could, how it would happen, everywhere. Do yourself a solid and stop spewing ignorance. Insulting the prophet of God for doing what your prophets did is beyond ignorant. Allah, Lord of all worlds, does not like the arrogant.
What are you talking about? Scroll all the way to the end at 3 hours and he's STILL THERE. This version isn't any different and shows no running. Keep up the lies and cope 🤡
@@Exor_. lol I knew it that the side effect of BS trinity even decreases your English. Running away doesn't mean standing up and actually Run. Running away at the end where he receives multi points to refut but only chooses couple and ignores the rest until the time is over. And whatever makes you feel better boy lol your Sam until this second couldn't prove or even dares to talk about the trinity, Daniel called him out on this and all what Sam did was saying "yes I'm going to hellfire" 😂
Muslims always steal, nothing original. Wait actually they did come up with one original phrase: "from the river to the sea, Palestine will be free" 😂 pathetic
Sammary: -Daniel predicts exactly what scamo will do, never defends the incoherent trinity, and wishes tawheed is the same (jealousy). -Jay added absolutely nothing and only named random logical falicies he memorized a day before 😂
What jay did is called Jay's Bingo card. Daniel showed it in the stream. Jay usually does that, randomly say this fallacy, that fallacy without understanding it so that he can look cool.
I love how Muslims point out where the other team lost or couldn’t explain the points and the Christian bots are like “heheh he got destroyed” when you ask them what did he get destroyed on? They don’t say anything
@@thefrenchempire14 christianity has no ground to stand on, thats why majority of the christians are now athiests. and those who dont have common sense are still christians
Jay Dyer literally had nothing to add into the debate, he was just spitting out the types of fallacies he learned night before. Never seen a more useless co participant in a debate.
hahaha Jay didn’t need didn’t to add anything. Sam was drilling Danielaaaaa and the Smurf next to him. What a embarrassment to Muslims and they still deny the facts.
Sam makes nonsensical, irrational arguments, out of nowhere, that no one in the world had claimed or made, then proceeds to debunk his own gibberish, which he confusedly attributes to others. The level of dishonesty, and slithering evil is unbearable to watch. Had to skip him to survive the onslaught on my brain cells.
He's so damn annoying, constantly making his own straw man islamic arguments and attacking them. Couldn't defend his own religion at all, absolute joke. Completely carried by the muslim haters online
Daniel claimed the god in the old testament was Jesus... When the Quran references verses from said old testament as Allah. He literally did so.. Y'all are so stupid it's amazing
Daniel pigachu repeatedly quoting Jesus as the God of the Old Testament and attesting the destruction God preceded in the old testament, Sam replied to him saying if this is bothering you, your Allah did the same in Quran and that means your Allah did and here Christ did therefore Christ is Allah... that's what he's whole point is and ofcourse Pagan stone lickers always has hard time understanding people's brain
Do you think, one reason why so many muslims leave islame and convert to Christianity, is because flaming homosexual mupedohammad claimed to be allah *sahih albukhari 7137* ?
Déja commence par essayez de definir ta trinité de croyance paienne, Abraham, Moise, David pbut ont toujours parler de l,unicité du Tout Puiissant n,ont jamais parler d,un sois disant fils mais dans la mythologie grecque y a bien zeus et son fils hercules mi homme mi dieu !!! Vous etes trop marrant vous prétendez mais sans aucun argument logique, sensé, valable que des suppositions ne s,appuyant sur rien du tout a part des croyances limitantes
I think the argument the Christian side is making is that Surah Al Ikhlas doesn’t fully account for how the Quran speaks about God and to say it’s as simple as one surah is a total cope.
(Part 1) To bring this to a very simple understanding. Google a prisim with light going through it. This is what my metaphor will focus on. - In a photo with a prison and light going through it. How many lights are there? I ask many Muslims this and they say, there are 7 - 8 lights. - My response: It’s 1 light Different colors It’s one light and the prism (the triangle 📐) separates the multiple colors within the 1 light. Imagine you were color blind and saw the same photo It is just 1 light I hope you know why I asked you this. - 1) 1 Element (Solid, Liquid, Gas) 2) 1 Atom (Quantum Superposition) 3) 1 light through a prism (📐) Now combine them all into one. - This is why Muslims think Christianity is a poly religion. - They also think there are 8 lights in one light. No it’s 1 light and different colors within the 1 light. - They think 🧊 | 💧 | 💨 are three different entities / elements No it’s 1 element in different states / forms - They think an atom ⚛️ can only exist in one place at a time. No atoms can and do exist and function in multiple places simultaneously (Quantum Superposition). - They believe God is all powerful, all knowing, has no limits and the creator of all. However, the Elements, the Atoms, the Light can all do what God himself can’t do. Be 1 - Metaphorically speaking… White light ⚪️💡 = The Father Yellow light 🟡💡 = The Holy Spirit Blue light 🔵💡 = The Son The blue light is the son. The white light is the father. The blue light is divided from source but still at the same exact time is source… but is already divided and limited. The white light is undivided the pure source… the unlimited. The blue light prays to the white light for more strength and guidance because it is the same light but in a limited… in a divided away from pure source state / form. It is still just one light. One is just higher in form than the other. Many people ask how can God and Jesus be one and the same. But one be the Father and one be The Son. Well we can look at: 1 Element (Solid 🧊, Liquid💧, Gas 💨) 1 Atom ⚛️ (Quantum Superposition) 1 light through a prism (📐) Now combine them all into one. And then God is to infinity and beyond this. - God is 1 - No partners. No helpers. None but God and God alone. God | The Great, I Am | Allah | Yahweh Only 1 God No partners. No associates. - Just as in the metaphor there is only 1 light. No secondary lights. No accent lights (partners). In the metaphor there is only 1 light. - ••••••••••••••• I hope this makes sense for you. Praise be to the most high. The highest. No other can compare. No other can compete. No other can fathom. How great God is. 1 God. No partners. No helpers. No associates. Just 1 God. Praise be to the most high. - There God is. Each realm that we exist in. He was already there before. God is beyond and outside of any and all realms AND he is in each and every realm we exist within. - We are in the Spirit / Soul Realm... and there is God. The Holy Spirit. God goes before us, is with us, and never leaves us. - We are in the Space-Time, Atomic Matter Realm and there is God. Jesus. God goes before us, is with us, and never leaves us. - Receipts 🧾: "It is the LORD who goes before you. He will be with you; he will not leave you or forsake you. Do not fear or be dismayed." - Deuteronomy 31:6-8 - God's promise that "I will never leave you nor forsake you" is found in multiple books of the Bible, in both the Old and New Testaments. With this promise, we can be assured that He is always with us. - We have been made in the image and likeness of God. Receipts 🧾: "Then God said, "Let us make mankind in our image, in our likeness, so that they may rule over the fish in the sea and the birds in the sky, over the livestock and all the wild animals, and over all the creatures that move along the ground." So God created mankind in his own image, in the image of God he created them; male and female he created them. God blessed them and said to them, "Be fruitful and increase in number; fill the earth and subdue it. Rule over the fish in the sea and the birds in the sky and over every living creature that moves on the ground."- Genesis 1:26-28 - Allah is Big G. The Great I Am. We are his children. little g's. little i ams. - Receipts 🧾: "[6] I have said, Ye are gods; and all of you are children of the most High. [7] But ye shall die like men. and fall like one of the princes." - Psalms 82:6-7 - Receipts 🧾: "Jesus replied, "It is written in vour own Scriptures that God said to certain leaders of the people, 'I say, you are gods!" - John 10:34 - To deny the trinity is to deny our own duality. And to deny that God did not make us in his image. Did not make us in his likeness. That God does not always go before us. That God does not lead us. That God leaves and forsakes us. (Deuteronomy 31:6-8) - To deny the trinity is to deny Gods promise to us. To deny his goal in creation for us to be made in his image and likeness. To deny our very own duality state (body and soul/ spirit) and God's supreme untouchable, unfathomable, nothing like him God's Trinity state. In any realm that we exist within... He goes before us, he is with us, and he will never leave nor forsake us. AND he is beyond us and beyond any form and beyond any realm. - There is only one GOD. Big G. The Father | The Holy Spirit | The Son. - The same light just in different realms like the prism. The prism acts metaphorically as a realm. The white light acts metaphorically as The Father (Allah). The individual colors act metaphorically as The Son and The Holy Spirit. This is just a metaphor as nothing can capture and describe fully how magnificent God is. Praise be to God. Praise be to Yahweh | The Great, I Am | Allah. - Praise be to Yahweh. Praise be to the Great I Am. Praise be to Allah. Praise be to God and his promise... each realm we are in there God is before us, with us, and to never leave nor forsake us, to lead and guide us.
How can it be, that abdooools will recognize pagan moon god Lah on his shin, and not on his three eyes and two right hands *sahih albukhari 4919* ? How many do you know who have three eyes and two right hands?
@@fazrieisa6654the schim between Catholics and orthodox happened because both want to lead the church under one leader; the pope in Rome and the great patriarch of Constantinople same happened with Islam with Sunni and Shia they split by power but the theological teachings are the same in Christian and Muslim world.
@@JoseOrtiz-xe6lk orthodox didn't united in one leader, instead they decentralized to their culture denomination like patriach of moscow In their history both catholic/orthodox are blame heretical each others
@@JoseOrtiz-xe6lk i was gonna say like most christian explaining trinity is basically in modalism, tritheism, demism, etc You didn't have unity between trinitarian believe
Christianity in a nutshell God created Original Sin to remove it by creating Himself, to sacrifice Himself to Himself and paying Himself for Original sin to Himself
Sorry you got it wrong God created original sin to remove it by creating himself to then impregnate his own mother to give birth to himself so that he can sacrifice himself to himself for sins to himself
Allah deceived everyone into believing Jesus was crucified. This made a religion called Christianity where people believe Jesus was crucified, and now this allah sees that he made a mistake, something that he cannot stop.😅
@@SacredWarrior999 why stop at 3 , continue 😂 Where is the uncreated place that your trinity god always existed in ? Ops you got yourself a 4th god Congratulations 😂
@@lyrickoner Do you think, one reason why so many muslims leave islame and convert to Christianity, is because Umar received divine revelation too from pagan moon god Lah and without mupedohammad knowing *sahih albukhari 402* so Umar is a prophet of Lah too ?
@@AntiAtheismIsUnstoppablerecite the hadith if you dare the enemy of Christianity is logic and context uamar said some ayat were abrogated just like the prophet said
@@killerbee6484 *sahih albukhari 402* Umar makes at least three queer'an verses, directly from Lah, and Lah fulfilling Umars speech, not mupedohammads. So, Umar is prefered prophet of Lah and Umar should therefore be in shahadada too.
@@AntiAtheismIsUnstoppable Seriously? 😂😂😂 First, let's clarify what "revelation" (Wahy) means in Islam. Revelation is the direct communication from Allah to His chosen prophets, delivering His divine message and guidance. This process is exclusive to prophets, and no one else receives divine revelation in the form of Wahy. Now, regarding the incident you're referring to: Umar ibn Al-Khattab (RA) did suggest to the Prophet Muhammad (PBUH) to pray between the Kaaba and the Maqam of Ibrahim. This suggestion was later confirmed by a verse revealed by Allah in the Quran, Surah Al-Baqarah (2:125): *"And take, [O believers], from the standing place of Abraham a place of prayer."* However, this does not mean that Umar (RA) received revelation. What it actually shows is that Umar’s thought aligned with divine wisdom, which Allah confirmed through revelation to His Prophet. There are times when a person might express a thought or idea that coincides with divine truth, but that does not mean they are receiving revelation. It simply means that the person’s thought is correct and Allah, in His wisdom, confirms it through His chosen messenger. A similar situation occurred in the incident with the woman who came to the Prophet Muhammad (PBUH) to complain about her husband who had compared her to his mother, effectively divorcing her through the pre-Islamic practice of Zihar. The Prophet (PBUH) initially told her that the divorce stood, but she pleaded and prayed to Allah for a solution. Allah then revealed Surah Al-Mujadila (58:1-4) in response to her plea, which changed the ruling and provided a way for reconciliation. In both cases, the individuals involved (Umar and the woman) expressed concerns or made suggestions that were later affirmed through divine revelation, but they did not receive the revelation themselves. The revelation was received exclusively by the Prophet Muhammad (PBUH), as he was the one chosen by Allah to deliver His message to humanity. So, the claim that Umar (RA) received revelation is not only incorrect but also shows a misunderstanding of the nature of divine revelation in Islam. Umar’s suggestion was indeed wise, and Allah confirmed it through revelation, but this confirmation was given to the Prophet Muhammad (PBUH) as part of his mission to convey Allah’s guidance to the people. Just because someone's thought aligns with divine truth doesn’t make them a recipient of revelation; it simply means they have spoken the truth, which Allah, the All-Knowing, may affirm. In conclusion, the idea that Umar received revelation is baseless. What happened was that his thought aligned with divine wisdom, and Allah confirmed it through the Prophet Muhammad (PBUH). This is the same way Allah responded to the woman’s plea, not by revealing to her directly, but by revealing a solution to His Prophet.
No surprise here. christians threw their religion under the bus and also threw logic under the bus. Internet is the second worst thing that happened to christianity. The first worst thing was the illogical trinity😂😂😂😂
No surprise here. christians threw their religion under the bus and also threw logic under the bus. Internet is the second worst thing that happened to christianity. The first worst thing was the illogical trinity😂😂😂😂
There are so many Muslims who have left and become Christians, so there's no need to pretend. Get all Muslims countries to remove the de*th penalty for apostasy and critiquing Islam, and you'll see way, way more come out. When your religion threatens people with d*ath for leaving and they are still leaving in droves, you should start to rethink things. In the West, people have complete freedom to leave Christianity and preach Islam on the street corners, and there are still so few who join Islam and stay (many of the few who join leave within 3 years when they find out much of what they were told about Islam by the Muslim apologists is false). So let me know when you start petitioning Muslim countries to allow people to actually choose what they believe is true.
What’s with these new Christian debaters? Their identity would be more accurately described as Islam-haters rather than being “Christian”. The hostility, disrespect and mockery from this Sam guy is repulsive. Seems like a bigot.
@@avilsrael9141 Well, yhou're correct that pagan moon god Lah runs pdf file ring of handsome bacha bazi boys in jannah for the muslim men *surah 76:19* But... as several scholars have pointed out, that is okay, it is not homosexuality because they're not adult
@@MilitantAntiAtheism ‘The Prophet (ﷺ) said, "Do not tell a lie against me for whoever tells a lie against me (intentionally) then he will surely enter the Hell-fire."
Yep, al Lah is not omni present because he needs to DESCEND, move in physical space-time, so he is a physical being, limited by physical laws. And that is also one reason why al Lah is not all powerful.
The fact that Christians like you spam ‘Islam lost’ in the comments here and on the stream instead of watching the debate and addressing the subjects discussed, says a lot about Christianism and how weak of a belief it is when confronted with facts.
It's actually sad how badly confirmation bias affects Muslims 💀 I've never seen this with literally any other community lmfao only Muslims get smashed in every single debate and then start cheering thinking they won every time
@@Martysopinionnotyours yes we admit that .. we have no problems … consensual marriage .. girl over puberty and able to marry .. she has her right to say no .. but Thomas aquinos your church father .. pre pubescent marriage having intercourse 😁 deal with that , also Jesus pbuh he never gave no marriage age , if you want to follow Christianity u have to go to your church fathers and that’s Aquinos .. until 1900s everyone was following him - girls got married at 7 .. this was the norm !!! 😁 so are you saying your grandad was a paedophile now ? I’ll wait for your answer
I don't understand how shameless you can be to allow yourself to go into a serious debate and your arguments are all misinterpretations of the coran and hadiths like wut!?, no Muslim in 1400years ever heard or even considered shamshoun's interpretations as they are literal jokes, and throughout the whole 3 hours he didn't explain the trinity once always throwing misinterpretations to change the topic from it(if any christian see this and don't agree please explain your trinity down here if you can that is) you will see how nonsensical it is
I'm still waiting to hear the christian defence for their beliefs, 'cause these two (sam/dryer) invented a new version of Islam and kept attacking it...
I think we can all agree. Sam got humiliated. It was beautiful to watch this disrespectful loser get it, Alhamdullilah. 😌 It was so easy, Daniel proceeded to troll them mid-away.
I never watched Sam shamoun after watching one of his shorts when he explained trinity. A Christian guy was asking for trinity clarification and Sam explained, "You have a car? Does it have body, engine & wheels? There you go 3 in 1, that's trinity!" And me as a Muslim was thinking, just on the surface level of the argument, how does he solve the co-equal part? A wheel 🛞 spins, body of a car 🚗 doesn't.
He uses these cheap tricks against low iq easy targets who were probably payed to call to begin with because i really doubt a human with a brain can accept that analogy
@@syedharis3235 fam.... Y'all believe Satan f's himself with his penis vagina legs an lays eggs. It's not difficult to understand that God can do things humans can't.... Y'all purposely play dumb?
When you look at the comments on the fresh and fit channel, the christians make it seem like it was the biggest victory since the crusades. So much so that i genuinely felt nervous until i watched it and i have to say. It was such a waste of time. Sam was making it seem like he had the best arguments with such arrogance when in actual fact, his logic was so all over the place its amazing he knows how to put his cloths on in the morning. One thing though, you guys should have called him out for sources and references because i feel like there was more of "take my word for it" on his part which could have easily been challenged and dismissed with a simple line of questioning.
If this is the best Christianity has to offer then no wonder so many in the West are leaving Christianity... every time Sam spoke he dodged the question of trinity but kept bringing up the topic "trinity vs tawhid" lol
There were no facts presented and even other Muslims were saying they could have done better. Islam got 100% destroyed and there's nothing you can do about it. 🤡
I think the argument the Christian side is making is that Surah Al Ikhlas doesn’t fully account for how the Quran speaks about God and to say it’s as simple as one surah is a total cope.
@@EricAlHarbChristian side was just deliberately misinterpreting monotheism and putting words in others mind ! Which is ridiculous and childish and clearly shows they have no leg to stand on
@@EricAlHarbwho run from scripture Sam and Jay didn't even explained trinity what just they were doing was trying to come up with Allah hand and etc etc
At the morality part of the debate, I always remember those videos from Sheikh Ahmed Deedat. He would always bring up the 10+ cases of incest in the Bible, and to those no Christian had an answer when they would debate him.
@@Metanoia7-J Yes, but at the same time there are over 10 cases of incest in the same Bible you quoted that from. For example, the Bible mentions that the 2 daughters of Prophet Lot (peace and blessings be upon him) intoxicated their father with alcohol and then took turns to sleep with him, so that they could get pregnant (Astaghfirullah). What is the logic behind this incest story?
al Lah cannot protect anything, because al Lah only knows about any event 12 hours after it happened. For example, al Lah failed to prevent Holy Tame Sheep from eating queer'an, and he failed to prevent flaming homosexual mupedohammad from making satanic verses into queer'an. al Lah is so sloow, that even his own creation, Adam, asked him to finish him before sunset. But al Lah also only have one leg and he has two right hands at the same time.
No surprise here. christians threw their religion under the bus and also threw logic under the bus. Internet is the second worst thing that happened to christianity. The first worst thing was the illogical trinity😂😂😂😂
No surprise here. christians threw their religion under the bus and also threw logic under the bus. Internet is the second worst thing that happened to christianity. The first worst thing was the illogical trinity😂😂😂😂
This debate went really well. Was worried when I first saw the comments on the fresh and fit channel, before watching it. It went great though, clearly manipulated dishonest comments
Yeah, thats the tactic, to be manipulative, conniving and deceitful. They know, they stand no chance otherwise, and so they're conceding defeat in their own looney way. Daniel also mentioned that this is a z ionist tactic as well. How ironic for them.
They shared the debate link in their socials so their cheerleaders flooded the comments with their coping do the job they failed to do, any open minded person can see they made no point like even christians know we don't worship the hand or foot or a sourat as another god besides the one and only Allah.
1. In Christianity, Rape is permissible.(Deu.22/26-29) 2. Adultery is permissible. (2 Samuel 11/2-5) 3. Keeping sex-slaves is permissible.(1 Kings 11/3) 4. Slavery is permissible (1 Peter 2/18-19, Ephesians 6/5,1 Timothy 6/1-2, Exodus 21/21, Leviticus 25/44-48). 5. Sexual intercourse between father and daughter is permissible. (Genesis 19/30-36) 6. Infant sex is permissible, child marriage permissible . (Gen 22-26) 7. Marrying a divorced woman is equal to adultery (Matthew 5/32). 8. Beheading is permissible. (Numbers 31/9-18) 9. Selling one's own daughter as a slave is permissible. (Exodus 21/7-8) 10. Wife beating is permissible.(Deuteronomy 25/11-12) 11. Theft-robbery-snatching is permissible. (Deut 20/14) 12. Rape of step mother is permissible. (Genesis 35:22, 2 Samuel 16/22) 13. Sex with brother-in-law is permissible.(Genesis 36/6-19) 14. As much as one like,Polygamy is permissible. (1 Kings 11/3). 15. Beating slaves is permissible. (Exodus 21/21, Luke 12/46-48). 16. Temporary / mut'ah marriage is permissible. (Deut 24/1-2) 17. Cursing innocent people is permissible. (Matthew 23/38) 18. Sex with daughter-in-law is permissible.(Gen 36) 19. Marrying step sisters is permissible. (Genesis 20/12). 20. Rape of step-sisters is permissible. (2 Samuel 13/ 11-14) 21. Carrying out genocide is permissible.(Deuteronomy 20/13-18, Hosea 13/16, Hebrews 11/32-34) 22. Creation of high and low inequality is permissible. (Matthew 15/23-27) 23. Walking naked is permissible.(Isaiah 20/2-6). 24. Calling infidels as dogs, donkeys, pigs etc is permissible. (Matthew 15/26, 7/8; Genesis 17/12) 25. Calling the simple-hearted infidels by the name of food and drink and kill them by trickery is permissible. (1 Kings 17/40, 2 Kings 10/ 17-28) 26. Punishing the son for the fault of the father is permissible. (Isaiah 14/21, Exodus 20/5) 27. Going to the area of foreigners and demolishing their temples, idols and altars is permissible.(Exodus 34/13) 28. Slaughtering unarmed prisoners, burning them to death is permissible. (2 Samuel 12/29-31) 29. Killing unjust plants and animals is permissible.(Matthew 21/19, Mark 11/13-14, 5/10-13, 1 Samuel 15/1-3). 30. Depriving a girl from the inheritance of property is permissible. (Numbers 28/7). 31.Taking wine is permissible. (John 2/1-10). 32. Killing anyone for denying Jesus is permissible. (Luke 19/28). 33. Threatening the infidels by saying that they would be uprooted like weeds,is permissible. (Matthew 15/13-14). 34. Depriving a girl child from the right of education / sending her to school is permissible. (1 Corinthians 14/35) 35. Using bad language is permissible. (Matthew 18/23, 23/13-33)
@@lifethroughromans8295 Show us where in Islam Muslims are allowed to lie except when they are threatened to be killed for their faith However In the bible you’re allowed to lie for faith and to make people Christians by lying to them Romans 3:7 But if through my lie God's truth abounds to his glory, why am I still being condemned as a sinner?
@lifethroughromans8295 where's your proof? The brother gave u books with verses and chapters and such while u just make blank statements with no such evidence!
Stop confusing us for Paul - Corinthians 9:20-22 New International Version 20 To the Jews I became like a Jew, to win the Jews. To those under the law I became like one under the law (though I myself am not under the law), so as to win those under the law. 21 To those not having the law I became like one not having the law (though I am not free from God’s law but am under Christ’s law), so as to win those not having the law. 22 To the weak I became weak, to win the weak. I have become all things to all people so that by all possible means I might save some.@@lifethroughromans8295
The guys didn't even try to defend the trinity ( core of their religion) Sam said attributes make it not one god but gods while he believe in human being with hands legs . According to sam concept if god is merciful it is now two gods not one then !!!! understandable that their god needed to die to forgive them for sin they didn't do !!!.
Due to the Christians in the comments section of fresh Chanel I was unable to watch the debate over there they were so insulting they perfectly reflect Sam . They didn’t even touch on the trinity at all . Without Islam frankly i would become agnostic.
No, as I told the other abdooool, al Lah is not omni present. And this is explained to abdooools by the flaming homosexual mupedohammad, *Sunan Abi Dawud 1315* so Lah needs to _descend_ in order to hear the muslims prayers, since he suffers from sever hearing loss, and he would not need to _descend_ if he was actually omni present, because he would already be at his destination. And since he is not omni present, he cannot be all powerful either.
@@MilitantAntiAtheism Yes, for god to be all powerful he needs to be weak like your god is.🤣 For him to be all knowing he needs to be ignorant about the hour 🤣🤣 For him to be immortal he needs to be sacrificed. 🤣🤣🤣
SUMMARY 00:00 - 3:15(intro) 3:15 - 4:53 ( frame of debate explained by Myron) 4:54 - 9:20 (introduction of Tawheed by Daniel) 9:21 - 14:30 (Team Christianity with no introduction of Trinity) 13:45 (Daniel shows Jay his Bingo card) 14:31 - 17:40 (Team Islam, Ijaz responded to Shamon's claim Quran as not Kalam and Restablished Tawheed) 17:41 - 19:07 (Daniel's speculation of Shamon tactic of debate is established & The hand of Allah doesn't disprove Oneness of Allah) 19:08 - 23:20 (Team Christianity again the claim of Allah's hand and Quran have mind but unable to dispute Tawheed) 23:20 - 25:25 (Brother Ijaz teaches Tawheed and establish Allah as first and the last contrast to Christianity where god have to become first and last) 25:26 - 26:36(Daniel prove intercession of Quran doesn't mean it have mind by Quran chapter 36:65) 26:37 - 27:40(Daniel bring god have hand in Christianity too) 27:41 - 32:21 (Still no words about Trinity from team Christianity but stick accusation of Quran's intercession and anthropomorphism of God) 32:22 - 34:32 (Ijaz presses Jay Dayer how Christian god is ignorant) 34:33 - 36:60 (Daniel expose Sam as Heretic according to Jay and Daniel bring Luke 19:40, Isaiah 55:12 to show stone even cry, mountain song and trees clap doesn't imply they have mind) 36:61 - 37:07 (Daniel explain problem of Trinity Jesus, father and holy spirit have seperate mind from each other) 37:08 - 37:40 (Ijaz point out Jesus status of begotten in scripture is changed) 37:41 - 42:28(Team Christianity gish gallop ) 42:30 - (Starting of Open dialogue for Tawheed vs Trinity section) 43:45 - (Daniel explain Hand of Allah doesn't contradict Tawheed) 45:18 - (Jay accept Catholicism leads to heresy) 45:58 (Sam accept himself as Heretic and asked for Jay's prayer to save himself from hellfire) 46:56 (Daniel Explain personification of intercession doesn't imply seperate mind) 49:48 (Daniel establishes Father and Jesus have different mind and asked question how Father and Jesus can have same and different mind at the same time) 51:18 (Ijaz asked question why Jesus doesn't know the hour) 55:10 - 59:26(Team Christianity again started with no introduction but attacking on Prophet Muhammad(Sa) for Second section of debate "Criticism of preservation of scripture") 59:27 - 1:03:54 (Ijaz establishes that no scribe of Bible goes back to time of Jesus) 1:03:54 - 1:08:21 (Team Christianity try to respond and Sam's accusation of Prophet Muhammad(Sa) confirm Bible) 1:08:22 - 1:12:30 (Daniel establishes fact of Quranic manuscripts goes back to Prophet(Sa) time vs Canonization of Bible in 4th century) 1:12:30 - 1:16:37 (Team Christianity response, Sam's claim of Birmingham manuscript only contain few chapters and Sam's acceptance Bible were written at different time by different person contrast to Quran) 1:16:37 - 1:21:29 (Ijaz establishes there is consensus among early Muslim about Quran, mention multiple manuscripts of Quran and verification of manuscripts of Quran by stylometry) 1:21:30 - 1:21:54(Daniel refute to Sam's claim by mentioning multiple manuscripts of Quran together is the Quran we have today, not only Birmingham manuscript) 1:22:09 (Starting of Open dialogue for textual preservation) 1:22:45 (Daniel asked question about number of scholar consider old testament trace back to Moses vs Number of scholar consider Quran trace back to Muhammad(Sa)) 1:24:38 (Sam's question about oldest Mushaf of Quran) 1:24:54 - 1:26:22(Daniel response to Sam's question and establishes scholarly material and book which verify Quranic manuscripts goes back to Prophet(Sa) vs Zero scholar think biblical manuscripts goes back to Jesus). 1:26:23 - 1:28:00 (Ijaz adds that Sam's belief about codex Sinaiticus belongs to trash) 1:28:00 - 1:29:27 (Jay accept Christianity is not book based religion, Christian do not believe on recording event when it is happening) 1:31:26 1:33:44 (Daniel refute Sam's claim whether Quran verifies early scripture Torah, Injeel). 1:33:45 - 1:36:27 ( Sam' s claim about Qira'at) 1:36:28 - 1:39:25(Ijaz response to Sam about genealogical study of manuscripts of Quran And presses Jay to on whether codex Sinaiticus belongs to trash) 1:40:25 (Third part of debate Morality in Islam vs Christianity) 1:41:24 - 1:42:49 : (Jay's claim of Islam as continuity and Personal Morality in bible) 1:42:50 - 1:46:24 ( Sam's false dichotomy of Prophet have to live up to biblical standard or he is false prophet) 1:46:25 - 1:51:50 (Daniel's introduction on morality in Islam vs Christianity, Pro genocide Jesus, selling daughter to slavery in Christianity, Age of marriage in Christianity according to church tradition, Mary betrothed to Joseph at age 12) 1:51:51 - 1:57:35 ( Jay's claim of biblical morality as ritual purification as a defense, Sam's peculiar claim of Jesus is Allah, Sam's attack on Prophet). 1:56:58 - Brother Daniel shows Mario(Plumber) to Sam in response to Sam's attack on Prophet Muhammad(Sa) 1:57:13 - Myron plays MAMA MIA from Mario 1:57:37 - 1:59:55 (Daniel debunked Christian morality of minor marriage, concubinage) 1:59:55 - 2:00:46 (Ijaz add Mathew 23, violence against wife in Christianity, Pharisees liking young girl) 2:00:47 - 2:03:50 (Daniel mention plumber as response to Sam's attack on Prophet, Daniel presses Jay on war practices (not ritual purification), Minor marriage according Christian Canon law, Ijaz presses Sam on violence against women and Minor marriage) 2:03:51 - 2:09:51 (Jay stick to continuity argument without substantiating, Sam asking Daniel complete quotation of Thomas Aquinas regarding Minor marriage, Sam's false equivalence of Noah's flood and biblical commandment of genocide) 2:09:52 - 2:18:58 (Superchat discussion) 2:18:59 - 2:20:48 (Daniel reads the quotation of Thomas Aquinas as response to Sam and ask Jay whether he condemn minor marriage or not) 2:20:48 - 2:22:38 (Jay reject Thomas Aquinas, asks Daniel about purpose of ritual purity) 2:22:39 - 2:25:02 (Daniel refute Jay's claim ritual purification in Islam is continuity from previous religion) 2:25:03 - 2:26:01 (Daniel presses Jay whether he condemn Thomas Aquinas position or not) 2:26:02 - 2:26:34 (Daniel asks Sam whether he condemn biblical morality which is commanded by Jesus as god) 2:26:35 - 2:30:09 (Sam's claim of God set theocracy by appearing, Jay stick to his refuted argument of continuity, Sam again brings Noah's flood to compare genocidal commandment of bible) 2:30:09 - 2:33:56 (Daniel and Ijaz establishes forbidden of killing women, children, destroying of property according Quran and Hadith, Daniel establishes Jews after Sinai were still abiding Mosaic law even without Miracles of pillar of cloud as a sign of theocracy, Daniel read Gracian quotation about minor marriage and ask whether Jay condemn it as Pedophilia) 2:33:57 - 2:39:20( Sam failed establish argument of theocracy, Superchat question by Myron, Daniel explain having multiple attributes doesn't contradict Tawheed) 2:39:22 (Daniel bring nature of gods in Trinity is different with different mind, will and knowledge) 2:45:30 (Jay again got Bingo card from Daniel) 2:46:36 - 2:48:57 (Daniel differentiate between Bible and Quran to establish Noah's flood is not equivalent to Jesus commanding soldier of Moses for genocide) 2:50:02 - 2:52:23 (Daniel and Ijaz caught Sam on lying on Hadith and make him read Hadith, but no where murder or rape is found in that Hadith). 2:52:24 - 2:54:12 (Sam lie on Quran) 2:54:13 - 2:54:49(Daniel and Ijaz caught Sam again on his lie and shows no verse of Quran condone rape or murder as contrast to Bible) 2:54:49 - 2:59:47(Sam goes for babbling, Daniel explain murdering, raping and pillaging is not found in Quran and Sunnah as contrast to Bible, Superchat question about minor marriage answered by Daniel) 2:59:48 (Final words from Myron)
الآية 17 من سورة surah Al-Maidah ﴿لَّقَدْ كَفَرَ الَّذِينَ قَالُوا إِنَّ اللَّهَ هُوَ الْمَسِيحُ ابْنُ مَرْيَمَ ۚ قُلْ فَمَن يَمْلِكُ مِنَ اللَّهِ شَيْئًا إِنْ أَرَادَ أَن يُهْلِكَ الْمَسِيحَ ابْنَ مَرْيَمَ وَأُمَّهُ وَمَن فِي الْأَرْضِ جَمِيعًا ۗ وَلِلَّهِ مُلْكُ السَّمَاوَاتِ وَالْأَرْضِ وَمَا بَيْنَهُمَا ۚ يَخْلُقُ مَا يَشَاءُ ۚ وَاللَّهُ عَلَىٰ كُلِّ شَيْءٍ قَدِيرٌ﴾ [ المائدة: 17] Sahih International - صحيح انترناشونال They have certainly disbelieved who say that Allah is Christ, the son of Mary. Say, "Then who could prevent Allah at all if He had intended to destroy Christ, the son of Mary, or his mother or everyone on the earth?" And to Allah belongs the dominion of the heavens and the earth and whatever is between them. He creates what He wills, and Allah is over all things competent.
The point at issue is what Muslims and Christians WORSHIP. Muslims don't worship hands, nor anything else other than Allah (swt). Christians worship Jesus, The Father and The Holy Spirit which are three beings. They're polytheists, we're monotheists. Their argument made absolutely no sense. Even if our limbs on the Day of Resurrection spoke or had a mind of their own, it is in no way related to the context of the debate. The issue at hand is what we WORSHIP.
@@starship9629 Yes, oh kafir, cause they're part of Allah, Allah says He hears, and we know that to hear you must have ears, and what Allah has for hearing we don't know, and He has for hearing whatever befits His majesty and the thing He has for hearing it's eternal with him..!
@@MilitantAntiAtheism 😂😂😂 Al means The and La means No! Allah is unlike his creation! And you're pulling the same stunt that Sam is. If Allah has a face It in no way affects or changes the Oneness of God / Tawheed!
@@christopherwells3426 al means god and Lah is the name of the god. And al Lah does have a face. And he has eyes (multiple), hands (two right hands), five fingers, one leg, a shin and a foot. But... al Lah does not have a spirit. So, al Lah is dead. It is a statue.
The third topic was an overkill, Good job brother Daniel. Sam dodged that with " you admitted Jesus is Allah" excuse and talking about jay, he didn't point out any necessary rebuttals and made excuse that Daniel is admitting that Quran has the continuity of old testament's sayings , which was a strawman, because Daniel literally said over time that this bible verse says that which Quran condemns this bible verse is even rough than the Quran, unlike the bible the Quran doesn't say that etc etc. it was big dishonesty from jay
Daniel and ijaz won the second and third topic of preservation and morals they didn't do good in the trinity vs twhid topic sam was trying to prove that the Quran is not preserved from Islamic sources and a false dilemma 😂 and they didn't defend killing kids in the old testament
No surprise here. christians threw their religion under the bus and also threw logic under the bus. Internet is the second worst thing that happened to christianity. The first worst thing was the illogical trinity😂😂😂😂
No surprise here. christians threw their religion under the bus and also threw logic under the bus. Internet is the second worst thing that happened to christianity. The first worst thing was the illogical trinity😂😂😂😂
At one part, Sam said he's going to 'corner em'. In the end, all I can see is him turning off camera, insulting everyone left and right, and gesturing unnecessarily many times. Seems like Sam got cornered instead.
LMAO you guys are so freaking miserably stupid.. Not a surprize Islam left such horrible fruit throughout history, and horrible countries under despotic laws.
What i see from the debate. Muslim : talk about islam and christian. Christian : talk about islam. Sam so emotional towards daniel, targeting him personally. Didn't even try to answer the question but expect muslim team to answer him.
Are you dreaming of handsome very young boys in jannah *surah 76:19* ? Don't worry, because as the scholars say, since they're not adult then it is not homosexuality
@@MilitantAntiAtheism yes young men , as servents not husbands😂,do u want old ugly people serving u? And if u ask where does it say serve check out verse 17-18 in chapter 56: There will circulate among them young boys made eternal (17) With vessels, pitchers and a cup [of wine] from a flowing spring (18) Keep trying
No surprise here. christians threw their religion under the bus and also threw logic under the bus. Internet is the second worst thing that happened to christianity. The first worst thing was the illogical trinity😂😂😂😂
No surprise here. christians threw their religion under the bus and also threw logic under the bus. Internet is the second worst thing that happened to christianity. The first worst thing was the illogical trinity😂😂😂😂
No surprise here. christians threw their religion under the bus and also threw logic under the bus. Internet is the second worst thing that happened to christianity. The first worst thing was the illogical trinity😂😂😂😂
❤ No surprise here. christians threw their religion under the bus and also threw logic under the bus. Internet is the second worst thing that happened to christianity. The first worst thing was the illogical trinity😂😂😂😂🎉🎉🎉🎉🎉🎉🎉
I'm shocked...honestly. Somehow I didn't hear about this debate until I saw snips of it on TikTok and for some reason from Christian accounts. The snips and comments were just young Christians celebrating their "win" and propping up Sam. I went to watch the debate to see if Ejaz and Daniel somehow fumbled, they're human after all, but it's so clear that the Christians literally COULD NOT defend their beliefs without using a childish, incoherent and incorrect argument of Islam validating the books that came before. Daniel, I'm about seriously suggest the following because I've watched so many of yours and many other brothers debate and despite you guys clearly winning, I think we need to dumb down the argument/explanations we provide (especially up front). Not only for the opponent but more so for the general non-muslim, young audience that ends up watching these. If we had clearly addressed the fact that Islam doesn't validate THE CURRENT Bible/Torah and dealt with that it would've directed the debate better and helped the non-muslim audience understand how dumb these guys truly sound.
You can debate them if you are advising our brothers . They did a pretty good awesome job . All the matters were addressed clearly, I had no confusion. Maybe you missed the pulse brother .
Masha ALLAH brother Daniel ❤, this debate was very interesting and I'm very happy to see your intelligence and calmness throughout the debate, it was amazing like how you were rebutting their arguments ❤, special thanks to brother Ijaz as well, Jazaak ALLAH Ikhwaan ❤
You missed his absolute point. The same trauma the pigslims throwing on Christians regarding Trinity, Sam making a point where Quran appears as a man and he will intercede between you and Allah by speaking to Allah now if Allah and Qur'an are different then you have a huge problem since Qur'an is the word of Allah but if Allah is using Qur'an to talk to himself he is a medalist a condemned pagan heresy and schizophrenic
😂does anyone notice dyer debunked scammo verbal diarhea and his own xtianity? "No one ever said that the attributes are different persons" so why the heck did scam brought it out like an i-diot?
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إن شاء الله
Firstly i cursed myself , i impregnated my minor mother with myself. i prayed to myself i worshipped myself, as a result i got mob lynched by creation i created. i sacrificed myself to myself to save you from myself because of a rule i made myself. Then i resurrected myself to myself and made to sit myself at the right hand of myself
cant believe that someone can be christian in 21st century
Did you know? The most famous biographies of Mohammed, like those by Ibn Hisham (d. 833 AD) and Al-Waqidi (d. 835 AD), were written 200 years after his death. Why does this matter?
1. Geographical Distance: Ibn Hisham, a key source on Mohammed, lived in Egypt, far from Mecca and Medina. Al-Waqidi, though originally from Medina, wrote in Baghdad-far from where Mohammed lived.
2. Chronological Gap: These biographies were written well over a century after Mohammed’s death, relying on oral traditions passed down through generations. The gap between Mohammed’s death in 632 AD and these works (833-835 AD) raises questions about how much the stories could have changed.
3. No Eyewitnesses: Unlike the New Testament accounts of Jesus, which were written by eyewitnesses or close associates within decades, these Islamic biographies were written centuries later with no direct witnesses.
4. Historical Reliability: Given the time, distance, and lack of direct sources, how much of what we know about Mohammed’s life is based on fact versus legend?
If these biographers were so far removed from Mohammed’s time and place, can their accounts be considered accurate? Something to think about when discussing the origins of Islam.
What happened to the original debate video?
Sam shamoun is a clear liar and argues in bad faith, and his audience doesn't even do their own research
Bro they don't even bother to understand the counter arguments. Most of these goons did not even watch the full debate and were keen about commenting in the comment section. It seems that his Audience already made up their mind about the debate.
@@rojahj6524They cut the video shorter to proof their point and deliberately misses the full statement. That's just how they works with idiotic mindset.
@@redhakiim789 Because lie spread faster than truth. They know they were humiliated by facts presented by our brothers.
What can you expect his audience are mindless Bo✝️s
what exactly did Sam get wrong...just tell us.
Bro, that Quran talking argument to justify the three god heads of the trinity talking to each other … Alhamdulillah for Islam and the blessings of having intellect
Exactly, they have to make a complicated argument. But the fact is that Trinity defeats itself, and all it takes is common sense to see that the Bible contradicts itself with a few simple verses.
The Christians should find it concerning that they avoided explaining the Trinity and the Bible contradictions. Deep down they know but don't want to face the truth. At this point, they're treating it as some kind of Nationalism and it's probably tied to a secular reason after all.
I mean HOW HOW is that an issue!?!? Or the fact that god has attributes and now suddenly thats what makes it polytheism? Its so frustrating with them.
Also notice how Sam shamoun started his opening with how he is going to destroy tawhid.
But tawhid means oneness of god…. So in his opening statement he is litterly making a case about god being one. But at the same time believes that christians are monotheists?
lmao muslims coping hard
I think the argument the Christian side is making is that Surah Al Ikhlas doesn’t fully account for how the Quran speaks about God and to say it’s as simple as one surah is a total cope.
@@Radec913 God himself begging himself to save himself from the cross?
God himself let himself be killed naked on the cross?
what is this??????????
Daniel and Ijaz: Explain Trinity
Sam and Jay: Allah has a hand 🤯
ME: 🤣🤣🤣Christians will never be able to explain Trinity logically.
cHriStiAnS iN tHe bAckGrOunD : "sAm CoOkEd 🤡"
@@broccolimaguire2119 😂
Lol their god that they worship has hands too and private parts 🤣🤣
😂😂😂👏👏👏
@@broccolimaguire2119cooked himself
Daniel and Ijaz as always went into this debate proving Islam while disproving Christianity, while sam and Jay went into the debate just trying to disprove Islam while failing to defend Christianity
They did nothing lol Islam lost 🤡
@FreePalestine-nc5uh 😂 bro I bet this is Sam himself commenting here. He's sick in the head
@Exor_. Someone butthurt and coping lol. The video is clear for everyone to see
@@Exor_.seeth and cope
@@Exor_.
1. In Christianity, Rape is permissible.(Deu.22/26-29)
2. Adultery is permissible. (2 Samuel 11/2-5)
3. Keeping sex-slaves is permissible.(1 Kings 11/3)
4. Slavery is permissible (1 Peter 2/18-19, Ephesians 6/5,1 Timothy 6/1-2, Exodus 21/21, Leviticus 25/44-48).
5. Sexual intercourse between father and daughter is permissible. (Genesis 19/30-36)
6. Infant sex is permissible, child marriage permissible . (Gen 22-26)
7. Marrying a divorced woman is equal to adultery (Matthew 5/32).
8. Beheading is permissible. (Numbers 31/9-18)
9. Selling one's own daughter as a slave is permissible. (Exodus 21/7-8)
10. Wife beating is permissible.(Deuteronomy 25/11-12)
11. Theft-robbery-snatching is permissible. (Deut 20/14)
12. Rape of step mother is permissible. (Genesis 35:22, 2 Samuel 16/22)
13. Sex with brother-in-law is permissible.(Genesis 36/6-19)
14. As much as one like,Polygamy is permissible.
(1 Kings 11/3).
15. Beating slaves is permissible. (Exodus 21/21, Luke 12/46-48).
16. Temporary / mut'ah marriage is permissible. (Deut 24/1-2)
17. Cursing innocent people is permissible. (Matthew 23/38)
18. Sex with daughter-in-law is permissible.(Gen 36)
19. Marrying step sisters is permissible. (Genesis 20/12).
20. Rape of step-sisters is permissible. (2 Samuel 13/ 11-14)
21. Carrying out genocide is permissible.(Deuteronomy 20/13-18, Hosea 13/16, Hebrews 11/32-34)
22. Creation of high and low inequality is permissible. (Matthew 15/23-27)
23. Walking naked is permissible.(Isaiah 20/2-6).
24. Calling infidels as dogs, donkeys, pigs etc is permissible.
(Matthew 15/26, 7/8; Genesis 17/12)
25. Calling the simple-hearted infidels by the name of food and drink and kill them by trickery is permissible. (1 Kings 17/40, 2 Kings 10/ 17-28)
26. Punishing the son for the fault of the father is permissible.
(Isaiah 14/21, Exodus 20/5)
27. Going to the area of foreigners and demolishing their temples, idols and altars is permissible.(Exodus 34/13)
28. Slaughtering unarmed prisoners, burning them to death is permissible.
(2 Samuel 12/29-31)
29. Killing unjust plants and animals is permissible.(Matthew 21/19, Mark 11/13-14, 5/10-13, 1 Samuel 15/1-3).
30. Depriving a girl from the inheritance of property is permissible. (Numbers 28/7).
31.Taking wine is permissible. (John 2/1-10).
32. Killing anyone for denying Jesus is permissible. (Luke 19/28).
33. Threatening the infidels by saying that they would be uprooted like weeds,is permissible. (Matthew 15/13-14).
34. Depriving a girl child from the right of education / sending her to school is permissible.
(1 Corinthians 14/35)
35. Using bad language is permissible. (Matthew 18/23, 23/13-33)
Christians and Paajeets spamming out here in the comments without even watching the video 😂
poopjeets😂
Xtians🤝P0jeets ❤️
punjeet+john dickson= paganism united
Sar pleej sar you leev islam saar i can proof to u sar
The poojeets and I have major beef (I love me some steak)
And never will the Jews and the Christians approve of you until you follow their religion. Say, "Indeed, the guidance of Allāh is the [only] guidance." If you were to follow their desires after what has come to you of knowledge, you would have against Allāh no protector or helper. Quran 2:120
daniel pedotjou admitted that he believes there's nothing wrong in boning a four year old. So he follows flaming homosexual mupedohammad very well, *sunan abi dawud 2121*
Who is speaking there, can you tell? Is it one of the three al Lahs? Is it mupedohammad god? Or is it satan god, the most powerful god in islame?
@@AntiAtheismIsUnstoppable
Sahih al-Bukhari 106
‘The Prophet (ﷺ) said, "Do not tell a lie against me for whoever tells a lie against me (intentionally) then he will surely enter the Hell-fire."
@@Hoodinator17
Sahih al-Bukhari 106
“The Prophet (ﷺ) said, "Do not tell a lie against me for whoever tells a lie against me (intentionally) then he will surely enter the Hell-fire."
@@presmokan Are you saying that aisha, the mother of the believers from she was six, boned by mupedohammad when she was nine, is a liar?
Are you saying that albukhari is a liar *sahih albukhari 5134* ?
Sam keeps mentioning beliefs no muslim believes. Yet they cannot respond to what they actually believe.
Give 1 example?
@@smack09go watch the damn video. Mr give 1 example. Thanks for showcasing your foolishness about commenting on videos that you haven’t watched 😂
@@smack09 just even his opening statement, it's littered with several straw man beliefs like the 115 gods, god having physical hands etc. none of which any muslim believes as the whole quran contradicts these notions. I've barely started watching and it's crystal clear what type of person he is, creating his own arguments and attacking them. He's either a complete idiot or disingenuous
@@dariusdreams8480 I think he/she just asks a question, no need to reply with harsh words. If he/she has not yet watched the video, then we should tell them to watch the video with careful words. May God increase our patience and guide us to the straight path. Salam from Malaysia.
@@fahmiizz5430 You need to be polite only to those people who are academically sincere about learning Islam. These people in the comments came with sole purpose to trash Islam without even watching a video. You don't need to sympathize with them.
If God becoming a man doesn’t sound like a plot from Greek mythology, I don’t know what does 😂😂
Herkules and his worldly Mum and of course his Dad Zeus !
Roman Imperium people where Pagans that believed in Mithras Kult !
Sun worshiping !
That the reason why spreads to the world so fast ( with the sharpness of the sword 🗡️ ) much faster !
Nothing with Jesus Christ real teachings !!!
muhammad, the prophet with NO prophecies, his only miracle was was flying his donkey at night with only the donkey was the witness, totally rational
Exactly it's very similar but also similar to the Roman pagan religion especially Mithra
If a black stone and cube and a magical book doesn't sound like bullahjt your an idiot 😂😂😂
The differences is that trinity is a crucial part of christianity theology for nature of the divine one true god, the father the son and the holy spirit belong to one divine essence. Islam in another doesnt have any correct explaination for the uncreated thing beside allah, secondly the concept of god in islam is limited and definitely not all mighty and all powerful and omnipresent. In islam allah is in heaven alone he cannot reach out toward humanity and cannot appear physical or omnipresent, at the end of the day allah have to bend down to the lowest heaven, and allah need angels to write down your deeds for allah dont know your heart and allah also allowed satan to stay in your nostril that why muslim need to clean it
Sam basically took David woods Points from his debate with Mohammed Hijab in which he got destroyed Subhan Allah. They run from the Trinity and only speak about islam
He's whole intro of who he is was about Islam 😆
That's exactly what i thought
@@Charmed4eva1 Do you think, one reason why so many muslims leave islame and convert to Christianity, is because al Lah is not omni present and he suffers from sever hearing loss *Sahih Muslim 758b* ?
@@ahmedfathi981 Which of the many al Lahs enter into his own creation every third part of the night *sahih albukhafri 1145* ? Because it cannot be al Lah on the throne, since he cannot enter into his own creation and this Lah is limited to his chair. So which al Lah is it?
Ask Hijab does Allah pray to or pray for Muhammed 😂
Witness the destruction of Scam shampoo and Jay Liar in 4k
True common Daniel W
Daniel got 100% destroyed in this debate lol 🤡
Wdym "lost" are you one of these comment section raiders?@@Exor_.
@@Exor_.Christian morons who only cut the full live video into shorts to proof their point 🤡
Indeed
Christians got cooked. Sam & Jay Never tried to defend Christian contradictory theology
I think the argument the Christian side is making is that Surah Al Ikhlas doesn’t fully account for how the Quran speaks about God and to say it’s as simple as one surah is a total cope.
@@EricAlHarb so your contention is God should be as complex as possible when describing Himself so His limited creation with limited knowledge would understand Him? Lol
@@tachikoma7757 is your contention that God can be comprehended? Then why does Allah taala say in surah ash shura يَذۡرَؤُكُمۡ فِيهِۚ لَيۡسَ كَمِثۡلِهِۦ
@@EricAlHarb so you do know the meaning of None is alike to Him? 😁
@@tachikoma7757 which scholar or tafseer you want me to quote for the meaning ? Simple answer is, anything you think. He is not that. So you can never understand God, because whatever you understand, He is not that. I know Islam well as a murtad .
The only thing christians won in this debate is comment spamming without watching the debate itself
So, in the night of the jinn, cited in musnad of imam Ahmad, mupedohammads friend explains how mupedohammad was ridden like a bicycle by tall dark men allll niiight loong and in the morning he felt so much pain from what they rode on. But even more interesting for abdooools is, that while they rode him, he was reciting queer'an to them.
@@MilitantAntiAtheism
MThe Prophet (ﷺ) said, "Do not tell a lie against me, for whoever tells a lie against me (intentionally), then he will surely enter the Hell-fire."
@@presmokan Are you saying that your scholars are liars?
*sunan abi dawud 5224* flaming homosexual mupedohammad gets naked and lets another naked man kiss him belly down till cl!max
@@MilitantAntiAtheism When someone can read the rage in your comment, you are like a child that cant get his lollipop... go cry in the corner you sore loser.
@@MilitantAntiAtheism jinn isn't God 😂
Not surprising Sam believes every chapter of the Quran is a God, therefor 114 Gods, thats what polytheists like christian do, they see multiple Gods everywhere. No wonder he feels at home in christianity. lol.
😂😂😂😂
Ikr
Is queer'an un-created?
@@MilitantAntiAtheismBe respectful first the words in Quran is the knowledge of God (attribute) not a person just an attribute unlike a polytheistic trinity
bruh 😆
I'm a muslim, and I'm embarrassed of Sam's bizarre and weak arguments against Islam, i thought he would have at least a valid logical argument against islam. Lol. Alhamdulillah for islam.
No, al Lah is not omni present. If al Lah was omni present he would not need to decent from one point in space-time to another point in space-timre, because he would already be there *Sahih Muslim 758b*
@@MilitantAntiAtheism stop by Muslim Lantern youtube channel livestreams and have friendly fruitful discussions insya Allah. Allah's works/attributes aren't like that of ours. We know the definition of the words but we don't know the how when it comes to Allah.
@@MilitantAntiAtheism Lol. He's not at a point of space and time in the first place and the word descent in arabic in that contex have different meaning. If you search more, you'll learn he control time with his hand and he created both space and time. He can be at many places at the same time like he can talk to everyone at that same time at judgment day and give them judgment. But let me hold you accountable to your logic. the Father isn't omni present according to the bible because he asked moses to come to a certain place to see his back. Let's see. "here is a place near me where you may stand on a rock. When my glory passes by, I will put you in a cleft in the rock and cover you with my hand until I have passed by. Then I will remove my hand and you will see my back; but my face must not be see" So, your god met moses in a place in time-space.
@@kamo46 Why does al Lah need to descent, if al Lah is omni present *sahih albukhari 1145* ?
The fact that mupedohammad explicitly says that al Lah _descents_ means that al Lah cannot be omni present, because al Lah moves from point A to point B in space time, and that means, al Lah is a physical being taking of physical space, and that al Lah is only one place at a time in time-space.
@@MilitantAntiAtheism Allah, Exalted is He, is Present everywhere in terms of His knowledge, i.e., He knows all things, all that is happening, all that happened, all that would happen, if it could, how it would happen, everywhere.
Do yourself a solid and stop spewing ignorance. Insulting the prophet of God for doing what your prophets did is beyond ignorant.
Allah, Lord of all worlds, does not like the arrogant.
Finally the full version where Sam runs from proving and showing the trinity and running away at the end.
Good Job Shampoo 3 in 1
What are you talking about? Scroll all the way to the end at 3 hours and he's STILL THERE. This version isn't any different and shows no running. Keep up the lies and cope 🤡
Watch the video first bot 😂@@Exor_.
@@Exor_. lol I knew it that the side effect of BS trinity even decreases your English.
Running away doesn't mean standing up and actually Run.
Running away at the end where he receives multi points to refut but only chooses couple and ignores the rest until the time is over.
And whatever makes you feel better boy lol your Sam until this second couldn't prove or even dares to talk about the trinity, Daniel called him out on this and all what Sam did was saying "yes I'm going to hellfire"
😂
@@Exor_. This is what too much man worshipping does to someone's IQ
@@Exor_.ye the paint on the wall was still there too.. doesn’t mean it was any more relevant nor did it have any viable points 😂
With or without lies Christianity still dies
lmao cringey muslim, the real sentence is "Without lies the Islam dies"
Muslims always steal, nothing original.
Wait actually they did come up with one original phrase: "from the river to the sea, Palestine will be free" 😂 pathetic
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If you look at statistics, Christianity is the c*lt that's dead son. 😂
Go cry little Christian coper😔
Sammary:
-Daniel predicts exactly what scamo will do, never defends the incoherent trinity, and wishes tawheed is the same (jealousy).
-Jay added absolutely nothing and only named random logical falicies he memorized a day before 😂
What jay did is called Jay's Bingo card. Daniel showed it in the stream. Jay usually does that, randomly say this fallacy, that fallacy without understanding it so that he can look cool.
I love how Muslims point out where the other team lost or couldn’t explain the points and the Christian bots are like “heheh he got destroyed” when you ask them what did he get destroyed on? They don’t say anything
@@thefrenchempire14 christianity has no ground to stand on, thats why majority of the christians are now athiests. and those who dont have common sense are still christians
😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂
@@Hoodinator17 it’s one of those individuals 😢
Jay Dyer literally had nothing to add into the debate, he was just spitting out the types of fallacies he learned night before. Never seen a more useless co participant in a debate.
That’s a tu quoque 😂
He doesn't even understand argument and fallacy, he just randomly does it to look cool. It is called Jay's bingo card as Daniel showed on the screen.
He just talks with confidence like a hollywood actor to make himself look convincing.
hahaha Jay didn’t need didn’t to add anything. Sam was drilling Danielaaaaa and the Smurf next to him. What a embarrassment to Muslims and they still deny the facts.
Ok that's a bit misleading. He's debated his entire life
Sam makes nonsensical, irrational arguments, out of nowhere, that no one in the world had claimed or made, then proceeds to debunk his own gibberish, which he confusedly attributes to others. The level of dishonesty, and slithering evil is unbearable to watch. Had to skip him to survive the onslaught on my brain cells.
He's so damn annoying, constantly making his own straw man islamic arguments and attacking them. Couldn't defend his own religion at all, absolute joke. Completely carried by the muslim haters online
muslims delusional as always
@@backupacct2165 cope harder
you're a mindless sheep following whoever makes you feel better about yourself instead of using your brain. Pity
He's agreeing with the comment above so I think your comment is a mistake
Daniel breathes:
Sam : look you just proved Jesus is Allah
😂
Daniel claimed the god in the old testament was Jesus... When the Quran references verses from said old testament as Allah.
He literally did so..
Y'all are so stupid it's amazing
Lol 😂
Daniel pigachu repeatedly quoting Jesus as the God of the Old Testament and attesting the destruction God preceded in the old testament, Sam replied to him saying if this is bothering you, your Allah did the same in Quran and that means your Allah did and here Christ did therefore Christ is Allah... that's what he's whole point is and ofcourse Pagan stone lickers always has hard time understanding people's brain
Do you think, one reason why so many muslims leave islame and convert to Christianity, is because flaming homosexual mupedohammad claimed to be allah *sahih albukhari 7137* ?
Déja commence par essayez de definir ta trinité de croyance paienne, Abraham, Moise, David pbut ont toujours parler de l,unicité du Tout Puiissant n,ont jamais parler d,un sois disant fils mais dans la mythologie grecque y a bien zeus et son fils hercules mi homme mi dieu !!! Vous etes trop marrant vous prétendez mais sans aucun argument logique, sensé, valable que des suppositions ne s,appuyant sur rien du tout a part des croyances limitantes
They can't even explain the asinine Trinity concept
I think the argument the Christian side is making is that Surah Al Ikhlas doesn’t fully account for how the Quran speaks about God and to say it’s as simple as one surah is a total cope.
@@EricAlHarbif you want to spam go do it on fresh and fit comment section this comment section is for people who live outside the realm of delusion
(Part 1) To bring this to a very simple understanding. Google a prisim with light going through it.
This is what my metaphor will focus on.
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In a photo with a prison and light going through it. How many lights are there?
I ask many Muslims this and they say, there are 7 - 8 lights.
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My response:
It’s 1 light
Different colors
It’s one light and the prism (the triangle 📐) separates the multiple colors within the 1 light.
Imagine you were color blind and saw the same photo
It is just 1 light
I hope you know why I asked you this.
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1) 1 Element (Solid, Liquid, Gas)
2) 1 Atom (Quantum Superposition)
3) 1 light through a prism (📐)
Now combine them all into one.
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This is why Muslims think Christianity is a poly religion.
- They also think there are 8 lights in one light.
No it’s 1 light and different colors within the 1 light.
- They think 🧊 | 💧 | 💨 are three different entities / elements
No it’s 1 element in different states / forms
- They think an atom ⚛️ can only exist in one place at a time.
No atoms can and do exist and function in multiple places simultaneously (Quantum Superposition).
- They believe God is all powerful, all knowing, has no limits and the creator of all.
However, the Elements, the Atoms, the Light can all do what God himself can’t do.
Be 1
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Metaphorically speaking…
White light ⚪️💡 = The Father
Yellow light 🟡💡 = The Holy Spirit
Blue light 🔵💡 = The Son
The blue light is the son. The white light is the father.
The blue light is divided from source but still at the same exact time is source… but is already divided and limited.
The white light is undivided the pure source… the unlimited.
The blue light prays to the white light for more strength and guidance because it is the same light but in a limited… in a divided away from pure source state / form.
It is still just one light.
One is just higher in form than the other.
Many people ask how can God and Jesus be one and the same.
But one be the Father and one be The Son.
Well we can look at:
1 Element (Solid 🧊, Liquid💧, Gas 💨)
1 Atom ⚛️ (Quantum Superposition)
1 light through a prism (📐)
Now combine them all into one.
And then God is to infinity and beyond this.
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God is 1
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No partners. No helpers. None but God and God alone.
God | The Great, I Am | Allah | Yahweh
Only 1 God
No partners. No associates.
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Just as in the metaphor there is only 1 light. No secondary lights. No accent lights (partners).
In the metaphor there is only 1 light.
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I hope this makes sense for you.
Praise be to the most high. The highest. No other can compare. No other can compete. No other can fathom. How great God is.
1 God. No partners. No helpers. No associates.
Just 1 God.
Praise be to the most high.
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There God is.
Each realm that we exist in. He was already there before.
God is beyond and outside of any and all realms AND he is in each and every realm we exist within.
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We are in the Spirit / Soul Realm... and there is God. The Holy Spirit. God goes before us, is with us, and never leaves us.
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We are in the Space-Time, Atomic Matter Realm and there is God. Jesus. God goes before us, is with us, and never leaves us.
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Receipts 🧾:
"It is the LORD who
goes before you. He will be with you; he will not leave you or forsake you. Do not fear or be dismayed." - Deuteronomy 31:6-8
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God's promise that "I will never leave you nor forsake you" is found in multiple books of the Bible, in both the Old and New Testaments. With this promise, we can be assured that He is always with us.
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We have been made in the image and likeness of God.
Receipts 🧾:
"Then God said, "Let us make mankind in our image, in our likeness, so that they may rule over the fish in the sea and the birds in the sky, over the livestock and all the wild animals, and over all the creatures that move along the ground."
So God created mankind in his own image, in the image of God he created them; male and female he created them.
God blessed them and said to them, "Be fruitful and increase in number; fill the earth and subdue it. Rule over the fish in the sea and the birds in the sky and over every living creature that moves on the ground."- Genesis 1:26-28
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Allah is Big G. The Great I Am.
We are his children. little g's. little i ams.
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Receipts 🧾:
"[6] I have said, Ye are
gods; and all of you are children of the most High. [7] But ye shall die like men. and fall like one of the princes." - Psalms 82:6-7
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Receipts 🧾:
"Jesus replied, "It is
written in vour own Scriptures that God said to certain leaders of the people, 'I say, you are gods!" - John 10:34
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To deny the trinity is to deny our own duality. And to deny that God did not make us in his image. Did not make us in his likeness. That God does not always go before us. That God does not lead us. That God leaves and forsakes us.
(Deuteronomy 31:6-8)
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To deny the trinity is to deny Gods promise to us. To deny his goal in creation for us to be made in his image and likeness. To deny our very own duality state (body and soul/ spirit) and God's supreme
untouchable, unfathomable, nothing like him God's Trinity state. In any realm that we exist within... He goes before us, he is with us, and he will never leave nor forsake us. AND he is beyond us and beyond any form and beyond any realm.
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There is only one GOD. Big G. The Father | The Holy Spirit | The Son.
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The same light just in different realms like the prism. The prism acts metaphorically as a realm.
The white light acts metaphorically as The Father (Allah). The individual colors act metaphorically as The Son and The Holy Spirit.
This is just a metaphor as nothing can capture and describe fully how magnificent God is.
Praise be to God. Praise be to Yahweh | The Great, I Am | Allah.
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Praise be to Yahweh. Praise be to the Great I Am. Praise be to Allah. Praise be to God and his promise... each realm we are in there God is before us, with us, and to never leave nor forsake us, to lead and guide us.
How can it be, that abdooools will recognize pagan moon god Lah on his shin, and not on his three eyes and two right hands *sahih albukhari 4919* ? How many do you know who have three eyes and two right hands?
@@MilitantAntiAtheismcome debate u pagan
No Bots in this comment section
You guys destroyed these pagans
Kissing a stone is the perfect example of paganism
When the two Christian debators accused each other of having heretical beliefs 😂😂
That never happened
@@greplinkexplain of schism between orthodox and catholic
@@fazrieisa6654the schim between Catholics and orthodox happened because both want to lead the church under one leader; the pope in Rome and the great patriarch of Constantinople same happened with Islam with Sunni and Shia they split by power but the theological teachings are the same in Christian and Muslim world.
@@JoseOrtiz-xe6lk orthodox didn't united in one leader, instead they decentralized to their culture denomination like patriach of moscow
In their history both catholic/orthodox are blame heretical each others
@@JoseOrtiz-xe6lk i was gonna say like most christian explaining trinity is basically in modalism, tritheism, demism, etc
You didn't have unity between trinitarian believe
Christianity in a nutshell
God created Original Sin to remove it by creating Himself, to sacrifice Himself to Himself and paying Himself for Original sin to Himself
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Lol facts!😂
Sorry you got it wrong
God created original sin to remove it by creating himself to then impregnate his own mother to give birth to himself so that he can sacrifice himself to himself for sins to himself
“ Unbelievable God” - yes.. literally i “Cannot Believe “ in such a God - that’s why “ Unbelievable “
God sacrifice himself for him 😳
Allah deceived everyone into believing Jesus was crucified. This made a religion called Christianity where people believe Jesus was crucified, and now this allah sees that he made a mistake, something that he cannot stop.😅
Muslims: 1 + 1 + 1 = 3
Christians: 1 + 1 + 1 = 1
Islamists: I don't know how to place any sort of math equation on any situation 🤡
@@Exor_.Trinitirian when asked about where is holy spirit in John 10 : 30 - 👨🦯🏃👋
@@Exor_. Matthew 24 36
The holy spirit doesnt even exist
😂
1x1x1=1
@@SacredWarrior999 why stop at 3 , continue 😂
Where is the uncreated place that your trinity god always existed in ?
Ops you got yourself a 4th god
Congratulations 😂
Truth to The Christians is like Sunlight to The Vampire😂🤣
Well said 😂👌🏼
Internet is the second worst thing that happened to christianity.
The first worst thing was the illogical trinity😂😂😂😂
Internet is the second worst thing that happened to christianity.
The first worst thing was the illogical trinity😂😂😂😂
Mudslam is a fraud, but I like your pfp.
@@DentalPlangerbelieving in one God is more logical than 3Gods
Had been eagerly waiting.
Let's start. Bismillah
Trinity and internet are the worst things that happened to Christianity. LOL
Very true al hamdulillah
@@lyrickoner Do you think, one reason why so many muslims leave islame and convert to Christianity, is because Umar received divine revelation too from pagan moon god Lah and without mupedohammad knowing *sahih albukhari 402* so Umar is a prophet of Lah too ?
@@AntiAtheismIsUnstoppablerecite the hadith if you dare the enemy of Christianity is logic and context uamar said some ayat were abrogated just like the prophet said
@@killerbee6484 *sahih albukhari 402* Umar makes at least three queer'an verses, directly from Lah, and Lah fulfilling Umars speech, not mupedohammads. So, Umar is prefered prophet of Lah and Umar should therefore be in shahadada too.
@@AntiAtheismIsUnstoppable Seriously? 😂😂😂
First, let's clarify what "revelation" (Wahy) means in Islam. Revelation is the direct communication from Allah to His chosen prophets, delivering His divine message and guidance. This process is exclusive to prophets, and no one else receives divine revelation in the form of Wahy.
Now, regarding the incident you're referring to: Umar ibn Al-Khattab (RA) did suggest to the Prophet Muhammad (PBUH) to pray between the Kaaba and the Maqam of Ibrahim. This suggestion was later confirmed by a verse revealed by Allah in the Quran, Surah Al-Baqarah (2:125): *"And take, [O believers], from the standing place of Abraham a place of prayer."*
However, this does not mean that Umar (RA) received revelation. What it actually shows is that Umar’s thought aligned with divine wisdom, which Allah confirmed through revelation to His Prophet. There are times when a person might express a thought or idea that coincides with divine truth, but that does not mean they are receiving revelation. It simply means that the person’s thought is correct and Allah, in His wisdom, confirms it through His chosen messenger.
A similar situation occurred in the incident with the woman who came to the Prophet Muhammad (PBUH) to complain about her husband who had compared her to his mother, effectively divorcing her through the pre-Islamic practice of Zihar. The Prophet (PBUH) initially told her that the divorce stood, but she pleaded and prayed to Allah for a solution. Allah then revealed Surah Al-Mujadila (58:1-4) in response to her plea, which changed the ruling and provided a way for reconciliation.
In both cases, the individuals involved (Umar and the woman) expressed concerns or made suggestions that were later affirmed through divine revelation, but they did not receive the revelation themselves. The revelation was received exclusively by the Prophet Muhammad (PBUH), as he was the one chosen by Allah to deliver His message to humanity.
So, the claim that Umar (RA) received revelation is not only incorrect but also shows a misunderstanding of the nature of divine revelation in Islam. Umar’s suggestion was indeed wise, and Allah confirmed it through revelation, but this confirmation was given to the Prophet Muhammad (PBUH) as part of his mission to convey Allah’s guidance to the people. Just because someone's thought aligns with divine truth doesn’t make them a recipient of revelation; it simply means they have spoken the truth, which Allah, the All-Knowing, may affirm.
In conclusion, the idea that Umar received revelation is baseless. What happened was that his thought aligned with divine wisdom, and Allah confirmed it through the Prophet Muhammad (PBUH). This is the same way Allah responded to the woman’s plea, not by revealing to her directly, but by revealing a solution to His Prophet.
Lies stand no chance against the Truth.
May Allah swt guide those who are sincere.
They were like attacking Islam rather than defending Christianity 😂.
You can't really defend Christianity
because christianity is not a religion anymore
Pigachu literally spent his entire opening statement to attack christianity because his own god has 2 right hands and a shin 😂
@@cerebralassassin147your god is Human who , sweat scat like any human .If he is in front of you, you will worship his shi*
@@cerebralassassin147okay so how does it contradicts monotheism.... 😂
Tawheed doesn't make any sense. Because Allah has a foot.
Sam~
No surprise here. christians threw their religion under the bus and also threw logic under the bus.
Internet is the second worst thing that happened to christianity.
The first worst thing was the illogical trinity😂😂😂😂
No surprise here. christians threw their religion under the bus and also threw logic under the bus.
Internet is the second worst thing that happened to christianity.
The first worst thing was the illogical trinity😂😂😂😂
He is just a grammar nazi
He can't understand simple metaphors
yeah a foot up Sam's ass😮
This guy is fakt ap bro
He doznt inv nou wout hi iz yapping about 😅
Sam keeps hiring individuals on this show to pretend as ex Muslims and left Islam for Christianity 😂 he needs help honestly .
Lollll instead of them focusing their lives on the religion they love they spend their precious time trying to disapprove islam 😂😂😂 weirdos
There are so many Muslims who have left and become Christians, so there's no need to pretend. Get all Muslims countries to remove the de*th penalty for apostasy and critiquing Islam, and you'll see way, way more come out. When your religion threatens people with d*ath for leaving and they are still leaving in droves, you should start to rethink things. In the West, people have complete freedom to leave Christianity and preach Islam on the street corners, and there are still so few who join Islam and stay (many of the few who join leave within 3 years when they find out much of what they were told about Islam by the Muslim apologists is false).
So let me know when you start petitioning Muslim countries to allow people to actually choose what they believe is true.
Fr😂 damn sam is worse than i thought
He is a loser. Watch how he ran away from Uthman Bin Farooq debate, he became the ghost.
@@mohammadbuhamad7744how old was Aisha when moohammed the dog R’p’d her?
😂 wow. Br. Daniel actually predicted what scammo will do. He will never explain what the trinity is.
Daniel was dead weight, cope harder
Says the coper projecting. Lol.
lol says the guy posting the same comment on every comment. Derp
He literally has a bunch of videos in his channel regarding the explanation of Trinity
@@ultravegito4339 oh really? Which one? The one where he thinks car parts are actual car which leads him to be a heretic partialist? Lol
Sam clown never match muslim debate level. Lol
Are you refering to muhammad hijab: al Lah prays _for_ not to the prophet? Who then is al Lah praying _to_ when he prays for the prophet?
@@MilitantAntiAtheismsame old crab Muhammad hijab said God praise the prophet don’t you know basic English
What’s with these new Christian debaters? Their identity would be more accurately described as Islam-haters rather than being “Christian”.
The hostility, disrespect and mockery from this Sam guy is repulsive. Seems like a bigot.
🤣😂🤣😂🤣 Why so butthurt....
What do you expect from a wife beater.
@@mrstillhungryhe pointed out the obvious
Seems like it’s bothering you
@@avilsrael9141 Well, yhou're correct that pagan moon god Lah runs pdf file ring of handsome bacha bazi boys in jannah for the muslim men *surah 76:19* But... as several scholars have pointed out, that is okay, it is not homosexuality because they're not adult
@@MilitantAntiAtheism
‘The Prophet (ﷺ) said, "Do not tell a lie against me for whoever tells a lie against me (intentionally) then he will surely enter the Hell-fire."
لا يوجد مقارنة، الاسلام يتفوق بمراحل فهو دين الحق الالهي
Yep, al Lah is not omni present because he needs to DESCEND, move in physical space-time, so he is a physical being, limited by physical laws. And that is also one reason why al Lah is not all powerful.
Keep going Brother Daniel! Allahumma baarik!
sam shamoun got cooked 😂😂😂
Actually Daniel "the pedophile" Pikachu got cooked, but whatever denial makes you happy 😂😂
Let's all talk about how Daniel and ijaz destroyed them with reasonings and points ,we aren't like christains!
They both lost completely it's the end of Islam 🤡
@@Exor_. lol keep crying Sam.
3 in 1 shampoo 😂
@invaderopbr he's all over the comments trying his best to cope with this demolition of a debate 🥲
@@Exor_. Only 20dollar for the Church😂🤣
@@Exor_.Bro is crying under every comment section. Must be really hard for you seeing your goat loosing here.
Daniel you are a lion bro
Daniel LOST lol 🤡
@@Exor_.Kid watch full debete😂
@@nizamghanchi984 Keep on consoling your "looser boy"!
Trollist raging @@Exor_.
The fact that Christians like you spam ‘Islam lost’ in the comments here and on the stream instead of watching the debate and addressing the subjects discussed, says a lot about Christianism and how weak of a belief it is when confronted with facts.
Daniel predicted exactly how this debate would start. 😅 Watched the full debate yesterday..
the bingo was mad funny lmao
No Trinity defence from Team Christian?? What??
Mamamia itsa me Mario
Christianity exposed by the internet
Lie to yourselves😂
@@orthodoxia.occidentalisthis is what Christians do ! Your founder Paul’s lies are actually recorded in the Bible ! 😂
It's actually sad how badly confirmation bias affects Muslims 💀 I've never seen this with literally any other community lmfao only Muslims get smashed in every single debate and then start cheering thinking they won every time
@@orthodoxia.occidentalislive in your ignorance 😁 Sam never answered anything - child marriage in Christianity pre pubescent
@@Martysopinionnotyours yes we admit that .. we have no problems … consensual marriage .. girl over puberty and able to marry .. she has her right to say no .. but Thomas aquinos your church father .. pre pubescent marriage having intercourse 😁 deal with that , also Jesus pbuh he never gave no marriage age , if you want to follow Christianity u have to go to your church fathers and that’s Aquinos .. until 1900s everyone was following him - girls got married at 7 .. this was the norm !!! 😁 so are you saying your grandad was a paedophile now ? I’ll wait for your answer
I don't understand how shameless you can be to allow yourself to go into a serious debate and your arguments are all misinterpretations of the coran and hadiths like wut!?, no Muslim in 1400years ever heard or even considered shamshoun's interpretations as they are literal jokes, and throughout the whole 3 hours he didn't explain the trinity once always throwing misinterpretations to change the topic from it(if any christian see this and don't agree please explain your trinity down here if you can that is) you will see how nonsensical it is
'Shamshoun', nice 😂
He is indeed a joke😂
He is indeed a joke and the way he always said daniel lost bla bla bla to give himself confidence since he deep down knows he is nothing but a joke
JazakAllah'u khairan brother Daniel and brother Ijaz, may Allah reward you 🤲🏻
I'm still waiting to hear the christian defence for their beliefs, 'cause these two (sam/dryer) invented a new version of Islam and kept attacking it...
Our belief is the opposite of *sunan abi dawud 2121* flaming homosexual mupedohammad forced himself atop of baby aisha when she was nine and boned her
The trinity is a man made concept to try to say Jesus was divine. It's idolatry.
I think we can all agree. Sam got humiliated. It was beautiful to watch this disrespectful loser get it, Alhamdullilah. 😌
It was so easy, Daniel proceeded to troll them mid-away.
Alhamdulillah.
@@mehdid.1022 Only ones who agree is this ONE comment section where everyone blindly agrees with what Daniel says no matter what. 🤡
Lie to yourselves😂
@@-A-09Your Allah is not our Yahweh
@@orthodoxia.occidentalisand your Yahweh is not god of the OT and those before.
So many high ranking priests revert to Islam the past few years Alhamdollilah !!
I never watched Sam shamoun after watching one of his shorts when he explained trinity.
A Christian guy was asking for trinity clarification and Sam explained, "You have a car? Does it have body, engine & wheels? There you go 3 in 1, that's trinity!"
And me as a Muslim was thinking, just on the surface level of the argument, how does he solve the co-equal part? A wheel 🛞 spins, body of a car 🚗 doesn't.
He uses these cheap tricks against low iq easy targets who were probably payed to call to begin with because i really doubt a human with a brain can accept that analogy
3 wheels then stupid. It's God, it's not hard to understand exactly how it works is out of human comprehensions reach.
Christianity Isn't about 1 car with 3 parts.
Its about 3 different cars🤣🤣🤣
@@gamingaddict2944 what are u saying? is it hard or easy?
@@syedharis3235 fam.... Y'all believe Satan f's himself with his penis vagina legs an lays eggs.
It's not difficult to understand that God can do things humans can't.... Y'all purposely play dumb?
When you look at the comments on the fresh and fit channel, the christians make it seem like it was the biggest victory since the crusades. So much so that i genuinely felt nervous until i watched it and i have to say. It was such a waste of time. Sam was making it seem like he had the best arguments with such arrogance when in actual fact, his logic was so all over the place its amazing he knows how to put his cloths on in the morning.
One thing though, you guys should have called him out for sources and references because i feel like there was more of "take my word for it" on his part which could have easily been challenged and dismissed with a simple line of questioning.
finally, the version of the debate with no bots in the comments
@@Exor_. ooh I spoke so fast, there is one :)
Go first ask evidence of ur own bible which is not corrupted lol@Exor_.
@@Exor_.you're the typical deaf comment spammers "sAM cOoKeD 🤡"
Sushh, SacredWarrior will hear this 😂😂
If this is the best Christianity has to offer then no wonder so many in the West are leaving Christianity... every time Sam spoke he dodged the question of trinity but kept bringing up the topic "trinity vs tawhid" lol
You mean like... when mimi hijab said: Al Lah prays _for_ not to the prophet? Well, then who is al Lah praying _to_ when he prays for the prophet?
Daniel and Ijaz absolutely destroyed Sam and Jay with facts. MashALLAH brothers.
There were no facts presented and even other Muslims were saying they could have done better. Islam got 100% destroyed and there's nothing you can do about it. 🤡
I think the argument the Christian side is making is that Surah Al Ikhlas doesn’t fully account for how the Quran speaks about God and to say it’s as simple as one surah is a total cope.
@@EricAlHarbChristian side was just deliberately misinterpreting monotheism and putting words in others mind ! Which is ridiculous and childish and clearly shows they have no leg to stand on
@@VandalIO why do you run from scripture?
@@EricAlHarbwho run from scripture Sam and Jay didn't even explained trinity what just they were doing was trying to come up with Allah hand and etc etc
At the morality part of the debate, I always remember those videos from Sheikh Ahmed Deedat. He would always bring up the 10+ cases of incest in the Bible, and to those no Christian had an answer when they would debate him.
Leviticus 18:6 : "No one is to approach any close relative to have sexual relations. I am the Lord."
@@Metanoia7-J Yes, but at the same time there are over 10 cases of incest in the same Bible you quoted that from. For example, the Bible mentions that the 2 daughters of Prophet Lot (peace and blessings be upon him) intoxicated their father with alcohol and then took turns to sleep with him, so that they could get pregnant (Astaghfirullah). What is the logic behind this incest story?
@@Metanoia7-J What does the Bible accuse the daughters of Prophet Lot (peace be upon him) of? This is 1 example.
@@rickjames9039 Lot is not a prophet LoL.
Im Sorry but people in 2024 are too smart for christianity
Islam won this debate too
Too smart 🤣🤣🤣 honestly that made me laugh as a revert lol
Fresh and fit said Christian won lol. It’s crazy how you guys lie
"sam/dryer" seem more interested in "confronting" Ijaz and Daniel than defend their own religion LUL
Mamamia itsa me Mario
Brother you might want to censor the awrah towards the end of the video. Brilliant job as always btw, May Allah protects us all
al Lah cannot protect anything, because al Lah only knows about any event 12 hours after it happened. For example, al Lah failed to prevent Holy Tame Sheep from eating queer'an, and he failed to prevent flaming homosexual mupedohammad from making satanic verses into queer'an. al Lah is so sloow, that even his own creation, Adam, asked him to finish him before sunset. But al Lah also only have one leg and he has two right hands at the same time.
Notice how sam has to insult and demean to try to make a point which he doesnt have
Hes inshaAllah in the lower ranks of Hellfire, he acts like a true Shaytan
Ijaz: Even your Bible differentiates between its variations.
Jay: It doesn’t matter cuz we dont believe on texts 😂
Sam's yapping was such a pitiful excuse for an argument.
No surprise here. christians threw their religion under the bus and also threw logic under the bus.
Internet is the second worst thing that happened to christianity.
The first worst thing was the illogical trinity😂😂😂😂
No surprise here. christians threw their religion under the bus and also threw logic under the bus.
Internet is the second worst thing that happened to christianity.
The first worst thing was the illogical trinity😂😂😂😂
Debates were classy back in the day like the ones with Sheikh Ahmed Deedat vs pastors.
If there was an Olympic tournament for being a charlatan Sam would be the champion beating Christian Princess every single time.
Both are the same
This debate went really well. Was worried when I first saw the comments on the fresh and fit channel, before watching it. It went great though, clearly manipulated dishonest comments
Yeah, thats the tactic, to be manipulative, conniving and deceitful. They know, they stand no chance otherwise, and so they're conceding defeat in their own looney way. Daniel also mentioned that this is a z ionist tactic as well. How ironic for them.
They shared the debate link in their socials so their cheerleaders flooded the comments with their coping do the job they failed to do, any open minded person can see they made no point like even christians know we don't worship the hand or foot or a sourat as another god besides the one and only Allah.
Its their decieving way to try convince the non-biased party they won, which shows how desperate they are.
Thats the bot
1. In Christianity, Rape is permissible.(Deu.22/26-29)
2. Adultery is permissible. (2 Samuel 11/2-5)
3. Keeping sex-slaves is permissible.(1 Kings 11/3)
4. Slavery is permissible (1 Peter 2/18-19, Ephesians 6/5,1 Timothy 6/1-2, Exodus 21/21, Leviticus 25/44-48).
5. Sexual intercourse between father and daughter is permissible. (Genesis 19/30-36)
6. Infant sex is permissible, child marriage permissible . (Gen 22-26)
7. Marrying a divorced woman is equal to adultery (Matthew 5/32).
8. Beheading is permissible. (Numbers 31/9-18)
9. Selling one's own daughter as a slave is permissible. (Exodus 21/7-8)
10. Wife beating is permissible.(Deuteronomy 25/11-12)
11. Theft-robbery-snatching is permissible. (Deut 20/14)
12. Rape of step mother is permissible. (Genesis 35:22, 2 Samuel 16/22)
13. Sex with brother-in-law is permissible.(Genesis 36/6-19)
14. As much as one like,Polygamy is permissible.
(1 Kings 11/3).
15. Beating slaves is permissible. (Exodus 21/21, Luke 12/46-48).
16. Temporary / mut'ah marriage is permissible. (Deut 24/1-2)
17. Cursing innocent people is permissible. (Matthew 23/38)
18. Sex with daughter-in-law is permissible.(Gen 36)
19. Marrying step sisters is permissible. (Genesis 20/12).
20. Rape of step-sisters is permissible. (2 Samuel 13/ 11-14)
21. Carrying out genocide is permissible.(Deuteronomy 20/13-18, Hosea 13/16, Hebrews 11/32-34)
22. Creation of high and low inequality is permissible. (Matthew 15/23-27)
23. Walking naked is permissible.(Isaiah 20/2-6).
24. Calling infidels as dogs, donkeys, pigs etc is permissible.
(Matthew 15/26, 7/8; Genesis 17/12)
25. Calling the simple-hearted infidels by the name of food and drink and kill them by trickery is permissible. (1 Kings 17/40, 2 Kings 10/ 17-28)
26. Punishing the son for the fault of the father is permissible.
(Isaiah 14/21, Exodus 20/5)
27. Going to the area of foreigners and demolishing their temples, idols and altars is permissible.(Exodus 34/13)
28. Slaughtering unarmed prisoners, burning them to death is permissible.
(2 Samuel 12/29-31)
29. Killing unjust plants and animals is permissible.(Matthew 21/19, Mark 11/13-14, 5/10-13, 1 Samuel 15/1-3).
30. Depriving a girl from the inheritance of property is permissible. (Numbers 28/7).
31.Taking wine is permissible. (John 2/1-10).
32. Killing anyone for denying Jesus is permissible. (Luke 19/28).
33. Threatening the infidels by saying that they would be uprooted like weeds,is permissible. (Matthew 15/13-14).
34. Depriving a girl child from the right of education / sending her to school is permissible.
(1 Corinthians 14/35)
35. Using bad language is permissible. (Matthew 18/23, 23/13-33)
@moty - In Islam, you are permitted to lie.
So, it is understandable why you lie about the Bible by cherry picking verses and dismissing the context.
@@lifethroughromans8295
Show us where in Islam Muslims are allowed to lie except when they are threatened to be killed for their faith
However
In the bible you’re allowed to lie for faith and to make people Christians by lying to them
Romans 3:7
But if through my lie God's truth abounds to his glory, why am I still being condemned as a sinner?
@lifethroughromans8295 where's your proof? The brother gave u books with verses and chapters and such while u just make blank statements with no such evidence!
Yeah, most of the christians will reject these saying all of them are OT because they’re hypocrites.
Stop confusing us for Paul -
Corinthians 9:20-22
New International Version
20 To the Jews I became like a Jew, to win the Jews. To those under the law I became like one under the law (though I myself am not under the law), so as to win those under the law. 21 To those not having the law I became like one not having the law (though I am not free from God’s law but am under Christ’s law), so as to win those not having the law. 22 To the weak I became weak, to win the weak. I have become all things to all people so that by all possible means I might save some.@@lifethroughromans8295
The guys didn't even try to defend the trinity ( core of their religion)
Sam said attributes make it not one god but gods while he believe in human being with hands legs .
According to sam concept if god is merciful it is now two gods not one then !!!! understandable that their god needed to die to forgive them for sin they didn't do !!!.
Due to the Christians in the comments section of fresh Chanel I was unable to watch the debate over there they were so insulting they perfectly reflect Sam . They didn’t even touch on the trinity at all . Without Islam frankly i would become agnostic.
100% agree, same
Fun fact at 1:15:30 . Sam lied about references. 😂. Sahih bukhari 509 and 510 talks about prayer . Nothing about the Qur'an.
Thank you for uploading this on your channel bro, appreciate it. I'd much rather give you the views.
How can Jesus be God, when Numbers 23:19 says that God is not a man or a son of man? Mr. Shamoun, the case is finished and buried. 😢 😢
Sam running from trinity so fast like his wife to 7 INCHES plumer.
😂😂😂😂😂
Good one😂😂😂😂😂
No, as I told the other abdooool, al Lah is not omni present. And this is explained to abdooools by the flaming homosexual mupedohammad, *Sunan Abi Dawud 1315* so Lah needs to _descend_ in order to hear the muslims prayers, since he suffers from sever hearing loss, and he would not need to _descend_ if he was actually omni present, because he would already be at his destination. And since he is not omni present, he cannot be all powerful either.
@@MilitantAntiAtheism Habadashabadalujaaah!!!
And therefore god with his unholy trio PDF his mother and daughter mary 🤣🤣🤣
@@MilitantAntiAtheism Yes, for god to be all powerful he needs to be weak like your god is.🤣 For him to be all knowing he needs to be ignorant about the hour 🤣🤣 For him to be immortal he needs to be sacrificed. 🤣🤣🤣
How deluded do the Christians have to be to think they even came close to winning this debate? 😂😂😂
SUMMARY
00:00 - 3:15(intro)
3:15 - 4:53 ( frame of debate explained by Myron)
4:54 - 9:20 (introduction of Tawheed by Daniel)
9:21 - 14:30 (Team Christianity with no introduction of Trinity)
13:45 (Daniel shows Jay his Bingo card)
14:31 - 17:40 (Team Islam, Ijaz responded to Shamon's claim Quran as not Kalam and Restablished Tawheed)
17:41 - 19:07 (Daniel's speculation of Shamon tactic of debate is established & The hand of Allah doesn't disprove Oneness of Allah)
19:08 - 23:20 (Team Christianity again the claim of Allah's hand and Quran have mind but unable to dispute Tawheed)
23:20 - 25:25 (Brother Ijaz teaches Tawheed and establish Allah as first and the last contrast to Christianity where god have to become first and last)
25:26 - 26:36(Daniel prove intercession of Quran doesn't mean it have mind by Quran chapter 36:65)
26:37 - 27:40(Daniel bring god have hand in Christianity too)
27:41 - 32:21 (Still no words about Trinity from team Christianity but stick accusation of Quran's intercession and anthropomorphism of God)
32:22 - 34:32 (Ijaz presses Jay Dayer how Christian god is ignorant)
34:33 - 36:60 (Daniel expose Sam as Heretic according to Jay and Daniel bring Luke 19:40, Isaiah 55:12 to show stone even cry, mountain song and trees clap doesn't imply they have mind)
36:61 - 37:07 (Daniel explain problem of Trinity Jesus, father and holy spirit have seperate mind from each other)
37:08 - 37:40 (Ijaz point out Jesus status of begotten in scripture is changed)
37:41 - 42:28(Team Christianity gish gallop )
42:30 - (Starting of Open dialogue for Tawheed vs Trinity section)
43:45 - (Daniel explain Hand of Allah doesn't contradict Tawheed)
45:18 - (Jay accept Catholicism leads to heresy)
45:58 (Sam accept himself as Heretic and asked for Jay's prayer to save himself from hellfire)
46:56 (Daniel Explain personification of intercession doesn't imply seperate mind)
49:48 (Daniel establishes Father and Jesus have different mind and asked question how Father and Jesus can have same and different mind at the same time)
51:18 (Ijaz asked question why Jesus doesn't know the hour)
55:10 - 59:26(Team Christianity again started with no introduction but attacking on Prophet Muhammad(Sa) for Second section of debate "Criticism of preservation of scripture")
59:27 - 1:03:54 (Ijaz establishes that no scribe of Bible goes back to time of Jesus)
1:03:54 - 1:08:21 (Team Christianity try to respond and Sam's accusation of Prophet Muhammad(Sa) confirm Bible)
1:08:22 - 1:12:30 (Daniel establishes fact of Quranic manuscripts goes back to Prophet(Sa) time vs Canonization of Bible in 4th century)
1:12:30 - 1:16:37 (Team Christianity response, Sam's claim of Birmingham manuscript only contain few chapters and Sam's acceptance Bible were written at different time by different person contrast to Quran)
1:16:37 - 1:21:29 (Ijaz establishes there is consensus among early Muslim about Quran, mention multiple manuscripts of Quran and verification of manuscripts of Quran by stylometry)
1:21:30 - 1:21:54(Daniel refute to Sam's claim by mentioning multiple manuscripts of Quran together is the Quran we have today, not only Birmingham manuscript)
1:22:09 (Starting of Open dialogue for textual preservation)
1:22:45 (Daniel asked question about number of scholar consider old testament trace back to Moses vs Number of scholar consider Quran trace back to Muhammad(Sa))
1:24:38 (Sam's question about oldest Mushaf of Quran)
1:24:54 - 1:26:22(Daniel response to Sam's question and establishes scholarly material and book which verify Quranic manuscripts goes back to Prophet(Sa) vs Zero scholar think biblical manuscripts goes back to Jesus).
1:26:23 - 1:28:00 (Ijaz adds that Sam's belief about codex Sinaiticus belongs to trash)
1:28:00 - 1:29:27 (Jay accept Christianity is not book based religion, Christian do not believe on recording event when it is happening)
1:31:26 1:33:44 (Daniel refute Sam's claim whether Quran verifies early scripture Torah, Injeel).
1:33:45 - 1:36:27 ( Sam' s claim about Qira'at)
1:36:28 - 1:39:25(Ijaz response to Sam about genealogical study of manuscripts of Quran And presses Jay to on whether codex Sinaiticus belongs to trash)
1:40:25 (Third part of debate Morality in Islam vs Christianity)
1:41:24 - 1:42:49 : (Jay's claim of Islam as continuity and Personal Morality in bible)
1:42:50 - 1:46:24 ( Sam's false dichotomy of Prophet have to live up to biblical standard or he is false prophet)
1:46:25 - 1:51:50 (Daniel's introduction on morality in Islam vs Christianity, Pro genocide Jesus, selling daughter to slavery in Christianity, Age of marriage in Christianity according to church tradition, Mary betrothed to Joseph at age 12)
1:51:51 - 1:57:35 ( Jay's claim of biblical morality as ritual purification as a defense, Sam's peculiar claim of Jesus is Allah, Sam's attack on Prophet).
1:56:58 - Brother Daniel shows Mario(Plumber) to Sam in response to Sam's attack on Prophet Muhammad(Sa)
1:57:13 - Myron plays MAMA MIA from Mario
1:57:37 - 1:59:55 (Daniel debunked Christian morality of minor marriage, concubinage)
1:59:55 - 2:00:46 (Ijaz add Mathew 23, violence against wife in Christianity, Pharisees liking young girl)
2:00:47 - 2:03:50 (Daniel mention plumber as response to Sam's attack on Prophet, Daniel presses Jay on war practices (not ritual purification), Minor marriage according Christian Canon law, Ijaz presses Sam on violence against women and Minor marriage)
2:03:51 - 2:09:51 (Jay stick to continuity argument without substantiating, Sam asking Daniel complete quotation of Thomas Aquinas regarding Minor marriage, Sam's false equivalence of Noah's flood and biblical commandment of genocide)
2:09:52 - 2:18:58 (Superchat discussion)
2:18:59 - 2:20:48 (Daniel reads the quotation of Thomas Aquinas as response to Sam and ask Jay whether he condemn minor marriage or not)
2:20:48 - 2:22:38 (Jay reject Thomas Aquinas, asks Daniel about purpose of ritual purity)
2:22:39 - 2:25:02 (Daniel refute Jay's claim ritual purification in Islam is continuity from previous religion)
2:25:03 - 2:26:01 (Daniel presses Jay whether he condemn Thomas Aquinas position or not)
2:26:02 - 2:26:34 (Daniel asks Sam whether he condemn biblical morality which is commanded by Jesus as god)
2:26:35 - 2:30:09 (Sam's claim of God set theocracy by appearing, Jay stick to his refuted argument of continuity, Sam again brings Noah's flood to compare genocidal commandment of bible)
2:30:09 - 2:33:56 (Daniel and Ijaz establishes forbidden of killing women, children, destroying of property according Quran and Hadith, Daniel establishes Jews after Sinai were still abiding Mosaic law even without Miracles of pillar of cloud as a sign of theocracy, Daniel read Gracian quotation about minor marriage and ask whether Jay condemn it as Pedophilia)
2:33:57 - 2:39:20( Sam failed establish argument of theocracy, Superchat question by Myron, Daniel explain having multiple attributes doesn't contradict Tawheed)
2:39:22 (Daniel bring nature of gods in Trinity is different with different mind, will and knowledge)
2:45:30 (Jay again got Bingo card from Daniel)
2:46:36 - 2:48:57 (Daniel differentiate between Bible and Quran to establish Noah's flood is not equivalent to Jesus commanding soldier of Moses for genocide)
2:50:02 - 2:52:23 (Daniel and Ijaz caught Sam on lying on Hadith and make him read Hadith, but no where murder or rape is found in that Hadith).
2:52:24 - 2:54:12 (Sam lie on Quran)
2:54:13 - 2:54:49(Daniel and Ijaz caught Sam again on his lie and shows no verse of Quran condone rape or murder as contrast to Bible)
2:54:49 - 2:59:47(Sam goes for babbling, Daniel explain murdering, raping and pillaging is not found in Quran and Sunnah as contrast to Bible, Superchat question about minor marriage answered by Daniel)
2:59:48 (Final words from Myron)
Thank you so much I appreciate you thank you 🙏🙏 thank you
الآية 17 من سورة surah Al-Maidah
﴿لَّقَدْ كَفَرَ الَّذِينَ قَالُوا إِنَّ اللَّهَ هُوَ الْمَسِيحُ ابْنُ مَرْيَمَ ۚ قُلْ فَمَن يَمْلِكُ مِنَ اللَّهِ شَيْئًا إِنْ أَرَادَ أَن يُهْلِكَ الْمَسِيحَ ابْنَ مَرْيَمَ وَأُمَّهُ وَمَن فِي الْأَرْضِ جَمِيعًا ۗ وَلِلَّهِ مُلْكُ السَّمَاوَاتِ وَالْأَرْضِ وَمَا بَيْنَهُمَا ۚ يَخْلُقُ مَا يَشَاءُ ۚ وَاللَّهُ عَلَىٰ كُلِّ شَيْءٍ قَدِيرٌ﴾
[ المائدة: 17]
Sahih International - صحيح انترناشونال
They have certainly disbelieved who say that Allah is Christ, the son of Mary. Say, "Then who could prevent Allah at all if He had intended to destroy Christ, the son of Mary, or his mother or everyone on the earth?" And to Allah belongs the dominion of the heavens and the earth and whatever is between them. He creates what He wills, and Allah is over all things competent.
The point at issue is what Muslims and Christians WORSHIP. Muslims don't worship hands, nor anything else other than Allah (swt). Christians worship Jesus, The Father and The Holy Spirit which are three beings. They're polytheists, we're monotheists. Their argument made absolutely no sense. Even if our limbs on the Day of Resurrection spoke or had a mind of their own, it is in no way related to the context of the debate. The issue at hand is what we WORSHIP.
Exactly 😂 that guy doesn't know what he is talking about
You don't worship the hands and feet but you believe they're eternal with Allah. So you believe in multiple eternal beings
@@starship9629 what are you on about are you stupid seriously 🤣🤣. The trinity is seen as completely separate beings this is not
@@starship9629Christian logic😂😂😂
@@starship9629 Yes, oh kafir, cause they're part of Allah, Allah says He hears, and we know that to hear you must have ears, and what Allah has for hearing we don't know, and He has for hearing whatever befits His majesty and the thing He has for hearing it's eternal with him..!
The Trinity it’s just pagan math that never adds up!
At that time scam shampoo carrier over 😂🤣
Watching Sam and Jay contradict each other was hilarious! 😂
We Love You Brother Daniel Sir! 💙🕋❤️
Just look at Scams facial circus. That baldy is not capable to hold himself together just like he cant form reasonable arguments. Well done brothers.
Does al Lah have a face?
@@MilitantAntiAtheism 😂😂😂 Al means The and La means No! Allah is unlike his creation! And you're pulling the same stunt that Sam is. If Allah has a face It in no way affects or changes the Oneness of God / Tawheed!
@@christopherwells3426 al means god and Lah is the name of the god. And al Lah does have a face. And he has eyes (multiple), hands (two right hands), five fingers, one leg, a shin and a foot. But... al Lah does not have a spirit. So, al Lah is dead. It is a statue.
@MilitantAntiAtheism, where in the Quran does it say that Allah has a face or a leg
The third topic was an overkill,
Good job brother Daniel. Sam dodged that with " you admitted Jesus is Allah" excuse and talking about jay, he didn't point out any necessary rebuttals and made excuse that Daniel is admitting that Quran has the continuity of old testament's sayings , which was a strawman, because Daniel literally said over time that this bible verse says that which Quran condemns this bible verse is even rough than the Quran, unlike the bible the Quran doesn't say that etc etc. it was big dishonesty from jay
Daniel and ijaz won the second and third topic of preservation and morals they didn't do good in the trinity vs twhid topic
sam was trying to prove that the Quran is not preserved from Islamic sources and a false dilemma 😂 and they didn't defend killing kids in the old testament
The debate was about Trinity and Tawhid but Christians didn't even explain it 😅
No surprise here. christians threw their religion under the bus and also threw logic under the bus.
Internet is the second worst thing that happened to christianity.
The first worst thing was the illogical trinity😂😂😂😂
No surprise here. christians threw their religion under the bus and also threw logic under the bus.
Internet is the second worst thing that happened to christianity.
The first worst thing was the illogical trinity😂😂😂😂
H20 can be Liquid, Gas and Solid. They are all distinct but still H20.. not that complicated genius. Jesus is God
Because we don't have to, only you guys don't understand trinity for 14 centuries. It's funnier to mock you stupid faith.
At one part, Sam said he's going to 'corner em'. In the end, all I can see is him turning off camera, insulting everyone left and right, and gesturing unnecessarily many times. Seems like Sam got cornered instead.
Daniel starts is the win
جزاكم الله خير اخ دانيال و اخ إيجاز
The Jews are sitting In the back eating popcorn:
You mean hiding. Notice no Jew comes on public platforms like this? They already know their religion won’t hold up, but Christians are delusional
The Jews disbelieved in the prophet Jesus and killed other prophets. They have nothing to do with what God wants people to do.
Hahahahaha 😂😂😂😂
No they’re are not
They are murdering women and children
And doing genocide...
Oh my God, Christianity will soon fade if these are its protectors! Sam and Jay were literally embarrassing!
They should make mental gymnastics an olympic sport, christians especially sam shamoun would win gold every year
when sam turns his camera back on you can see the shaitan in him visibly annoyed. 2:57:25
Maybe thats why he turned the camera off, good catch!
He probably turned it off because he was boiling from insidr and raging that he didn't want anyone to see him desperate like that.
LMAO you guys are so freaking miserably stupid.. Not a surprize Islam left such horrible fruit throughout history, and horrible countries under despotic laws.
Non c'était la fin du débat et il fait des grimaces comme à chaque fois.
@@audreychose7469 hahaha nice justification. That's the face of defeat in this life and a bigger defeat in the next
What i see from the debate.
Muslim : talk about islam and christian.
Christian : talk about islam.
Sam so emotional towards daniel, targeting him personally. Didn't even try to answer the question but expect muslim team to answer him.
im ex muslim and still muslim 😅
How?
Stay Muslim inshAllah
It's nuts out there 😅
Are you dreaming of handsome very young boys in jannah *surah 76:19* ? Don't worry, because as the scholars say, since they're not adult then it is not homosexuality
@@MilitantAntiAtheism yes young men , as servents not husbands😂,do u want old ugly people serving u?
And if u ask where does it say serve check out verse 17-18 in chapter 56:
There will circulate among them young boys made eternal (17) With vessels, pitchers and a cup [of wine] from a flowing spring (18)
Keep trying
Well, this was a joke performance by Jay. I mean he must've hurt his back carrying the debate.
No surprise here. christians threw their religion under the bus and also threw logic under the bus.
Internet is the second worst thing that happened to christianity.
The first worst thing was the illogical trinity😂😂😂😂
No surprise here. christians threw their religion under the bus and also threw logic under the bus.
Internet is the second worst thing that happened to christianity.
The first worst thing was the illogical trinity😂😂😂😂
No surprise here. christians threw their religion under the bus and also threw logic under the bus.
Internet is the second worst thing that happened to christianity.
The first worst thing was the illogical trinity😂😂😂😂
❤ No surprise here. christians threw their religion under the bus and also threw logic under the bus.
Internet is the second worst thing that happened to christianity.
The first worst thing was the illogical trinity😂😂😂😂🎉🎉🎉🎉🎉🎉🎉
Easy W for team Islam
I'm shocked...honestly.
Somehow I didn't hear about this debate until I saw snips of it on TikTok and for some reason from Christian accounts. The snips and comments were just young Christians celebrating their "win" and propping up Sam.
I went to watch the debate to see if Ejaz and Daniel somehow fumbled, they're human after all, but it's so clear that the Christians literally COULD NOT defend their beliefs without using a childish, incoherent and incorrect argument of Islam validating the books that came before.
Daniel, I'm about seriously suggest the following because I've watched so many of yours and many other brothers debate and despite you guys clearly winning, I think we need to dumb down the argument/explanations we provide (especially up front). Not only for the opponent but more so for the general non-muslim, young audience that ends up watching these. If we had clearly addressed the fact that Islam doesn't validate THE CURRENT Bible/Torah and dealt with that it would've directed the debate better and helped the non-muslim audience understand how dumb these guys truly sound.
You can debate them if you are advising our brothers . They did a pretty good awesome job . All the matters were addressed clearly, I had no confusion. Maybe you missed the pulse brother .
@@arhan9481 lmao I understood it, but clearly you can't read English properly
Alhamdulillah🌹 Daniel brother Jazak Allah🌹
Watching here to support the channel
I havn't been through a silent destroyer like Daniel after Mohammed from Muslim Lantern
Masha ALLAH brother Daniel ❤, this debate was very interesting and I'm very happy to see your intelligence and calmness throughout the debate, it was amazing like how you were rebutting their arguments ❤, special thanks to brother Ijaz as well, Jazaak ALLAH Ikhwaan ❤
Who the heck worships Quran? 🤷♂️ what are they talking about?! 😂
You missed his absolute point. The same trauma the pigslims throwing on Christians regarding Trinity, Sam making a point where Quran appears as a man and he will intercede between you and Allah by speaking to Allah now if Allah and Qur'an are different then you have a huge problem since Qur'an is the word of Allah but if Allah is using Qur'an to talk to himself he is a medalist a condemned pagan heresy and schizophrenic
😂does anyone notice dyer debunked scammo verbal diarhea and his own xtianity? "No one ever said that the attributes are different persons" so why the heck did scam brought it out like an i-diot?
„Love you‘re enemy“ but as christians they do the opposite😂