Q&A - An Introduction to Paranormal Psychology - with Chris French

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  • Are there any paranormal phenomena supported by evidence? Have you ever found anything during experiments you couldn’t explain? Chris French answers questions from the audience following his talk on anomalistic psychology.
    Watch the talk here: • An Introduction to Par...
    Ever since records began, in every known society, a substantial proportion of the population has reported unusual experiences many of which we would today label as ‘paranormal’. Opinion polls
    show that the majority of the general public accepts that paranormal phenomena do occur. Such widespread experience of and belief in the paranormal can only mean one of two things. Either the paranormal is real, in which case this should be accepted by the wider scientific community which currently rejects such claims; or else belief in and experience of ostensibly paranormal phenomena can be fully explained in terms of psychological factors. Chris French provides an introduction to the sub-discipline of anomalistic psychology, which may be defined as the study of extraordinary phenomena of behaviour and experience, in an attempt to provide non-paranormal
    explanations in terms of known psychological and physical factors.
    Chris French is Professor of Psychology at Goldsmiths, University of London. His research focusses on the psychology of paranormal belief and ostensibly paranormal experiences, the belief in conspiracy theories and false memories.
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  • @UnleashTheGreen
    @UnleashTheGreen 5 років тому +27

    only less than 20% of the views of the lecture converted to views of this Q&A video. i thought the lecture was worth the follow up.

    • @benjaminstidham5502
      @benjaminstidham5502 4 роки тому

      I followed up as well. I think him not being skeptical of the " Barra" child documentary gives a lot of credence to it's validity.

    • @iandoyle5017
      @iandoyle5017 4 роки тому

      @@benjaminstidham5502 you would

    • @Chloeyboey217
      @Chloeyboey217 3 роки тому

      Me too!

  • @rootytuners
    @rootytuners 8 років тому +31

    The Twin Towers anecdote was interesting, but it's worth noting that the World Trade Towers had been bombed previously in 1993, and it was a well discussed fear that they might be bombed again with more devastating results in the future.

    • @chrisofnottingham
      @chrisofnottingham 8 років тому +3

      Also worth noting that if he made predictions 5 years earlier and 2 months earlier, that implies over 1800 predictions at one per day, so not especially surprising if some came true.

    • @MrPicoli
      @MrPicoli 7 років тому

      do you know of picures we can see about this anecdote?

    • @i_smoke_ghosts
      @i_smoke_ghosts 7 років тому

      rooty÷ yes thats right rootytunes

    • @uK8cvPAq
      @uK8cvPAq 6 років тому

      What if the terrorists saw that picture too?

    • @uK8cvPAq
      @uK8cvPAq 6 років тому +2

      Get lost you lunatic, this is a channel for science and not make believe.

  • @cortster12
    @cortster12 8 років тому +18

    4:00 That was a great example, actually. Paranormal, by definition, doesn't exist once you learn what it is, as then it just becomes natural. Makes it tricky to study paranormal claims, then.

    • @RFC3514
      @RFC3514 4 роки тому +3

      Paranormal is not the same as supernatural.

    • @iandoyle5017
      @iandoyle5017 4 роки тому

      Shush the adults are talking.

    • @WSmith_1984
      @WSmith_1984 5 місяців тому

      @cortster12
      From my experience/experimentation, I believe psyche delics/mediation/sound frequencies break down the barrier between our conscious and subconscious mind, allowing our conscious mind to experience our sub conscious thoughts, feelings and memories..... however I also believe, in our subconscious mind we can access the universal consciousness......
      One of my first truly breakthrough experiences, during my own experimentation was this..... the words/feeling/communication I was experiencing, felt as if they were coming from someone/something/somewhere else....
      """"" Hey we've been waiting for you... don't be scared...... don't be scared....... your family is here with us..... you don't really know him well, but he's family, he's family...... it's (then proceeded to tell me a name) he's safe, he's here with us, he's your family don't worry, he's with us""""
      3 days later I was with my mum and we were talking about our family and I was asking if any of my older family members had caught or been effected by c v..... at first she said no.... then after a short pause she said her cousin..... with the same name I had heard/felt/experienced 3 days before had been in a coma for 4 days with pneumonia and died the day after my experience......... I was gobsmacked and instantly began to feel an incredible sadness this was one of the most profound experiences of my life......... I had only ever met the man a few times and never really seen him or his family in my day to day life or on social media as I only use this......... there had been no mention from anyone or way of me knowing about his predicament in the weeks prior.
      I was a hard-core atheist before this....... now I have a new found sense of........ enlightenment amazement, fascination and desire to discover the world to which is there but we cannot see or experience, not in our normal state anyway. This isn't the only experience I've had like this, I've had a few of a similar nature and other "mystical" type experiences...
      Peace, power and freedom to all the psychonauts out there....

  • @mattsains
    @mattsains 8 років тому +12

    I appreciated his cautious scepticism

  • @GKMcWhite
    @GKMcWhite 8 років тому +12

    Google gives me ads for a "clairvoyant" who wants to tell me the future on this video.

  • @sunnysim3583
    @sunnysim3583 6 років тому

    I would love to hear what he has to say about Clairaudience (which I have experienced), and minds eye images...
    I have never heard him cover topics that are objective. He does tend to only talk about the psychics, dowsing etc...

    • @w8m4n
      @w8m4n 5 років тому +1

      Would you care to share your experience(s)?

    • @iandoyle5017
      @iandoyle5017 4 роки тому +2

      claire who?

  • @k.s.l.achyuthkumar1899
    @k.s.l.achyuthkumar1899 5 років тому +3

    hi sir,
    once visit Bhangarh, Rajasthan, India.
    And prove that there is no ghost in that fort.
    its an challenge to prove ghost doesn't exists

    • @Electronicmedium1111
      @Electronicmedium1111 4 роки тому

      True. It’s also a challenge to prove that they do. Hello from Arizona, USA ❤️

  • @EJConrad
    @EJConrad 8 років тому +3

    Sweet audience

  • @joycekoch5746
    @joycekoch5746 4 роки тому +3

    I sure wish I had Chris French's take on this:
    My family went through extreme poltergeist activity back in the 70's
    when we were living at 1723 Downing Street in Greensboro North Carolina.
    Our family was close and affectionate and was made up of my husband, myself, our
    son and daughter and our beloved family dog.
    The house in question was built in 1965 and we
    were the first family there but indeed, it was built over what had been a
    lake and there were underground springs and creeks all around us with
    moving water. I mention that as It is my understanding that this is commonly reported in
    many poltergeist cases. When I first moved in my kids were like 5 and 1
    years old and I did have a few odd experiences like smelling perfume in
    the house that was odd smelling that nobody wore. There were also
    feelings of having something rapidly coming up behind one and feeling
    not so much as evil but high weirdness of something very old and
    completely non-human. The feeling of feeling one was being watched was a
    common experience. Not far away behind our house was a graveyard but we
    dismissed the idea of ghosts as not much happened for several years
    till my daughter and son grew up. Before the real explosion of
    poltergeist activity the woods behind our house and leading to the
    graveyard was a place my son and many of the kids enjoyed playing at. At
    the time, it was not seen odd as none of us thought in anyway that a
    graveyard could be a concern. When my daughter was about 16 and my son
    was about 12 we had a the first big amounts l of poltergeist activity in
    our home for several months. It started first with my daughter who had a
    seance with her friends for her 16 birthday. Soon after that she had
    objects fly off her walls and she would find at times at night having
    weird experiences like waking to find her hand being held by a small
    withered hand or hearing a loud bang on the wall. I experienced the most terrifying
    experience of being awakened at about 2am to my foot being shaken - I could feet the hands around my ankle
    and I remembered yelling out 'Jesus save me' and about two seconds later my husband sleeping beside
    me awoke as well. The light was flicked on and the room was empty. I was 100% sure
    I was not dreaming.
    The seance my daughter and her friends did was
    something she and her friends did on their own as a joke - it was not
    something that was routine or approved of in our home but soon after
    this the weirdness was manifest. Strong gust of wind would sometimes
    come from nowhere and blow through the house.
    Though experiences could happen anytime of day, I would say 90% of the
    time the activity happened at night from between Midnight and 3am. If I
    were to venture a guess, the entry point or portal was located in a
    closet space shared by my son's and sisters room as the doors of the
    closet would sometimes open on their own during manifestations in our
    home. It got to the point that my son would tie a belt around his closet
    door handles before going to bed at night - of course this didn't stop
    the trouble but it made him feel better that the closet door remained
    closed at night.
    The sound of heavy objects falling and breaking glass occurred in other
    rooms but when observed nothing was to be seen.However, the focus
    shifted from her very quickly to completely focus on my 12 year old son.
    It is hard to describe all the evens from slamming doors, sheets being
    yanked off beds, shaking beds , flickering lights and all of us being
    awakened at night by having a hand shake one awake or messing with ones
    feet or bed coverings. Even stranger was the experience my son had was
    after being awakened by a shaking bed he sat up and flicked on the light
    and then felt something invisible, big and heavy bound into the bed next
    to him that knocked him over and then was just as quickly gone. That incident was the one my son
    reported as most freaking him out was that experience. He described it like being on the bed and imagining if a huge obese invisible man
    were to jump into bed with you and then vanish - all happening in about 3 seconds.
    We were not alone in all of this -The family dog was pretty freaked out when
    this would happen and he would bark and growl at unseen presences but
    usually acted very afraid and was eager to be outside the house than
    inside it. Most of the poltergeist activities it seemed to happen during
    my sons REM sleep when his bed would shake so we think his unconscious
    was letting lose. Of course, many, perhaps half of the activity was not
    the 1am to 3am variety but would happen in the middle of the day as
    well. When the bed shaking occurred my husband and I would get up and go
    into his bedroom and see him asleep with the bed go back and forth. At
    first my husband and I took it to be completely demonic opened up by the
    silly teenage seance my daughter had engaged in but the psychological
    aspects could not be missed as well. My son was hyperactive and on
    Ritalin.The Ritalin helped him focus like a stimulate but it had a side
    effect of stunted growth to the degree he was behind normal physical
    growth and development by a full year. We thought perhaps the Ritalin
    might had been affecting his CNS but it appeared it was the bed moving
    him - not the other way around. In short, there was probably something
    in that house from the time we moved in but our son was clearly the
    battery that caused things to go crazy when he became of age.
    We had a Catholic priest come bless the home, this did work
    but it only knocked off the activity for about 10 days before it started
    up again. The priest was very enlightened and told us that though demons do
    sometimes wreck homes what we had was likely a poltergeist which is basically a demon 3rd class
    on assignment for a short trial period and could steal energy from anything from a fight in a home
    or pent up libido. The priest asked each of us if we had done anything like play with Tarot cards,
    used a Ouija Board, drug use, seances or any serious moral violations. I mentioned the seance
    my daughter and her friends had done and my son's horror comic collection. The priest nodded and smiled
    at my son and told him throw them in the trash which he did somewhat reluctantly. He advised my daughter no more
    seances and for all of us all to relax more, laugh more and pray more
    and make the 'the house light'. He told us poltergeist are affected by blessing but unless
    they are done weekly they will keep coming back so the best solutions lay with our family
    as he didn't have time to come by each week to bless the home.
    One funny bit of symbolism that I did not catch to many
    months later was the poltergeist at the first part of it's manifestation
    did so while we were eating dinner. We were all around the table and
    talking and laughing and my son had a tall glass of milk in front of him
    in a tall glass and it suddenly exploded. Nobody was hurt by the glass
    but the milk went straight up in a crazy manner all over the ceiling
    till it rained down on all of us. The symbolism of this pent up energy
    is kind of clear. It might be the case that the Ritalin that had stunted his growth
    might have built up huge levels of energy as my son told me years later he
    didn't get his first wet dream till he was 14 which bothered him as all his friends had gotten them
    by 13 years old . My husband had told him not to worry about it
    and nature had it's own time for him. Of course there is a problem with that theory as well as the poltergeist activity largely
    ended a full year or more before that so that one explanation is not complete.
    It is fascinating that strong emotions and libido can
    provide such huge stores of energy for poltergeist to pull from and one
    one learns to unplug them from their source they cannot manifest without
    a power source to tap. The key to killing the poltergeist was creating a
    happy relaxed home. After about 6 months it was pretty much over with.
    It was the most amazing and terrifying 6 months of our lives and a eye -
    opening awakening to the world of the paranormal. After all the years
    of thinking of this I can only conclude we had every thing and multiple
    causes to create a perfect poltergeist environment. Though it was not
    fun to go through, it was very interesting and to a degree, deepened all
    of our faith as we did conclude we were not dealing with PK but with
    intelligent beings with a twisted sense of humor. This became clear when
    the poltergeist in our home seemed to take a great deal of dislike for a
    blessed crucifix we kept in the hall and a picture of Jesus. These were
    often turned upside down or found laying on the floor knocked off which
    suggest this being had a strong dislike for these items.
    I am open to various ideas
    to explain what happened here.
    I would love this audience take on the poltergeist experience.
    Hope this has been of interest.

  • @davidwilkie9551
    @davidwilkie9551 6 років тому +2

    If brains were replicated by computers, then the amount of data stored using current technology would be unmanageable, because it's already the situation that consciousness is a tiny aspect of awareness, and the consequence is that there's some poor communication between what you see, believe, and remember clearly.
    "Paranormal" experiences are indistinct, and so are memories or conclusions jumped to on the basis of suspicions. Everything is connected probabalisticly.
    Earlier studies recognized the effects of "blind sight" and synesthesia, just to show more underlying complications that come about from a single line of study. Ie the "man with a hammer" expects to see nails and there's one programmed reaction to any situation, and no one is exempt from previously formed explanations. The Psychologist pointed that out of course.

    • @iandoyle5017
      @iandoyle5017 4 роки тому +2

      consciousness is a tiny aspect of awareness? take a deep breath and get a grip, then peruse your other sweeping statements.

    • @KumarPawar4
      @KumarPawar4 2 роки тому

      @@iandoyle5017 Deepak Chopra syndrome

  • @killcam6584
    @killcam6584 4 роки тому +2

    I met a meduim one time on accident long story short she came inside my house And asked to do a reading and she said A woman named Sharon comes by to check on you Sharon was my aunt that passed months prior to the meeting she knew nothing about my aunt at all since then I don’t question that realm

    • @iandoyle5017
      @iandoyle5017 4 роки тому +1

      what did she read the electric meter? and what realm are you on about? Narnia? Atlantis? Disneyland?

  • @WSmith_1984
    @WSmith_1984 5 місяців тому

    The test with the key only proves people are suggestible and can be manipulated via peer pressure, the key didn't bend either, neither of these disprove the reality that this professor and his colleagues clearly do not understand....
    When you understand how consciousness works then all else becomes absolutely clear...
    From my experience/experimentation, I believe psyc hedelics/mediation/sound frequencies break down the barrier between our conscious and subconscious mind, allowing our conscious mind to experience our sub conscious thoughts, feelings and memories..... however I also believe, in our subconscious mind we can access the universal consciousness......
    One of my first truly breakthrough experiences, during my own experimentation was this..... the words/feeling/communication I was experiencing, felt as if they were coming from someone/something/somewhere else....
    """"" Hey we've been waiting for you... don't be scared...... don't be scared....... your family is here with us..... you don't really know him well, but he's family, he's family...... it's (then proceeded to tell me a name) he's safe, he's here with us, he's your family don't worry, he's with us""""
    3 days later I was with my mum and we were talking about our family and I was asking if any of my older family members had caught or been effected by c v..... at first she said no.... then after a short pause she said her cousin..... with the same name I had heard/felt/experienced 3 days before had been in a coma for 4 days with pneumonia and died the day after my experience......... I was gobsmacked and instantly began to feel an incredible sadness this was one of the most profound experiences of my life......... I had only ever met the man a few times and never really seen him or his family in my day to day life or on social media as I only use this......... there had been no mention from anyone or way of me knowing about his predicament in the weeks prior.
    I was a hard-core atheist before this....... now I have a new found sense of........ enlightenment amazement, fascination and desire to discover the world to which is there but we cannot see or experience, not in our normal state anyway.
    Peace, power and freedom to all the psychonauts out there.......

  • @uK8cvPAq
    @uK8cvPAq 6 років тому +4

    Why was there so many old people in the audience?

    • @TheRoyalInstitution
      @TheRoyalInstitution  6 років тому +14

      This talk was given in conjunction with the University of the Third Age, a brilliant community lead organisation dedicated to bring retirees together to learn and develop their interests together in an informal way.

    • @uK8cvPAq
      @uK8cvPAq 6 років тому +1

      Good to know.

    • @RFC3514
      @RFC3514 4 роки тому +5

      They're actually young people who travelled from the past.

    • @iandoyle5017
      @iandoyle5017 4 роки тому

      ghosts

  • @justindelove8960
    @justindelove8960 6 років тому +5

    Re predictive dreams. I had a dream about my then business partner. In this dream he attacked me in my house, tried to rape me and kill me. A couple of months later he accused of stealing from me and threatened me greviously to try and extort money he claimed I owed him. Now I knew this guy was unstable and given to violence, but the business was doing well, and I was fairly confident I could keep things under control - you can;t only work with perfect people. So, I don't think I predicted the future like predicting a random event. What happened with my partner was in fact inevitable given his personal problems, but I choose to put my doubts aside, and my dream expressed a genuine and well founded fear. Most events in life are not random, and much of what think of as 'unpredictable, is actually perfectly predicable if looked at from the correct perspective. But I don't have such dreams regularly so why this one? ( i have had others but they are very rare and always relate to extreme circumstances) Well the threat this guy posed was very real and indeed I had take quite drastic action to prevent him attacking me. So, this was a fair warning and actually it did help me as I was less surprised and took strong measures to counter the threat quicker than I otherwise might. I don't consider this demonstrates the paranormal, but merely than my consciousness has many levels and safeguards built in over billions of years.

    • @johnnyb6049
      @johnnyb6049 4 роки тому

      Justin De Love,
      You are very astute and your suggestion that these types of awareness is a product of Billions of years appears to be Right On the Mark,
      Be Well and Stay Safe

    • @iandoyle5017
      @iandoyle5017 4 роки тому

      hopefully professional help is being sought, in your case i don't think it matters if its a priest or a shrink.

  • @isabelmagnolia5070
    @isabelmagnolia5070 5 років тому +2

    I remember watching the isle of Barah one and that was interesting but I wonder if you can inherit memories, if you can inherit personalitiy traits why not memories, maybe it was a relative they didn't know about or weren't willing to reveal as a relative. Sorry if I butchered the name Barah. It could also be how you make a prodigy out of someone and that the parents flooded this little boy with false memories that they already researched.

  • @VladyslavKL
    @VladyslavKL 5 років тому +1

    🕊

  • @leonidasarisari5266
    @leonidasarisari5266 3 місяці тому

    There‘s a woman who read cards on me 15 years ago, she had seen my future before it unfolded. 98% accurate read. I searched for her again when back to my home town, She looks the same after 13 years. She read my cards again, it’s unbelievable how she have seen my 2023 future again. The read has happened a year before. She said I would meet someone name David. 3X she shuffled the cards, let me chose few and the reading were the same about David. Guess what, since last year June, I‘m taking online courses that interest me so much and the main Coach name is David and another co-Trainer Coach is also David. Coincidence or what?

  • @elinan5169
    @elinan5169 4 роки тому

    I'm surprised he gave the example of the guy who pained his dreams. On one hand I'm very skeptical to claims about the paranormal, on the other hand I believe in many paranormal things like reincarnation. But even i didn't take seriously the guy who pained his dreams and put it all to chance. He had many paintings and none of them came true, so it's not so strange if one came true accidentally. A coincidence.

    • @iandoyle5017
      @iandoyle5017 Рік тому

      Erm do you believe in weirdly contradicting yourself? So we'll it's almost paranormal? Probably not 😁

  • @patrickleahey4574
    @patrickleahey4574 7 років тому +2

    Yes and I am also skeptical BUT I have had spooky dreams at a distance. I cannot make them happen. I wish I could. Sorry.

    • @iandoyle5017
      @iandoyle5017 4 роки тому

      gobbldygook thats what you said right?

  • @DavidFMayerPhD
    @DavidFMayerPhD 5 років тому +2

    If the "Parapsychologists" tried to convince Physicists or Chemists of their absurd claims, they would be picked up and bodily ejected.
    Chris French said: "What would a Science look like if it were all noise? I think that it would look like Parapsychology"
    Brilliant!

    • @jeroenvdbart4809
      @jeroenvdbart4809 4 роки тому

      While materialist science cannot explain consciousness and nde's there should be an open science to allow parapsychology

    • @DavidFMayerPhD
      @DavidFMayerPhD 4 роки тому +3

      @@jeroenvdbart4809 There is no such thing as "non-materialist" Science, unless you mean Mathematics. There is no way that Parapsychology could become scientific, because it explains and describes NOTHING other than delusions, hallucinations, and fairy stories.

    • @causalityismygod2983
      @causalityismygod2983 7 місяців тому

      ​@@DavidFMayerPhDconsciousness is a fairy story then

  • @stewartquark1661
    @stewartquark1661 4 роки тому +1

    Those interested in this field of endeavor would find my life quintessentially interesting

  • @ViktorKralovic
    @ViktorKralovic 4 роки тому

    professor? Chris French... how?

  • @johannapetroff8459
    @johannapetroff8459 3 роки тому +1

    When some one decides to research something whether it the paranormal or anything else, they do so with one of two intentions in mind. They either want to prove or disprove the thing they are researching.If they want to prove a thing they will intuitively find the resources that will provide the evidence the thing exists. If they do not wish to prove a thing they will intuitively avoid finding the evidence.
    And honestly, anyone who does not have any paranormal skills are not qualified to research the paranormal. Aura vision is the easiest paranormal skill to develop. It only takes a few minutes to attain the simplest level. Without it you cannot see paranormal events. A blind person cannot see the things are sighted person can see. A sighted person without aura vision cannot see paranormal activity.
    So if you're going to investigate the paranormal develop the necessary skills first.😇

  • @parcm
    @parcm 4 роки тому +3

    It is obvious that some people 'need' real nonsense in times of scientific demystification.
    Think of it as a romantic craving for mystery to make their lives meaningful again.

    • @amarug
      @amarug 4 роки тому

      Well said...

    • @iandoyle5017
      @iandoyle5017 4 роки тому

      meaningful nonsense. makes the world go round.

    • @Chloeyboey217
      @Chloeyboey217 3 роки тому

      Cognitive dissonance

  • @jayalakshmi1962
    @jayalakshmi1962 5 років тому

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  • @oliverbach4034
    @oliverbach4034 3 роки тому

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  • @xqxxqx5810
    @xqxxqx5810 4 роки тому +1

    He probably never heard about Einstein-Rosen bridge or Einstein-Rosen wormhole , space - time curvature and subatomic particles entanglement.. A wormhole can be visualized as a tunnel with two ends at separate points in spacetime (i.e., different locations, or different points in time, or both.) There isn't anything paranormal about such a claims. Quantum physics have quite simple explanation to this. As the time and space could travel back ( be bend ) and forth at the different speeds under a various condition. Therefore an information which exceeded speed of light could travel back in time. Astrology may give you a hint how quantum gravity influences such a things. Or think why Greenland appears bigger then Afrika on the map is another clue.

  • @frognik79
    @frognik79 8 років тому +1

    nope, this is not science

    • @whoeveriam0iam14222
      @whoeveriam0iam14222 8 років тому +8

      psychology is science and this is part of that

    • @JAYDUBYAH29
      @JAYDUBYAH29 8 років тому

      +whoeveriam0iam14222 it is a failed science with zero positive evidence and no contributions to human knowledge, except the psychology of confirmation bias...

    • @cortster12
      @cortster12 8 років тому +4

      The problem is that humans suck at statistics, like he even admitted, so a purely statistical science based around a massive amount of variables (like the human brain) generates a lot of errors at no true fault of anyone besides human nature. So it's a science, it's just much harder than other sciences in terms of accuracy. Until we get better computers that can think better than humans and process these variables better than us, this is the best we got. Science isn't perfect, and it never will be.
      Deal with it.

    • @frognik79
      @frognik79 8 років тому +1

      cortster12
      nope not going to deal with it, going to watch some real science instead.

    • @cortster12
      @cortster12 8 років тому +2

      frognik79 I take it you're not a skeptic, then? I actually went into this thinking it was bullshit, but as a skeptic I wanted to hear his side first before making an opinion. Anything else is willful ignorance.

  • @xtroyboy7338
    @xtroyboy7338 Рік тому

    I was in the unfortunatly 121412 SandyHook Elementary school shooting event in spirit😪could you please help me decipher this accurance? I've had other dreams , but this one is the only one that has really hit home becouse of the Children😔
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