Very nice to hear your insights and to hear about your cultural traditions. I grew up very disconnected from my Dutch heritage but found out later a little bit about a dying ritual for women: They were buried with their sowing needle in the clothes she wore on her wedding night, and the windows of the house of the deceased would be blocked by white sheets. Our cultural roots have been blended and fragmented for so long that it lacks a very cohesive cultural framework. I think that is why many Western people (I know I did) turn to foreign religions and traditions in search of a cultural framework that offers the bone structure to their spirituality and their identity. This poem I wrote after I moved to Australia describes this search: I came to this land without tradition, I came to this land without a home, I came to this land I am on a mission, I came to this land to find my bones.
Our youth need to hear this more! Especially young men. It's a way to start changing the landscape of what we think and what we think we know. Be the change you want to see in this world. Teach only Love for that is what you are ❤ Blessings my brothers 🙏🌿
thank you for sharing this excellent discussion. i appreciated everyone sharing the various practices from their cultures. mainstream western culture just doesn't have these kinds of "community healing" rituals/ceremonies/practices. i don't know about trauma-informed, but the purpose of the practices seems to be to heal the community rupture & let out the pain. thinking back to westerners (like myself), there was just nothing like this. in my family, they just denied that there was even any pain (let alone discussion of healing). they wouldn't even recognize the need for a healing ritual or community activity. also, there wasn't any community to heal. people are very isolated, whether on their own or in small family units. so most people don't have any community that could be "repaired", and they don't have any kind of elder who would be respected in the community and who could help restore the community "body". also, a lot of people are not religious, and for the ones that are, they often have very dry, hollow rituals that don't actually heal. it's like going through the motions. based on what everyone was saying in the video, it sounds like the practice has to have meaning for the participants in order for anything to actually get fixed. among many people raised in modernist western cultures, there's no knowledge of healing/mending practices/ceremonies/rituals, and often there isn't even an understanding that it's necessary. often, there's no community that can be repaired. there also isn't really a concept of healing or clearing a *place* where something horrible happened. all we have is the "justice system", which so rarely delivers any kind of healing. anyway, i could read a whole book that shared different "community healing" type practices/rituals/ceremonies from different cultures. i think we all have a lot to learn from each other.
Indigenous cultures don’t need any “trauma informed practices” they have rituals and that is actual trauma work in action. The western world disconnected a long time ago from important ancestral healing work although Eastern European countries for example still have them as a part of Christian rites but the west doesn’t have anything - therefore trauma informed is needed in the west but is in the end “a copy” of what rituals provide in other parts of the world.
Nonsense. Aboriginal people had war and violence. But no trauma? He means they were in denial? Aboriginal people had no human feelings? No greed, lies, trickery? Nonsense. No trauma though the Aboriginal word for pain is Pika. No Trauma from pain? Nonsense.
They did, yet saw and framed it in different ways than individualistic, black/white dualistic Western ways... Also, Tyson is referring to traditional Aboriginal Australian ways, not necessarily more recent ways that may include both ancient and contemporary practices.
Trauma informed false traps- dealing with binary thinking as a block to healing ❤️🩹 Such wonderful insights! Individual vs. Community “Fields and principalities…not just an individual…but an individuals indebtedness to forces” ❤️🌀 Pain avoidant vs. Pain centered “fetishisizing the fragility OR fetishize the pain or wound itself…we need to bring us out of this false choice”❤️❤️🩹⚡️
Very nice to hear your insights and to hear about your cultural traditions. I grew up very disconnected from my Dutch heritage but found out later a little bit about a dying ritual for women: They were buried with their sowing needle in the clothes she wore on her wedding night, and the windows of the house of the deceased would be blocked by white sheets. Our cultural roots have been blended and fragmented for so long that it lacks a very cohesive cultural framework. I think that is why many Western people (I know I did) turn to foreign religions and traditions in search of a cultural framework that offers the bone structure to their spirituality and their identity.
This poem I wrote after I moved to Australia describes this search:
I came to this land without tradition, I came to this land without a home, I came to this land I am on a mission, I came to this land to find my bones.
Epic Conversation! Thx
Our youth need to hear this more!
Especially young men.
It's a way to start changing the landscape of what we think and what we think we know.
Be the change you want to see in this world. Teach only Love for that is what you are ❤
Blessings my brothers 🙏🌿
@peacelovejoy8786 Indeed - how can we get this out there???
Share the link 😉? (and take it from there 😊?)
thank you for sharing this excellent discussion. i appreciated everyone sharing the various practices from their cultures. mainstream western culture just doesn't have these kinds of "community healing" rituals/ceremonies/practices. i don't know about trauma-informed, but the purpose of the practices seems to be to heal the community rupture & let out the pain.
thinking back to westerners (like myself), there was just nothing like this. in my family, they just denied that there was even any pain (let alone discussion of healing). they wouldn't even recognize the need for a healing ritual or community activity.
also, there wasn't any community to heal. people are very isolated, whether on their own or in small family units. so most people don't have any community that could be "repaired", and they don't have any kind of elder who would be respected in the community and who could help restore the community "body".
also, a lot of people are not religious, and for the ones that are, they often have very dry, hollow rituals that don't actually heal. it's like going through the motions. based on what everyone was saying in the video, it sounds like the practice has to have meaning for the participants in order for anything to actually get fixed.
among many people raised in modernist western cultures, there's no knowledge of healing/mending practices/ceremonies/rituals, and often there isn't even an understanding that it's necessary. often, there's no community that can be repaired. there also isn't really a concept of healing or clearing a *place* where something horrible happened. all we have is the "justice system", which so rarely delivers any kind of healing.
anyway, i could read a whole book that shared different "community healing" type practices/rituals/ceremonies from different cultures. i think we all have a lot to learn from each other.
Well is he now? The boy from Cooran!
I’m so interested to hear more ! Bravo 👏
Thank you for sharing this. ❤
omg the story about the Master’s nephew @ 6:25...i died🤣 but seriously what an amazing conversation♥️
Indigenous cultures don’t need any “trauma informed practices” they have rituals and that is actual trauma work in action. The western world disconnected a long time ago from important ancestral healing work although Eastern European countries for example still have them as a part of Christian rites but the west doesn’t have anything - therefore trauma informed is needed in the west but is in the end “a copy” of what rituals provide in other parts of the world.
Nonsense. Aboriginal people had war and violence. But no trauma? He means they were in denial? Aboriginal people had no human feelings? No greed, lies, trickery? Nonsense. No trauma though the Aboriginal word for pain is Pika. No Trauma from pain? Nonsense.
They did, yet saw and framed it in different ways than individualistic, black/white dualistic Western ways... Also, Tyson is referring to traditional Aboriginal Australian ways, not necessarily more recent ways that may include both ancient and contemporary practices.
Trauma informed false traps- dealing with binary thinking as a block to healing ❤️🩹
Such wonderful insights!
Individual vs. Community
“Fields and principalities…not just an individual…but an individuals indebtedness to forces” ❤️🌀
Pain avoidant vs. Pain centered
“fetishisizing the fragility OR fetishize the pain or wound itself…we need to bring us out of this false choice”❤️❤️🩹⚡️