Quick example of how to safety wire two bolts! Aviation style 😎

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  • Full disclaimer! The bolts are in the top of my toolbox. I put them there for practice and it’s easier to record a video. It is not an aircraft component!
    Second, my pigtail was tight and short. I am well aware of this 😂 I was just messing around when I made this video and I did most of it while looking through the camera. I will be sure to correct everything that all of y’all have pointed out. Stay tuned!

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  • @Reallytallsocks
    @Reallytallsocks Рік тому +1508

    The most surefire way I've found to keep bolts from backing out is to cross thread them with an impact. Nature's locktight.

  • @jrwhite7916
    @jrwhite7916 Рік тому +89

    I am a retired Gas Turbine machanic. I installed miles of safety wire (we called in Lock Wire) over the course of 20 plus years. Very well done, but the tail was wound too tight. There is actually a scale that dictaces twists per inch depending on the size of the wire. We actually had to pass a course on it when I went to school! But damn fine work otherwise!

    • @scottyp2625
      @scottyp2625  Рік тому +17

      I definitely over twisted and cut the pigtail too short. I was rushing to fit it all Into 60 seconds 😅 for the .032 wire the twist rate is 6-8 twists per inch

    • @thumbwiz
      @thumbwiz Рік тому +5

      There's always somebody to say "I do that too, only better".

    • @johnsmith2598
      @johnsmith2598 Рік тому +1

      Government money well spent

    • @drdoctor2433
      @drdoctor2433 Рік тому +2

      6 twists per inch

    • @TheAcceleratorMagazine
      @TheAcceleratorMagazine Рік тому

      Lock washer and twisted Loctite. Less work more tite. At least that's what she said.

  • @lonelydriver8971
    @lonelydriver8971 Рік тому +35

    i've never seen a safety wiring video where the commenters agree with what the guy is doing

    • @scottyp2625
      @scottyp2625  Рік тому +3

      Thank you! Some people have made a few comments about the flip or the numbers of twists, but I’m not perfect. I’m just trying to educate!

  • @loganrhodes8912
    @loganrhodes8912 Рік тому +1381

    Good job. Pig tail was a little short like you said, but the tail was also too tight

    • @scottyp2625
      @scottyp2625  Рік тому +171

      I’ve always had a tendency to over tighten the pigtails. I like to really bend them and tuck them away so I make them tight to avoid unwinding after bending. But thank
      You!

    • @Marfoir0303
      @Marfoir0303 Рік тому +88

      I agree nice job, at times safety wiring can be a pain in the ass for example changing a jet engine requires so much safety wire it could have put me in a nut house at times 🤣

    • @scottyp2625
      @scottyp2625  Рік тому +56

      @@Marfoir0303 I feel that! Engines are always loaded with safety wire, great practice tho!

    • @NCISGibbs88
      @NCISGibbs88 Рік тому +21

      @@scottyp2625 I had a qc show me a trick about unwinding. If you can, bend your pigtail THEN cut off excess. Even if you cut it 2 or 3 twists long, then go and cut it again after you bend it

    • @scottyp2625
      @scottyp2625  Рік тому +6

      @@NCISGibbs88 great point!

  • @AkiraMikaela
    @AkiraMikaela Рік тому +228

    That pancake flip took me back to the hanger. Well done. Even with that short tail.

    • @scottyp2625
      @scottyp2625  Рік тому +13

      Thank you sir! Some people are haters of the flip, but it gets that back wire tight

    • @j.gilbert429
      @j.gilbert429 Рік тому +6

      Hangar

    • @mgmjferg89
      @mgmjferg89 Рік тому +3

      ​@@scottyp2625 a lady in the assembly dept at cessna taught me that flip, works great for exactly that tightening up the gap at the bolt. Nice work.

    • @hunternadon6711
      @hunternadon6711 Рік тому +1

      It’s my favorite trick too

    • @brad8626
      @brad8626 Рік тому +2

      We always called the flip the “round the world”

  • @ryandeweese363
    @ryandeweese363 Рік тому +145

    I didn't know it was to keep bolts from backing out... always just thought it was for not losing caps or removable items...Thanks, learned something!!

    • @scottyp2625
      @scottyp2625  Рік тому +26

      Yes sir! The constant vibration and heat has a tendency to loosen bolts, so safety wire is how we keep them tight!

    • @brianfoster7064
      @brianfoster7064 Рік тому +9

      This is done to prevent the parts from coming loose and to keep those parts from becoming FOD, which is very bad for jet engines.

    • @Loki1620
      @Loki1620 Рік тому +15

      Vital for helicopters which is just 30,000 parts flying in close formation.

    • @cdogdeluxe6037
      @cdogdeluxe6037 Рік тому +4

      @@scottyp2625 not to keep them tight. It’s only to keep them from falling out and damaging other parts

    • @illbeyourmonster3591
      @illbeyourmonster3591 Рік тому +4

      @@Loki1620 All made by the lowest bidder, of course.

  • @seantoomey1514
    @seantoomey1514 Рік тому +32

    Love the enthusiasm. Rule of thumb, 8 twists per inch (1/8"). Also, when I trim the tail and fold it in half, I then bend the tail in towards the head of the bolt with the trimmed (sharp) end tucked out of the way of potential snags in the future.

    • @Loki1620
      @Loki1620 Рік тому +4

      Nothing worse than catching that cut tip and slicing your hand reaching for the neighboring component!

    • @100GTAGUY
      @100GTAGUY Рік тому +3

      ​@@Loki1620oooh there's something worse, just wait till the IA gets bit by your safety wire and you'll see haha.
      I still have a bright red lil pinhole right on my left index finger where a strand of .032 safetywire stabbed into a vein and went in a good bit too. Felt it was only in the vein too which was a really odd feeling. Happened like ten or so years ago meanwhile all the other cuts and burns around it have healed up just fine lol.

    • @ryanjarrett5933
      @ryanjarrett5933 Рік тому +2

      Took the words right out of my Maintenance manual!😉

    • @Loki1620
      @Loki1620 Рік тому

      @@ryanjarrett5933 love my TODO followers!

    • @Loki1620
      @Loki1620 Рік тому

      @@100GTAGUY no kidding! IA gonna light into whoever signed off on the work, too!

  • @whiteblackgrayman
    @whiteblackgrayman Рік тому +164

    I loved the safety wire pliers in my armory toolkit. Never used them, but they're still one of my favorite tools

    • @scottyp2625
      @scottyp2625  Рік тому +12

      I love my milbar pliers. Best twisters I’ve used

    • @triperiperanger7319
      @triperiperanger7319 Рік тому +4

      We only used them after master gunner lvl maintenance on the chain guns. Never really seen them used anywhere else but aviation use makes complete sense.

    • @Loki1620
      @Loki1620 Рік тому +2

      @@triperiperanger7319 oilfield motors need lock wire, but I have yet to see anyone actually use any!

    • @100GTAGUY
      @100GTAGUY Рік тому +4

      Ahh the Gov bought you a set for your toolkit, but I'm betting whoever you directly answer to only let's ya hand twist it eh?

    • @scottyp2625
      @scottyp2625  Рік тому

      @@Loki1620 they sure do save a lot of time!

  • @Clarkster420
    @Clarkster420 Рік тому +8

    Those pliers are the best thing about this whole video.!!

  • @remingtonwatson2812
    @remingtonwatson2812 Рік тому +33

    Push the pig tail to the bolt or it can still get you, particularly on aircraft when you’re reaching in places you can’t see. Also be careful with safety wire pliers, you can make it too tight, and therefore brittle. Vibration can snap it if it’s too tight.

  • @slickchims8736
    @slickchims8736 Рік тому +96

    Love these pliers. Great for securing parts to motorcycles. Track days require lots of scrutiny and the best way to get in first is having all your easy fail components wired in.

    • @leobernal4251
      @leobernal4251 Рік тому +1

      We weren’t allowed to use those pliers to safety wire. QCs would not allow it. Is it allowed now on army helicopters?

    • @michael2810
      @michael2810 Рік тому +1

      There sooo expensive now it's unreal

    • @aaronkameric1419
      @aaronkameric1419 Рік тому +2

      What kind are they?

    • @TommyOhmalley
      @TommyOhmalley Рік тому +1

      Yeah I was curious what this tool was. Ratcheting wire pliers?

    • @michael2810
      @michael2810 Рік тому +1

      @@TommyOhmalley milbar safety wire pliers

  • @damon2772nomad
    @damon2772nomad Рік тому +1

    This is a new thing to me...pretty good safety measure for engineering issues. I'm going to look into it's history now...thanks.

  • @rocknrolla3114
    @rocknrolla3114 Рік тому +4

    Did this about a million times as a C-130 Crew Chief in the USAF! Good skills!

    • @scottyp2625
      @scottyp2625  Рік тому +1

      Thank you sir!

    • @BryanWood87
      @BryanWood87 Рік тому +1

      Robins AFB? I know we got 130s so just guessing :p

    • @rocknrolla3114
      @rocknrolla3114 Рік тому

      @@BryanWood87 Unfortunately, no. That would have been a nice base to be assigned, tho. I was stationed at Pope AFB and then took a 3-year tour to Rhein Main AFB. They're both long since shutdown sadly...😮‍💨
      Pope was taken over by the Army - Ft. Bragg, and Rhein Main was sold back to Germany.

  • @Anthony_DP
    @Anthony_DP Рік тому +2

    I have safety wired so many bolts in my life and I still like the elegance and art of it.

  • @Oogabooga-
    @Oogabooga- Рік тому +127

    Lil tip, do the first twist or two by hand, that way the pliers evenly twist everything and your twists aren’t too fine

    • @CultofPinot
      @CultofPinot Рік тому +1

      This is what I teach my students

    • @elijahlluellen7690
      @elijahlluellen7690 Рік тому +4

      lil tip, learn how to use your safety wire pliers

    • @danielstrother2494
      @danielstrother2494 Рік тому

      @@elijahlluellen7690 he does. What he said was spot on. When he says manually he’s talking about in the pliers with them locked. Them use the mechanical twister. That’s how the Air Force and the A &P I went to taught me. 🤷‍♂️

  • @camerongunn7906
    @camerongunn7906 Рік тому +2

    God bless you for put the pigtail on the end. I used to have to lace those puppies up In The Arms Room in the military. You could tell who I like and who I didn't like by how I laced it

  • @nedstarkravingmad1799
    @nedstarkravingmad1799 Рік тому +5

    This will come in handy if I ever have to build a pre-WWI triplane...

    • @scottyp2625
      @scottyp2625  Рік тому

      Every modern aircraft still uses safety wire for a lot of components. If it ain’t broke, don’t fix it 🤷🏻‍♀️

    • @christophercollins868
      @christophercollins868 Рік тому

      Umm, safety wire is still used in modern aircraft.

    • @JohnDoe-sb2kj
      @JohnDoe-sb2kj 7 місяців тому

      You have zero clue. Every aircraft in the world uses safety wire. To include those not even dreamed up yet. Another moron commenter.

  • @waynecable6537
    @waynecable6537 Рік тому +2

    I had a chance to use this method on a hydraulic cylinder I repaired. Fun stuff. Old school

  • @mexban
    @mexban Рік тому +2

    Brings back memories from being in the Navy

    • @connerwright5480
      @connerwright5480 Рік тому

      I was gonna say marines. Machine gunner’s course.

  • @nizzledizzle7934
    @nizzledizzle7934 Рік тому +3

    That's a pretty cool trick. I like how different types of mechanics have their own trade-specific ways of doing things. For instance, as an industrial maintenance mechanic, when we really want fasteners to stay secure then we mostly just weld them in place.

    • @scottyp2625
      @scottyp2625  Рік тому +3

      Hahahah I mean if it gets the job done..😂 unfortunately we don’t have the luxury of welding bolts and nuts, but if we did I’d be all
      About it!

  • @bergfpv6486
    @bergfpv6486 Рік тому +1

    Such a simple but clever idea. Amazing that I've never seen it before. I guess it's only used in some very narrow fields where safety is extremely crucial.

    • @scottyp2625
      @scottyp2625  Рік тому

      It really is such a simple idea and allows for the bolts to be removed easily without the added frustration of thread locker. I use it in Aviation, but it seems like a lot of automotive guys use it on high end vehicles

  • @stevenm3141
    @stevenm3141 Рік тому +3

    I haven't seen lacing in years! Almost forgot about it. Used to do it in the military. On heavy equipment. Nice job

  • @davidfitnesstech
    @davidfitnesstech Рік тому +1

    Yes. I noticed this system on older warplanes. Still a great method.

  • @Grevlen1
    @Grevlen1 Рік тому +17

    Pig tail was probably out of spec for too many twists. I always do the first couple turns by hand and keep the turns at the base of the head so that you don't have to twist it alot to tension.

    • @stout890
      @stout890 Рік тому +1

      same here. around the worlds help too. he does on one the beginning.

    • @Jetmech1781
      @Jetmech1781 Рік тому

      Also doesn't go to the hole.

  • @lexbustamante757
    @lexbustamante757 Рік тому +2

    This takes me back to PCL on a rotor head. As a AD, if you can’t do this and your wire pops or pig tails pop as well you’ll never get anytime learning and troubleshooting bigger issues as an E3 you better have this down pact or just do your 4 and get out.

  • @spacecowby08p14
    @spacecowby08p14 Рік тому +3

    Good stuff, I would have pinched the wire and wrapped it a tiny bit shorter, just before sending the one line through the second bolt head, (to give a little room for the wire to stretch tighter in the send half of the second bolt) then after wrapping the bolt head the way you did perfectly I would have used the “around the world method” just before cutting the pig tail to even further tighten the bolts down. “Around the world” is manually spinning the swaps in your hand counter-clockwise (like you said, to put the outer line of wire below the wire that shot through) while also using your whole arm to draw a circle with the swaps counter clockwise, this is meant to prioritize wrapping the wire at the base where the two wires meet again and cinch it tighter. Very easy to shear the wire this way but makes it all much tighter! That’s just what military safety wiring has taught me so if it’s wrong then someone tell the NAMP

    • @EnkiTwo
      @EnkiTwo Рік тому

      Amending and updating TCTO's..

  • @oNeGiAnTLiE
    @oNeGiAnTLiE Рік тому +1

    Brings me back to my days aboard CV-62 where i would do that for hrs sometimes. V-2 division 1980-81

    • @drwombat
      @drwombat Рік тому

      Every bolt had to be safety wired?

  • @claytonfoot959
    @claytonfoot959 Рік тому +16

    Those are some dope ass pliers

    • @otabwill709
      @otabwill709 Рік тому

      Twisting pliers. Had to Google it myself haha

    • @scottyp2625
      @scottyp2625  Рік тому +2

      I posted a few more videos about the pliers themselves if y’all are interested!

    • @martindixson157
      @martindixson157 Рік тому

      Milbars for the win

  • @bs081502bs
    @bs081502bs Рік тому +1

    I was a T-58 mechanic in the Marine Corps. We had to single strand safety wire the bolts on the labyrinth seal at the rear of the compressor. It's was down inside the center of the combustion casing which was about 7-8" deep and approx 4" in Dia. Biggest pain in the ass area to safety wire on the whole engine. We modified a set of needle nose pliers to do it. Still hard as heck to do.

  • @apextiger4459
    @apextiger4459 Рік тому +6

    We do this on submarines as well:)
    Source: retired Navy missile technician

  • @dupre7416
    @dupre7416 Рік тому +1

    I used to do this when I raced motorcycles 30 years ago. Damn I'm old.

  • @manguydude287
    @manguydude287 Рік тому +65

    my brother worked as an aviation maintainer (national guard) for a while and said so many people did this wrong that they just glue in the bolts now. turns out you can work on airframes and also eat crayons

    • @scottyp2625
      @scottyp2625  Рік тому +14

      Safety wiring can definitely be tough to learn at first. Especially in tight spaces, but the military will always find ways around it. Crayons for days!

    • @manguydude287
      @manguydude287 Рік тому +3

      @@scottyp2625 it's definitely a trick to get it right. lefty tighty, righty loosey

    • @jordanharvey2163
      @jordanharvey2163 Рік тому +3

      Army guard doesn't eat crayons. That's marines.

    • @r4raced4doom2
      @r4raced4doom2 Рік тому +7

      *mechanic or technician* calling aircraft mechanics a 'maintainer' is a quick way to get a wrench to the dome.

    • @jordanharvey2163
      @jordanharvey2163 Рік тому

      @@r4raced4doom2 well everyone knows the military subs out the actual work. We only learn a tad bit in ait. Your unit finesses your skills.

  • @rbmwiv
    @rbmwiv Рік тому +6

    I wish brake rotor hubs were this easy. On race cars they have a 3 piece rotor and the outer disc is bolted to the hub that the wheel is mounted to and there’s usually 16 bolts per rotor and you have to safely wire them together preferably in a row like a chain. If I can take my time and do it I can get all 16 on the same wire and the beginning and end come together. If I am in a hurry then I can get about 6 in a row.

    • @scottyp2625
      @scottyp2625  Рік тому

      16 bolts is a lot to have to tie in all together, but I bet it looks awesome when it’s all done. Have you ever seen a safety cable gun? Makes it all a lot easier

    • @Pieman6711
      @Pieman6711 Рік тому

      You should only be safety wiring two bolts at a time, though.

  • @Dindonmasker
    @Dindonmasker Рік тому +1

    I never heard of that safety wire technique before learning about those north washers that bite and now i see a short about it! I love it!

  • @lonniewibberding5715
    @lonniewibberding5715 Рік тому +3

    I've been looking for videos like yours about A&P topics for a long time and haven't found much. Thanks for this and keep up the good work.

    • @scottyp2625
      @scottyp2625  Рік тому

      Thank you very much! I have noticed there isn’t much out there about A&P work so i wanted to try and get some information out there. If there’s any topics you’d recommend just let me know!

    • @lonniewibberding5715
      @lonniewibberding5715 Рік тому +1

      @@scottyp2625 Honestly just trivia tidbits like this are quite interesting to me personally. I'm trying to get into the industry taking the apprenticeship route to get my A&P, and little details about aircraft systems or repair procedures are cool to see.

    • @scottyp2625
      @scottyp2625  Рік тому +1

      @@lonniewibberding5715 that’s awesome man, keep up the good work and you’ll get there. I’ll try to keep putting more info out there

  • @omaigadbrochacho2812
    @omaigadbrochacho2812 Рік тому +1

    Always appreciate something new.

  • @ncrawford1488
    @ncrawford1488 Рік тому +45

    Too many twists, but you’ll get it! Fun stuff.

    • @FartInYourFace234
      @FartInYourFace234 Рік тому +2

      ToO MaNy TwIsTs
      thats what your uncle been telling you huh

    • @kylevictorwilliams
      @kylevictorwilliams Рік тому +1

      For for sure 12-14 should've been 8-12 twist per inch on 0.032". NAVAIR 01-1A-01 and the fastener manual NAVAIR 01-1A-"the Goddamn"tac 8"! there Devil Dog!

    • @terrypen
      @terrypen Рік тому +2

      This is the comment I came to see! Step #1 put those safety wire pliers back in your toolbox! Step #2 do it by hand!!!

    • @danielstrother2494
      @danielstrother2494 Рік тому +1

      @@terrypen nah. You’ll be there all day. That’s why they teach jet machs how to do it properly (with pliers) in Tech school…Air Force does anyway

    • @ncrawford1488
      @ncrawford1488 Рік тому

      @@FartInYourFace234 You know me too well.

  • @waynecable6537
    @waynecable6537 Рік тому +2

    This is old school, haven't seen this done for years, good job my friend 👏

  • @FBDC_Gaming
    @FBDC_Gaming Рік тому +3

    If only they made something like, oh I don’t know, a lock washer.

    • @scottyp2625
      @scottyp2625  Рік тому

      Lock washers don’t always work when combined with heat fluctuations and vibrations. That’s why we stick to safety wire

  • @jakoj2098
    @jakoj2098 Рік тому +1

    ah that vid brought back memories of my Qantas days

  • @pvtsammich
    @pvtsammich Рік тому +7

    You work harden the wire when you give the little Zorro flip at the end. It can cause it to crack and break off and generally not last as long. I know it makes it a lot tighter but it's a bad habit to get into.

    • @scottyp2625
      @scottyp2625  Рік тому +4

      The military always taught us to do the flip so that’s where I picked it up from. I’m sure it has its pros and cons

    • @dylanvromen3124
      @dylanvromen3124 Рік тому +1

      In School I was thought to do the flip so people can't cut their hand on the pigtail by accident

  • @stubnannie
    @stubnannie Рік тому +2

    Joined the USAF as a Jet Mach at 18. Been a mechanic now since 88. I thought EVERYONE knew how to safety wire. Then I had to teach an apprentice how to SW a tractionmotor plug. Wrong, the SW pliers confused him.

  • @napalmwolf6319
    @napalmwolf6319 Рік тому +7

    Not a bad safety, I'd try to get a little bigger pigtail just trim to what feels right but I've been told 5/8" is a good place and I'd try to 6-8 twist per inch. I'd also consider putting the wire that is closest to the hole after the twist into the hole because if you don't then the wire can chafe the one it's laying over.

    • @scottyp2625
      @scottyp2625  Рік тому +1

      Solid points! I will admit I was definitely rushing because I only had 60 seconds hahah I knew I cut the pigtail way too short

    • @ericr154
      @ericr154 Рік тому

      Good tips, thank you.

  • @joshwinters7290
    @joshwinters7290 Рік тому +2

    It's about time I've seen someone do this the correct way! BZ!

    • @scottyp2625
      @scottyp2625  Рік тому

      Thank you sir! It’s definitely not perfect, but it gets the point across!

  • @dice010693
    @dice010693 Рік тому +3

    I need those twisty pliers for my wire wrapping lol

  • @Crumb_Trails
    @Crumb_Trails Рік тому +1

    Man! This takes me back a ways.....

  • @richardwolske2015
    @richardwolske2015 Рік тому +3

    The most important thing I was taught never twist the wire fast or two tight while twisting! Why ? Heat and to much twist will make the wire brittle and cause it to fatigue and ultimately break . But safety wire is a great idea when your life is riding on it 👍jet mechanic training squadron HT-18 🇺🇸

    • @scottyp2625
      @scottyp2625  Рік тому

      I’ve been seeing a lot of people talk about all the different ways to safety and things to avoid. It makes me wanna make a test video where I see if it truly affects the strength or if it’s a myth.. stay tuned!

    • @richardwolske2015
      @richardwolske2015 Рік тому +1

      @@scottyp2625 as a jet mechanic and the flight line troubleshooter I didn’t take part in any testing of the safety wire guidelines, but as one of the few people authorized to work on any plane or helicopter I didn’t have a right to question the book , also we never could use a automatic twisting pliers. I’ve been building outboard motors for 20 years and I’ve personally came to the conclusion that over working any metal will fatigue it .
      No hard data just lots of nuts and bolts👍

    • @scottyp2625
      @scottyp2625  Рік тому +1

      @@richardwolske2015 fair enough! We were taught that safety wire on the roll is actually soft, but the twisting action is what hardens the wire. Of course, over working will make it brittle and break prematurely. Interesting stuff!

  • @masterbaits1
    @masterbaits1 Рік тому +3

    Neato, you learnt me something 😂 thank you good sir

  • @darrenhawthorne3366
    @darrenhawthorne3366 Рік тому +1

    like the wrist flip on the 1st spin, nicely done

  • @jmpiv4
    @jmpiv4 Рік тому +8

    need to do this with my exhaust manifold

  • @PartTimeYooper
    @PartTimeYooper Рік тому +1

    Never even knew but glad I have learned. Thanks!

  • @michaelfairchild
    @michaelfairchild Рік тому +4

    Gremlins on the wings: You want to bet your life on that?

  • @djdrisco123
    @djdrisco123 Рік тому +1

    Here come all the comments. But, bet none of you could have done this by hand...like a REAL MAN!

    • @scottyp2625
      @scottyp2625  Рік тому

      I fully prepare myself for these comments 😂 I also posted a video of me hand twisting just to prove my manhood

  • @Technichian462
    @Technichian462 Рік тому +6

    For those of you curious about why...
    While assisting the crew chiefs on an engine run, I was under the right aft aero 7/a launcher (Sta #7). out of the corner of my eye, I saw something fall. Quick reflexes, I caught it. It was one of the four bolts that hold it into the aircraft. That launcher also doubles to hold the main engine bay closed. IT WILL BE TORQUED AND SAFETY WIRED WHEN LAUNCHER IS INSTALLED. Now, you can put bolts in with a streamer, that says remove before flight. Kind of obvious no launcher is there. BUT EVEN THEN THEY ARE TORQUED. I'm at a loss what the torque value was. About 300 in pounds.
    After the first one fell, I looked up and the other three were spinning lose. I ran those three back in by hand, and called the crew cheif over (ok, I made frantic as hell movements signaling him to get his ass over here). HE looked at me confused, and I pointed up? He didnt get it, so I pointer at the three bolts that were turning very slowly lose.. He signaled emergency shut down. Aircraft powered down. Lots of people showed up. ALL OF THEM asked why I shut it down. "I didn't do it. I simply showed the Crew Chief the bolts that were backing out. It was his decision. He get credit for saving the aircraft, not me.
    Of course I didnt identify the the launcher was already installed, when I got there, and they failed to tell me that the launcher is stall was waiting. I though I was there to assist in an engine run.
    Goes to show you how important communication is. It gets reported VERBATIM no matter how many people it goes through.

    • @scottyp2625
      @scottyp2625  Рік тому

      Awesome story! Thank you for sharing!

  • @Hannibal54689
    @Hannibal54689 Рік тому +2

    I remember doing this in the Navy.

  • @DELL.ACNT.
    @DELL.ACNT. Рік тому +3

    I’ve never seen or heard of wiring bolts. That’s genius. Especially if you have something that’s thrashing around like a trailer bed, maybe some car suspension, amusement park rides, boats, bridges or any structures that are under stress, etc. if they wiggle or vibrate they help each other tighten up. 😂

    • @tgi3d881
      @tgi3d881 Рік тому +1

      On Baja team we did this for the Baja car (a dune buggy) because of all the vibration from off-roading could disassemble the car

  • @Subfightr
    @Subfightr Рік тому +2

    Ooooooh so that's why all the tools on the walking dead Saints and Sinners VR have wire wrapped around the bolts! Wooooo. Cool thx

  • @87Rado
    @87Rado Рік тому +3

    And then the torque puddy and insp stamp. Can't tell you how many of those have my inspection stamp on them. Nice work!

  • @tylerkulhanek8650
    @tylerkulhanek8650 Рік тому +2

    Pretty shotty lockwire job

  • @buttersstotch2014
    @buttersstotch2014 Рік тому +13

    I’ve never heard of this, very very cool! Is the hole in the bolt head drilled by the user or is it a specialty bolt that probably costs an arm and leg more?

    • @robertball3578
      @robertball3578 Рік тому +10

      Anything designated as aviation, marine, or medical will cost you plenty.

    • @Pichouette
      @Pichouette Рік тому +3

      They're made like that. I first used safety wire and pliers when I was a USMC M-60 machine gunner back in the 1980's on the gas system nuts on the barrel. I still have my 1st pair of pliers and have found many uses for safety wiring things over the years.

    • @nilloc171
      @nilloc171 Рік тому +1

      You can do both. Usually they are specialty but in some circumstances the hole can be added on the line

  • @thesaltyhooker5811
    @thesaltyhooker5811 Рік тому +1

    You can tell that someone knows what they’re doing when they do that last little twist with their hand motion. Also, another thing that you did, but did not mention was that the safety wire right before it goes into the second bolt. It needs to be the top wire and not the bottom wire. Great job dude takes me back to my helicopter mechanic days. 🤙

    • @scottyp2625
      @scottyp2625  Рік тому

      Thank you sir! I was feeling the pressure to get everything out in the 60 seconds hahaha but you made great points!

  • @Ptro1
    @Ptro1 Рік тому +17

    You know he doesn’t know what he’s doing when he doesn’t give it any pops and then leaves the tail up to grab someone

    • @waynewilliams4529
      @waynewilliams4529 Рік тому +1

      No you just mean he isnt osha and doesnt care about others. Different story more words blah blah chump bucket

    • @bcbottoms
      @bcbottoms Рік тому +1

      A little over twisted too IMO.

  • @fryncyaryorvjink2140
    @fryncyaryorvjink2140 Рік тому +1

    I've never thought about why they do this but that makes sense, cool

  • @luikedc5
    @luikedc5 Рік тому +6

    Felt like I was back on the line doing this on a 130 lol.

    • @GoatyHerps
      @GoatyHerps Рік тому

      Except you weren't squeezed into a hole half the size of your arm.

    • @EnkiTwo
      @EnkiTwo Рік тому +1

      Amen! I was on Combat Talon 2's and Combat Shadows. I miss it ever once and awhile.

    • @luikedc5
      @luikedc5 Рік тому +1

      @@EnkiTwo awesome, I was on gunships, worked mainly Whiskeys and H model gunships lol

    • @EnkiTwo
      @EnkiTwo Рік тому +1

      @@luikedc5 we had one stop by for a day. I had to LOX it up.. I had no idea how much LOX you guys needed.. I didn't think about how many crew it took to operate it.. If I remember right, it was 75L + another 25? Or 50+25.. I just remember 75 liters and 2 carts.. Took forever!!

    • @luikedc5
      @luikedc5 Рік тому

      @@EnkiTwo 😂 whiskeys just used a 75L tank. It does take forever from empty lol. The new ones use a 75 and a 25 in the nose wheel well…. If you can imagine the pain that endures to MX guys lol. It’s a pain lol.

  • @charleskelleher8022
    @charleskelleher8022 Рік тому +1

    Such a geat tool! I love thoes things.

  • @billyjojimbob5814
    @billyjojimbob5814 Рік тому +2

    This is about my most favorite mechanical video ever!!!
    Am I an idiot or is this just cool?

    • @scottyp2625
      @scottyp2625  Рік тому +1

      I personally think it’s pretty cool!

  • @connorbriggs398
    @connorbriggs398 Рік тому +3

    for the love of god what are those pliers. name would be dope but if u have a link id be super grateful.

    • @scottyp2625
      @scottyp2625  Рік тому +1

      They are a pair of Milbar 25w. The company Milbar makes other types of wire twisters as well. I don’t have a link but you can go on yardstore.com or any other aviation tool site and they will have them! Amazon also sells a cheaper pair

    • @adfdasdfadfadsfareae
      @adfdasdfadfadsfareae Рік тому +1

      @@scottyp2625 harbor freight also carries them, oddly enough.

  • @Jake39019
    @Jake39019 Рік тому +1

    The ol 7 level twist at the end. Nice.

    • @scottyp2625
      @scottyp2625  Рік тому +1

      I love hearing all of the different names for the twist. I’ve heard 7 level, zorro, around the world and pancake flip… love it!

  • @donedwards5007
    @donedwards5007 Рік тому +3

    Other than short pig tail per spec way to many twists per inch only should have 7 to 10 twists per inch.

  • @davidkingsley3244
    @davidkingsley3244 Рік тому +1

    We used too Safety Lock Bolts like that in the Navy, for Bolts to keep Water out of the People Tank

  • @jameslarkin4067
    @jameslarkin4067 Рік тому +4

    Couldn’t you just use nylock nuts like on marine applications? Or add a cotter pin?

    • @scottyp2625
      @scottyp2625  Рік тому +2

      Safety wire is used for bolts that go into threads. If a bolt gets a nut on the back it will either be a castle nut with a cotter pin (which is used on rotational parts) or a selfing locking nut. Aviation does not really use nylock nuts

    • @dylanbailey8464
      @dylanbailey8464 Рік тому +1

      ​@ScottyP26 For aviation purposes is thread locker not typically an option?

    • @scottyp2625
      @scottyp2625  Рік тому

      @@dylanbailey8464 I’ve personally never used thread locker on a bolt on an aircraft. Most of the bolts are required to come on and off for replacing the parts so thread locker isn’t the best option.

    • @Ricardothetomato
      @Ricardothetomato Рік тому +1

      Hello. Marine application here. Our gas turbine onboard still uses lockwire.

    • @scottyp2625
      @scottyp2625  Рік тому

      @@Ricardothetomato what kind of boats are you working on? I love that turbines are used for so many different things!

  • @Pichouette
    @Pichouette Рік тому +1

    I first used safety wire and pliers when I was a USMC M-60 machine gunner back in the 1980's on the gas system nuts on the barrel. I still have my 1st pair of pliers and have found many uses for safety wiring things over the years.

    • @scottyp2625
      @scottyp2625  Рік тому

      They are great all around tools! Even outside of aviation.

  • @jessebrown2100
    @jessebrown2100 Рік тому +7

    ... less twists, learn by hand First ! You will work harden and fatigue wire... if it is worth doing do it correctly !

    • @Jeanmat
      @Jeanmat Рік тому

      Yup. And even with pliers, doing the first 2-3 turns by hand and then switching to pliers will ensure a snug fit.

  • @i.r.wayright1457
    @i.r.wayright1457 Рік тому +2

    42 years an A&P, I.A. I used to hate safety wiring constant speed props. The nuts are pinned to studs with a roll pin and you had to safety wire through those roll pins. The nuts are in a recess and after torque those pin holes might not line up just right. And don't forget the spinner back plate or prop O ring. Or you get to do it twice.

    • @scottyp2625
      @scottyp2625  Рік тому

      Gotta love those damn engineers!

    • @i.r.wayright1457
      @i.r.wayright1457 Рік тому

      @@scottyp2625 What is your least favorite airplane to work on? For me it is the 601B Aerostar with twin turbos and an intercooler. Let's see you swap #5 or #6 cylinder. Best plane to work on Cessna Caravan, by far.

  • @saadmac523
    @saadmac523 Рік тому +3

    I think u did more then 9 twice per inch

    • @scottyp2625
      @scottyp2625  Рік тому

      Most likely, I was definitely rushing with my 60 second limit hahah

  • @b3passat19
    @b3passat19 Рік тому +1

    Awesome. I’m not a fan of those pliers rather just do it by hand. I like the circle twist to get it right up against the first bolt. Only recommendation is bend your pigtail first then trim. Keeps the tip nice and tight.

    • @scottyp2625
      @scottyp2625  Рік тому

      That’s an awesome piece of advice. I’ve never seen anyone bend then cut, but I’ll give it a try!

  • @pneumantic6297
    @pneumantic6297 Рік тому +3

    I mean... To standards you SHOULD NOT have wire wrap around the bolthead. It should only go through the holes. Safety wire is to prevent loosening with vibration. Vibrating over time will cause the edge of the bolt to act like a saw and cut the wire. Also, safety wire has slight stretch overtime and can vibrate over the bolt which allows the bolt to loosen. Safety wiring is an art form in the military and most don't perfect it for almost a decade. I did dozens daily so skill came a bit earlier for my 4 years. Also... I saw your cheater twist 😏 pig tail is a bit too tight too.

  • @sl3966
    @sl3966 Рік тому +1

    Somebody was a CDI in a squadron. Nice work! A little tight on the pigtail and final turn but good enough that I would sign off on it lol. I am still looking for safety wire pliers out here in the civilian world.

  • @hdvsmith
    @hdvsmith Рік тому +1

    Ahhhhh, I miss my time in the hanger! Well done.

  • @TheCjclaflin1
    @TheCjclaflin1 Рік тому +17

    When I worked in aviation as a mechanic we weren’t allowed to use safety wire pliers because we were told they over stress the wire and remove the safety coating on the wire so we had to do all the twists by hand. Loved when we had a Blackhawk rotor hub to lock wire all those big bolts on all 4 rotors.

    • @2001dj28
      @2001dj28 Рік тому +1

      YEEEAAAHHH, DONT USE THOSE TOOLS WE BOUGHT, INVENTORIED, AND ISSUED TO MAKE YOUR JOB EASIER! DO THAT MAIN ROTOR HEAD BY HAND!

    • @darken3150
      @darken3150 Рік тому +2

      @@2001dj28 Is your caps lock broken or you just a boomer?

    • @MRREE-zw6xc
      @MRREE-zw6xc Рік тому +1

      ​@@darken3150 BOOOOOOOMIN boomer

    • @2001dj28
      @2001dj28 Рік тому

      @@darken3150 I am very passionate about how much I hate lockwire

    • @EnkiTwo
      @EnkiTwo Рік тому +2

      I could see not using them on copper wire.. But for steel... Why did they buy and put them in toolboxes then?

  • @carsoncorbeil1737
    @carsoncorbeil1737 Рік тому +1

    I work in aerospace and we use this method alot during assembly

  • @michaelmiles9840
    @michaelmiles9840 Рік тому +1

    I'm surprised that I actually stumbled on an A&P related thing. Nice.

  • @maxkim7937
    @maxkim7937 Рік тому +1

    i remember learning this back when i went to aim

  • @rrrr6863
    @rrrr6863 Рік тому +2

    This reminds me of my Grandfather. He was an airplane mechanic during ww2 and after for ups, a master electrician, AND was HVAC licensed... I got my masters license. They just don't make em like they used to 😅😅

  • @anthonykiefer1797
    @anthonykiefer1797 Рік тому +1

    Gee I wonder why flying is one of the safest ways to travel statistically speaking

  • @mikeknowlden9617
    @mikeknowlden9617 Рік тому +1

    You showed the whip ! Not too many mechs know or understand it. Great job

    • @scottyp2625
      @scottyp2625  Рік тому

      I’ve gotten some hate over the whip.. some guys say it’s cheating or it’s not allowed. I’ve always used it and it hasn’t failed me yet!

    • @mikeknowlden9617
      @mikeknowlden9617 Рік тому +1

      @ScottyP26 same here in my career, but I think of safety wire as an art form. The new cable style is needed (I some areas) but I feel it's cheating. Lol.

  • @johnstewman2238
    @johnstewman2238 Рік тому +2

    Worked on AH-64's and had to to every dayum lock wire by hand. knew those pliers existed but were not aloud by our unit to get or use them.

  • @highjix
    @highjix Рік тому +1

    wow, that was nice, I have never seen how it's done, thanks!

    • @scottyp2625
      @scottyp2625  Рік тому +1

      Yes sir! Thank you for learning!

  • @wannabe_gaming
    @wannabe_gaming Рік тому +1

    That extra twist! IYKYK

  • @treylem3
    @treylem3 Рік тому +1

    I always liked safety wiring bolts while in the USAF, J-33 engine in T-33 aircraft. J-57s in the B52 bomber 👍

  • @kevinfoster2308
    @kevinfoster2308 Рік тому +2

    I tack welded the bolts and nuts on my harbor freight cement mixer

  • @quantumelle
    @quantumelle Рік тому +1

    I just learned something new today. Cool!

  • @thetokugawaclan1003
    @thetokugawaclan1003 Рік тому +2

    god that takes me back when i was in the aircraft mechanic school, cool times until i got bullied there

    • @scottyp2625
      @scottyp2625  Рік тому

      Stab em in the face with a safety wire

  • @ChevalierDuNoir46
    @ChevalierDuNoir46 Рік тому +1

    I appreciate that 7 level twist

    • @scottyp2625
      @scottyp2625  Рік тому

      Some hate it.. I love it. It works great for cinching down that back side

  • @jeremythompson1593
    @jeremythompson1593 Рік тому +1

    That’s wild, never thought about this before…

  • @thorish5033
    @thorish5033 Рік тому +1

    It's so easy on a stand like that. I thought I was so good at safety wire at school while using the stands. Different game all together when you have to safety behind 6 components with 2 inches of clearance. Can't even use the safety wire pliers 😭. Great demo though for sure!

    • @scottyp2625
      @scottyp2625  Рік тому +1

      They gotta build your confidence up before tearing it all down 😂

  • @sublimefreak2244
    @sublimefreak2244 Рік тому +2

    Not only good. Good enough

  • @Ja2808R
    @Ja2808R Рік тому +1

    Thanks. I always wondered how that process was done, had been planning on getting a pair of Milbar pliers in the near future. Can’t have enough random tools for the random times a need arises.

    • @scottyp2625
      @scottyp2625  Рік тому +1

      Milbars are great pliers! Best ones I’ve used so far for sure

  • @TheRealBoredDad
    @TheRealBoredDad Рік тому +1

    Life hacks, I will definitely use this at least three times in the next 30 years.

  • @johnmeikle1477
    @johnmeikle1477 Рік тому +1

    Ya a safety wire guy that knows how to safety wire.