At 70 I’ve realised that the most stressful situation you deal with are the antics of my fellow humans. I practice conscious awareness , most days. It can be small things that can be annoying or occasionally big things. I think about trying to keep calm and being able to immediately identifying those annoyances as they happen. Living your life in conscious way and having the ability to control your emotions for me is a the art of living a long and peaceful happy life.
Saw the movie “marriage story” and there’s one HUGE fight between the husband and wife and SPECIFICALLY Adam drivers part of the argument really Impacted me. I sat there quietly weeping after seeing that scene. So, here I am, learning how to show more emotion, dreaming of becoming an actress
I really like this researcher Paul Ekman because not very long ago, I started using methods like this because I understood that my emotions were chaotic and sometimes dangerous, so I started controlling my emotions and using techniques to delve deeper into myself. Mister Paul Ekman is the first person that talks about these methods and acknowledges that techniques, like the ones I try to use, are beneficial for life.
I used to have pretty bad anger issues when I was younger, but the people around me helped me through it. I still get angry now, but I realise that I'm feeling angry as soon as it starts, then I can start to combat it and feel better.
It hasn't just helped me be a better person, it's helped me better understand other people. It's... still kinda amazing to me what he identified, researched, and published. Which is why I check up on it to make sure I got the story straight. I love it. I think that identifying the faults of those who are great thinkers, helps us better understand them. And helps us better understand and identify faults in ourselves, and others. Being able to see what's not as correct, among what is.
Or let's change things around a bit to trick your brain. Take a step back and try to detach the hate (just for a few seconds) and realize how fortunate you are to be able to experience any emotion including hate. Thanks Buddhism :)
Paul Ekman and his work are absolutely outstanding. Right now finishing his book "Emotions Revealed" a life changing journey!!! And by the way I now know for a fact that most of the psychologists I ever happen to encounter in my life were just bunch of mediocre ones,...
@@Hereforthecomments1I read the book twice it is super interesting and mega helpful. I strongly recomend it. And now rereading another outstanding one called "Influence" The psychology of persuasion (Bob Cialdini).. wow mind blowing stuff both books.. absolutely essential to understand how we humonkeys are wired. Cheers!!!!
This is why we need more communication between artists and scientists. This video could seem enlightening to laypeople but this is common knowledge to any trained actor. It's like how many knew Earth was a globe long before it was accepted.
***** I don't think that was Shane's point. How long did Native Americans know that Aloe was healing before science finally attempted to study it?... I think it's more like what Anthropology points out- the question is one of biggest manipulators to an answer. Anthropology looks at the world as it is, and just gets to know it, before forming a question. I didn't take Shane's comment as a question of the science- but of how long it took for science to look around. I think Ekman is awesome- but I think Shane's comment isn't about the finding, it's about why science as a whole looks so narrowly- causing a lot of scientific study to come around rather slowly. Art and Anthropology could definitely speed up scientific discovery! Science as we've been brought to know it is generally all left brain. Art is generally all right brain. A whole brain will always be most efficient. When we see science and art come together, I think we'll see a massive leap forward in human knowledge and development. And I know I'll be considered completely radical- but when spiritual development is added to this- we will see a whole new paradigm. I honestly think though, that Ekman is one of the rare scientists whose work Has begun this balance of left, right, and spiritual. The whole of his work has an impressive span in this light. Ekman impresses me with how rounded his approach to material is- which is why he has made such fascinating and useful discoveries where many before him simply droned on and on about talk therapy- he's changed the whole field!
Fascinating comment Jennifer. You might be interested in J.Krishnamurti's work, who talked a lot (far beyond just intellectually) about the WHOLE human being, the merger of the religious and the scientific mind.
Every successful salesperson already knows this stuff: You affect a positive expression to inspire your potential customer, and it also inspires you yourself.
+AlterEgoKEB Smiling for the sake of smiling causes emotional exhaustion, and withdraw. But thinking of pleasant thoughts or change the perspective of which you view what you are doing and having happy thoughts because of that are a more effective way and healthy way or having the same affect. www.livescience.com/47227-when-smiling-is-bad-for-you.html metro.co.uk/2011/02/24/fake-smiles-could-cause-depression-says-michigan-state-university-study-640802/ www.futurity.org/dont-bring-your-fake-smile-to-work/ www.teenboardingschools.com/alternativesummercamps/news/study-faking-a-smile-can-lead-to-sadness-withdrawal-04062.html
Evolution doesn't by itself dictate every action that we make - he's making the case that we use that connection between expression and emotion to control our own emotions, when it wasn't evolved for that purpose. Thus, outsmarting evolution - though it is bombastic way of saying it
Hes talking about being aware of, and responding to the currently evolved emotional reaction. You can outsmart that. Yes, in a sense anything you change/overcome/create in the mind is evolving it, but overcoming/manipulating our standard pre-programmed responses is what hes getting at.
I really liked the talk as well! He did address the issue you are mentioning when he used an example, wherein participants were reflective about the emotion, and then reacted to the situation. If one can reign control the emotion by consciously throwing another face on, to bide time, one can properly reflect upon the original emotion. Personally having a history of habitual repression, I experience a lack of emotions in most situations - priming myself gets me engaged.
I believe this is true for much more than facial expressions. Muscles throughout our bodies seem to change for our emotional state, and relaxing or tensing them in the correct way might do a similar thing to this, at least that's what I've been discovering. The very way we are being reflects in our emotional state, or perhaps our emotions are an accumulation of our entire bodily state represented as a singular qualitative feeling, for the sake of understanding that vast information more easily. . though it's really not easy to do.
I have been using fake smiles all my life and have found that people do read your eyes before anything else most often. And if you aren't smiling with your eyes they realize you don't mean the smile. And I figured out how to fake smiles a long time ago. I often have to try to project the feeling of a smile to my eyes. It's difficult to explain. I've always found it kind of easy to read what other's are feeling and what to do and how to act to get the best reaction out of them. What to refrain from doing and what things please them the most and how you present yourself around them. I've learned to do that to fit others simply by reading their feelings and their body language. I met a psychiatrist once and asked them what they could tell about me. She told me that I was really good at faking a smile right off the bat. And that she is also very good at it so she recognized it. And that I'm often times very upset and I try not to show it. Which is true. And she could read it because she knew how to by feeling the same way and learning about it. I think I know what he is trying to describe on the muscles to use around your eyes when using a fake smile. It's is the bottom lid area and the outer corner of the eyes as well as a slight squint to your eyes. Kind of feels like you are lifting your eyes into a smile while also projecting kindness and happiness to that person through your eyes.
Flabber Gasted sometimes, I get lucky and align the joke in my head, perfectly with my interactions. My eyes are smiling but it's genuinely not for that person.
His idea is for the individual to manipulate his/her own emotions, and focus on that self-generated feeling. This way a person can become more aware of the distinct difference between HOW you feel and WHY you feel that way. You can do that at home with or without the facial expressions. Just takes meditation. Heavily consider how you feel. What caused the feeling and what would dispel it? How reasonable was your response? how conditioned is your perspective? Learn yourself to improve yourself.
Crazy how at some point in life you realize that problems don’t really exist. Only situations that require decisions and every decision will have a different outcome and that outcome only matters to you depending on what your goal is. But your life decisions and experiences won’t matter much in a decade or two.
I love Eckman, and I still find myself double checking the work he published on wikipedia etc to make sure he really did the groundbreaking research I love most. I want it to be true, so I keep making sure I get it. We're still human, however. With our faults and failings, alongside our feats of pretty epic insight like his. I find his treatment of, and deference to bhuddism and the dali lama to be his most apparent fault. And that's only an issue to me due to my overexposure to his work :P
I'm no expert but yeah! I do like it very much. With Dr. Ekman's book it's easy for me to understand complicated things that I never got from other psychology books. There is an excerpt of a taped interview between Dr. Ekman & his holiness the 14th Dali Lama. I listened to it & although it wasn't the full in length version it just blew my mind. I'm not Buddhist but that conversation resonated with me. It helped to reaffirm things that I've learned on my own as well as new perspectives. :)
I get what you are saying, but I have bipolar disorder, and my life has been a struggle with what I call "inappropriate emotions". Sometimes what I am feeling is not really relevant to the situation. I used to try and justify them to myself and others, but as I get older, I see that sometimes the emotional centers of the brain can just get things wrong, like a skipped heartbeat. Like he was talking about the toast and the misunderstood gesture. When "appropriate", the feelings are truer.
Only consistency and effort are rewarded when you're trying to change yourself. The only advice I can offer is to continually try to improve yourself and from the same mindspace. If your approach differs everytime it will be weaker because your mind is not ready or practiced, and you will have no comparisons available to you. I try to sit at the foreground of my emotions, to excite them by expression, but then to quell them control of the expression (usually in the length of the sustain).
The most tricky part in this equation is whether our conscious conclusions about our emotions are of better quality than the emotions they judge. I think in same cases this is clearly the case, but I also suspect that with good intentions in mind, we can negatively prime our emotional system (e.g. decide to habitually suppress 'negative' emotions that point to an important issue). Nothing against his talk though, he was humble and his points about emotional awareness are very valuable.
While I agree with the gist of what you're saying, there's no reason to stop someone from smiling at a funeral lol. Maybe a happy thought comes up and you just happen to smile and reminisce in the memory. Plus, he's not saying you should smile at a funeral, he's saying you shouldn't break down so bad and cry like most people probably would, because too much sadness, believe it or not, can be a bad thing for you.
Ekman accepts the traditional view that there are specific emotions which are identifiable from facial expressions. Expressions provide a speculative indication of a variety of feelings but do not prove relationship specifically to a specific feeling (emotion as he describes it). His set of photographs used in psychology literature show e.g. one face which can represent fear or surprise, another disgust, resentment, disapproval or taking offence,, another joy, approval or amusement,
Yes, youre right :) I just practice Vipassana and couldn't think of a better way to express in words about what it is. Therefore, took the short-cut of cut-paste from the official dhamma website. I think you meant the book titled "Whereever you go There you are" sounds like a good book... I will surely read it.
You pointed out the muscle around the eyes being important in activating enjoyment. I think, think... I may have figured out the muscle. Its a struggle to do it. Lol. My whole face is contorted, but it evokes the emotion. Just started trying this. Will see. Ty
+abschussrampe and do you think your square and small minded...bored comment isn't less boring? Go breath some air...don't be so angry with someone you don't know. What do you earn fighting me? what's your point...mm? just being another hateful ass sitting on the other side reading a comment I wrote in may 2015! AND you even answer it...poor you probably had a. bad..."day"Pffff...
Silvia Yiyi Actually, I was simply trying to be funny, but like many other nerds instead of actually ending up funny I just offended someone. I will just go crawl back into the hole I came from.
+abschussrampe Ahjjjj please don't try manipulation. Next time if you want to be a comedian be funny not trying to minimize someone you don't even know, and just end up being a stereotype...and if you're used to use guilt, sorry, childish boring lines again...
... we still use those evolutionary reaction mechanisms to handle situations to the point where *can* become unconscious of what we are actually doing, or emoting.
Yes! I can consciously generate the eye movement that's necessary for joy! I just tried it! It works. I find that interesting because I've never been one to fake a smile (or trust anyone who would), always understanding that the telltale eye movement is crucial.
Fascinating discovery. Good to know. Great concept. Similarly, some Botox clients experience a change in personality, because their face is paralyzed and the muscles can no longer form an appropriate expression of emotion.
This is what Buddha taught some 2,500 years ago. Th technique is called Vipassana. Vipassana is a way of self-transformation through self-observation. It focuses on the deep interconnection between mind and body, which can be experienced directly by disciplined attention to the physical sensations that form the life of the body, and that continuously interconnect and condition the life of the mind.
I am the one proving you have a Maker because working mechanisms always have an ultimate Maker. You are the one not proving objects made you, without being directed.
Honestly, I'm not too keen on the idea of controlling your emotions. Evidently it has its benefits, but at the same time, I believe there's a distinction between rational and emotional decisions for a reason. Maybe we do need better control over what our emotions do to us, but at the same time facing them on such a rational front, to me, seems to dehumanize them a little. Or maybe overhumanize them.
A lot of doubters in the comments but I agree with him, not in the absolute sense that facial features will completely rewire your emotions but they do have a *strong* effect. Another discovery is that body language immiedately changes perception of ones self. We are social animals, and more so than any other mammal the social influence on us is a fundemental part of our emotional structure. Your facial features and physical language is half the battle. "Perception is Everything."
I agree with the adaptive model, and that we cannot really know a "truth" for sure (in the context of limited human understanding). There is too much absurdity in the "logic" of human nature, and I am fully aware of this, but because of my conscious awareness, it makes it difficult for me to find ideas such as Ekman's incredibly exciting. Ideas only excite me when I believe it them to be helpful, and the only time I can discern between good and bad is when I'm not dwelling on this absurd reality
Damn, I learn more cool stuff listening to Big Think and TED Talks than I ever learned sitting in a college classroom. Now that all the bookstores are closed and I can't sit around and read books and drink coffee all afternoon, it's nice to have the net. And when I really get to missing books, there will always be used bookstores. Public libraries are lame and the books are always 15 years behind the times.
I looked this up because I realised that changing facial expressions changes the way I feel iv Been using this in daily life I just wanted to see if it is actually common.
Same here, i sometimes just smile to myself at the mirror, make it bigger and make it seems more and more natural, and i start to feel it and even giggle a bit :D I learned it myself :) Without a mirror is harder though, because u need a great facial expression awareness to make a big smile that seems natural, i guess it's a thing for practice :)
My sadness/anger is also gone for no cause. A close aunt passed away and I didn't feel anything. My parents separated a month later and I didn't feel anything.
+Pure Villainy Could be just simply what I have with my relatives, not connected at all. Or it can be just the feeling you can have that day(not caring) and when ever your aunt comes to mind, you automatically link that 'i don't care' to that experience. Personally I don't feel anything for anything much really, but that is because I distant myself from the ordinary life and live in isolation.
+Pure Villainy lol thats a sign of denial and or depression. and just because you think your not depressed doesn't mean your not. I've seen people who say they are not depressed and they think they aren't becasue they say they aren't sad. But in reality they are so far in denial they made them self's believe it. But it always shows in the persons behavior, later on weather its they stop caring about there school work or stop caring about them selfs. worst part is they never realize why and stay in denial.
+John Doe- I think it could be a lack a sadness toward a situation. So to say, you're not sad over the fact that you'll never see that person again or that you'll never get to talk to them. Maybe your glad that you got spend time with them while you still could and that you're not focused on that they're gone and dead. Perhaps it's a matter on what you're focusing on at the moment come later you focus on a different matter that was about the same moment before. Maybe then you would have different feelings. Just a theory.
A body-psychotherapist whose books I've read used to describe what would happen when they would videotape his clients during varied or specific interactions during group therapy: people would be awed by what they'd see on video: themselves! Comments like, "My gosh! I can't believe that's really me!" were common. They were seeing for the first time what had never been possible for them to see so far: their own reactions and over-reactions, their prejudicial attitudes, etc.
Humans evolved in order to survive animal attacks and other hazardous earthly endeavors. This caused nature to build into our physiology reaction mechanisms that could be actuated without use of our conscious thoughts. Much like you'd dodge a ball in dodgeball, avoid a car accident, or even have an argument with your boss/friend etc, we still use those evolutionary reaction mechanisms to handle situations to the point where we become unconscious of what we are actually doing, or emoting.
I use the whole what ever expression you have will make you feel a certain way thing for years, just like if im not sad and i'm with my friend at a funeral for say their grandma, but i am there as a friend for emotional support , i will assume a slightly saddened face and then feel a sort of very faint sadness that allows me to fit in and act in that mind set so that they feel i really do feel bad for them. when really i am just there because my friend asked me to be there, and im nice so i do what they ask. (i know this may make me seem cold but its just how i am)
You just make a float and sink generator and make a deep hole besida your house and fill it with water, then you let the generator sink and float continuesly in the waterhole and generate electricity thru a propeller that spins by the resistance in the water. Just push in a bit of air from the bottom to make it float to the surface again to restart it.
Ouspensky wrote: We aren't fully conscious,("awake"), over 7 minutes at a time. Convincing subjective evidence: With a soundless timer; 1/Sit in quiet room w/no distractions. 2/Choose phrase, (ex: "I'm here"), to hold in your mind. 4/ At some point the phrase will -come back- to you. You'll then realize it -left- you for at least a moment. 4/Check timer. ///The point: We mustmake the most of conscious thought to rehearse skills, thus enabling them to continue thru our unconscious moments.
At 70 I’ve realised that the most stressful situation you deal with are the antics of my fellow humans. I practice conscious awareness , most days. It can be small things that can be annoying or occasionally big things. I think about trying to keep calm and being able to immediately identifying those annoyances as they happen.
Living your life in conscious way and having the ability to control your emotions for me is a the art of living a long and peaceful happy life.
Saw the movie “marriage story” and there’s one HUGE fight between the husband and wife and SPECIFICALLY Adam drivers part of the argument really Impacted me. I sat there quietly weeping after seeing that scene. So, here I am, learning how to show more emotion, dreaming of becoming an actress
Ive been waiting for someone to put that into words so eloquently for a very long time. thank you!
Everyone relax he's just reminding people of the importance of situational and self awareness...
I really like this researcher Paul Ekman because not very long ago, I started using methods like this because I understood that my emotions were chaotic and sometimes dangerous, so I started controlling my emotions and using techniques to delve deeper into myself. Mister Paul Ekman is the first person that talks about these methods and acknowledges that techniques, like the ones I try to use, are beneficial for life.
Wow, this has happened to me in the past. I'll be super stressed out but if I smile for long enough I begin to actually feel happy.
Paul Ekman is who tough as how to control and generate our emotions ,that's why I fell so thankful to him.
I used to have pretty bad anger issues when I was younger, but the people around me helped me through it. I still get angry now, but I realise that I'm feeling angry as soon as it starts, then I can start to combat it and feel better.
It hasn't just helped me be a better person, it's helped me better understand other people.
It's... still kinda amazing to me what he identified, researched, and published. Which is why I check up on it to make sure I got the story straight. I love it.
I think that identifying the faults of those who are great thinkers, helps us better understand them. And helps us better understand and identify faults in ourselves, and others.
Being able to see what's not as correct, among what is.
IVE BEEN FORCING A SMILE FOR 3 DAYS STRAIGHT BUT I STILL HATE MYSELF EXPLAIN YOURSELF GUY
Taylor The Warlock , think about what ur grateful for. Feel how lucky you are right this second. 😌
LOL "guy"...This "guy" is like a celebrity in psychology
Or let's change things around a bit to trick your brain. Take a step back and try to detach the hate (just for a few seconds) and realize how fortunate you are to be able to experience any emotion including hate. Thanks Buddhism :)
You've got to do the eye thing too! Remember him talking about that too?
You funny 😂 that’s exactly why you still hate yourself
First speaker that talk with conviction.
Paul Ekman and his work are absolutely outstanding. Right now finishing his book "Emotions Revealed" a life changing journey!!! And by the way I now know for a fact that most of the psychologists I ever happen to encounter in my life were just bunch of mediocre ones,...
Hey 9 months later how was the book what were your take a aways? I was just lookin at his books yesterday
@@Hereforthecomments1I read the book twice it is super interesting and mega helpful. I strongly recomend it. And now rereading another outstanding one called "Influence" The psychology of persuasion (Bob Cialdini).. wow mind blowing stuff both books.. absolutely essential to understand how we humonkeys are wired. Cheers!!!!
@@migmagingenieria oh awesome man thanks a lot! Definitely gonna check it out
This is why we need more communication between artists and scientists. This video could seem enlightening to laypeople but this is common knowledge to any trained actor. It's like how many knew Earth was a globe long before it was accepted.
A Globe? Where's the stand?
*****
I don't think that was Shane's point. How long did Native Americans know that Aloe was healing before science finally attempted to study it?... I think it's more like what Anthropology points out- the question is one of biggest manipulators to an answer. Anthropology looks at the world as it is, and just gets to know it, before forming a question. I didn't take Shane's comment as a question of the science- but of how long it took for science to look around. I think Ekman is awesome- but I think Shane's comment isn't about the finding, it's about why science as a whole looks so narrowly- causing a lot of scientific study to come around rather slowly. Art and Anthropology could definitely speed up scientific discovery! Science as we've been brought to know it is generally all left brain. Art is generally all right brain. A whole brain will always be most efficient. When we see science and art come together, I think we'll see a massive leap forward in human knowledge and development. And I know I'll be considered completely radical- but when spiritual development is added to this- we will see a whole new paradigm. I honestly think though, that Ekman is one of the rare scientists whose work Has begun this balance of left, right, and spiritual. The whole of his work has an impressive span in this light. Ekman impresses me with how rounded his approach to material is- which is why he has made such fascinating and useful discoveries where many before him simply droned on and on about talk therapy- he's changed the whole field!
Fascinating comment Jennifer. You might be interested in J.Krishnamurti's work, who talked a lot (far beyond just intellectually) about the WHOLE human being, the merger of the religious and the scientific mind.
This youtube channel needs more of this guy.
Every successful salesperson already knows this stuff: You affect a positive expression to inspire your potential customer, and it also inspires you yourself.
Only emotion I feel like I can control is anger, which I've become great at. But I can never control myself to be happy or excited.
Huh. I can. You need to keep trying because it's really just developing a feel for it
I highly recommend Ekman’s book ‘Emotions Revealed’. You’ll never look at other people in quite the same way again.
Probably get more chicks if we took off our shirts.
What it is written abt plz rply
The KEY is people should know them self very well and being observant and well aware in everything, it's a practice.
What he's describing here is mindfulness.
I tend to just smile for no reason in the morning, not because i am happy, but because it makes me happy.
+AlterEgoKEB thats a great habit to have brother, i plan to incorporate it into my routine.
+AlterEgoKEB Smiling for the sake of smiling causes emotional exhaustion, and withdraw. But thinking of pleasant thoughts or change the perspective of which you view what you are doing and having happy thoughts because of that are a more effective way and healthy way or having the same affect.
www.livescience.com/47227-when-smiling-is-bad-for-you.html
metro.co.uk/2011/02/24/fake-smiles-could-cause-depression-says-michigan-state-university-study-640802/
www.futurity.org/dont-bring-your-fake-smile-to-work/
www.teenboardingschools.com/alternativesummercamps/news/study-faking-a-smile-can-lead-to-sadness-withdrawal-04062.html
Great Video ❤❤❤❤
This video is important. Show it to everybody.
Evolution doesn't by itself dictate every action that we make - he's making the case that we use that connection between expression and emotion to control our own emotions, when it wasn't evolved for that purpose. Thus, outsmarting evolution - though it is bombastic way of saying it
I've used these insights for over a decade. To quote the Dali Lama : "...sometimes your smile is the cause of your happiness".
Hes talking about being aware of, and responding to the currently evolved emotional reaction. You can outsmart that. Yes, in a sense anything you change/overcome/create in the mind is evolving it, but overcoming/manipulating our standard pre-programmed responses is what hes getting at.
I really liked the talk as well! He did address the issue you are mentioning when he used an example, wherein participants were reflective about the emotion, and then reacted to the situation. If one can reign control the emotion by consciously throwing another face on, to bide time, one can properly reflect upon the original emotion.
Personally having a history of habitual repression, I experience a lack of emotions in most situations - priming myself gets me engaged.
more of ekman please
I believe this is true for much more than facial expressions. Muscles throughout our bodies seem to change for our emotional state, and relaxing or tensing them in the correct way might do a similar thing to this, at least that's what I've been discovering. The very way we are being reflects in our emotional state, or perhaps our emotions are an accumulation of our entire bodily state represented as a singular qualitative feeling, for the sake of understanding that vast information more easily. . though it's really not easy to do.
Is it just me or is he just very likable? I kept smiling while he was talking.He just seems like a really calm and friendly person
THIS...is an idea that will foster optimism and a happier person.
Wow this is literally the best video I have ever watched, thanks to anyone who participated in making and uploading this great video,,,
I have been using fake smiles all my life and have found that people do read your eyes before anything else most often. And if you aren't smiling with your eyes they realize you don't mean the smile. And I figured out how to fake smiles a long time ago. I often have to try to project the feeling of a smile to my eyes. It's difficult to explain. I've always found it kind of easy to read what other's are feeling and what to do and how to act to get the best reaction out of them. What to refrain from doing and what things please them the most and how you present yourself around them. I've learned to do that to fit others simply by reading their feelings and their body language. I met a psychiatrist once and asked them what they could tell about me. She told me that I was really good at faking a smile right off the bat. And that she is also very good at it so she recognized it. And that I'm often times very upset and I try not to show it. Which is true. And she could read it because she knew how to by feeling the same way and learning about it. I think I know what he is trying to describe on the muscles to use around your eyes when using a fake smile. It's is the bottom lid area and the outer corner of the eyes as well as a slight squint to your eyes. Kind of feels like you are lifting your eyes into a smile while also projecting kindness and happiness to that person through your eyes.
Flabber Gasted sometimes, I get lucky and align the joke in my head, perfectly with my interactions. My eyes are smiling but it's genuinely not for that person.
Paul Ekman is my idol. I cant believe this is the first time im seeing him on youtube.
Just..shame on me.
Directed working mechanisms always have an ultimate Maker, it is an awesome thing!
His idea is for the individual to manipulate his/her own emotions, and focus on that self-generated feeling. This way a person can become more aware of the distinct difference between HOW you feel and WHY you feel that way.
You can do that at home with or without the facial expressions. Just takes meditation. Heavily consider how you feel. What caused the feeling and what would dispel it? How reasonable was your response? how conditioned is your perspective? Learn yourself to improve yourself.
Emotions are derived from evolution. In the small duration of our lifespan, we don't just create the ability to control such a primordial intuition.
This is an amazing subject. A new science - controlling your emotions thru controlling your facial expressions.
Crazy how at some point in life you realize that problems don’t really exist. Only situations that require decisions and every decision will have a different outcome and that outcome only matters to you depending on what your goal is. But your life decisions and experiences won’t matter much in a decade or two.
I love Eckman, and I still find myself double checking the work he published on wikipedia etc to make sure he really did the groundbreaking research I love most. I want it to be true, so I keep making sure I get it.
We're still human, however. With our faults and failings, alongside our feats of pretty epic insight like his.
I find his treatment of, and deference to bhuddism and the dali lama to be his most apparent fault. And that's only an issue to me due to my overexposure to his work :P
I'm no expert but yeah! I do like it very much. With Dr. Ekman's book it's easy for me to understand complicated things that I never got from other psychology books. There is an excerpt of a taped interview between Dr. Ekman & his holiness the 14th Dali Lama. I listened to it & although it wasn't the full in length version it just blew my mind. I'm not Buddhist but that conversation resonated with me. It helped to reaffirm things that I've learned on my own as well as new perspectives. :)
I get what you are saying, but I have bipolar disorder, and my life has been a struggle with what I call "inappropriate emotions". Sometimes what I am feeling is not really relevant to the situation. I used to try and justify them to myself and others, but as I get older, I see that sometimes the emotional centers of the brain can just get things wrong, like a skipped heartbeat. Like he was talking about the toast and the misunderstood gesture. When "appropriate", the feelings are truer.
When I cry I always smile and I think that helps a little.
You made laugh 🥰.., your too much genuine to practice those🇵🇭
Only consistency and effort are rewarded when you're trying to change yourself. The only advice I can offer is to continually try to improve yourself and from the same mindspace. If your approach differs everytime it will be weaker because your mind is not ready or practiced, and you will have no comparisons available to you. I try to sit at the foreground of my emotions, to excite them by expression, but then to quell them control of the expression (usually in the length of the sustain).
I miss the show "Lie to Me" :(
I absolutely love that show!
The most tricky part in this equation is whether our conscious conclusions about our emotions are of better quality than the emotions they judge. I think in same cases this is clearly the case, but I also suspect that with good intentions in mind, we can negatively prime our emotional system (e.g. decide to habitually suppress 'negative' emotions that point to an important issue).
Nothing against his talk though, he was humble and his points about emotional awareness are very valuable.
Hardly. Hardly the only path to self-enlightenment - but, yes, it's important to move in the positive direction of self-control.
come on bigthink, paul ekman is an true revolutionary. only 4 minutes?
Thank you for this.
While I agree with the gist of what you're saying, there's no reason to stop someone from smiling at a funeral lol. Maybe a happy thought comes up and you just happen to smile and reminisce in the memory. Plus, he's not saying you should smile at a funeral, he's saying you shouldn't break down so bad and cry like most people probably would, because too much sadness, believe it or not, can be a bad thing for you.
I would give so much to meet Paul Ekman
Ekman accepts the traditional view that there are specific emotions which are identifiable from facial expressions. Expressions provide a speculative indication of a variety of feelings but do not prove relationship specifically to a specific feeling (emotion as he describes it). His set of photographs used in psychology literature show e.g. one face which can represent fear or surprise, another disgust, resentment, disapproval or taking offence,, another joy, approval or amusement,
Yes, youre right :) I just practice Vipassana and couldn't think of a better way to express in words about what it is. Therefore, took the short-cut of cut-paste from the official dhamma website. I think you meant the book titled "Whereever you go There you are" sounds like a good book... I will surely read it.
You pointed out the muscle around the eyes being important in activating enjoyment. I think, think... I may have figured out the muscle. Its a struggle to do it. Lol. My whole face is contorted, but it evokes the emotion. Just started trying this. Will see. Ty
I love these vids
The universally interchangeable working elements are directed inside of you and you can't ever have direction without a Director.
Doing the facial expressions to manage my emotions? That's what I have been doing naturally since I learnt about those facial expressions.
I understand so well what you are saying Dr. Ekman...that my chest hurts...damn...I really need to excersice.
+Silvia Yiyi Please keep talking about your chest; it sounds like a very interesting topic.
+abschussrampe and do you think your square and small minded...bored comment isn't less boring? Go breath some air...don't be so angry with someone you don't know. What do you earn fighting me? what's your point...mm? just being another hateful ass sitting on the other side reading a comment I wrote in may 2015! AND you even answer it...poor you probably had a. bad..."day"Pffff...
+abschussrampe oh wait you are ironic! woww...clap clap congratulations you are so original... LOL
Silvia Yiyi Actually, I was simply trying to be funny, but like many other nerds instead of actually ending up funny I just offended someone.
I will just go crawl back into the hole I came from.
+abschussrampe Ahjjjj please don't try manipulation. Next time if you want to be a comedian be funny not trying to minimize someone you don't even know, and just end up being a stereotype...and if you're used to use guilt, sorry, childish boring lines again...
... we still use those evolutionary reaction mechanisms to handle situations to the point where *can* become unconscious of what we are actually doing, or emoting.
Physical experience, like wound, is how you perceive it. Emotions are also perceived.
The Evolution of the eye is very well understood thank you very much.
It was someone else that was talking about popularity.
I was just saying they were wrong.
Objects cannot make you, without being directed.
Yes! I can consciously generate the eye movement that's necessary for joy! I just tried it! It works.
I find that interesting because I've never been one to fake a smile (or trust anyone who would), always understanding that the telltale eye movement is crucial.
fuzzyone99 is there a difference in faking a smile for other people and faking a smile to inner depression?
Fascinating discovery. Good to know. Great concept.
Similarly, some Botox clients experience a change in personality, because their face is paralyzed and the muscles can no longer form an appropriate expression of emotion.
Couldn't agree more Carol.
Thanks, I'll check it out.
Conscious Awareness!!! 2thumbs up!
This is what Buddha taught some 2,500 years ago. Th technique is called Vipassana. Vipassana is a way of self-transformation through self-observation. It focuses on the deep interconnection between mind and body, which can be experienced directly by disciplined attention to the physical sensations that form the life of the body, and that continuously interconnect and condition the life of the mind.
I am the one proving you have a Maker because working mechanisms always have an ultimate Maker.
You are the one not proving objects made you, without being directed.
Honestly, I'm not too keen on the idea of controlling your emotions. Evidently it has its benefits, but at the same time, I believe there's a distinction between rational and emotional decisions for a reason. Maybe we do need better control over what our emotions do to us, but at the same time facing them on such a rational front, to me, seems to dehumanize them a little. Or maybe overhumanize them.
A lot of doubters in the comments but I agree with him, not in the absolute sense that facial features will completely rewire your emotions but they do have a *strong* effect.
Another discovery is that body language immiedately changes perception of ones self.
We are social animals, and more so than any other mammal the social influence on us is a fundemental part of our emotional structure. Your facial features and physical language is half the battle. "Perception is Everything."
I agree with the adaptive model, and that we cannot really know a "truth" for sure (in the context of limited human understanding). There is too much absurdity in the "logic" of human nature, and I am fully aware of this, but because of my conscious awareness, it makes it difficult for me to find ideas such as Ekman's incredibly exciting. Ideas only excite me when I believe it them to be helpful, and the only time I can discern between good and bad is when I'm not dwelling on this absurd reality
Damn, I learn more cool stuff listening to Big Think and TED Talks than I ever learned sitting in a college classroom. Now that all the bookstores are closed and I can't sit around and read books and drink coffee all afternoon, it's nice to have the net. And when I really get to missing books, there will always be used bookstores. Public libraries are lame and the books are always 15 years behind the times.
I looked this up because I realised that changing facial expressions changes the way I feel iv Been using this in daily life I just wanted to see if it is actually common.
Same here, i sometimes just smile to myself at the mirror, make it bigger and make it seems more and more natural, and i start to feel it and even giggle a bit :D I learned it myself :)
Without a mirror is harder though, because u need a great facial expression awareness to make a big smile that seems natural, i guess it's a thing for practice :)
I guess this explains why I smile all the time for no apparent reason. :D
That's kind of a bold statement. How do you know matter cannot make or program itself?
Paul Ekman is right. He is absolutely right. :-)
My sadness/anger is also gone for no cause. A close aunt passed away and I didn't feel anything. My parents separated a month later and I didn't feel anything.
+Pure Villainy Could be just simply what I have with my relatives, not connected at all. Or it can be just the feeling you can have that day(not caring) and when ever your aunt comes to mind, you automatically link that 'i don't care' to that experience. Personally I don't feel anything for anything much really, but that is because I distant myself from the ordinary life and live in isolation.
+Pure Villainy lol thats a sign of denial and or depression. and just because you think your not depressed doesn't mean your not. I've seen people who say they are not depressed and they think they aren't becasue they say they aren't sad. But in reality they are so far in denial they made them self's believe it. But it always shows in the persons behavior, later on weather its they stop caring about there school work or stop caring about them selfs. worst part is they never realize why and stay in denial.
+John Doe-
I think it could be a lack a sadness toward a situation. So to say, you're not sad over the fact that you'll never see that person again or that you'll never get to talk to them. Maybe your glad that you got spend time with them while you still could and that you're not focused on that they're gone and dead. Perhaps it's a matter on what you're focusing on at the moment come later you focus on a different matter that was about the same moment before. Maybe then you would have different feelings. Just a theory.
Its very hard to do but like anything else it can be accomplished with practice.
Reminds me of the Bene Gesserit in Frank Herbert's Dune who were supposed to have complete mastery over their emotions and body language.
A body-psychotherapist whose books I've read used to describe what would happen when they would videotape his clients during varied or specific interactions during group therapy: people would be awed by what they'd see on video: themselves! Comments like, "My gosh! I can't believe that's really me!" were common. They were seeing for the first time what had never been possible for them to see so far: their own reactions and over-reactions, their prejudicial attitudes, etc.
Wow; you sure put that well.
This video needs to be re-introduced every month.
Mega like to this video! Thanks for sharing.
Humans evolved in order to survive animal attacks and other hazardous earthly endeavors. This caused nature to build into our physiology reaction mechanisms that could be actuated without use of our conscious thoughts. Much like you'd dodge a ball in dodgeball, avoid a car accident, or even have an argument with your boss/friend etc, we still use those evolutionary reaction mechanisms to handle situations to the point where we become unconscious of what we are actually doing, or emoting.
Noted. I advise people to be careful of what they're...provoking.
You took the words right out of my mouth . I was thinking " It sounds like
Insight Meditation " .
Psychology is just that awesome, am I right?
Soooo right!
I use the whole what ever expression you have will make you feel a certain way thing for years, just like if im not sad and i'm with my friend at a funeral for say their grandma, but i am there as a friend for emotional support , i will assume a slightly saddened face and then feel a sort of very faint sadness that allows me to fit in and act in that mind set so that they feel i really do feel bad for them. when really i am just there because my friend asked me to be there, and im nice so i do what they ask. (i know this may make me seem cold but its just how i am)
It does indeed take lots of practice :P
we touched a bit on that during my study of synergology
What is the first exercise to practice? Is there a list that we should be trying out?
You cannot control emotions, or thoughts per sei.
Knowing that they will pass, not giving them meaning, is how we transcend.
You just make a float and sink generator and make a deep hole besida your house and fill it with water, then you let the generator sink and float continuesly in the waterhole and generate electricity thru a propeller that spins by the resistance in the water. Just push in a bit of air from the bottom to make it float to the surface again to restart it.
I want this guy to be my psychologist.
I love this stuff.
What exercises? Is there a link? thanks
I'm in the 10%!
Thank Ekman :)
Ouspensky wrote: We aren't fully conscious,("awake"), over 7 minutes at a time. Convincing subjective evidence: With a soundless timer; 1/Sit in quiet room w/no distractions. 2/Choose phrase, (ex: "I'm here"), to hold in your mind. 4/ At some point the phrase will -come back- to you. You'll then realize it -left- you for at least a moment. 4/Check timer. ///The point: We mustmake the most of conscious thought to rehearse skills, thus enabling them to continue thru our unconscious moments.