FNAF MOVIE THEORY - Mike can still be an AFTON
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- Опубліковано 18 тра 2024
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CHAPTERS:
0:00 Donate to the Palestinian Children's Relief Fund!
0:30 Introduction
1:10 Afton / Schmidt Family Parallels
2:35 Setting the scene (William's backstory)
3:20 William Knew Garrett
3:53 Vanessa and Mike are very similar
4:40 Michael Schmidt?
5:20 Henry is not Mike's Dad (maybe)
6:31 Wrapping things up
7:39 Credits
MUSIC/SOUND EFFECTS USED:
Eisoptrophobia - FNAF Ultimate Custom Night OST
Creme De La Creme - Freddy Fazbear's Pizzaria Simulator OST
Venta Black - FNAF Sister Location OST
Bite and Ding sound affect under public domain
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Adobe Premiere Pro - editing
Voice recordings done on an IPhone
Movie footage taken legally from Peacock
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Thanks for all the support! Currently as I'm writing this the video is at 1.3k views in only 4 days which is absolutely nuts to me. Its been so much fun reading everyone's theories and speculating with y'all... some of the stuff y'all are thinking about is really interesting!
I think its time for me to get back on Premiere and make something else. Might not be FNAF related, but will definitely still be a theory. I love analysis after all!
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you are underrated
I agree with wanting to help children who have nothing to do with the war, but Hamas and Palestine don't deserve support as organizations.
Honestly I looked at your channel and wow it really sky rocketed from writing the theories of the movie. Congratulations to Sudden fame! Haha
Alright here me out I may be crazy what if vannessa in the movie was a robot… kind of like one theory from fuhnaff I think where vannessa is one of the four versions of his daughter. It’s crazy but I’m too lazy to do research for it
Nvm it was Henry that made the robots not afton but he did steal her. Also W video
Most people failed to realize that the movie is actually closely to the First Book, Silver Eyes
I read all the books, we are both well educated brother
And the books are tied to the games. It's all the same story but different events have caused the story to diverge from the same starting point but they all keep coming back to certain events.
@@mesaplayer9636those are the canon events of the FNAF universes
@@proallnighter yeah that's basically what my brother said. Like William getting spring trapped, William suffering the fate of ultimate custom night, 5 kids getting killed at the pizzeria.
@@mesaplayer9636
I don’t see how they are similar, besides a similar backstory, SpringTrap and Baby.
I honestly could see that reveal down the line later. Though, I'm scared that Vanessa could return as Vanny in a future installment.
but isnt security breach like a billion years in the future
@@e-1074about 40-50
@@e-1074it could technically be in 2035 or 2046 and still make somewhat sense if they replaced all the actors
@@homespace1268 what? people love Vanny, they just fumbled the execution in SB
@@homespace1268 you’re underestimating Scott. He’s had so much time to think this out and has written so many scripts, it’ll make sense in due time.
Just imagine William pulling a "No, I am your father" on Mike full on Darth Vader mode lmao
i still can't believe people went as far to reach for "abby" being short for "elizabeth", when it already could be an anagram for "baby". You don't need to reach that far guys 😂😂
Abby is a nickname for Elizabeth
@@Just-yx6rv it is absolutely not
@@mylam658 yes it is search it up if you don't believe me
This is FNAF, pretty sure reaching extremely far is the name of the game - and sometimes it's worked lol
@@hamingnu6610 that is true
Unless it was a targeted kill, it doesnt make sense for William to drive to Nebraska, specifically where Mike's family is camping, to kill one child, and then do all of his other crimes in Minnesota, specifically the city where Mike lives
Also yes, the film does take place in minnesota, as evidenced by Jane's court papers mentioning Minnesota state law and Minnesota courts
Even if Mike isn't an Afton or Emily, he is connected to William Afton in one way or another beyond the dead brother
If you want more copium/reaching for this theory, tumblr user oddidas has pointed out an interesting detail in the opening sequence with the atari animation, Josh Hutcherson's name flickers purple, but goes back red (along with Mary Stuart Masterson's name doing the same). Elizabeth Lail's and Mathew Lillard's name flickers purple and stays purple. Meanwhile, Piper Rubio's name only flickers between red and orange, no purple... Which might also be implying Mike is an Afton, though it does mean that Aunt Jane might also have a connection William, interestingly enough. Makes me wonder if she's an ex-sister-in-law, hence why she can't exactly get Abby.
Also, it has been pointed out that Mike's dad in the photo on the night stand, is doing bunny ears to young Mike, which is another interesting detail.
Though as for the whole not knowing Freddy's thing, there's always the possibility that Mike has repressed quite a bit due to the trauma of losing his brother. Dreams and traumatic memories are not the most reliable thing. There's some of the details of the dream feel just... Off? I don't know. The constant focus to a yellow frisbee. The fact the mom gets a towel for soda that barely hit the side of the table when they're eating outdoors. Plus, how easy the ghost kids manage to change the dream. I really don't think Mike is remembering what happened to Garrett correctly, but who knows. We'll likely see next movie.
Wait actually??? That’s wild, I’m gonna have to look at the opening again for that! The general color choices were definitely intentional but that’s a whole other level
woah, never thought i’d be namedropped in a youtube comment section! glad that my speculation is helping theorists surrounding this movie!
Mike-‘William, you killed my father.’
ST-‘No, I am your father’
Mike - No, that's not true! That's impossible!!!
Instead of william saying micheal schdmit at the endding what if he said
Micheal afton
I would love if this was true! The Afton family drama is the most fascinating part of the games for me. I love the idea of a protagonist haunted by guilt trying to hunt down his serial killer father whose creations were responsible for the destruction of their family and finally put an end to him. So it's always bummed me out that the adaptations seem to be allergic to letting Michael Afton exist 😮💨
This is a compelling theory! Divorced Afton is a very clean way to connect Billy to Mike while explaining why Billy would go out of his way to target Mike's brother.
For the moment I'm a kidswap believer, especially with the Garrionette hints, but more than anything I'm glad that the movie has inspired a new wave of theorizing that doesn't have to directly connect to any other Freddy's media.
Billy? Garrionette? You think you're homies with the film cast or smt??💀
garrionette is so funny 😂
@@hyperr1092I think he’s saying Billy instead of William because it’s shorter.
You gotta stop calling William, Billy my guy
@@janitorscruffy7834Bill is old nickname for Williams, just like Abby is old nickname for Elizabeths. They are not used as often nowadays but it's not excuse to call them not true. FNAF takes place in 1983, as the earlier known date. A lot of changed from that year to 2023. And Bill is used as William in Vannesa A.'s backstory of Security Breach.
i would also like to add that the games point out that Mike often gets confused with William, and I believe it is stated in one of the books that a stand-in for Mike looks just like a younger version of his dad (who ofc would be a stand-in for William). and having this information. it's easy to see that Micheal in the movie looks a lot like William. Same hair colour, simillar head and jaw shape, similar eyes and a similar hairstyle. it almost looks like the actors were chosen both based on experience in acting and on their looks being somewhat similar. Or at least, that's my impression of it.
The actors don't look alike, appearence can't be used as proof in movies
This is just copium
If you look at their outfits during the career counselling session they are very similar, yet contrasting. Make of that what you will
... Sister Location epilogue of Michael and Afton family poster of Pizzeria Simulator stated it. No book ever said it, only games.
When it comes to Michael/Mike not knowing about Freddy's, could be trauma blocking when he was adopted away by the Schmidt's. Now as for Henry not being mentioned in the tape, a good explanation for this is William purposefully omitting Henry's existence from the company to take the credit for himself, kind of like how in Walten Files, Felix is edited out of all official tapes talking about the company.
That's what I thought.
1:59 About that. I think Mike meant his dad committed suicide when he said something like: "My mom died a while ago and my dad couldn't handle it". The expression "couldn't handle it" sounds like he committed suicide after Mike's mom died.
Btw, I don't remember with what words Mike said this phrase, I'd need to watch the movie when it's available online, but well I'm quoting the phrase with what I can remember from what he said to Vanessa.
I was thinking that too but it’s never really specified well so it’s anyone’s guess right now really.
I’m glad I’m not the only one who’s thought of this! I could honestly see them revealing a twist like this in the sequels. After all, if you’re planning to do a movie trilogy, why would you put all your cards on the table in just the first film? They’re obviously saving some more crucial lore we don’t know about for later, hence why they have Vanessa in a coma at the end, she can’t give Mike any answers. (And even if it’s not true, it’s fun to theorize about. Afton family drama is just fun to talk about in general)
My running theory was that Mrs. Schmidt either divorced William while she was still pregnant, or they had an affair while she was still with her husband.
I think Mike Schmidt could be revealed to be Michael Afton in some way in one of the next movies. We all know how Scott writes these stories by confusing the fandom and them making their own theories.
my theory is pretty similar to yours, only i think the people in mike’s dream aren’t really his parents. remember how he told Vanessa that his family was “like a sitcom”, maybe they were. mike’s whole memory could be a trauma response and that his parents could be more disfuntional. but i def agree that his mom was married to william at one point.
Back when Scott was still discussing the different screenplays they had in mind for the movie, he said this about the "Mike" screenplay:
"...All the right characters, all the right motivations, all the right stakes...".
This wouldn't be the case if it wasn't implied that Mike was closely related to the plot, characters, and conflicts of the known story at the time (and the known story at the time in NO way suggested that Mike Shmidt was only at the FNaF 1 pizzeria to find out the truth of his missing brother), so the natural assumption that he would have had to be hinting at is that Mike related to the plot in a deeper way than only being in that single game.
Point is, I think Scott's own words suggest that they may be one in the same by implication of our available knowledge at the time.
I think we should be pretty skeptical on the things Scott has said before.
I really like this take! Was super bummed that they made Vanessa his daughter and there wasn’t some William-Michael family reveal. I was expecting Vanessa to just be a nod towards security breach and not a genuine character
What do you mean you didn’t expect her to be a “genuine character?” She was pretty prominent in the trailers, it shows her telling mike some important information, there’s even TV spots of her talking about her love for the place before it shut down. Yeah so no sh*t she is important to the plot of the film.
@@aregularhorrorfan4184I think it’s just pretty disappointing they shoehorned this newer fnaf character in, removing Michaels entire character just for her
@@aaron6290this is probably a better explained version of the complaint that the original comment was maybe trying to make.
She's nod to Security Breach more than you realize. Michael never introduced himself as Afton in the games, mind you. He always could be stepson of William which would explain Mike Schmitdt of FNAF1, his bullies to younger brother and William hating him just because he's from different wife.
@@aaron6290 I mean, I initially thought she'd be a shoehorn for Vanny/Vanessa from SB as well and was surprised to see that she was a character that had a pretty concrete connection with William Afton. At the end I didn't really mind it, because ultimately I'm going with the narrative that SHE is supposed to be who Michael Afton is in the game lore, and even if Mike Schmidt's related to her in any way, she's gonna be the one pulling the narrative from the same point of view as Michael Afton does in the games.
That's why I have some hope that her character isn't just a 'shoehorn'. It'd be real disappointing if they do nothing more with the fact that she's literally Springtrap's kid in the movie and they start to push Mike Schmidt as the real Michael Afton stand-in. I don't mind it if he was, it's just that then Vanessa is literally made useless if we're trying to make parallels with game lore, haha. That's why I think the connection with silver eyes (Edit: or some other book, I forgot) is probably more substantial, for example. 'Mike Schmidt' in the movie doesn't have to literally be Michael Afton in order to exist or to be part of the narrative if this follows that book / a narrative that's part of the book canon, not the game lore.
At first I thought this was gonna be copium but actually!! I love how your theory explains how Michael immediately knew the name of the brother of kid he kidnapped, and how he happened to be in Nebraska (assuming freddy's still is in utah?) at this random campground when this was happening; it made it more than chance, it was resentment and it was calculated and that's much more suited to Williams character. Also that vanessa and mike are his offspring but it would make sense for them not to know eachother, and for mike to not know william but for william to know mike.
I also like the idea that Mike is unknowingly an afton because he still fits a lot of m aftons characterizations in the start of the movie, like how he's protective of kids but can be very violent and vengeful, driven and not one to give up. I think it was a very concious effort that one of the first things we saw of movie mike was him beating a man on the suspicion that he was going to hurt a kid, otherwise I don't know why they would go through so much effort of having the cinematic view of him punching in a fountain when it could have been easily stated in dialouge.
The nightmare gas is strong in this one.
There's 2 other theories:
1) William leaves, Mrs Afton changes her name to her Maiden name, Schmitt. (Although it doesn't explain why he kills Garret)
2) The Schmitt Family is the Movie version of the Emilys.
(Literally says this second theory in the Video 5:20 (wrote this comment before i got to that part) 😆
Henry Emily is Game and Book William's business partner who leaves after William killed his kid, Charlotte A.K.A the puppet. (Imagine if Garrett is the Movie Puppet, who dies, becomes the puppet and gives life to the kids. The Movie kids seem to know who Garret is, which is either from looking through Mike's memories or knowing Garret is the Puppet)
Also the Emily/Schmitt and Afton Families are basically the same, except the kids are switched.
Movie William and Game Henry have one daughter, while movie Henry (if the father is Henry), and Game William have 2 sons and one Daughter.
And then William also targets one of Henry's kids. In the Books and Games, it's Charlie, who becomes the puppet in the games and is swapped for a robot version of herself in the books, and in the movie its Garrett. So based on Charlie's fate, Garrett has to have something to do with an animatronic taking his place in the story, whether its literal like robot Charlie in the books or him possessing an animatronic, like Charlie with the puppet in the games.
Edit: 5:20 William know the Schmitts, but Mike doesn't know Freddy's. Maybe Henry and William made Fredbears, then Garret goes missing, and so Henry and his family move elsewhere (far away from William), and then, sometime later, William opens Freddy Fazbear's Pizza. (Makes it so Mike knows Fredbear's but not Freddy's)
Yes yes yes yes because we never got to know who Garette is possesing and the music box at the end implies that the puppet would be important in the next thing and the “come find me" at the end so like ehheheehhehe idkksksksksk
Mrs.Afton don't even exist at all in the movie au world only Mrs.afton exist in the Canon main original game AU world
Mrs Afton is the nanny staff bot that looks like ballora that's at the original Afton Family table in security breach.
Interesting! I am also huge on Garrett turning out to be the puppet as well and being the movie equivalent of Charlie. All of the story doesn't have to perfectly parallel the games either, so if it turns out Garrett is the puppet AND William is their father it would honestly be insane. Would put the Emilys and the Aftons closer than ever.
I think the idea of Vanessa being Afton's kid, relating to the games: Vanessa is somewhere in her mid twenties or thirties in Security Breach and William gets sealed in a wall sometime after 1993. Security brech would be post 2023, so if Vanessa is Afton's kid in the game timeline, she would've been a baby before he got sealed up.
The movie portrays her and Mike as the same age, which would not be the case in the games.
Vanessa from security breach is not the Vanessa in the movie. Vanessa in the movie is basically Elizabeth but with a different name just so Scott doesn't confirm who the character is. Vanessa in security breach is supposed to represent Elizabeth after all based on the audio logs and subtle references like her eating ice cream.
Also the movie takes place in 2000 so Vanessa being Elizabeth grown up makes sense
@@mesaplayer9636obviously they are different characters purely due to this being a different timeline. But the fact that both are named vanessa means its worthwhile investigating since why would they give movie vanessa the same name as game vanessa who is supposed to be an important character in the new games if they arent connected in some way. They couldve gone with any other name yet they chose vanessa. Movie vanessa could be a grown up elizabeth but why change the name? Ultimately we know little about how the movie ties into the games so anythings on the table
@@joshuavis2736i would agree but then again it’s scott who loves using the same name for multiple characters with no connection with each other
@@negnoms yea you had fritz the nightguard and missing child as well as jeremy the nightguard, the missing child, and withered bonnie cosplayer. You technically also have mike schmitt and michael afton since they arent confirmed to be the same especially with the fnaf movie coming out. Its kinda annoying how every details important with fnaf but then they have these situations
@@negnoms It is also the case that she looks like Vanessa, though. They choose to hire someone who matches Vanessa'a apearance for the movie. It seems intentional.
The books are also a trilogy without Michael as the main character. I feel like the movie’s should tell their own story. They won’t be like the games and that’s okay. These are different or similar characters who will go through similar things as the games or wherever they’ll draw inspiration from next.
I agree.
I like the whole game Afton arc I do?
But something that I feel I dislike on the community is.. I feel there’s not enough CHARACTER of them there. Only small glimpses in games specifically. Sure we get some stuff in the Charlie novels but it’s still not much,
I’d rather have the games actually try and focus on the Afton family dynamic with making a prequel game, maybe even though a fredbears game who knows
Than like.. have it be completely adapted into film. Also am I the only guy who thinks the whole Vanessa being an Afton thing fits well?? In fnaf sb it’s established that, even though the mimics manipulation, she had an abusive father with no mother around. That obviously turns out to be an illusion but the similarities to the bill guy and William feel purposeful, almost like it’s another thematic mirroring that fnaf is well known to do
Like how Abby almost got killed by a springlock ella suit, kinda like elixabeth being killed by baby
@@skelebonez1349Ella springlock suit -> Ella the doll -> Charlie Emily -> Baby -> Elizabeth Afton -> springlock funtime animatronics. It all comes together.
@@LukiKruki pretty sure they wouldn’t like. Go to insane? But I dooo feel like Abby is kinda a:
If Elizabeth survived kinda thing
I’ve been mulling over the idea of there being an affair that ended with a lovechild for a bit now. Between the “baby is not mine” bit in the show mike watches in the games , to the unclear claiming or who made Circus baby , to this random switching around of the characters connections in the movie. But I’m definitely not an expert or somebody who does much beyond debating theories in my own head.
2:28 i feel like vanessa is a kidnap child that william decided to kidnap and raise as an apprentice because the photo that she given to mike looks more of a “oh a nice mascot gives me a toy” and not a “oh this is my dad” kind of type, cause the “william is my father” from vanessa just doesn’t sound right
And maybe William accidentally killed his wife and somehow abandoned mike and garret to the Schmidts(and the Schmidt’s might be good friends of William’s wife)
Amazing theory I never thought about William Afton being mikes step dad but it was extremely interesting loved the theory if this is true you are a genius
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The movies are based on the “original story”, that of the first three games. At the time, Michael was supposed to be Henry’s son, so I believe that is the narrative they’re going with despite Mike having no prior knowledge of Freddy’s. Though I do really like this theory, and I could see it being a great plot twist in a later movie.
Mike being Henry's son is weird but it's never explained in the movie what exactly happened to his parents? Also, watch the training video in the movie...while the lady is speaking there is a man in the background working on a endoskeleton....is that Henry or Afton?
@@homespace1268 The actor playing the guy working on an animatronic is a Jim Henson worker uncredited. Maybe he’s supposed to be mikes dad but it’s unclear.
That’s never been confirmed that Mike is supposed to be related to Henry Emiliy in the first 3 games. Where did you get this information?
@@gotchyaOffical As with everything else in this series, it’s just a theory. But in BB’s air adventure there are three shadow balloon boys under a tree, representing the three children in the family of FNaF 4, and the sister is possessing the puppet. If we connect that to the silver eyes which is a parallel universe of the first four games, that would make Charlie Sammy and Mike all Henry’s children.
@@Toaster003 but Mike doesn’t even exist in the silver eyes trilogy??????
To rebuttal at least two points. It’s not very weird that William would decide to kidnap and kill a kid that doesn’t live in the area he lives in, considering that Garret could’ve very much been his first kill since the picture Vanessa shows mike of her holding garrets plane with the place seemingly still open would have to be before the mci in this universe considering that was the whole reason the place shut down, so with all that established I could see with William’s first kill he would want to be less risky and kill someone who doesn’t live that close to him and then stepping it up and taking all the risks when he kills the other 5 kids in his pizzeria.
As for how they would adapt the other games with them not being related…….they just won’t or at least the two important that would conflict this. I have no doubt that they are most likely going for the original trilogy route and adapting only the first 3 games with elements from the other games. Even the director said that if they were to make a second one they would most likely adapt the second game. So SL and 6 won’t really be important to the movie series besides nods and references to stuff in those games. I know there’s a argument that 3 would be important for mike to be an afton but I really don’t see why at all. I have no doubt that mike would be pretty keen on stopping anything involving William since they already made sworn enemies out of each other. With William killing mikes brother and mike and Abby being the reason William is now in the state that he’s in. With Vanessa in their as well being the betraying daughter.
I personally think that this film doesn't need to directly adapt the game story and lore at all because this should its own continuity without having to shoehorn in the Afton family lore nor do I think this potential movie series should be used as a vehicle to answer the game series story and lore at al either.
THANK YOU!!!! this is exactly what I've been saying since I saw the movie!
I hate it when video game movies are canon to the games because it gets confusing and I feel Mike being revealed as an afton in a sequel wouldn't be very satisfying
I agree with you about this one. I prefer they do their own movie lore, adapting different things from the games while keeping it unique. That’s what they did in this movie and that’s what I hope they keep doing! I don’t want the whole afton narrative to be adapted because it’s so messy as it is, I’d much rather have them tell a different yet similar story surrounding that whole concept
@@elzzebellsThe movies are only using the FNAF 1-3 lore and some concepts from the trilogy, so it’s going to be way simpler than the games are.
@@aguy4326 It would arguably be the most generic and predictable route they could've gone with the plot of the movie overall and trying to tack it in to the game series is just a recipe for disaster.
@@elzzebells Unpopular Opinion: I don't think Mike Schmidt needs to be Michael Afton in order for the story to work because I think the film can still work without having it be arbitrarily connected to the Afton family palooza. Also the FNaF series has this weird habit of reusing character names for no apparent reason a notable example of this is from the book series with the character named "Michael Brooks" who possesses Golden Freddy in the book trilogy.
Towards the end of the vid, you sounded nervous. There's no need for that, be confident in your material. Your theory's as good and well thought out and evidenced as MatPat's, you got potential and, fwiw, I got my eye on you and your content
I actually like it better as Mike, a man who simply wanted to find the man who took his brother, finds his way to the establishment where the killer did this to more than just him. Part of me wants these movies to have a vastly different continuity I guess.
Yeah
They're already connected through his brother
Symmetry
Oh trust me, these are all points I’ve had in my mind. I’m glad I’m not alone. You did a great job on your first fnaf video :)
Thank you!! Wanted to go bombastic with my first outing lol. Glad people get what I'm putting out
@@elzzebellsreally good work on this and the points got across clearly. I can see you doing great with time and practice.
Even easier. The person Mike thinks is his father is Henry Emily. The wife has an affair or is attacked by William Afton and they leave the company behind. That's why William tracks them down to keep tormenting them.
In the training tapes when they talk about the "one genius" behind Freddy's I think could be explained as the movie is doing something similar to The Walten Files, where Jack Walten's (or in this case Wiliam's) entire existence was covered up because he's bad PR.
this is just speculation, though, i have no actual hard *evidence* (i need to rewatch the movie and properly analyze it lmao)
imo Mike is probably not an Afton but an Emily, his father might have been connected to Fazbear entretainment as a repair man and William could have taken things personally like the games where they separate and Afton gets revenge on Charlotte (similarly to how Garett was kidnapped) aswell as explaining how Afton recognizes Mike's last name.
That would also explain the ending of the puppet asking to come find me, since it's Garett inside the puppet asking Mike that
maybe garett is the dog animatronic (i forgot the name), and just seperate off from the lore maybe? or some kind of puppet thing like the lore? not sure.
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I think the Schmidts are actually cousins to the Aftons, because if you looked at the cast list a little bit earlier on, the actor for Aunt Jane was originally casted as Jane Afton, but was later changed to Aunt Jane.
That was vandalism of the IMDB page not a major story reveal at all.
I love the Afton family and how messed up all of them are. They are all so interesting in their own way, I desperatly wanted to see them in the movie and your theory is exactly what I thought after watching the movie, there was no way I was the only one.
The Afton kids and the Schmidt are basically the exact same characters with different names, I feel like it would be wasted potential to just make them a random family with no connection to William Afton or Freddy's. I guess Henry could be Mike's dad but again, how tf do you live without even knowing what your dad does for a living?
I know I'm being delusional I don't care
for a first video, bravo!! you did absolutely great on putting together a cohesive theory and your enjoyable to listen to. Keep up the great work
This theory is wicked (in a good way.) Could totally see this being how the story continues to unfold
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I absolutely believe Mike is still an Afton and they have that reveal all planned out. Thanks for the video and thank you for raising money for Palestinian children, they need all of our help now more than ever ❤
Personally I’m team Mike is a robot just because of The Silver Eyes comparisons, but this is the route I much prefer they would take. The fact William knew the Shmidt last name has been bugging me too, and I’m so glad someone else brought it up. The only reason I don’t believe this version of the theory is because it’s too well written for what I expect from this franchise, but man I hope you’re right in the end.
I am a believer in that other theory but i really respect your theory. I think a sequel will clear a lot of things up.
My only flaw is that Vanessa and Mikes actors are the same age so they'd have to be twins.
Then again your point about Mike having no memory of the pizzeria is completely true. I took the one genuis as maybe Henry being in the shadows and William taking all the credit. I feel like the Emilys are just as important as the Aftons. Without the puppet; give gift, give life doesnt actually feel the same.
To be honest its fnaf every theory has holes from lack of information.
Hoping a sequel clears a lot of things up.
I doubt Mike is an Afton because it’s already established that Vanessa is William’s daughter in the movie’s timeline. The movies are based ONLY on FNAF 1-3, as Scott always wanted since 2018 (he had said that in a post on Steam), and these first three games never implied that Mike Schmidt was the son of the killer. That’s why Mike’s sister is named Abby instead of Elizabeth, Golden Freddy kid is a boy instead of Cassidy and it’s really, REALLY likely that The Puppet is going to be possessed by Garrett in the sequels.
But the movie is still an adaptation of the books and games, that’s why a large part of the inspiration in the movie are based of books and games after FNAF 3. Sure it is truly trying to retell the story with only FNAF 1-3 as the trilogy, but it is a hard stretch to say that it’s ONLY the first 3 games
If the movies are only based / gonna be based on FNAF 1-3 then It makes no sense for Vanessa to be in the picture, nor for Abby to exist (only if she is supposed to parallel Elizabeth Afton) since she got introduced in FNAF SL
The Ella doll straight up deconfirms what you're saying, plus Vanessa said her last name was Shelly in the movie, I don't think she will end up being blood related at all.
@@gotchyaOfficalthe main storyline is only based on the first 3 games. For sure it could borrow some concepts from later games, but the core story elements are only from the original trilogy.
@@flippero4918Abby is a reference to Elizabeth, but she is a new character created for the movies. FNAF 1-3 never denied that Mike Schmidt could have any brothers or sisters.
Alright, I've been trying to piece this shit together since I was in the fucking movie theater. I am actually so happy that someone else is on the same page as me. Maybe it's me just wanting the movies to fit into the lore, but it would make a lot of sense for Afton to remarry and have another kid, at least for the sake of trying to insert the canon in a way that makes sense. Also, your video's quality is amazing. I literally cannot edit a video to save my fucking life. Hope you continue with this sort of content creation!
Thank you!!
I can‘t wait to watch more theories of yours in the future. I like your thought process
I like this theory because it fills that stupid plot hole of why the fuck did William decide to drive to the middle of nowhere and kidnap a random kid
My only real problem is that this theory hinges on Mrs. Schmitt being William's ex. That doesn't necessarily have to be the case, Mike could just have been taken into protective custody by a family with some degree of connections to the Aftons, presumably that connection being that they're the stand-ins for the Emilys, just omitted from being mentioned in the training tape for whatever reason. There may not be a version of the crying child, and there may not end up being a version of Elizabeth. But Garret being the puppet can make sense even if Mike is an Afton, because they don't have to be related.
I'm so glad I found this video! The theory was great and made sense, and I can't wait to see your channel keep growing!
Really like this video! Can't wait to see this channel grow!
Wow! This video is *really* well-made great theory! looking forward to the Sequel if they make it.
Great job 👏🏻
Great theory! This one makes everything makes sense
I know that a few years ago people started to make short stories about fnaf ,specifically the afton famil,Clara Schmdit idk how she got the name,didnt see it in the game but ppl always called her her last name Schmdit,Clara in the stories had orangish-brown hair similar to the movie,plus william ,abby,garet,and micheal have similar curlish hair in the movie
The games are separate to the movie though, so theres a possibility that they did scrap the Afton Family thing since thats leaning more to the games, its expected that there's similarities to game lore and movie lore but they are different. I dont think they are gonna make Vanessa and Mike to be half siblings, instead i think they are most likely cousins, i'll explain in the comments
Okay this is like a theory only and the thoughts of, Aunt Jane being a villain also.
Aunt Jane and William Afton was a married couple, keep in mind 'was' cause i think they are divorced. These evidences are low grounding evidence though so i could be wrong
First is, clothing: It has stated by MatPat in his video that how they dressed is very specific and Scott is very picky about it. And you know what Aunt Jane was wearing in her first appearance? Purple, a very specific color choice, that is obviously correlates to Afton (cause purple guy)
Second, drawings: Pictures and drawings are very important in the movie, it is clearly hinting at us to look deeper to the drawings. Theres one particular drawing in the board that has three people (I have a picture of it) A man in a purple shirt, a little girl with blonde hair and a woman with blonde hair who is wearing a green dress.
This is the Afton family that is drawn by Vanessa.
Aunt Jane is blonde(Not natural blonde but idk man-)
It’s because the movies are only based on the 2015 lore (FNAF 1-3). So, no Michael Afton, no Bite of 83, no Henry, neither Charlotte.
@@juliabp6057 I disagree, theres obviously similarities between the movie lore and game lore since the bite victim who is the crying child has its own movie counter part which is Garret. I think there will be similarities but also differences, it wont be the same but theres gonna be changes to the lore in the movie
Great theory! The editing is awesome too :)
Wow, I like your theory. Keep it up 👍
You only have 502 subscribers ? Dang you deserve way more than that :)
As a mike enjoyer who is also still inhaling so much copium after watching the movie, i also am a believer that vanessa and mike could be a long lost half sibling scenario. Especially with the way the end of the movie basically informs us the audience that Mike and Abby are basically welcoming Vanessa as part of their little family (as shown by Abby's drawing in the fridge and Mike's lil talk in his hospital visit to her) it could be a hint to that and I like to think so
Pretty good video bdw!! I love this proposal on how things could play out in the sequel a lot!
This is a great Theory!!! I’m subscribing cus ur funny :)
this is literally the theory i was telling my friend in the theatre only me thinking Schmidt was the wifes surname but the dads surname also works!
I love ur art, very high quality video i like it :)
THANKS for making this video. This has been bugging me since the Mike namedrop, and you NAILED IT
No, it’s not. The movies are ONLY using the information we had back in 2015 with the first three games. That’s why the game’s Afton Family doesn’t exist in the movies.
@@juliabp6057 I gave up on catching up with the lore YEARS ago, so it's refreshing to see how the movie is making it's own thing at a decent pace. I love feeling like anything could happen all over again. I watched the whole thing unfold since 2014 and I'm still here for it.
@@juliabp6057 I hate it when people use this argument in order to justify something. We should always be skeptical about what Scott says because he can always be wrong later on, ESPECIALLY later on since it’s been in production hell for almost a decade. Also most of the plot in this movie is just different plot points taken from the different scripts that were left behind throughout the years.
1:54 damn I think just stupid cuz I thought Mike was implying his dad kys himself after everything
This video still gives me hope that bro will come back. Also nice sponsor I’ll check it out
Great video. Keep up with the good work.
Also I honestly belive alot what your saying and can honestly see the movies doing somthing like this. I still don't think Mike's "dad" I'd Henry but it's a good theory.
this aint bad bro love this vid
the way ive been looking at it is just "the movies not cannon"
Flipping aced it with this video
In the FNaF 2 movie teaser trailer released just a few hours ago, William says to Mike “do you really know who your father was, Mike? I don’t think so.” Looks like movie Mike Schmidt is indeed Michael Afton after all.
Mike's dad committed sewer slide after the mom died
Yooooo, what an amazing work for you first actual video as you say haha; I mean, the background, the drawings, the music, even your voice has an amazing volume and it's such a cool voice!
I hope your channel grows so much if you want to keep making videos! ^^
Man you have no idea how much this means to me as someone who is very self conscious about how my voice sounds!! Thank you!! I will def keep making stuff here and there
Ok I'm near here , but that 🎶 love lift is up where we belong 🎶 remix hit hard in my childhood 🤣
oh my god THATS WHERE ITS FROM.. Thought the remix was hilarious but I had no idea the original song. Thank you for commenting
@@elzzebellsno problem at, keep up the good work on your content
i was thinking this while watching the movie!!
“You know Michel *coughs up blood* I’m surprised that you are more interested in the what I did to your brother and not THE WHY”
“Your an insane psychopath I don’t need another reason”
William tilts the spring Bonnie head
“Why did you do it”
“To get revenge of course”
“What could garret have possibly have done to you”
“Not garret but (insert mikes moms name here) for taking my son away from me”
Zoom in mike breathing
“I will always remember holding you in my arms for the first time, then again those kids will never forget the rage I felt when you were ripped away from me”
if matpat was here he could do what he did for the video about is he the father of dream, he could literally match up the simularites and come to a conclusion
Thats a pretty good theory... A FILM THEORY!!!
My current headcanon-ish theory is:
The reason Mike doesn't know about Freddy's and why Henry is his stepdad might be because Henry simply left (like always). He gave it all up to William and moved to Nebraska with William's ex-wife (who is currently pregnant, or Mike's too young to remember) to start over a new life. Hence, the reason why William went all the way to Nebraska was just to get back at his old partners and kidnap and kill their new child (Garrett).
And in all honesty, I just want to see the Mike and Vanessa shippers crumble when they get revealed as siblings.
this theory makes sense actually.
This would be incredibly stupid. These movies are probably (and honestly should be) the story of the first 3 games. Micheal is already more important than he was originally.
I really like this theory!
Yeah, I can buy this theory
i came out of the theater pitching this idea to my friends and they were like "chill, it doesn't have to be exactly like the game lore" and i was like "noooo, mike needs to be aftoooon, you don't get itttt"
they might have just not made mike not know about freddies so the william afton being his father twist would be more suprising I highly doubt they would change such an important plot piece
thank you, I needed this copium. I watched the movie first before diving deep into the games lore. I played fnaf 1-4 before tho and I wanted the movie to explain the lore to me. I thought the movie was pretty good but then I watched the 8 hours long video about fnaf lore and realized that the movie lore doesnt really fit the games or the comics. Im confused. I needed some theories like this!
Pretty simple explanation the movie doesn’t connect to the games and is basically a new story with similar story points from the games and even books.
Great first vid
I wish they go back to focus more on William, what disappointed me was the criminal Amy of time we got of William and that his showdown wasn’t against ghosts but family-
"will vlad and his distressed mistress..."
OH SHIT YEAH 🤨
@@elzzebells I see immortal and the restless as more of a parallel to Michael with Clara and William/fazbear entertainment with Vlad, with the logbook tie-ins, but there can be double meanings or more :V
I actually thought abt that in middle of the movie
I adore this
This being a first video is so well made I can't same the same myself 😅 but I really like this theory!
Wow this theory makes so much sense!
Honestly, I consider this video canon.
I don’t think they’re trying to perfectly adapt the games to each movie. The games (especially the early ones) have like zero story in them and the story they do have is supposed to have happened decades ago. When making a movie I think they really had to take liberties to make it work as a MOVIE and have it be more inspired by the game than a 1:1
THANK YOU I though the same thing with Garretts name I reeeally hope that William is actually Michaels dad
7:06 i wished the sequel adapted SL with puppet, like one of the scrapped scripts, plus, it happens after FNaF1 in both universes (books, kinda, and games)
also, about the emily and afton families swap in the movie, i would like that the puppet had 2 souls in the movies, after all, golden freddy has 2 souls in the games, cassidy and kidface, in the movie they could be charlotte and Garrett
plus, kinda funny, but really good theory, keep up the good work
I have a theory:
William and his wife are confirmed to have been divorced and that William cheated his way of custody of Elizabeth (Michael Afton's sister) so it's likely that Mike's father we see is actually his step father and William got custody of his daughter.
It lines up with Mike and Vanessa being about the same age, William’s reaction to knowing Mike's full name, his reason to kidnap and kill Gareth and him knowing about Mike being his brother.
Immortal and the Restless fits very well into this theory!
I think Scott said that Immortal and the Restless was about Aubergine Man Jr (that’s what I call Michael) trying to reveal the craziness of Freddy’s but Aubergine Man (William) is like denying or something like that.