It sounds like being there: The Ohm Walsh 2000
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- Опубліковано 1 жов 2024
- Chances are you've never heard an omni-directional speaker, so some explanation is in order: Most "normal" box speakers project sound forward, but Ohm's omnidirectional Walsh speakers have 360-degree radiation, so they produce a bigger soundfield.
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Excellent review, as usual. I'm looking forward to reading the questions people leave! Thanks, Steve :-)
Hehehe, reading them is right. Because on UA-cam no one ever answers them!
Can I marry you?
Since women (in general) have more sensitive hearing, I'd like to hear about the best system you have ever heard (not in a showroom).
Jana,
Q1: name all the audio components that you would currently want to own. Headphones, speakers, amps, preamps, dacs, cables, etc. Not really a question but fuck it.
Q2: At what age and how did you start to notice differences in the quality of recordings.
Q3: Name all the artists your currently listening to + name 10 of your all time favs.
Good Morning and Happy Holidays I hope somebody from the group could provide guidance's, some years back I purchased a PSB T6 which is 4 ohm and a XT2 which is 8 ohm I am using a Marantz pm 6005, when I payed CDs the T6 start playing even with the volume at zero? playing both speakers with the same amp could damage the amp? any suggestions? I hope somebody could provide feedback.
They are my vacation speakers. AKA I use them when I have nothing else to review. Which is rare and I look forward to it.
Z Reviews Glad to see one of my audiophile heroes in the comments. Been a subscriber to your channel for ages. 😁
Still waiting on that Chewbacca review.
What about Linkwitz ??? www.linkwitzlab.com/
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@@epi2045 If he can't find time to answer his subscriber's comments, at least he find time to comment on Steve Guttenberg Audiophiliac videos...
Naturally, I have to ask: 1.) Compared to Klipsch Forte III? 2.) How do they sound with classical music, full orchestra?
can these speakers be played at low volume night listening or do they need to be played loud to be enjoyed?
One of your peers, Zeos Pantera, has used Ohm Walsh talls as his main speakers for a few years. He tests 100+ nice speakers a year, but none of them have bumped the Ohm Walsh's from the top spot.
Steve great video but you forgot to mention how wide the sweet spot is , how you can sit anywhere and hear both speakers perfectly. You did not mention are they a keeper ? Also they do sound better after they burn in a few months . A follow up coming? Now on to the Ohm A's and F's a company called HHR Exotics makes Identical looking but much improved versions called the TLS-1 and TLS-2 . The F's were once called the best speaker at any price, Maybe you can make a video about them.I heard the F's 40 years ago and the MBL's st a audio show , I think the F.s sounded better .
Lincoln Walsh was my best friend as a teenager. He gave me my background in music, as he owned and designed the Brook 10-C3 audio amplifier company. When he invented the speaker now known as the incarnation of the Walsh original transmission line driver system, it sounded great then. Better now. From 1948 when he sold his amplifier to my father, it was only a mono system... but compared with other systems, boy... did it SOUND great. Good bless Class A.
Wow!
Are you still with us?
I appreciate the comparison to the LRS, but could you also make comparison to the Klipsch Forte III?
Steve, it would be great to see your setup as you reviewed it. Don't get me wrong. You are a very handsome man with lovely shirts. However we want to see the audio gear. ;-)
My first boyfriend had a pair back in the early 90s, they’re what introduced me to soundstage and imaging and deep effortless bass and just amazing lights out chill out music listening sessions 😉 I almost bought a set a few years ago. Still may...
Thanks for the review, Steve. Now that both you and Z Reviews have so wholeheartedly endorsed these speakers, I’m going to start saving up for them.
I worked at Tech HiFi in Columbus for John. We had the Ohm F and Infinity RS2"s. About 1977.
I recently received my Walsh tall Minis after a six month wait.
It's been fascinating go through the listening learning curve with these. At first, they sounded nice but I was surprised that one sounded stronger than the other. It was patiently explained to me that this had to do with position - the left speaker is closer to a hard surface to the left of it. Adjusting the balance fixed this and I started to hear what Steve was talking about.
There's is definitely a burn in period, which includes getting used to the omni speaker experience. Your ears have to adjust to the fact that the sound isn't coming at you from the center of a speaker pointed at you - it's coming from the room itself.
As an acoustic musician, I compare it to the fact that I always have to play the room, not just the instrument. I have to sense what's coming back at me from the walls. I'm learning to set up these speakers the same way. Not how do the speakers sound, but how does the music sound in my room.
I bought these, and waited the six months, largely on the strength of this review. Totally worth it.
I have had a pair of these since April. I will say that they definitely benefit from "burn-in" - I have noticed that the depth and breadth has improved since the first listen and the bass is definitely better. The center image is good, but in my setup sounds like it comes from a little behind the speaker plane. They do benefit from moving them closer to the wall than I would do with box speakers. They also have more approval from the wife, compared to larger speakers that they replace.
P.S., they sound great playing the audio from movies, no center speaker, woofer, or surround. Obviously, if I wanted earth shaking lows I would need a sub, but as all-purpose speakers they are great.
The whole wife approval factor is a rather big concern for me. I'm pretty certain she would love that about these Ohms.
@@redstarwraith I have the speakers about 13-inches from the back wall. the room is slightly deeper than wide (15-ftx17.5-ft) with a sloping ceiling. Since they have a number of veneers for the speakers, you should be able to find a finish that works in your room.
I view them as all purpose speakers and they are quite handsome
I'm a firm believer with burn in when it comes to speakers. They have moving parts that need to be well moved and loosened to "flow"
Yes , wife approval....... I had DQ-10 for years ..... she let me keep them once she listened. But I showed her pics of the Walsh , she loved them and said if they only sounded as good... I told her in our space they would sound better! I got the green light and years later we have two pairs of Ohm Walsh speakers !
Hello, I am the co-designer of these speakers. They were the third project after my MicroWalsh speakers which were a project that I started while John was away on vacation - I was like Micky Mouse as the Sorcerer's Apprentice - I was doing precisely what John told me NOT to do while he was away :P (Waste time and money trying to design a smaller version of his speakers). Well, I got lucky and my attempt was remarkably successful. Once John returned from Vacation I was excited to show him and from that day forward, for the next year or so, John and I worked together in the lab usually puting in 11 - 12 hour days until the product was ready to release.
The 2000 is the first speaker developed at Ohm using computer simulation - John and I got to LISTEN to the speaker and make changes in real time without actually having to build crossovers - it was a remarkable and wonderful time in my life and I miss John very deeply - I wish he could still be here with us today.
hey, mind if i could talk to you more about this somewhere? it sounds very interesting, i love these things and i'd love to know more about it if this is true
@@tfwug OK, I can email you.
Bought a pair of Ohm Walsh 2 back in the day. Still have them, still love them. Never heard anything that comes close.
Hi. I am so confused. After your review of the lrs speakers I was sold on them. Never heard them though. So provided I did have the right amp do you think the lrs is good vs the olm 1000 series? Is it worth the 1300 difference ? Any input from anyone would be awesome.
Hey, if you have anything by Phil Keaggy he might sound really good on some high definition speakers. Just heard him live. Quite amazing.
There was a pair of Ohm A Omni directional speakers in my high school Planetarium. With that hemispherical ceiling the sound was incredible!
You had a high school planetarium? Wow.
Brian Moore Yes, the first one in Texas. You can check it out, king high school Corpus Christi Texas. It was built in 1966
@@TexasScout I did look it up. That's pretty impressive to have something like that in a high school. I don't even know of any colleges around here, near Atlanta, GA, that have a planetarium. I would have loved that back when I was in high school (in the 80's).
Back around 1980, I "babysat" a pair of Ohm Fs for a friend while he traveled. In those days, I was listening to a lot of WRVR-FM type jazz/fusion (GRP stuff, etc.) First song I heard from them was Spyro Gyra`s "Morning Dance", played at a healthy volume level, driven by my Phase Linear 700 amp. I was wowed by the sound, and still think of them as perhaps the greatest "jazz speakers" that I`ve ever experienced.
My dream speaker! ❤️
I remember the Ohm F speakers. They were excellent.
someone told me that Ohm F is one of the greatest speakers ever made by man kind.
I wonder how the new line (Walsh Talls i.e. 1000/2000/3000/4000/5000) compare to Ohm F and....if they sound better or not really so.
@Teknogod17 wow, many thanks for such a comprehensive reply. This is much appreciated.
Is there a way to talk to you via private messages please?
I didn't know that F had so many flaws (short lifespan, very high power requirements, tendency to blow, HF rollof, slow dynamics).
I watched this:
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and the guy is....raving about these new 2000. Are they really that good? Or was he paid for such a raving review?
What about the bass? Is it really that powerful as he says? I also read somewhere that these speaker have enormous bass - is that because they use the cabinet and down firing driver to strengthen the bass in any way? I mean.....2000 has only 8 inch woofer which has to play no only bass but also mids so....how can it have such an amazing bass?
I am not an audiophile and don't listen to ambitious acoustic genres like soul/jazz/blues/vocal.
I am a music lover who listens to electronic music and want biggest and baddest bass, WOW factor and wall of sound. I am currently using Mirage M3-si which are great speakers.
The other thing that interests me in these Ohm Walsh speakers is that they (supposedly) fill the entire room with music and I love that as I hate that 'sweet spot' listening scenario - I don't sit in one place for hours listening to jazz (like serious audiophiles do I suppose) but I move a lot in the room and want the music to be everywhere.
Please advise if you may. Many many thanks
The 360 degree dispersion pattern might be relatively approached by the defunct Bose 901. But the Walsh driver itself is strictly unique...and genial!
OMG! You said “Bose” on an audiophile channel. That does it-I’m dusting off my 301s. Freedom, daddy-o!
I hope they export aboard... I would sure want to give em a go..
they do..just call them or email them...
@@hawaiiguy1 Ok sure will do.👍
The OHM Walsh speaker uses wall reverberation to produce music with an airy (3D) quality. I would compare that to the sound of a guitar soloist without reverb and the same score with reverb, the later has an airy (3d) quality that please the ears of the listener more. Thanks for sharing. Speaker location can make the difference between a good sounding speaker and a great one. It affects the whole 3D spectrum, from the omni directional bass, through the directional midrange and highs. Using location to tweak the sound of a speaker and correct certain deficiencies in the linearity of its sound is easy and free, locate for the bass and tweak for the highs.
Hi Steve! How does it compare to some Klipsch speakers? Like the Heresy IV?
If you had around 2.5K to spend, would you go with Ohm Walsh 2000s, or Zu Omen MK IIs? Both sound very interesting to me in the 2500-2800 range.
or Tektons...
I'd do Maggies or Ohms
The Ohm F's were great speakers. I could never afford them or the amplifier that I'd need to drive them. Just thought you'd like to know that I picked up (last week) a pair of Ohm model H systems that I've wanted since 1978. I couldn't afford the $700 pair price tag (nor the space) in those days but my hifi restoration guy here in upstate NY had the H's, completely refurbished with new surrounds and a new Ohm driver for the unbelievable price of $275 for the pair. They have the two tweeter controls, are finished on all six sides and have a -3dB of 32Hz. Cabs are 26X15X11" and weigh 51 pounds each. Designed for room sizes 1,600 to 2,300 cu/ft. They're in my (1,742 cu/ft) dining room. Cosmetically and sonically excellent. Man, do they sound sweet. I'm still "testing" them out but so far my organ recordings sound best. Full, rich and deep bass. My Bach Fugue in G Minor CD is my favorite so far.
I spoke to an Ohm representative (in Brooklyn) and he said they sell refurbished model H's for $1,000 each. An awesome deal and my christmas present to myself. I drive them with my Hitachi SR-804 receiver. Gonna be a far out holiday season. In 1978 the Ohm F was their TOTL speaker and the model H was the second most expensive and an attempt to get the F's sound from a smaller conventional box. Vintage audio is a rewarding hobby and audiophilia is almost an addiction for me. I'm sure that the Walsh 2000 can outperform the model F's in every way and are excellent reproducers of sound. Happy holidays good sir, fuhgeddaboudit!
Well, I finally went onto Ohm's website and was going to spring for the 2000's and lo and behold when I started to do the initialization to make the purchase the price was now $1900 each instead of $1400. I was stunned and after reading the 'news' on the site I saw that the increase had gone into affect about two weeks before. Well, being a yankee I said no way I would pay for an increase that high. Instead I bought a pair of B-stock Klipsch Forte IV's whose only issue is a small, almost imperceptible imperfection on the top right side of the cabinet where top is mitered to the side. A doily will hide it nicely. And the cost was now less than the new 2000's price. So it's either 'he who hesitates' or 'he who waits' and since I'm a glass half full guy I'll go with the 'he who waits'.
I agree. That is over a 35% increase in price. If I am going to spend that much (which I haven't yet decided if I am willing to spend $4000 for a pair of speakers- I had set a limit of $3000 for myself), it opens up a lot more possibilities for me to look into- Spatial Audio Lab M-6 (an open baffle design- not omni-directional) among them. I intend to visit the Ohm "factory" in Brooklyn to listen and if I am blown away, I might still consider purchasing them, but now I have several other speakers in the $4000 range to consider should I decide I am willing to spend that much money.
Waiting from last year the Forte IVs increased $500.
Thanks for the review....the only negative to older ohms was their lack reliability. Old saying was they needed 200 watts to get going and 201 to blow up or something like that
Why horn speakers sound better - ua-cam.com/video/txRsNmMGWZo/v-deo.html
Being 46 I've listened to several music formats and have slipped into streaming because of the obvious reasons, so I've forgotten how music is supposed to sound like and I have a pretty decent sound system with big BIC towers,centers&rears and a pair of 1972 L100 centurys thru a Sony dn1050, well I thought it all sounded good but was never blow out of the water by the BICs untill I upgraded my Amazon music to the HD/ultra HD version it's supposivly better than cd? and wow apparently they sounded like crap before, I never realized how clean and clear those horn tweeters & mids on the pl980 towers sounded real ear candy, I rarely hear music that floats around like pixie dust, I will hate listening to regular compressed music from now on and I'm now sold that BIC can make a nice speaker, the pl200 sub and my dad's old JBLs add some nice umph sound to the modern system. I've heard not to mix n match but they all seem to work together fine... But not to sound like a salesman for the evil empire but the HD upgrade was the best $5 I've spent in awhile...
I have the Ohm Walsh Micro Towers Talls.
Outlaw RR2160 receiver crossed over at 100hz to dual SVS SB3000 SUBS. Used in a 2.2 for music and video. 65 inch LG OLED. Largeish living room. 13 inches from back wall. 6 inches on each side of TV stand. Subs on the outside of Ohms. 10 inches out. Great fanthom center channel locked in for music and the Video image. Realistic sound without any real coloration. Voices real. All the instruments sound like they they are supposed to.
Good WAF also lol.
Just ordered a pair from Evan today! 1000's though, he actually suggested the Micro's at first but after telling him my listening habits and tastes in some types of music, he said the 1000's would be the ticket. So January 2021 can t come soon enough!
I would absolutely recommend the 1000s over the micros, unless your PRIMARY concern is getting very small speakers! The 1000s put out SO much more bass, they are bass monsters for their size, very impressive.
When Steve gets this excited, I pay attention.
Is there a tube amp that can drive these properly? The Ohm website says 45 watts at the minimum?
Nice to see this review on omnidirectional speakers! I used to have some that were made by Mirage. I don't know why they don't get more love.
I’m debating between the Walsh Ohm 2000 and the Klipsch Forte 4. Steve, can you please tell me what your thoughts are when comparing the two?
Exactly. 🤦♀️🤨🙋♀️
Jana, pls find 3 interesting items in Steve’s apt and talk about them.
Could we please look at the speakers or the hifi you are demonstrating rather than looking at you constantly every video .
No offence.
Damn. I was really settled on Klipsch Forte IVs. But after reviewing this again, idk 🤷♀️ . . ....
Also, I would fly to NYC just for Friday Ladies Lunch! Yeah! 😆👍🤩
Let me add some info on Ohm speakers. Steve doesn't mention that there are two other speakers below the 2000's, the 1000's and the Microwalsh Talls, and speakers above the 2000's. Ohm designs their speakers to sound the same, depending on room size. I have a pair of the Microwalsh Talls, and for a smallish room they are simply outstanding. And look, I'm sure that the audiophile music that Steve mentions is just fine. I have nothing against it. But there must be others who are wondering, ok, but do they rock? Well, I can unequivocally say, they certainly do. I listen to a lot of classic rock and some newer rock music, and they never fail to do justice to the music. Jazz sounds great, classical music sounds great, blues sounds great. It all sounds great. I think a lot of people are probably put off by "omnidirectional". But Ohm's still sound like a direct firing speakers. It's just that they are very open sounding and totally box-less sounding.
Steve, I have a pair of DUEVEL Jupiter speakers. I have modified these so they go up to about 30khz!!! Flat down to 20hz. Two way, omnidirectional on the top end horn, and the up firing bass driver. They give a great center stage image from anywhere in the room. The closest thing I have ever hear as a full range, omnidirectional, single point source.
Question for Jana: The videos on your channel are epic. I keep looking out for them but they are so infrequent! Any plans to do more?
The treble description alone is a deal breaker. Too compromised. I have heard older models and didn't buy them because of that.
"I'm hearing more of the church." That is high praise indeed.
Been watching quite a few of your videos Steve. Loving them!👍😊
Just want you to know how much I appreciate your advice on audio equipment. On top of this, it seems your musical taste largely overlaps with mine, which makes me value your advice on the hardware all the more. In case you’re unaware of it, there’s an excellent documentary on Brian Eno on Amazon Prime.
You know what I love more than your reviews? Your music selection - I just get straight to it and add them to my playlists.
I had the chance to audition the Walsh's at Ohms Naval yard HQ about 10 years ago. Powered by their house rotel amp, and yes everything you say here is 100% on point!
Nice review, I appreciate your passion and the details of the music you auditioned.
.Hello Steve, you're talking about the ominidirectionnal "sound scene" and (but) I would be interrested to know what do you think of the precision of the sound, the details , the dynamic... Thanks again for your videos. Max
This is what being an audiophile is about, excitement for sound reproduction. Look forward to your video with Jana. You’ve been on a roll lately Steve, keep up the exquisite work. 🥇
RIP, Ric Ocasek, passed at age 75.
I believe he was actually 70
Not in Peace...… He's Resting In STEREO......
@@512bb -- Nope. He was born in '44.
@@512bb You might be thinking of Eddie Money who was 70. He died last Friday.
Yes you were right, the radio station I was listening to this morning reported 70 then corrected themselves a bit later. Thanks
Would these sound much better than my Magnepan MG12/QR, or my vintage Polk Monitor 10 speakers? I'd buy the Ohms 'sight unseen', judging by the many super enthusiastic accolades they have received, but i'm hundreds of thousands of dollars in medical debt!
I had a pair of OHM 3 XO...never tired of listening them.I miss them so much, had to sell them when we downsized....I miss them !! I first heard them in 1977, a neighbor had a apit of the Walsh F I think, was blown away, swore that one day I would own a pair, found hem in 1987 for $800 a pair
Ohm’s are on my list to save up for. Thanks so much for this detailed review.
I had a pair of Ohm Fs. They put their less brothers the "Walsh" series to shame. They didn't refine the Walsh, they found a way to make it cheaper with a woofer and a tweeter and mass produced it. With this and mass production they are making fortune, but these speakers are not the equal of the original Ohm F and the Ohm A.
Such a fortune!!.......the owner/engineer answers the phone......Sounds like mass production to me!
Seriously, I have heard the F and many others, they are improved(but if you hear with your eyes, the As & Fs are very cool and Robbie the Robot-looking)
The best video you've done for ages Steve. Detailed and passionate your experience really shows through. Enjoyed every moment. Thank you.
Question for your interviewer friend Jan to you.
What lab grade amp would you use to plowed the Klipsch K-Horns with? I still strongly feel that the K-Horns are the best sounding and most efficient speakers ever made. Paul Klipsch got it right 70 years ago.
But you must power them with quality power. Not a lot of wattage necessarily. But clean.
Any suggestions?
way back in the day EPI put out different combos of it's basic trad 'bookshelf spks'..... such as EPI 250 I think, one EPI 100 forward, one up. and was it the EPI 400 with an EPI 100 on each of 4 sides, that is ' omni'. probably no doubt with much different crossovers. I heard them at a stereo store playing Mahavishnu, sounded amazing, maybe I was just in the mood.....
The defunct Bose 901 had the "omnidirectional" principle, too. I ignore why audiophiles shunned it.
The 901 is not an omni speaker, it's just one that could play loud and clean. Surprisingly loud, for it's compact size - it was one of the first speakers to really impress me.
I want a pair SOOOO BAD!!!!! Klipsch fan over here. Forte 3 is my favorite speaker right now. I have a mini old school Klipsch collection. Forte was my first real speaker and they still run perfectly. I've always wanted a pair of these guys! I remember seeing adds as a kid around 86' 87' and then hearing them in person at a friend's house. His dad bought a new pair and wanted to show off. I was blown away. It was my first introduction to high quality sound reproduction. I thought his pare looked like the Dalek from Dr.Who. I was kind of scared of them. They got down too! Very engaging sound. I love that this guy loves these speakers. I would just like to hear a pair again. This where my obsession started. 9 years old. We listened to a lot of music on those guys. Best in the neighborhood.
They were not the 2000s
Lincoln Walsh is one of my heroes. Heard the originals at Henry Radio in Anaheim, when I was a kid. Never forgot it. Read an article about Walsh, almost blind, shuffling about his workshop, trying to put his theories to reality. Incredibly inspiring.
My mind boggles that in your 30 whatever years in hifi Ohm's barely registered with you. I wonder if that is related to your newfound love of horns? As with those I am guessing that you are now perceiving home music listening as an total experience. As opposed, somehow, to just fidelity, whatever that is.
Nobody now can relate to what a revelation hifi was to me and millions of others in the late 60's when decent full range speakers and powerful transistor amps burst into homes, and dorm rooms. What is now routine was life altering. So much so that recorded music sales grossed more than movies for several years and hifi stores littered the suburbs. Now Best Buy has two aisles with some dusty components.
Music as an experience is simply not very appealing much less addictive to most people. They just don't get it.
Now your job Steve is to keep these and continue switching to your fav available horn and try to decide which provides you, stressing you, the best experience, consistently. Not the best sound. The best experience.
I appreciate that you bring up the Mag LRS but let’s be reminded that the LRS is $600 and the Ohms are $2,800. I wonder what 4 pairs of LRS’s would sound like. 😁
Great review!
I was dreaming of ommnidirectional speakers but the MBL's are an impossibility. These are "reasonably" priced.
Thanks!
Thank you Steve, I just order a pairs of walsh 1000 after see your video. Talk to John over the phone great guy i did mention to John that after seeing your video i have to order a pairs. The waiting list right now is two months out can’t wait to get them. Thanks again Steven.
I’m not a “showtunes” person, but get your Ohms set up to your satisfaction and then put a broadway or movie cast recording and you will experience just what capabilities Steve is talking about. The cast, the orchestra, and the stage are spread out with the space between each defined completely free of the speakers. Opera is good and pure, but the show recordings show off the Ohms even better!
I really love Jana's videos. She adds a sense of style. Her system overviews are very, very cool! I enjoy the story behind the story. It will be interesting to see what you do together.
Hi Steve,
First off thanks for the video about the ohms. For as long as they have been around I do think feel they get enough coverage. As good as these speakers are, I'm told the larger ones are even better. More money of course. I think you should do more ohms speaker reviews at different price points.
Questions for jana. First off thanks for all the work you do for putting together Steve and darkos videos. You do great work. Please go through what a typical day for you is like with your work? What other publications or video work do you do as well? Could you explain the steps for putting together these videos ? What video editing software you use? How much input do you give, if any, to Steve or darko when making these? Thanks jana for you wonderful videos 😀
Excellent review Steve. I had MBL's for years and you did a good job of explaining the omnidirectional "sound".
That Apollo album by Brian eno is very good !
More than good. Gets played here at least three times a year. I have ~2,500 album titles and my collection has more Eno than any other artist by a ratio of at least 3:1. I have been a fan since the first two Roxy Music albums. The Ry Cooder's fantastic also.
Used to have ohm Walsh 2s. Loved the clarity and soundstage but found the tonal balance was a bit on the light side. Hope to hear the 2000s to compare someday.
Thanks for the intro to El Secunda
Steve ,i have a pair of Ohm walsh ,,,Im getting back into Hi Fi,retired musician,,thinking of getting a Musical Fidelity M6 si and aeversolo DMP -A6 do u think that would match up to my speakers,without breaking the bank..lol
I'd like to see a review of the mini walsh model, interested to know if things that small can make good sound. I have a small room so considering the minis as an option.
I sold the Ohm "F"'s back in the 70's at the Audio Warehouse, in Akron, Ohio. When listening at full tilt they would emit smoke through the grill, presumably from the epoxy glue on the driver.
Try some recordings made with a "dummy head" / sphere mic setup - sometimes called a "holographic" recording.
Steve; your enthusiasm is infectious. Don't want these as I have Magicos but you open my eyes (or ears) to omnidirectionals. Yet another 'like'.
How would you compare aforementioned Ohm Walsh speakers with Bose 901 ? The main gripe about 901's is lack of bass, but they too also fill a room.
I have a Samsung r3 omnidirectional speaker and I love that thing. 360 degree sound is perfect imo.
Try 3D Virtual effect on an old better Sound Blaster X-Fi card, that's the best thing in audio and no one knows about it, try it with OB or even better No Baffle FR units from 400Hz + bass helpers how ever you want even BR is good
Infinity WTLC speakers in the 1975s used a Walsh tweeter and was state of the art…
You have to hear these to understand why they make real sound.. MBL is a big buck example..
absolutely Love your music recommendations! ... ! ... !
Great review Steve. I've been wanting a pair just for the design experience, Think, I'm gonna do open baffles first. Ron and Danny pretty much sold me and I'm a Diy kinda guy.. Crazy cat guy 😹. Z, has definitely sold me on the OHM... Maybe someday... 👍
So funny how people shift their view point, these are ok because they bounce the sound off the walls, Bose 901's do that but they are bad. Magnepans do the same being dipole and thats ok but 901's still bad. Just add a separate tweeter to 901' and a sub, what then audiophiles? 😂
I own a few sets of canon s50 omni speakers and they seem to have a lot of what this review set have , ive never upgraded as i have not found anything better, could these be my next set?
Nice to see the actual products displayed in the video. That’s a lot of extra work for a one man band in his daily show. Appreciate the extra effort. Lots of discs to seek out; that too is always appreciated. I’m going to create a special section for Audiophiliac recommends one these days. Keep ‘em coming.
I picked up a pair of used Ohm Walsh 2s -- probably made about 1981 -- a couple of years ago. Loved the imaging initially -- the hight was stunning, as you say -- but I started wondering, "Where's the detail? Where's the high end?" I wondered if it would be worth doing the upgrade that Ohm offers for newer drivers -- something around $2,000 to do. Given your lukewarm description of the highs of the 2000s, it sounds like the answer is no. As much as I wanted to love these, I'm afraid it's time to put them up for sale.
keep them upgrade would be $1400.... i want ohm walsh 5000 but i want it closer to the wall like allison speaekrs or larsen speakers which is like ohm and aliison had a kid. John can improve the metal can design be using a folded ribbon tweeter and 5 inch away from the wall. With the xxxx design everything is in the can now so upgrades in the future will be easy.
@@braxtkj I'd also need to replace the grills ($120) and ship it back and forth. Add it up and it's close to $2,000 for a set of speakers I'm not certain will address the issues I have with the current ones. I can buy a nice pair of new speakers under $2,000 that I can audition in advance or buy any number of worthy vintage speakers for well under that. So I don't think keeping them makes much sense.
Oh my, and here I thought Larsen's where my only option since my room is tight. Thanks Mr Audiophiliac.
It's funny you bring up Brian Eno for crazy imaging, one of my go-tos for that is Slowdive's Sing, which he was in on : ) That would be an awesome interview!
Mirage OM-5 were my all time favorite speakers! Had them for ten years and should not have let them go. Might try these....Hopefully Canadians can get them easily.
I love Mirage and own M3si at the moment. What a speaker. I don't know where I should look at to improve. Maybe these Ohm Talls is a good direction? Dunno...
I have the Mirage M1si and they can fill a room with music too . . . Happy listening
I can't wait for your video with Jana!
She is absolutely stunning and brilliant!
I am so very jealous.
Good gravy now I want a pair. I'm trying to think how long it's been since I heard an Ohm anything...two decades at least. Really good to see John has continued refining them to this point!
Even though I don’t own any Ohm Walsh products, they are the reason why I got into audio. I even made an ad hoc version during the 80’s by taking an existing pair of Aiwa speakers and mounting the speakers like the Ohm’s. If it wasn’t for my love for Magnepan’s, Vandersteens, and B&W... I would try these out.
Best tweeters I ever heard were home made. A friend had glued piezo transducers to the top and bottom of ping pong balls. They generated 360° in every plane! The sound field was phenomenal and the volume remained remarkably similar no matter the distance from them. Only problem was that every so often one of the piezo devices would self-destruct. Possibly because as Steve notes with the Ohms, you want to listen at concert levels. Magic moments!
So Magnepan LRS is “more transparent and refined”… so why is Ohm better? 😅
Now, test Zetazero orbitals ;) greatest audio reviewer never heard greatest omni speakers? wtf?
I spoke to Eno at a Moogfest in Asheville a few years ago. Very approachable and interesting. And he signed and decorated my phantom of the opera Halloween mask!
Why isn’t there an audio store in Asheville? Not limited to cars or home security. 🤨
I wonder if Steve Decware’s UFO tube amp can drive this speaker?
Omni directional speakers, by reflecting so much sound off of the walls, give you ears lots of information to locate the speakers exactly. So they produce an image that is located precisely at each speaker or somewhere on a line between them. They work well for playing recordings with no venue reverb or ambience information and will create a performance in your room highlighting your room ambience. Highly directional speakers, by not reflecting much sound off the walls, floor and ceiling, give you much less information about the location of the speakers in the room and therefore open a window into the recorded space when the recording has reverb or room ambience information in the recording. Playing dual mono recordings like the Beatles - Black Bird on Omni directional speakers is like having Paul sitting in your room exactly where one of your speakers is sitting, performing in your room, his voice reflecting off your wall as if he were there. The Beolab 90 owners manual gives a great explanation of this idea. The Walsh speakers having limited vertical dispersion miss out on some of the effect of a true omni.