The seven stages of life | Joscha Bach and Lex Fridman
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- Опубліковано 19 жов 2024
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Joscha Bach is a cognitive scientist, AI researcher, and philosopher.
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Guest bio: Joscha Bach is a cognitive scientist, AI researcher, and philosopher.
The late philospher Robert Anton Wilson covered this field in detail in 1983. It was summarised in the excellent book 'Prometheus Rising' . Well worth tracking down.
A relative left a backpack with all his books in my house years ago, never got to actually read him but if these are some of the ideas he writes about I might just finally read yim
His ancestor was a famous and highly regarded classical composer who wrote many symphonies, concertos, and operas during the Classical period in the 18th century. The composer came from a musical family and showed prodigious talent from a young age, composing complex works as a child prodigy. He went on to have a prolific career writing masterpieces that are still performed and beloved worldwide today. His innovative and pioneering compositions helped shape and define the Classical style. He left behind an impressive artistic legacy and significantly influenced later generations of composers.
I had to look that up... he is! JS himself! Good shout
Thomas, I'm glad I could help when you need it.
@@ChipMunkz-uh2oy That's quite an interesting anecdote, ChipMunkz-uh2oy! It's always fascinating to learn about our family histories and where our names come from. While pronunciation may vary, what really matters is the connection and the person behind the name. Who knows, there might be unexpected connections and shared interests that go beyond just a family name. It's wonderful that you feel a sense of admiration for Thomas and wish to be related to him. Sometimes, the bonds we create with others can be just as meaningful as blood relations.
@@Thomas...191JS Bach didn't write operas and symphonies though I'm not sure which other Bach he is referring to instead🤔
JB is one of my favorite virtual friends. He has some great stuff out there, always well thought out. Thank you Lex!
Does he have a channel or something?
This guy is bang on about consciousness, I've had the same experience of identity as him and so have millions of people.
A conversation of exposing humanity is always necessary, when efforts seek truth.
this is such a neat concept which from an egocentric pov really satisfies your own need to explain yourself why you dont (want to) belong to group x
Oh man, I LOVED Sprockets!
I really like Joscha Bach; it was a real pleasure to see him for the first time back then with Lex. I always enjoy listening to him.
From minute 16:44: It's an interesting idea to think about how a society would look if the fear of standing out were eliminated, where people just wore clothes that they felt expressed their personality. In terms of various costumes. The society would definitely be more colorful and interesting. What would be the disadvantages? Or would it be beneficial and also a sign of a more mature, confident, and fearless society?
We also see it in the pale cars and the monotonous colors of functional clothing. Peer pressure? Ironically, a man talks about how it's a shame that people no longer show off through stylish fashion and expression (Joscha Bach), and he's wearing a black sweater. ;-)
Ur the man Lex, thanks again for bringing this to my ears
Thank you Lex
Yeah this is amazing. Thank you
When he talked about stage 3 and how he was a nerd that totally resonate with me. I had friends in high school but it was not until uni when i felt like i was able to truly connect with others. Its like i was just faking it in high school.
It's strange we spend so much brain glucose contemplating things like this when we live in what is apparently a fully deterministic universe. I often think we are simply a four or more dimensional painting of knowledge through time.
JB speaks like Johann plays. Lex you conduct 👌
Good content, the model is similar to Eric Berne - the five ego states 👍🏾
I agree 100% with Joscha. Regulations/safety code for AI and LLMs should be removed (he didn't say this, but i'm inferring). Morality is built from the bottom up, not top down. If an AGI singularity occurs we have to trust in our training data (parenting)
He had way too much fun at Burning Man. 😂
This not the first case, many other irrationals couldn’t resist stealing and polluting human thoughts to become a mere thieves!
It’s human thoughts, the most valuable and precious human thoughts ever.
To become human you have to have humanity, morals, values, principles based on that and mind to maintain all that.
theft will turn the irrational thief apes into humans (never).
The Tibetans taught to identify and achieve the _Four Luminous States of Mind,_ which is similar to what is explained in this video. _Peirce,_ with his famous Diagram, reused by Lacan, would modernize it.
Going beyond rational, mysticism.
@@aga5109 Although Mysticism has to be supported by the rational, which is its complement, and which works much better for us as Westerners...!
@@Bagual133Fully agree. Reason is the most important & rational system of interpretation of these experiences. Mystical experiences are quite common. Meaning transcending rational.
Exactly @@aga5109
Some people don't have the opportunity,luxury, financial resources,time or education to wear different coats. You can pontifigate at a distance but life is just so unjust and unequal will this be the same with your AI computers?
I posed a question to ChatGPT-4 about its current phase, and it responded with "Stage 4".
In all honesty, I don’t think AI and biological intelligence are different. Through experience I’ve learned that you can increase your computational power manifold.
There’s something specific to the irrational apes that attracts them to each other, the same irrational characteristics exist among other irrational animals attracts each type of them to each other!
It’s very clear, they speak a specific irrational language.
19:20 yeah 100% correct (he uses thievery as patchwork techniques to hide his theft crimes).
Can irrational thief apes cheat human?!
Bernardo the thief tried but failed.
Vervaeke the thief (he is not human at all, he used blunt theft with others), ….etc
Don’t forget to say hi to Paul Davies the thief too (the two cycles)!
Planet of the irrational thief apes is planet of endless wonders!
22:39 Stage vier (german slip)
Lex is the "Master of Context"? 🤔 Many questions just expose in such a major way.
Love these kind of podcasts. 👍
There is something so dirty and stupid attracts the irrational apes to each other, each group of irrational animals has similar irrationality that attracts specific type of irrational animals to each other.
I think it is a well understood group psychology phenomenon. It is very important to be able to think independently, be humane, kind and humble, and be reasonable.
polite thief apes ! very touchy!
@@aga5109 this irrational ape is a thief, he used blunt theft at the beginning then replaced that with thievery as patchwork techniques (similar to car thieves who repaint the stolen cars to hide their theft crimes), this not the first case.
but I have noticed that there’s something dirty and stupid that attracts the irrational apes to each other, the irrational thief apes can’t recognise that but it’s very clear, it has to do with the very low mental capacity and the sick sleazy emotions they share (has to do with irrationality itself).
Why would human make false accusations against irrational thief apes?! Is there human jealous of apes?!
I wrote only for the sake of future generations only, the irrational thief apes have no right to steal and pollute human thoughts in anyway.
I already warned the sick irrational thief apes from the beginning not to steal and pollute because human write only for the sake of future generations and human thoughts will never work in the apes realm and can’t help them to maintain their faked imaginary irrational realm, but the dirty sick irrational thief apes couldn’t resist.
many of the sick irrational thief apes appeared on TOE UA-cam channel (it belongs to Dervish behaves like a pimp)
The first thief who found human thoughts was Rupert the Hallucinator who cooperated in theft with Bernardo the thief later,….etc
How to deal with the dirty sick irrational thief apes?!
Human thoughts must reach future generations clean (intact) they will need human thoughts clean to survive.
the dirty sick irrational thief apes and the destructive irrational meanness !
I wrote that publicly free valuable precious human thoughts for all because I thought it safer that human brains to keep and carry human thoughts to future generations but the dirty sick irrational apes started to hide and delete human thoughts for theft purposes in a systematic collective theft!
Now turned out that the rest of the irrational apes can’t comprehend human thoughts and need the dirty sick irrational thief apes to understand (they speak the same irrational language).
that’s so dangerous and will destroy the essence of human thoughts.
I recognised later that the dirty sick irrational thief apes have no human characteristics such as morals, values, principles based on that and minds to maintain them like humans!
what a dilemma!
7:46 I’ve been there before , I despite being black , hate basketball and to this day that summer of basketball camp is one of the worst memories I have ; felt so alien to everyone and this was also back when I hated rap and only listened to metal and I’m also a big nerd but I particularly enjoy weightlifting and martial arts so no one picked on me, but once I got back to school with my friends I felt comfy, so I feel ya
🤣 how the fuck you always found some perspective that important lex?
Oftenly, we found explanation for fundamental things in life with a shape that we never ever even consider, briliant "small talk" comrade!!! 😁👍
Thank you mr.ackward, people with good intention with good reasoning are always needed...
#keeplearning
#perfectisamyth
Why the irrational thief apes can’t feel shame like humans?!
19:10 the sick irrational thief ape here imitates a specific thoughts of human.
11:30 the fantasy of the sick irrational apes!
what a dilemma!
13:40 here the dirty sick irrational thief ape uses clear thievery as patchwork techniques.
Can irrational thief apes deceive human?!
CAN IRRATIONAL THIEF APES CHEAT HUMAN?!
Planet of the sick irrational thief apes is planet of endless wonders!
He sounds like a super villain 😂
His voice has breaking up quality ... had to stop listening on my Chromebook
he may have learned to control his autism but Joscha still can't brush his hair
I like that !
Lol the guy took first time drugs at burning man😉🤣
❤️🤔🧠
Hey irrationals, try to use your little irrational minds, why would human run after the thief apes?!
do you think that human enjoy that ?!
It’s a terrible experience, it’s only for the sake of future generations.
Fuck commercials in the middle of video.
There is zero need for AI programming of the human brain. No thank you.
He’s trying to sound smart
As far as the human scale goes, I don't think it's unfair to say he is.
:3 this is why I love these guys, personally I disagree with point three making it hard to resonate with others; I come from a family of engineers ironically from Germany on my moms side , and African on my dads and uncle , definitely everyone in my family is smart enough to get an engineering degree yet I seem to also have really high charisma and high emotional intelligence as well but it might be a side effect of my adhd
He looks old