I think it’s simply because he seemed to be ready to get his life back on track. He got his job back, and realized he still loved Liberty. And then he was just gone. We love a good redemption arc, and he was robbed of his.
Yes thank you!!! The way he treated Liberty literally pissed me off rewatching the show and I just couldn't get on board with them being a couple. He was a bad boyfriend and a bad friend to Toby icing him out, especially after Rick died. I cheered when Toby told everyone on JT's wet dreams. JT didn't deserved to die it just always bothered me that the fandom painted him as a saint when in reality he wasn't a good friend or boyfriend.
I think the writers wanted to send him off like some sort of hero, but I'm still trying to figure when & how Liberty ended up with JT in the 1st place...He couldn't stand her for years, then boom they're in hot tubs making out and using too big condoms...was there an episode that led to their relationship starting? He had a small glow up, but JT was nobody's stud muffin...
He gave liberty one to many compliments and she pounced 😂 but he didn't retreat this time. Could be post shooting trauma bonds, Could be mutual hate for principal Raditch, could be watching her pop her shit at Raditch gave a boner but it was UP from there 😂
JT has done some pretty awful things; be rude to Liberty, icing out Toby, especially after Rick was murdered, coercing Liberty into sleeping with him, and then being a dick during her pregnancy, etc. overall, he had his redeeming qualities. The whole point of Degrassi is a show flawed characters and how they deal with situations.
I wouldn't say Rick was murdered. Rick had the gun in his hand and pulled the trigger. Shawn just tried to restrain him. Also what episode did JT coerce liberty? I don't remember that.
I always felt this way too and I also feel this way about the Liberty and Jt ship because they shown mostly toxic rather than happy but people wanna say it was one of the best relationships but I think it’s because of how they were when they were younger.
I was so down bad for Degrassi back in middle school I lost my ish when JT d*ied. I cried for like 2 hours HAHAHA I went to school depressed and had a RIP JT on my binder HAHAHA then the next episode with is funeral and that song singing “if I were to die today, my life would be more than okay.” I cried for 2 more hours hahahahaha
I've never understood Liberty's obsession with JT. He was a great twerp character, but he should have stayed in that lane. Liberty had no reason to be into him
I always referred to JT as the "Allison Argent" of Degrassi because he was a semi-problematic character who was extremely over glorified after his death. Unpopular opinion but I think his exit would've made way more sense if he was killed while dealing drugs in season 5.
This is true but then it wouldn’t have been as cute. But I totally agree. JT had a habit of getting in over his head about things and not understanding the reality of situations.
I feel like you could do this with any degrassi character though. The whole thing about the series to me is no one is perfect and everyone does shitty things
She made me so upset especially when she got mad that liberty and toby were not letting her take out JT’s stuff out of his locker. Like you barely knew him 😭🤦♀️🤦♀️
@@rachel217-JG and not for nothing, if ANYONE at Degrassi could understand Liberty, it should have been Mia. She was literally the only other teen mom at the school. Yes, her baby daddy was trash. But if Lucas was killed she would have lost it. She gave Liberty no empathy because she lowkey knew JT’s heart was with her.
"what in the date r*pe hell" is that really a fair comment to make since jt's plan was that /he/ would take the drugs? he wasn't drugging the other women and he had no idea ashley would take it instead.
well, the way i saw it, the plan is to take a pill that will make he and toby horny and then they'd "give them some love" because they'd be all zooted from the E. aka, they'd pester the girls since now they have the courage to do so.
THANK YOU! I thought I was the only one. I don’t hate JT I actually really liked him in the start but as the seasons went on his character got sort of mean spirited when he got older. The way he treated liberty and Toby kinda rubbed me the wrong way.
I personally believe that JT's overarching storyline throughout the series was supposed to be about him learning how to respect women, with his hamster storyline with Hatzikakos being his turning point. However, after that the show started veering towards storylines that caused the most drama, so as a result he became insufferable. One of my personal theories that I held for at least a year is that a lot of Peter's storylines were scrapped JT plots, specifically his meth weekend and relationship with Mia. All the setup was there, like him bringing ecstasy to a party at age 13, the rough family life where he lives with his grandma and doesn't know where his father went, being easily peer pressured, and his drug dealing storyline. I believe they gave Peter those traits straight out the gate because they probably knew they were writing JT off by the time Peter was introduced. Sometimes I feel like characters are introduced solely to introduce storylines they couldn't give to present characters due to time constraints, but that's a totally different conversation altogether (My favorite example of this is introducing Zoe after Tori was written out).
@@aspyn.j_ Yeah seeing you comment on Degrassi Classic would be interesting, especially with the historical context due to it coming out in the late 80s-early 90s
Edit: what do jt, emma, and *MANNY have in common 😊 And he definitely was going to audition before he met Mia. He was in the classroom with liberty when he said he was gonna get his old job back and started dancing with his mouth full much to liberty's annoyance. But I also can't stand Mia. 😂
@@aspyn.j_ I always thought that he was low-key trying to make liberty jealous (it definitely worked whether that was his intention or not) but the whole time he was talking to her he kept looking over his shoulder at liberty (who was definitely watching). Then when she went to talk to him. He was all ears until miss Thang ran up interrupting and Liberty LET HER. That's what blew me. Mind you I hate a bitter BM but that was her moment to the "my baby dady" card. Like "sure just give me a second, I REALLY need to talk to my baby deddy" 😂
Mia was on some bs. why date someone who leaked one girls nudes (Manny) and virtually pimped out another girl (Darcy) to an online creep? it's especially bad since she had a child to think about and Peter became a drug addict.
I think it’s simply because he seemed to be ready to get his life back on track. He got his job back, and realized he still loved Liberty. And then he was just gone. We love a good redemption arc, and he was robbed of his.
I agree with this.
Yes thank you!!! The way he treated Liberty literally pissed me off rewatching the show and I just couldn't get on board with them being a couple. He was a bad boyfriend and a bad friend to Toby icing him out, especially after Rick died. I cheered when Toby told everyone on JT's wet dreams. JT didn't deserved to die it just always bothered me that the fandom painted him as a saint when in reality he wasn't a good friend or boyfriend.
Right I agree, he shouldn’t have died but if he was still alive I think people would look at him differently.
JT was really written like an immature child. The writters and actor did a good job.
I think the writers wanted to send him off like some sort of hero, but I'm still trying to figure when & how Liberty ended up with JT in the 1st place...He couldn't stand her for years, then boom they're in hot tubs making out and using too big condoms...was there an episode that led to their relationship starting? He had a small glow up, but JT was nobody's stud muffin...
It was when they worked together during the school play after the shooting.
He gave liberty one to many compliments and she pounced 😂 but he didn't retreat this time. Could be post shooting trauma bonds, Could be mutual hate for principal Raditch, could be watching her pop her shit at Raditch gave a boner but it was UP from there 😂
Ashley’s poetry omgggg😂😂😂😂
I completely forgot JT was the one who got the molly
JT has done some pretty awful things; be rude to Liberty, icing out Toby, especially after Rick was murdered, coercing Liberty into sleeping with him, and then being a dick during her pregnancy, etc. overall, he had his redeeming qualities. The whole point of Degrassi is a show flawed characters and how they deal with situations.
I wouldn't say Rick was murdered. Rick had the gun in his hand and pulled the trigger. Shawn just tried to restrain him. Also what episode did JT coerce liberty? I don't remember that.
I always felt this way too and I also feel this way about the Liberty and Jt ship because they shown mostly toxic rather than happy but people wanna say it was one of the best relationships but I think it’s because of how they were when they were younger.
Why would you say something so controversial and yet be so right???
I’m so annoyed with what they did with Liberty and JT,they had this small build up,they finally got together and it went left QUICKLY
NO UPPER LIP😭
I was so down bad for Degrassi back in middle school I lost my ish when JT d*ied. I cried for like 2 hours HAHAHA I went to school depressed and had a RIP JT on my binder HAHAHA then the next episode with is funeral and that song singing “if I were to die today, my life would be more than okay.” I cried for 2 more hours hahahahaha
I've never understood Liberty's obsession with JT. He was a great twerp character, but he should have stayed in that lane. Liberty had no reason to be into him
I always referred to JT as the "Allison Argent" of Degrassi because he was a semi-problematic character who was extremely over glorified after his death. Unpopular opinion but I think his exit would've made way more sense if he was killed while dealing drugs in season 5.
This is true but then it wouldn’t have been as cute. But I totally agree. JT had a habit of getting in over his head about things and not understanding the reality of situations.
I feel like you could do this with any degrassi character though. The whole thing about the series to me is no one is perfect and everyone does shitty things
Well one of the things about the series
I always say JT would have been Emma's MATCH. He wouldve matched her energy and met her whereever she was at! The checking wouldve been emaculant! 😂
Yea honestly how did Emma land Sean lol?
YOU’RE BACK
I never even cared for him as a character. I also don't tend to care much for the comedic relief types
She’s back with Degrassi yayy
Exactly. I couldn't watch the Sex And The City vids because I haven't watched it
I totally forgot how horrible he was to Liberty (and others). 😮
Oh god not Mia🙄
She made me so upset especially when she got mad that liberty and toby were not letting her take out JT’s stuff out of his locker. Like you barely knew him 😭🤦♀️🤦♀️
@@rachel217-JG and not for nothing, if ANYONE at Degrassi could understand Liberty, it should have been Mia. She was literally the only other teen mom at the school. Yes, her baby daddy was trash. But if Lucas was killed she would have lost it. She gave Liberty no empathy because she lowkey knew JT’s heart was with her.
Lmao the small mia roast
"what in the date r*pe hell" is that really a fair comment to make since jt's plan was that /he/ would take the drugs? he wasn't drugging the other women and he had no idea ashley would take it instead.
well, the way i saw it, the plan is to take a pill that will make he and toby horny and then they'd "give them some love" because they'd be all zooted from the E. aka, they'd pester the girls since now they have the courage to do so.
THANK YOU! I thought I was the only one. I don’t hate JT I actually really liked him in the start but as the seasons went on his character got sort of mean spirited when he got older. The way he treated liberty and Toby kinda rubbed me the wrong way.
Taking me back to middle school 😩 🙏 💕
I personally believe that JT's overarching storyline throughout the series was supposed to be about him learning how to respect women, with his hamster storyline with Hatzikakos being his turning point. However, after that the show started veering towards storylines that caused the most drama, so as a result he became insufferable.
One of my personal theories that I held for at least a year is that a lot of Peter's storylines were scrapped JT plots, specifically his meth weekend and relationship with Mia. All the setup was there, like him bringing ecstasy to a party at age 13, the rough family life where he lives with his grandma and doesn't know where his father went, being easily peer pressured, and his drug dealing storyline. I believe they gave Peter those traits straight out the gate because they probably knew they were writing JT off by the time Peter was introduced.
Sometimes I feel like characters are introduced solely to introduce storylines they couldn't give to present characters due to time constraints, but that's a totally different conversation altogether (My favorite example of this is introducing Zoe after Tori was written out).
Here for the Mia slander
SOMEBODY HAD TO SAY IT AND I COMPLETELY AGREE
There are things I love about JT, but I couldn’t agree more. Very overrated in the Degrassi fandom. I actually found other deaths sadder.
This is so random but have you ever noticed Andrea Lewis was never highlighted in any of the shows opening credits?
😳😳😳😳 shit I think you’re right
Degrassi is one of my fav shows too, I love your take.
WITH LOONA AND MOLLY, A CLOWN N HER DOLLY, ON THE BIG COMFY COUCH ❤
😭😭😭😭 I feel so seen thank you 🤣
Liberty should’ve dated Chris and I stand on that.
Please do a video on Zoe Rivas
I have not gotten that far in the series…I still need to watch Degrassi Jr high!!
@@aspyn.j_ Yeah seeing you comment on Degrassi Classic would be interesting, especially with the historical context due to it coming out in the late 80s-early 90s
Edit: what do jt, emma, and *MANNY have in common 😊
And he definitely was going to audition before he met Mia. He was in the classroom with liberty when he said he was gonna get his old job back and started dancing with his mouth full much to liberty's annoyance. But I also can't stand Mia. 😂
Ugh you’re right he did but you know that really cemented his decision lol
@@aspyn.j_ I always thought that he was low-key trying to make liberty jealous (it definitely worked whether that was his intention or not) but the whole time he was talking to her he kept looking over his shoulder at liberty (who was definitely watching). Then when she went to talk to him. He was all ears until miss Thang ran up interrupting and Liberty LET HER. That's what blew me. Mind you I hate a bitter BM but that was her moment to the "my baby dady" card. Like "sure just give me a second, I REALLY need to talk to my baby deddy" 😂
I hate JT lol
not to sound cruel, but because he died.
hey now leave my girl mia out of this :(
Mia was on some bs. why date someone who leaked one girls nudes (Manny) and virtually pimped out another girl (Darcy) to an online creep? it's especially bad since she had a child to think about and Peter became a drug addict.