Honestly considered moving that tower up on the tierlist, but it seems too much like a crackhead endgame saver instead of a tower you actually want to use
It's definitely not something you buy and use much early on, definitely a tower that grows in value the later into a game you are specifically after round 80
Yeah it's not really a hardcarry midgame dps, and the support part comes from coc, so it ends up in a pretty weird place. Tbh it feels like a Tech Terror lol
Old Unstable Concoction used to be so damn good it was broken. If you're lacking raw damage it's great as a helper for the 90's. But yeah nothing you want to go out of your way to use anymore :(
As an unstable concoction, i can honestly say i had no idea there was more upgrades. Are there upgrades to other towers i don't know about? Like after triple dart monkey?
Oh and by the way, the reason that the money amounts haven't been the same most of the time was due to the fact that when regrows aren't fully popped, the layers you didn't reach on *every bloon* count as pops for cash
@@superbaas8822they did, but there's still a glitch Like if you pop a regrow black, and then fully pop one of the pinks inside, when the other pink regrows, and you hit it with a 2-0-0 sniper, the game thinks that both pink layers are giving cash even though only one of them is But if you just pop it one damage at a time, it loads the cash layers correctly
@@superbaas8822 But extra instances of layers you havent popped yet still do even to this day. Say you pop a rainbow with 1 damage into 2 zebras on r79. You let it regrow to 2 rainbows and then pop them again with 1 damage. All 4 zebras count for money, giving you 2 zebras worth of extra gold if you then one shot all 4 zebras, than you are suppossed to have. This works on all the bloon multiple children spawns on r80 or earlier, due to super ceramics on r81+ canceling the multi spawns that makes this work. This is why you can afford to get Permabrew for the BEZ/Perma 2tc during round 93 on the current 44.1 patch when if you check the math and see what youre suppossed to earn, you shouldnt afford it till r95, and prior to the price buff you werent suppossed to be able to at all due to it suppossed to come up around 98 in which you'd have lost already on 95 due to the ddts killing you. Yet this combo was discovered *Months* ago for the first time, and yes it requires Permabrew's uptime on AMD for this to work. The regrow farm works. As tracking/deciding which children are allowed to give cash and how many would clearly be complicated in a way that sounds most unsavory to Performance, let alone the programmers' headaches while fixing it, I can see why it has yet to be addressed despite being known and discussed off and on within the community for several months now. It's not Wide spread information, sure, it is arguably demonstratably niche, but it still ends up fascinating.
@@VoxelowoAlso a note to add is that it is not infinite. You can only claim the extra pink money once per Bloon. And there is a really cool video going in depth, and doing a run getting all the bonus money possible, I don't remember who uploaded it though.
Pretty sure that you can’t make an extra 15k with it and none of the towers that you can use for the strat (down draft and dots) were placed down. He also has an engi foam that removes regrow
I always hear about ceram rushes but I never hear about how to deal with them, my sum of knowledge is 1. buy the tower 2. it either kills your run or outpops your hero
@@emberembr2944 weird question but does spiked balls deal with the cerams? EDIT: i'd expect it to be good cause it deals extra damage to them (and i think fortified too) and supercerams have most of their RBE in that layer
@@justenoughrandomness8989 i'd say yeah. On some maps, like Sunken Columns, i'd buy two spiked balls Spike Factories near the end of the track, they do a very good job.
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Its not the transforming tonic itself as much as the unstable concoction. Did some testing with an alchemist and a sun avatar on round 98, once with the tonic ability and once without. The alchemist damage was 98k without and 96k with the ability (the ability stops it from throwing concoctions) The tier 3 also got equal damage, so it doesnt get any hidden buffs with the upgrade. Crosspath or the lack of one didnt change the damage. This makes unstable concoction by far the most cost efficient round 98 damage dealer, but the tier 4 ability doesnt seem worth it, even being self-sabotaging.
i remember 050 alch used to have a bug with 050 dart where if you used both abilities at the same time it would do absurd damage, i even popped the sandbox test bloon using that method
@@ZephyramGwhile it does currently works with AZ, pretty sure the shinobi tactics and poplust synergies are far stronger. I believe druid of wrath attack speed stacks and grand saboteurs +1 Moab damage can be combined as well.
I will say that Transforming Tonic is VERY solid for Round 95. It's how Flying Fortress with Churchill on Off The Coast is possible, in fact, as I streamed as much a few days before you uploaded this. That 20 second duration conveniently coincides with the spawn duration for Round 95's DDTs, by far the longest spawn duration of the DDT rounds on the regular CHIMPS runs. That said, however, it's not good against Ceramics, so it absolutely needs supports against them. It also has limited effectiveness against the BAD, shockingly worse than that of Spike Storm top crosspath in fact.
Transforming tonic would be a lot better if it wasn't locked behind a 3000 dollar tier 3 upgrade that does absolutely nothing until the final stretch of the game. The ability's actually pretty good on its own, but it's impractical to go for in most games because of unstable concoction's aforementioned uselessness in the midgame. You basically end up paying the same amount you would to get a summon phoenix... minus the global range and really strong tier 3 that comes before the ability. Bit of a shame. Wish they would rework middle path alch to make it a bit more useful throughout more of the game.
Tonic is still solid in mid-game, just not close to D breath solid. I think the real reason is that concoction needs stuff to pop to work, and the tower without the ability just isn't close to cutting it, so it can't be very integral damage in your defense without a lot of stalls. I think a good way to buff this tower would be to buff the cool down a lot but nerf the transformed tier 4.
SMFC is only slightly less expensive to be significantly weaker unless you mix in more Dart Monkeys, and Tonic at least pops Leads off the bat. I would be for Tonic having its overall price decreased, though, but with Tonic's activation having a significantly longer cooldown so that it's still working better with a good role, but NOT capable of getting away with poor usage. Still, honestly, it's amazing that a lot of towers with moderate costs just aren't good against DDTs at all even when they're visible.
IMO alch is the best tower in the game. Pretty sure base alch is cheapest r28 lead popping, perishing pots is a 20 damage tier 2 upgrade (find anything close to that at tier 2), unstable concoction is also just absurd damage for the price, berserker brew/stronger stim are the best path of any tower in the game, lead to gold & rubber to gold are surprisingly good income, hell even BMA has, to my knowledge, the highest non-paragon dps out of any tower in the ultra late game besides P lord and maybe xxl trap.
to answer the question from the title, at least for me: I am too lazy for ability towers. I am not playing active enough to use them. the tower needs to work without me being there for it
tonic? one of my favourite towers ever since i started 4 years ago god god its SO SO UNBELIEVABLE its as underrated as it is cheap upgrade route really good upgrade before hand and total transformation is amazing if you know what to do
5-2-0 isn't elite defender it's cripple moab the correct cross path as isab said is 0-2-5 also I think the reason they missed up is because they had a I think 4-2-0 on the field
The easiest explanation is that the dude was accidentally factoring in buying overclock (he said he tried overclock), which is $14580 and would explain a 15k difference.
I mean, sauda doesn't look like level 20 in the screenshot and by the fact that it's close to lv 18, it would cost about 7k per level (i think) and he'd have to buy 1 level before 20.
Honestly considered moving that tower up on the tierlist, but it seems too much like a crackhead endgame saver instead of a tower you actually want to use
I look forward to doing some crackhead strategies centering around Transforming Tonic in the future
It's definitely not something you buy and use much early on, definitely a tower that grows in value the later into a game you are specifically after round 80
Yeah it's not really a hardcarry midgame dps, and the support part comes from coc, so it ends up in a pretty weird place. Tbh it feels like a Tech Terror lol
Old Unstable Concoction used to be so damn good it was broken. If you're lacking raw damage it's great as a helper for the 90's. But yeah nothing you want to go out of your way to use anymore :(
@@jrodd13 coc is still great under the right circumstances, can do more work than shattering in some situations, tonic is what sucks
2:53 losing speedrun
2:54 bro really helped the Bloons win 💀
“Is friendly fire on?” ahh bird
Condor said "get rotated lmao"
Bro breathes 💀💀💀
@@weirdooftheyear yeah. me too man
@@weirdooftheyearbro is a human being 💀
half the people playing btd6 dont even know its existence 😭
as a btd6 player, i can indeed confirm that i have 0 clue what a "btd6" is supposed to be
As a btd6 player. I know what a btd6 is
As a total transformation alchemist I am aware he was talking about me
What's btd6???
As an unstable concoction, i can honestly say i had no idea there was more upgrades. Are there upgrades to other towers i don't know about? Like after triple dart monkey?
Oh and by the way, the reason that the money amounts haven't been the same most of the time was due to the fact that when regrows aren't fully popped, the layers you didn't reach on *every bloon* count as pops for cash
They removed this feature literally over a year ago. Previously popped layers no longer count for cash.
@@superbaas8822they did, but there's still a glitch
Like if you pop a regrow black, and then fully pop one of the pinks inside, when the other pink regrows, and you hit it with a 2-0-0 sniper, the game thinks that both pink layers are giving cash even though only one of them is
But if you just pop it one damage at a time, it loads the cash layers correctly
@@superbaas8822 But extra instances of layers you havent popped yet still do even to this day. Say you pop a rainbow with 1 damage into 2 zebras on r79. You let it regrow to 2 rainbows and then pop them again with 1 damage. All 4 zebras count for money, giving you 2 zebras worth of extra gold if you then one shot all 4 zebras, than you are suppossed to have. This works on all the bloon multiple children spawns on r80 or earlier, due to super ceramics on r81+ canceling the multi spawns that makes this work.
This is why you can afford to get Permabrew for the BEZ/Perma 2tc during round 93 on the current 44.1 patch when if you check the math and see what youre suppossed to earn, you shouldnt afford it till r95, and prior to the price buff you werent suppossed to be able to at all due to it suppossed to come up around 98 in which you'd have lost already on 95 due to the ddts killing you. Yet this combo was discovered *Months* ago for the first time, and yes it requires Permabrew's uptime on AMD for this to work.
The regrow farm works. As tracking/deciding which children are allowed to give cash and how many would clearly be complicated in a way that sounds most unsavory to Performance, let alone the programmers' headaches while fixing it, I can see why it has yet to be addressed despite being known and discussed off and on within the community for several months now. It's not Wide spread information, sure, it is arguably demonstratably niche, but it still ends up fascinating.
@@VoxelowoAlso a note to add is that it is not infinite. You can only claim the extra pink money once per Bloon. And there is a really cool video going in depth, and doing a run getting all the bonus money possible, I don't remember who uploaded it though.
Pretty sure that you can’t make an extra 15k with it and none of the towers that you can use for the strat (down draft and dots) were placed down. He also has an engi foam that removes regrow
Thank you ISAB for showing how hard the coc goes
I always use the 1-3-0 Alch in my CHIMPS runs, it usually ends with around 300k damage, very powerful upgrade.
I always hear about ceram rushes but I never hear about how to deal with them, my sum of knowledge is
1. buy the tower
2. it either kills your run or outpops your hero
@@emberembr2944@emberembr2944 yeah it's a very goofy tower, if you can deal with the cerams, it suddenly becomes muuuch better than shattering
@@emberembr2944 weird question but does spiked balls deal with the cerams?
EDIT: i'd expect it to be good cause it deals extra damage to them (and i think fortified too) and supercerams have most of their RBE in that layer
@@justenoughrandomness8989 it might do a little well until round 80, i think.
@@justenoughrandomness8989 i'd say yeah. On some maps, like Sunken Columns, i'd buy two spiked balls Spike Factories near the end of the track, they do a very good job.
I saw the cornfield run and my heart skipped 5 beats... I thought it was my run lol
"Sauda, still leaking a lot"
-Isab 2024
DAWG, CHILL YK WHAT HE MEANS
@@canadian5654 oh yes we do 😈
Thank you ISAB, for salvaging our runs with your unstable coc
"there is no more space" he says as he hovers over a spot where he can place something
Cookie monster the goat as as HBomb said
I saw you in the new brawl talk video
Its a bot bud@@DadFusis
@@Barneito_123no i am not
@@Barneito_123
The comment is far too relevant to thr video and specific to be a bot.
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Thank you ISAB for salvaging more runs today!
But the real question is can ISAB salvage my parents marriage?
I think you will have to wait for the supermonkey paragon until than it is unsalvagable
Why ask a question you already know the answer to?
Unironically I would pay for him to salvage my life
@@Muta123does the vengeful TSG count as a super monkey paragon?
@@juandavidgiraldo518 No it doesn't, NK said so. Also no Paragon so far locked the tier 5s from being used after upgrading like VTSG
This should be a mode in game, basically challenges but with towers placed already
From the bottom of my heart I hope you never stop making videos
recently black bordered spillway, x4x alc basically carried me through every hard gamemode (and apopalypse)
This man could salvage anything! Potentially I should submit my rapidly declining mental and physical health so he could salvage my life!
I remember doing a balance black border, I believe it was my 2nd one which was pretty epic. i think i used super brittle + spikes storm and sauda ofc
balance was my first and I did axis of mortars. it's what really got me into the game
Its not the transforming tonic itself as much as the unstable concoction. Did some testing with an alchemist and a sun avatar on round 98, once with the tonic ability and once without. The alchemist damage was 98k without and 96k with the ability (the ability stops it from throwing concoctions) The tier 3 also got equal damage, so it doesnt get any hidden buffs with the upgrade. Crosspath or the lack of one didnt change the damage. This makes unstable concoction by far the most cost efficient round 98 damage dealer, but the tier 4 ability doesnt seem worth it, even being self-sabotaging.
Concoction is one of those towers you forget even though you know it’s amazing
you know i feel like people just dont use the 0-4-0 alch just because it used to be just bad
i remember 050 alch used to have a bug with 050 dart where if you used both abilities at the same time it would do absurd damage, i even popped the sandbox test bloon using that method
@@TheDestroyer55e Quantum Entanglement Glitch?
@@ZephyramG nah this was way before that, like 2019
@@TheDestroyer55e OHH, Yeah I Remember That, Im Pretty Sure It Also Works With Absolute Zero Buff With Ice Monkey, Although I Could Be Wrong
@@ZephyramGwhile it does currently works with AZ, pretty sure the shinobi tactics and poplust synergies are far stronger. I believe druid of wrath attack speed stacks and grand saboteurs +1 Moab damage can be combined as well.
Always love seeing my one true love Unstable Concoction see some appreciation
Ahh what a perfect time for an upload.
...in my timezone
2:55 Condor wanted to say ISAB is bad at the game 😆
finally the best tower is shown and called out from hiding
I will say that Transforming Tonic is VERY solid for Round 95. It's how Flying Fortress with Churchill on Off The Coast is possible, in fact, as I streamed as much a few days before you uploaded this. That 20 second duration conveniently coincides with the spawn duration for Round 95's DDTs, by far the longest spawn duration of the DDT rounds on the regular CHIMPS runs. That said, however, it's not good against Ceramics, so it absolutely needs supports against them. It also has limited effectiveness against the BAD, shockingly worse than that of Spike Storm top crosspath in fact.
For the second run, idk how much it would have helped but you could have bought pin on the engineer, since that makes the foam slow down bloons.
That beast handler tower name tho. Damn, it’s incredibly sus!
20:24 ISAB TREEING
16:20
"asap as possible" ~ ISAB 2024
isab always so silly lol out loud
Same energy as "in my imo"
@@aname375sometimes he makes me smh my head
Everyone should use the Trans Tonic
😮
I wanna use the trans tonic
Unstable Coc goes hard
....
wait a minute....
0-5-2 alchemist has been my fave since launch its so fun
ISAB once said "The more cocs the better".
can the transforming tonic also salvage my crippling depression though?
depends, d'you wanna be even less stable?
Ah yes, excesive drinking of drugs is always helpful.
Transforming tonic would be a lot better if it wasn't locked behind a 3000 dollar tier 3 upgrade that does absolutely nothing until the final stretch of the game. The ability's actually pretty good on its own, but it's impractical to go for in most games because of unstable concoction's aforementioned uselessness in the midgame. You basically end up paying the same amount you would to get a summon phoenix... minus the global range and really strong tier 3 that comes before the ability. Bit of a shame. Wish they would rework middle path alch to make it a bit more useful throughout more of the game.
Tonic is still solid in mid-game, just not close to D breath solid. I think the real reason is that concoction needs stuff to pop to work, and the tower without the ability just isn't close to cutting it, so it can't be very integral damage in your defense without a lot of stalls. I think a good way to buff this tower would be to buff the cool down a lot but nerf the transformed tier 4.
SMFC is only slightly less expensive to be significantly weaker unless you mix in more Dart Monkeys, and Tonic at least pops Leads off the bat.
I would be for Tonic having its overall price decreased, though, but with Tonic's activation having a significantly longer cooldown so that it's still working better with a good role, but NOT capable of getting away with poor usage. Still, honestly, it's amazing that a lot of towers with moderate costs just aren't good against DDTs at all even when they're visible.
@@MasterKnightDH bro who the heck puts down an SMFC and doesn't add any more dart monkeys, send them to the insane asylum
16:26 Liked and subscribed.
these have quickly become my favourite content on your channel
I want isabs arcane spike
Tbh it is mostly the tonic doing the job, the upgrade is only good because there is no space for you to upgrade anything else
IMO alch is the best tower in the game. Pretty sure base alch is cheapest r28 lead popping, perishing pots is a 20 damage tier 2 upgrade (find anything close to that at tier 2), unstable concoction is also just absurd damage for the price, berserker brew/stronger stim are the best path of any tower in the game, lead to gold & rubber to gold are surprisingly good income, hell even BMA has, to my knowledge, the highest non-paragon dps out of any tower in the ultra late game besides P lord and maybe xxl trap.
You forgot about bomb which is way cheaper now
“ASAP as possible” homies really gotta stop with that 😂😂😂
ISAB, awesome content bro
My friends have been poking fun at me for at least a year because this is one of my favorite towers. LOOK WHO'S LAUGHING NOW.
when is all of btd 6 players ever in unison on anything
13:00 why does it say 2.037 million total damage? isn't it supposed to be about 2.042?
Middle path alch defortifies ceramics maybe it doesn't increase the pop count when doing so
@@nassimfortas3057 ohh yea maybe
Does anyone know how the second run lost a whole 15k
Thank you isab for again using unstable coc
This week's boss it pretty cool. You should do a video on ot
Thanks for uploading
to answer the question from the title, at least for me: I am too lazy for ability towers. I am not playing active enough to use them. the tower needs to work without me being there for it
0:01 video starts here
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thx bro i couldnt figure it out
Shut up
really? I thought it started at 07:19:23
Either bot or just a guy who wants likes on a commet
ISAB, nice video it was really good
2:53 Well I know what I'm doing in coop now
tonic? one of my favourite towers ever since i started 4 years ago god god its SO SO UNBELIEVABLE its as underrated as it is
cheap upgrade route really good upgrade before hand and total transformation is amazing if you know what to do
You can use the tier 5 Mer monkey bottom path with a tier 5 of middle path of the helicopter monkey and it is really good you should try it
Love the videos I been watching you since 2001
Hey ISAB do you realize that the 5-0-0 buccaneer monkey give’s it’s buff to mermonkeys too
"asap as possible" -isab 2024
i had no idea concoction is so good wtf
i had no idea concoction is so good wtf
@@AnyRadiance im fucking hoping you have a good day and am being kind because this a public comments section
Can someone explain to me where is there no 5-2-0?
5-2-0 isn't elite defender it's cripple moab the correct cross path as isab said is 0-2-5 also I think the reason they missed up is because they had a I think 4-2-0 on the field
I hope you know you some how are the most causal best player in the world cause shit dawg you can salvage some shit setups
For the first one, had he gone for super brittle he should've been fine, it's cracked now.
So where are you expecting to find another 20k, cause it's sure not in that run.
When will you do my run it is from Bloons for all
Banger 🔥🔥🔥
0-2-4 super monkey but isab chosen 2-0-4 6:36
You can see the plasma attacks in the pic they just wrote the Crosspath wrong
What do you mean "without a real damage tower" transforming tonic is a real damage tower
WE ARE SALVAGING MORE RUNS TODAY 🗣️🗣️🗣️‼️‼️‼️‼️
Please,, I’ve asked so many times now…. When will we kiss?? 😢😢😢
you will never be Sauda bro
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Bro's a boy kisser
Isabs heart only belongs to Sauda
The sauda run being 15k different, is probably cuz it was an older version of the game and upgrade prices being different is what I'd think
Nah, the dc price change isn't enough to say it's price changes
The easiest explanation is that the dude was accidentally factoring in buying overclock (he said he tried overclock), which is $14580 and would explain a 15k difference.
@@Fnordyy are you blind or sum? It literally shows a screenshot of the guys run, where he had 15k and NO oc
I mean, sauda doesn't look like level 20 in the screenshot and by the fact that it's close to lv 18, it would cost about 7k per level (i think) and he'd have to buy 1 level before 20.
I always thought transforming tonic was useless
Damn I remember in the very early patches Unstable Concoction was busted as shit ngl
I use middle path alch nearly all the time its so good and cheap
Why no level seven Brickell??
We love isab
Strat is buckshot
Any runs that are impossible pre-mermonkey but are absolute cake walks after?
In the first salvage,how tf did that guy beat round 95
These days for 98 i just go with mortar 0-2-4 dosnt cost much... Remove all the fortified... Burn everything...
isab why don’t you have any sponsors on you’re videos? Is it a principle thing?
0:36 have not played in a while, am i missing something when ISAB says there is no 5-2-0?
He says there is no 5-2-0 on the field
Tired and i thought he meant like it doesnt exist. Like as if top path sniper just disables middle path crosspath. Lmao
@@nerdsuper9693isnt there a 5-2-0 in the top of the map though? Above the ice monkey? Or is that a 4-2-0?
@@TheMikeTrumpet 5-2-0 has more leaves and is a lighter green
@@TheMikeTrumpetTier 5 is completely covered in leaves. There's should be no marking at the top of its head, along with having no goggles.
“ASAP as possible”
ISAB 2024
"as soon as possible as possible"
Unstable coc is a Huge and hard tower
how is it 98? I really don't think I could be stuck on that round even if I tried
Early comment, been watching for forever, still play the game cause of you, Thank you, I love your Vids❤❤🎉❤❤
Nice
Hai isab and everyone!!
i love you isab
21:30 video ends here
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dunno why but btd 6 players have a fixed mindset and never try new stuff
Why wasnt he using Brickell's other ability?
Isab woke up and picked concoction.
wouldn’t 1-4-0 alch be better against 98
Middle path alchemist is underrated
Can someone tell me why he didnt use the mines ability at all
ISAB has been asking this since 2019 😭
People love the tower but not the non support path
Night 46 of watching isab every night before bed
Hot take: Alchemist is a balanced tower