【table tennis】FangBo‘s teaching is too professional，does anyone can understand it？？
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- Опубліковано 27 лис 2024
- This video takes me near 3hours，I just translate it some of the words literally，here’s my view，if the we face strong top spin，we can impact more，but I don‘t know what’s the difference between diagonal shot and straight shot.
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Here are the general points. Translation is surprisingly good.
If the ball is high, counterloop with an open face, do not try to thin loop it. Open your racket, and go right into the ball because if you try to THINLY loop a very spinny topspin ball, it will slip. Your topspin and your opponent's topspin are going in opposite directions. This leads to too much friction and the ball will slip off your paddle.
The solution is to open your racket and loop forwards with a heavy impact so the spinny ball goes into your sponge/paddle. This lowers the amount of topspin we can send back, but guarantees the ball will not slip off.
However, you can only do this on high balls. If the ball is lower than the net, you close the racket slightly and loop it a bit thinner to give it an arc to get over the net. You have no choice. Hitting it with an open face will not generate the arc necessary to get it over the net with a very low ball.
Scenarios:
1. Counterloop diagonally against topspin. Slap slightly more with the wrist and employ a full body motion when diagonal. Why? Because there is more table=more ground to cover and more margin for error. We must hit harder.
2. Counterloop down the line against topspin. Shorten the stroke, using mainly body instead of arm. Avoid wrist. Why? Because there is less table and margin for error. If we slap hard like before the ball will go out. It's too inconsistent.
3. Counterloop against sidespin. Hook your wrist to hit the side of the ball opposite your opponent (Mirror their shot.) Why? (Not explained in video but I will summarize.) If you go against the sidespin, it will be like the topspin scenario explained above. Your sidespins will meet and oppose, generating high friction and likely slipping. By hooking and going WITH your opponent's sidespin as opposed to against it, the spins will travel in the same direction, lowering the friction experienced by your rubber and the ball. This gives you a better chance of not slipping.
He is basically saying that you don't need to do a full stroke like you usually do when someone is blocking your forehand topspin. The motion and the angle of the blade has to be the same ( you don't need to close the angle for that heavy loop). However, just barely extend the forehand and at the time you hit the ball focus more on hitting the ball forward and the most important thing is to use your hip( with a forward motion) at the time of impacting the ball. It's the same concept for the shot at the beginning of the video but you need to focus more on the fade shot but the timing of your stroke needs to be at net height or higher.
You talk about hitting straight form the pivoting point of Fanbo right? That is where he said shorten the stroke
@@zizo015 They do both shots from the pivoting point or backhand corner. Both shots use the same technique. In one you do the fade and the other one is the the straight shot which is indeed the first one I explained.
What he's taking about is use the wrist to position the racket to enable spin evasion. A top spin ball is only top spin on one axis of rotation. If you avoid that axis of rotation by hitting the side of the ball you can avoid the kicking effect of the spin and hit the ball as you wish. For righties, to avoid the spin you can either turn your wrist inward like a hook and hit the right side / outside of the ball or you can hit the inside of the spinning ball by doing a fade. Hitting the ouside of the ball at around 3'oclock is quite a reliable way to hit this sort of shot onto the table and with power. If you do this you will realise that this loopy balls are actually fairly slow and fairly predictable so you can actually consistently counter them as the Chinese professionals do.
Excellent, I am training to be a coach and improve my own game. I find that Fang Bo’ s explanations are well thought out. As an an English speaker I really appreciate the translations.
In practical terms I think these are probably the best UA-cam TT tutorials for content and attention to detail. Just a thought and comment to all those people who comment about translations and difficulty,-the language of Table Tennis is mentally controlled physical movement, quicker and adaptable than words-this language crosses cultures and people worldwide and the reason why it is loved and enjoyed. The essence of Fang Bo’s Coaching is physically showing this language in action , the words and explanations are concise and present an image which is often followed by physical demo for the viewer to better understand. Great Channel!
you need to be Fang Bo to understand Fang Bo.
Very profressional , not amature level. Thank you for translation.
it is facinating how they project on their background the ball travel and speed ... nice tecnhology
shortest explanation : when hit down the line hit harder and shorter and with least slide (wrist inward). when hit corner (diagonal) use wrist outward and hit with as much slide possible to generate more spin and turn.
Retracted wrist - Hold your right hand out with palm facing down. From the wrist lift your fingers, the wrist will bend up.
Outward wrist - Hold your right hand out with your thumb in the air and your palm facing left. Bend the wrist down like your chopping something. This one is for putting curve on the ball hitting it from the side.
If I am wrong please advise.
The other way around I think?
@@_.Madness._ Fair enough. At least I got te motions right. I'll watch the video again to get some context.
This is ultra high-level wizardry. The key is to be fully relaxed and hit the ball with the hyp/waste rotation without wrist flick
0:36 "I really don't know if everyone can understand". No shit, Sherlock.
is there an original clip out there
Почему камеру не поставили дальше. Техника топспина слева вообще не видна.
whats the rubber brand and model that Fang Bo 's like it?
Super XuanWu
What rubber is he complimenting? I'm curious what can impress a CNT so much :)
Probably some sponge variation of H3 😅
no one moves with as much ease as Bo
>too professional - yes, sometimes. For example, what is 'shortening' he is talking about?
maybe not full motion
In straight ball (parallel) distance between The hit point( racket hit the ball) and The falling point (ball hit the table) is shortening than cross ball.
You need to control the ball (maybe spin or arc) move up and move down shortening than cross ball.
@@clesspicktan I hope I undersnand it at this level, but what I can't understand - how to shorten ball really. Less friction was mentioned, for example, and flat hir? This should mean less curve, isn't it?
@@serge.shikov I think the flat hit is the diagonal one, this one you play less flat over the ball, rather more open racket and the motion of your arm is a little longer.
The parallel shot, down the line, from pivot forhand to backhand has a shorter stroke, but also a thinner contact. You play more over the ball and this gives more curve. If you played this straight shot and the ball is around net height then the control is very hard with a thick contact, a thin brush is easier.
But with a longer motion/contact for the diagonal shot the opposite is true, if the ball is high enough. If it is below net height and you want to play diagonal, you have to adjust, maybe play a bit thinner or change something else, this depends on the ball.
In Chinese it's pretty clear. He meant flex the forearm at the elbow. The cross table shot has the arm relatively straight throughout the stroke, with the body rotation providing most of the force. Going down the line you need to flex your elbow.
Nice
Yes I understood it
What does he mean with "retracting" and having the "outward" wrist in this instance?
Retracting is mean .... i dont know how to describe i call "hook serve grip "
Retract grip like this = hook grip
- flex wrist when top spin
By the way "outward " is name of griping type.
I call lolipop grip (alexis serve)
Or extended wrist when topspin
awesome
I think the guy playing with left hand said the opposite what Bo said before and after. It is a bit true for him where he stood when he said but he confused us.
Exactly. For him hitting from just forehand it would be the opposite from what applies to Fanbo hitting a pivot.. Right?
i appreciate the efford you took for the video but i dont understand anything. Either the translation is bad or FangBo is a bad teacher :D
you can try other episode,this one is hard even for native speaker,about hand feeling stuffs, they are hard to express
Where can I find his course?
you mean in Chinese ?
Quanshibao
Bring on chop topspin
i don't understand, really, because i'm not professional player. can you explain with human language?
Master, please give me SUBTITLE INDONESIA 🙏
Background sounds disturbance
The translation is throwing things off.
Bro i can u derstand cuz I understand Chinese but subtitles kinda hard 😅
could you give me some advice about where should be better translation？Cause，I think sometimes it's hard for native speaker😁
撇？揉？收？短？
The video is one of the best; I really like it. However I don't think you need to translate every word and every line of the dialogue. It would only make the overall explanation worse. Instead you can translate only the relevant parts
could you give me some advice about where should be better translation？it confuses me some places
Can somebody translate this video into English please?
Very very doubt😂
My English is bad, who can explain what he mean
as i got it. when you counterloop, you need to hit the ball withot triying to spin it, just with the right angle and tight and fast contact, pushing the ball forward, unless the ball is too low. also when you play diagonal, your wrist should be open, and closed, when you play a straight ball. and when you play straight, you need to stop your hand early, so shorten the motion, otherwise the ball goes up and over the table.
@@ubetsatnx ... now I understand too
@@ubetsawhat means wrist open or closed
What the fuck is outward wrist? Retracted wrist?
Retracted wrist = hook serve-like grip
Outward wrist = lolipop serve like grip
Thank you!
@clesspicktan Sorry. Just rewatch and I noticed more things that I ignored because I didn’t understand anything he says. What does “push” and “pull” means?
“For driving straight, push. For diagonal shot, pull”
Also, driving straight == down the line?
@@clesspicktanthank you very helpfull!
@@kenji2787 Driving straight was down the line, or just any shot that isn't played wide to the diagonal.
The push and pull I'm less sure, but I think this is at your wrist and at your shoulder, at least that's where you feel it. Of course your legs and body move a bit differently too.
To play the "straight shot" (which goes from RH backhand side to LH forhand side here) you start with your hand closer to the body and you push it a bit after the ball as you swing, using your legs then body(to me you can feel your chest here) then shoulder then wrist.
For the other shot, played here RH backhand side to LH backhand side, you start a little out from the body, but try to use spin to brush/wrap over the ball, so here you pull more using your waist then shoulder then wrist (Legs accelerate at the start but don't pull).