"Seeing yourself with a pump is like seeing the future. But once you get that big, your pump will get even bigger. You will never be as big as your pump" - Dom Mazzetti
It’s ok. I’d rather live here than the US I think. I’m pretty well off so I know I’m luckier than most, but I would hate to be living in poverty in this country. Being poor in the UK is worse than any other country. There is a massive class divide here, life seems a lot more shitty for poorer people here than other countries.
@@constracted7331 Nah, it is close to the tipping point I guess but he doesn't look immobile, if dudes don't fit through doors that's too much. but because he's so close to the tipping point I think it's the perfect amount
What I find so amazing about this disorder is that the first guy was able to articulate perfectly how it was making his life hard, but still could not stop.
@@j0nnyism same way that telling an anorexic to just eat won’t help them. At the very least he’s very self aware and understands what the issues he faces are.
@@JayMoney-hd1jl Is that from "Lone survivor" lol. it's a good movie. This quote comes from the military mindset. This quote specifically comes from The UDT Navy Seal Diver ethos (The Frogmen). The whole" keep going until you die" is nothing more than military mindset propaganda to keep soldiers from quitting the fight. It is short sighted and only serves one purpose. Outside of that reason for which it was created, it is useless and dangerous and as such should be forgotten; or at least evolved to fit a different use. What it has in absolutely motivating testosterone FUCK YEAH MURICA, " lets kick some ass!" it lacks in real world wisdom for anyone else. It is a wonderful mindset to have to keep you alive in the worst of times, but it fails when there is no war to fight. What happens when you have no motivation or reason to "push forward and fight"? What happens when the worst you have to do is get a 9-5 job and just make enough money to feed the kids? What happens when survival is no longer an immediate day-to-day worry? i'll let you figure that out. I agree with the idea that in order to become the best at something you need to be obsessed with it. "time is god's currency"- Me For instance, Marco Pierre White (FYI, The famous chef that was the youngest ever to win a michelin star and was mentor of Gordon Ramsay) said he worked 16 hours a day, 6 days a week in the kitchen to perfect his passion. But he ,after winning the michelin stars and becoming the best known chef in the world, said he was still not satisfied and even quit professionally cooking for a while because it had become boring to him. long story short, you can never be satisfied with acquiring things and emotions. the only time the race is exciting is when the race is still happening. When you hit the finish line, then what? You're not done with life, you didn't die. what next then? Stop looking for finish lines and enjoy the race. For there are no finish lines in life except for the ones we humans have made. For every mountain, there is a valley. Just enjoy the moment and try to learn to enjoy the race.
+OfficialMaxc that guy is everywhere lol. Alphadestiny's Channel, espoused tv, shadow man is mostly were ull see him though. I've seen him on non fitness channels too though
+Plum The guy in the red vest with glasses is big but certainly not massive, especially when you compare him to the guy in the background at 10:45 who has that 'thick' look...
The guy featured throughout the video, right? If yes, OMG, I agree 300%. He looks like perfection, and I still feel like that word doesn't do his appearance justice. I can't believe he feels like he hasn't surpassed his goals...
that's pretty much like all bodybuilders think, it's not that you don't like your body, but the work is never done, there is always room for improvement.
I know how real this state of mind is. I was in the army and got posted overseas for 12 months, with nothing to do in my spare time but go to the gym. The whole time I was doing it, I’d look in the mirror and couldn’t see any gains. I stopped lifting once I got home. At the end of those 12 months I had a picture taken of my physique, I look back at that photo now and realise how good my body looked at the time, seems crazy that I couldn’t see it back then.
Half of the problem is the secretive side of body building. Top level bodybuilders will claim they don't use steroids/growth hormones/ diuretics/insulin until they're blue in the face, this leads teenagers to believe all this is achievable by just drinking protein shakes and working out. Once they really become involved in the lifestyle and discover the truth a few tablets or a few needles a week doesn't seem that much more of a sacrifice. Next minute they are pumped full of hormones and eating 7 meals a day.
Yep. Totally agree. But if they did the right thing and admitted it, they lose their Celltech sponsorship, which in all reality is paying for their test and GH.
Robert H You know absolutely nothing and your comment shows it. Type in your UA-cam search bar 'Dennis Wolf Talks Steroids and Bodybuilding'. I can find plenty more proof to back up myself, I'd like to see you back up your comment now. Show me one person who competed at the Olympia admitting use. I've done my research, now it's your turn.
+Andrew Payne I hope this is just a really poor attempt at a troll from Robert... Rich Piana is probably the only guy I have seen go on record talking sense about AAS use. The rest will never come clean until maybe long after they retire. Watching them all deny it does make me laugh however.
+Andrew Payne The reddit r/bodybuilding id laughing at this video bc they are the guys you people think have bigorexia. Im sure there are body builders who claim to be natty, but the most popular ones like sadik, big ramy, etc are sponsored by companies that promote steroids and anyone who follows a bodybuilder should know that they use steroids. Also, no disrespect to them, because its not automatic muscle when you take steroids. Thank you, dont mean to kill the mood, but just an opinion from a teen who actually follows bodybuilders.
Anthony Efx unless he just stays in shape? Jeff cavalier and most athletes and x athletes just keep training infact it’s why I started training, I want to give my future children a positive role model
Thats actually tlvery true. Once people say you look big and good you start to feel alot better, but it has to come from lifters or from people who you know for a fact theydont just mess with you.. It all comes down to insecurity of being small and never good enough.
He said “ how can anyone enjoy what is here, is I MYSELF dont like like what im seeing”....This statement alone proves to me the existence of this mental state someone can be caught up in. It must be a struggle to live like that smh.
"the day you start lifting is the day you became forever small" Nah, it's all in their head. After 8 weeks, there would be a noticeable difference in muscle growth & how the body looks.
This is really sad. the guy probably has a solid meal prep, a strength program that works for him, and access to the equipment he needs, he just has the mental outlook that's always regressive. I hope he finds the mental strength to be able to look where he has been along with where he's going.
Interesting watch- especially the point on men not being as used to the media portraying how their image should be as women. I hope Bigorexia gets more attention.
The issue is - For a woman to look good - Just dont eat like a hippo and maybe take a walk once in a while. For a guy to look up to a good girls standards, A LOT of exercise and thought into what you are eating has to be done, if you dont have monster genes. A woman/girls body is often a lot more naturally beatiful than a guys, and the standard "muscle" wise is a lot higher for the men.
It is changing more and more every day for girls as well with the whole instagram fitness movement. But for a girl it is basically, be kinda cute and dont be fat. For a guy, be 190cm tall and ripped or else ur fucked.
+Martin Madsen That's not really what we're talking about. We're not talking about personality in terms of attractiveness, we're talking physically. We're talking about how much effort it takes a male vs. female to appear physically attractive. Did you not read anything Doggepp even said?
Very interesting, especially what was said about women adjusting to the pressure. I think women have so much support available to them because people are aware of the body image pressures they face. The same needs to be done for guys!
This video is 7 years old and things still really haven't changed. I got into fitness a few years ago and enjoyed seeing the transformation process over time, but I don't believe it contributed all that much to my happiness. After two years of fully committing to a lifestyle of fitness and muscle gain, I suddenly got bored and worked out less and less frequently, becoming more loose with my diet. These days, I've never managed to regain that same kind of commitment I initially had, but I've learned to make peace with it. If nothing else, it's given me tools to manage my daily fitness and health to a moderate degree, but I think I'm much happier not feeling the need to constantly compare myself to how I looked yesterday, entering a constant cycle of pushing myself further and harder than is necessary. Some people I know are still on it, and though they look great, I can't say that we've stayed close since - maybe because their obsession with their physique is taking so much time away from their social lives. I believe everyone has a right to pursue whatever passions in life they desire, but my only condition would be that it's something that provides real meaning and joy for them, rather than something they think they need to aspire to.
fuuuuk… men trying to be big strong men shaving hairs like a woman.... then they eat more than they need and spend hours in the gym what a life sucking lifestyle... just eat healthy, work hard and get knowledge if you want to be a real man... these "big men" are women living in their head fussing over every single muscle smh what a mental illness
Wow! A handsome, articulate, educated, and physically fit man feels unlovable because he can't love himself. Shocking. Sad. Unforgettable. I hope an update is done on him and he gets help.
Matt Konny when you put any foreign substance in your body there is a risk your unique body can't handle it. While rich certainly does push the limit, he is educated on the subject, and understands the risk associated with each cycle. this kid probably hopped on a crazy cycle with no experience
Jattmosh Sports well yeah without a doubt his habit is gonna kill him one day. he will probably have a massive heart attack within the next 10 years if he continues at this pace. however you must respect the fact that he has been living that lifestyle successfully for longer than most can at that level.
Matt Konny Rich also uses large amounts of synthol which I believe is just oil which gives a bigger appearance, not sure how often you have to inject it or if it already stays in the body.
For me, I was small when I was younger, inoffensive and easy to push around. Getting big was a massive realtiation for me and it was very easy for me to get carried away with my image. I've learned to keep ontop of those feelings and know that working out is a small part of my whole life. Its more a hobby of mine rather than a MAIN thing I do now and I enjoy it for that.
You can't master your mind unless you come to terms with your limitations. Don't drag a man down instead why not support & acknowledge acceptance of ones flaws is a step closer to mastery of ones mind.
6:58 Yeah, expect the standards for women are MUCH lower, and most male physiques displayed in the media are actually unachievable naturally. First, the standard for women is just to have low body fat with no real muscle development, which is literally the starting point for a guy, at this stage he is just a skinny whimp. After that he needs at least a few years of bulking and cutting, with consistent training and good diet to put on a decent amount of muscle mass. The standard for men is low body fat combined with high muscle mass, which is the hardest combination to achieve. Second, the vast majority of physiques is media are enhanced, from men using all sorts of performance enhancing drugs. Steroids are incredibly common, and not just among competitive bodybuilders, most male models of social media who keep growing big and staying shredded are on some sort of drug. So men are bombarded with standards that are actually unachievable.
To be completey fair for our ladies here, they do have some "standards" (though in reality no one truly gives a shit, but neither do people for men, it's as we all know "merely" the media standard that we all think we need to achieve) that they can't even achieve without surgery. I mean, the same is sort of true with men, with having this "amazing" jawline and whatnot. But having huge boobs and a big ass isn't necessarily things a skinny chick can achieve either by just working out, so that's kinda a genetic thing (or surgery) as well. Granted the "models" we see don't have those, they are just sort of shredded and that's it, but then again so are the male models, don't confuse models with fitness models. Most models or actors (in movies) aren't actually that big. There's this movie with Ryan Gossling in a scene with a chick saying he looks photoshopped, when he barely hits 10% bodyfat with a little bit of muscle mass. I mean I don't disagree on there being some sort of push that implies men should look like the Rock or Arnold, incredibly tall and massive looking whilst shredded, but there's also the push that says you can be a skinny/summer beach motherfucker and still hit it. The only thing that comes in the way of that is the saying of men having to be "strong and muscular" (which is more of a mindset than a set picture in our heads) - The entire topic is so illusive, there's all kinds of standards and you can't meet them all. I think there are only a few "actual/real" standards my dude, shit like be "x" tall and be slim/athletic looking, but not actually too big, those are standards that actual chicks will throw at you, not just some weird socia media thing you might never actually encounter if you don't give a shit.
I highly disagree with You as a woman. Women's ideal body type is not just being thin, that's outdated and uneducated point of view. First of all it's not easy to loose weight for everyone. People who have type 2 diabetes in families, in general have worse glucose metabolism and higher storage of fat, so they need to exercise more than healthy population. Often obese people have mutations in receptors of neurons (brain cells) that control appetite, so for them control of appetite is much harder than for normal person, e.g. MC4R mutations. 2. women are expected these days to have very thin waist (sign of low % fat percentage) and large breasts and butts (high fat), which is not achievable without surgery for many body types or clothes that modify body shape. Just look at any female character drawn and you will see very fast how unreal the body types are. Women are expected to have perfect skin, not everyone has genes for that, there are chronic hormone issues that only affect female part of population, e.g. PCOS and people who have that illness have chronic acne and will never have clear skin even with heavy painful treatments like laser therapies or retinoids. Also pressure for women to become muscular also increases in our times and pretty sure that this form of body dysmorphia is present in women as well. Women are expected to have long hair with high volume, not everyone has hair that has high thickness or hair growth to sustain long hair. A lot of women spend shit ton of money on hair extensions or wigs just to have ideal hair. My body dysmorphia has worsened when I started training and now I can carry on until point of injury and even further just to prevent missing out a training or otherwise I will develop fear of loosing muscle and getting fatter. 4. Let's remember that women had to deal with pressure to look well for centuries (evidence of make up usage by women reaches as far back as ancient Egypt) unlike men for whom this type of issue is recent. More women have died due to anorexia and bulimia than men due to muscle dysmorphia. 6. dieting and keeping weight in check also involves training for many years, fasting/cutting periods, lots of hard work, just the same amount as growing muscle 5. women are still in certain countries forbidden to go school, drive or vote, cannot own land etc. Lastly, I am not saying this to be disrespectful to male suffers of muscular dysmorphia, but by saying women have it easier or lower standards of ideal body type, this is absolute bullshit!
@@Aratrok1 Big butts are achievable by working out. Those butts are even better than the 'fat distribution-mostly-around-ass- butts' breasts of course are mainly genetics, but personally I like all well shaped ones that are just not too big. And then there are also a lot of guys who get completely turned on by Z cup breasts.
Agata Czap no what you typed is complete bullshit. Staying lean is much easier than staying leaning and building muscle mass, you got that wrong and the rest of your rambles are ridiculous sorry
@@HeyhitmeBAM You are being ridiculous. All of that is based from my experience as female and that of other women, from biology at university level and from societal pressures women face. Also women aren't required just to stay lean! And being lean also means certain level of muscle mass that must be sustained anyway. Obviously, this comment slot is filled with narrow-minded, ignorant men who never gave a fuck to consider perspective of the other gender. And yes women these days are expected to lift to get nice butt and nice breasts. Just check easily instagram posts, perfect example!
"They" don't want you to get big, "they" don't want you to be happy ... another one ... "they" don't want you to be successful in reaching you goals. So what are we going to do? We're going to get bigger and stronger, we're going to be happy and we're going to achieve ALL our goals! Major key!
I’ve suffered with this condition for 13 years and I cover up all year round, lost relationships, family unit all because of the gym, my identity got built around training and I’m trying to break free of it but it seems near to impossible
Ah man hope you can gwt through it YOU CAN DO IT. if you allways live your life allways thinking about the end result you may not neccecsrly enjoy the thing your working so hard to achieve as there is no end goal (e.g not using a bike to keep it new but it eventually susts away). Enjoy the moment and be proud of yourself!
@@thegeekaboveall2711 I’ve got therapy for it and I’m pushing to get out of it, I’ve covered myself up for so long that I try and hide in the summer but I don’t want it to affect taking my son places so I just bare the weather regardless of how hot or close to exhaustion I get
Same here mate. The worst part for me is seeing muscle turning to fat. It’s incredibly hard. I need my muscles to be hard. Softness feels like fat. My girlfriend says I look great but I think she’s just being kind. If I don’t work out I get seriously depressed. I know I go too far but I need it
actionfan1000 Long hair is considered a very masculine triat; native Americans, Nordic people's, most Asian peoples. Short hair started as a symbol of vanity and wealth as only the wealthy could afford regular haircuts.
I disagree. For men, many people believe the physical standard of beauty is a muscular physique, and the average woman will rate 80% of men as being below average attractiveness. For women, many people just believe a slim build is attractive. Becoming a woman with a ‘good body’ is far easier than becoming a man with a ‘good body’. Take it from someone who’s been trying and failing for several years.
the therapist absolving women and their standards of their part in male body concerns is troubling. what this says is, in our culture, women are seen as being able to do no wrong. the inherent sexism to this way of thinking is lost on these fools.
@@sonaliano this is the truth of how men's future is doomed in the world due to sexuality and also women. it actually makes sense for that poor manlet to die from steroids and maybe that is a better outcome than living with bad health simply to try to ever get a girlfriend. however, women desire a certain top echelon of men, and this can be called a "ghost" because this is pure consciousness but it has real world reasons and effects. it is simply how evolution works, there was no point for the documentary to interview this psychiatric charlatans or clueless women. however, i find their exclusion important since it offers a direct look into the ignorance of hypocrisy.
It is a very interesting topic and I think it is very hard for someone who does not suffer with the condition to fully comprehend the thought process behind the men with 'bigorexia'.I suffered for several years with this condition from a teenager until my mid 20's. It led me down quite a dark path where I effectively lived only for bodybuilding. I started to enter bodybuilding competitions as a way to give some sort of meaning to what I was doing on a day to day basis( ie eating 7x meals, training up to 3 times a day,taking performance enhancing substances).I ended up missing out on so many opportunities and pushing so many people away due to the obsession with improving my body. I felt compelled every day to do anything and everything in my power to attempt to improve my physique. It was bordering on insane, yet I couldn't see it. I lost jobs, friends, relationships, money and caused family rifts just so I could pursue this pointless endeavour. As I look back now it all seems crazy to me and I feel thankful I got through it and have some normality in my life now. I use the gym a few times a week and don't particularly worry about how I look,just try to enjoy being fit and healthy. I still have many friends ego suffer from the condition yet for the most part people don't see it as a problem, they just treat it as if it's normality.I really hope this documentary helps to shed some light on the matter and that the general public begin to get an idea of how much damage can be caused to people's lives because of this.
+Luke Macheta Great comment. You offer a real understanding (by living through it) and insight into how devastating Muscle Dysmorphia is. Congratulations on your recovery.
Shock I take 2 to 2.5 hours for lifting, cardio is separate. No gym partner, no slacking, no phone time, just a lot of work. Some of us just have longer workouts.
It's possible he's natty, would have to see his physique as a child and teen to know for sure. Depends on his genetics and how many years of serious training.
Yeah I was like this in my teens and 20s . I started lifting seriously when I was 13 ……wasted all my time in the gym , miss family parties, denied going out with friends, I had no life eat every 4 hours , I stopped when I was 27 so 12 years . I’m 31 now I just do burpees and take walks ( I never want to do this again). I’m much happier now
Very insightful. The way I see it, being buff is a reflection of health, vitality and purposefulness. It should be part of an overall ("holistic") approach to being a confident and well balanced man. But I guess lots of guys go into muscle building without any of these thoughts in mind and the just focus on the muscles. I'd love if gym owners would fill their gyms with self-development pamphlets, DVDs and so forth to encourage guys to take this kind of holistic approach to fitness and life generally.
+aMensView Well spoken. People get into the lifestyle, but forget that it's actually just that - life - yours. Not just hypertrophy. But everything gets affected. Your muscles are attached to your body. Your mind. Your personality. Your reputation, and how people perceive you. The decisions you make surrounding that endeavor of attaining a physique will affect you much, much more than just filling out a sleeve. Too bad you can't teach this to people. You have to experience it first hand.
When I joined the gym I was skinny, then I started packing on weight and muscle went up a t shirt size then looked skinny in that t shirt ,so I bought a string vest looked ok then summer came I went on a cut and then looked shredded , welcome to the world of gym never happy with your physique allways chasing perfection but damn I do love it 😍 🔥🔥🔥💪🏼💪🏼💪🏼
I really don't know how to take this. Maybe its my age but I have a 'look' I am aiming for, training hard and still trying to get there despite some injuries along the way. I would never in a million years take short cuts, or do I want to look like someone who is about to compete. Is it media pressure? Or are people just looking more excuses to blame outside sources for their lack of own willpower?
jigglybean Usually a combination of media pressure, social pressure and family influence. Body dismorphic disorders are often brought about by people (particularly parents) complimenting thier kids on mostly - thier body. You hear how good it is to be "big and strong" or "nice and thin", as why they (parents) are proud of you, it becomes "normal" to equate self worth with looks.
Aka a job to put food on the table. But in this case body building looking “perfect” is there job. They must have some sort of mindset that their BDD and self criticism allowed them to reach that level so they are dependent on their psychological distress
Indian guy talks facts and is straight to the point. He understand the point of what the person is asking about the question instead of just answering the question. I dont think he has body dysmorphia to the point of being able to "be able to claim handicap checks". His parents were probably too Asian on him.
12:05 I think that is a great mentality this man has. Sure it's an issue when it gets in the way of other priorities in life, but when you have the dream to have an amazing body, never being satisfied is what will drive you to be the best you can be.
@@VOTVRe How does becoming bigger equate to being better? Aesthetically he is already at the point where he can reap all the benefits so it is just wasted time at this point unless he plans to compete.
Indian dudes physique is on-point, I agree with previous poster who said hes a perfectionist. The huge roided out LOOK really isnt aesthetically appealing imo.
Master dude you saw that he eats multiple meals a day n all the shit that maximizes muscle gain that physique is easily accomplished if you throw in some good genes and a handful of years of hard consistent work.
@@ian281 I know you don't know what you're talking about when you throw in some garbage ass bro science that has been debunked a million times like, "maximizing muscle grow with multiple meals" bullshit. LMAO, go watch IFBB Pro Greg Doucette and learn a thing or two about fitness.
This is so real. When I used to body build, I always thought I looked tiny, regardless of how many people in my life constantly told me how jacked I was. It’s just when you look at yourself in the mirror, you’re not seeing yourself objectively. You can’t really tell how big you are, because you are you and you don’t have a past version of yourself to contrast.
Chaitanya Reddy I'm 37 I have over 20 years in the gym and I'm a personal trainer. Not that any of that is necessary to see this guy is on the gear. If he is NOT on the gear then he has the best genetics on the planet and needs to get on the gear and he'll be in the Olympia. His shoulders are big and full and dry and striated because that is where a lot of the male androgen receptors are located so they're the first to blow up, along with the traps. The rest of his body is smaller (relatively speaking) probably because he doesn't know what he's doing, if he did, he'd bring them up. If you don't think this guy is sticking needles in his arse then I don't know what to say. Apologies for the length of this response.
I hate how they try to brand wanting to better yourself as an illness. Its accepted when people take it to the max in their careers. But when it comes to personal goals and reaching personal maxes, people cant seem to grasp or understand it
As a guy that takes the gym seriously i can relate in many ways to these guys. I feel bad for the darker guy with glasses he looks great but i get his struggle because anyone that takes it seriously its almost never enough. In my case one day im happy and the next im like well i look ok. Bigorexia is real
Word. He has ocd,a self centred narcissistic disorder and probably has problems relating to people,looks down on them.he has a great physique but a horrible voice really pissed me off.anyway i hope hes conquered his issues and is happier now
I train not for myself, but for those who I can protect by being the best possible version of me I can possibly be.. By focusing on myself, I am better able to help others
I'll bet that muscle dysmorphia (did I spell it right?) is basically an extreme manifestation of the male ego, and it is probably a phenomenon of very recent times. Popular culture and the entertainment industry are quite likely major factors, as well. If you have a friend or loved one who has this condition, compliment him on his physique as often as you can, and if you hear him say something derogatory about his body, respond with "you're bein' too hard on yourself. You're an absolute muscle stud ! Who TOLD you that nonsense about your arms/shoulders/pecs/calves(or whatever) not being big enough?! They're just jealous!"
“When you get bigger, someone else gets smaller” - Dom Mazzetti
, 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣That's amazing
That’s why you do blood works before a steroid cycle my friend lol he stupid
@@Who-cu9eu you grammar is sucks
I like how this is the second broscience quote I see in this comment section
Holy fk! Mind blowing
"The day you started lifting is the day you became forever small, because you will never be as big as you wanna be." - Dom Mazzetti
"Seeing yourself with a pump is like seeing the future. But once you get that big, your pump will get even bigger. You will never be as big as your pump" - Dom Mazzetti
I fukin knew that Dom mazzeti fans gonna be here
The legend speeks
im lifting bc i want to get smaller
@@alexpalacios4502 and you is gay for that .
Tbh the UK just seems depressing af
Everywhere outside London is
London is the worst.
It’s ok. I’d rather live here than the US I think. I’m pretty well off so I know I’m luckier than most, but I would hate to be living in poverty in this country. Being poor in the UK is worse than any other country. There is a massive class divide here, life seems a lot more shitty for poorer people here than other countries.
lmao dude
Mac-8888 Mac bet u live in liverpool
Indian dude honestly has the perfect amount of muscle
That’s not perfect. It’s too much.
@@constracted7331 Nah, it is close to the tipping point I guess but he doesn't look immobile, if dudes don't fit through doors that's too much. but because he's so close to the tipping point I think it's the perfect amount
@@constracted7331 You're an idiot if you think that's too much. If anything, that's not enough. He'd look perfect with 15-20 lbs more muscle.
Hamza Khaliq 🤯 it’s almost like different people have different opinions 🤯
@@account4345 Well his opinion is stupid.
What I find so amazing about this disorder is that the first guy was able to articulate perfectly how it was making his life hard, but still could not stop.
Yea knowing you have dismorphia doesn’t help stopping it.
@@j0nnyism same way that telling an anorexic to just eat won’t help them. At the very least he’s very self aware and understands what the issues he faces are.
He’s a very well spoken man. I hope he gets through his issues
@@adhiraj4988 i hope he doesn't resort to steroids to get though it. It will only make his problem worse. Way worse.
@@Pedro_Le_Chef you think that's a natural body? Lmao
"My tricep is too small and is not in proportion with the size of my shoulder"
*Continues doing front shoulder raises*
Lmao
Oh man! This killed me!
My thoughts exactly! xD
Well you can’t *not* do shoulders , otherwise they’ll be too small as well. Need them bigger just more proportional!
you realize he could have been doing shoulder day? ignorant comment
“He who is not contented with what he has, would not be contented with what he would like to have.” - Socrates
@@JayMoney-hd1jl Is that from "Lone survivor" lol. it's a good movie.
This quote comes from the military mindset. This quote specifically comes from The UDT Navy Seal Diver ethos (The Frogmen). The whole" keep going until you die" is nothing more than military mindset propaganda to keep soldiers from quitting the fight. It is short sighted and only serves one purpose. Outside of that reason for which it was created, it is useless and dangerous and as such should be forgotten; or at least evolved to fit a different use.
What it has in absolutely motivating testosterone FUCK YEAH MURICA, " lets kick some ass!" it lacks in real world wisdom for anyone else. It is a wonderful mindset to have to keep you alive in the worst of times, but it fails when there is no war to fight.
What happens when you have no motivation or reason to "push forward and fight"? What happens when the worst you have to do is get a 9-5 job and just make enough money to feed the kids? What happens when survival is no longer an immediate day-to-day worry?
i'll let you figure that out.
I agree with the idea that in order to become the best at something you need to be obsessed with it.
"time is god's currency"- Me
For instance,
Marco Pierre White (FYI, The famous chef that was the youngest ever to win a michelin star and was mentor of Gordon Ramsay) said he worked 16 hours a day, 6 days a week in the kitchen to perfect his passion.
But he ,after winning the michelin stars and becoming the best known chef in the world, said he was still not satisfied and even quit professionally cooking for a while because it had become boring to him.
long story short, you can never be satisfied with acquiring things and emotions. the only time the race is exciting is when the race is still happening.
When you hit the finish line, then what? You're not done with life, you didn't die. what next then?
Stop looking for finish lines and enjoy the race. For there are no finish lines in life except for the ones we humans have made.
For every mountain, there is a valley.
Just enjoy the moment and try to learn to enjoy the race.
Narcisism 101. More more more
“My balls itch” - Goofington
@@3mparchangel357 bruh no one cares
@@Klipz.Central1 my peepee bigger
Wait, that guy thinks his shirts are shrinking, mate YOU ARE GETTING BIGGER
3:18 btw
CVNT Security keyboard warrior lol you ain't gonna do anything
I knew I noticed Dick guy from somewhere
+OfficialMaxc that guy is everywhere lol. Alphadestiny's Channel, espoused tv, shadow man is mostly were ull see him though. I've seen him on non fitness channels too though
Why are you defending a racist? A defender of injustice? Quite confusing if you asked me.
Imagine how bad this guy would've been in lockdown! Poor guy
Yikes
Must have ordered weight not stuff or he must have had some already on him on case
Dudes depressed no doubt
I'm sooo glad the gyms barely closed where I live!
@@missano3856 where was that bro?
That guy's body is pretty much my goal - he just looks solid.
fo real like he said"how can anybody enjoy what is here" he looks really great natural and solid
Dude what about your face?
Its not a good body, his arms is too small in comparison with the body, if you want to know whats good, look at men's physique top 5.
Digital Nation sounds like you have the same problem he has.
@@QuanLovesGaming My thoughts exactly.
that indian dude seems like a really nice guy
jeremy p he’s s fuckin g
Yeah was just thinking that
Put him on a real cycle
@@toddgoogle4387 Sure he is already in. When you have bigorexya you end taking roids.
@@Chrisxulo what does this mean in English?
This guy just made a new saying for going to the gym that I’m going to use.
Call up my gym friends like “let’s go shrink some shirts”.
I like that
I like to say “build some beef” because it makes people cringe. “Headed to tha swole hole” is my second favorite. What can I say? I’m a flex offender.
@@Muricanwerewolf make them pussies cringe😂
Lets go widen some assholes
“Why can’t you just do the work .. like a machine” has been stuck with me for years in the gym
because to get the most out of training, you have to train with emotion and intensity. machines dont have emotion and intensity.
@@Game7Mode So true...My most intense workouts are when I feel the worse. I need stress, anxiety and anger to have the motivation to workout hard
The indian fella looked fantastic!
+Plum The guy in the red vest with glasses is big but certainly not massive,
especially when you compare him to the guy in the background at 10:45
who has that 'thick' look...
Well, i never commented anything about massive. Hes aesthetically pleasing, but not huge. Aint no body care about chodes.
+Plum What was his name? I wanna follow this guy.
+Plum steroids, they work.
+Plum He's clearly on roids btw. Unless he's been training for 10 years.
I have bigodicksia.
Bigcockrexia
@@sash0047 You should get that checked out.
@@DatKundalini you should also get that checked out
@@haichah lmao
🤔🤔🤣🤣🤣🤣
I wish they would give this a more serious name. Side note, first guy looks like an Indian version of the guy from Broscience.
OMG yes he does XD
+Jay C Dom is way bigger tho
+Jay C hahahah does he fuck
Muscle dysmorphia
Dom is so much bigger and doesn't train legs
Proud but never satisfied.
+ImmaR4peYoAszz Well said!
:D true
+ImmaR4peYoAszz Christian Guzman
mokoz7196 no.
+ImmaR4peYoAszz Yes? Christian Guzman openly promotes the quote and lives by it, Mokoz7196 is simply referencing him...
Im so blown away by the first guy. Hes beautiful, that's awful he feels that way.
The guy featured throughout the video, right? If yes, OMG, I agree 300%. He looks like perfection, and I still feel like that word doesn't do his appearance justice. I can't believe he feels like he hasn't surpassed his goals...
that's pretty much like all bodybuilders think, it's not that you don't like your body, but the work is never done, there is always room for improvement.
Unfortunately he’s on the juice, that much is crystal clear.
lastplayer
What’s wrong with you? Cretin
@@jimbolic0809 His physique is good, far from perfection.
I know how real this state of mind is.
I was in the army and got posted overseas for 12 months, with nothing to do in my spare time but go to the gym. The whole time I was doing it, I’d look in the mirror and couldn’t see any gains. I stopped lifting once I got home. At the end of those 12 months I had a picture taken of my physique, I look back at that photo now and realise how good my body looked at the time, seems crazy that I couldn’t see it back then.
I had the same experience but in college when I trained for basketball...thank you for serving our country.
Half of the problem is the secretive side of body building. Top level bodybuilders will claim they don't use steroids/growth hormones/ diuretics/insulin until they're blue in the face, this leads teenagers to believe all this is achievable by just drinking protein shakes and working out. Once they really become involved in the lifestyle and discover the truth a few tablets or a few needles a week doesn't seem that much more of a sacrifice. Next minute they are pumped full of hormones and eating 7 meals a day.
Yep. Totally agree. But if they did the right thing and admitted it, they lose their Celltech sponsorship, which in all reality is paying for their test and GH.
What popular bodybuilder hides his use of steriods. All of the olympia competitors admit it... Do ur research.
Robert H You know absolutely nothing and your comment shows it. Type in your UA-cam search bar 'Dennis Wolf Talks Steroids and Bodybuilding'. I can find plenty more proof to back up myself, I'd like to see you back up your comment now. Show me one person who competed at the Olympia admitting use. I've done my research, now it's your turn.
+Andrew Payne I hope this is just a really poor attempt at a troll from Robert... Rich Piana is probably the only guy I have seen go on record talking sense about AAS use. The rest will never come clean until maybe long after they retire. Watching them all deny it does make me laugh however.
+Andrew Payne The reddit r/bodybuilding id laughing at this video bc they are the guys you people think have bigorexia. Im sure there are body builders who claim to be natty, but the most popular ones like sadik, big ramy, etc are sponsored by companies that promote steroids and anyone who follows a bodybuilder should know that they use steroids. Also, no disrespect to them, because its not automatic muscle when you take steroids. Thank you, dont mean to kill the mood, but just an opinion from a teen who actually follows bodybuilders.
When he is 35-40 with kids and a wife he will look back at this video and say. What the hell was I thinking. Id love to look like that again.
Anthony Efx unless he just stays in shape?
Jeff cavalier and most athletes and x athletes just keep training infact it’s why I started training, I want to give my future children a positive role model
I started working out years into my marriage.
😂😂😂👍🏼
Im pretty sure hes not dumb enough to get married.
Anthony Efx why the fuck would you let your physique go just cause of family
The poor fella needs some friends to give him some confidence..
@Matthew New hes not really full of himself, more like your full of shit!
Thats actually tlvery true. Once people say you look big and good you start to feel alot better, but it has to come from lifters or from people who you know for a fact theydont just mess with you.. It all comes down to insecurity of being small and never good enough.
You can have all the friends in the world but if ur not happy with yourself... having friends won't do shit
Confidence comes from within
Confidence is childish.
He said “ how can anyone enjoy what is here, is I MYSELF dont like like what im seeing”....This statement alone proves to me the existence of this mental state someone can be caught up in. It must be a struggle to live like that smh.
Ikr, his body is hot af. Guys would be blowing up his Grindr lol. Def a real disorder.
Quite sure they're putting além drama in their statements. It's BBC
It is. And it is not .deep inside we enjoy it
@@herbertcumberbatch7323
Thinkagaij why he lives alone? Propably slaying tinder every bight
He should try posting that question on Grindr! 🙄
Such a shame with the indian guy - he really looks great
He looks fine but he is not big enough
@@elsunshine9976 What do you mean he isn't big enough? The guy is huge.
@@ChrisM-bn5vr maybe for the average guy buy not for someone who is compiting profesionally
@@elsunshine9976 hes not an ifbb pro or Cbum. Hes a normal dude and for a normal dude he looks great
@@heheheyup6573 like I said not big ENOUGH
Having this condition really sucks. Some days you don't even want to leave the house.
So true.
Let’s pray for Bradley Martin, I know he struggles with this 😢
the day you start lifting is the day you became forever small
maritimetimes Your comment 58 likes...comment above has 3.5k and its the same exact comment
Lol this is very true man!! But when ever i see big and massive people i only think that "everybody start just like me!"
"the day you start lifting is the day you became forever small"
Nah, it's all in their head. After 8 weeks, there would be a noticeable difference in muscle growth & how the body looks.
adu1991 Its a joke...From Dom Mazzeti lmao
+Nick's Health & Fitness
Oh, sorry, lol.
I'll admit that it went over my head.
I look at my biceps so much that I conestly think they are deacreasing in size
Smite X same lmao
Smite X me too
thought i was the only one glad this is normal lol
Smite X same
My tris are way too fucking tiny.
the body of the first guy is the perfect body I want to have
+Sjard Willems when u have it, you will hate it
+Randy Marsh highly doubt that
Sjard Willems then you will have your present body. And idolize someone else. It's like chasing a magic Dragon
+Randy Marsh Been watching them Vegan Gains?
is that wrong?
This is really sad. the guy probably has a solid meal prep, a strength program that works for him, and access to the equipment he needs, he just has the mental outlook that's always regressive. I hope he finds the mental strength to be able to look where he has been along with where he's going.
Interesting watch- especially the point on men not being as used to the media portraying how their image should be as women. I hope Bigorexia gets more attention.
Thanks Rob. Yes it seems to have gone unreported so far. Thanks for watching.
The issue is - For a woman to look good - Just dont eat like a hippo and maybe take a walk once in a while. For a guy to look up to a good girls standards, A LOT of exercise and thought into what you are eating has to be done, if you dont have monster genes.
A woman/girls body is often a lot more naturally beatiful than a guys, and the standard "muscle" wise is a lot higher for the men.
Very true!
It is changing more and more every day for girls as well with the whole instagram fitness movement. But for a girl it is basically, be kinda cute and dont be fat. For a guy, be 190cm tall and ripped or else ur fucked.
Confidence goes a long way. If girls only went for ripped 190 cm tall guys then 90% of the male population would be single...
+Martin Madsen That's not really what we're talking about. We're not talking about personality in terms of attractiveness, we're talking physically. We're talking about how much effort it takes a male vs. female to appear physically attractive. Did you not read anything Doggepp even said?
+Doggepp or £££. Trumps anything unfortunately
Not even joking, but the Indian dude has one of the best front double biceps. Aesthetic as fuck.
Very interesting, especially what was said about women adjusting to the pressure. I think women have so much support available to them because people are aware of the body image pressures they face. The same needs to be done for guys!
+Kat Horrocks Thanks Kat. Really interesting point you make. Rob told us there needs to be more help for guys. Thanks for watching.
+Kat Horrocks mega like
07:58 "Men aren't meant to look like women"
*Has a ponytail*
long hair was considered masculine though.
YO...Having long hairs mean not caring for looks unlike "Women"
Most dumbest comment i have ever seen
Mr. Eminem I’m quoting the video moron
You know long hair isn't considered primarily a "feminine" thing anymore, right?
Ollie’s poor mother! Listening to her was heartbreaking .
This video is 7 years old and things still really haven't changed. I got into fitness a few years ago and enjoyed seeing the transformation process over time, but I don't believe it contributed all that much to my happiness. After two years of fully committing to a lifestyle of fitness and muscle gain, I suddenly got bored and worked out less and less frequently, becoming more loose with my diet. These days, I've never managed to regain that same kind of commitment I initially had, but I've learned to make peace with it. If nothing else, it's given me tools to manage my daily fitness and health to a moderate degree, but I think I'm much happier not feeling the need to constantly compare myself to how I looked yesterday, entering a constant cycle of pushing myself further and harder than is necessary. Some people I know are still on it, and though they look great, I can't say that we've stayed close since - maybe because their obsession with their physique is taking so much time away from their social lives. I believe everyone has a right to pursue whatever passions in life they desire, but my only condition would be that it's something that provides real meaning and joy for them, rather than something they think they need to aspire to.
If anything its got way worse due to shit loads of fake natties and juiced up Hollywood actors lying about their gains and volume
Remuve your chest hair and you look bigger for sure trust me...
etam sanbary true, I done this the other after having a hairy chest and my chest looks a lot more defined
fuuuuk… men trying to be big strong men shaving hairs like a woman.... then they eat more than they need and spend hours in the gym what a life sucking lifestyle... just eat healthy, work hard and get knowledge if you want to be a real man... these "big men" are women living in their head fussing over every single muscle smh what a mental illness
But not the Chest. I Looks way more defined and muscular with shaved Chest...But i dont like shaving hahaa
if you want to be big you must eat a surplus of calories, also bodybuilding is a lifestyle that people do because they enjoy it.
i'm pretty sure he shaves it in this way so his pecs are highlighted, just like Rich Piana had his tattoos highlight the parts he proud of
The first dude has a great fucking physique wtf
Tp Games metal gear?
joe monroe omg you solved it. The new metal gear isn’t a machine, but a human.
His body looks goooood!!
u can get a body like that naturally ,but its plausible he is on " gear " because people with dismorphia will do anything do grow
His physique ugly as hell his pecs are too short
Wow! A handsome, articulate, educated, and physically fit man feels unlovable because he can't love himself. Shocking. Sad. Unforgettable. I hope an update is done on him and he gets help.
I don't get how this guy died from a heart attack, I mean I get that, but how the fuck is Rich Piana still alive
Matt Konny rich piano
Matt Konny when you put any foreign substance in your body there is a risk your unique body can't handle it. While rich certainly does push the limit, he is educated on the subject, and understands the risk associated with each cycle. this kid probably hopped on a crazy cycle with no experience
Jattmosh Sports well yeah without a doubt his habit is gonna kill him one day. he will probably have a massive heart attack within the next 10 years if he continues at this pace. however you must respect the fact that he has been living that lifestyle successfully for longer than most can at that level.
Badluck on the kids part.
Matt Konny Rich also uses large amounts of synthol which I believe is just oil which gives a bigger appearance, not sure how often you have to inject it or if it already stays in the body.
@1:30
Narrator: Do you ever feel too small.
Indian guy: ofcourse (camera zooms to crotch)
fuckin lol
Time?
@@justina9914 around 1min 30 I think
@@jugsy7305 thanks bro
@@justina9914 no worries bro
For me, I was small when I was younger, inoffensive and easy to push around. Getting big was a massive realtiation for me and it was very easy for me to get carried away with my image. I've learned to keep ontop of those feelings and know that working out is a small part of my whole life. Its more a hobby of mine rather than a MAIN thing I do now and I enjoy it for that.
This is a classic case of a strong body with a weak mind. One should aim to master the mind to control the vehicle.
Alex Dumitrescu he’s mentally stronger than most people it’s insane the amount of discipline it takes to get that big naturally
@@Wavyso No way he did it naturally though...
But yeah, still takes more discipline than most people have, even with gear.
Mattias Gabrielsson that physique is attainable naturally tho it isn’t ridiculously big
You can't master your mind unless you come to terms with your limitations. Don't drag a man down instead why not support & acknowledge acceptance of ones flaws is a step closer to mastery of ones mind.
@@SnowHawkX if he wasn't natural he would be injecting what ever steroid directly into the body parts he sees as lagging
“He’s not taking steroids. Instead he eats well and works out”. He must be a gym shark athlete too.
To be honest, london and uk looks dull and depressing!
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/London
That’s because it is! Cloudy ass gray country where all can do is drink and watch sports
@@SuperGreatSphinx in the bright side here in Texas our weather is 100 degrees and up
chris ortiz right now 105
How the BBC WANTS US TO FEEL DOWN AND GREY WAKE UP
6:58 Yeah, expect the standards for women are MUCH lower, and most male physiques displayed in the media are actually unachievable naturally.
First, the standard for women is just to have low body fat with no real muscle development, which is literally the starting point for a guy, at this stage he is just a skinny whimp. After that he needs at least a few years of bulking and cutting, with consistent training and good diet to put on a decent amount of muscle mass. The standard for men is low body fat combined with high muscle mass, which is the hardest combination to achieve.
Second, the vast majority of physiques is media are enhanced, from men using all sorts of performance enhancing drugs. Steroids are incredibly common, and not just among competitive bodybuilders, most male models of social media who keep growing big and staying shredded are on some sort of drug. So men are bombarded with standards that are actually unachievable.
To be completey fair for our ladies here, they do have some "standards" (though in reality no one truly gives a shit, but neither do people for men, it's as we all know "merely" the media standard that we all think we need to achieve) that they can't even achieve without surgery. I mean, the same is sort of true with men, with having this "amazing" jawline and whatnot. But having huge boobs and a big ass isn't necessarily things a skinny chick can achieve either by just working out, so that's kinda a genetic thing (or surgery) as well. Granted the "models" we see don't have those, they are just sort of shredded and that's it, but then again so are the male models, don't confuse models with fitness models. Most models or actors (in movies) aren't actually that big. There's this movie with Ryan Gossling in a scene with a chick saying he looks photoshopped, when he barely hits 10% bodyfat with a little bit of muscle mass.
I mean I don't disagree on there being some sort of push that implies men should look like the Rock or Arnold, incredibly tall and massive looking whilst shredded, but there's also the push that says you can be a skinny/summer beach motherfucker and still hit it. The only thing that comes in the way of that is the saying of men having to be "strong and muscular" (which is more of a mindset than a set picture in our heads) - The entire topic is so illusive, there's all kinds of standards and you can't meet them all. I think there are only a few "actual/real" standards my dude, shit like be "x" tall and be slim/athletic looking, but not actually too big, those are standards that actual chicks will throw at you, not just some weird socia media thing you might never actually encounter if you don't give a shit.
I highly disagree with You as a woman. Women's ideal body type is not just being thin, that's outdated and uneducated point of view. First of all it's not easy to loose weight for everyone. People who have type 2 diabetes in families, in general have worse glucose metabolism and higher storage of fat, so they need to exercise more than healthy population. Often obese people have mutations in receptors of neurons (brain cells) that control appetite, so for them control of appetite is much harder than for normal person, e.g. MC4R mutations. 2. women are expected these days to have very thin waist (sign of low % fat percentage) and large breasts and butts (high fat), which is not achievable without surgery for many body types or clothes that modify body shape. Just look at any female character drawn and you will see very fast how unreal the body types are. Women are expected to have perfect skin, not everyone has genes for that, there are chronic hormone issues that only affect female part of population, e.g. PCOS and people who have that illness have chronic acne and will never have clear skin even with heavy painful treatments like laser therapies or retinoids. Also pressure for women to become muscular also increases in our times and pretty sure that this form of body dysmorphia is present in women as well. Women are expected to have long hair with high volume, not everyone has hair that has high thickness or hair growth to sustain long hair. A lot of women spend shit ton of money on hair extensions or wigs just to have ideal hair. My body dysmorphia has worsened when I started training and now I can carry on until point of injury and even further just to prevent missing out a training or otherwise I will develop fear of loosing muscle and getting fatter. 4. Let's remember that women had to deal with pressure to look well for centuries (evidence of make up usage by women reaches as far back as ancient Egypt) unlike men for whom this type of issue is recent. More women have died due to anorexia and bulimia than men due to muscle dysmorphia. 6. dieting and keeping weight in check also involves training for many years, fasting/cutting periods, lots of hard work, just the same amount as growing muscle 5. women are still in certain countries forbidden to go school, drive or vote, cannot own land etc. Lastly, I am not saying this to be disrespectful to male suffers of muscular dysmorphia, but by saying women have it easier or lower standards of ideal body type, this is absolute bullshit!
@@Aratrok1 Big butts are achievable by working out. Those butts are even better than the 'fat distribution-mostly-around-ass- butts' breasts of course are mainly genetics, but personally I like all well shaped ones that are just not too big. And then there are also a lot of guys who get completely turned on by Z cup breasts.
Agata Czap no what you typed is complete bullshit. Staying lean is much easier than staying leaning and building muscle mass, you got that wrong and the rest of your rambles are ridiculous sorry
@@HeyhitmeBAM You are being ridiculous. All of that is based from my experience as female and that of other women, from biology at university level and from societal pressures women face. Also women aren't required just to stay lean! And being lean also means certain level of muscle mass that must be sustained anyway. Obviously, this comment slot is filled with narrow-minded, ignorant men who never gave a fuck to consider perspective of the other gender. And yes women these days are expected to lift to get nice butt and nice breasts. Just check easily instagram posts, perfect example!
"They" don't want you to get big, "they" don't want you to be happy ... another one ... "they" don't want you to be successful in reaching you goals. So what are we going to do? We're going to get bigger and stronger, we're going to be happy and we're going to achieve ALL our goals! Major key!
+Nabil Arifi That's very accriate! Cocoa butter is the key! Somebody has been spending a lot of time on Dj Khaled's snapchat.
Peter To Hahahaha, khaled is life. Don't forget Dove deodorant!
Bless up
yep
It's a joke. You obviously don't know who DJ Khaled is.
This video actually convinced me to work out harder...
Dude just do it. The first dude is just a perfectionist. If you work out self confidence will follow.
I’ve suffered with this condition for 13 years and I cover up all year round, lost relationships, family unit all because of the gym, my identity got built around training and I’m trying to break free of it but it seems near to impossible
Ah man hope you can gwt through it YOU CAN DO IT. if you allways live your life allways thinking about the end result you may not neccecsrly enjoy the thing your working so hard to achieve as there is no end goal (e.g not using a bike to keep it new but it eventually susts away). Enjoy the moment and be proud of yourself!
@@thegeekaboveall2711 I’ve got therapy for it and I’m pushing to get out of it, I’ve covered myself up for so long that I try and hide in the summer but I don’t want it to affect taking my son places so I just bare the weather regardless of how hot or close to exhaustion I get
Same here mate. The worst part for me is seeing muscle turning to fat. It’s incredibly hard. I need my muscles to be hard. Softness feels like fat. My girlfriend says I look great but I think she’s just being kind. If I don’t work out I get seriously depressed. I know I go too far but I need it
@@j0nnyism LOL
@@jimmylives What you laughing at pal
"what effects does it have on you personally" proceeds to ask a mother that had lost her son
Yeah I thought he asking that was inappropriate in his position
Journalists are scum.
With the society that runs now with all those gym influencer this will get worst.
"men weren't meant to look like women": has a ponytail
+actionfan1000 ikr haha
actionfan1000 ahahahha
actionfan1000 Long hair is considered a very masculine triat; native Americans, Nordic people's, most Asian peoples. Short hair started as a symbol of vanity and wealth as only the wealthy could afford regular haircuts.
Fuken lolll
Yeah, it's a pony tail.....not boobs.
I don't see anything wrong with men or women having long hair. It's not exclusive to one gender.
So many ppl at school say I’m huge now but in my head I look EXACTLY like them
"Women cope better with having to look a certain way."
WAY OFF on that one bro.
yes we do i am a fat bird, the difference with me is i love me poor pradeep
men are judged based on WEALTH and ACCOMPLISHMENTS. an ugly girl is still ugly even with a million dollar mansion. LOOKS MATTER for women, NEVER men!
I disagree. For men, many people believe the physical standard of beauty is a muscular physique, and the average woman will rate 80% of men as being below average attractiveness. For women, many people just believe a slim build is attractive. Becoming a woman with a ‘good body’ is far easier than becoming a man with a ‘good body’. Take it from someone who’s been trying and failing for several years.
Agreed ^
Its way easier to look good for women than men
@@HawkSlam Huh. That's interesting, I didn't think of it like that. Being female, I'm actually more attracted to slim men versus very muscular men.
the therapist absolving women and their standards of their part in male body concerns is troubling.
what this says is, in our culture, women are seen as being able to do no wrong.
the inherent sexism to this way of thinking is lost on these fools.
Wtf you on about, fighting an invisible ghost
@@sonaliano this is the truth of how men's future is doomed in the world due to sexuality and also women.
it actually makes sense for that poor manlet to die from steroids and maybe that is a better outcome than living with bad health simply to try to ever get a girlfriend.
however, women desire a certain top echelon of men, and this can be called a "ghost" because this is pure consciousness but it has real world reasons and effects.
it is simply how evolution works, there was no point for the documentary to interview this psychiatric charlatans or clueless women.
however, i find their exclusion important since it offers a direct look into the ignorance of hypocrisy.
Omg if he feels small I have to be a little unmuscular dwarf.
It is a very interesting topic and I think it is very hard for someone who does not suffer with the condition to fully comprehend the thought process behind the men with 'bigorexia'.I suffered for several years with this condition from a teenager until my mid 20's. It led me down quite a dark path where I effectively lived only for bodybuilding. I started to enter bodybuilding competitions as a way to give some sort of meaning to what I was doing on a day to day basis( ie eating 7x meals, training up to 3 times a day,taking performance enhancing substances).I ended up missing out on so many opportunities and pushing so many people away due to the obsession with improving my body. I felt compelled every day to do anything and everything in my power to attempt to improve my physique. It was bordering on insane, yet I couldn't see it. I lost jobs, friends, relationships, money and caused family rifts just so I could pursue this pointless endeavour. As I look back now it all seems crazy to me and I feel thankful I got through it and have some normality in my life now. I use the gym a few times a week and don't particularly worry about how I look,just try to enjoy being fit and healthy. I still have many friends ego suffer from the condition yet for the most part people don't see it as a problem, they just treat it as if it's normality.I really hope this documentary helps to shed some light on the matter and that the general public begin to get an idea of how much damage can be caused to people's lives because of this.
+Luke Macheta Great comment. You offer a real understanding (by living through it) and insight into how devastating Muscle Dysmorphia is. Congratulations on your recovery.
I’m glad that this is getting coverage
Step 1: Be emotionally and mentally mature.
Step 2: Worry about getting huge.
who here trains for 2+ hours but knows its still not enough
lol I only do 45 minutes to 75 minutes. depending on what I'm doing
Josh Graves If you include cardio and weight lifting. 2 hours is barely enough to maintain.
Shock I take 2 to 2.5 hours for lifting, cardio is separate. No gym partner, no slacking, no phone time, just a lot of work. Some of us just have longer workouts.
Josh Graves dorian yates trains 45mins, 4times a week.
I train two hours per day and sometimes I feel like I didn’t push myself enough during those two hours 😥
Bro the Indian dude has one of the best natural physiques I've ever seen
He aint natural tho sorry
Natural KEKW
It's possible he's natty, would have to see his physique as a child and teen to know for sure. Depends on his genetics and how many years of serious training.
@@cosmic_gate476
Nah, traps, delt caps and perma pump are a dead giveaway.
He's juicing something......once a month....
*Social Media has made everyones life seem perfect…..or to strive for perfection* smh...
Aaand porn. Don't forget porn.
@@Sara-yz7nc I need porn...not social media. Haha
Yeah I was like this in my teens and 20s . I started lifting seriously when I was 13 ……wasted all my time in the gym , miss family parties, denied going out with friends, I had no life eat every 4 hours , I stopped when I was 27 so 12 years . I’m 31 now I just do burpees and take walks ( I never want to do this again). I’m much happier now
Very insightful. The way I see it, being buff is a reflection of health, vitality and purposefulness. It should be part of an overall ("holistic") approach to being a confident and well balanced man. But I guess lots of guys go into muscle building without any of these thoughts in mind and the just focus on the muscles. I'd love if gym owners would fill their gyms with self-development pamphlets, DVDs and so forth to encourage guys to take this kind of holistic approach to fitness and life generally.
+aMensView Well spoken. People get into the lifestyle, but forget that it's actually just that - life - yours. Not just hypertrophy. But everything gets affected. Your muscles are attached to your body. Your mind. Your personality. Your reputation, and how people perceive you. The decisions you make surrounding that endeavor of attaining a physique will affect you much, much more than just filling out a sleeve. Too bad you can't teach this to people. You have to experience it first hand.
When I joined the gym I was skinny, then I started packing on weight and muscle went up a t shirt size then looked skinny in that t shirt ,so I bought a string vest looked ok then summer came I went on a cut and then looked shredded , welcome to the world of gym never happy with your physique allways chasing perfection but damn I do love it 😍 🔥🔥🔥💪🏼💪🏼💪🏼
I really don't know how to take this. Maybe its my age but I have a 'look' I am aiming for, training hard and still trying to get there despite some injuries along the way. I would never in a million years take short cuts, or do I want to look like someone who is about to compete.
Is it media pressure? Or are people just looking more excuses to blame outside sources for their lack of own willpower?
jigglybean Usually a combination of media pressure, social pressure and family influence. Body dismorphic disorders are often brought about by people (particularly parents) complimenting thier kids on mostly - thier body. You hear how good it is to be "big and strong" or "nice and thin", as why they (parents) are proud of you, it becomes "normal" to equate self worth with looks.
It’s simple, you can’t do the work like a machine, because you’re not a machine, you’re a human being with feelings and thoughts❤️
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Machine
You CAN do SOME things like a machine but that is only for a short periods of time and only NECESSARY things. It should not be a life style.
Aka a job to put food on the table. But in this case body building looking “perfect” is there job. They must have some sort of mindset that their BDD and self criticism allowed them to reach that level so they are dependent on their psychological distress
First guy looks great! I’d live to be in shape like him.
Do it while you still have time my friend !
Do it, but make sure you get a reliable steroid source!
@@elpistolero9394 no thanks
1:40 when he stopped in the middle of his sentence to pose Hahaha
Indian guy talks facts and is straight to the point. He understand the point of what the person is asking about the question instead of just answering the question. I dont think he has body dysmorphia to the point of being able to "be able to claim handicap checks". His parents were probably too Asian on him.
12:05 I think that is a great mentality this man has. Sure it's an issue when it gets in the way of other priorities in life, but when you have the dream to have an amazing body, never being satisfied is what will drive you to be the best you can be.
Such a strong body but with a weak mental state
DSRReacts retarded advice
If you are never satisfied you never achieve anything.
@@VOTVRe How does becoming bigger equate to being better? Aesthetically he is already at the point where he can reap all the benefits so it is just wasted time at this point unless he plans to compete.
AntiKiwieCS if you’re never satisfied you’ll never stop...
@@VOTVRe Yeah but you can easily relax the intensity and maintain a comfortable equilibrium.
@@AntiKiwieCS That is total BS, do you think all the people in this world who achieved something were satisfied at some point? They weren't.
missed the chance of a great headline: "Brorexia"
Insensitive, but I laughed
humans are never happy
I am :) you can be too.
Shadrach Unger
Shut up bich
Suck Deeznutz
ur mom gey lol
Shadrach Unger
oh no guess I die now
Ali Cina. Lol so true. Curly hair went straight vice versa big. Want small and small want big
Indian dudes physique is on-point, I agree with previous poster who said hes a perfectionist. The huge roided out LOOK really isnt aesthetically appealing imo.
He's obviously on roids. Look at his 3D deltoids and veins on his traps
@@MasterInHD you can get all these things naturally. But yes delts and traps have more androgen receptors so those tend to stand out on steroids
@@prestonarenbart8419 You talk like I don't know all of this. I'm from the fitness community. This guy is OBVIOUSLY on steroids.
Master dude you saw that he eats multiple meals a day n all the shit that maximizes muscle gain that physique is easily accomplished if you throw in some good genes and a handful of years of hard consistent work.
@@ian281 I know you don't know what you're talking about when you throw in some garbage ass bro science that has been debunked a million times like, "maximizing muscle grow with multiple meals" bullshit. LMAO, go watch IFBB Pro Greg Doucette and learn a thing or two about fitness.
bros... dont let haters(certified clinical proffesionals) holding it back from you, keep grinding! #dedicated #blessed
me:bro your legs look like twigs do you even squat ??
athar: jumps out his window an runs to the gyms squat rack then compulsively squats 400lbs
For reps*
I rotate my goals for the same reason. Heart rate, endurance, bulk, lean, agility, fasting. Gym is an integral part of my life.
This is so real. When I used to body build, I always thought I looked tiny, regardless of how many people in my life constantly told me how jacked I was. It’s just when you look at yourself in the mirror, you’re not seeing yourself objectively. You can’t really tell how big you are, because you are you and you don’t have a past version of yourself to contrast.
That indian guy is on gear as well lol
+George Austers 100%
Chaitanya Reddy lol the guy in red is juiced out of his fucking mind end of story.
Chaitanya Reddy I'm 37 I have over 20 years in the gym and I'm a personal trainer. Not that any of that is necessary to see this guy is on the gear. If he is NOT on the gear then he has the best genetics on the planet and needs to get on the gear and he'll be in the Olympia. His shoulders are big and full and dry and striated because that is where a lot of the male androgen receptors are located so they're the first to blow up, along with the traps. The rest of his body is smaller (relatively speaking) probably because he doesn't know what he's doing, if he did, he'd bring them up. If you don't think this guy is sticking needles in his arse then I don't know what to say. Apologies for the length of this response.
You're obviously not on gear, lol
Can we all just leave body image alone for a moment and appreciate the way he says "goal"? (2:30)
I hate how they try to brand wanting to better yourself as an illness. Its accepted when people take it to the max in their careers. But when it comes to personal goals and reaching personal maxes, people cant seem to grasp or understand it
"why can' you just do the work, like a machine?" ://
So the Indian guy has the same name as me... And is bigger than me... This calls for hard work... My nemisis
Update, I'm still not as big. So I'm doing martial arts instead 😂
As a guy that takes the gym seriously i can relate in many ways to these guys. I feel bad for the darker guy with glasses he looks great but i get his struggle because anyone that takes it seriously its almost never enough. In my case one day im happy and the next im like well i look ok. Bigorexia is real
7:59 “men are not made to look like women” says the guy with a ponytail
junaid ponytails are for both gender idiot
I’m sure every serious lifter in the world has bigorexia
7 years on it would be interesting to see what happened to these men and how their lives turned out?
I wish them all the best 🙏
1:19 This dude's body is already an inspiration to many men at gyms. Yet, he still feels unimpressed.
Brother you look good man.. 👍
The first guy is suffering through OCD not Bigorexia.
Word. He has ocd,a self centred narcissistic disorder and probably has problems relating to people,looks down on them.he has a great physique but a horrible voice really pissed me off.anyway i hope hes conquered his issues and is happier now
+Nugent milicent fat
Coach mcguirk is indeed fat, but one time he was so obsessed with his pecs that they literally exploded. You can find this on youtube!
Chaitanya Reddy Haha, Are they really all like that?
Ibhenriksen muscle dysmorphia is a form of OCD
I train not for myself, but for those who I can protect by being the best possible version of me I can possibly be.. By focusing on myself, I am better able to help others
I have the same exact problem, but it makes me train like never before🤔
Look strong so u don't need to be strong definitely not for me
That indian guy is probably one of the most ripped people ever for not being on steroids or PED. He has reached absolute peak
Nope. There is definitely more potential.
One it starts with awareness and the way the man speaks to himself
What's sad is that these guys might never achieve the look they want since everyone's muscle look different
I'll bet that muscle dysmorphia (did I spell it right?) is basically an extreme manifestation of the male ego, and it is probably a phenomenon of very recent times. Popular culture and the entertainment industry are quite likely major factors, as well.
If you have a friend or loved one who has this condition, compliment him on his physique as often as you can, and if you hear him say something derogatory about his body, respond with "you're bein' too hard on yourself. You're an absolute muscle stud ! Who TOLD you that nonsense about your arms/shoulders/pecs/calves(or whatever) not being big enough?! They're just jealous!"
Did we ask