There's a UA-cam video of a guy who modified his overheating cannon. ("DIY Perks" IIRC.) It illustrates that the overheating is by design and designers have been so cheap to use a timer function instead of a thermal sensor. Irrespective of the real inside temperature, the camera shuts down because of overheating. The video shows the guy opening the camera and how an active CPU cooling enables the camera to record movies forever. This leads him to a very simple modification of the way heat inside the camera is dissipated to the camera's outside back, passively. From there on, with the camera case closed again, a simple fan and folded away display are enough to keep the camera recording. I guess in English environmental temperatures - it may not work in the tropics. I cannot believe this is by-design "stupidity", but rather suspect it was done to protect the stake in a market segment of much more expensive video cameras.
@@jpdj2715 You're kind of correct. It was initially a timer, but DIY perks updates his firmware in order to make the camera temperature sensitive. After that his solution works well
@@xWood4000 - true. Thank you for explaining how he was able to get more time. Basically, the firmware update adds a bit of time in England's very moderate climate.
I owned the RIV before switching to the Z7II. The Z7II blows the EVF away of the RIV. It is not all about numbers. The color, contrast, etc is all better on the nikon. Many people have stated this about the nikons EVF.
These guys shouldn’t be allowed to see the spec sheet before reviewing these cameras. The Nikon cameras have superior optics in front of the EVF, which makes a bigger difference than pixel count. They also miss the fact that the refresh rate on Sony EVFs drop significantly when the shutter is half pressed, while this doesn’t happen on the Nikon’s.
@@ghas4151 I feel like they even said this before themselves on a past Z review. Could be wrong and maybe a different reviewer. Either way they can keep this EVF for as long as they want it would be my last complaint. Never opposed to an even better one either. I have noticed less “glitching” with my Nikon EVF which may be that Sony rate change. Wasn’t aware of that but now that would make sense why.
@@ghas4151 Seems to be somewhat subjective. I find the evf on the Nikons just as bad as the ones on the older Sony cameras. The a7r IV is looking slightly better, but gets somewhat clunky in use. The a9 II, S1R and R5 all have much, much better evfs than the Nikon, in my view.
When switching from Fujifilm, I’ve tried a few high-res FF cameras for a longer period end of last year. I shoot fashion and (make-up) portraits. The A7RIV, the S1R and the SL2 are all great cameras with excellent results, but when I tried the Z7 I was really impressed. The IQ is stellar at lower ISOs and in terms of tonality, color and fine details is actually close to my Hassy. Next to that the Z7 handles great with a perfect sized grip. The EVF might not have the highest pixel count and refresh rate but in terms of color and contrast it easily outperforms the A7RIV. It’s a large and beautiful natural viewfinder. The LCD is visibly much better than the Sony. I’m now eagerly awaiting my backordered Z7II along with some glass, which is another reason to seriously consider the Z-platform. The primes are stellar as are the f2.8 zooms, but even the f4 zooms are great quality at very reasonable prices. Nikon was slow at the game, but have created step-by-step an incredibly solid platform. Kudos to Nikon.
These guys shouldn’t be allowed to see the spec sheet before reviewing these cameras. The Nikon cameras have superior optics in front of the EVF, which makes a bigger difference than pixel count. They also miss the fact that the refresh rate on Sony EVFs drop significantly when the shutter is half pressed, while this doesn’t happen on the Nikon’s.
Like the Z6 II review - you missed the importance of the photo/video button. It makes hybrid work so much easier. It isn't on the latest Sony and Canon cameras. I really think it needs mentioning.
On my A7 III I have custom video modes set on custom 1 and 2, right next to manual on the dial so I can change very quickly between the 3, manual photos, 4K and 120fps 1080p videos much quicker than my Z6 II. The Z6 II switch is fine but I prefer the stronger custom controls without EVER having to use a menu (especially Sony’s ha ha). Nikon don’t let me set anything I’d like to custom buttons only what they think that button should be and it’s means I end with buttons that are switched off. My A7 lets me change any button to anything. (Obviously this is just my use case and opinion, it’s just the fact the Nikon’s 2 modes limit me more than the Sonys 3)
It's maybe a bit easier than the control dial, but I don't think it's a huge thing as long as the settings stay separated, which they do on the A7S III
@@xWood4000 I shoot hybrid on stages its a huge difference in speed believe me. Ive used the A73 and worked next various people using them and they struggle to switch as fast. I change instantly, and believe me I have to to get the clips and photos I need. Im not even a technically quick thinking operator. I'm at the coal face on this one. If you watch Taylor Jackson on this topic he confirms what Im saying. Its 2 clicks (my shutter is set to photo and video) 1 click to switch 2 shutter to take the shot/clip, all without taking my eye from the evf or off the back of the screen.
@@markshirley01 Yeah so its about the same then with the A7 for me. I don't look at the dial but its one click from photos to 4k video and two clicks from photos to 1080 120. My Z6 II is slightly slower because if I want to switch the FPS I've got to go into the menu for the Z6 so not so good (not aware of a way to speed it up). If I'm switching stills to 4k is virtually the same speed wise for me. Granted out the box its way slower on the A7, it takes quite a bit of setting up to get the custom modes sorted when you first buy it, I never use the dedicates movie or S&Q modes on it. The Z6 out the box switching between the one movie made and stills is certainly better. I just wish I had the customisation on the Z6's buttons including changing the grid from quarters to the rule of thirds. Clearly its just me but I never want the grid in quarters, not sure why Nikon thought that was better to leave that out when my D500 has it.
I recently upgraded from a D7200 to a Z7ii and am definitely enjoying my woodland photography shots much more with the resolution, colours, and dynamic range. It's also encouraged me to get back into video after an 8 year hiatus and I've been having a lot of fun shooting and cutting together family home videos.. My question is did you guys notice any practical differences if the Z6ii was any better at grabbing and keeping focus in really low light compared to the Z7ii when using eye-detect AF? Great video guys!
Gonna give a heads up to all watching this video. This is not a joke especially if you shoot weddings or studio work. This camera has the D850 sensor and it has the best colors of any modern nikon with OCF. please do not comment you shoot Raw all pros know what I’m talking about. Easier editing on the skin tones with mixed lighting. D850 one of the best in the market and now this camera will do the same! Love the colors here. I think may even rival Canons best.
As others have written here. Viewfinder experience is not just digital resolution but OPTICS and refresh as well. Please consider this in your group test...
Given that the 4K60p crop is smaller on the Z7II compared to the Z6II and that both can now shoot raw video I'm not so sure the Z6II is the default choice for video out of the two cameras now... Yes the files from the Z6II are sharper due to the sensor sampling but by how much? Nobody seems to have done a proper comparison yet on this aspect (at 4k 30p). Scrap that comment, the video comparison tool on the Z6II review actually shows the difference in sharpness between the Z6 and Z7, and the Z6 is definitely sharper by a noticeable margin.
I have used a 5 million dot EVF and the EVF in my Z7 stands up to it really well. I can't see much difference. I could see the pixels in the 2 million dot EVFs in some older cameras, but not in the Z6 and Z7 viewfinders, which are excellent. I think it is just number fixation. With the Nikon EVFs we are already at the point of diminishing returns.
In a imperfect world you photographers and reviews continue to want the perfect camera. Humans complain too much and everything. I bet this camera is just what you need
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Yes! First reviewer on youtube that also want a tilting screen in portrait mode on the Z cameras. So it’s not only me. 5:02
I've been wishing that Sony would steal Fuji's flipout screen from the XT2/XT3. I can't count how many times I could have used it for ground-level portrait orientation shooting. Instead, I had to sit ninety degrees to my subject with the screen flipped 'upwards', which was very confusing for framing.
I wish it would occur to one of the camera manufacturers that is using dual card slots that they could use the faster card to clear the buffer and then back up the slower card from the faster card afterward so to minimize the time when the user cannot shoot again.
One realy important feature that nobody talks about, are the medium raw images sharp? Unlike on the d850 where my medium and low raw files are terrible in sharpness :( did the fixed that on the z7 II ? Its important to me because i shoot alot of weddings and graduates,medum raw files whold greatly improve my workflow speed
@@СергейМогутов-ъ4д because i love this sensos and what it comes out of it, im not as much pleased with the 24 mp sensors from nikon as with this one,also doing studio and macro work,where i love my extra megapixels
@@aaloaalo It's IMO makes more sense just to down-sample them in post. This way you'll have all the resolution and details at the start of the process.It looks like NIkon can make those small RAWs the same way as video RAW - by line skipping or in some similar fashion. And I'm not sure that it can be done another way. This way some resolution is lost and therefore photos will be softer than Z6 files. Doesn't make much sense to me.
While you mentioned cameras, my suggestion for Jordan is trying different vintage lenses with interesting characteristics, maybe even possible some antique or x-ray lenses. I remember one video where guy mounted large format lens with bellows onto Sony a7s or something, the large format look for video was quite unique.
Just an amazing camera. It wasn't marketed for speed, but we know when the Z7 III comes out, they'll put that Expeed 7 in it. Game changer when Mark III is coming
@@planetfun85 That's funny. I own a D850, D500 and tons of glass to go with them. If I was a Canon shooter I wouldn't give a rats behind about Nikon's consistent failure to deliver on the mirrorless front.
Hi, as per my observation, image quality of D810 is better than Z7 II. I used 70-200 f2.8 lens on both the bodies. F mount lens adapted on to Z mount with adapter. I strongly believe there is an image quality difference.
I think, Nikon is going the right direction. It’s easy to say, just add this and that and than higher the price. I really think, that there’s a need for normal priced bodies. And this is also not cheap, it’s just a bit more affordable. When I think back, they asked 2000€ for my first Sony A7R, the RIII was 3200€ and an A7RIV started at 4000€, but I don’t see the prices for jobs rising that fast. For an Canon R5 they want 4500€, what a crazy amount of money, just for a camera with 45mpix. I think, Nikon shooters will be happy to pay „just“ 3300€ instead of 4500€.
this is often overlooked. especially now, when there are really nearly no jobs for photographers. at the moment it is more likely amateurs buy theses and then the price might be less important if you make your money with something else.
fingers crossed you can get the 300k subscribers. Camera I would suggest for shooting. Go with the first, the original, the Nikon D90. The first DSLR with video capabilities. Just watching Jordon crying would be worth the watch.
If subscribers goal is reached, make Jordan shoot with a older style GoPro and external audio recording 💥💥💥💪🏼. With bonus episode with “how it’s made” ☺️☺️
I hope Nikon doesn't put that stupid flip-out screen on their next cameras just because UA-camrs are crying about it. Most photographers don't want that. The UA-cam reviewers are so disconnected from the consumer, it's mindblowing.
Yep! It’s very annoying to hear them bitch about it every time. As a D850 user, I’ve never complained about not having one of those flippy-outty screens.
@@onthemoverealestatephotogr9655 They think every customer has a need to record themselves and make a vlog. 80% of my camera use is for photos, 20% for video, and I am always behind the screen, either recording things from my travels, or a birthday celebration, a family gathering. I never had any need to record myself and then look into a flip-out screen. It would actually bother me, if I needed the screen for certain types of photography, and it would flip on the side.
I appreciate all your details gentlemen. Fine review with lots of great points of the features ofg the new Nikon Z7II, in a fairly brief review. As always, bravo! 👏 📸 🙏
@@mrsusan893 for sure. I think a lot of people are too concerned with having the latest and greatest instead of actually getting out there to take photos...
In terms of EVF, I found that the one in the Z6 (and therefore the Z6II, Z7 and Z7II) was the nicest I have used, regardless of the pixel count. It is just nicer to the eye.
@@praetorian65 It is, but it's also a much better camera overall than the Z7 II. Whether an individual photographer needs the advantages like faster shooting, better af, better IBIS and so on is another matter of course. Someone who's purely a landscape shooter would probably prefer the Nikon.
freeze at 37 seconds. All you need to see. ua-cam.com/video/EG9FYeOay-Q/v-deo.html Nikon colors destroy the canon and Sony right out of the camera. Photographer or videographers can definitely appreciate beautiful colors and reduction in post. Dual processors have a huge upside for firmware upgrade via SnapBridge vs need for computer. DxoMark scored the Canon R5 sensor at 95 and the Z7 at 99. I’ll take that over EVF and front facing screen all day long. Rent both and I’m betting you will find the Z7 ii is every bit of the camera for 99% of users for less money and better glass. If you need 8k (be it limited for overheating) get the canon. Need 20 FPS, get the canon or Z6 ii gets pretty close
@@danharris2253 Converting Canon or Sony colours to Nikon colours takes literally one second in post, or zero if you apply the adjustment during import. Forget about "colour science" , it's nonsense. As far as dual processors go - whether you've got one or two isn't a big deal, the question is how powerful they are, and how efficient the software is. As it stands, Nikon would have to make huge improvements in firmware to match Canon and Sony. There's no reason to believe those two aren't going to improve through updates as well. Making the fact that Nikon is starting from behind into a positive is just a way of lying to yourself. Then there's the DxOMark scores - take a look at where the differences come from. Also take a look at the measurements that photons-to-photos got. There's virtually no difference in image quality between the Z7 II, the a7r IV and the R5, except for the Sony's higher resolution. I don't know why Nikon shooters have become the new Pentaxians. There's no reason to be so emotionally involved here. I'm a long time Nikon shooter, and still it's obvious that as of January 2021, the Z series cameras are noticeably lagging behind the competition from Sony and Canon. We can hope that Nikon leapfrogs them in the future, but to claim that they hold the pole position right now is simply, objectively false.
That's not a solution of the problem and a terrible idea to begin with. Not a solution because the copying process would take a lot of processing power and potentially buffer capacity, depending on how it's implemented. Not a good idea because if the first write gets corrupted at any point in the process, the copy to the second card will also be corrupt. In other words a faulty primary card would cause a good secondary card to only contain bad files.
@@youknowwho9247 why do you have to be so mean? I’m just asking a question. You should think about your life’s choices and think about how Christ can make more meaning in your life.
@@robertleidner9703 I was perfectly matter-of-factly there. If you think that was a mean comment, the internet really isn't the place for you. Also, did you notice that you just responded to a purely technical answer to your question with an implied personal insult? I suggest checking your own attitude before attacking others. In the interest of not "being mean" again I'll not dive into the nod to first century fairytales in your post too deeply. Just a personal opinion: Religious superstitions really don't add anything to this discussion, so just check them at the door, would you?
While those camera choices are certainly amusing, I'd love to see Jordan try out the newer iPhone's and try to make professional videos with them. I think they are a significant enough improvement over his current XR to justify trying out.
No one want use iphones to video. There is better stuff to that think. Hohhoiiiiii... i phone to this iphone tho that.... iphone is out now! Overpriced hipster shit.
WAIT!!! I’m a happy Nikon D7000 user. I would love to see some episodes talking about the D7k. It would be a great homage to all those great DigitalrevTV Kai Wong videos with what became the painted pink D7000.
Your videos are just getting better all the time! Thank you again for showing off the Nikon Z7II. With the Z9 now coming, what a wait for the D850 replacement. Could it be the second wonder camera announced by Nikon?
Hey, Thx for the awesome video! Really like your reviews and your style of doing it! What's about the autofocus compared to the Z6ii? Is it as fast as the Z6ii? Or are they at the same level now? Regards Stefan
Your reviews are always enjoyable, love you guys! I wish you focused more on the hybrid/video side. Mentioning and maybe testing out things like external video raw and resolution/ pixel binning against the little sister. Also we want to see more of that Jordan Drake's face 😜 Oh, before i forget, I wish Jordan to shoot 4 episodes on 16mm film!
thanks for the raw files, I will be able to test the dynamics at 64 iso and the noise at 6400 iso with different software. I have a Z6 and I am very interested in the Z7 II
8:45 - about video sharpness. I don't shoot video, let alone raw, but read elsewhere that "raw" video from a Z camera might have different levels of sharpening applied depending on some profile setting. I had - naively - assumed that profile settings did not impact "raw" but in video there is no real native raw, apparently. Set to a "flat" or "neutral" profile, there was less sharpening and this was done in post by that writer.
3.6 million dots not enough? At the magnification level you present to your eye? You may have 120 million rods and cones in your eyes, but these are partially wired in the retina in a way that leaves you with extremely lossy compression and a maximum resolution of 1/6th. We can compare numbers, and be faithful at that, but we also have to look at validity and relevance. Have you heard of that man who could not swim that tried to cross a river with an average depth of 2 feet? He drowned.
I agree. I don't see the point in having more dots on an evf. Their evf is extremely sharp and eyes can only handle 30 fps anyway. If Nikon told everyone it had 20 mil dot evf at 240 fps no one would notice the difference.
I got it- A Ricoh GR III. I remember how much he raved about it in the review!!! Chris: "Now Jordan will talk about the video," Jordan: "No, I'm good!" ..Joe
Good review; just a note, subject tracking isn't the mode to use for sports and action - use Auto Area AF, Wide, and Dynamic depending on the situation.
That does not make any sense. Not only is shooting moving subjects the entire and only purpose of the subject tracking mode, having it be unusable for those purposes is also a step back from 3D tracking in Nikon's four year old DSLRs. Of course the *tracking* mode is meant to *track* moving subjects - the implementation is just a failure.
Hello Chris and Jordan , Happy New year to the great DPReview team that I enjoy a lot following here on UA-cam !! I can't wait the next week video comparison of the top brand cameras ! yes !. i wish you guys reach up to 300 000 subscriptions. One Question : Why Chris still pronounce N"i"kon instead of Neekôn/ ? hèé ?? I hope lens (Sigma or Tamron etc...) will open soon on Nikon z mount, You guys can probably get more infos on this announcement !! ? thanks
As for the EVF. I completely get your point. But Ironically I think that a better EVF could make a camera less usefull for me. I say ironically because I have bad eyesight, so the quality of the EVF is extremely important. But higher resolution could mean a 'refinement' in the styling of the menu or in the implementation of contrast detection that wouldn't work for me. Just sayin', in case Nikon is reading these comments. :-) In general, but certainly in case of the EVF, I'm extremely happy with my original Z.
i had a Canon t2I. And it was a GREAT camera until it died. shoot episodes with DJI Pocket 2. I think Jordan will be pleased given its size, price, and best stabilization
Maybe Jordan can find the granddaddy of Video capable DSLR cameras. The one that started it all the Nikon D90. And the one that followed but with a FF sensor the Canon 5D. I think I got the names right it has been a long time.
About the only beneficial feature added was 4K 60p internal. Dual cards, eye AF and more fps was irrelevant for what it was already. Hopefully it has better battery efficiency and bitrates for video but I'm pretty sure it's still the same. Nikon tends to give you just what you need, nothing extra.
Finally, weather is cold enough so canon R6 doesn't overheat
Sick burn... Regardless of the weather
There's a UA-cam video of a guy who modified his overheating cannon. ("DIY Perks" IIRC.) It illustrates that the overheating is by design and designers have been so cheap to use a timer function instead of a thermal sensor. Irrespective of the real inside temperature, the camera shuts down because of overheating.
The video shows the guy opening the camera and how an active CPU cooling enables the camera to record movies forever. This leads him to a very simple modification of the way heat inside the camera is dissipated to the camera's outside back, passively. From there on, with the camera case closed again, a simple fan and folded away display are enough to keep the camera recording. I guess in English environmental temperatures - it may not work in the tropics.
I cannot believe this is by-design "stupidity", but rather suspect it was done to protect the stake in a market segment of much more expensive video cameras.
@@jpdj2715 You're kind of correct. It was initially a timer, but DIY perks updates his firmware in order to make the camera temperature sensitive. After that his solution works well
@@xWood4000 - true. Thank you for explaining how he was able to get more time. Basically, the firmware update adds a bit of time in England's very moderate climate.
You are so funny, thank you very much for such interesting and rich information!
I owned the RIV before switching to the Z7II. The Z7II blows the EVF away of the RIV. It is not all about numbers. The color, contrast, etc is all better on the nikon. Many people have stated this about the nikons EVF.
These guys shouldn’t be allowed to see the spec sheet before reviewing these cameras.
The Nikon cameras have superior optics in front of the EVF, which makes a bigger difference than pixel count.
They also miss the fact that the refresh rate on Sony EVFs drop significantly when the shutter is half pressed, while this doesn’t happen on the Nikon’s.
@@ghas4151 I feel like they even said this before themselves on a past Z review. Could be wrong and maybe a different reviewer. Either way they can keep this EVF for as long as they want it would be my last complaint. Never opposed to an even better one either. I have noticed less “glitching” with my Nikon EVF which may be that Sony rate change. Wasn’t aware of that but now that would make sense why.
@@ghas4151 Seems to be somewhat subjective. I find the evf on the Nikons just as bad as the ones on the older Sony cameras. The a7r IV is looking slightly better, but gets somewhat clunky in use. The a9 II, S1R and R5 all have much, much better evfs than the Nikon, in my view.
When switching from Fujifilm, I’ve tried a few high-res FF cameras for a longer period end of last year. I shoot fashion and (make-up) portraits. The A7RIV, the S1R and the SL2 are all great cameras with excellent results, but when I tried the Z7 I was really impressed. The IQ is stellar at lower ISOs and in terms of tonality, color and fine details is actually close to my Hassy. Next to that the Z7 handles great with a perfect sized grip. The EVF might not have the highest pixel count and refresh rate but in terms of color and contrast it easily outperforms the A7RIV. It’s a large and beautiful natural viewfinder. The LCD is visibly much better than the Sony. I’m now eagerly awaiting my backordered Z7II along with some glass, which is another reason to seriously consider the Z-platform. The primes are stellar as are the f2.8 zooms, but even the f4 zooms are great quality at very reasonable prices. Nikon was slow at the game, but have created step-by-step an incredibly solid platform. Kudos to Nikon.
These guys shouldn’t be allowed to see the spec sheet before reviewing these cameras.
The Nikon cameras have superior optics in front of the EVF, which makes a bigger difference than pixel count.
They also miss the fact that the refresh rate on Sony EVFs drop significantly when the shutter is half pressed, while this doesn’t happen on the Nikon’s.
Like the Z6 II review - you missed the importance of the photo/video button. It makes hybrid work so much easier. It isn't on the latest Sony and Canon cameras. I really think it needs mentioning.
On my A7 III I have custom video modes set on custom 1 and 2, right next to manual on the dial so I can change very quickly between the 3, manual photos, 4K and 120fps 1080p videos much quicker than my Z6 II. The Z6 II switch is fine but I prefer the stronger custom controls without EVER having to use a menu (especially Sony’s ha ha).
Nikon don’t let me set anything I’d like to custom buttons only what they think that button should be and it’s means I end with buttons that are switched off. My A7 lets me change any button to anything.
(Obviously this is just my use case and opinion, it’s just the fact the Nikon’s 2 modes limit me more than the Sonys 3)
@@LaveaFirmis its a flick of a thumb on the Z dont even need to look up to turn a dial. 👍 see Taylor Jackson's A73 review.
It's maybe a bit easier than the control dial, but I don't think it's a huge thing as long as the settings stay separated, which they do on the A7S III
@@xWood4000 I shoot hybrid on stages its a huge difference in speed believe me. Ive used the A73 and worked next various people using them and they struggle to switch as fast. I change instantly, and believe me I have to to get the clips and photos I need. Im not even a technically quick thinking operator. I'm at the coal face on this one. If you watch Taylor Jackson on this topic he confirms what Im saying.
Its 2 clicks (my shutter is set to photo and video) 1 click to switch 2 shutter to take the shot/clip, all without taking my eye from the evf or off the back of the screen.
@@markshirley01 Yeah so its about the same then with the A7 for me. I don't look at the dial but its one click from photos to 4k video and two clicks from photos to 1080 120. My Z6 II is slightly slower because if I want to switch the FPS I've got to go into the menu for the Z6 so not so good (not aware of a way to speed it up). If I'm switching stills to 4k is virtually the same speed wise for me.
Granted out the box its way slower on the A7, it takes quite a bit of setting up to get the custom modes sorted when you first buy it, I never use the dedicates movie or S&Q modes on it. The Z6 out the box switching between the one movie made and stills is certainly better. I just wish I had the customisation on the Z6's buttons including changing the grid from quarters to the rule of thirds. Clearly its just me but I never want the grid in quarters, not sure why Nikon thought that was better to leave that out when my D500 has it.
Would it not make more sense to film this with the Z6 II?
I want Jordan to shoot an episode on film!
Maybe even BW.
@@СергейМогутов-ъ4д Lighthouse: DPReview TV Edition "Yer fond of me 35mm ain't ye? I seen it - yer fond of me 35mm! Say it! Say it. Say it!"
IMAX?
@@MMarin1983 Tried to watch that. Not my cup of tea. Schindler"s list is one of my all-time favorites though.
@@СергейМогутов-ъ4д No doubt it's not for everyone, but it certainly looked gorgeous. Almost like every shot was an old photograph from 19th century.
I recently upgraded from a D7200 to a Z7ii and am definitely enjoying my woodland photography shots much more with the resolution, colours, and dynamic range. It's also encouraged me to get back into video after an 8 year hiatus and I've been having a lot of fun shooting and cutting together family home videos.. My question is did you guys notice any practical differences if the Z6ii was any better at grabbing and keeping focus in really low light compared to the Z7ii when using eye-detect AF? Great video guys!
Dope Stalker reference man, I was immediately thinking that but still surprised to hear you say it
One of my favourite movies! There is so much captivating imagery in that film one can't help but see connections everywhere.
but it's pronounced "Stal Ker" ... well, that's how the Russians pronounce it ... outside of an English class ...
@@danleo6837 someone always gotta complain I guess
Gonna give a heads up to all watching this video. This is not a joke especially if you shoot weddings or studio work. This camera has the D850 sensor and it has the best colors of any modern nikon with OCF. please do not comment you shoot Raw all pros know what I’m talking about. Easier editing on the skin tones with mixed lighting. D850 one of the best in the market and now this camera will do the same! Love the colors here. I think may even rival Canons best.
Shoot a whole episode with noct 58 that'd be fun
@Photo Bunny iesh... so with 3-4 stacked ND filter :-D
PLZ review Nikon Z 50mm f1.2 S
vs Canon RF 50/1.2
@@willorwell yes
As others have written here. Viewfinder experience is not just digital resolution but OPTICS and refresh as well. Please consider this in your group test...
Given that the 4K60p crop is smaller on the Z7II compared to the Z6II and that both can now shoot raw video I'm not so sure the Z6II is the default choice for video out of the two cameras now... Yes the files from the Z6II are sharper due to the sensor sampling but by how much? Nobody seems to have done a proper comparison yet on this aspect (at 4k 30p).
Scrap that comment, the video comparison tool on the Z6II review actually shows the difference in sharpness between the Z6 and Z7, and the Z6 is definitely sharper by a noticeable margin.
Can’t believe you guys don’t already have more subscribers. Hands down the best reviewers on UA-cam.
The evf acctually looks better than the competition, I don't acctually know why. Maybe because it seems bigger, I really don't know
Better glass in front of the monitor
Their evf is the last thing they need to improve
I have used a 5 million dot EVF and the EVF in my Z7 stands up to it really well. I can't see much difference. I could see the pixels in the 2 million dot EVFs in some older cameras, but not in the Z6 and Z7 viewfinders, which are excellent. I think it is just number fixation. With the Nikon EVFs we are already at the point of diminishing returns.
Damn! Wanna see that D7000 review again! You got a sub.
In a imperfect world you photographers and reviews continue to want the perfect camera. Humans complain too much and everything. I bet this camera is just what you need
Yes! First reviewer on youtube that also want a tilting screen in portrait mode on the Z cameras. So it’s not only me. 5:02
I've been wishing that Sony would steal Fuji's flipout screen from the XT2/XT3. I can't count how many times I could have used it for ground-level portrait orientation shooting. Instead, I had to sit ninety degrees to my subject with the screen flipped 'upwards', which was very confusing for framing.
Winter is the only time of the year you can use the R6 safely ♨️
It's funny cause it's true
Canmore is my favourite too..amazing review guys...your channel is my Netflix...
Can see why that place is one of your favourite haunts, some absolutely gorgeous shots in this video. 👍
Fantastic review as usual! I am eagerly await the high resolution shoot-out, I appreciate how much work such a video requires! Thanks DPeview.
I wish it would occur to one of the camera manufacturers that is using dual card slots that they could use the faster card to clear the buffer and then back up the slower card from the faster card afterward so to minimize the time when the user cannot shoot again.
Hopefully y'all get to 300k and our vote would be the D7000. I loved my D7000 but not for video😂. Good luck.
Nikon D300s!
I've used DP Review and watched your videos for a long long time. Thanks for the contribution and good luck on 300k.
Waiting for mine in Michigan. Moving up from the D750! Shoot mostly landscapes and wildlife.
I'm already subscribed, but I want a special with Jordan crying on the floor while Chris yells at home Nikon in Japanese.
subbed for the tarkovsky shoutout, you are a true hero of the revolution chris
stalker and solaris in particular are 2 of my favorite movies ever
My z7ii is coming tomorrow and I can’t wait to get my hands on it!
I own the Z7ii and love it but the reason I love this camera are the lenses. Best lenses I have owned?
One realy important feature that nobody talks about, are the medium raw images sharp? Unlike on the d850 where my medium and low raw files are terrible in sharpness :( did the fixed that on the z7 II ?
Its important to me because i shoot alot of weddings and graduates,medum raw files whold greatly improve my workflow speed
@@aaloaalo If you don't need high res camera, why don't you use Z6ii? It has better low light AF and faster bursts...
@@СергейМогутов-ъ4д because i love this sensos and what it comes out of it, im not as much pleased with the 24 mp sensors from nikon as with this one,also doing studio and macro work,where i love my extra megapixels
@@aaloaalo It's IMO makes more sense just to down-sample them in post. This way you'll have all the resolution and details at the start of the process.It looks like NIkon can make those small RAWs the same way as video RAW - by line skipping or in some similar fashion. And I'm not sure that it can be done another way. This way some resolution is lost and therefore photos will be softer than Z6 files. Doesn't make much sense to me.
While you mentioned cameras, my suggestion for Jordan is trying different vintage lenses with interesting characteristics, maybe even possible some antique or x-ray lenses. I remember one video where guy mounted large format lens with bellows onto Sony a7s or something, the large format look for video was quite unique.
Mathieu Stern probably
@@techtt6213 nope, it's different guy
Thanks dpreview for these in depth videos
Just an amazing camera. It wasn't marketed for speed, but we know when the Z7 III comes out, they'll put that Expeed 7 in it. Game changer when Mark III is coming
That’s good that you put the videos in the top of your webpages
I've been waiting for this review.... Thank you
I switched from my D750 to a Z6 last month and honestly if you wanted to do sports and serious tracking I still feel like dslrs are king.
In the Nikon world, yes. The R5/6 and a9 are another story.
@@youknowwho9247 ,go home canon troll.
@@planetfun85 That's funny. I own a D850, D500 and tons of glass to go with them. If I was a Canon shooter I wouldn't give a rats behind about Nikon's consistent failure to deliver on the mirrorless front.
Hi, as per my observation, image quality of D810 is better than Z7 II. I used 70-200 f2.8 lens on both the bodies. F mount lens adapted on to Z mount with adapter. I strongly believe there is an image quality difference.
"I shot my daughter here over the Christmas season..."
-Chris Nichols, 2021
Tragic!
Happy New Year Chris and Jordan
I think, Nikon is going the right direction. It’s easy to say, just add this and that and than higher the price. I really think, that there’s a need for normal priced bodies. And this is also not cheap, it’s just a bit more affordable. When I think back, they asked 2000€ for my first Sony A7R, the RIII was 3200€ and an A7RIV started at 4000€, but I don’t see the prices for jobs rising that fast.
For an Canon R5 they want 4500€, what a crazy amount of money, just for a camera with 45mpix.
I think, Nikon shooters will be happy to pay „just“ 3300€ instead of 4500€.
this is often overlooked. especially now, when there are really nearly no jobs for photographers. at the moment it is more likely amateurs buy theses and then the price might be less important if you make your money with something else.
fingers crossed you can get the 300k subscribers. Camera I would suggest for shooting. Go with the first, the original, the Nikon D90. The first DSLR with video capabilities. Just watching Jordon crying would be worth the watch.
If subscribers goal is reached, make Jordan shoot with a older style GoPro and external audio recording 💥💥💥💪🏼. With bonus episode with “how it’s made” ☺️☺️
Good to see Nikon catching up. They now have a very solid system for landscape photography.
The Stalker film. What a weird, but brilliant film it is! Although I'll be honest, I only knew it existed because of the STALKER games. haha
Check Andrei Rublev movie also
I love the Stalker games series! I played them specifically because of the movie. Either way we both ended up getting to enjoy both!
Hi Chris and Jordan, i'd like to see next episodes filmed with the Nikon D 7000...😀🙃😉
I realllly wish each episode was shot on the camera that they are reviewing... I know its not always possible, But can still wish.
Whole episode on the Sony x3000.
Yeah, and make it your broken one! 😂😂😂
🤣🤣🤣🤣
The Fuji assassins are watching You
The last line helped push the decision as I am that old guy with the D750 needing to replace it lol
This channel deserves 1M+ subscribers
I hope Nikon doesn't put that stupid flip-out screen on their next cameras just because UA-camrs are crying about it. Most photographers don't want that. The UA-cam reviewers are so disconnected from the consumer, it's mindblowing.
Yep! It’s very annoying to hear them bitch about it every time. As a D850 user, I’ve never complained about not having one of those flippy-outty screens.
@@onthemoverealestatephotogr9655 They think every customer has a need to record themselves and make a vlog. 80% of my camera use is for photos, 20% for video, and I am always behind the screen, either recording things from my travels, or a birthday celebration, a family gathering. I never had any need to record myself and then look into a flip-out screen. It would actually bother me, if I needed the screen for certain types of photography, and it would flip on the side.
Great review. The consummate photography and videography reviewers on the internet today.
One amazing thing , ISO performance on the Z7ii …. IS FANTASTIC!!!!!
If I could subscribe to your channel 10000 times I would. You review cameras that no other camera reviewers will.
Looking forward to seeing the comparison video. You guys always have perfect timing 😁
I appreciate all your details gentlemen. Fine review with lots of great points of the features ofg the new Nikon Z7II, in a fairly brief review. As always, bravo! 👏 📸 🙏
Ok subscribed. Panasonic TZ1! I'm sure Jordan can still work his magic.
Great camera and review but I am still not switching from my D850!
I’m never giving up my D850!
Lots of people are selling their D850s after trying a Z, so it's a good time to pick up a used one.
@@onthemoverealestatephotogr9655
If you have a D850 you don't need the Z7 anyway I guess.
@@mrsusan893 for sure. I think a lot of people are too concerned with having the latest and greatest instead of actually getting out there to take photos...
In terms of EVF, I found that the one in the Z6 (and therefore the Z6II, Z7 and Z7II) was the nicest I have used, regardless of the pixel count. It is just nicer to the eye.
Depends on what else you've used. It's certainly not as nice as the one in the Panasonics and the R5.
@@youknowwho9247 I've used Panasonics but never an R5. It is possible that one is better, but then again it is significantly more expensive.
@@praetorian65 It is, but it's also a much better camera overall than the Z7 II. Whether an individual photographer needs the advantages like faster shooting, better af, better IBIS and so on is another matter of course. Someone who's purely a landscape shooter would probably prefer the Nikon.
freeze at 37 seconds. All you need to see. ua-cam.com/video/EG9FYeOay-Q/v-deo.html Nikon colors destroy the canon and Sony right out of the camera. Photographer or videographers can definitely appreciate beautiful colors and reduction in post. Dual processors have a huge upside for firmware upgrade via SnapBridge vs need for computer. DxoMark scored the Canon R5 sensor at 95 and the Z7 at 99. I’ll take that over EVF and front facing screen all day long. Rent both and I’m betting you will find the Z7 ii is every bit of the camera for 99% of users for less money and better glass. If you need 8k (be it limited for overheating) get the canon. Need 20 FPS, get the canon or Z6 ii gets pretty close
@@danharris2253 Converting Canon or Sony colours to Nikon colours takes literally one second in post, or zero if you apply the adjustment during import. Forget about "colour science" , it's nonsense. As far as dual processors go - whether you've got one or two isn't a big deal, the question is how powerful they are, and how efficient the software is. As it stands, Nikon would have to make huge improvements in firmware to match Canon and Sony. There's no reason to believe those two aren't going to improve through updates as well. Making the fact that Nikon is starting from behind into a positive is just a way of lying to yourself. Then there's the DxOMark scores - take a look at where the differences come from. Also take a look at the measurements that photons-to-photos got. There's virtually no difference in image quality between the Z7 II, the a7r IV and the R5, except for the Sony's higher resolution.
I don't know why Nikon shooters have become the new Pentaxians. There's no reason to be so emotionally involved here. I'm a long time Nikon shooter, and still it's obvious that as of January 2021, the Z series cameras are noticeably lagging behind the competition from Sony and Canon. We can hope that Nikon leapfrogs them in the future, but to claim that they hold the pole position right now is simply, objectively false.
Why can’t the companies develop software so the fast card captures them as shot and slowly copies the other card over time?
That's not a solution of the problem and a terrible idea to begin with. Not a solution because the copying process would take a lot of processing power and potentially buffer capacity, depending on how it's implemented. Not a good idea because if the first write gets corrupted at any point in the process, the copy to the second card will also be corrupt. In other words a faulty primary card would cause a good secondary card to only contain bad files.
@@youknowwho9247 why do you have to be so mean? I’m just asking a question. You should think about your life’s choices and think about how Christ can make more meaning in your life.
@@robertleidner9703 I was perfectly matter-of-factly there. If you think that was a mean comment, the internet really isn't the place for you. Also, did you notice that you just responded to a purely technical answer to your question with an implied personal insult? I suggest checking your own attitude before attacking others.
In the interest of not "being mean" again I'll not dive into the nod to first century fairytales in your post too deeply. Just a personal opinion: Religious superstitions really don't add anything to this discussion, so just check them at the door, would you?
While those camera choices are certainly amusing, I'd love to see Jordan try out the newer iPhone's and try to make professional videos with them. I think they are a significant enough improvement over his current XR to justify trying out.
No one want use iphones to video. There is better stuff to that think. Hohhoiiiiii... i phone to this iphone tho that.... iphone is out now! Overpriced hipster shit.
Wait, have him shoot on an iPhone 4s.
I can't just be cruel and suggest the Nikon D90. So the Alexa Mini LF would be a lovely choice.
Shooting a Nikon review using a Canon. But always good to see a great review.
Glorious scenes on this shoot!
Nikon D7000 is my first DSLR, it would be fun to see a video shot on it.
WAIT!!! I’m a happy Nikon D7000 user. I would love to see some episodes talking about the D7k. It would be a great homage to all those great DigitalrevTV Kai Wong videos with what became the painted pink D7000.
Your videos are just getting better all the time! Thank you again for showing off the Nikon Z7II. With the Z9 now coming, what a wait for the D850 replacement. Could it be the second wonder camera announced by Nikon?
Hey,
Thx for the awesome video! Really like your reviews and your style of doing it!
What's about the autofocus compared to the Z6ii? Is it as fast as the Z6ii? Or are they at the same level now?
Regards
Stefan
Good ol Canmore! I spent my middle school and highschool there!
Your reviews are always enjoyable, love you guys! I wish you focused more on the hybrid/video side. Mentioning and maybe testing out things like external video raw and resolution/ pixel binning against the little sister. Also we want to see more of that Jordan Drake's face 😜 Oh, before i forget, I wish Jordan to shoot 4 episodes on 16mm film!
I would like to see a video on the Nikon d3000
Thank you for showing me one of the greatest movies ever made. I watched Stalker today.
thanks for the raw files, I will be able to test the dynamics at 64 iso and the noise at 6400 iso with different software. I have a Z6 and I am very interested in the Z7 II
Very nice as always. I'm going to buy one this year.
I want to see Jordan shoot on the Panasonic GH2 so I can lie to myself that I’m using up-to-date technology. 😂
I would love to see my favorite camera being used too
The gh2 will always be up-to-date to me
Good review. Great to know Pros and Cons clear & unbiased 👍
Still rocking a D750? I still use a d5200 or a d300s. (Way past due to upgrade). Trying to decide between z6ii and z7ii. Thank you for posting!
8:45 - about video sharpness. I don't shoot video, let alone raw, but read elsewhere that "raw" video from a Z camera might have different levels of sharpening applied depending on some profile setting. I had - naively - assumed that profile settings did not impact "raw" but in video there is no real native raw, apparently. Set to a "flat" or "neutral" profile, there was less sharpening and this was done in post by that writer.
3.6 million dots not enough? At the magnification level you present to your eye? You may have 120 million rods and cones in your eyes, but these are partially wired in the retina in a way that leaves you with extremely lossy compression and a maximum resolution of 1/6th. We can compare numbers, and be faithful at that, but we also have to look at validity and relevance. Have you heard of that man who could not swim that tried to cross a river with an average depth of 2 feet?
He drowned.
I agree. I don't see the point in having more dots on an evf. Their evf is extremely sharp and eyes can only handle 30 fps anyway. If Nikon told everyone it had 20 mil dot evf at 240 fps no one would notice the difference.
Its always like "Welcome back DPReviewvevevers". xD
I'm not the only that finds that a bit awkward! 😆
SOMEONE IS AWAKE !! Anderi Tavkorvski reference ,commendable education !😀
I got it- A Ricoh GR III. I remember how much he raved about it in the review!!!
Chris: "Now Jordan will talk about the video,"
Jordan: "No, I'm good!"
..Joe
Thank you for this great review !!!!! I will be switching from my D7500 to this Z7 ii camera , and I´m really exited !!!!!
Just save some money and go up to the Z9..the focusing of the z7ii still has hiccups..should have waited for the Z9😕
Everyone should subscribe! Easily my 2 favorite reviewers on UA-cam.
Good review; just a note, subject tracking isn't the mode to use for sports and action - use Auto Area AF, Wide, and Dynamic depending on the situation.
That does not make any sense. Not only is shooting moving subjects the entire and only purpose of the subject tracking mode, having it be unusable for those purposes is also a step back from 3D tracking in Nikon's four year old DSLRs. Of course the *tracking* mode is meant to *track* moving subjects - the implementation is just a failure.
1:40 Great Stalker plug! Here here! And then of course: Andrei Rublev...
Hello Chris and Jordan , Happy New year to the great DPReview team that I enjoy a lot following here on UA-cam !!
I can't wait the next week video comparison of the top brand cameras ! yes !.
i wish you guys reach up to 300 000 subscriptions.
One Question : Why Chris still pronounce N"i"kon instead of Neekôn/ ? hèé ??
I hope lens (Sigma or Tamron etc...) will open soon on Nikon z mount, You guys can probably get more infos on this announcement !! ? thanks
As for the EVF. I completely get your point. But Ironically I think that a better EVF could make a camera less usefull for me. I say ironically because I have bad eyesight, so the quality of the EVF is extremely important. But higher resolution could mean a 'refinement' in the styling of the menu or in the implementation of contrast detection that wouldn't work for me. Just sayin', in case Nikon is reading these comments. :-) In general, but certainly in case of the EVF, I'm extremely happy with my original Z.
i had a Canon t2I. And it was a GREAT camera until it died. shoot episodes with DJI Pocket 2. I think Jordan will be pleased given its size, price, and best stabilization
This made me subscribe to the channel. Hope we get that 300k subs.
I feel like there's got to be a 60Mp Z8 coming, with the new Sony sensor in it, but when?
I want the staff for great content over the years.
Thank you. For the info. Thinking of getting 7ii or z8
Cool t shirt Jordan! Stillwater is just up the road from me
The lower native ISO sos very important.
Maybe Jordan can find the granddaddy of Video capable DSLR cameras. The one that started it all the Nikon D90. And the one that followed but with a FF sensor the Canon 5D. I think I got the names right it has been a long time.
I do have a Nikon D7000 , which only shoots 1080 @ 24fps, and it does look pretty good. I'm gonna sell it soon to upgrade to a Sony.
I never used my D7000 for video. I will need to test its 1080 against my A7S3.😃
I kinda want Jordan to shoot a whole episode on a film camera. But one dating to the 1940's or 50's haha
About the only beneficial feature added was 4K 60p internal.
Dual cards, eye AF and more fps was irrelevant for what it was already.
Hopefully it has better battery efficiency and bitrates for video but I'm pretty sure it's still the same. Nikon tends to give you just what you need, nothing extra.
would be fun to see jordan shoot an episode on a pentax