How Dangerous Is Indonesia For Women? [Street Interview] | ASIAN BOSS
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- Опубліковано 21 сер 2024
- A recent study has found that Indonesia is the second-most dangerous country for women in the Asia Pacific region. A nationwide survey commissioned by the Women’s Empowerment and Child Protection Ministry found that one in three women in Indonesia suffered violence in their lifetime. But is this true for the average Indonesian women? We hit the streets of Jakarta to find out.
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I think most men in Indonesia still have no idea that catcalling is also a form of sexual harassment
Mostly they do it for fun.
"That was just a joke!!!" "play hard to get ya..cuih" 😑 and then ngamok.
yep sadfully
Yeah, most of them will still claimed it as harmless
Only old and uneducated generation, younger boys have high pride to do it.
"As long as she take care of herself, it's pretty safe."
Easy for you to say, Sir.
I dont think the guy has any idea about what he said in the entire video
Agree. His level of ignorance frustating me
Whoever you are, if you take care of yourself, it'll be safer for you. My friends and I take care of ourselves (we avoid dangerous and risky places, we don't use public transportations alone/with someone we don't really trust, we don't wear revealing outfits unless the event and place is suitable for it, we ask our parents/family to pick us up/accompany us, etc), it is pretty safe. If you don't take care of yourself and your belongings, it won't be as safe, no matter your gender (and it doesn't always have to be sexual related crimes). It's just common sense : the more you take care of yourself (by being careful, etc), the safer it'll be for you (doesn't eliminate danger tho).
So tell me what the guy in the video should have said then? Are you positive you wouldn't say something to protect yourself either? Imagine you actually had a reputation, a family and a job/career worth protecting? And also, what evidence would you bring to the table had it been you in the video that is more compelling? Something you can't refute, like statistics. Please reconsider, public denigration is not as light as you think. He had a pause before answering that, pretty sure he was thinking of something.
@@margerymartin3313 if all people just have the same tought as you, world would be much harder to live. Don't ask me why, or even argue, empathy is something precious, not everyone can have it. Enjoy your day, while you can.
Pemerintah dan guru-guru terlalu fokus untuk mengajari perempuan cara agar tidak dilecehkan, sampai lupa bahwa laki-laki lebih membutuhkan edukasi cara agar tidak melecehkan.
Waw
@@pakyurzifnkka7548 gue cowok, dipikir² benar juga, apa yg waw
@@morethanspaceinfo5239 enggak tau, cuma bilang waw aja.
Pendapat gua tentang video di atas itu, setutup-tutupnya perempuan menutup aurat, tidak bisa mengubah bahwa laki-laki sange ketika melihat tubuh perempuan.
Menurut ku, laki-laki indo memang sangean, ya adasih yang enggak, di tutup auratnya aja sange, apalagi enggak pake hijab dan celana sampai lutut.
Tambah sange😂😂😂
Benar, selain mengajari wanita untuk menutup aurot, kita jg harus mengajari pria untuk menundukkan pandangan. Karena wanita itu jgnkan dicatcall, diliatin terus menerus saja risih.. Itu yg mungkin bbrp pria gk sadar bahwa mereka sedang melakukan sexual harassment, walaupun tdk separah harassment yg selama ini kt definisikan sebagai sexual harassment.
@@mantannasiuduk hahahaha liat aja di tiktok gimana cweknya wkwk
I remember when I visited Indonesia with my family the first time. My mom is from Indonesia and I remember how we were walking down a street. An old guy in a car stopped next to us and said that I‘m pretty and asked my mom if he could marry me. Since I can’t understand Bahasa I asked my mom what he said. When she translated me what he said, I felt so uncomfortable. I was 10 years old at this time. Now I‘m 29 years old and even now I would never go out alone in Indonesia. I always have my family with me.
if i were u i wouldn't even bother to think about coming back here again lmfao
omg that was horrible! btw same, i'm indo, and some old man once asked me to marry them when i was only 11... and that traumatized me alot and now i rarely go outside, i'm 19 now.
@@6idle4ever49 same...
I feel sorry for you:(
@@6idle4ever49 I still love Indonesia. No way I would never come back. ^^
The guy is like "Indonesia is very safe for girls... but they should never go out at night or it's dangerous." Which is it dude?
Lol I think it's because they have a bunch of hypocrite with 2 faces, but they'll show their true nature at night
@@athelane maybe you should use that high intellect of yours and not look for trouble at night, especially in a country like Indonsian
@@alphaweeb5195 so going out at night equates looking for trouble in indonesia? Wow i didn't know it is that unsafe here.
@@athelane you got the point, quiet paradox isn't it
@@juch3 maybe its because you don't have enough IQ to see outside of your safe western bubble?🤔
Btw going out does not = look for trouble.
Going out half naked + branded purse = begging for trouble.
*"If we, girls, speak up, we will be the ones getting blamed."*
smile rin Ikr...
Made me cry on the inside.
Though speak up is the right choice dear, better than you leave them alone. Especially about catcalling cases, my experience, if we speak up in those times, the culprit actually become stop catcalling us, and will think twice when they want to catcalling other girls too. Because they feel ashamed, like caught red handed.
I agree with that statement
Padahal cewek selalu benar
"if she can look out for herself"
Boi, everyone has to try to look out for everybody. As a teenage girl, i don't like the situation on this topic in Indonesia. Indonesia is a country of victim blaming. They either say "your dress is too short" "you're the one who's provoking him" "maybe because of how much skin you show". In Indonesia people get mocked for being sexually assaulted, but they rarely mocked the predators. Indonesia's legislative government aka DPR said that the law we are fighting for (the rupks / the law made to make it easier to punish the perpetrators) are "liberal" "feminist" and "encouraging prostitution" when what the people actually wanted is to make the victims safer, make it easier to punish the perpetrators, and to bring justice to the victims.
Me as an Indonesian, I truly am disappointed at how the government failed to protect the most vulnerable ones, women and children. I certaintly hope that in the near future, there will be a law set in place to make sexual assault or any other assault easier to punish.
So what?
Harassment already a crime. Ehat more? Tell squirrel to stop stealing?
Wait... You are wrong of you think Indonesian not blame the predator. Most of sexual predator almost died because people want to kill them, even in prison there is no one care with them, there is no good place for the predator
You guys have a looong way to go.
I suppose most of the blokes there have got a principle called "Girls are our toys." Lmfao
But i'm serious, and i have to say, ay y'all Indonesian gals, you have my pity
You're exaggerate AF...all Indonesian hate sexual predator too...if there is no law for killing sexual predator i bet many people kill them already
Remember men, lower your gaze and lower your sexual thoughts on women.
Instinct always there, civilization is a set ofway of life including modesty
@@daturajasulaiman7892 yes instinct will always be there for individual survival, but our brain are more developed than other animals and we can have self control for social interactions.
@@daturajasulaiman7892 lol you’re one of the guys who catcalls
Yes it's from the holy Qur'an ✨
Nah, that's it. Also, it doesn't meant that me as a man, and you too, are gay just because of that.
"As long as she take care of herself, it's pretty safe"
This is why in indonesia, girls afraid to speak up because they'd know that they're the one who getting blamed for.
YEAH, ISLAM IS ABOUT PEACE AND RESPECT.
LOL.
Victim blaming at its finest.
@@dfgfddffd4297 Islam is perfect, but muslim not, my friend
@@dfgfddffd4297 you comment in every corner of video.
@@dfgfddffd4297 don't Blame the religion. Blame the poeple.
Funny how the word 'safe' was only told by men.
karena kebanyakan laki kadang gak liat/sadar perspektif nya perempuan
Kalau semua mata punya dua prespektif dimana batasan salah dan benar?
@@kryowl tidak ada batasan. dalam hidup kita harus pandang perspektif satu sama lain agar bisa memahami apa yg dialaminya dan akhirnya kita bisa menemukan jalan keluarnya
*dimana yang di dunia nyata kayaknya mustahil jika setiap orang mandang kayak gini*
ikr
@@dikaakbar4226 jadi kalau seorang criminal berbuat sesuatu perbuatan jahat tapi bagi dia itu adalah benar maka kita harus mengatakan bahwa itu benar? Jika anda mengatakan bahwa tidak ada batasan antara benar dan salah maka semua kesalahan hanyalah sebuah pembenaran atas sesuatu perbuatan
The men are acting like stereotypes. I’m kinda shocked. Apparently women need to be warrior monks of high virtue or they’re bringing it upon themselves. How insane.
Man and women have and equal obligation. Man need control themself and women maybe need use modest clothes.
Hi. Peace be upon you
Life is unpredictable and fragile...it's ok to worry cuz as humans we don't live in a perfect, secured society.
Have u thought about whether u go 2 heaven or hell after this life? Cuz life is short & fragile. Look at how many peeps die each day...but there's hope...
Fortunately there's a way to not suffer, not be in danger, not be poor, not get hurt, not have to work in vain, not have to feel any kind of negative vibe, and not to get tired anymore.
Imagine you will be invincible, immortal, and holy with a new, upgraded body. Imagine everyone around you will be the same as you. Imagine everyone will respect each other. Isn't that a delightful thought? It's true you or anyone can have such a perfect, eternal life.
All you got to do is to accept Jesus Christ 🙏 as your Savior! Once you do, He will let you into heaven during your day when you finally see Him!
"If we, girls, speak up. We will be the ones getting blamed"
That is right until now
Yeah
Yang ngelecehin siapa yang disalahin siapa 😌 yang tertutup aja masih aja lho dilecehin heran
Dalam hal pergaulan bebas, memang kenyataan yg dirugikan cewek. Jadi hati2 dalam bergaul. Kalau ada pelecehan, langsung laporin aja, asal bukan pacaran tapi udah hubungan ngak sah.
@Hasan Maulana Achmad 09 masalah psikologi, cewek juga ada yg kalau diacuhkan justru merasa harga dirinya meronta. Maunya di perhatikan banyak cowok. Haloo., cowok perhatikan cewek itu biasa pakai nafsu lhoo....
@Hasan Maulana Achmad 09 semua hal ada tujuannya, sama juga dengan nafsu. Tujuan nafsu tuh biar manusia berketurunan.
Kalau cewek bagi society kita itu sesuatu yg dijaga, soalnya cewek rapuh dibanding cowok, pasti ujungnya yg dirugikan itu cewek, jadi cewek juga harus sadar itu. Jangan mau gampang dibohongi sm rayuan cowok. Langsung aja bilang "kalau serius, datang aja kerumah lamar"
"If she can look out for herself, I think it's pretty safe"
Safety shouldn't be based on how good women look out for themselves. it's the environment around them that must be improved to ensure safety for everyone.
ikr i was baffled with what he said
The guys there are.. yeah .. 😂
Ikr. His statement is somewhat disturbing for me
That means it a common things for them, if they don't think that way they can't survive the harsh environment there. So the brain is tricking them to think it's okay when it's not
he means at least you guys know how to defend yourself, survival skill such as being deceitfully tricking these guys, or practicing martial arts. You can't expect people to always help you right😑Knowing Indonesia has a very huge population, of course the solid percentation of rape case or etc likely more bound to happen, that's why have some sense to hinder yourself from these guys.
Sometimes indonesian people don't realize that inappropriate comment and jokes is also a form of harassment, especially in a boss employee setting where women can't speak up at all in this patriarchal country
Define what borderline 'inappropriate' means. I mean, I know some extreme examples. But could you please tell me what are just 'okay' to say about a woman, just out of curiosity?
@@margerymartin3313 in my country some kind of "well intended" advice such as "if you use that kind of exposing clothes you can be seen as a easy woman", can be said in public without anyone thinking that it's actually inappropriate and kind of degrading. If someone with power said that kind of comment people will deemed it okay to say and sometimes need to be said for the receiver own goodness
@@nadiacahya5318 mbak cantik bgt Subhanallah
I used to work in a ship and most of my bosses were Indonesian I experienced that in first hand. It was everyday “omg you are so beautiful lets have a drink” “wow you look so good in this working pants” I like to receive compliments but when its with that pervert look its just disgusting (plus I was the youngest crew on board and was know for that I was 18 and they all knew my age because of that status and I do date older man but not as old as my dad and the range of the age of them were over my dad!) I even remember I actually had a Filipino boyfriend in the ship and when everybody knew I was dating him they stopped talking to me and then he had to disembark and it start all over again! I eventually disembark because the ship life its horrible and because of too many looks that was making my heart like a rock and I didnt want to be ugly and full of range inside me. All I could think all day at work was “how do I respond all the comments” and it consumed in so many ways that I stopped to be nice with everybody and it break my heart I felt very angry all the time and like I had to be stupid with every Indonesian otherwise they would make the harassment (until today I cant admit its harassment even tho I know it is)
The worst experience in my life!
@@filmsbymonique.9959 well you should watch video japanese boss sexual harassement. It is more physical and if you speak up usually you get fired
It's sad how even from women, they say to prevent sexual assault or any other form of sexual violence is to bring a taser, pepper spray, learn basic karate, etc. Nobody should need those kinds of extra protection or security just to feel safe for going around the city. Men (sexual violence goes for everyone but dominantly women) should be the ones that are taught to respect --> the best way to prevent any sexual violence.
Agreed, but come on yo did you really need to call us a separate species?
You're right but, it's like there is a tiger in front of you, and instead avoiding it or bring a gun to protect yourself, you walked next to it and said "You shouldnt be like this. Someone has to teach you to not eat me" and then you got eaten. The "Tigers" can be taught to control themselves, and right, it is the best way to prevent the tigers to eat people. But it will take too much time and too much people.
@@randomblackpp2578 I think using 'tigers' as a metaphor isn't the correct idea or way. Tigers are MEANT to be wild and aggressive, it's their nature. However, men, just like any other human being, should be AT LEAST have some human decency. Of course they would be flawed just like everyone else, but right now, men are seen more of a perpetrator than another human being which is scary enough and it shouldn't even be normalised. You say that it takes too much time and too *many* people to change. Right it does. So let's start now so our future generations doesn't have to repeat that statement.
@@keneishacm2122 Agree!
That's why i learn karate,
Cewek:"tutup auratmu!"
Cowok:"apa itu menjaga pandangan? Aku gatau"
Betul sponge 👍
@@pakyurzifnkka7548 라い싸 びま
@Я красивый Kalau cewek mah menurutku cuman tau Tutup aurat dari Dada sampai paha (kebanyakan)
Format penulisannya napa kek dialog njir
@@baboey2020 dari setengah dada ampe mmk
how to fix it?? Educate your sons on how to behave stop telling girls to be aware of their situations etc
Yes, I agree on educating sons on how to behave. But we certainly still need to teach the daughters to be careful of surrounding and clothing. Men have higher natural tendency for female body, it's a fact.
Muhammad Hazim That shouldn’t be the case. Instead of shaming girls for their bodies, teach boys that girls are not sexual objects. So what, we going to tell even young girls to cover up. In the first place, men’s eyes should not even be on young girls. I know it’s a hard thing to change, but it has to start somewhere.
@@muhammadhazim1058 sorry not agree with teaching daughters to be careful of surounding and what they wear. Learn to respect is much important. Based on research rapers criminal doesn't have any tendency to act based on the clothes, it just their desire, so if man can not control themselves because of A CLOTH it's just an EXCUSE. how could u just have sex with everyone without preference, isn't it the same with animal? Could u have feelings to do it even with someone u don't like?
@@muhammadhazim1058 hahaha.. Komenmu bikin malu aja..
@@soapy2587 I don't agree with his point about clothes but i do agree with his point about surroundings, if i as a man am told that a certain part of town is dangerous and i go there anyway at night on my own and get jumped or mugged then it's partially my own fault for throwing caution to the wind, and no system is perfect, people need a contingency plan because there will always be bad people who will ignore good conduct and the law in societies so being aware of your surroundings (not wearing headphones, taking well populated route instead of back alleys etc) is still important, ultimately nobody can keep you safe apart from yourself.
ofc it's pretty safe for men sir :), but we already look out for ourselves and men still being disrespectful to us
The only way for women to feel safe in public space is to look like a guy.
really? all the guys act like that?
@@calyco2381 but then people will assume they are lesbian just because they have short haircut
@@mr-vb3id not all guys ofc, but no women catcalling other women in public
Vio na
no not really as long as you have boobs and a vagina you are at a risk of getting sexually harassed
"Wanita yg seharusnya menjaga dirinya"
Hellooo itu ada yg pakaiannya udh sopan, tetep aj di harassed. what do u expect?
avoid shady streets
@@tegesnripendra9473 bruh, even in the middle of the day, girls still got catcalled
@@sharonsn1530 I know that, so avoid shady streets
Pelecehan seksual ini masalah serius. Saya setuju, tapi saya ngak menengerti kenapa Indonesia bisa jadi no2 paling parah di Asia.??
Ada yg bisa jelaskan??
Soalnya saya ngak percaya studi, di Asia ada berapa banyak negara.
@@AbdulMajid-fg3ko mungkin di sini sex education rata2 blm d ajarin d sklh sejak sd. trs rata2 yg catcall itu ngira kalo itu pujian bukan harrasment.
Kalo soal kekerasan, krna kebanyakan pria di indonesia merasa derajatnya lebih tinggi dari wanita. Kebanyakan dari mereka masih memegang teguh prinsip itu, jadi timbul sikap kurangnya menghargai wanita. Padahal didalam hidup, saling menghargain satu sama lain itu udah hal yg mutlak tanpa memandang gender atau apapun. Ini pendapat pribadi saya 🙏
sepemikiran
ajarannya goblok dan siapa yang ngajarin itu? yaa.. mungkin youtuber goblok contohnya bilang pank pink pank pink, ngen, dll
Pelecehan seksual ini masalah serius. Saya setuju, tapi saya ngak menengerti kenapa Indonesia bisa jadi no2 paling parah di Asia.??
Ada yg bisa jelaskan??
Soalnya saya ngak percaya studi, di Asia ada berapa banyak negara.
@@AbdulMajid-fg3ko seharusnya pakai hukum islam tapi orang islam itu sendiri penakut nggk kaya di arab saudi pantes kaya raya
@@Leon-dx4jc apa yaa kawan, saya kurang mengerti...
Me as Indonesian women: YES. Almost everyday I got catcalled by random guys and it's not even night. Today I got catcalled by an old man and it's when the sun is on the top of my head.
Can't you like report those people to the police or something? Maybe even go slap the daylights out of them. That's how these assholes will learn. Whatever you don't let them intimidate you, ever, because they are the ones doing wrong, they are the ones who should be scared.
@@alizaidi2743 sometimes i would speak up by saying "why you called me like that" or show my emotion but they usually take it as a joke and it's hurt my feeling more and more
@Intensive Purposes you're telling me that a man beating and killing a woman is not illegal? Seriously?
Beauty
Ali Zaidi even if we report them to police. No one will care. Catcalling is very common in this country. Even they said that we’re being too serious, or have no humor. 😒
That man using "women should take care of themselves" is the same thing as justifyng to sexual harrasment like as long as the women can taking care of herself its okay for the environment to do so .. this world need to be a comfort and safe place for anyone, so the "taking care of oneselves" should not be a solution to any of those problem
Then WHAT U EXPECT FOR SOCIETY TO DO?? KILLING THOSE CRIMINALS? EDUCATE THOSE CRIMINALS? YOUR LOGIC IS BAD GURL. PUNISHING CRIMINALS IS POLICE JOB, NOT CIVIL SERVANTS LIKE US
@@armandika182 you gotta be kidding me. I swear you must be 10 or something.
@@shaccrheia4842 I think u should be 10 or something coz u cant see the reality. All people demand an ideal social system, but u know not all system is perfect. What u expect then?
@@armandika182 "I have no problem with all these issues that don't even affect me and so should everyone. problems? you can't solve them. that's just the way it is, it's the reality"
Thank god not everyone is like you or else nothing would ever move forward.
lol if you don't even care about these issues then just stfu. I can't see why anyone would be threatened by these people who want to change for the better unless they were closeted rapists themselves.
@@shaccrheia4842 U dont get it kid. I am very opened about change. But, what is real action for that??? What is the action to fix thing up? none. All of you just cry n feel as a victim everytime. I am not sexist Kid, If u want change. Give ur action i'll support you. If u just cry and comment as a victim like this, it doesnt make any change. Coz all the way the feminist do is total nonsense right now, No action,
I used to date an Indo guy and the more I found out about what he believed the more turned off I was. Ultimately he ended up cheating on me so things ended. But he believed that women were only leaders when it came to the household, that it was the women's responsibility to be modest and cover up, and that men's brains were "more perfect" than women's. The worst was that he believed it's okay for men to marry girls as long as they've reached menstrual age. When I questioned him further about this he said he wouldn't personally do it since he was attracted to older women, but that it was acceptable there.
He even once joked about rape and I got really mad, which shocked him. To him it was normal to joke about such things. He never made that kind of joke again, and he actually admitted that he found me intelligent so my brain couldn't be less perfect, but it's just the way he was brought up. He had all these backwards beliefs, but when I actually drilled him he couldn't justify those beliefs. He said I made him feel stupid cause he was unable to answer me.
I just feel sad that the girls and boys in that society are being raised to think a certain way. It's so backwards.
Thats his problem. He has to educate himselves properly. Your bf dosent represent the whole Indonesian mem
@@sohailnoob Did I say my ex represented all indonesian men? My point was that he was raised to believe these things (in this case by his dad and his older friends at his mosque). Nowhere in my comment did I say all indonesian men are like him.
@@silverysnowfox yes u did. Read your last line again. U were talking about a way "they were being grown up in that society".
@Luna Lala who told you? Are you from Indonesia. How are just judging a whole country based on a small survey & a fully edited video about peoples opinions.
@@sohailnoob in my head when I was writing that, I was referring to where my ex grew up. A specific part of indo. Because my other indo friends have also told me that area is more religious than others. But I dont really have to explain myself to a random guy on the internet, so kindly move on/ I'll stop responding
Intinya kualitas SDM kita masih primitif, ini yang perlu diubah..
kasus catcalling ini tampak dibiarkan gitu aja mulai dari Om2 sampai remaja bahkan anak kecil juga ngelakuin.
Sex education: "apaan itu ngajarin anak sex bebas?!"
Kejadian pemerkosaan/hamil diluar nikah: "salah siapa dandan seksi/kawinin aja ama pemerkosa nya"
It's not as much safety as it's the mindset of the people that is skewed heavily by dogmas
Faizal Nur Ajiz ikr m8, your comment should deserve more likes
wtf are you talking about? she didn't said teach children for free sex. sex education is so diffrent than free sex, this people deserve to put in jail.
padahal kalau gue tanya ke temen temne gue, jawabanyya selalu milih kabur dari rumah
Cara pemikiran seperti itu sama saja sudah melampaui batasan dari segala macam kepercayaan yang ada di muka bumi 😠
@@pdarau3337 did you even see the quotation marks? This person was quoting people's reaction about sex education. Learn English before commenting.
Sebernarnya cara paling efektif supaya perempuan nyaman hidup di indonesia, adalah perempuan dan laki-laki harus saling menghormati. Seperti CATCALLING buat yang belum tau.. CATCALLING itu misalnya ada laki-laki yang katakanlah lagi duduk-duduk trs manggil" perempuan yang lewat seperti 'sstt... mbak" mau kmn?' Atau 'cewek.. sst...' 😡 (risih gua, langsung liatin aja tuh orng). Kalau di indonesia kebanyakan orng blm tau bahwa tindakan itu juga merupakan pelecehan, yg lewat perkataan. Jadi tindakan kyk gitu TIDAK WAJAR, TIDAK PANTAS, TIDAK SOPAN. Jadi bukan hanya perempuan yang harus hati-hati. Tapi LAKI-LAKI juga harus tau cara MENGHORMATI PEREMPUAN. CATCALLING ITU TIDAK WAJAR👎👎👎.
setuju 👍
Bener banget. Udh pake baju tertutup dan longgar juga ttp aja di catcall. Murni otak lakinya yg sakit ini mah
Dan merupakan pelecehan seksual
Btw sekarang cowo yg grepe sama nunjukin anunya juga banyak skrg, makanya kalo mau keluar nonton film malem takut kalo apes ketemu cowo macem gitu (gw pernah jadi korbannya btw sampe skrg masih takut-_-)
parahnya lagi... ada aja cowok yang membiarkan / merelakan istrinya di godain..... "asalkan gak dipegang".
Gak logis... catcalling jelas pelecehan dan dia terima aja... =_= dia sangka istrinya seneng / terima digodain? (istrinya bestfriend aku). Nah ini, harusnya cowoknya juga sadar! Kalau teman aku alias istri dia itu dilecehkan.
"Hello! You are super cute and i like you"
Me to a cat
*catcalling*
ok.
Wheeze
"There are people here that piss me off, but there are good people too. Across the ocean, inside the walls.. They're same"
-Eren
Everywhere i go, i will always see eren comments 😭
I hate it when people blaming the victims of sexual harasment
And yes..there are lot of cases this happened. 😡
Some people just too stupid!
Chill, I got you there
Ahhh, i still remember your train of comment with a selfclaim lgbtq+ expert.
Ppfftt.. You again..
Vio na hm? Please elaborate, I want to know what you mean🤔
I mean telling a woman to look out for herself isn't really victim blaming.
“if she can look out for herself,I think it’s pretty safe”
funny. I was 14 when I first got catcalled. I was wearing my friday school uniform (a very long and baggy shirt+skirt completed with a hijab)
my friend and I were 15. I was walking to a minimart with my friend. what were we wearing? our baggy and long school uniforms.
I also witnessed my hijabi friend getting catcalled. she was wearing a p.e uniform thats not even tight.
and recently,I got catcalled while I was just walking at the park,wearing knee length basketball shorts and a baggy tee shirt.
but sure,it’s always women’s fault.
Look at the beard = paternalistik
For those of you who are saying "women still gets all the blame even in situations like this", keep in mind that Indonesia is a Muslim majority country, and most of its rules are based of the teachings of Islam. Islam does require women to have a company when going outside that could be considered "dangerous" or "uncomfortable". This doesn't mean that I DEFEND the men who sexually harrass the women, in no way I support that kind of action, but you have to remember that it is the nature of men to go outside and wander. Do you expect [all] men to stay indoors just so women could go outside freely ?
DigBloopers no. But shouldn’t men respect women?
@@audreykirsten9511 yes but you can't expect every man to respect you. Every type of people can be loyal but sometimes they can be a threat.
@@junkandgunk yeah, but to answer your question, ofcourse i dont think men should stay indoors for women. However, I do think this wouldnt have been an issue if both parties are able to respect one another. Women who are harassed should get the justice they should get and men should be able to respect. Ofcourse i don't think every single person can follow this but it's not like this isn't happening either. I understand what you're trying to say, but seems like majority of people here don't even know that things like "catcalling" are verbal harassment either. Sure, not all, but it shouldn't be a majority either
As an Indonesian girl living in Jakarta, this really breaks my heart. Especially after listening to most of the men’s opinions in the video.
being here is tough and we are constantly insecure. I can’t believe they see us everyday without realizing it
Pelecehan seksual ini masalah serius. Saya setuju, tapi saya ngak menengerti kenapa Indonesia bisa jadi no2 paling parah di Asia.??
Ada yg bisa jelaskan??
Soalnya saya ngak percaya studi, di Asia ada berapa banyak negara.
@@AbdulMajid-fg3ko dari kata-kata Anda "saya nggak percaya studi" aja saya nggak heran kenapa bisa-bisanya Anda nggak paham.
@@nathaya8853 disini sebenarnya salah paham, studinya bukan se asia, tapi ASEAN...
Udah di koreksi sama kawan net
😆
Maksud ngak percaya studi, karna kadang studi ada unsur politik. Biasa di Indonesia studi itu didanai untuk tujuan tertentu, bukan murni maksudnya.
@@AbdulMajid-fg3ko Oh, survey dari Microsoft memang benar adanya tanpa terkait politik
I am a Filipino, and I can recognize the sound of their language but I cannot understand it.
same goes to me. when i heard tagalog and don't pay attention on it, it just sounds like bahasa 😂
Hi...
Maybe there are many Indonesian people in Philipina?
@@AbdulMajid-fg3ko bukan.. maksud dia bahasa indo kedengarannya mirip banget kayak tagalog, walaupun dia ga ngerti kita ngomong apa. itu karna kita sama sama keturunan astronesia.. aku jg kalo denger tagalog sekilas emang bener kayak bahasa indo
@@joohwangieisunderrated5434 ooh.. Gitu. Saya kira banyak indo disana. He he
Wkwkwkw
Catcalling is what I hate the most from living here. I never find myself being comfortable walking alone. even in a broad daylight some people (men) do it to most woman. It was really annoying. I just dont understand why they find it fun to unrespect women. (Sorry for my bad english)
Although the word is "disrespect" I think UNRESPECT is a good indicator. That should be a word.
Turtle Boogie ikr, like disrespect implies someone being rude to you, unrespect implies the complete lack of respect entirely
Its wild to me. Im swiss and in all my life here, the worst ive gotten was once a whistle from an old nasty guy in a car. Thats it. No catcalls (im 22)
And when we fight back they will say 'chill out we're joking. You're not even that interesting' or 'stop being too sensitive!'
Catcalling happened everywhere not only in indonesia
2:19 Sir, there is a difference between *being safe and being cautious*. You don't need to be cautious if you're safe, and you won't feel safe if you're cautious.
Speak it louder 👌🏻
Elunya aja yg insecure
@@12volt15 apaansi bukan insecure, klo gk ngerti pahamin dlu
amd yet being cautious is what makes you safe, so you're actually safe if you don't feel safe
@@12volt15 lo ngeskip pelajaran bahasa inggris ya makanya gak bisa bedain antara "insecure" sama "cautious"
parents tell their daughter to protect they self, but they dont tell their son to respect woman
Lihatlah komennya, bahkan masih banyak yang menyalahkan korban, menganggap wanita terlalu sensitif dan emosional "hanya" karena catcalling. Itu gak sekadar "hanya" bgsd, kita para wanita gak nyaman lagi jalan tiba-tiba digodain disiul dll. Mirisnya mereka menganggap hal itu sebagai candaan.
Listening to the guys' answers makes my blood boil
reading some of their comments here just boil your blood even more
well he just telling the truth, if you(woman) can protect yourself then that's fine, but how he telling it just mansplaining. that's all, just chill dont get always mad bcs someone is telling it wrong on your opinion.
Pupper same
@@jonathantigor6395 , ':( if woman need to protect themselves, then it's dangerous. Protection is an act to defend someone from danger
understand it but you cant hate someone you never met.
I think it's so sad that it has become normalized in Indonesia for women to not go out at night.
To be honest, because they weak, they cannot do anything except screaming, maybe some of them still can defend theirself for just a moment but girls mental are easy to broke, and it's not only for a woman but man too, and it's common knowledge in every country to not go out in the night, and what they want to do walk alone in the night...?
I think it is also dangerous for men to go out alone at night in big cities such as Jakarta.
And for men its mostly not safe because of 'begal'
@@neilgaming2127 Why would you even slap your sister? It says more about you than women, doesn't it?
It's best for men and women to stay at home at night because of these so called gangsters will fuken slash anyone with a sickle
Recently I saw a video which said that Asian Boss was having a fund raising campaign. Then I looked at the type of videos, and I thought Asian Boss seem to be selective in topics on some countries such as Indonesia. The same is not true for e.g. Korea. I have been to 25 countries including Indonesia and have lived in Korea for 4 years. Korea is the only place I saw men beating women in public, particularly when they are drunk. Korean dramas promote alcohol. Whenever they have something to worry, or stress, alcohol is the solution as it's shown. When they are happy, alcohol is the way to celebrate. Also when they do videos on Indonesia, I have noticed they are also selective in choosing which answer belong to whom. In the video about Indonesia's control on alcohol, they used a response from a Muslim woman wearing a face veil as a response to disagree Alcohol should be allowed (what are they trying to show?). I appeared myself in Korean KBS, and I know what they did to me. They were selective in clips of what they wanted to show, and what they wanted to omit. For me I felt they used me for their propaganda. I simply have no idea on that when they were shooting. I didn't want to comment 3 days ago when I noticed the bias of Asianboss 3 days ago, but today when I saw this by chance, I decided to put out my opinion. They should instead ask Korean women how dangerous they feel by harassment of men in Korea. Just ask exactly the same questions in Korea. Gordon Ramsay's kitchen nightmare series expose the truth that even in the developed countries these things happen, sometimes may be worse.
Is south Korea is also has problems like Indonesia?
Interesting, which asianboss video are you in?
Even though it is true that there are a lot of worse countries than Indo, in matter of treating women. But it cost nothing for us to admit and reflect on our fault, and try to fix the problem that Indo has.
Once an Indonesian man said to me: "We respect our women because they cover their heads with scarfs and hijabs"... I answered: "Well... do you? With all this harassment taking place in trains and other public places, even when they wear the hijab?" He then said: "I am sorry sir, but you are right. We have a double standard here"...
This is harsh. I'm an Indonesian, and as a student, talking about or being taught about sex is something taboo. Also, students aren't taught to self-control here. I mean, being attracted sexually is TOTALLY FINE. But those people tend to express it instead of keeping it for themself, I think that's the problem: SELF-CONTROL.
I think topics about sex needs to be taught since ones' still young, instead of keeping them out of sex topics. Because it is impossible. One day, they will exposed to sexual content either through people around them, internet, etc etc. Teen needs to be ready for that thing once it hit them.
Vincentius Hadi Caraka Nugroho I agree with you the more we hide topics like that from children the more curious they are and when a child become so curious they will look it up on the Internet and most likely get wrong informations. I think making sex as a taboo topic will make some children ashamed even by just saying it. It’s a natural thing that we human will experience one day so we should be educated about it
no thats not the problem
there WILL ALWAYS BE BAD PEOPLE
its your choice to use condom during sex
its your choice to wear seatbelt when driving
its your choice to find someone to protect you when you walk at night
the world is and WILL ALWAYS BE a dangerous place
if you walk alone, people will harass you, when you walk together as a group, no one would want to
@@personspec8881 That's a good point. However, what I put emphasize on was to make the world a safer place instead of keeping those dangers off of us.
Bcs sometimes what happens is we have to go to the dangerous outside world that you already mentioned, without the luxury of having some safety precautions, such as someone to accompany us, or even go out in groups, etc etc.
And I think the urgency to make the world a safer place is higher than to promote "make sure you have someone with you" because it needs no saying that most of us realize that this is a dangerous world that we're living in.
But still, promoting that kind of stuff is important to remind people, especially minors because they tend to underestimate how dangerous it can be to go out alone.
@@personspec8881 so do you expect every woman to go out with someone all the time?
EXACTLY
3:24 Sad that the women choose not to go out at night just to avoid being catcalled or harassed.
हाना सुगिसाकी杉﨑華 that is what happened here, sometimes pretty girl if she walk alone in the afternoon, some guys will cat calling us. thats why its unsafe for us
do you want then to be catcalled?
Danger for women will always be anywhere in any form
Abimar Chua ???? She is calling it sad that the girl can’t go out, not that she doesn’t want to be catcalled
Nothing is more dangerous than the human's thought.
We don't know what may happen anytime to any of us
I was born and raised in Bali and I consider this place safe. Of course I've been catcalled, but those who catcalled me had never been a Balinese. And then, I went to Jakarta once. I was wearing super oversized black T-Shirt and long baggy jeans... I got catcalled almost EVERYWHERE. That's how I realised that Bali is so much safer.
Buat laki2 tolong jaga manner kalian dimanapun kalian berada. Jangan sekali2 menuruti pikiran jahil yang muncul. Bantu para perempuan agar merasa aman. Buat perempuan percaya bahwa kalian bukan predator. Kalian harus menjaga diri kalian dan mengendalikan diri kalian. Tidak perduli apa yang dikenakan oleh perempuan kalian tetap harus menjaga manner kalian.
There's a way to not suffer, not be in danger, not be poor, not get hurt, not have to work in vain, not have to feel any kind of negative vibe, & not to be disrespected anymore by anyone.
Imagine you will be invincible, immortal, and holy with a new, upgraded body. Imagine everyone around you will be the same as you without ranking/hierarchy. Isn't that a delightful thought? It's true you or anyone can have eternal life.
All you got to do is to accept Jesus Christ 🙏 as your Savior! Once you do, He will let you into heaven during your day when you finally see Him! ❤❤❤
Many men in this comment only set the times for a women to going out.
Why doesnt he controling his perverted mind?
The right answer is to give both sides some education about respecting both genders and themselves. So they have a higher self-esteem to not do stupid thing like harassing other or bait opposite gender(same sex) to sexually harass them. You can't always blame lust for what's happened and you can't also always consider that lust is something normal that u can blame the victim for. Both sides needs to protect themselves from any type of harm. Just like what islam teach us.
Lets be real, none of these both side, wether your people, or those mens, is giving any better opinions than other. Both are important.
Nah they little mind dont get that far i guess
YEAH, ISLAM IS ABOUT PEACE AND RESPECT.
LOL.
@Papyrus Okagbue islamophobic detected.... 🍼🍼
Get outta here you hedonist feminist Marxist globalist secular garbage spewing subhuman cretin
"It's pretty safe" - comming from a dude. yeah...
Betul. Faktor individu juga sangat berpengaruh. Aku sendiri sejak kecil sampai sekarang sering jalan sendiri ya enjoy enjoy aja. Interaksi dengan lingkungan dengan masyarakat yang belum dikenal juga bikin nyaman karena ramah2.
Yeah it's safe for him but not us, as a woman...
@@bvllgari0198 What type of language you people use! I don't understand a word. 😢😢
@@pritisingh507 Bahasa Indonesia. I Guess🤔
@@pritisingh507 this is Indonesian language sis.
As Indonesian girl, i can confirmly that here are quite dangerous for women. There always catcalling
The young lady who said we just don't go out at night. Made me sad. You can tell she doesn't even realize she's oppressed she's in survival mode. Its just normal now. She's losing whole parts of the day to harassment and fear.
Yup sad
its not safe walking alone in indonesia especially in quiet place
Basically every country.
Every country ever
@@thareqprimaharianto8725 no
Depends on the province
Zeosth are you even Indonesian?
Moderator : How dangerous is Indonesia for Women?
Indonesia : Yes.
Hendrik Frans finally found a “yes” comment HAHAHA
Im an indonesian and, yes.
LMAO
Yes.. Indonesia is danger for woman!
Hope there is no foreign traveler here.
Alot of us dont really foreigner!
I my self love to explore my country without see foreigner!
extremely dangerous for women to live in
I am glad that at least the women in the interview and in the comments understand the problem and don't blame themselves
It's true, my mom always told me to don't go outside after dark, plus the street in this country also still dark (lack of lights) at some places in the night.
pretty disappointed but not surprised how some of the guys think Indonesia is safe because they don't hear often about what women go through 🤦🏽♀️ just because it doesn't happen TO YOU means it's different for women and young girls... pretty interesting how every girl you ask knows cases about sexual harrasment and rape, but men don't...
Here's the logic ... there's this one bad guy ... when he met women, he's gonna do sexual harassment. What if this bad guy met another guy ? ... he's gonna mugged them even beat them down. Yes, men don't get sexual harassment, but if we aren't cautious, we might get robbed & dead.
Men on average get killed/mugged/assaulted at a way higher percentage than women. So them saying it's safe means they don't see what's going on but neither do the women.
I'm curious how these ladies would define sexual harassment.
kristinacervera Women have no sense of humor. This is just harmless catcalling. Compared to US President Donald Trump and Philippine President Rodrigo Duterte, Indonesian men are shy and reserved. 😐😐😐😐
@@John77Doe did you just say catcalling is harmless?! Soooo you would be ok with it, if your daughter/future daughter is walking down the street and some random guy starts sexualizing and commenting on her breasts or ass
Indonesia is really hugeeee country. If you ask about safety in Jakarta maybe it will be unsafe. But if you ask that question in Bali it would be totally different.
Yep lots of hoes there I heard...
Yeah, exactly because it's a hugeee country.
No i dont think so, saya sudah pernah ke bali catcalling dan sexual harrassement terhadap bule atau turis lokal juga masih ada disana lebih tepatnya di tempat pariwisatanya. Ada kok tapi ga sebanyak jakarta, cuma media lokal kita jarang mengekspos aja karena bali salah satu tempat pariwisata terbaik indonesia
@@paramapandu8043 mungkin lebih tepatnya ada, tp diliputnya bukan harassment, dianggep udah biasa. Udah lumrah.
@@mboihk3796 the term hoes is disrespectful.
Sebagai laki² saya mengakui bahwa indonesia tidaklah aman untuk perempuan,karena saya banyak mendengar pengalaman buruk tentang ibu saya yang beberapa kali menjadi korban kejahatan penjambretan,pencopetan dan pemukulan,itu baru dari ibu saya, belum lagi dari adik saya,nenek saya, Tante ² saya yang pernah bercerita tentang mereka yang terkena tindak kejahatan di jalanan di Jakarta.
Yaa berti masih laki2 bnyak yg norak, tidak terpelajar, PR buat keluarga masing2 yg musti didukung oleh pemerintah juga.
Kalo dari pihak laki2nya ignorance ya karena mereka ga tau dan g mngalami mungkin ya, atau g dpt aduan dari saudari perempuanya.
Tapi kalo pengalaman gw sendiri sih tindakan catcalling, spt siul2, swit- swit gitu sering gw lihat/ lumrah ditemukan.
This is really opening my eyes. I thought they would answer "it's safe", but the reality is they are unsafe. As Indonesian guy, I feel sorry and we all should open our eyes. We should resist it and be careful. Again, I am sorry, girls.
Funny how i walked with my husband beside me and still got catcalled. That's how indonesian "man" behave.
not ALL indonesian men. YOUR LOGIC IS BAD GURL.
LOL i had my father behind me and still got catcalling
in my country..if a woman walking with husband.. and someone try to do this with her.. he will not be alive in next moment..
Women are our pride
Malaysian also like that. Im a Malaysian guy, i used to walk with my ex girlfriend around the city but some guys still cat calling her
It's just like India. Not at all safe for women
It’s sad that the women have a mindset of “We should be prepared” and “We should be careful” and “We can’t do certain things,” which makes it seem like they’re the ones at fault. They all seem to be taught that it’s their problem for being harassed, not the men’s fault for actually doing so. Indonesia needs to get better at telling men how to act and have more law enforcement on wrongdoings such as sexual harassment and misconduct.
Yes! We stan
Periodt! Of course
@Alexander Dugins that comment is too offensive man you shouldn't do that
It's just our reality in Indonesia atm. Women have to prepared for those kind of things. We are so heavily overpopulated and yet the education is not growing equally.
@@closeen8574 bru he like a bot commenting every comment that he see ong,and yea its too rude
As an indonesian women, seeing this video is infuriating. Especially the thoughts and words that are uttered by the men in this video. How ignorant and easy for them to say when they never spent a day in our shoes and listen to what it's like to be us. If we get harassed, it's "our fault" and not the disgusting way the men behave and how the society in indonesia responds 🙄
As an Indonesian woman living in Jakarta, I would like to share my real-life experience on this
Compared to other countries that have bad labels sticks to them (I often have to travel for work to Malaysia, and my colleague always warn me about rape/abduction even though we stayed in KL. Also in Tokyo where groping is a "daily" occurence), I consider Jakarta mainly on the safe side.
Due to my job, I mostly have to do overtime and go back home past 11 PM by Grab/taxi, so far nothing happened. Even when going out for drinks and leaving at 2 AM, I haven't got any issue so far. Of course, always being on alert is a given
And even when you feel malicious atmosphere when walking alone at night, somehow I feel safer here in Jakarta because the people here would respond when you scream. Even when someone did something inappropriate in the public (groping, showing their private part etc), you can depend that someone can stand up for you when you ask for help.
Yet when talking about non-physical harassment like catcalling or when men staring at you openly, indeed I find it a daily episode. However, you can openly bark at the people who did this to you (very rare they willl get back to you, but I think I'm not in the wrong so I stand my ground. Most people will support you as well if the catcaller make a ruckus).
In a nutshell, be a strong women in Jakarta. Keep yourself alert at every time.
Guys:" Indonesia is very safe for girls"
Girls:" If you said so"
Lol
YEAH, ISLAM IS ABOUT PEACE AND RESPECT.
LOL.
@@dfgfddffd4297 Hey how about if i talk it about your religion?? lol, If you not angry you must be superman..
LOL men word is a law and the truth in islamic world.
@@zxz9086 You don't know Muslim, so shut up..
I love how they show the contrast between the woman and the privileged victim-blaming guy
youre not a smart person.
6:14 setuju, guru sd sy pdhl berpendidikan dan posisinya dihormati di sekolah, tp dia suka ngelecehin anak2 cewek, salah satunya saya, padahal saya yg satu2nya berhijab di kelas kala itu, dia jg sering ngeluarin omongan2 gak pantas yg gak seharusnya di dengar oleh anak2 sd.
Mereka bilang perempuan harus menjaga dirinya, tanpa lupa untuk mengedukasi para laki laki.
Perempuan belajar menjaga diri lebuh cepat dari para hidung belang belajar menahan diri. Dan itu fakta. Bisa aja sih, kalau semua hidung belang ditobatin. Tapi kalau selama proses tersebut para cewek masih ogah belajar menjaga diri, ya percuma anjir
@@randomblackpp2578 cowoknya harus bisa pake nalar dong, buat apa dikasih otak tapi masih pake insting? Apa bedanya sama hewan yg Gk punya otak? 😒
I see so many comments saying 'Jakarta is not the only city in Indonesia' but honestly Asian boss has reporters in so many countries already, they can't start going to different parts of the country as well. They don't have reporters from other regions, but are still trying the best they can
We don't care about how, but we care what they concluded in this video, and that's wrong. Indonesia is safe for women. Feminism movement doesn't born here because women here doesn't need that,they're fine
@@mrnobody-cf6il but can you really say Indonesia is safe for women if even one region is unsafe? Doesn't the entire country have to be safe for you to say that? Look I don't know much about Indonesia but Asian boss does get criticized a lot in a lot of videos for only going to one or two cities, and I want people to understand that they're trying but it's not easy.
@@orangecrumb you should learn statistic again.
@@mrnobody-cf6il I'm saying it's not *completely 100%* safe, I'm not saying Indonesia is dangerous for women
@raja klana they have done several videos like that actually, and I'm not saying people should blindly believe what Asian boss is saying, I just want people to stop attacking them for not having enough reporters. I'm not saying that they're not at fault.
What amazes me living in Indonesia is that experiencing sexual harassment is so normalized it's just SAD
sofia - it happens on daily basis and people think it becomes a way of life . I am telling you as an Indonesian woman the frustration is real.
henny harman bro seriously! My friend told me a story of how her mom's chest was groped by strange men like it's no big deal and I was just shocked. "Udah biasa kali" "aelah itu mah sering" like that's just s a d
sofia - hearing that kind of story is making me furious .
welp true. i experienced it myself then tell it to my family and even counselor teacher and they were just "… oh…" and thats all. (its not catcalling, and its worse)
@@sofiasalsabila9264most woman around me have the same experience
My school used to be a unisex school, all girls, and we had our p.e. lessons at our school's parking lot. Can't tell how many drivers or men stayed outside peeking through our school's fence to stare at us, even when our p.e. uniform wasn't even that tight
Sex edukasi di Indonesia sangat rendah, berbeda di negara lain sudah diajarkan sex edukasi sejak dini. Tapi di Indonesia sex edukasi itu dianggap hal tabu. Laki2 yang suka menggoda perempuan dijalan rata2 laki2 yang berpendidikan rendah atau bahkan tidak sekolah. Kalau yang berpendidikan tinggi mereka lebih respect dengan perempuan. Saya laki2 tapi sumpah tidak pernah seumur hidup saya menggoda perempuan dijalanan
Kamu bisa lihat negara dengan tingkat kekerasan sexual tertinggi ..coba cek
aku pernah kluar buat les pas smp, aku pkek baju gamis dan berhijab trtutup smpek dada, tpi tiba" ada speda motor dari blakang yg sperti mau menyalip saya, tpi trnyata saat dia benar" di samping saya dia mlah mnggrepe buah dada saya lalu lngsung pergi, how dangerous is indonesia, hijab bukan alasan, tpi otak hentai para lelaki laknat tuh yg perlu di perbaiki
Otak laki2 itu pada dasarnya emang mesum,beda antara cowok baik Dan bejat itu Bukan otaknya to kontrol Dan moralnya
@@subscribeofficial7134 komen anda menunjukkan bahwa anda termasuk kategori lelaki T0L0L
@@subscribeofficial7134 iya kamu pasti jamet2 yg suka catcalling
@@subscribeofficial7134 tanya aja ke emak lo. Kan emak lo juga cewek
@@pikacumecucu7220 lelaki kampret lahir dri batu
Buat yang komen "ini cuma Jakarta, bukan Indonesia, daerah lain aman"
Ndasmu!!
Belum pernah merasakan ditebas geng motor Brigez, XTC dan kawan2nya di Bandung? Mobilmu dirusak hanya karena pake plat B terutama saat Persib lagi tanding?
Belum pernah merasakan dibegal, dijambret di Kota Medan yang makin lama keamanannya makin ancur?
Belum pernah merasakan naik bus dilemparin batu di jalan lintas Sumatera?
Astaga serem banget
dan di desa sebenarnya sex bebas itu merajalela,....tapi namanya perselingkuhan dan hal-hal yang berkaitan dengan pelecehan seksual itu sangat tertutup, karena korban yg merasa malu dan dirugikan.....
tau deh tuh orang2...
satu negara mayoritas mindsetnya sama. yang disalahin, yang harus "dibenerin" itu cewe/korbannya. yang kurang ajar siapa yang disalahin siapa. victim blaming everywhere. selama mindsetnya begitu, pelecehan/kekerasan seksual bakal terus merajalela di Indo. dan cuma karena lu ga pernah ngalamin/denger berita bukan berarti lu bisa bilang "daerah lain aman", ignorance at its best.
@@sukmabidari8740 apalagi di daerah pinggiran ya, awareness secara umum masih rendah dan yang paling penting itu "nama baik". banyak pada kasus perkosaan, habis korbannya yang disalahin, mereka malah disuruh kawin sama penjahatnya . kasian banget.
@@21dzz iya...q punya saudara kaya gitu,..dia dihamili bapak tirinya,..trus karna untuk menutupi itu dia dinikahkan sama orang lain yg nggk dia kenal .....dan masih banyak kasus lainnya disekitar kita....
Welcome to Indo, where in this case when girls are cat called or harassed by a dude, and speak up, kita yang perempuan yang di blame. "Lagi Makai baju mancing cowok²" this is why we girls is afraid to speak up. This happened to me, was cat called and was even touched. I was disgusted. I then told someone and I was the blame. I was wearing my school uniform, and was blamed for looking "like I'm asking for it"
kadang gua mau pindah negara gais:)
Tapi di video ini seakan akan bilang,dibantai di bunuh di perkosa,buset dah serem banget ni indonesia udh kek meksiko🤣,playing victim nya berlebihan,kebanyakkan harrasment nya itu sebatas cat-calling,yang sampe nyolek itu bisa di gebukkin warga kalo lu berani ngomong,bahkan kan ada yg namanya begal payudara,heran gua sama cewek cwek di video ini
Pindah aja njir....
Negara juga gak butuh elo 😂😂😂😂
@@gian8824 g juga sih yg parah2 gitu juga banyak malah
In my opinion even the government is toxic, tbh Indonesia is a quite safe place for women, we can access education and work anything we like, altought in some cases you can find a very toxic and negative environtment. just some uneducational people do cat calling or even sexual harrasment but what i can see from it, is because mostly they didn't get anough education. Although as a muslim country, many guys who prcatise their religion and most important open minded will respect women.
Especially for Indonesian born Chinese girls...not all Indonesian do this...but whenever I walk on the street, some boys always start staring and cat calling me...it's so uncomfortable 😔😔😔😔 I always wear my glasses and a mask to cover my face....
Also, the boys always blame us, girls on how we dress...eventhough we wear a long sleeve and long jeans 😒😒😒😒😒
Sedih
Yes,i feel it too.
🙏keep safe, darl.
Kagak semua munaroh, cewek Chinese emg di jalan byk yg pake hot pants, pdhl jelas Kita ini budaya timur, ya tergantung lo nya menjaga diri lo gimana, this is Indonesia,Kita menjunjung norma2 ketimuran bukan kebaratan, jd bedain yah..
@@bayuwahyuadi3999 pembodohan kamu, gue aja yg pake kerudung panjang lebar plus jaket plus baju rok longgar tetep aja digodain. Saat itu gue lupa make masker dan padahal gue ga dandan sama sekali. MASA GUE HARUS PAKE HELM KEMANA MANA, mikirnya jangan pake selangkangan mas, jadinya BODOH
I usually keep my hair reeeally short. Once, after a haircut, a guy friend asked me why I always keep my hair short. I said it's because once I start looking feminine, random guys in the street will catcall me.
He responded with how I should feel flattered instead.
I have never felt so disgusted ever in my life...
This happened not long after me getting groped by three middle school age boys on a motorcycle while I was walking home with groceries on the street I always pass through.
Recently, a new building is being built near my dorm. 4 stories high, about 4 houses away. Naturally there's the labor guys working there.
I used to like to stand around on the balcony, but ever since they started catcalling when they noticed me, I rarely go there.
If you got something to share, feel free.
Same with Arab men
I mostly got a catcalled from labour guys it is irritating
@@nora4981 Seems like this is a man thing XD
Yes, even when we set angry/aggressive/cold expression, men will still see it as cute. Malah menjadi jadi kadang kadang. Malah bersyukur kadang saya dikira ibu2, malah aman dan dihormati, gak diganggu.
@@nemureru_tanuki I am aware some people are into it. Unfortunately, I am not 'worried' about my hair, and me having a short haircut has nothing to do with whether people are into it or not. Especially not some guy.
Have a good day.
For me, Indonesia is not too bad for women ... because I live in an area that is far from violence by women. surveys and data from a nominal figure do not make the country uninhabitable. (Usually when there is a beating of a woman, the people around will help both men and women.)
Surprisingly, most of the comments who disagree with this video and don't believe the study above are Indonesian men (mostly). At first I didn't believe it either, but after I asked several people, it was true that they felt unsafe to go outside. Mostly due to verbal sexual harassment (which is still considered normal behavior by Indonesian men). And, this study is only in Asia Pacific area.
As a bule I was surprised to find out that walking at night, alone or not, was less dangerous than walking in my own city (Western Europe). It's in Jogja though and just my experience. Unfortunatly some people I know, bule and locals were not that lucky. Harrassement happens everywhere in the world unfortunatly...
I think the statistic is not true..i am statistic student btw and we can manipulated the data easily..you know what i mean..
Well mostly because you're a foreigner. People mostly harass someone of their color
Yes, because u were on your vacation right? U dnt really know the situation and "having fun in Jogja" is the only thing in ur mind. And because u're a bule, u're like "untouchable", they must be really brave if they do catcall or another harrasment.
Btw come visit Indonesia again, wich u a good luck and experince here!
They don't catcalls bule as much. Emphasis on the as much, because they do still get cat called. Mostly they'll stare and talk about you but you're seen as "untouchable".
@@fakyu9346 I live here. And I think all of you didn't fully read my comment. I said I was lucky. Others, LOCALS and BULE were not that lucky. And the "people mostly harass someone of their color" is just absolutly untrue. it happens everywhere. Did you even read what I said ?
Guys started cat calling me at the age of 13. So from then on, i always instinctively look down or cover my face when i pass a group of suspicious guys hoping that they wouldn’t notice me. It’s THAT bad 😑
Gray Kin they usually never go past anything more than cat calling, and more than being afraid of it, it just makes me really really uncomfortable. At first i fought back, but after awhile i got tired and just hope they wouldn’t notice me at all to begin with.
I do the opposite. I used to look down while passing by, but now I just stare at them. My theory is that those random guys like to catcall girls to get their attention, so what I do is I look in their direction to start with and hope they don't catcall me. Well, that's just my weird logic 😂
lol......I also tend to look down when I passing a group of stranger girls too...yeah I'm pretty introvert back then...and girls also like to catcalling a pure white maiden innocent boy...wkwkwk...
It's a little discouraging to hear that it's not changed since I lived over there...
Sorry you had to and still go through that.
Indonesia in TOP 1 most muslim in the world, but Guess what?
Most of them didn't get full education about Islam teaching, especially respect women. Sad Truth. Indonesia need to enhance their Islam teaching.
we all know that guy who said "safe" is a hypocrite and probably has low respect to women -_-.
Now you're judging people. Even so, you still have no any right to judge him. You dont even know who he really is. Stop judging people.
2:14 ''... especially women''
2:21 '' If she can look out for herself-I think it's pretty safe.''
That doesn't make sense sir. If a women had to look for herself everytime she step out of her house, it means the area where she live isn't safe. *Period.*
Obviously he prolly never experienced catcalling or other form of sexual harassment. You can't say it's *safe* if the topic isn't point at you. 0 empathy.
I'd love to visit Indonesia one day tho. ♡
Its only frequently happened in big city like Jakarta. If you planned to go to Indonesia, I recommended you to visit Jogjakarta, Raja Ampat, or, of course, Bali
Ahmada_Fad Bali orangnya bener2 minding their own business sih wkwkw keluar malem2 bareng temen2 perempuan pun rasanya terasa cukup aman.
Well wherever you go that is in indonesia make sure not to be alone
Please not jakarta.. i have some friends visited jakarta and got accidents :( bali is more safe.
what he meant by saying "look out for herself" is referring to women that can protect themself, because did you know that indonesia is rich of culture including martial arts is part of it, that a lot of people learn martial arts including women, so basically woman can also look out for herself in indonesia IF they had learn or master some self-defense
its disappointing how this still happens in 2019...
Hammer Addiction4u yup I can’t believe shitty people still exist
Hammer Addiction4u islam
Then go tell the American Democrats to stop whining about women in America being oppressed, which they aren't, and fight for these kinds of women since they care about women's rights so much.
@@kushaq1173 india is 1 in rank
@@kushaq1173 You're a smart one aren't you?
"as long as she's taking care of herself, its pretty safe" 😐
me & my friends were 14. we were wearing our school uniform (long skirt, long sleeves baggy shirt, overall hijab) there were these men catcalling my friend and istg my friend was so scared, she was shaking af but thank god i was there with her so i told her just to ignore them and we run to the nearest market. this is what you call safe?? imagine you were FOURTEEN and got sexual harassment from ADULT MEN. men really should educate themselves & don't speak on behalf of women.
I''m surprised with the survey that Indonesian is not safe for women. I've been going to 5 biggest islands in Indonesia (papua, sulawesi, borneo, java, sumatra), never met any friend, neighborhood, or co-worker who is violent to women (though some divorced, remaried). Maybe I'm so lucky to be surrounded by good people ?
I wish more people be like that. Just being a decent human being
I'm Indonesian but I keep my eyes into subtitle😂
Same 😂
Same here
Lmao same
Ini bukan masalah wanita yg harus pake pakaian sopan/engga. Karna masih ada aja kok perempuan udh menutup auratnya tp tetep aja dilecehin
sweet baby Lah di pesantren yang semuanya udah dibungkus kayak lepet aja masih banyak pelecehan seksual kok. Lha wong bayi sama balita aja diperkosa kok, yang selalu berdalih ini karena wanita harus berpakaian sopan ngomongnya dari pantat.
Iya makanya... gwe pke baju rapet, jilbab rapet, pke masker masih aja digodain waktu jalan ke Indomaret...
@Edy Siswanto dan itu tdk membuat alasanny sebagai hal yg wajar jika melakukan pelecehan
Siapa bilang udah menutup aurat kgk dilecehin? elu kgk pake pakaian sopan nambahin peluang elu dilecehin.
@@12volt15 udah banyak buktinya, yg pake pakaiann tertutup aja masih suka ada yg ngelecehhin. Jadi yg salah bukan pakaiannya
We know it's not safe at night so we don't go out at night. Stated like a fact. In japan 🗾 women can walk outside any time of day and they won't feel as scared. It's so much safer. People (men and women) even fall asleep outside due to overwork.
I'm a filipino, and listening to Indonesian language it feels like I understand it but not. It sounds like; "kanang... Ana-ana...kuan-kuan...".
Same thing when I listen to Asian Boss videos about Philippines XD
Karna di indonesia sex education hampir tidak ada / masih di anggap tabu, bahkan dalam lingkungan keluarga. kurangnya pendidikan dalam penggunaan medsos juga kurang, ortu sekarang lebih membiarkan anak dalam pengguanaan medsos tanpa pengawasan.
Sekarang udah mulai terbuka si mnurut gw, ibu gw aja udah ngajarin sex-ed ke adek gw
Lah waktu gw smp tahun 2008 aja sex education udah diajar kok
Bagi sebagian besar org indo, sex-ed means "belajar kamasutra dan posisi ena2"
ada tapi most pelajar laki² otaknya udah keburu jorok sama sex-ed
@@lolololo-fs2po ga segencar sekarang kalo dulu, jadi stok orang bego masih merajalela
The problem is Indonesia is a very vast country with numerous different cultures. One can feel a cultural shock just by visiting another island. What you may encounter in Jakarta can be radically different to what you may encounter in, say, Solo, a city which is still in the same island. You can imagine how different things in places like Jayapura, Aceh, Lombok, Tarakan, etc.
I mean the interviewer should interview women in other parts of Indonesia too, to get the bigger picture, because the title is "How dangerous is *Indonesia* for women".
Do u mean women can go late at night in other city in Indonesia and never label as bad girl/prostitute?
Have you ever walk on night in Jayapura? Even as a men myself, i would not suggest you to do it...
Sir that happens in almost every country. Usually countries are various cultures/areas together.
No. What I mean is the interviewers should interview women in the other parts of Indonesia too to get the bigger picture. Why? Because the title is "How dangerous is *Indonesia* for women", not "How dangerous *Jakarta* for women."
@@justafeeling3652 I think that's just a matter of perspective. A girl/woman should maintain her reputation in society, especially in the neighborhood for the sake of family dignity.
But I'm speaking for myself, I often spending nights far from home for some organisation activities, and that's fine, bcs my parents know what I'm doing and the guys I'm spending time with is protecting me.
2:10 describe how most of indonesian men thinking about sexual harassment. All of that because the victims couldn't take care of theirself.
Indonesia is not just Jakarta
“If she can look out for herself” is so frustrating. It’s always the women who worry about how short our skirts are, if anyone is following behind us, if our t shirts are too deep, if our nipples are showing through, etc... meanwhile, men who are blindly ignoring these things walk around at night not having to worry about being groped, raped, or sexually harassed. Yes men are also vulnerable to these issues but not as women are. Seeing men in these videos and noticing how men are the ones who are surprised that Indonesia is #2 dangerous country for women and disagreeing or saying that is safe is just maddening. I wonder if they know what that their moms, sisters, and wives/gfs think
XYZ says: I ain‘t a stripping bar!
Thanks
sorry if i might come off as creepy but "nipples showing through", isn't a bra just enough to prevent that? do you girls wear only just some extra thick layer of external clothing just because bra is uncomfortable or something?
just a curious question...
"Wear proper clothes!"
"It's your fault, your skin can be seen so of course they will harass you"
"Come on, why bother, it's just because you're beautiful, they just like you!"
Whether you're a muslim or not, live in a big city or not, wear hijab or not, sexual harassment is real here.
I don't realize it before, but then i remember too scared to go out alone at 7pm. That's how dangerous it feels.
Also, catcalling is something that society force us to take as a normal thing while it really bother.
I don't want to talk bad about my country but religion doesnt have much to do with this at all. Even in place that i thought as the safest place because it's a religion-base school also have so many sexual harassment cases.
I hate that women always seen as a "candy" and tendency in society that it's always women's fault.
If you're a man, then you have to educate yourself to respect women more.
Edit: since Indonesia is such a big country, so it maybe different for another region
I can totally relate man. Education is poor here.
@Papyrus Okagbue i don't see any statement where i said people have to wear hijab to prevent harassment.
Oh I guess you misunderstood several sentences in the beginning? I use this sign -> "
It means I just repeat sentences that i kept hearing from around me. Please read the whole comment carefully
I'm a Christian btw
@Papyrus Okagbue you are so weird. Maybe you should read carefully again instead of being so overly reactive for reading too fast. None of her statement said non-Muslim should wear hijab.
@Papyrus Okagbue Papyrus Okagbue i never think that way. And i guess i have around 60 peole who agree with my statement.
"Wear hijab or not..", it means no matter women wear hijab or not, they still experienced sexual harassment. How the hell i will end up thinking that force all of women even non muslim to wear hijab too is a solution?
I don't understand why would you think that i think that way
Instead, in the last paragraph I said men have to educate them selves more
@Papyrus Okagbue Imagine being this dumb in english comprehension, and this brainwashed about life. This is why we have wars people. I don't even practice islam but i hope you're just a kid or at least still young.
Amazing how all the women think there's a risk but the guy thinks it's safe. Also, the girl who say that she feels safe but is too scared to go out at night doesn't understand what safe means. If she's scared to go out at night then she isn't safe.
Aku sebagai warga negara Indonesia malu bet dih liat berita ke gini😔
ya gimana ya mungkin kita sudah berusaha jd manusia baik2, sama2 menjaga hawa nafsu dan perilaku tapi nyatanya masih banyak yg melakukan tindak kekerasan seksual terutama ke perempuan2 :”
@Melodude TV jujur w lebih milih col* dari pada memperkusa anak orng😑😅
They are trying to fix the problem by fixing the women's stance when it's clearly the guys who have to get called out on it. Urgh!
I knowww. Society often teaches people on how to protect themselves from danger, when really we should be educating people on how to not endanger/harrass others. But I'm glad some of the girls in the video have this perspective.
I am a doctor (not really, but read on). I treat stomach problems by removing the stomach: No stomach, no stomach problem.
Fixing this safety for women problem by focusing on the women themselves is right on with my medical philosophy.
2:15 I think 2 reason why Indonesia become like this cuz of poorly educated dude and overly educated guy like you.
"Nah its a safe place just that everyone should know how to take care of themself especially women cuz if not they'll get harassed or rape and if they do its their fault cuz they don't know how to take care of themself" is that what you're trying to say.
I'm a young girl from indonesia and trust me everyday on the news it's always because of "someone fighting" or "somone robbed us" netheir "oh help some random dude raped me"
That's right. If everyone knows how many women get harassement and the reason why they wont to speak up. Actually some of them(victim) said it will be useless when you try to speak up. You will get blamed and discrimination from people around you. Like all of that happend because you cant take care of urself. So yeah.
Yeah the police here is suck, i have a stalker before and its really scary i dont know what to do, if i have to report it, without money nothinh will be solved, if i share my story in internet i will expose my self too, such a horrible thing leave trauma inside
Blaming the victim is a definition of rape culture.
lagaknya doang sok pinter ngomongnya. isinya kosong itu. percuma wanita tutupi smua badannya tapi laki indo tetep dipelihara sange nya. gua laki laki dan gua percaya masalahnya bukan di perempuan, tapi di mental laki laki nya. betul, ada beberapa perempuan yang memang suka memakai pakaian yang kurang sopan, tapi kalo memang laki laki nya bisa menahan sange nya, saya rasa itu bukan jadi masalah. MASALAH NYA ITU DI SIFAT SANGE LAKI LAKI. JADI TOLONG UNTUK LAKI LAKI, JANGAN CUMA BISA NGACENGIN KONTOL DOANG. BELAJAR HARGAI PEREMPUAN. KARENA DARI KAUM MEREKA LAKI LAKI ADA.
Indonesia is a big country. Conducting interviews in a single city with inadequate sample can never produce accurate and satisfactory results that representative to the whole country. Delete this useless and incompetent survey.
Muslim or not, using hijab or shorts, women are women.
Stop blaming on the VICTIMS