I kinda can't believe Donut is still working with Better Help when Better Help sells user data. If there was ever a business that shouldn't be selling user data, it's your therapist.
Worse yet, they got in a huge scandal because they weren’t vetting the “therapists” on their site. People with no certification or training could sign up to be therapists on there. So not only was a site nominally meant for therapy and helping those who need help selling user data, but they didn’t even ensure that the people hired to help the users even knew what they were doing. It’s like a su1cide hotline putting a caller on hold.
As a Maserati certified tech at a Maserati dealer. I will say I see way too many people buy these for cheap like this and get shell shocked when it needs work and realize they can't afford to keep the car running. And they definitely need work... alot.
What kind of work do they need? I have friends working as technicians at Maserati and they approve the current gens line-up reliability equipped with ZF-8HP, especially engine wise. The previous gens were a disaster.
One of my best friends is a Maserati technician. He’s shared volumes of horror stories about reliability. The cars would routinely come in off-lease and there was SO MUCH wrong with them the dealer would send them straight to auction. Some unsuspecting dealer would buy them and send them back to the Maserati dealer for a repair quote. The quote was eye-watering, so back to the auction they would go to be resold. My friend would see the exact same car come in two, three, four times from the same auction. He would just save the original quote and reprint it numerous times. You can quote me on this: “The Italians have a knack for building beautiful machinery that doesn’t work very well.”😂
BS...Italian craftsmanship in everything from autos, bikes, super yachts, weaponry, luxury goods, jewelry on and on is world renown and prized. How good are those German brands? Money pits with gadgets and 99% of the world's countries only dream of having Italy's brands.
@@spaniardsrmoors6817Then why are there so many more German cars than Italian cars in the U.S., given the country's strict safety and import regulations? Not saying I love German cars or that they're better than all other cars in terms of machinery, personally I like Japanese cars, but German cars do generally have a lot less issues than Italian cars. There's many more Italian brands in the UK, yet due to their bad rep it's not worthwhile to import cheaper-end models vs. cheap German cars are everywhere in the U.S. I'm sure if Italian engineering really was as good as you claim, Italian cars would be imported just as much as German cars, yet only people who have the money for the expensive luxury and super cars (not built to last a long time btw) deem it worthwhile because they have f-you money to throw away and they have god knows how many other cars if something happens to it.
@@syundown6005Main reason? Italians still haven't learned the art of organization and advertising their brands. Plus the Italian lifestyle for the most part doesn't always lend itself to having to sell, sell, sell and more, more, more money. They're more family oriented and into enjoying life more than the Germans and Japanese as that takes a toll on one's life. All you need to do is see the stress takes on the lives of Germans and Japanese, I've seen the videos, many of them are unhappy and have high rates of self-immolation. Italians don't and have been ranked as high as #1 healthiest country and usually stay in the top 10. They know how to balance business with pleasure, that's why they may not be the best in certain fields but are still able to be in the top 10 in economy, military, trading nation, wealthiest citizens in the world. Plus if you look at Italy's auto and bike brands, NO country has a more impressive line up, and as many brands and in bikes 5 of the top 10 fastest are Italian.
ok thats nice that you love Italy so much but facts are facts and the fact is that Maserati's are overpriced junk. Im sure Italy is a wonderful country but the impression outsiders like me have is based on our experience with their products, and when i see a 100k+ car that literally begins to disintegrate after 30k miles and costs a fortune to fix, I immediately assume the people who built it are incompetent (or dont care and want to exploit their customers) which isnt a good look.
@@ilyarepin7750Uh, that's the past, look at Maserati's latest sales figures and profits, steadily up every year. And instead of believing all the clickbait titles go to multiple videos and see what owners say about their OWN experiences. and about the newer models. And if they're so "incompetent" Ferrari is the most powerful car brand in the world, most racing titles by far says what? And why would sales continue for all their brands if they "fall apart after 30K miles????" And why is Italy a top 10 economy, trading nation, wealthiest citizens in the world #2 industrial power in the EU,? Because people enjoy spending money on junk over and over for decades?? What experiences have you had with Italian products, some used vehicle not properly maintained then blaming the manufacturer? I imported Italian furniture and home accessories for decades and the customers returned over and over because of the exclusive quality, style, I could count on one hand the number of complaints and there was never anything major. Take a look at the comments on German car brand videos, the complaints are endless, only Porsche was reliable and lately has sunk in the ratings, BMW only lately becoming better. My "perfect" Accord bought new, always dealer maintained had engine problems at 80K and blew up on the interstate at 120K, constant costly repairs out of warranty. British, American, Korean brands have a terrible reputation. And who is exploiting, is Maserati forcing/mandating anyone to buy and people don't know what's in this video before buying? Try again, son.
I’m loving the Sandro inclusion for a non-realmechanicstuff episode! Got so excited when Miranda’s shop was on frame, knew exactly what it meant. A true G! Go donut!
I still remember my first job after college! Going to work using public transport, and while waiting for the tram, a guy was driving a Quattroporte to work every morning pass my station and he was ALWAYS hammering it. The screaming V8 gave me goosebumps EVERY SINGLE morning!! It always made my day
At a past job that was located on a very busy main road with an intersection like 500ft down the road. There were several maserati gran turismo V8s that would come by regularly and they were always aggressively downshifting for the red light and it sounded so glorious. Never gets old.
@@lesliereissner4711 Depends on the spec. This is a base model, so it is the V6, but the highest end one had a V8 making around 540hp. Those were also 140k new and I do believe they have dropped around the same amount in price. Just not 29k, but still would be an awesome deal for a nearly 550hp v8 that screams
Correction on the engine - That engine is based on a Ferrari F154, not the Pentastar V6 from the minivans. The F154 was in the California T, GTC4Lusso T, Portofino, Roma, 488 GTB, 488 Spider, 488 Pista, etc. The Maserati version that's in the Quattroporte GTS and Trofeo, the Ghibli Trofeo, and the Levante GTS and Trofeo are actually cast and assembled by Ferrari in Italy. The same engine can also be found in the Alfa Quadrifolgio products - that engine is cast by Ferrari but shipped up the road to Alfa for assembly. In the base and S Maseratis, the engine is cast in the US at a Chrysler facility and then shipped to Italy for assembly. All of those engines are F154-based, not based on the Pentastar.
@@71ala sorry, my mistake. Its actually worse. It's dodge's U connect. "The Ghibli uses a customized version of the Uconnect infotainment system found in other FCA vehicles like the Dodge Charger" In other words. It's utter trash.
@@71ala I don't hate Maserati at all, the amount of disrespect they put into their car for their customers is why their sales sucks. I love the GT, I love the Ghibli design, I love all the cars they make tbh. I even put a deposit for one, until I backed out thinking I don't want a dodge infotainment system in a Maserati. It ain't even hate, it's because you have to spend close to a f-ing down payment for a mortgage to get a utter trash experience
@@NBASFAN - The Ghibli and QP were built on a tight budget. The engineers were not allowed to develop unique dedicated infotainment systems as that would have added too much cost. All the money went into engines, gearbox, driving experience. And on that you can’t fault them.
Can I just emphasize the smile and joy the Miata brought her vs the more expensive cars. Goes to show paying more doesn’t always bring more happiness. It’s the memories and fun. Why I got into cars in the first place.
my supercharged Miata is my favorite daily driver I've had. just pulling onto a fast street and flooring the gas on my way to work makes the commute feel like a lot less of a chore. it's pretty much the closest you can get to riding a street motorcycle on 4 wheels
I own a Ghibli bought 4 years ago around $19k, still driving it today and love it. This was a great video and touches on good points. I wouldn't buy it at $85k, but all day at $19k.
I don't know, but it's like there are some luxury / sporty brands that feel like niche, but usually have a lot of "personality" for lack of a better word. Like, people with money will most likely buy ferraris, lambos, porsches... But very few will buy astons, maseratis or lotus to say some. I really like these niche brands, both maseratis and astons always sound superb and look like pieces of art, combining sportiness and luxury. And lotus has always been focused in the same formula of really low weight and small size, with a "regular" engine tunned and a very sporty chassis, that no other brand does (maybe except old TVR and even more niche brands). I think these brands deliver a unique and very specific experience that other more mainstream brand don't. I can't know for sure tho, never driven any, and I drive an E92 so... 😂 Btw, to the original comment, how's maintenance been? Genuinely interested, i would love a maserati (edited 2 fckin times this comment 🤣)
Can’t believe I didn’t see this sooner! I was the winning bidder on Carsandbids 2011 Maserati Quattroporte back in 2022. It was only $23k! It only had 28,000miles and smelled like an expensive Italian leather handbag inside! It’s a reasonable gamble being that it’s super depreciated. It has a solid super common ZF 6HP conventional automatic and an engine with no direct injection or turbos. Actual room for your hands! The Ferrari F138 4.7L NA V8 sounds and feels amazing!! 100mph feels like 60 lol. It’s the exact middle point of the speedometer. I did a full fluid overhaul, lanolin undercoat, washed and waxed it right on my driveway lol. Smiles for miles bros and gals 😎
"We know a good mechanic. Let's take it to him and see what he thinks". Please be Sandro. Please be Sandro. Please be Sandro. A wild Sandro appears. F YEAH
The only reasonable thing to do now is to do a long-term test. Let’s see how much routine maintenance costs, let’s see if anything major breaks. Let’s see if your opinions change.
If you like to turn a wrench, and can afford the downtime on the car really not a bad deal. timing, and turbo maintenance, wouldn't be that bad. Standard maintenance is expensive as you make it if you turn your own wrench. This could be a fun one to turn a wrench on and joy ride in the city. Long-term test results of major breakdowns are definitely needed.
I lease a Maserati for 3 years everytime since 11 years ago. Trust me when I tell you this. Starting the 3rd year you can tell lots of things need replacement soon. Because it is a high performance car, it runs the parts to the ground quickly just like a Ferrari or Lamborghini.
@@nonyabusiness3953parts are ridiculous. Doing your own labor barely helps. These things are nightmares to diagnose on top of it. There are zero redeeming qualities on these beyond a badge.
Depreciated for a reason. I had an s and it broke down a lot. Random Bubbles in the side windows, floor mats, touch screen, drive shaft on and on. 60k miles in two years. I did love driving it though and it’s one of the best communities of people. Its a great entry level car and people that buy them used tend to really appreciate it.
Her genuine laugh there when y'all are in the miata is lowkey adorable. I love how blissfully giddy people get when they're in a fast car it's always hilarious
Nah man. Most people know that the problem here isn't how good the car is, but how costly it can get after the first few years. Same reason why you can get a 10-15 year old Mercedes or BMW for like under $10K (at least in Europe). The car might look and drive great, but you then go to the mechanic for a regular check up and he charges you like $1000 because of the badge and the price of original parts.
Im from spain, I think really with German cars the problem more than the actual price of the pieces is if you go to the official service of the dealership is the hour rate of the dealership and their margin to the pieces, you can go to good mechanics and source the pieces and it’s cheaper. Also in Europe till now most German cars at least in Spain were diesel engines, there’s a fuck ton of 1.9-2.0TDI C220D and 318-320D so makes them abundant. Problem with a Maserati is that their pieces are less common, the engines are complex and not abundant and the pieces must be fucking expensive to get.
I loved the 2007 Quattroporte since I first learned what they were. I got one in 2017 , installed ACCUAIR airride and still love it today! No complaints!!!
I'm always bemused by comments like this. Rockstar went around CA and photographed a ton of places to get the real CA feel in GTA5, it's not the other way around. It's sortof like saying that the stadiums on FIFA looks straight up like stadiums IRL, it shouldn't be a surprise.
@@fh5kskalf those game companies are licensed to recreate the stadiums. Rockstar just makes parodies of places and uses likenesses. Doesn't mean that's exactly how it'll look in real life.
@@Adephx Fr, I bought a shirt, and it lasted maybe a year? until the stitching started to rip and the designs started to fade. I wanted the shirts to be good so bad. The quality is horrible. Go buy DLS merch instead lol
Sandro shops was an unexpected sight. It was cool to finally see a bit of his shop on the channel Edit: I'm using this comment because it has so many likes and people will see this. I want to start by saying they could have made this video before All this controversy came out so I will not attack them that harshly. But I looked into your sponsor of this video. And it does not look very good from all the news. Headlines about its shady business practices. I'm hoping you were ignorant to the fact. And this video was made long before these allegations came out. Better help has been known to sell your private medical information to companies. Even though they specifically say they won't breaking their agreement and supporting a company like this is just something I cannot get behind, especially as a member, giving you money every month. So I'm hoping you issue some sort of apology or take away this sponsored segment. Even though yes, I know you need money to fund videos. I'm sure there are other sponsors that do not involve these business practices that are frowned upon. Plus i've seen many talk about how their comments were deleted when they criticized your sponsor but you never seem to touch members' comments so i'm hoping mine sticks out because i've never seen you delete member comments before Second edit: I have researched further into it. And the FTC did rule that they did sell personal info two companies breaking their confidentiality agreement. They settled to pay out 8 million. But I cannot find where they paid this out too. but this confirms there alleged crimes. But to give them credit. They have sense made a better privacy policy and better security and a lot more transparent ways of working. But that still does not forgive past failures, but they do seem to be in the right track and direction to become a better company
I went to Germany in 2017 and intended on renting a BMW M series or Audi RS series. Once I got there the rental car company said "oh we are sorry, we just ran out of those...but we do have a brand new Maserati Ghibli to make up for it!" Thinking to myself "oh man...I've never driven one..how bad can it be?" After 9 days in the car....what a POS for the money. It was so bad that I didn't even film with it because I had literally nothing good to say about it at the time. Cheap materials, terrible steering wheel, Christmas tree dashboard, not great handling, and just boring. You can get so much more car for the money and cost to maintain. The Ghibli is the dream car of somebody who knows nothing about cars and just wants a badge. Okay rant over. Seriously don't buy one.
I know next to nothing about maseratis, but got to drive one a few years ago. Holy shit they are actually a scam imo. Everything was kinda shit or just boring. When i tried to use the entertainment system i thought it's a prank. Actually shit and almost impossible to use.
@@HARRYAZZHOLEyea, I was on my phone, and I wasn't hunting for it. Thanks for that though. Ahem: IF ANYONE WONDERED, HER NAME IS CHRISTINA. Thanks Harry. :)
@@Alan-fx9xb It's not that he's not necessarily "good", he probably is a very competent mechanic. I think he's just not super serious on the "Real Mechanics". He's seems like a pretty cool guy.
The most depreciated car by percentage is the Toyota Mirai Limited. They have a sticker price of $68,635 but they often resell for $10k or less after 1-2 years. Hydrogen costs $36 a Kg now so a full tank in a Mirai costs over $180 for about 300 real world miles. The free $15k fuel card they give you lasts less than 2 years for the average driver.
This is a good example. Since EV's have won, the refilling infrastructure for hydrogen is going away and these hydrogen-powered cars will be worth near 0 when they can't be refilled.
I had a Lyft driver who was driving a Maserati Quattroporte (2023 in New Orleans). It surprised me at the time, but with this video it now makes sense!
Was it silver? There's a guy who lives down the street from me in the 9th Ward who's been trying to sell his Quattroporte for years; he currently has it listed at $10k, down from $110k seven/eight years ago. I think he Ubers literally just to pay for the insurance.
I think that because of his weight loss his heart problems have subsided, im sure he is still on medications, but I remember all the times where he was in and out of the hospital and couldn't make content, and its been a while since that's happened
I worked at a Maserati dealer for about a year. 6 months as a Driver and 6 months in Parts and holy crap you're not joking about the maintenance costs. I saw the ROs, even basic stuff would put the average guy out of house. Brakes and rotors all around was about 1,500. Control arms had to be replaced all the time, 650 or so. Even an oil change was 150. Body panels cost a fortune. People would get them at auction, call us for maintenance, and then try to find a way to do the work themselves.
What procedures necessitated such insanely high oil change rates? Is there genuinely more work involved than an average car or is it just the dealer wringing out the yuppies?
how hard is regular maintenance? Is it a pain in the ass, take longer, and require proprietary tools? Or does it just cost a lot because it's a Maserati?
Do you really think that $1500 for brakes and rotors and 150 for an oil change is “expensive”? Not a single European car is any less than that. Brakes and rotors for a c63s amg at Benz is like 5500…i swear the people that talk about these cars and them being expensive to maintain and upkeep have never been in the market for or have never been able to afford anything luxury or high performance anyways. Just a way for them to excuse their lack of ability to afford a nicer car.
Yo when James said "luckily we know a good mechanic" i was like theres no way they put Sandro in, then i looked over at my phone and see "Mirandas" and im like yooooooooooo idk why i was surprised but that was dope tbh nice little cameo, if only theyd brought in Angelina?(sorry if i got the name wrong) it would be like top 10 anime crossovers of all time vibe lmfao
My dad bought an ‘03 Coupé GT a few years ago. He had a small exhaust mod put on it which made the car sound like a FREAKIN’ MONSTER with its 4.2 Liter V8 Engine. I love that thing so much! I don’t care what people say, I have an italian muscle car!
Crazily enough those are also the most reliable Maseratis to own especially if you find one with a manual because the engine is shared with the Ferrari 360
I have an ‘02 with paddle shifters. God I wish I could have found a GT. These cars bottomed out in price a few years back and are already starting to increase in value. In some countries they are already back up over $100k. These are investments at this point, and will be worth a lot in the not too distant future.
i think the snake eating its own tail metaphor is pretty accurate. with my 2010 535i bmw, it was depreciated down to 10k, and i paid more for insurance than i paid for the monthly on the car! insurance doesnt care if its cheap to you, its expensive to the mechanics so its expensive to them.
I purchased 2007 Quattraporte Executive GT ... the sticky button issue has been addressed... needs an antenna amp, 6CD works great Nav (uses 10 CDs no updates) system and graphic interface are very dated so it will need $1800 sound system to add car play usable nav USB bluetoothe and backup camera.... 4.2 v8 with 65k miles .... very clean paided under 13k... well worth it... but you must get the Wet sump engine (blue Valve covers) with the ZF trani as the F1 eats clutches if you use it in automatic mode... so get a 2007 or newer stay away from the Duo Select models in my opinion.- your mileage may vary..... drove 1800 miles home
I too have a 2007 Maserati Quattroporte and see the difference between it and "Newer" model Maserati's. I believe this is a better built car as owned by Ferrari starting in 2007. Thank you for your tips you are quite correct!
As a millennial used LaCrosse owner I felt a bit attacked when he said our generation doesn't like this kind of car because it is exactly my kind of car. GM usually had a mix of faux Jaguar/Lexus in mind with Buick styling over the years but a lot of the last LaCrosse sweepspear + porthole styling overlaps with this car.
You should get a ride in the previous gen, the Quattroporte V, especially with the 4.7 S trim. Big grunting NA V8, that revs like crazy, one of the best (if not THE) best designed luxury sedan, sporty handling. You got all the right ingredient for an enthusiast car!
The Quattroporte (V8 Series 1 especially) is a fantastic looking and sounding thing - I have always liked 'em. But being an Alfa guy, in late 2021 I bought the Quattroporte's smaller & more egalitarian cousin - a 2002 Alfa Romeo 156 GTA with the ultimate "big Busso" 3.2L 24V quad-cam V6 (the final iteration of Alfa's iconic Busso V6 and which supposedly had some Maserati engineering input). When new, it was the most expensive "mainstream" Alfa ever sold in Australia at the time with a list price of about A$100,000. It is also super rare - only about 2,600 sedans were ever built and only just over 100 were exported to Australia. I paid A$8,500. It's now done over 268,000km (including 45,000km by me in mostly peak hour commuting). It's been brilliant - and actually cheaper to maintain than the two Alfa 156 V6s I owned prior to that. Just did the first major unscheduled repair - clutch replacement which cost $3500 - but as far as I can ascertain its the only time the clutch has been changed, which is pretty bloody good after so many clicks. I know you folks never got the 156 in 'Merica, but I think it is possibly the best looking sedan of the last 30 years, the best handling FWD I've ever driven, and in GTA form still goes like stink (for a 22yo car anyway). Then there is the noise - the big Busso is the best sounding engine of anything with less than 12 cylinders... In summary, its the best car of +20 I've owned in 35 years of driving. So my advice is - yeah, if you see a "cheap" used Quattroporte with a full service history that has been loved and you know an independent mechanic who specialises in Italian cars (luckily I do - been taking my Alfas the same old Italian fella and his boys for the last 12 years), then buy it...
Maserati needs to be sold to either the VAG or BMW group for a clean sheet redesign. Stellantis and quality are not two words uttered together for anything they make.
Vag has too many luxury brands, BMW is like the next worst on the list when it comes to quality. Stellantis should just apply Ferrari standards for all the other cars they make.
Bought a 2014 Ghibli SQ4 5 years ago. Found a great deal with only 30,000kms on it. I daily drive it and put 120,000kms on it since. Just had to do brake job and regular maintenance. I love mine. Great in the Canadian winters too with the AWD.
back in 2018 i worked on a brand new gran turismo. the owner accidentally parked too far forward on a parking block, and we had to replace the ALL PLASTIC grill ($5000), the radiator and mounts, ($800), one headlamp($1600), the ac condenser ($600), and something else. then not too long after that we had to replace the Convertible top latch because a bolt from a leather trim on the tonneau cover fell into it. i found all the bolts for that trim piece hand loose. i would never own one.
I love mine. I got a 2015 Ghibli for like $27k in '22 BUT it had 92k miles on it. I daily it, and for 5 months had a 5hr round trip daily commute in that car. It now has 150k mi on it, and i have had to do NOTHING to it other than change the oil every 12k mi. I sold my bagged full size silverado show truck (my baby) to get it, and surprisingly am not upset in the least. Actually I am currently looking for a newer year model quattroporte or levante with the same TTv6, because I KNOW it's good for at least 150k mi ;)
I bought a 2005 quatroporte 4.2 V8 with 42,000 miles for $8000. When it was brand new and pre ordered, to build the same car, it was $169k. Crazy depreciation on Maseratis.
This theory would be more convincing if you could not walk to the moon on all the caveats that were said during this video. Save yourself a headache and stay away from fake Ferraris.
I work in a detailing shop that specialized for italian cars in Germany, and often got to work with Maseratis. And let me tell you that none of them, like really none of them in the time I first started until now are owned by someone who is below 60. There was one guy who brought a Levante to us, he was like in his 30. I greeted him and brought up this fun fact to him about our Maserati clients and he laughed and said that the car wasn't his it was also from his client. And yes holy fuck they are cheap interior wise. I don't know much about engine, but if you're buying something italian for the look you get almost the same build quality from Alfa with half the price.
I bought a Ghibli from the official dealer under a full Maserati warranty. Out of 6 months, it spent 4 in the workshop, spending more time with mechanics than on the road. I had to let it go under the same warranty. Heartbreaking? Yes. But even with the drama, it's undeniably an amazing car.
Bull crap. The motor is Chrysler 3.0 pentastar engine from your minivan, it’s identical . The just put different heads. Seen it with my own eyes when took my 2022 levante engine apart. The only thing was from Ferrari is the sticker and some factory sand that scored crank bearings
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What if I don't want my data to be sold
Betterhelp sells your data, and the therapists they hire aren’t always checked properly.
Rather vent to a wall, thanks tho
Don’t use better help
I kinda can't believe Donut is still working with Better Help when Better Help sells user data. If there was ever a business that shouldn't be selling user data, it's your therapist.
You serious? They regularly plug draft kings. They gotta advertise whatever their corporate overlords dictate
Worse yet, they got in a huge scandal because they weren’t vetting the “therapists” on their site. People with no certification or training could sign up to be therapists on there. So not only was a site nominally meant for therapy and helping those who need help selling user data, but they didn’t even ensure that the people hired to help the users even knew what they were doing. It’s like a su1cide hotline putting a caller on hold.
Monetization of customer data and meta data is one of the worst legacies of Google.....other than X-KeyScore I guess.
Never knew until now. That's wild
imagine getting targeted ads for rope and a chair
As a Maserati certified tech at a Maserati dealer. I will say I see way too many people buy these for cheap like this and get shell shocked when it needs work and realize they can't afford to keep the car running. And they definitely need work... alot.
What kind of work do they need? I have friends working as technicians at Maserati and they approve the current gens line-up reliability equipped with ZF-8HP, especially engine wise. The previous gens were a disaster.
Can you give more details?
Ballpark…how many Years and Miles before they need a bunch of work?
Thanks man, you’re a real one
That's basically anyone getting work done at any dealership that isn't under warranty.
the fact that Justin sent the Miata in circles on a public road kills me LOL
WHILE SHE WAS BLIND DUDE
It was most definitely in Mexico.
I was replaying that part just to be sure it wasn't a 90° or even a U turn 😂😂
Showing her all the luxury the Miata has to offer!
I said put loud, Sandro?
One of my best friends is a Maserati technician. He’s shared volumes of horror stories about reliability. The cars would routinely come in off-lease and there was SO MUCH wrong with them the dealer would send them straight to auction. Some unsuspecting dealer would buy them and send them back to the Maserati dealer for a repair quote. The quote was eye-watering, so back to the auction they would go to be resold. My friend would see the exact same car come in two, three, four times from the same auction. He would just save the original quote and reprint it numerous times.
You can quote me on this: “The Italians have a knack for building beautiful machinery that doesn’t work very well.”😂
BS...Italian craftsmanship in everything from autos, bikes, super yachts, weaponry, luxury goods, jewelry on and on is world renown and prized. How good are those German brands? Money pits with gadgets and 99% of the world's countries only dream of having Italy's brands.
@@spaniardsrmoors6817Then why are there so many more German cars than Italian cars in the U.S., given the country's strict safety and import regulations? Not saying I love German cars or that they're better than all other cars in terms of machinery, personally I like Japanese cars, but German cars do generally have a lot less issues than Italian cars. There's many more Italian brands in the UK, yet due to their bad rep it's not worthwhile to import cheaper-end models vs. cheap German cars are everywhere in the U.S. I'm sure if Italian engineering really was as good as you claim, Italian cars would be imported just as much as German cars, yet only people who have the money for the expensive luxury and super cars (not built to last a long time btw) deem it worthwhile because they have f-you money to throw away and they have god knows how many other cars if something happens to it.
@@syundown6005Main reason? Italians still haven't learned the art of organization and advertising their brands. Plus the Italian lifestyle for the most part doesn't always lend itself to having to sell, sell, sell and more, more, more money. They're more family oriented and into enjoying life more than the Germans and Japanese as that takes a toll on one's life. All you need to do is see the stress takes on the lives of Germans and Japanese, I've seen the videos, many of them are unhappy and have high rates of self-immolation. Italians don't and have been ranked as high as #1 healthiest country and usually stay in the top 10. They know how to balance business with pleasure, that's why they may not be the best in certain fields but are still able to be in the top 10 in economy, military, trading nation, wealthiest citizens in the world. Plus if you look at Italy's auto and bike brands, NO country has a more impressive line up, and as many brands and in bikes 5 of the top 10 fastest are Italian.
ok thats nice that you love Italy so much but facts are facts and the fact is that Maserati's are overpriced junk. Im sure Italy is a wonderful country but the impression outsiders like me have is based on our experience with their products, and when i see a 100k+ car that literally begins to disintegrate after 30k miles and costs a fortune to fix, I immediately assume the people who built it are incompetent (or dont care and want to exploit their customers) which isnt a good look.
@@ilyarepin7750Uh, that's the past, look at Maserati's latest sales figures and profits, steadily up every year. And instead of believing all the clickbait titles go to multiple videos and see what owners say about their OWN experiences. and about the newer models. And if they're so "incompetent" Ferrari is the most powerful car brand in the world, most racing titles by far says what? And why would sales continue for all their brands if they "fall apart after 30K miles????" And why is Italy a top 10 economy, trading nation, wealthiest citizens in the world #2 industrial power in the EU,? Because people enjoy spending money on junk over and over for decades?? What experiences have you had with Italian products, some used vehicle not properly maintained then blaming the manufacturer? I imported Italian furniture and home accessories for decades and the customers returned over and over because of the exclusive quality, style, I could count on one hand the number of complaints and there was never anything major. Take a look at the comments on German car brand videos, the complaints are endless, only Porsche was reliable and lately has sunk in the ratings, BMW only lately becoming better. My "perfect" Accord bought new, always dealer maintained had engine problems at 80K and blew up on the interstate at 120K, constant costly repairs out of warranty. British, American, Korean brands have a terrible reputation. And who is exploiting, is Maserati forcing/mandating anyone to buy and people don't know what's in this video before buying? Try again, son.
"Well, luckily, we know a pretty good mechanic" - it could ONLY mean ONE MAN... Sandro the legend!
Thing is... they know several but it can still only be ONE man.
bro , Is Sandro from country Georgia?
@@matemorchadze au mec mainteresebs ragac aqcentit mgoni shesadzlebelia mara arvici
@@spacy9571 xo tan mirandas shop io da mgoni qartvelebis gaxsnilia
Only certain mechanics have the skills to work on them.
I’m loving the Sandro inclusion for a non-realmechanicstuff episode! Got so excited when Miranda’s shop was on frame, knew exactly what it meant. A true G! Go donut!
I still remember my first job after college! Going to work using public transport, and while waiting for the tram, a guy was driving a Quattroporte to work every morning pass my station and he was ALWAYS hammering it.
The screaming V8 gave me goosebumps EVERY SINGLE morning!! It always made my day
I had not realized that this generation of Quattroporte has a V6. The previous one, built until 2012, with the V8 just sounded amazing.
At a past job that was located on a very busy main road with an intersection like 500ft down the road. There were several maserati gran turismo V8s that would come by regularly and they were always aggressively downshifting for the red light and it sounded so glorious. Never gets old.
@@lesliereissner4711 Depends on the spec. This is a base model, so it is the V6, but the highest end one had a V8 making around 540hp. Those were also 140k new and I do believe they have dropped around the same amount in price. Just not 29k, but still would be an awesome deal for a nearly 550hp v8 that screams
Yep, the sound is why you get a Maserati! It sends chills down your spine and a tingle in the dingles.
Correction on the engine - That engine is based on a Ferrari F154, not the Pentastar V6 from the minivans. The F154 was in the California T, GTC4Lusso T, Portofino, Roma, 488 GTB, 488 Spider, 488 Pista, etc. The Maserati version that's in the Quattroporte GTS and Trofeo, the Ghibli Trofeo, and the Levante GTS and Trofeo are actually cast and assembled by Ferrari in Italy. The same engine can also be found in the Alfa Quadrifolgio products - that engine is cast by Ferrari but shipped up the road to Alfa for assembly. In the base and S Maseratis, the engine is cast in the US at a Chrysler facility and then shipped to Italy for assembly. All of those engines are F154-based, not based on the Pentastar.
and then a GM infotainment system and parts, amazing Italian car.
@@NBASFAN - there is no GM in a modern Maserati, instead of throwing the usual Maseeati-hater crap you might do some research
@@71ala sorry, my mistake. Its actually worse. It's dodge's U connect.
"The Ghibli uses a customized version of the Uconnect infotainment system found in other FCA vehicles like the Dodge Charger"
In other words. It's utter trash.
@@71ala I don't hate Maserati at all, the amount of disrespect they put into their car for their customers is why their sales sucks. I love the GT, I love the Ghibli design, I love all the cars they make tbh. I even put a deposit for one, until I backed out thinking I don't want a dodge infotainment system in a Maserati. It ain't even hate, it's because you have to spend close to a f-ing down payment for a mortgage to get a utter trash experience
@@NBASFAN - The Ghibli and QP were built on a tight budget. The engineers were not allowed to develop unique dedicated infotainment systems as that would have added too much cost. All the money went into engines, gearbox, driving experience. And on that you can’t fault them.
Can I just emphasize the smile and joy the Miata brought her vs the more expensive cars. Goes to show paying more doesn’t always bring more happiness. It’s the memories and fun. Why I got into cars in the first place.
Well, except that the Miata probably has $50,000.00 worth of aftermarket upgrades in it by now too, so... :) But still, I'd prefer the Miata too! :)
my supercharged Miata is my favorite daily driver I've had. just pulling onto a fast street and flooring the gas on my way to work makes the commute feel like a lot less of a chore. it's pretty much the closest you can get to riding a street motorcycle on 4 wheels
It's all about those smiles per miles, boys!
“It’s more fun to drive a slow car fast then To drive a fast car slow” 👍
I'd say her smiles had more to do with the way Justin was driving the Miata.
0:48 did he just say “like drake’s big ole thang?”😭😭😭..nah im in tears rn😭
Was looking for this comment💀💀
He really just slid that in there and kept going like it was nothing
Eyyy yo 🤣
holy shit i thought i was just hearing things 💀💀
😂😂😂 best donut quote to date
I own a Ghibli bought 4 years ago around $19k, still driving it today and love it. This was a great video and touches on good points. I wouldn't buy it at $85k, but all day at $19k.
Makes you wonder, for someone who can afford 85k for a car...why they chose a Maserati
@@mattm7798because they dont know anything about cars and think they’re getting a bentley/porsche quality vehicle just cause of the badge
I don't know, but it's like there are some luxury / sporty brands that feel like niche, but usually have a lot of "personality" for lack of a better word.
Like, people with money will most likely buy ferraris, lambos, porsches... But very few will buy astons, maseratis or lotus to say some. I really like these niche brands, both maseratis and astons always sound superb and look like pieces of art, combining sportiness and luxury. And lotus has always been focused in the same formula of really low weight and small size, with a "regular" engine tunned and a very sporty chassis, that no other brand does (maybe except old TVR and even more niche brands). I think these brands deliver a unique and very specific experience that other more mainstream brand don't. I can't know for sure tho, never driven any, and I drive an E92 so... 😂
Btw, to the original comment, how's maintenance been? Genuinely interested, i would love a maserati (edited 2 fckin times this comment 🤣)
@@mattm7798I think the only people that buy a Maserati already have a lambo and ferrari and just get bored and don't know what else to buy
For 19k. Thats a steal.
Can’t believe I didn’t see this sooner! I was the winning bidder on Carsandbids 2011 Maserati Quattroporte back in 2022. It was only $23k! It only had 28,000miles and smelled like an expensive Italian leather handbag inside! It’s a reasonable gamble being that it’s super depreciated. It has a solid super common ZF 6HP conventional automatic and an engine with no direct injection or turbos. Actual room for your hands! The Ferrari F138 4.7L NA V8 sounds and feels amazing!! 100mph feels like 60 lol. It’s the exact middle point of the speedometer. I did a full fluid overhaul, lanolin undercoat, washed and waxed it right on my driveway lol. Smiles for miles bros and gals 😎
Wow im so interested in that,Sounds so cool
It was nice of yall to bring us on Justin's date with the producer.
That's what I was thinking. Justin really digs that girl lol.
😂 At least I'm not the only one who thought Justin was all in on that producer
Dude can I take the producer for a blindfolded test drive???
😂
I think we can all see the chemistry there😂😂
"We know a good mechanic. Let's take it to him and see what he thinks".
Please be Sandro. Please be Sandro. Please be Sandro.
A wild Sandro appears. F YEAH
He had a point until he started saying the car had coilovers and 22 inch wheels. He never knows wtf he's talking about.
Millenial ahh comment 😭😭😭
@@ferrarifast1429😭😭😭
The only reasonable thing to do now is to do a long-term test. Let’s see how much routine maintenance costs, let’s see if anything major breaks. Let’s see if your opinions change.
Routine maintenance isn't what makes this car more expensive to own. It's in-between routine maintenance.
If you like to turn a wrench, and can afford the downtime on the car really not a bad deal. timing, and turbo maintenance, wouldn't be that bad.
Standard maintenance is expensive as you make it if you turn your own wrench.
This could be a fun one to turn a wrench on and joy ride in the city.
Long-term test results of major breakdowns are definitely needed.
I lease a Maserati for 3 years everytime since 11 years ago. Trust me when I tell you this. Starting the 3rd year you can tell lots of things need replacement soon. Because it is a high performance car, it runs the parts to the ground quickly just like a Ferrari or Lamborghini.
@@nonyabusiness3953parts are ridiculous. Doing your own labor barely helps. These things are nightmares to diagnose on top of it. There are zero redeeming qualities on these beyond a badge.
I feel like Justin is the guy at work that people trust 100% within 30 seconds of meeting him. Dude is just really likable
How does his meat taste?
my exact thoughts when I first saw him on the channel lol.
But isn’t he black?
@@bluematic5322 SO?
@@bluematic5322Yup BBC
Depreciated for a reason. I had an s and it broke down a lot. Random Bubbles in the side windows, floor mats, touch screen, drive shaft on and on. 60k miles in two years. I did love driving it though and it’s one of the best communities of people. Its a great entry level car and people that buy them used tend to really appreciate it.
„Entry level car“ you ‘muricans are living on another planet. Over here in Germany we consider a 20 year old VW Gold an entry level car.
Her genuine laugh there when y'all are in the miata is lowkey adorable. I love how blissfully giddy people get when they're in a fast car it's always hilarious
Small quick cars feel fast and fun even though they are relatively slow. Something that 800 hp cars cannot give you.
@@jayflo714tbh I'd rather have an 800hp supercar rather than a small and "fun" Miata...ngl. No hate to Miata tho...👍
@@PureRythmYeah anything sub 3500 lb with 500+ hp will always feel funner than a Miata, the acceleration is its own thrill ride.
@@defyyourlogic487 that's what I am talking about!!
Donut single-handedly raised the value of this cars
Nah man. Most people know that the problem here isn't how good the car is, but how costly it can get after the first few years. Same reason why you can get a 10-15 year old Mercedes or BMW for like under $10K (at least in Europe). The car might look and drive great, but you then go to the mechanic for a regular check up and he charges you like $1000 because of the badge and the price of original parts.
Im from spain, I think really with German cars the problem more than the actual price of the pieces is if you go to the official service of the dealership is the hour rate of the dealership and their margin to the pieces, you can go to good mechanics and source the pieces and it’s cheaper.
Also in Europe till now most German cars at least in Spain were diesel engines, there’s a fuck ton of 1.9-2.0TDI C220D and 318-320D so makes them abundant.
Problem with a Maserati is that their pieces are less common, the engines are complex and not abundant and the pieces must be fucking expensive to get.
@@txcforever Thats why you have to know ppl. Damn BMW workshop wanted almost 2k for a job that my guy did for 150 bucks lol.
"My guy can do it cheaper"
Does not fill me with confidence, especially with performance cars.
Market manipulation?🧐😅
I loved the 2007 Quattroporte since I first learned what they were. I got one in 2017 , installed ACCUAIR airride and still love it today! No complaints!!!
Sandro's shop looks straight up like you're pulling into a GTA V shop
Exactly what I thought lmao
I'm always bemused by comments like this. Rockstar went around CA and photographed a ton of places to get the real CA feel in GTA5, it's not the other way around. It's sortof like saying that the stadiums on FIFA looks straight up like stadiums IRL, it shouldn't be a surprise.
@@fh5kskalf Well not everyone lives in CA or even the US believe it or not. In my country garages don't look even close to his shop.
@@fh5kskalf those game companies are licensed to recreate the stadiums. Rockstar just makes parodies of places and uses likenesses. Doesn't mean that's exactly how it'll look in real life.
Fun fact, GTA was based off him.
$75 for a screenprinted hoody is WILD
Some "exotic" brand selling it for 2 grand 💀
It's worse, because it's not even screenprinted, it's heat glued vinyl. Screenprinted designs last as long as the shirt itself does.
Donut is quickly becoming more and more detached from reality and their roots with their success.
@@Adephx Fr, I bought a shirt, and it lasted maybe a year? until the stitching started to rip and the designs started to fade. I wanted the shirts to be good so bad. The quality is horrible. Go buy DLS merch instead lol
@@SlapperGlutesTwice well they are owned by some big business, so its not surprising at all.
Sandro shops was an unexpected sight. It was cool to finally see a bit of his shop on the channel
Edit: I'm using this comment because it has so many likes and people will see this.
I want to start by saying they could have made this video before All this controversy came out so I will not attack them that harshly. But I looked into your sponsor of this video. And it does not look very good from all the news. Headlines about its shady business practices. I'm hoping you were ignorant to the fact. And this video was made long before these allegations came out. Better help has been known to sell your private medical information to companies. Even though they specifically say they won't breaking their agreement and supporting a company like this is just something I cannot get behind, especially as a member, giving you money every month. So I'm hoping you issue some sort of apology or take away this sponsored segment. Even though yes, I know you need money to fund videos. I'm sure there are other sponsors that do not involve these business practices that are frowned upon.
Plus i've seen many talk about how their comments were deleted when they criticized your sponsor but you never seem to touch members' comments so i'm hoping mine sticks out because i've never seen you delete member comments before
Second edit: I have researched further into it. And the FTC did rule that they did sell personal info two companies breaking their confidentiality agreement. They settled to pay out 8 million. But I cannot find where they paid this out too. but this confirms there alleged crimes. But to give them credit. They have sense made a better privacy policy and better security and a lot more transparent ways of working. But that still does not forgive past failures, but they do seem to be in the right track and direction to become a better company
I saw “Miranda’s Shop” and my life improved.
Absolutely! WAs definitely the highlight of the video to see Sandro at his shop. Very cool!!
It was like randomly seeing your old buddy at the grocery store in the nuggie isle.
Both in Cali too, must be similar shop looks
bro , Is Sandro from country Georgia?
That producer was such a good sport. Really enjoyed her portion of this video. Thanks Donut!
I went to Germany in 2017 and intended on renting a BMW M series or Audi RS series. Once I got there the rental car company said "oh we are sorry, we just ran out of those...but we do have a brand new Maserati Ghibli to make up for it!"
Thinking to myself "oh man...I've never driven one..how bad can it be?"
After 9 days in the car....what a POS for the money. It was so bad that I didn't even film with it because I had literally nothing good to say about it at the time. Cheap materials, terrible steering wheel, Christmas tree dashboard, not great handling, and just boring. You can get so much more car for the money and cost to maintain. The Ghibli is the dream car of somebody who knows nothing about cars and just wants a badge.
Okay rant over. Seriously don't buy one.
I know next to nothing about maseratis, but got to drive one a few years ago. Holy shit they are actually a scam imo. Everything was kinda shit or just boring. When i tried to use the entertainment system i thought it's a prank. Actually shit and almost impossible to use.
That was a ghibli
Grog House
Man, you had a lot of problems with that car. Thanks for keeping it real. 18:45
Welcome to Chrysler, baby!
2:05 Justin straight up has a superpower lmao, the butt dyno is infallible.
I simply cannot believe he didn't see the number at some point.
@@MEAREMLG he 100% did lol
Justin and the lady have such good chemistry! They were great!
They definitely doing physics experiments too
Dawg, Justin literally says her name at 8:00, Christina.
Well I mean historically their backgrounds do like eachother....
@@HARRYAZZHOLEyea, I was on my phone, and I wasn't hunting for it. Thanks for that though. Ahem: IF ANYONE WONDERED, HER NAME IS CHRISTINA. Thanks Harry. :)
@@Mr.Hopper1we weren’t wondering. You know you can edit comments right?
Weird comment, but Kristina seems like a blast to work with and just gives off happy vibes. More blindfolded interior reviews!
Everyone immediatly knew it was Sandro when James said "we know a mechanic"
Nah, I need some sleep. When i read your comment first things I heard were James May and Dacia Sandero
I wonder if anyone is going to call him just to say hi to Sandro haha
bro , Is Sandro from country Georgia?
@@ligametissame
“We’re gonna take it to a really good mechanic we know”
I swear it’ll be hilarious if it’s Sandro
*next shot is Miranda’s*
I died laughing
RIP
Why? I dont understand
@@Alan-fx9xb It's not that he's not necessarily "good", he probably is a very competent mechanic. I think he's just not super serious on the "Real Mechanics". He's seems like a pretty cool guy.
Justin dressed like he’s in an action movie, ends up being a Butt Dyno.
Sandro cameo!! A+, boys!
The most depreciated car by percentage is the Toyota Mirai Limited. They have a sticker price of $68,635 but they often resell for $10k or less after 1-2 years. Hydrogen costs $36 a Kg now so a full tank in a Mirai costs over $180 for about 300 real world miles. The free $15k fuel card they give you lasts less than 2 years for the average driver.
That’s about as much mpg as my TRX 😂
This is a good example. Since EV's have won, the refilling infrastructure for hydrogen is going away and these hydrogen-powered cars will be worth near 0 when they can't be refilled.
i have resold one of these 3 x on Copart for $1900, each time non pays. LOLOL
Shoutout to Sandro for always keeping it as real as possible
So sick going to Miranda’s shop!!! Awesome seeing sandros in his natural habitat!
5:08 I was like “please be Sandro”, the next scene made me very happy
i would prefer Angelina
Roillin' up in Italian, ferda boys
@@Jeffcrocodile Simp
bro , Is Sandro from country Georgia?
respect for james and donut after seeing his shirt. thank you for the union support brother👊🏻👊🏻people like you supporting the working man means a lot
The 'magazine scraps' transitions at 14:14 are pretty cool, nice editing.
I feel like them laughing in the Miata represents it pretty well lol
Love the relationship with the producer. Donut seems like a great place to work.
I had a Lyft driver who was driving a Maserati Quattroporte (2023 in New Orleans). It surprised me at the time, but with this video it now makes sense!
It does not make sense at all. You don't want to drive a high end luxury car as a rideshare driver, for a plethora of reasons.
@@henlo1910 Benz and Lexus only
Jefe, what is a plethora?
Was it silver? There's a guy who lives down the street from me in the 9th Ward who's been trying to sell his Quattroporte for years; he currently has it listed at $10k, down from $110k seven/eight years ago. I think he Ubers literally just to pay for the insurance.
James is looking healthy I love seeing his progress after the heart attack you look great I hope you’re feelin great man!
Can we talk about james’s transformation? James looks so much better now compared to some years ago!👏
He’s become so much more confident as a host too, we LOVE to see it 🎉👏
I think that because of his weight loss his heart problems have subsided, im sure he is still on medications, but I remember all the times where he was in and out of the hospital and couldn't make content, and its been a while since that's happened
I worked at a Maserati dealer for about a year. 6 months as a Driver and 6 months in Parts and holy crap you're not joking about the maintenance costs. I saw the ROs, even basic stuff would put the average guy out of house. Brakes and rotors all around was about 1,500. Control arms had to be replaced all the time, 650 or so. Even an oil change was 150. Body panels cost a fortune. People would get them at auction, call us for maintenance, and then try to find a way to do the work themselves.
What procedures necessitated such insanely high oil change rates? Is there genuinely more work involved than an average car or is it just the dealer wringing out the yuppies?
In australia thats how much a regular ford costs
how hard is regular maintenance? Is it a pain in the ass, take longer, and require proprietary tools? Or does it just cost a lot because it's a Maserati?
that sounds similar to maintenance costs for my bmw
Do you really think that $1500 for brakes and rotors and 150 for an oil change is “expensive”? Not a single European car is any less than that. Brakes and rotors for a c63s amg at Benz is like 5500…i swear the people that talk about these cars and them being expensive to maintain and upkeep have never been in the market for or have never been able to afford anything luxury or high performance anyways. Just a way for them to excuse their lack of ability to afford a nicer car.
12:54 No dude! I’m 17 and I absolutely love this masterpiece of a car. ❤
Yo when James said "luckily we know a good mechanic" i was like theres no way they put Sandro in, then i looked over at my phone and see "Mirandas" and im like yooooooooooo idk why i was surprised but that was dope tbh nice little cameo, if only theyd brought in Angelina?(sorry if i got the name wrong) it would be like top 10 anime crossovers of all time vibe lmfao
13:45 this is the kind of dialogue i like to see. does not seem scripted. is just chatting cars
"Pretty much a Chrysler."*
There. Fixed it for you.
I rented one a couple weeks ago… I felt like I was driving my grandpa’s Buick 👴🏼
This bro needs more than 0 likes bro
I love that the pull into Sandros looked like GTA
I love how this branched out to Sandro and Miranda's Shop. More of this please! Support those who support you!
More James and Justin content please!
I have a Ghibli SQ4 and have road tripped it from NY to FL 4 times in the last year…. With no issues and loved every minute of it.
You got very lucky. There are always exceptions to the rule
5:28 the sound of that door closing... blyeugh
God, I didn't realize how bad that was. That's a kill shot
Glad to see James finally looks just a tiny bit happy. He have looked pretty sad/burnt out in some time now
My dad bought an ‘03 Coupé GT a few years ago. He had a small exhaust mod put on it which made the car sound like a FREAKIN’ MONSTER with its 4.2 Liter V8 Engine. I love that thing so much! I don’t care what people say, I have an italian muscle car!
Crazily enough those are also the most reliable Maseratis to own especially if you find one with a manual because the engine is shared with the Ferrari 360
how has maintenance/parts been?
Sounds like best dad ever
I have an ‘02 with paddle shifters. God I wish I could have found a GT. These cars bottomed out in price a few years back and are already starting to increase in value. In some countries they are already back up over $100k. These are investments at this point, and will be worth a lot in the not too distant future.
That shirt and shades combo is EPIC, thought this was a cop buddy movie instead of a review! Someone greenlight Michigan Vice with these two
i think the snake eating its own tail metaphor is pretty accurate. with my 2010 535i bmw, it was depreciated down to 10k, and i paid more for insurance than i paid for the monthly on the car! insurance doesnt care if its cheap to you, its expensive to the mechanics so its expensive to them.
Ouroboros.
lol I got a 3 series too. My mechanic put it best. You buy it used but they’re not using used parts!!
10:21 might not be luxurious but those smiles per miles win. 😂
Smiler per gallon
Love seeing Sandro on the main channel always a treat
I purchased 2007 Quattraporte Executive GT ... the sticky button issue has been addressed... needs an antenna amp, 6CD works great Nav (uses 10 CDs no updates) system and graphic interface are very dated so it will need $1800 sound system to add car play usable nav USB bluetoothe and backup camera.... 4.2 v8 with 65k miles .... very clean paided under 13k... well worth it... but you must get the Wet sump engine (blue Valve covers) with the ZF trani as the F1 eats clutches if you use it in automatic mode... so get a 2007 or newer stay away from the Duo Select models in my opinion.- your mileage may vary..... drove 1800 miles home
I too have a 2007 Maserati Quattroporte and see the difference between it and "Newer" model Maserati's. I believe this is a better built car as owned by Ferrari starting in 2007. Thank you for your tips you are quite correct!
0:50 That goddamn drake joke is becoming my nightmare fuel
Right. I was like "DRAKE'S WHAT!!??"
Bro lost me there lol
i dont get it
Between the color, portholes and popularity with Floridians, I cant help but draw parallels to Buick.
Except a Buick is actually a good car
As a millennial used LaCrosse owner I felt a bit attacked when he said our generation doesn't like this kind of car because it is exactly my kind of car. GM usually had a mix of faux Jaguar/Lexus in mind with Buick styling over the years but a lot of the last LaCrosse sweepspear + porthole styling overlaps with this car.
@@ferrarifast1429i wouldn’t say good. They’re really among the average. I do like some of them though.
You should get a ride in the previous gen, the Quattroporte V, especially with the 4.7 S trim. Big grunting NA V8, that revs like crazy, one of the best (if not THE) best designed luxury sedan, sporty handling. You got all the right ingredient for an enthusiast car!
And that's likely a key reason it depreciated so much. There's a much better alternative that's just a few years older.
Ive got the QP5 4.7 Sport GTS, absolute beast!, yeah it's got it niggles, but it's italian lol
The Quattroporte (V8 Series 1 especially) is a fantastic looking and sounding thing - I have always liked 'em. But being an Alfa guy, in late 2021 I bought the Quattroporte's smaller & more egalitarian cousin - a 2002 Alfa Romeo 156 GTA with the ultimate "big Busso" 3.2L 24V quad-cam V6 (the final iteration of Alfa's iconic Busso V6 and which supposedly had some Maserati engineering input). When new, it was the most expensive "mainstream" Alfa ever sold in Australia at the time with a list price of about A$100,000. It is also super rare - only about 2,600 sedans were ever built and only just over 100 were exported to Australia. I paid A$8,500. It's now done over 268,000km (including 45,000km by me in mostly peak hour commuting). It's been brilliant - and actually cheaper to maintain than the two Alfa 156 V6s I owned prior to that. Just did the first major unscheduled repair - clutch replacement which cost $3500 - but as far as I can ascertain its the only time the clutch has been changed, which is pretty bloody good after so many clicks. I know you folks never got the 156 in 'Merica, but I think it is possibly the best looking sedan of the last 30 years, the best handling FWD I've ever driven, and in GTA form still goes like stink (for a 22yo car anyway). Then there is the noise - the big Busso is the best sounding engine of anything with less than 12 cylinders... In summary, its the best car of +20 I've owned in 35 years of driving. So my advice is - yeah, if you see a "cheap" used Quattroporte with a full service history that has been loved and you know an independent mechanic who specialises in Italian cars (luckily I do - been taking my Alfas the same old Italian fella and his boys for the last 12 years), then buy it...
Christina seems super cool! Love to see her on more.
Maserati needs to be sold to either the VAG or BMW group for a clean sheet redesign. Stellantis and quality are not two words uttered together for anything they make.
If they were sold to Toyota and be manufactured under Toyota standards it would be better .
Vag has too many luxury brands, BMW is like the next worst on the list when it comes to quality. Stellantis should just apply Ferrari standards for all the other cars they make.
Justin putting on the full suave Italian outfit while James is just chilling as usual - Donut gold. 😅
Santos has that face where he's like... "bro why u bring garbage to my castle?"
"Please be Sandro's shop, please be Sandro's shop." It was Sandro's shop. YES!
Bought a 2014 Ghibli SQ4 5 years ago. Found a great deal with only 30,000kms on it. I daily drive it and put 120,000kms on it since. Just had to do brake job and regular maintenance. I love mine. Great in the Canadian winters too with the AWD.
Any issues with it? I'm looking at a 2015
Nothing. Only advice I have is to find one that was well cared for.
back in 2018 i worked on a brand new gran turismo. the owner accidentally parked too far forward on a parking block, and we had to replace the ALL PLASTIC grill ($5000), the radiator and mounts, ($800), one headlamp($1600), the ac condenser ($600), and something else. then not too long after that we had to replace the Convertible top latch because a bolt from a leather trim on the tonneau cover fell into it. i found all the bolts for that trim piece hand loose. i would never own one.
I love mine. I got a 2015 Ghibli for like $27k in '22 BUT it had 92k miles on it. I daily it, and for 5 months had a 5hr round trip daily commute in that car. It now has 150k mi on it, and i have had to do NOTHING to it other than change the oil every 12k mi. I sold my bagged full size silverado show truck (my baby) to get it, and surprisingly am not upset in the least. Actually I am currently looking for a newer year model quattroporte or levante with the same TTv6, because I KNOW it's good for at least 150k mi ;)
bro, 12k oil changes is horrific. go to 5, my brother in christ.
we have a masochist over here, premature engine death awaits@@onlyfoolriding8223
As soon as you said "we know a good mechanic". In my head I'm like "please be Sandro, please be Sandro!"
It's a good thing they're pushing a therapy service in the video. Anyone who owns a Maserati outside of warranty is definitely gonna need one.
Those therapy services are a scam kinda like Maserati so it works out
thats $107k pre pandemic... Thats more like $130 to 140k today... I cant believe anybody bought that thing
Alright Donut production crew, that focus pull at 5:29 was magnificent. Huge bravo!
i like how at 1:30 they floor it and then scene switches to outside of the car and its just cruising 😂
hahaha can’t incriminate one’s self 😂
10:54 justin's perfect seth rogen laugh
The sound of the door at 12:05 is cheap even for 29k... However, all things considered, still a good deal...
You sound horrible with money dude
Amazing logic😭
Finally, we see Miranda's shop! That's a cool touch! Great video. Sandro is awesome. I love his personality. Keep up the good work!
donut just settling into the space that hoonigan left.
8:37 me tryna figure out which episode of Mr and Mrs smith is this
drake line hit me like a freight train😂
I really admire adrien broner for shifting from boxing to being a car reviewer, he even talks in a very smart way now, my mind is totally blown 😊😊😊
@10:07
Something makes me think it's not her first time saying this 😂
😂😂
8:46 A Black Man driving around a White Woman Blind Folded... Broad Day Light, What could go wrong...
😂😂😂 I didn’t even think about that but that is hilarious
Sandro needs to just take over the channel
I bought a 2005 quatroporte 4.2 V8 with 42,000 miles for $8000. When it was brand new and pre ordered, to build the same car, it was $169k. Crazy depreciation on Maseratis.
This theory would be more convincing if you could not walk to the moon on all the caveats that were said during this video. Save yourself a headache and stay away from fake Ferraris.
30k for a maserati???? THANK YOU FOR SHOWING ME MY NEW DREAM CAR
You could have way more fun with 30k
Nightmare maintenance.
Drake comment was mad sus
Mfs be cucks lol
I was thinking the same thing. Like did I hear that correctly
I work in a detailing shop that specialized for italian cars in Germany, and often got to work with Maseratis. And let me tell you that none of them, like really none of them in the time I first started until now are owned by someone who is below 60. There was one guy who brought a Levante to us, he was like in his 30. I greeted him and brought up this fun fact to him about our Maserati clients and he laughed and said that the car wasn't his it was also from his client.
And yes holy fuck they are cheap interior wise. I don't know much about engine, but if you're buying something italian for the look you get almost the same build quality from Alfa with half the price.
aber es funktioniert leider zu gut. Billiges zeug Teuer verkaufen und auf Luxus machen.
Die Leute kaufen es dennoch
Subtitles at 16:16 ☠️☠️☠️☠️☠️☠️☠️☠️
9:58 me too justin
Well the penguin drives it
I bought a Ghibli from the official dealer under a full Maserati warranty. Out of 6 months, it spent 4 in the workshop, spending more time with mechanics than on the road. I had to let it go under the same warranty. Heartbreaking? Yes. But even with the drama, it's undeniably an amazing car.
30K ? that's cheap...
Bull crap. The motor is Chrysler 3.0 pentastar engine from your minivan, it’s identical . The just put different heads. Seen it with my own eyes when took my 2022 levante engine apart. The only thing was from Ferrari is the sticker and some factory sand that scored crank bearings
Producers and writers are taking this channel’s shows to another level.