#8 JOHN FLORENCE ON THE DARK SIDE OF WORLD TITLES, SPONSORING YOURSELF, AND SURFING YOUR BEST!
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- Опубліковано 30 вер 2024
- Episode 8 goes down! We have our second guest on the show John John Florence, two time world surfing champion, widely considered the best surfer on the planet, creator of one of the greatest surf films ever made View From a Blue Moon, nates brother and koas long time childhood friend, an epic conversation about the dark side of winning world titles, surfing under your own brand starting your own company and surfing your absolute best! @JJF @KoaRothman @NathanFlorence
we all know John's surfing but it's rare to listen to how he thinks. really cool. good job Koa and Nate!
That was more enlightening, more satisfying and more fun than anything that has come from the WSL. You guys are killing it. Thank you.
100%.
John is the ambassador of the surfing community in Hawaii he represents well super humble on Land Fire 🔥 in the Water 🌊
By far. You can't script this.
I have your lastname but with one P. Is it the same?
Agreed, I am completely unable to listen to the WSL
Nate's interview notes on a "I ❤️ A$$" sticker! Priceless!!!
Great questions from Koa as usual, great humour from Nate, and a rare chance to take a look at the human JJF. You've done it again boys! This is GOLD 🏆🙌✨️🤙
psyched! love to see john on long conversations. nates humor is gold! props to koa on asking questions that has a bit more grit! SUBSCRIBED
Only Koa and Nate could get a decent interview out of John. It’s a very cool convo. Thanks for doing this! Eddie Rothman next!
There's a great one on UA-cam with John and Jordie Smith, talking about the tour etc. Really cool
3 Major League Legends. Salute. Blessings. Once were just a group of small grom kid’s who grew up there and ripping when they were little and now have become Major player’s.
Not that long ago. So cool that they grew up and have so much footage of it
I remember seeing their little gang several times walking up and down Ke Nui past my homeys driveway as kids and my homey always saying, those kids are freakin badasses brah. Man he wasn’t kidding. 59-163 forever 🤙🏻🤙🏻
❤Love seeing how Florences indirectly honoring how your mom brought you guys up (in contrast, as a boomer who hated school, Waialua High, … ditched to surf or staring out window day dreaming … as my parents not present and abusive, so ocean was my only amazing grateful refuge) … and why I have loved seeing thru you guys what a great job your mom did! WHY I so love you guys! You guys are the wayshowers to new generations coming up ❤ Great blessings to your mom 🌈🥰 And have loved checking out John’s out there of him mind art videos … sooo much creativity … as a great balance to being a huge athelete. And loving hearing these great memories for all of you … 😂… lots of awesome wisdom John has realized for himself
The mention by John of competing with Kelly for so many years brought me back to the fact they were a big reason why my wife and I moved from Seattle to Hawaii. I was a Florida surfer (2nd Light & The Streets in Cocoa Beach) and of course, I was a Kelly fan. So when my wife got us a free trip from Seattle to Hawaii in 2011, I said ok, but it had to be during Pipe (which we drove to every day from Honolulu and saw every heat from start to finish)...and so we got to see Kelly and John in their Quarterfinal Heat 2 matchup. I told my wife (a Seattle girl who had never before seen surfing) that these two were The Best and The Future Best and that this was an epic matchup. It was a great heat, Kelly winning on, I think, his last wave. And so between the crowd roaring on every wave, and the high quality of surfing in big Pipe waves, she said, "now I know why surfing means so much to you." Between that amazing week of surfing and then the next week which we spent fishing for o'io on Moloka'i, we decided to move to Moloka'i, which we did in 2015...so thank you John...and thanks to Nate and Koa and team for these truly enjoyable podcasts...Dal J
I surfed 2nd Light once. It was by Patrick AFB. My main spot was New Smyrna. It's not Hawaii, but I had fun surfing the East Coast.
Such wise words from JJF. The realisation after achieving the goal of world champion, "it's all about the process." It's all about the journey, not the destination.
Preach brother!!! ✨️🙏🙌🙏✨️
As the dude who requested the interview with the Florence mom a while back, just wanted to say thanks for touching on your upbringing Nathan and John. Interesting insights, and I hope to lean into what my kids get into too. Mahalo
Such an awesome interview ! I think that he definitely feels more comfortable interviewing with you guys than for an anonymous interview so he's more open in his answers.
The pod is fire ! Keep it up !!! 😛🤙 🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥
Excellent podcast! How about a podcast with John and Nate's mom?
Yep.She would have the stories.
You have no idea what it's like to get up at 0530, check the phone, and see a NEW Podacst Episode has dropped AND it has special guest JJF ✨️🙌✨️🙌✨️😍✨️
You guys are the freaking BEST! Now I get to sit with you legends and catch up while everyone else sleeps.
Massive gratitude and respect from the UK, you make Friday mornings ROCK! 🤙✨️🙌
Need to have a Rat Pack podcast. Be cool to see 10 years later and how everyone has come along
But will Ivan actually talk this time 🤣🤣🤣
I learned from mixed martial arts and other sports, Navy missions and maneuvers, that the key to performing at your best, after and aside from the work to develop the skills, is to be completely relaxed, getting into that zone..Which is the hardest battle, it's really you battling yourself, and whoever masters their mind the most complete, can perform the best when it counts..When it's life and death, you can get into slow motion mode, when your senses catch every detail, which is next level freaky...
Well said and so very true..applies to any sport!
Right on the money except I don't think it has to be life and death to go into slow motion. It happens every time I get barreled or the rare occasion I feel like attempting airs!!!
so true, in heavy water situations being calm is key
John is so likeable. Really thoughtful guy.
This was hands down the best ever interview I've ever heard with John. And every second of it was interesting from all of them. Like hearing John's perspective on no longer starting at pipe. (Although he didn't go as far as I would have and said what a joke that one day win a title thing is). And I've always wondered how he really felt after that title. It seems like it's similar for many people. Like he and Tyler went back to back, then she was I'll and John was injured for so long. And Medina seems to be struggling with it. Kelly, I think just thrives on winning even more than surfing. Like the way he basically got back in the game to beat Andy. Or for awhile seemed to make John that focus. It made me a little sad when they talked about how they all hung out all the time -- I know those must have been some of the best times for them. And the bike story was hilarious. I hope John stays healthy this year. Having him on tour is the only reason I watch it. Once he's out, I don't watch the rest of the comp. He was so switched on at pipe. The judges screwed him on that one. Oh and when they were talking about great heats John has been in, I wish someone had brought up the last heat Taj Burrow ever surfed professionally -- with John at cloudbreak. I think that was my favorite heat ever because the great waves were nonstop and both of them were so switched on it was insane. I go back and watch that often. I can tell that John is in it for the surfing this year, like he said, just trying to let go and really surf at your peak freely. I'd love to see that strategy win instead of some of the guys who are much more into winning than surfing, including playing stupid games with hassling and blocking.
Great job koa and Nate on an A+ interview
Here is the heat against Jaime... ua-cam.com/video/Ee7uK724DdQ/v-deo.html
I love how it’s so casual, someone walks by and there talking to them. Just love the chill vibe
Wasn't that JOB?
Think it was Pyzel, Koa’s house and he’s right next door. Plus I think I heard one of them say ‘another John’
This was one of the best podcasts I’ve every listened too, big respect guys! 3 legends🔥🤙
This is gunna be a huge pod, love the content 🤙🙌
John’s X factor is the fact that his wave IQ is so much greater than the rest. Makes sense that the boys may not realize that/ bring it up because you guys grew up together, but from an outsiders perspective, it’s everything
wave IQ such a cool concept
Super cool boys another great vlog.
I love seeing the friendship and comfort of it.
Keep up the awesome work.
Nate loves Association. Not secret anymore. Koa loves surfing and John loves destroying the other competitors. I love you guys and Kelly and Jaime. So do a podcast with them too!
Fascinating insights from JF on competing. You forget how much elite athletes give up. Love these clips 🤟🏽🙏🏽
Keep it going boys! You’re onto something that NOBODY ELSE is doing
Yeah the boys unreal insight from John and always a fucking laugh keep it up legend's!
This is just a magic Vlog friends catching up so great Nathan Koa and John
Aloha from the Highlands of Scotland 🏴 ❤🤙
You guys are crushing it! Keep up this approach. I love it when the conversation rolls into your old stories and hearing about all the good times. Going to be visiting in 3 weeks and can't wait to hang out on the North Shore and get some pictures. Heading over to Koa's site to get my This Is Livin shirt! :) Nate:Thought you had some good notes for today's podcast, til you turned the sticker over. 🤣😅 Keep it rollin boys and good to see you back in the water Nate.
John you were robbed at Pipe, you shoulkd have got 15 out of 10 on that Unicorn wave you caught!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Love these podcasts, but a higher quality mic is desperately needed
really? i can hear them fine.
Such a good episode obviously a natural flowing conversation but peppered with deeper questions
BREADSTICK WARRIORS
Best candid discussion/interview I have ever seen with John
Another fantastic show. Learned a lot. Thanks again you guys!
What John and Nate were referring to with respect to education is known as "experiential learning" which is a child's education that supports each individual child's interests and inclinations.
In ancient Hawai'i children were apprenticed or tutored to kumu who instructed them in their area of interest by having them follow and observe their daily routine.
Thank you guys for getting John in there especially at this early part of CT. Even aside from the new format which seems to put inordinate amount of pressure on the surfers, the competition seems FIERCE this year. I think John has raised the bar for everyone over the years.
I ❤️a$$? 🤣
We the people need to see these home movies
Get Mike Stewart on! =) Awesome episode guys!
… such a pleasure to listen. These guys are amazing … they really are.
I love the absence of giant podcast mikes blocking everyone's faces. Wondering who gets e bikes on the "from the bikes" eoisode.
Maybe you guys could fly to a CT event and interview a random competitor through the season??
Awesome to see good friends talking about life though. It's like therapy that all men need. 👍🏽
Hey I'm not saying you boys should sell out or anything but it's almost criminally under promoted that Johns company got brought up but the name of it wasn't mentioned, he's wearing the brand but any casual fan watching will be left clueless.
i dont get all the mic comments--i can hear them fine....and who really wants the big mics on the table?
I was trying to get a "Media arts school" set up at the surf ranch and build it around the science, technology and media related to of surfing . Surfers can get really smart studying waves etc. Still a good idea but maybe Hawaii needs that more.
Good to see the boys just kicking it. Day job….check! Thank you for all you do!
Nice episode guys! You should put a link in the description to JJ brand website. (Suggestion)
That was cool. A bunch of smart, successful young men who are making the most of their lives.
More chill chats with John please, hi from Argentina.
These 3 are humble surfers,who surf big waves and surf well.million respect for all you guys! Very inspiring !🤙🤙🤙🙏😊
That E-bike story between John and Nathan was hilarious 🤣
That's the most words I've ever heard JohnJohn say.
Excellent!
"The process is the best part" In Life
Now Ivan with a bass guitar impersonating Lemmy from Motorhead! 🤣
Rare john john interview
i wish you had better mics so we could listen a litle bit clearer. love to see you 3
best podcast ever, like hanging with your bros and they just happen to be some of the best riders in the world~
I don't know if anyone noticed because John is the best surfer in the world. But Nate I want one of those stickers.
Wow just amazing. loved the part about education! Actually, the whole thing was education. I am alot older to hear you talk about Kelly was mind blowing. I remember him at 16 years of age, one day sitting under a lean too with Hogen boys and his brother in front of Pipe watching him at Eukai sand bar. I just knew I was watching a world champ in the stages. Life just fly's bye I remember all you kids running around now look at yah. I had a little run myself but in skiing. I was the 7th man for NCAA division 1, 4 years then assistant coach. Lot of those kids went to ski schools but walking on a division 1 school not a easy task being raised your whole life in Hawaii. Being Dyslexic on top of that, to hear you guys were just getting through high school and to see how you started in filming and camera's just wild. The vlogs, how you all started playing around with film. I too got into Photography before Covid sold 210 photos feels good. What your mom put you guys through most have no idea how hard it is to raise your kids on the North Shore. I was a Hawaii Kai brat myself. We all had our mentors, guys like Mike Garrity and women like Wendy Moore was mine when it came to learning breaks like Piko's and Kikos you guys must have had so many uncles Aunties to teach you the ropes. Love the podcast. You will sit back years from now with this footage and go wow we gave people a look at what it took to be a world champion most never get that. Thanks you!
That was soooooooooo epic loved every second the right questions were asked👏👏think even Koa had some Ah ha moments and has something he could contemplate….I have some design suggestions please make a zip up hoodie with a pocket that fits a large iPhone so that it doesn’t fall out easily that drives me crazy I always where a pullover hoodie bc it has a large pocket but prefer zip up hoodies trust me it’s a thing my friends and I have discussed/complained about this many times…. So nice to see you all interacting together 😁🙌🙌
Awesome video. On a related note i got my OK catalog in the mail and Mahina is proudly modeling all the lady gear. Pretty cool how this tiny community of surfer-owned companies works where Nates wife can model the other guys clothing line and its all chill. I like stuff from both companies OK and FM, expensive gear but you know each item there is a lot of thought around design, functionality, durability.
This was Awesome!!! Great conversation Boys!
That was the best! To be able to sit at the table with you guys and hearing first hand chatting is awesome! Thank you!
Great video guys ! Love the new channel with Nate and Koa !
WSL is crap now, work your ass off all year to be in the yellow jersey and hand the championship to someone who squeezes into the top five and has a good day in Cali even though you are thousands of points ahead. Yes I’m talking about Riss… she is the world champion. Now they went dudes that identify as women to surf against women. WHAT A JOKE!
That whole trestles thing makes a complete mockery of the tour.
That was cool.... John is way cool.. shoot, they're all cool.
You guys should do this with John every time he comes back home after the tour events.
👍🙏👏Had to go watch Volcom PipePro 2012 Jamie vs JohnJohn Heat. Such a Killer Heat! Congrats JJ. Really enjoy the show guys! Keep up the awesome job!
Go find the one, if you haven't seen it, of John surfing Taj Burrow at cloudbreak. It was the last heat of taj's professional career, the waves were firing like mad, and John and Taj were both surfing insane. It's on UA-cam still.
We need a "like" counter,
I wonder how many times "like" was said during this podcast LOL
JOB on the vlog!!!!!!!!!
Awesome how you guys talk about being passionate about something…I always told my kids follow your passion no matter what it is
Best John "not John John" Florence interview ever. Talking story with his bros. Nice.
Awesomeness coooool stuuuuff staaaartingggg a Podcast!!!!!!!
the guest we all wanted. thanks guys. love the casual vibe but might suggest a better setting/backdrop.
1989 watched Kelly compete at Budweiser Huntington. On cable TV. He was so amazing..stood way out
Koa Smith on the podcast
Chicken joe approves
Jordy will be the best surfer to never win a world title, but is a soul surfer like John and Mick and Joel and Taj. He's earnt his place amongst the greats.
Hey boys just got home from work and I pop on the tube and yes! Big John is on firing! Although he should’ve been episode 12 and you guys should’ve done something special for the guy joining in on cast! Haha Nate diggidy dog so glad to see you’re back out there! Koa I’m still thinking about the localism! I think You guys are in your prime and at the point that you should think about enforcing a bit according to the times now. Or just turn Nate loose on em UFC style 😂 seriously a great podcast today! You guys have me cracking up. It’s great to watch you guys cool and relaxed having some chuckles. One thing I’ve learned in life is that the magic in achieving goals lies in each moment along the journey! That’s where it’s at! All an inside job. And hey, if you snag a few world titles along the journey, so be it! Lol All of you guys have terrific success because of one another. Cheers 🍻 🏄♂️ 🌊 🤙
Sometimes surfers have the best perspectives. The ideas that they discussed could literally improve education and provide better mental well-being.
I absolutely love how you guys do this podcast. What an awesome , true and genuine podcast. John Florence, the best surfer of his generation, bar none. He will win this year.
He’s great but not close to Medina
@@jonathonmurrison939 ya a comp surfer to scared to do other things like john
@@markpuebla8022 he’s a 3 time world champ and John John is probably number 2 or 3 but air game Medina, back hand Medina, barrel riding even. In terms of winning heats it’s not close and that’s not a knock on John John
@@jonathonmurrison939 Medina is great, but John John has something called an IT factor that no one has. John John is like the Michael Jordan of surfing, while Medina is Lebron. Different styles, but one is a muse on waves and is part of the wave, while the other fights the wave. No one surfs like John Florence. About World titles. JJF would have 6 by now f not for injuries. Go see where he ranked when injured.
@@SasoCasablanca63 I’d argue Medina is more like MJ and JJF is way more like Lebron. Medina is just as completive if not more competitive than people people like MJ and Kelly Slater. Also Medina’s already been in 3 pipe masters finals and he didn’t grow up surfing the wave and definitely has the IT factor
Great episode!! You're both great at facilitating solid conversation.
Jaja. Did you finish ? Jajajaja…
One of your better podcasts super genuine and fun to listen to, keep it up guys. You should get a mic setup though the audio gets a little annoying when multiple people talking at once and harder to listen if not also watching.
You need to have Kelly on with John back for it. It would be the go back on comp vs free surf mindsets. Got to have Makua & Jamie too. Also it would be awesome to have Shane Dorian on with him going from comp to Hollywood making “In God’s Hands” to being the GOAT of big wave surfing.
Yeah that’s called all Asian countries fellas. To the point where the kid even if they hate what they’re doing they’re still going to be doing doing that because they’re great at it.
Nathan koa John thank you 😃🤙 opening thoughts on schooling absolutely agree, mum Florence is a smart woman 🤙
John just spelled everything that’s wrong with the modern education system. Very few people are learning anything they are interested in… and we think that the problem is with the kids???
Deeply enjoyable and incite full
This video was soooo good! Informative, interesting and you guys are frikkin hillarious as usual....love you guys!
I'm a huge JJF fan. If he was a more competitive person he would've been 10x by now. 🤙
I freekin LOVE these guys. They bring me so much vicarious joy. Thank you 🤙🌞
Nathan, you probably won't see this but if you do try reading the book "Range: Why Generalists Triumph in a Specialized World" by David Epstein. It's mainly researched based and contradicts your brief thoughts on schooling. Simply put, it may give you a different perspective on education.
Thanks for posting this. It is a fascinating topic. I will check out that book. I would argue that many careers are simply not understandable at a young age, and so kids need to develop in a broad sense educationally to get to a point where they can ever find those careers.
There is a book called "The Goldmine Effect" by Rasmus Ankersen and I have seen how kids can develop incredibly in a specialized academy environment (in this case soccer). But if they do that to such an extent that they don't play other sports, they often lack physical development skills that would have contributed to their specialty. So good programs encourage multisport ABCs.
There is also the aspect of early vs late developers, and that can be in various ways, but the big one in sport is physical (even just timing of growth spurt). Often there is a bias towards early developers, when sometimes late developers, when trained equally and not filtered out of the system due to size, are superior long term.
I think there is a balance between supporting kids in what they enjoy, but also encouraging them to become broadly educated. That way, if and when their interests change, they can adapt and still draw from what they learned in other areas.
@@jamesroscoe7555 I will check this book out. Judging but what you've written so far, I think you will find the Range fascinating and quite agreeable.
@@vanmelum I think finding the right balance between depth and range is key. If I had exclusively developed based on my 10 year old interests, I would have become a professional football player. I didn't even discover surfing until my 20's and it is much more engaging for me now than football. And I sure didn't have any interest in quantum mechanics when I was 10, haha. If I were to ask most of my peers in science and engineering if they thought they'd be working on what they are working on now when they were 18, in most cases the answer would be "no, didn't even know it existed". For academic pursuits, a lot of development happens at the university level. Not for everyone, but it would be a shame to close the door early imho. I'm glad I didn't become an NFL player.
I don’t wanna scroll through 200 comments…but if you support your kids 100% no matter what does that mean a LGBTQIA + kid?
I saw John John while at the Pipe Masters 2003. I think he was 11 at the time. I remember him being surrounded by a bunch of Japanese girls after a session. He just got out of the water, and they were right there waiting for him.
Awesome podcast, keep it going. It would be cool to hear you guys talk about the biggest mistakes you see from beginner/intermediate surfers. I would pay a premium for that episode haha.
Guys please get better audio😂absolutely love everything you’re doing besides that
Your views on education are not completely unfounded, but please consider a few things when discussing it: 1. You actually have very limited education, and zero experience in teaching, 2. You are incredibly fortunate to be gifted with talent levels that that less than 1% of all people have, and 3. You were very fortunate to find a means of earning a living by doing your favorite thing. This is not an option for most people.
That being said, I completely understand the idea of supporting what kids are interested in, but the reality is that kids are immature and not ready to make life determining decisions. This is the idea behind a comprehensive education. Even if one is not an expert in a field, knowing something about many things gives kids experiences and a base of knowledge that can help them make decisions later in life and hopefully sort through the bull sht so prevalent online and in the media. Super stoked that you have been able to carve out a living and become one of the greatest surfers of all time, but don’t ever forget how blessed you are and that the rest of us have to find a way to carve out our own success with far less ability and opportunity. Good luck to you all, and keep exploring the idea of education.
I am enjoying your podcast, but in order to get more subscribers you guys need to invest in some good microphones. I dig the casual set up but the amount of echo is really distracting when trying to hear different people speak. I’m sure you guys are all over this because this time next year you will have 100K subscribers, hopefully. Keep it up.
That was so good ! That hill climb with john and Nathan was hilarious !
wow just watched the latest pod, the RODE mic makes a massive difference