its mentioned before due to his religion he doesn't believe in birth control. other than that his wide states that she's only afraid of disappointing him and going against religion and that he's never hurt her and is actually a good person. if anything it shows how damaging religion can be to families.
She's afraid to tell him because she doesn't want him to feel guilty for going against what their religion says, not out of fear from him, but out of love FOR him.
He SHOULD feel guilty. If his faith tells him to put stress and pain on the woman he’s supposed to love and care for, then screw that part of their religion. HE can get a vasectomy then!
@@mooony22 What are you yapping about 😂 Religion is the best thing for family's and overal people Its not Religions fault the women cannot communicate with her husband like they should in every relationship The women is in the wrong for not sitting down and talking with thr husband
Karev violated doctor patient privilege and his hypocratic oath. He'll be the type of doctor that requires women to have their husband's permission to get starilized before doing the procedure.
@@hel_9155she doesn't have to sign anything to ask for or want a procedure. She even literally expresses her gratitude several times, even while betraying her doctor. Watching the clip fully is so easy. As is shutting up
@mervynlarrier9424 She does have to sign, and that is where the doctor failed. Even in secrecy, she needed to sign a consent form for the procedure stating the expected outcomes and some "actual" complications of the procedure. I'm a nurse and have had to do this for EVERY procedure the patient needs or wants.
@@mervynlarrier9424she does have to sign... it's called "informed consent" and the paperwork is what supports that. She got in trouble precisely because she went cowboy and acted rashly. Out of sympathy for the patient, yeah, but ultimately recklessly.
"Your ass is mine until I said otherwise.... congratulations." Addison Montgomery.. Those lines were so seductive and threatening. She had Karev's big ball. No Izzie, Meredith, Cristina nor George even the Nurses to save him. 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣
@@Isabella-xu3plHow? If your religion says you can't have an honest conversation with your spouse about something as important as the number of children you have, your religion is trash and you should leave.
thats why you never trust the patient, no side favors, do it right by the book, they can turn against you anytime especially younger patients especially OB patients
thats why you never trust the patient, no side favors, do it right by the book, they can turn against you anytime especially younger patients especially OB patients
I'm glad I saw this comment because I am planning on becoming a nurse and honestly never put 2 and 2 together. But you're right. No matter what you have to do everything by the book and on record.
@@sebastiandiazacosta8329she only told him there was a complication telling him this child is the last out of the 7 or 8 they already have. It was the male doctor who insisted of him getting a lawyer literally saying it wasn’t a complication but her tube got tied.
That kind of thinking has k1lled millions of people in the OR. Laws are made by the science you know at that moment, laws will be broken and changed all the time because medical information will always change and contradict itself.
The patient is a coward. If she was honest and forthcoming to her husband the doctors wouldn't have had to break the law for this coward. The doctor obligation is to the patient but not so much as to break the law.
She didn't document the procedure for what it was. That made her and the hospital liable. It was a tubal litigation and in reality, they would have been able to have it done without the husband knowing. There is no way a doctor would be okay with doing this. They'd for sure lose their medical license @@violettippet5246
Neither of them were in the right on this. Alex should not have interjected himself with Addison or the patient's spouse, and Addison should never have involved Alex in her attempt to defraud the patient's insurance.
She paid for it? Because clearly her husband forcing her to be a baby making factory but Alex decide to snitch and cause for lawsuit even tho the wife consented
People act like she wasn’t putting everyone’s career on the line not just hers. Totally with Alex on this one. It was selfish to ask that from someone just because you don’t know or how to talk to your partner about your concerns.
I'm with Alex with this one. And not because I hate Addison, cause even if it was someone else, I wouldn't be able to accept what they did. I actually haven't liked Alex that much either, but I'm definitely on his side with this one.
I actually agree with Addison. The mother ASKED her to do this. She has 6 children....this was number 7....and she's exhausted. She doesn't want anymore children and she wanted Addison to make it so, and she told Addison specifically that her husband couldn't know. Addison's right....their duty is to the patient. Not the husband. Just because the wife is now such a coward that she can't tell her husband the truth, doesn't change that.
@Kat J The patient asked her to lie. Bailey is right (she didn't say it in this particular case but with one for Meredith) Its doctor PATIENT confidentiality. She is not required to heed the husband's wishes....she is required to heed her patient's. And the mother said "Do this for me....make it where I can't have more babies....and don't tell my husband".
@Kat J granted. And I agree with you to a point. I don't think its cowardly for a patient to tell her doctor "I have 7 kids....I'm exhauste. I need you to do this for me so I don't have any more kids. The cowardice came when she told her husband this was their last, but then she refused to tell the truth even when Addison went to her and said "this is my name and reputation you are ruining with this lie.....you need to tell your husband what really happened" and she refused because she didn't want hubby to be mad at her.
@@CeltycSparrow she didn't just ask her to tie her tubes and not tell her husband, she also asked her not to put it on record which is illegal (part of why Alex was mad and part of why I agree with him).
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The fact that she's afraid to tell him is a clear sign the marriage is abusive
its mentioned before due to his religion he doesn't believe in birth control. other than that his wide states that she's only afraid of disappointing him and going against religion and that he's never hurt her and is actually a good person. if anything it shows how damaging religion can be to families.
She's afraid to tell him because she doesn't want him to feel guilty for going against what their religion says, not out of fear from him, but out of love FOR him.
He SHOULD feel guilty. If his faith tells him to put stress and pain on the woman he’s supposed to love and care for, then screw that part of their religion. HE can get a vasectomy then!
@@mooony22 What are you yapping about 😂
Religion is the best thing for family's and overal people
Its not Religions fault the women cannot communicate with her husband like they should in every relationship
The women is in the wrong for not sitting down and talking with thr husband
She went out of her way to help the patient and the patient wants to save her crappy marriage rather than the lady that probably saved her life.
I have realized that you can never help someone who doesn't want to help themselves.
Karev violated doctor patient privilege and his hypocratic oath. He'll be the type of doctor that requires women to have their husband's permission to get starilized before doing the procedure.
She should have just signed the documents required
He's such a arxhole for speaking to the husband.. the husband is not the patient.
Still gets me angry to this day. Addison was just doing what her patient wanted
Exactly!
Where did she sign ?
@@hel_9155she doesn't have to sign anything to ask for or want a procedure. She even literally expresses her gratitude several times, even while betraying her doctor. Watching the clip fully is so easy. As is shutting up
@mervynlarrier9424 She does have to sign, and that is where the doctor failed. Even in secrecy, she needed to sign a consent form for the procedure stating the expected outcomes and some "actual" complications of the procedure. I'm a nurse and have had to do this for EVERY procedure the patient needs or wants.
@@mervynlarrier9424she does have to sign... it's called "informed consent" and the paperwork is what supports that. She got in trouble precisely because she went cowboy and acted rashly. Out of sympathy for the patient, yeah, but ultimately recklessly.
Addison is right. The doctor's obligation is to the patient, and not the spouse.
Now what happens when the spouse asks questions about the operation? They also have a obligation to not lie either.
@@93King patient confidentiality
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That doesn't necessarily work on spouses. It would depend on the situation.
@@93King well that’s not situation is it. If a patient says don’t tell my significant others then they can’t
@@chatman4998
This whole situation was illegal and you want to bring legality in to this as a moral thing to justify illegal actions?
Karev should loose his license. That’s against doctor patient confidentiality. What a disgusting thing.
Men ☕️
And malpractice is any better? You people are deluded
@@sanegayguythat's not malpractice lmao
It's proper funny that you are bringing legality in a operation with a purposeful action that can only be described as illegal.
Women and reasoning...😅
"Your ass is mine until I said otherwise.... congratulations."
Addison Montgomery..
Those lines were so seductive and threatening. She had Karev's big ball. No Izzie, Meredith, Cristina nor George even the Nurses to save him. 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣
Even Bailey can't save him🤣🤣🤣
She is a cheating hor ☕😂
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The reality check Karev needed
He was very heartless bc his fragile heart got broken
If you don’t want more kids and have to have secret surgery rather than talk about it with your husband, your marriage is already in deep trouble.
uofc57 religion complicates that
@@Isabella-xu3plHow? If your religion says you can't have an honest conversation with your spouse about something as important as the number of children you have, your religion is trash and you should leave.
@@Isabella-xu3pl yeah no. Lying to her husband breaks the 10 commandments. That is also a religious concern that she did not mind side stepping it
@@crispbologny1322 Christians are all the same, they can break as many of "gods laws" unless it benefits them.
@@Isabella-xu3pl hm no. This issue exposes the ridiculousness of religion
Dr karev really pissed me off this episode
I just love Addison and her kickass attitude...
I would told this patient "in order to save your failed toxic marriage, you are sacrificing my career and my life. very much Christian of you"
It is selfish to willingly tell the doctor to perform a service for you then rationalizing your lie by minimalizing the effect on them
thats why you never trust the patient, no side favors, do it right by the book, they can turn against you anytime especially younger patients especially OB patients
I would have recorded her she should have told the truth
thats why you never trust the patient, no side favors, do it right by the book, they can turn against you anytime especially younger patients especially OB patients
I'm glad I saw this comment because I am planning on becoming a nurse and honestly never put 2 and 2 together. But you're right. No matter what you have to do everything by the book and on record.
Hes pissing me off, let the patient (THE GIRL) do what she wants with her body!
Pretty sure it said that the patient herself told the husband if I’m correct
@@sebastiandiazacosta8329she only told him there was a complication telling him this child is the last out of the 7 or 8 they already have.
It was the male doctor who insisted of him getting a lawyer literally saying it wasn’t a complication but her tube got tied.
Addison is such a professional
no she isn't, she made a mistake by doing a procedure thats not on the consent form or chart.
Its funny how Karev was from her service and ended up with peds. Its not the same but close enough.
Addison had a huge influence on the path Karev took.
never trust your patient, just do the right thing by law n book
She did.
That kind of thinking has k1lled millions of people in the OR. Laws are made by the science you know at that moment, laws will be broken and changed all the time because medical information will always change and contradict itself.
I actually hate the patient tbh
The man is gonna divorce her either way.
If her uncle Buck knew about this he'd have sorted it out!
The patient is a coward. If she was honest and forthcoming to her husband the doctors wouldn't have had to break the law for this coward. The doctor obligation is to the patient but not so much as to break the law.
She didn't break the law?
She didn't document the procedure for what it was. That made her and the hospital liable. It was a tubal litigation and in reality, they would have been able to have it done without the husband knowing. There is no way a doctor would be okay with doing this. They'd for sure lose their medical license @@violettippet5246
She didn't break the law bozo
This episode was to bring up topic for discussion… and educate people.
ADDISON QUEEN
Neither of them were in the right on this. Alex should not have interjected himself with Addison or the patient's spouse, and Addison should never have involved Alex in her attempt to defraud the patient's insurance.
THere was no insurance defrauding. THe patient paid for the procedure out of pocket. Karev had NO right.
She paid for it out of pocket, why do people opine without watching the damn video/episode?
She paid for it? Because clearly her husband forcing her to be a baby making factory but Alex decide to snitch and cause for lawsuit even tho the wife consented
How did this episode end? Did she have to admit the woman asked her to get her tubes tied? Were there juristic problems? Anything else?
Alex tattled one her to the husband and created a mess. Which was a shame for the wife. It's clear she is in am abusive situation
Oh the husband had the religious beliefs... that's why :(
I was like "Couldn't the husband have vasectomy? :P"
The doctor can tell the court if necessary.
What season? Which episode?
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Pensé que era la única que odio a Karev. 😠😠😠
Did she really get away with it?!?!
So what happened? Did the woman finally fess up?
Karev should have keep his mouth shut, like you are a intern get with the program. at the end of the day that is your patient.
I would love to have a baby with addison
😍😍😍
So what happen after this , does she lost her job ???
b.r Gary Alex Br Meredith
Fucking deserve Karev
People act like she wasn’t putting everyone’s career on the line not just hers. Totally with Alex on this one. It was selfish to ask that from someone just because you don’t know or how to talk to your partner about your concerns.
On violating HIPPA? Please stay far away from medicine or any service profession, you cannot be trusted
Women moment
A cheating hor doing best for a patient ☕😂
I'm with Alex with this one. And not because I hate Addison, cause even if it was someone else, I wouldn't be able to accept what they did.
I actually haven't liked Alex that much either, but I'm definitely on his side with this one.
I actually agree with Addison. The mother ASKED her to do this. She has 6 children....this was number 7....and she's exhausted. She doesn't want anymore children and she wanted Addison to make it so, and she told Addison specifically that her husband couldn't know. Addison's right....their duty is to the patient. Not the husband. Just because the wife is now such a coward that she can't tell her husband the truth, doesn't change that.
You are cheap
@Kat J The patient asked her to lie. Bailey is right (she didn't say it in this particular case but with one for Meredith) Its doctor PATIENT confidentiality. She is not required to heed the husband's wishes....she is required to heed her patient's. And the mother said "Do this for me....make it where I can't have more babies....and don't tell my husband".
@Kat J granted. And I agree with you to a point. I don't think its cowardly for a patient to tell her doctor "I have 7 kids....I'm exhauste. I need you to do this for me so I don't have any more kids. The cowardice came when she told her husband this was their last, but then she refused to tell the truth even when Addison went to her and said "this is my name and reputation you are ruining with this lie.....you need to tell your husband what really happened" and she refused because she didn't want hubby to be mad at her.
@@CeltycSparrow she didn't just ask her to tie her tubes and not tell her husband, she also asked her not to put it on record which is illegal (part of why Alex was mad and part of why I agree with him).