1. Get the truck co. out the way- single family homes do not require a truck in front. 2. From the start of the video the smoke tells you the fire is in the building-I.E. above you, and not in the living space - I.E. furniture. So start pulling ceiling. This is lightweight gusset plate construction, no one should be on the roof. 3. I assume the chief without the helmet is in charge. Stop being a mobile command post and sit your ass down. You what appears to be about ten other chefs on scene, use ICS and start appointing task to them, here's a good starting- Operations, Safety, Interiour, Ventilation, Staging, R.I.T..
This house is sitting there burning while the guys are just standing there and waiting to be told what to do. Why?? Put the water on the fire 🔥!!! How hard is that??
Well, they had the aerial spraying water from up above for quite awhile, and judging by the hoses that run all over the scene and disappear, they were using the hoses at other homes. I'm reading it was 3 apartment condos attached and all of the hoses had to be fed from a single water main. All the guys standing around are the backup to let others take breaks, do other work like cut vent holes in the roof, etc. The single water main coming into the neighborhood would be a major contributing factor to the lack of water on the fire, as well as splitting their available water over 3 active condos.
Please read my Post...there is a chain of command and until your allocated a task you stand and wait...another reason for so many crews is was a multi dwelling condo ... Yes water was being applied and you only say the Alpha side, the change in smoke colour said so
I have never seen so many guys standing around and picking their asses with a charged hose line on the ground in front of them and a very obvious need for its use. The concept of advancing a hose line into the structure through the front door was beyond their scope of work. But when you have your main chief officer rolling around on the active fire ground without his helmet that says a lot about how the department is ran.
Suppose you skipped reading the description, there was 3 condos involved. The charged line would have been at an adjacent condo. They were also having pressure issues, pretty clear by the flat hose they finally carry over around 3:30.
many departments operate differently some have some crews stand by while the others work and if needed pull out the first crew and have the guys standing around go in and substitute so they dont have all of their members exhausted and overworked in 30 minutes
@@joefun5442 We call that here in Europe 2 in 2 out! 2 guys go in to the fire and attack within! 2 stay out for the purposes you just explained. Fact is! You have enough firefighters here to achieve 2 in 2 out 10 times over! You are excusing lack of leadership, lack of training! Lack of ability! This fire should have been out in no time at all! Instead, these guys came for the BBQ! Whether you are reserved or volunteer, training is the same! So that's NOT an excuse for this catastrophy either!! It's just another American Firefighter disaster as usual! I am an Irish firefighter. We are all Retained! If we stood around like this, scratching our holes while a handful go in and put out fire! We would be told to go home! And don't come back! Another foundation saved.
@@joefun5442 Some do operate differently, but everything is structured the same . You’re referencing a manpower pool . But this wasn’t a designated area for manpower . This is called freelancing . Imo it appeared that nobody was sure on what to do . But I understand, not every department has the experience. Some don’t see many fires so there’s going to be some confusion . I honestly have so many questions that I’m not even going to ask a single one . All I’ll say is stay safe gentlemen . And train like you work . The more training you have the better youll preform on the firefround
American firefighting: standing around, watching, carrying ladders from side to side, bringing ladders to the house and carrying them away again. Meanwhile, the house burns down cheerfully.
Who is the guy in blue at 2:50 that's just standing in the way? or the guy at @ that runs and grabs the axe and then at 3:54 he stands in the way and puts his foot on the hose as if he's doing something
Ok the guy with his foot on the hose is actually monitoring the water pressure in the line...the slightest drop is felt as the hose looses its shape and begins to flatten, if you catch it you can avoid a life threatening situation of running out of water...these guys in blue play a vital roll in helping get tools, run out hose linens, grab ladders off trucks, assist with breathing gear...so before you bag them out find out who and what they do
@@Aprilsraven629 Bud if you were apart of a department you’d understand how stressful the public can make our job, I’ve been to over 300 calls with my department and when people get in the way or just start in the way and watch it gets me very annoyed
@@kevinhazlett7303 …. Relax cowboy, all the video shows is what we can see, and none were visible. What’s up with the weak ladder stream? It’s a small structure so if 2 1/2” were flowing not sure why it didn’t have much of an affect.
@@tewksburydriver8624 the structure is 3 apartment condos all attached. Two 2 1/2 working on the c side. One 1 3/4 in the bravo side exposure and one 1 3/4 in the delta side exposure as well as the aerial. This is a gated community with only one main feeding the complex.
@@Mpm61-61 … these condos are tough fights once it gets in that attic space and runs. Had a fire last month in a 3 story garden style condo building that started in a 3rd floor unit. Had a good stop and kept it to one condo but it got up into the open attic space and with no fire walls it’s pretty much game over.
Madmac96 im with you lol. As a firefighter, I won’t judge what’s going on because I’m not there. Maybe extenuating circumstances we’re not aware of? Who knows…
I have several relatives who are NYC firefighters. One of them lost his life responding to 9/11, he was in the first tower to fall. His brother was severely injured. Those who think they’re experts, get off the web and join your local FD!!
Rubbish! Look at 5:16 in the video. Charged line kinked half to death. Eventually, when they decide to do a bit of work they lifted the hose which then filled with water! Pressure doesn't just magically appear like that! This shit show is nonsense!
Was this a volunteer FD? What's with all the standing around? Was anyone actually coordinating the fire attack? How about that drip of water from the ladder truck?
Why bother to come to the fire if all you are going to do is watch. Oh yeah, might get to smash some windows, that makes it worth the drive. But put out the f'in' fire? Not my job!
I see cars in the driveway in many of these fire videos. Why don’t the owners move their cars? It’s stressful enough to lose a home, but your way of transportation too?
that would be what I would do after calling the fire department. move my cars away and also out of the garage and park them in someones driveway or lawn.
@@numberone7674 How do you know that they were even home?? Often people can't get to their keys either. And Life Safety is the FIRST PRIORITY, not a car. Insurance can get you a rental the same day.
Actually placing a vent hole in front of the fire traveling in the attic space or a cockloft allows super heated gases and flames to exit the structure slowing the spread to the bravo side apartment. As you can see no fire made it to the second vent hole. Good try though.
Ive seen way to many of these where they start just with a little brown smoke coming out of windows and vents to a total loss house. Somebody justify that? Including Aprilsraven. Milling around rather than putting water on the damn thing. Like one guy said... they saved the foundation!!
Ladies and gentlemen it take 3 things to have a fire; a fuel source, oxygen, and an ignition source. If you remove one of those things you have no fire. What we see here is the removal of the fuel source method of extinguishing the fire. By letting the fuel source, in this case the house, burn to the ground, the fire will eventually go out. Good job fellas. Good job. Way to use a very little used method of fire extinguishment... now you are all fired…
@@ronbradley5631 and what does volunteers have to do with it? I have gone through the same training and courses as paid guys! I have done a lot of training along side paid guys! I have been a proud volunteer for 30 years in two different towns. So I would love to hear what volunteers have to do with it! So were you on scene? Did you go to the C side of the building?
Nobody is interested in your smartass comment. I have seen you on these videos before. You my friend...are the reason the comments are turned off on many videos. Get a consulting business or shut the hell up.
glad I don't live there, looks like somebody just peeing on the house . Where is the water pressure and how come nobody has any hoses on the ground going?
I love USA but I'm sure glad that I don't live there when it comes to firefighting! That was painful to watch. The house just seemed to melt! Made of plastic & hardboard!
You have to wonder why the insurance industry isn't more involved with analysis of department effectiveness since they are the ones who ultimately pay the bills.
Why are they venting the windows on an already well ventilated fire? Huh. Also - opening the garage doors instead of cutting them. Entrapment danger? Oy.
Take their time putting it out? Let me ask you a question did you make it to the C side of the building? Maybe if you had been in the back of the structure you would have seen them fighting the fire in the back of the structure with 2 1/2’s and also interior attack.
@@kevinhazlett7303 Stop making excuses for this pathetic display of cowardice..if all the heroes were on side C..what prevented the Zeroes on Side A from doing anything...oh and stop with the lightweight construction BS..haven't heard of a FF LODD from falling drywall
What else are you going to build them out of Einstein??? Even if you used concrete, you still need wood for the floors, ceilings and roof. And what do you think the purpose of drywall is??? Hint, it's not just to hang pictures on...
@@kevinhazlett7303 oh I'm sure it was bravery at best..what prevented them from going to work on side A..What prevented them from opening up the roof ASAP ????
Fire fighting,, preferably in the volunteer world has really gone to the wayside for a couple of reasons. First we have turned into a working culture,,,work first a pleasure 2nd. Because of that, fireman are not getting training like they used. Companies nowadays wont even allow you to join. They dont want you at a fire when your supposed to be at work. And then the firefighting tactics changed with political correctness. When I was on a fire company in the 70,s there was no ABCD side. You arrived and chief told you what size hose to pull and make a inside attack fast. Fire training better improve.
After further review I find the only thing useful about this video is to show others what showing up and doing nothing looks like..oh yeah...the guys on Side C..the real heroes..lol
That house is very odd designed. And where are the Home owners, There's ta car in the garage, either the Firemen need to get this fire out or get that car out of the garage ! If that car explodes there's going to an inferno. Where the hell are the homeowners ??
Even if the homeowners were there they still wouldn’t have move them to many hose line laying around and cars can drive over the hose line or the LDH but they most definitely do need to get this fire out it’s crawling across the attic
@@DieselFire360 I bet their HOA was up in arms! Probably sued the family for their fire! I have no clue why people choose to live in one of those neighborhoods
Hey dingle berry, they did start an interior attack but had to back out when the fire got into the common space roof. Oh and you must not know about these condos and there light weight truss construction and how many firefighters these thing have killed. So have a seat in your fire buff chair and stop talking about things you don't know what you are talking about.
For all the couch critics who obviously have zero firefighting training, knowledge, skills and experience...what looks like an unorganised mass of fire fighters doing nothing that's no the case, each Station has a see specific task to do, at a specific time and place...they must wait until there told- - which to the uninitiated looks like we are just standing around no we are always looking & listening we are the eyes that the our brothers and sisters rely on when there busy...and in turn they do the same
It's too bad one of those tasks didn't include finding the burning material and putting what on it. If you know so much, where was your critique of their performance or do you need someone to tell you what happened here?
In the Uk, All firefighters are trained to fight fires and to call up re-enforcements and specialist if required.. Their first duty is to put out the fire as quickly as possible. Not stand around a wait for control to tell them what to do.
Omg, it's so hard for me to watch this video. I have never seen firefighters working like this, or not working. It's so much that could have been done to save alot of that structure. 😕
Not true. These condos have light weight truss construction, once the fire hit the common space roof, there was absolutely nothing that could have been done to save this condo. Oh by the way do you know how many firefighters have been injured and killed fighting fires in light weight construction over the last 20 years, about 250......yeah just ask Green Bay, WI what it's like to lose a firefighter to one of these fires....
It’s like the firefighter version of dumb and dumber…. Boy these SCBA things sure look cool. Let’s wear them while we watch the house burn down because we have no damn clue as to what we are doing.
Exactly, crews should of made a hard push into a structure with roof collapse and holes in the floor on the C side while master stream are operating. UA-cam IC is definitely the job for you. Please dont ever pick up a mic.
@@RLTtizME sorry if the truth hurts. If you don’t want your stuff critiqued don’t put it out there in a public forum. And if you think this department did a good job with this fire you probably shouldn’t be a firefighter.
@@ronbradley5631 I knew you would be immediately triggered. We are simply not interested in your rude, snarky second-guessing bilge. You need to find another venue for your poisonous style of commentary. In no way would we consider anything you have to say as a representation of any truth or professional expertise. I doubt at this point anyone could or even would work with you. Keep that in mind.....and move on.
@@RLTtizME lol. Talk about triggered. I’ve only said what any qualified firefighter is thinking. If you think this was a well managed scene then you should probably replace your fire hoses with hotdogs so you can at least eat while you watch everything burn to the ground.
Another example of USA departments not knowing what the priorities are. Find the fire and put water on it. Notice the front door open creating a wonderful flow path to feed the fire fresh air. Notice no water going through that gable end vent to fog the attic. All that water being applied, and the fire continues because nobody is looking for the burning material to get water on it. How much water does one spot need? All that manpower and finger pointing, and nobody knows what to do. Now hear this! That house could have been saved if they went inside WITH A HOSE INSTEAD OF EMPTY HANDED, found the burning material and put some water on it. If it is in the attic, you open a small hole, look around for the fire and put some water on it. If you can't see flames but you know it is up there, you fog the attic. That could all be done with the water you brought with you. People! Your heroes have no clue what this job is, let alone how to do it.
Go back to wearing your Eruo helmet and fighting fires from the outside. It’s a lot safer for you out there. Leave it to us Americans to go in and put the fire out
In New Zealand, 3 or 4 appliances would attend a fire or this size. That's 16 men, and 2 x 45mm lines, and maybe a HPD. Ladder trucks not required. The amount of men standing around outside doing nothing is unbelievable.
New Zealand sucks. How do you even have internet to watch this awesome video and make a comment? Ladder trucks always required but everyone in New Zealand is scared of heights. Men outside rotate and rehab and are RIT. Whatchu know bout RIT in new zeal dood? Also I bet NZFD wears those ugly space helmets. Good day mate
@@mikehunt9784 Mate the European fire helmets are far safer and better designed than that outdated thing you guys stick on your head. Its about 30 years out of date and falls of your head every 5 minutes.
I read a lot of the comments here as I have at all these videos over the past 15 years, on a daily basis. This performance is not the exception. This is the Norm throughout the USA. "It's high school graduation. Look around you. Who are going to become firefighters and who are going to go out there and create something?" Just because they Joined Up, Dressed Up and Showed Up, doesn't mean they have the common sense and logic and the work ethic to do the job safely and effectively. What you saw is who they are.
Pathetic fire fighting and firemen. Why would you be breaking windows? Giving more oxygen to the fire? Whether these firemen are paid or volunteers they need basic fire fighting training other than standing around in a group watching.
Its called Ventilation and it directs the fire, without breaking the windows the fire would continue to spread laterally across the roof void into the adjoining structure(s) this was a multi dwelling condo...by Ventilating it kept the fire in the original structure which was beyond saving, they did an excellent job
RLT, 42 years as a firefighter. 8 years as a chief, 4 years as a Captain, 2 years as a 1st lieutenant, 2 years as a 2nd lieutenant. And you watch your comment boy
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1. Get the truck co. out the way- single family homes do not require a truck in front. 2. From the start of the video the smoke tells you the fire is in the building-I.E. above you, and not in the living space - I.E. furniture. So start pulling ceiling. This is lightweight gusset plate construction, no one should be on the roof. 3. I assume the chief without the helmet is in charge. Stop being a mobile command post and sit your ass down. You what appears to be about ten other chefs on scene, use ICS and start appointing task to them, here's a good starting- Operations, Safety, Interiour, Ventilation, Staging, R.I.T..
Why are there always 20 firemen and only 1 is putting water on the fire and the other 19 are standing around watching? Another foundation saved
Why isn't there more water going on the fire?
This house is sitting there burning while the guys are just standing there and waiting to be told what to do. Why?? Put the water on the fire 🔥!!! How hard is that??
Well, they had the aerial spraying water from up above for quite awhile, and judging by the hoses that run all over the scene and disappear, they were using the hoses at other homes. I'm reading it was 3 apartment condos attached and all of the hoses had to be fed from a single water main. All the guys standing around are the backup to let others take breaks, do other work like cut vent holes in the roof, etc. The single water main coming into the neighborhood would be a major contributing factor to the lack of water on the fire, as well as splitting their available water over 3 active condos.
Please read my Post...there is a chain of command and until your allocated a task you stand and wait...another reason for so many crews is was a multi dwelling condo ... Yes water was being applied and you only say the Alpha side, the change in smoke colour said so
So around the 4:30 mark they are still using a master stream while guys are attempting to go inside the building?
I noticed that too
I lost my home to fire in 1986. So, my sympathy goes to the home owners. it is a great loss, hopefully no one was hurt.
I have never seen so many guys standing around and picking their asses with a charged hose line on the ground in front of them and a very obvious need for its use. The concept of advancing a hose line into the structure through the front door was beyond their scope of work. But when you have your main chief officer rolling around on the active fire ground without his helmet that says a lot about how the department is ran.
Suppose you skipped reading the description, there was 3 condos involved. The charged line would have been at an adjacent condo. They were also having pressure issues, pretty clear by the flat hose they finally carry over around 3:30.
Don’t just do something, stand there!
many departments operate differently some have some crews stand by while the others work and if needed pull out the first crew and have the guys standing around go in and substitute so they dont have all of their members exhausted and overworked in 30 minutes
@@joefun5442 We call that here in Europe 2 in 2 out! 2 guys go in to the fire and attack within! 2 stay out for the purposes you just explained. Fact is! You have enough firefighters here to achieve 2 in 2 out 10 times over! You are excusing lack of leadership, lack of training! Lack of ability! This fire should have been out in no time at all! Instead, these guys came for the BBQ! Whether you are reserved or volunteer, training is the same! So that's NOT an excuse for this catastrophy either!! It's just another American Firefighter disaster as usual! I am an Irish firefighter. We are all Retained! If we stood around like this, scratching our holes while a handful go in and put out fire! We would be told to go home! And don't come back! Another foundation saved.
@@joefun5442
Some do operate differently, but everything is structured the same . You’re referencing a manpower pool . But this wasn’t a designated area for manpower . This is called freelancing . Imo it appeared that nobody was sure on what to do . But I understand, not every department has the experience. Some don’t see many fires so there’s going to be some confusion . I honestly have so many questions that I’m not even going to ask a single one . All I’ll say is stay safe gentlemen . And train like you work . The more training you have the better youll preform on the firefround
Lmao, im going to be laughing at that all day!
American firefighting: standing around, watching, carrying ladders from side to side, bringing ladders to the house and carrying them away again. Meanwhile, the house burns down cheerfully.
How many volunteers can we pack into the garage?
Who is the guy in blue at 2:50 that's just standing in the way? or the guy at @ that runs and grabs the axe and then at 3:54 he stands in the way and puts his foot on the hose as if he's doing something
Doing just as much as anyone else.
Ok the guy with his foot on the hose is actually monitoring the water pressure in the line...the slightest drop is felt as the hose looses its shape and begins to flatten, if you catch it you can avoid a life threatening situation of running out of water...these guys in blue play a vital roll in helping get tools, run out hose linens, grab ladders off trucks, assist with breathing gear...so before you bag them out find out who and what they do
@@Aprilsraven629 Bud if you were apart of a department you’d understand how stressful the public can make our job, I’ve been to over 300 calls with my department and when people get in the way or just start in the way and watch it gets me very annoyed
Never seen so many firefighters standing around doing nothing while the house burns to the ground. I am glad I don’t live in that city
Read my Post it will explain why we stand around ...not at all
@@Aprilsraven629you know nothing
So sad when it’s multiple residences! Looks like a nice place to live too😔 I hope no one was hurt.
Even sadder when the fire department shows up then walks around looking at it instead of putting the fire out..
Im turning 48 with arthritis in my hips, and lower back problems. I finally found my department!
Did this fire take out one condo or two?
I have never seen so many firemen doing so little to save a house......
Is that a controlled burn
great footage, new subscriber!
It is a volunteer department
And what’s your point? What does that have to do with it?
I don't care if it's a volunteer fire department or not that is an embarrassment to us firefighters that are trained properly
The insurance company should sue this fire department for incompetence
I'm pretty sure that the HOA took care of any lawsuits.
If we all put our minds to it, we might save the slab.
Water pressure at beginning did not look good. I would say that side of house done, but maybe other side can be saved. So sad]
Must be a training fire cause I’d fire every officer and chief if it wasn’t
Honestly my dad a retired chief had to tell them to cut holes in the roof
put the f___ing water on the fire
Had to be water issues going on here, no other logical reason to not have 2 1/2" handlines going and the ladder pipe looked to have low pressure.
@@kevinhazlett7303 …. Relax cowboy, all the video shows is what we can see, and none were visible. What’s up with the weak ladder stream? It’s a small structure so if 2 1/2” were flowing not sure why it didn’t have much of an affect.
@@tewksburydriver8624 the structure is 3 apartment condos all attached. Two 2 1/2 working on the c side. One 1 3/4 in the bravo side exposure and one 1 3/4 in the delta side exposure as well as the aerial. This is a gated community with only one main feeding the complex.
@@Mpm61-61 … these condos are tough fights once it gets in that attic space and runs. Had a fire last month in a 3 story garden style condo building that started in a 3rd floor unit. Had a good stop and kept it to one condo but it got up into the open attic space and with no fire walls it’s pretty much game over.
this chief has no control of this fire
Most likely lightning strike considering it’s raining
I will never understand why firemen put water on smoke and not flames.
Who is running command? Accountability?
4:46 four men breaking a one smallish window. That’s how firefighting is done!
我住在越南 曾看多段各西方國家的火災場面影片 無數先進消防車 如臨大敵 滾滾而來 但感覺有兩個場合不大理解 一是所有救火隊員 開始時都慢條斯理毫不緊張落力 二是火場門外或隔壁與近距離之汽車 仍然安位不動 為何不駕離危險線 在外國的各位鄉親 可否提供指示 在此我愚老頭謝謝諸位。
Nice video, definitely wasn’t a Samsung video
I hate when casual observers comment on these videos...but...man does there seem to be a water pressure issue here!
YES !
Thats all you got out of this pathetic display is water pressure issues
I'm just here to read the comments from all the UA-cam firefighters, telling us what a lousy job the actual firefighters did.
But they did.
They sucked
Madmac96 im with you lol. As a firefighter, I won’t judge what’s going on because I’m not there. Maybe extenuating circumstances we’re not aware of? Who knows…
UA-cam “firefighters” think that they are experts 🤷♀️🤷♀️😡
I have several relatives who are NYC firefighters. One of them lost his life responding to 9/11, he was in the first tower to fall.
His brother was severely injured.
Those who think they’re experts, get off the web and join your local FD!!
Did they have a hand line? Get up on the roof.
Looked like a lack of water pressure evident from those hoses initially!!!
More like lack of leadership...
Rubbish! Look at 5:16 in the video. Charged line kinked half to death. Eventually, when they decide to do a bit of work they lifted the hose which then filled with water! Pressure doesn't just magically appear like that! This shit show is nonsense!
Thing are supposed to get better when the fire department gets there not worse. Pretty sad.
ៀផឹកៀឪពុកៀ😡
Was this a volunteer FD? What's with all the standing around? Was anyone actually coordinating the fire attack? How about that drip of water from the ladder truck?
@@kevinhazlett7303 why do you feel the need to mention all the career guys that were there?
C'mon brother..haven't you read the comments..all the heroes were on Side C..which must explain the Zeroes on Side A
I hope no one was hurt.
Fortunately nobody was hurt!
Trust me with all the cowards standing outside the only way they'd gotten hurt is if they tripped over each other..
God bless !!!
looks like a small department
My mother told me if I didn't have anything good to say, don't say anything, so.........
Good thing we all didn't listen to your mother
Unorganized and way too long to get water on that fire, Dam
Why bother to come to the fire if all you are going to do is watch. Oh yeah, might get to smash some windows, that makes it worth the drive. But put out the f'in' fire? Not my job!
No fire walls between units?
I see cars in the driveway in many of these fire videos. Why don’t the owners move their cars? It’s stressful enough to lose a home, but your way of transportation too?
that would be what I would do after calling the fire department. move my cars away and also out of the garage and park them in someones driveway or lawn.
@@numberone7674 How do you know that they were even home?? Often people can't get to their keys either. And Life Safety is the FIRST PRIORITY, not a car. Insurance can get you a rental the same day.
Please tell me this was a practice burn of an abandoned home! Just cut roof holes to watch the fire spread...
Actually placing a vent hole in front of the fire traveling in the attic space or a cockloft allows super heated gases and flames to exit the structure slowing the spread to the bravo side apartment. As you can see no fire made it to the second vent hole. Good try though.
Ive seen way to many of these where they start just with a little brown smoke coming out of windows and vents to a total loss house. Somebody justify that? Including Aprilsraven. Milling around rather than putting water on the damn thing. Like one guy said... they saved the foundation!!
This is the USA way. Watch these videos every day for 15 years and you will see the pattern.
Ladies and gentlemen it take 3 things to have a fire; a fuel source, oxygen, and an ignition source. If you remove one of those things you have no fire. What we see here is the removal of the fuel source method of extinguishing the fire. By letting the fuel source, in this case the house, burn to the ground, the fire will eventually go out. Good job fellas. Good job. Way to use a very little used method of fire extinguishment... now you are all fired…
You are a blowhard.
@@tewksburydriver8624 you must be a volunteer firefighter…
@@ronbradley5631 ..I’m not actually, 22 years full time the last 5 as a company officer. Are you disrespecting volunteers now?? What a guy you must be
@@ronbradley5631 and what does volunteers have to do with it? I have gone through the same training and courses as paid guys! I have done a lot of training along side paid guys! I have been a proud volunteer for 30 years in two different towns. So I would love to hear what volunteers have to do with it! So were you on scene? Did you go to the C side of the building?
Nobody is interested in your smartass comment. I have seen you on these videos before. You my friend...are the reason the comments are turned off on many videos. Get a consulting business or shut the hell up.
glad I don't live there, looks like somebody just peeing on the house . Where is the water pressure and how come nobody has any hoses on the ground going?
Did you see the C side of the building?
Exactly, piss poor firefighting
Call bridgeport in theyll save the day, piss poor performance here
No, and yes!
All the gear and not a clue what to do. Loads of people standing about and not doing a think. Its a joke some of that house of been saved.
So. Many. Questions.
Such. Officious. Douchie. Comments
I love USA but I'm sure glad that I don't live there when it comes to firefighting! That was painful to watch. The house just seemed to melt! Made of plastic & hardboard!
Lmbo Most houses are not built like that in America. Ty
I just like to know what is going on here🤔👀 , cause it sure isn't firefighting😒
A real example of how not to fight a fire.
New construction vents itself thru the roof collapse danger, No lives in jeopardy risk a little to save a little.
Then why are the Chiefs running in and out of the garage with a master stream flowing????
The Ascendent Tower got broken in at this job
Breaking glass? Thank God someone thought to do it! Really gets to the heart of the problem!
You clearly know nothing about fire fighting.
I know that to start a fire you need 3 things, heat, fuel and um ahhhh what's it called again?? O YA OXYGEN
@@ps4progress436 damn, you must be smarter then those trained fire fighters.
Must be!! Cos I would use water of oxygen
@@ps4progress436 you do know they do that to vent heat and smoke, right? Noob
WTF? Do they have any command and any training whatsoever!?
Check out 1:42… the assistant chief (that’s what the jacket says) is just standing there looking at the ground…. smh
That was a nice Connecticutian house.
You have to wonder why the insurance industry isn't more involved with analysis of department effectiveness since they are the ones who ultimately pay the bills.
the insurance company will do EVERYTHING they can to NOT payout. Just watch.
Why are they venting the windows on an already well ventilated fire? Huh. Also - opening the garage doors instead of cutting them. Entrapment danger? Oy.
If you open garage doors, use a short pike pole to jam it open
Because they scene it once on TV and it looks cool..
opening them is fine if you have hose lines in place. I bend the track with a hand tool to keep the door open.
That could have been saved if you didn’t take your time at putting it out
Take their time putting it out? Let me ask you a question did you make it to the C side of the building? Maybe if you had been in the back of the structure you would have seen them fighting the fire in the back of the structure with 2 1/2’s and also interior attack.
@@kevinhazlett7303 Stop making excuses for this pathetic display of cowardice..if all the heroes were on side C..what prevented the Zeroes on Side A from doing anything...oh and stop with the lightweight construction BS..haven't heard of a FF LODD from falling drywall
Stop building houses out of flammable wood, or install robust fire retardant equipment, wake up America.
What else are you going to build them out of Einstein??? Even if you used concrete, you still need wood for the floors, ceilings and roof. And what do you think the purpose of drywall is??? Hint, it's not just to hang pictures on...
Embarrassing to say the least alot property could have been saved
Hey! Look! A house is on fire!! Let’s stand around and watch!
@@kevinhazlett7303 oh I'm sure it was bravery at best..what prevented them from going to work on side A..What prevented them from opening up the roof ASAP ????
Fire fighting,, preferably in the volunteer world has really gone to the wayside for a couple of reasons. First we have turned into a working culture,,,work first a pleasure 2nd. Because of that, fireman are not getting training like they used. Companies nowadays wont even allow you to join. They dont want you at a fire when your supposed to be at work. And then the firefighting tactics changed with political correctness. When I was on a fire company in the 70,s there was no ABCD side. You arrived and chief told you what size hose to pull and make a inside attack fast. Fire training better improve.
It’s a test. How many chiefs. How many Indians How many rappers.
glad i don't live in that town
I was there
Probably lightning
After further review I find the only thing useful about this video is to show others what showing up and doing nothing looks like..oh yeah...the guys on Side C..the real heroes..lol
terrible job fire em all
That house is very odd designed. And where are the Home owners, There's ta car in the garage, either the Firemen need to get this fire out or get that car out of the garage ! If that car explodes there's going to an inferno. Where the hell are the homeowners ??
Even if the homeowners were there they still wouldn’t have move them to many hose line laying around and cars can drive over the hose line or the LDH but they most definitely do need to get this fire out it’s crawling across the attic
Cars don’t explode only on CHIPS.
@@DieselFire360 I bet their HOA was up in arms! Probably sued the family for their fire! I have no clue why people choose to live in one of those neighborhoods
@@mhaskins3769 Yes They do, Paul Walker car crash. Point just made.
@@DieselFire360 my Oldest Brother is a Retired Firefighter, The vehicle can drive over them or beside them.
To many chiefs not enough ff, fire got ahead of you
Light duty construction at it's finest.
That's right, build all the houses together. If one caught fire, they all do. Good planning!
No interior attack....not a Rembrandt!!!
Does your Barcalounger have lights and sirens?
Hey dingle berry, they did start an interior attack but had to back out when the fire got into the common space roof. Oh and you must not know about these condos and there light weight truss construction and how many firefighters these thing have killed. So have a seat in your fire buff chair and stop talking about things you don't know what you are talking about.
@@kevinhazlett7303 obviously these mysterious heroes on Side C weren't putting much fire out
😭😭😭.....y'all need better help then that
For all the couch critics who obviously have zero firefighting training, knowledge, skills and experience...what looks like an unorganised mass of fire fighters doing nothing that's no the case, each Station has a see specific task to do, at a specific time and place...they must wait until there told- - which to the uninitiated looks like we are just standing around no we are always looking & listening we are the eyes that the our brothers and sisters rely on when there busy...and in turn they do the same
It's too bad one of those tasks didn't include finding the burning material and putting what on it. If you know so much, where was your critique of their performance or do you need someone to tell you what happened here?
In the Uk, All firefighters are trained to fight fires and to call up re-enforcements and specialist if required.. Their first duty is to put out the fire as quickly as possible. Not stand around a wait for control to tell them what to do.
Lets see how many guys we can fit in the garage. lol
Omg, it's so hard for me to watch this video. I have never seen firefighters working like this, or not working. It's so much that could have been done to save alot of that structure. 😕
Not true. These condos have light weight truss construction, once the fire hit the common space roof, there was absolutely nothing that could have been done to save this condo. Oh by the way do you know how many firefighters have been injured and killed fighting fires in light weight construction over the last 20 years, about 250......yeah just ask Green Bay, WI what it's like to lose a firefighter to one of these fires....
They actually were working on the C side of the building with 2 1/2’s and interior crews! Video does not show any thing from C side!
Absolutely pathetic..nothing but a bunch of yard stompers with hooks and bottles on doing the samething as the few bystanders lurking..NOTHING
Yes but, they bare firefighters so that makes them Heroes Just for joining up, dressing up and showing up. Performance means nothing.
Most important things is to cut as many holes as possible into the roof.
Foundation savers.
Pretty bad showing
Saved the foundation
Geez.........this is awful.
Shelton, someone buy them a second hose
Your idea. You do it Mr. Smartass.
It’s like the firefighter version of dumb and dumber…. Boy these SCBA things sure look cool. Let’s wear them while we watch the house burn down because we have no damn clue as to what we are doing.
Exactly, crews should of made a hard push into a structure with roof collapse and holes in the floor on the C side while master stream are operating. UA-cam IC is definitely the job for you. Please dont ever pick up a mic.
Be the best douchebag you can be. So far so good.
@@RLTtizME sorry if the truth hurts. If you don’t want your stuff critiqued don’t put it out there in a public forum. And if you think this department did a good job with this fire you probably shouldn’t be a firefighter.
@@ronbradley5631 I knew you would be immediately triggered. We are simply not interested in your rude, snarky second-guessing bilge. You need to find another venue for your poisonous style of commentary. In no way would we consider anything you have to say as a representation of any truth or professional expertise. I doubt at this point anyone could or even would work with you. Keep that in mind.....and move on.
@@RLTtizME lol. Talk about triggered. I’ve only said what any qualified firefighter is thinking. If you think this was a well managed scene then you should probably replace your fire hoses with hotdogs so you can at least eat while you watch everything burn to the ground.
Another example of USA departments not knowing what the priorities are. Find the fire and put water on it. Notice the front door open creating a wonderful flow path to feed the fire fresh air. Notice no water going through that gable end vent to fog the attic. All that water being applied, and the fire continues because nobody is looking for the burning material to get water on it. How much water does one spot need? All that manpower and finger pointing, and nobody knows what to do.
Now hear this! That house could have been saved if they went inside WITH A HOSE INSTEAD OF EMPTY HANDED, found the burning material and put some water on it. If it is in the attic, you open a small hole, look around for the fire and put some water on it. If you can't see flames but you know it is up there, you fog the attic. That could all be done with the water you brought with you. People! Your heroes have no clue what this job is, let alone how to do it.
Go back to wearing your Eruo helmet and fighting fires from the outside. It’s a lot safer for you out there. Leave it to us Americans to go in and put the fire out
The firefighters could have stopped at Walmart to get more firehose
😂
In New Zealand, 3 or 4 appliances would attend a fire or this size. That's 16 men, and 2 x 45mm lines, and maybe a HPD. Ladder trucks not required. The amount of men standing around outside doing nothing is unbelievable.
New Zealand sucks. How do you even have internet to watch this awesome video and make a comment? Ladder trucks always required but everyone in New Zealand is scared of heights. Men outside rotate and rehab and are RIT. Whatchu know bout RIT in new zeal dood? Also I bet NZFD wears those ugly space helmets. Good day mate
@@mikehunt9784 You lot have the worst fire helmets in the world. You are about 20 years behind most European countries.
@@mikehunt9784 Way to go Mike you tell him bud you are the best. Is your hunt sore today?
@@andyoxleyonhistravels we lot have what? Leather helmets > than any helmets especially gay European ones
@@mikehunt9784 Mate the European fire helmets are far safer and better designed than that outdated thing you guys stick on your head. Its about 30 years out of date and falls of your head every 5 minutes.
I read a lot of the comments here as I have at all these videos over the past 15 years, on a daily basis. This performance is not the exception. This is the Norm throughout the USA. "It's high school graduation. Look around you. Who are going to become firefighters and who are going to go out there and create something?" Just because they Joined Up, Dressed Up and Showed Up, doesn't mean they have the common sense and logic and the work ethic to do the job safely and effectively. What you saw is who they are.
Glad you come from a land of pure perfection.... Smgdh... 🙄
Trench cut early on a common roof, on a job that out of control.
Pathetic fire fighting and firemen. Why would you be breaking windows? Giving more oxygen to the fire? Whether these firemen are paid or volunteers they need basic fire fighting training other than standing around in a group watching.
Its called Ventilation and it directs the fire, without breaking the windows the fire would continue to spread laterally across the roof void into the adjoining structure(s) this was a multi dwelling condo...by Ventilating it kept the fire in the original structure which was beyond saving, they did an excellent job
They and all USA fireplayers need basic common sense and logic, training.
@@Aprilsraven629 You have absolutely No Clue Whatsoever! They broke those windows because they can, and nobody had the sense to stop them.
Another foundation saved
Your name is apt.
This dept needs more training.
Get a consulting business. Otherwise...clam up doofus.
Yes your right this department definitely needs mire training
@@charlesgarvey5660 We thought you worked at the manure slurry depot. Are you an actual fireman or not?
RLT, 42 years as a firefighter. 8 years as a chief, 4 years as a Captain, 2 years as a 1st lieutenant, 2 years as a 2nd lieutenant. And you watch your comment boy
@@charlesgarvey5660 we always need more training ! From top to bottom rank .
Omg
What’s with the one Chief running around in the “hot zone” and in and out the fire building without a helmet!?! Nice example for everyone!!!
Thats what your worried about? Really? No, really?
@@chiefrich1804 that’s just for starts!
I agree, wear your helmet!! Set an example dumbass
@@charlesgarvey5660 , yea…that was the problem here , know I understand why they could get water. Makes great scene now !,