@MSS7-s6f You do know that vedas recommend killing people? For example in arthveda, it is written that if someone criticises vedas they should be killed. Second, the problem is with "religion" not with oldest ideas. Oldest ideas include astronomy also.
I am not a flat earther. But I belive that flat earth model should be taught in schools as history in science. Arguments made by some flat earthers are awesome. History will repeat unless we learn from it.
Chanakya, I hold you in high esteem, but I strongly disagree with your opinion. In fact, I think you may regret your stance ten to fifteen years from now. When discussing complex topics, it's essential to engage with individuals who possess in-depth knowledge. Simply conversing with someone lacking proper understanding can lead to misinformed conclusions. To truly grasp a concept, I suggest consulting with experts who have a strong scientific foundation. Moreover, it's crucial to rely on empirical evidence rather than mere imagination. For instance, if you claim that an object's density determines its movement, that's a fundamental principle of science. However, if you want to validate your theory, you should be able to accurately predict the trajectory of a thrown or dropped ball. Without concrete evidence, your claims remain unsubstantiated and lack real-world applicability. The greatest challenge is that you may not realize the limitations of your knowledge, mistaking assumptions for facts.
@@chanakyatiwari this guy is the evidence that "brahmins are intellectually superior to other varnas" as written in the geeta and upanishad, is completely false.
Kshitij presented his argument nicely, supported by excellent examples. However, he could have added another compelling instance: despite cellular towers having limited communication ranges, we can still communicate from the center of the ocean, over 600-700 kilometers from the shoreline. This is only possible through satellite communication, proving the existence of satellites. Consider Elon Musk's Starlink satellite internet initiative. If space didn't exist, as you claim, how would such technologies function? Unfortunately, your perception of reality appears to be distorted, and you're living in a world of delusion, detached from actuality. The concern is that you're not only imagining things but also perpetuating a dream world that lacks any basis in reality.
So the main thing is. He doesn't like maths and also don't trust maths. As a result despite of studying complex problem, he choses to be in a umbrella which does support his believes. As he said that when he came to college, he couldn't understand anything (BINA SAR PAIR KI BATE). This is a very common tendency in students. When the are not that much into maths and physics, the find maths becoming monster suddenly (Quantum mechanics, Complex number integration and higher order calculus). And rather than thinking deeply, he took the easier path to deny all.
@@teachmescience-ob8yv do you really trust that he is MSc in Physics? I'm pretty sure he has a degree/certification in "jyotish Vidya". He mentioned in one of his videos.
Anticrepuscular rays are a meteorological optical phenomenon that appear as parallel shafts of sunlight that converge towards the antisolar point, which is the point in the sky opposite the sun: Anticrepuscular rays occur when low-angled sunlight is blocked by cloud cover. They are similar to crepuscular rays, but are generally fainter and more elusive. The apparent convergence of anticrepuscular rays is a visual illusion from linear perspective, similar to how parallel lines of a long straight road appear to converge at opposite points when viewed from above
On a flat Earth, the Sun shouldn't appear to rise or set; instead, it would fade as it moves parallel to the ground, appearing smaller as it moves away from the observer. However, in reality, the Sun remains the same size throughout the day. In fact, it often appears larger during sunrise and sunset compared to when it's directly overhead, which would be impossible on a flat Earth. Additionally, how is it possible that sunlight reaches the Moon but not the Earth when they are at a similar distance? The Moon would also look the same every day if that were the case.
1.)Stars appear to move differently in the sky in the Northern Hemisphere as compared to the Southern Hemisphere 2.) boats seem to disappear as they go farther in the ocean and NO, no handheld camera or "nikon p900" can help you see them due to the curvature. also, one could say if stars are farther than boats moving on the ocean, why can we see stars and not the boats, maybe because the stars are bright. but then, what's brighter to us, stars or the sun, and if you (Yes the Flat Earth Ones) said sun, then tell us again what is closer to us at night, sun or the stars, and which of them is not visible? 3.) didn't some flat earthers do some experiment a while back where they stood quite a distance apart and cut holes in two wooden boards and then one guy stood on the other opposite end and shine a light through, they couldn't see the light until the guy on the other end raised the light above his head, sounds FLAT to me 4.) there is a 15 degree per hour drift considering the earth is not flat, and it can be measured by a gyroscope, it will show you 15 degree drift and even if you encase it in a zero gauss chamber, it will still be 15 degrees., wonder how much is it on a flat earth??
Chanakya is a true gentleman Although he is wrong and totally opposite to our perspective and knowledge, he listens and argues calmly. I also didn't expect that such a hardcore believer will listen to kshitij bhaiya in a peaceful manner.
@@sinx_cosx he listens and argues calmly because he doesn't understand what Kshitij is saying. This is same as smiling at someone who is abusing you in his language, if you don't understand, you won't feel offended.
@@sinx_cosx I like your trustworthiness. However, I have followed him for quite a while now. I don't believe he has anything to do MSc. Physics. That is just a lie to try to establish some authority and credibility. He knows, the first question anyone will ask is, "do you have any formal education in modern physics, to make these claims?" Also, Indians, especially Hindus, are prone to fall for "argument from authority" which is a fallacy. Google it to know more.
No. He is a conspiracy theorist, in the spectrum of dogma and skepticism, he is more on the side of skepticism than us and on the side of dogma less than us. Edit: However it does not make his claims true.
He is a dropout after second year. Most likely he couldn't clear first year courses until his second year and left subsequently. What surpsises me is how did he get admitted to an institute like NIT Patna?
His only argument was: "Observe jo ho raha hai vo dekho na" Hatsoff to your patience Kshitij! I couldnt do this for an hour haha! If I got a dollar for everytime Chanakya said "observe" and denied giving any explanation, "Main reasoning nahi de raha", I would be decently rich compared to yesterday xD
Mujhe lagta he ki ye sab schools me lack of live experiments ke wajah se ho rha he.😢 Bachhe bina dekhe maan hi nhi paa rhe kisi bhi science ke truth ko. Humans bahot pehle se hi sari cheejon ko apne surrounding wale logic se dekhne ki kosis karta hai or ishi ke chakkar me hum isse jyada age ka kuchh imagine hi nhi kar paa rhe. School waloon ko imagination or experiments ke uper dhyan dena chahiye
Mujhe lagta hai prblm ye hai ki aadmi ko sidhi baat janni hai par mostly physics me starting me direct nhi padha sakte aadmi samajh hi nhi payega Ye sab me hai chahe history ho ya religion ho unko seedhi baat janni hai par aage ka janne ke liye padhna padega phd tak research me jana padega koi bhi chiz ho vo karna nhi hai Aur social media ke karan har chiz ka knowledge lene ka jane kya padi hai logo ko
Koi chiz ki sambhavna par baat hi nhi karni logo ko bas absolute truth bta do inko har chiz ka aur apne opposite side ke research karne vale se baat hi nhi karna bas chote mote jinko knowledge nhi hai unko hra diya hra diya karke apne supporters se badayi karwani hai kuch channel walon ko Ye bhi prblm karte hai
America me 10 percent log mante hai ye kshitij bhai ne bola Par waha to education kafi accha btate hai Prblm baat na karne ka hai aur ye naye UA-camrs aa gye hai jo views ke liye jhuth bol dete hai unka samasya hai mtlb bhoot, astrology, sex, टोने टोटके bas yahi famous hai podcast par
@Pangeran_s I totally agree with you. Or ek baat gaur karo ki ye log science ko reject kar rhe he kyunki inke hisab se science me sar or pair nhi. Lekin fir jab ye log khudka kuch bhi bna rhe hein to usme bhi to kuch rules, laws ya assumption lga rhe he or uspe na jane kya kya bna rhe he. Actually inko hate ya bewakoof bolne se ye log or provoke ho jaenge Hume inhe pyar se sari cheejon ko explain karna hoga.
@Pangeran_s Bas itni duwa karo ki ye jo division ho rha he, community ban rhe he inke beech koi wiwaad na ho jesse religion communities ke beech hota he
I bet kshitij couldn't even point out any single use of a globe earth in actual practicality In reality we all use flat plane measurements for all practical purposes such as celestial navigation & sea farring which is not even possible on a globe earth (celestial navigation is only possible by taking the base of the angles as flat) Chanakya should convey these points more
Global time zone GPS Airline flight paths Star and planetary motion Shadows and the earth’s shadow during eclipses Ocean tides I can go on, but it’s better you first do some research and read science from class 4
@@astrokshitij you forgot, measurement of gravitational acceleration at a point on earth, isn't it required to calculate escape velocity which is an important parameter when launching rockets? On one end, the ISRO chief tells us all science originated in the Vedas and on the other end, we have people who say that according to the Vedas and other texts, the earth is flat.
1:12:04 this is truly nonsense.. what do u mean by jamin pe khare ho kar phir se observe karo? Obviously jamin pe khare hokar earth rest me hi dikheka but iska ye mtlb nahi hota ki earth rest pe hai. literally iss aadmi ko itna nahi pta hai ki earth ke motion ko earth pe se observe nahi kiya jaa sakta hai. Earth pe se dekhne pe sunlight yellow dikhta hai kya iska mtlb usse yellow maan le?? NONSENSE..!
I've been following your content since your collab with Vimoh, and I absolutely love it. That said, I noticed you seem to have a bit of a hard time explaining your points clearly in this debate, which is understandable given the topic. I do have a small suggestion, and I hope you'll take it positively. Instead of saying 'you know, right,' perhaps try asking 'do you agree?' This small change might help avoid triggering the other side to respond dismissively with 'yes, yes, I know' without really thinking. By asking 'do you agree,' you're inviting them to engage and reflect, which could lead to more meaningful dialogue. It also ensures you're both on the same page before moving forward with your explanation.
@@astrokshitijOkay now I've finished watching this. This is indeed a great video to start 2025 from your side. Hope to see your projects again and again and again. 😀
@@astrokshitijBhai agar earth flat hai to is hisab se to sab kuch flat hona chahiye, jese ki sun or others planets bhi flat hoge fir to 😂😂😂😂 ya inke hisab se sirf earth hi flat 😂😂😂
I am in class 11 (pcm) and I have three months left before the end of class 11. I am interested in pursuing a degree in astrophysics and becoming a research scientist. i wish to study in IISc, the IIST, or any other top university and college. Since I did not study biology in class 11, I will be difficult for me to take the IAT after my 12th grade. Could you please guide me as to what I can do?
You can give NISER entrance exam for integrated MSc. Or many IITs and NITs have Integrated BS MS programs, you can apply through JEE. If you don't crack any of them, then go for BSc from any college and prepare for JEST, IITJAM etc for Masters or Integrated PhD in top research institutes.
Give nest and IAT as well because they consider only three subjects where you done good. Or you can do Bsc from any good university and give IIT jam exam from where you can get both MSc and int MSc -phd in IIT ,nit and iisc and iist or even iiser ,nieser
Well I've a powerful point which no flat earther can explain and its that why Tides in ocean even emerges if there isn't any gravity, and also why only it gets even more Higher when the moon came slightly closer to earth, this phenomenon shows that there's must need of gravity to let this thing happen.
@Newmoon19 because gravity can be observed if you take two objects and put them closer to each other in empty space then they will start attracted towards each other which proves that some attraction force exist and Newton named that attraction force as gravity, it's clean what is the problem here?
T20 match mei mujhe laga flat earth wala pahali ball per bold ho jayega, lekin banda pura bees over tak khel gaya aur end mei match bhi undecided raha...maan gayen bro tumko ! 😊😊 Sirf afsos es baat ka hai ki jisne pahali ball par hi out ho jaana tha wo pura bees over khel gaya 😊😀
The thing I got to know is he is not able to distinguish between analogy & example. He is considering analogy as an example for the explanation. The arguments will never come to an agreement. Sad as he felt like a good person to talk 😢😢
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Kisne socha tha ki 21st century jo modern century hogi jaha science logic and intellectualism hogi.. Wohi science aj apni energy pseudoscience se debate karne me laga rahi... Ye education and social system ke liye bhut harmful hai Political cum Religious propoganda Ye bhut badi wajh hai India ko backward le jane me Khud PM jimmedaar hai iske and unki cabinet example; 1)PM publicly bol rahe ki India me plastic surgery sabse pahle suru hui ye mythology hai aur history bana ke present karna ye show krta hai ki desh ke PM ya to bhht darpok hain aur dharm se dare hue hain ya phir uneducated hain... 2)Sudhanshu bol rahe ki ohm= mc² bina padhe likhe Einstein ki Theory ye show krta ki wo dharm ke name par kitne andhe hain sirf political power banane ke liye Pseudoscience faila rahe... 3)Publicly parliament me bola ja raha Modern Science, Astrology ke samne kuch nhi.. Socho jab ye log Parliament me aisa bol rahe to socho common citizens ka kya hal hoga.. Science matters ❤✊ Agar upcoming generation ko superstition nd pseudoscience se bachana hai to Students ko samne ana padega
I don't agree with your first point. Plastic surgery was known to mankind since ancient times. Maharishi Sushruta made great contributions to both plastic and cataract surgery. He maybe not the first person in history to do this but his method was much better than many European physicians in later centuries. To be honest the Earliest known reference to plastic surgery (I.e repairing a broken nose) has been found in an ancient Egyptian papyrus dating upto 1600 B.C
@agniswar3 we proudly say that India is a country where plastic surgery was begun... There is no debate it is fact! But i am here to talk about mixing of mythology with history is not good as PM says 'Ganesha was example of plastic surgery he was just mythological being not historical' Statement of PM is itself unscientific about Ganesha and he was trying to mix mythology with history which is not good sign of intellectual progress) I am not against charak and Shushruta they are undoubtedly doctors of plastic surgery
I feel none of the arguments were discussed for conclusion, but i support FE as it makes lot of sence with normal logic and observations then with complex theories and assumptions. Sun rays are divergent and same is also evident in the background pic of the session 😊
Few thoughts: 1. If you think that this is a long and painful debate/discussion, no. This is first time a Flat Earth video that I watched *without* skipping any time and this was very soft because I have watched 6 hour longs too 💀 2. Why do FEs needs to say about Gravity and satellites? Isn't it make almost negligible difference with GE theory by believing it? I mean isn't gravity (measurement) works same in both model? And if they just say those satellites are real, what's problem then? Instead of saying it is moving in space they can say, it is flying in sky or something lime that. 3. About conspiracy thing, he could say that Kshitij oversimplified it, it does not need to lie for everything and it does not need to convince thousands of people to lie. 4. I hope any FE will read this and answer the 2nd point but still one thing they didn't answered properly (And the easiest way to understand argument) that why sun rise/set this way, in their model it should rise like it is something is becoming clear and then growing in size and set like it is becoming small and small and after a point become foggy and foggy and disappear. Instead we see that it's size and visibility reamins the same and during sun set it go down! How it can be 0° angle there? Even with their perspective argument? 😂 Edit: I think a flat earth could be more fascinating because then we can have infinite resources like Minecraft 😂, (not Hunter X Hunter 💀)
It's of no use to disrespect people like these. It's moreover a mild psychological disability rather than stubbornness or dumbness. This is an extreme case of when people can not deal with mathematical abstraction at all. This is evident via multiple statements he made, like when he said that everything till 10th grade made sense, as no scientific maturity is introduced in the standard 10th grade curriculum, and things are kept very intuitive. It's also evident he is impatient regarding science, which is not at all good for any science person. Further, I noticed that he constantly implicitly states that he wanted to understand science in a bottom-up manner, like when he said that the fundamental stuff should be taught first. However, that's impossible for a civilization at our level which is still trying to figure out the majority of physics. This impatience, and inability to comprehend mathematical and scientific abstraction, paired with natural curiosity leads to frustration in such individuals which leads them to pursue less scientific but highly intuitive thoughts such as the flat earth. This is sad.
It's good. Chanakya 's channel is promoted here. That's what we wanted. Otherwise there is no point of debate without researching other's point of view deeply.
I am studying in class 11 commerce but jo mein inki baat suna inhone ne kaha ki ham observe karte hain ki clouds se aane wali jo lights hain wo angles mein aati hain ye ham observe karte hain lekin ham to ye bhi observe karte hain ki train ki patriyan dur jaate jaate hame converge hote hui dikhti hai iska mtlb ye thodi na ki patriyan sach mein converge ho rhi hain aur thora detail mein jaae to earth ka atmosphere me bhit Sari water and dust particles hoti hain jisse refrect hoke bhi light ko path thoda sa change hota dikhta hai plus mein clouds ke jo shadows hai wo bhi jitna ligt source ke nazdik hote hai wo utne hi kam hote hai aur dur jate jate shodows ekdum black ho jaate hai to mere hisaab se toh ye sab bate hai jinki wajah se hame light ek angle mein dikhti hain magar hoti parallel Hai 🙌 Mtlb kya bach kani si bate karte ho yaar 😂😂
Haa it's completely natural if you feel that something's tough in the beginning And no It's not necessary for you to be gifted in order to become a science student
It was so painful to listen to his 'explanations'! His sole funda is, "whatever my naked eyes can see, I'll believe only that much, only that is science!"
@@astrokshitij bhai aapki class laga di chankya tiwari ne...aapko pakka nind nahi aayi hogi raat ko 😂😂. . Aap to mandir ka ghanta ho jise har koi Baja jaata h😂😂
इसको पूछो यदि फ्लैट अर्थ है तो अमेरिका से जापान जाने में बहुत समय लगना चाहिए क्योंकि दोनों फ्लैट अर्थ के दोनों सिरों पर है😂 पर रूस और अमेरिका जापान तीनों पास ही है😂 अंटार्कटिका का पानी पिघला तो क्या होगा😂
40:00 that's the way how shortest path for planes are assumed 🤣🤣🤣 If you will trace planes path on a 2d map (in flightradar24) you can observe that the planes are traveling in a curve path 🤣🤣🤣
Mujhe feel hua k Kshitij bhai ko physics k terms me nahi samjhana tha wo hmesha us explanation ko ignore kr rha tha. Msc physics bhale hi ki hai. But sirf ye nahi ki earth spherical h balki har baat ko nahi maan rhe. Huygen principal ho ya jo bhi. Wo bs pure basic observation kya h wo dekho bol rhe. Kshitij bhai pure basic observations pe challenge krte to better hota. Kyuki hm aor deep jaate jayenge to sab chize badlengi bhi quantum level pe jayenge to. Example Agar hm close to speed of light se move karen aor solar system se guzre.. to hmko earth aor sab planets flat elliptical plate jaisi dikhengi.
Btw the buoyancy thing argument in flat earth is circular bcz you can't explain why denser objects sink and less dense objects move upward in a fluid without "gravity".
44:54-44:58😂 kshitij be like achha achha me samaj gaya app bohi chij keh rahey ho na, hmmmm😂 bo galat hey 😂, bo part mujhe bahat funny laga and achha bhi laga 😊
@@astrokshitij Recently a flat-earther named Jeran set up a elaborate experiment (KUDOS to him for setting up an experiment) with laser light and hole to prove earth is flat and accidentally proved its globe.
Chanakya Niti me likha he ki kisi murk ko samjhane sebari murkhta koi nhi hoti, the level of BS he was spitting gave me migraines, bhaiya plz educated logo koh laya karo channel me.
Bhai agar earth flat hai to is hisab se to sab kuch flat hona chahiye, jese ki sun or others planets bhi flat hoge fir to 😂😂😂😂 ya inke hisab se sirf earth hi flat 😂😂😂
kyaa Kshitij bhai, itne der me apni kisi philosophy kaam krte to shayad nayi soch mil jaati😅. btw lagta hai aapne hamse badla liya hai like 'mai fasaa hu to ab tumlog bhi faso' 😂
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"Religion is where you follow everything. Science is where you challenge everything."
~A.S Rana
@MSS7-s6f You do know that vedas recommend killing people? For example in arthveda, it is written that if someone criticises vedas they should be killed. Second, the problem is with "religion" not with oldest ideas. Oldest ideas include astronomy also.
where did religion come into play in this buddy ?
@@rhythmdubey6847 are choro ye banda vo stereotypical atheist h .
(me khud atheist hu lol)
@rhythmdubey6847 Ask this to the govt. introducing religious things in school syllabus.
Nice quotes
Ye sab jhoot ha....earth square hota ha... minecraft khelo pata lagega😂
Sahi baat hai
Good one
Wo toh cube ho gaya na ….lo galat prove ker diya aapko
😂😂😂
@@satyamkumarraj2200 observation ke through pata laga wo square ha😂.... observation bro observation 😅🤣
I am not a flat earther.
But I belive that flat earth model should be taught in schools as history in science.
Arguments made by some flat earthers are awesome.
History will repeat unless we learn from it.
"Not only are people stupid but they're also quite proud of it."
~A.S Rana
....
by saying "jay bheem"
you just said "I AM ALSO STUPID"
lol
@@neetendrasingh-x9w.. Sir can u elaborate
MSc in physics from dholakpur 😂😂😂
Chankakya be like: apun ko science samaj ni aa ra. Me khud ka science banayega😅😅😅
This debate shows class topper vs backbenchers debating in physics 😂
*Good start of 2025 with the Flat Earth Awareness* ❗
Chanakya, I hold you in high esteem, but I strongly disagree with your opinion. In fact, I think you may regret your stance ten to fifteen years from now.
When discussing complex topics, it's essential to engage with individuals who possess in-depth knowledge. Simply conversing with someone lacking proper understanding can lead to misinformed conclusions.
To truly grasp a concept, I suggest consulting with experts who have a strong scientific foundation. Moreover, it's crucial to rely on empirical evidence rather than mere imagination.
For instance, if you claim that an object's density determines its movement, that's a fundamental principle of science. However, if you want to validate your theory, you should be able to accurately predict the trajectory of a thrown or dropped ball.
Without concrete evidence, your claims remain unsubstantiated and lack real-world applicability. The greatest challenge is that you may not realize the limitations of your knowledge, mistaking assumptions for facts.
@@chanakyatiwari this guy is the evidence that "brahmins are intellectually superior to other varnas" as written in the geeta and upanishad, is completely false.
Kshitij presented his argument nicely, supported by excellent examples. However, he could have added another compelling instance: despite cellular towers having limited communication ranges, we can still communicate from the center of the ocean, over 600-700 kilometers from the shoreline. This is only possible through satellite communication, proving the existence of satellites.
Consider Elon Musk's Starlink satellite internet initiative. If space didn't exist, as you claim, how would such technologies function? Unfortunately, your perception of reality appears to be distorted, and you're living in a world of delusion, detached from actuality. The concern is that you're not only imagining things but also perpetuating a dream world that lacks any basis in reality.
Chanakya has proved his nature sense many times. That's one big reason he carries more weight whenever he is in debate.
Good try but u forgot the most important fact and evidence SEXTANT, LEVELING,... Etc
So the main thing is. He doesn't like maths and also don't trust maths. As a result despite of studying complex problem, he choses to be in a umbrella which does support his believes. As he said that when he came to college, he couldn't understand anything (BINA SAR PAIR KI BATE). This is a very common tendency in students. When the are not that much into maths and physics, the find maths becoming monster suddenly (Quantum mechanics, Complex number integration and higher order calculus). And rather than thinking deeply, he took the easier path to deny all.
exactly, he mistakenly took physics and then he realize physics is out of his box resulting him to develop his own perspective.
@@teachmescience-ob8yv do you really trust that he is MSc in Physics?
I'm pretty sure he has a degree/certification in "jyotish Vidya". He mentioned in one of his videos.
Anticrepuscular rays are a meteorological optical phenomenon that appear as parallel shafts of sunlight that converge towards the antisolar point, which is the point in the sky opposite the sun:
Anticrepuscular rays occur when low-angled sunlight is blocked by cloud cover. They are similar to crepuscular rays, but are generally fainter and more elusive.
The apparent convergence of anticrepuscular rays is a visual illusion from linear perspective, similar to how parallel lines of a long straight road appear to converge at opposite points when viewed from above
On a flat Earth, the Sun shouldn't appear to rise or set; instead, it would fade as it moves parallel to the ground, appearing smaller as it moves away from the observer. However, in reality, the Sun remains the same size throughout the day. In fact, it often appears larger during sunrise and sunset compared to when it's directly overhead, which would be impossible on a flat Earth.
Additionally, how is it possible that sunlight reaches the Moon but not the Earth when they are at a similar distance? The Moon would also look the same every day if that were the case.
@@Ishraqiyyun because in their model, sun is not far away and it is not bigger than earth. It is just a small light source put up their by GaWd.
@@yourguyin2554😂😂
I am shocked how these type of debates still exist?
Me too
1.)Stars appear to move differently in the sky in the Northern Hemisphere as compared to the Southern Hemisphere
2.) boats seem to disappear as they go farther in the ocean and NO, no handheld camera or "nikon p900" can help you see them due to the curvature. also, one could say if stars are farther than boats moving on the ocean, why can we see stars and not the boats, maybe because the stars are bright. but then, what's brighter to us, stars or the sun, and if you (Yes the Flat Earth Ones) said sun, then tell us again what is closer to us at night, sun or the stars, and which of them is not visible?
3.) didn't some flat earthers do some experiment a while back where they stood quite a distance apart and cut holes in two wooden boards and then one guy stood on the other opposite end and shine a light through, they couldn't see the light until the guy on the other end raised the light above his head, sounds FLAT to me
4.) there is a 15 degree per hour drift considering the earth is not flat, and it can be measured by a gyroscope, it will show you 15 degree drift and even if you encase it in a zero gauss chamber, it will still be 15 degrees., wonder how much is it on a flat earth??
Bro no 2 can sut their mouth Easley😂
Chanakya is a true gentleman
Although he is wrong and totally opposite to our perspective and knowledge, he listens and argues calmly. I also didn't expect that such a hardcore believer will listen to kshitij bhaiya in a peaceful manner.
@@sinx_cosx he listens and argues calmly because he doesn't understand what Kshitij is saying.
This is same as smiling at someone who is abusing you in his language, if you don't understand, you won't feel offended.
@yourguyin2554 I kind of agree to you
But also he had pursued Masters in Physics
@@sinx_cosx I like your trustworthiness. However, I have followed him for quite a while now. I don't believe he has anything to do MSc. Physics. That is just a lie to try to establish some authority and credibility.
He knows, the first question anyone will ask is, "do you have any formal education in modern physics, to make these claims?"
Also, Indians, especially Hindus, are prone to fall for "argument from authority" which is a fallacy. Google it to know more.
He says he is MSC in physics
He is MSC in Dogma ❤
No. He is a conspiracy theorist, in the spectrum of dogma and skepticism, he is more on the side of skepticism than us and on the side of dogma less than us.
Edit: However it does not make his claims true.
He is a dropout after second year. Most likely he couldn't clear first year courses until his second year and left subsequently. What surpsises me is how did he get admitted to an institute like NIT Patna?
@@abhijitkhopkar1500 because he is not rattu tota like others
@mannug7275 Do you also believe like him Earth being flat?😄😄😄
*If you are a son of one father then debate "Arthur B. Flat", He Will Treat You Like A Princess*
In case of prism we generally take parallel incident ray in the form of beam or small light source which refract parallely .
At the smaller scale it does that’s the whole point of getting colours. Each wavelength refract differently
His only argument was: "Observe jo ho raha hai vo dekho na"
Hatsoff to your patience Kshitij! I couldnt do this for an hour haha!
If I got a dollar for everytime Chanakya said "observe" and denied giving any explanation, "Main reasoning nahi de raha", I would be decently rich compared to yesterday xD
😂😂
Mujhe lagta he ki ye sab schools me lack of live experiments ke wajah se ho rha he.😢
Bachhe bina dekhe maan hi nhi paa rhe kisi bhi science ke truth ko.
Humans bahot pehle se hi sari cheejon ko apne surrounding wale logic se dekhne ki kosis karta hai or ishi ke chakkar me hum isse jyada age ka kuchh imagine hi nhi kar paa rhe. School waloon ko imagination or experiments ke uper dhyan dena chahiye
Mujhe lagta hai prblm ye hai ki aadmi ko sidhi baat janni hai par mostly physics me starting me direct nhi padha sakte aadmi samajh hi nhi payega
Ye sab me hai chahe history ho ya religion ho unko seedhi baat janni hai par aage ka janne ke liye padhna padega phd tak research me jana padega koi bhi chiz ho vo karna nhi hai
Aur social media ke karan har chiz ka knowledge lene ka jane kya padi hai logo ko
Koi chiz ki sambhavna par baat hi nhi karni logo ko bas absolute truth bta do inko har chiz ka aur apne opposite side ke research karne vale se baat hi nhi karna bas chote mote jinko knowledge nhi hai unko hra diya hra diya karke apne supporters se badayi karwani hai kuch channel walon ko
Ye bhi prblm karte hai
America me 10 percent log mante hai ye kshitij bhai ne bola
Par waha to education kafi accha btate hai
Prblm baat na karne ka hai aur ye naye UA-camrs aa gye hai jo views ke liye jhuth bol dete hai unka samasya hai mtlb bhoot, astrology, sex, टोने टोटके bas yahi famous hai podcast par
@Pangeran_s I totally agree with you. Or ek baat gaur karo ki ye log science ko reject kar rhe he kyunki inke hisab se science me sar or pair nhi. Lekin fir jab ye log khudka kuch bhi bna rhe hein to usme bhi to kuch rules, laws ya assumption lga rhe he or uspe na jane kya kya bna rhe he.
Actually inko hate ya bewakoof bolne se ye log or provoke ho jaenge Hume inhe pyar se sari cheejon ko explain karna hoga.
@Pangeran_s Bas itni duwa karo ki ye jo division ho rha he, community ban rhe he inke beech koi wiwaad na ho jesse religion communities ke beech hota he
I bet kshitij couldn't even point out any single use of a globe earth in actual practicality
In reality we all use flat plane measurements for all practical purposes such as celestial navigation & sea farring which is not even possible on a globe earth
(celestial navigation is only possible by taking the base of the angles as flat)
Chanakya should convey these points more
Global time zone
GPS
Airline flight paths
Star and planetary motion
Shadows and the earth’s shadow during eclipses
Ocean tides
I can go on, but it’s better you first do some research and read science from class 4
@@astrokshitij you forgot, measurement of gravitational acceleration at a point on earth, isn't it required to calculate escape velocity which is an important parameter when launching rockets?
On one end, the ISRO chief tells us all science originated in the Vedas and on the other end, we have people who say that according to the Vedas and other texts, the earth is flat.
Wait until you figure out ki angles curve par bhi measure kar sakte hai
it's not their fault, cause they were never given answer to their questions and they are against it now.
1:12:04 this is truly nonsense.. what do u mean by jamin pe khare ho kar phir se observe karo? Obviously jamin pe khare hokar earth rest me hi dikheka but iska ye mtlb nahi hota ki earth rest pe hai. literally iss aadmi ko itna nahi pta hai ki earth ke motion ko earth pe se observe nahi kiya jaa sakta hai.
Earth pe se dekhne pe sunlight yellow dikhta hai kya iska mtlb usse yellow maan le??
NONSENSE..!
Please make a part 4 on crash course of quantum mechanics.
इनको earth की फोटो भी दिखा दिया जाए तो भी इनको conspiracy ही लगेगी
🤔bhai photo me earth spherical dikhti h...par geoid btate h..bs ye doubt h 😢
Accha hua bhai video call tha.
Samne baith k podcast kr rha hota to hath uth jata.
I've been following your content since your collab with Vimoh, and I absolutely love it. That said, I noticed you seem to have a bit of a hard time explaining your points clearly in this debate, which is understandable given the topic.
I do have a small suggestion, and I hope you'll take it positively. Instead of saying 'you know, right,' perhaps try asking 'do you agree?' This small change might help avoid triggering the other side to respond dismissively with 'yes, yes, I know' without really thinking. By asking 'do you agree,' you're inviting them to engage and reflect, which could lead to more meaningful dialogue. It also ensures you're both on the same page before moving forward with your explanation.
I agree with you, will try to be more clear!
@astrokshitij still watching. Haven't finished yet. Interesting video 😅
@@astrokshitijOkay now I've finished watching this. This is indeed a great video to start 2025 from your side. Hope to see your projects again and again and again. 😀
@@astrokshitijBhai agar earth flat hai to is hisab se to sab kuch flat hona chahiye, jese ki sun or others planets bhi flat hoge fir to 😂😂😂😂 ya inke hisab se sirf earth hi flat 😂😂😂
@@its_me_roney143 Sirf earth. Nothing else. 🤣🤣🤣
I am in class 11 (pcm) and I have three months left before the end of class 11.
I am interested in pursuing a degree in astrophysics and becoming a research scientist.
i wish to study in IISc, the IIST, or any other top university and college.
Since I did not study biology in class 11, I will be difficult for me to take the IAT after my 12th grade.
Could you please guide me as to what I can do?
You can give NISER entrance exam for integrated MSc. Or many IITs and NITs have Integrated BS MS programs, you can apply through JEE. If you don't crack any of them, then go for BSc from any college and prepare for JEST, IITJAM etc for Masters or Integrated PhD in top research institutes.
@@subhendukumarpatra2223 okay. thank you so much for telling
Give nest and IAT as well because they consider only three subjects where you done good. Or you can do Bsc from any good university and give IIT jam exam from where you can get both MSc and int MSc -phd in IIT ,nit and iisc and iist or even iiser ,nieser
Well I've a powerful point which no flat earther can explain and its that why Tides in ocean even emerges if there isn't any gravity, and also why only it gets even more Higher when the moon came slightly closer to earth, this phenomenon shows that there's must need of gravity to let this thing happen.
You're applying affirming the consequences logical fallacy
@Newmoon19 because gravity can be observed if you take two objects and put them closer to each other in empty space then they will start attracted towards each other which proves that some attraction force exist and Newton named that attraction force as gravity, it's clean what is the problem here?
earth is flat , forsure prooved
Earth is flat....
Earth is flat and stationary plane.. Earth is not a planet...
Earth measured flat.. for all practical purposes...
Because the Earth is far larger than you can imagine.
@lazycoder5872 What is the radius?
About 6400 km
Hygen wave theory is taught in school of class 12th.I have read
Please make a video on speed of light and why there is speed cap in the universe
T20 match mei mujhe laga flat earth wala pahali ball per bold ho jayega, lekin banda pura bees over tak khel gaya aur end mei match bhi undecided raha...maan gayen bro tumko ! 😊😊
Sirf afsos es baat ka hai ki jisne pahali ball par hi out ho jaana tha wo pura bees over khel gaya 😊😀
The thing I got to know is he is not able to distinguish between analogy & example. He is considering analogy as an example for the explanation. The arguments will never come to an agreement. Sad as he felt like a good person to talk 😢😢
Flat earth agr h to phir iska koi end point hoga जहां जाकर हम नीचे झांक सकते हैं जैसे हमलोग छत से नीचे झांकते हैं
Flat earthers ko nhi pta Antarctica se aage kya h 🫠(maybe niche giro ya fir koi invisible wall ho vha par ya kuch bhi)
@@DoctorSKSऐसे तो कोलंबस को अमेरिका से बाहर गिर जाना चाहिए था😂
bro is challenging science with help of science.
In conclusion, alpa bidya vaiikaram
What You’ll Learn:
The psychology behind why people fall for pseudoscientific claims.
How to engage in productive conversations with science skeptics.
The role of critical thinking in distinguishing facts from fiction
Its not even pseudoscientific, its totally unscientific
Kisne socha tha ki 21st century jo modern century hogi jaha science logic and intellectualism hogi..
Wohi science aj apni energy pseudoscience se debate karne me laga rahi...
Ye education and social system ke liye bhut harmful hai
Political cum Religious propoganda
Ye bhut badi wajh hai India ko backward le jane me
Khud PM jimmedaar hai iske and unki cabinet example;
1)PM publicly bol rahe ki India me plastic surgery sabse pahle suru hui ye mythology hai aur history bana ke present karna ye show krta hai ki desh ke PM ya to bhht darpok hain aur dharm se dare hue hain ya phir uneducated hain...
2)Sudhanshu bol rahe ki ohm= mc² bina padhe likhe Einstein ki Theory ye show krta ki wo dharm ke name par kitne andhe hain sirf political power banane ke liye Pseudoscience faila rahe...
3)Publicly parliament me bola ja raha Modern Science, Astrology ke samne kuch nhi..
Socho jab ye log Parliament me aisa bol rahe to socho common citizens ka kya hal hoga..
Science matters ❤✊
Agar upcoming generation ko superstition nd pseudoscience se bachana hai to
Students ko samne ana padega
I don't agree with your first point. Plastic surgery was known to mankind since ancient times. Maharishi Sushruta made great contributions to both plastic and cataract surgery. He maybe not the first person in history to do this but his method was much better than many European physicians in later centuries. To be honest the Earliest known reference to plastic surgery (I.e repairing a broken nose) has been found in an ancient Egyptian papyrus dating upto 1600 B.C
@agniswar3 we proudly say that India is a country where plastic surgery was begun... There is no debate it is fact!
But i am here to talk about mixing of mythology with history is not good as PM says 'Ganesha was example of plastic surgery he was just mythological being not historical'
Statement of PM is itself unscientific
about Ganesha and he was trying to mix mythology with history which is not good sign of intellectual progress) I am not against charak and Shushruta they are undoubtedly doctors of plastic surgery
@@praveenkushwaha9475 to be honest Ganesha's example is more like brain transplant and not plastic surgery.
Introduction se hi problem started. 😅😅😅
show him astronaut playing with water without any container
sab flat earthers ko rocket pe bithake space mebhejo or dikhao😅😅
😂😂😂
Kyu resources waste karna h bhai
Are bhai bhai 😂😂😂😂😂@@astrokshitij
Vo kahenge nasa ne bada sa koi projector lagaya hai 😂
I am stunned..!!
How can he believe in earth? There is no earth or sun or moon or gravity
Earth is Flat .........❤❤❤❤
I feel none of the arguments were discussed for conclusion, but i support FE as it makes lot of sence with normal logic and observations then with complex theories and assumptions. Sun rays are divergent and same is also evident in the background pic of the session 😊
Extra Complications ka zyadatar matlab hi ea ki baatome jhol hain!
Normal logic? Bald fellow the spelling is illogic not logic
Brother then ur normal logics are not normal they are abnormal
Please send its link to NASA, ISRO and The Kapil Sharma Show.
India’s got latent too
Few thoughts:
1. If you think that this is a long and painful debate/discussion, no. This is first time a Flat Earth video that I watched *without* skipping any time and this was very soft because I have watched 6 hour longs too 💀
2. Why do FEs needs to say about Gravity and satellites? Isn't it make almost negligible difference with GE theory by believing it? I mean isn't gravity (measurement) works same in both model? And if they just say those satellites are real, what's problem then? Instead of saying it is moving in space they can say, it is flying in sky or something lime that.
3. About conspiracy thing, he could say that Kshitij oversimplified it, it does not need to lie for everything and it does not need to convince thousands of people to lie.
4. I hope any FE will read this and answer the 2nd point but still one thing they didn't answered properly (And the easiest way to understand argument) that why sun rise/set this way, in their model it should rise like it is something is becoming clear and then growing in size and set like it is becoming small and small and after a point become foggy and foggy and disappear. Instead we see that it's size and visibility reamins the same and during sun set it go down! How it can be 0° angle there? Even with their perspective argument? 😂
Edit: I think a flat earth could be more fascinating because then we can have infinite resources like Minecraft 😂, (not Hunter X Hunter 💀)
It's of no use to disrespect people like these. It's moreover a mild psychological disability rather than stubbornness or dumbness. This is an extreme case of when people can not deal with mathematical abstraction at all. This is evident via multiple statements he made, like when he said that everything till 10th grade made sense, as no scientific maturity is introduced in the standard 10th grade curriculum, and things are kept very intuitive. It's also evident he is impatient regarding science, which is not at all good for any science person. Further, I noticed that he constantly implicitly states that he wanted to understand science in a bottom-up manner, like when he said that the fundamental stuff should be taught first. However, that's impossible for a civilization at our level which is still trying to figure out the majority of physics. This impatience, and inability to comprehend mathematical and scientific abstraction, paired with natural curiosity leads to frustration in such individuals which leads them to pursue less scientific but highly intuitive thoughts such as the flat earth. This is sad.
What the fuck this is so annoying what is he smoking
It's good. Chanakya 's channel is promoted here. That's what we wanted. Otherwise there is no point of debate without researching other's point of view deeply.
Tu jain hokar bhi flat earth par believe karta hai😂
@raya_ashok वैसे Jain astronomy fully flat Earth पर based हैं। No other religion has that deep structure & explanation as in Jains.
@@Rahul-Jain let me guess you are from Arts, who got low marks or may be failed 🤡🤣
Failed parentship leads to this
I am studying in class 11 commerce but jo mein inki baat suna inhone ne kaha ki ham observe karte hain ki clouds se aane wali jo lights hain wo angles mein aati hain ye ham observe karte hain lekin ham to ye bhi observe karte hain ki train ki patriyan dur jaate jaate hame converge hote hui dikhti hai iska mtlb ye thodi na ki patriyan sach mein converge ho rhi hain aur thora detail mein jaae to earth ka atmosphere me bhit Sari water and dust particles hoti hain jisse refrect hoke bhi light ko path thoda sa change hota dikhta hai plus mein clouds ke jo shadows hai wo bhi jitna ligt source ke nazdik hote hai wo utne hi kam hote hai aur dur jate jate shodows ekdum black ho jaate hai to mere hisaab se toh ye sab bate hai jinki wajah se hame light ek angle mein dikhti hain magar hoti parallel Hai 🙌
Mtlb kya bach kani si bate karte ho yaar 😂😂
where is the video link ?
Bhai mujhe maths me thodi problems ho rahi hai jaise splitting polynomial kya ye shuru me tough lagna natural hai??
kya acha science student banne ke liye gifted hona jaruri hai????😂
Haa it's completely natural if you feel that something's tough in the beginning
And no
It's not necessary for you to be gifted in order to become a science student
@Zenylxtia_991 umeed hai ki isko mere liye bhi sach hote dekhu
@Zenylxtia_991 thank you sir keep guiding students
It was so painful to listen to his 'explanations'! His sole funda is, "whatever my naked eyes can see, I'll believe only that much, only that is science!"
He is questioning like a kid 😂😂
21:45 actually, yaha pe unhe trigonometry samjhani chahiye thi.
Flat Earth par weather change kese hota hoga🤔🤔
Trust me they have explanation for everything
Indra dev weather change karte h
@@astrokshitij bhai aapki class laga di chankya tiwari ne...aapko pakka nind nahi aayi hogi raat ko 😂😂. .
Aap to mandir ka ghanta ho jise har koi Baja jaata h😂😂
@@astrokshitijbetter call is excuses than explanation
Instead of debating why not invite him then do a experiment simple one
Chanakya has proved his nature sense many times. That's one big reason he carries more weight whenever he is in debate.
Usually mai Kshitij ke channel par education ke liye aata hu, aaj entertainment ke liye aaya tha XD
इसको पूछो यदि फ्लैट अर्थ है तो अमेरिका से जापान जाने में बहुत समय लगना चाहिए क्योंकि दोनों फ्लैट अर्थ के दोनों सिरों पर है😂
पर रूस और अमेरिका जापान तीनों पास ही है😂
अंटार्कटिका का पानी पिघला तो क्या होगा😂
bro you should have asked, if air is lightest of all then why it dies not escape from flat earth.
40:00 that's the way how shortest path for planes are assumed 🤣🤣🤣
If you will trace planes path on a 2d map (in flightradar24) you can observe that the planes are traveling in a curve path
🤣🤣🤣
True
Our education system has failed kya citizen😢
Mujhe feel hua k Kshitij bhai ko physics k terms me nahi samjhana tha wo hmesha us explanation ko ignore kr rha tha.
Msc physics bhale hi ki hai. But sirf ye nahi ki earth spherical h balki har baat ko nahi maan rhe. Huygen principal ho ya jo bhi.
Wo bs pure basic observation kya h wo dekho bol rhe.
Kshitij bhai pure basic observations pe challenge krte to better hota.
Kyuki hm aor deep jaate jayenge to sab chize badlengi bhi quantum level pe jayenge to.
Example Agar hm close to speed of light se move karen aor solar system se guzre.. to hmko earth aor sab planets flat elliptical plate jaisi dikhengi.
Bro It's a very Educational video but please don't use much flashy and bright transitions , it really hurts eyes
पृथ्वी चपटी है
😂
Aur sqaure bhi
Random fact 99% flat earth people are modi bhagts
i have an experiment to prove gravity for flatearthers which challenges their density theory very strongly and it's cheap.
Bhai agar ye log density pe vishwas krte hai to earth ko to lagatar fall karna chaiye tha
Simple, kisibhi vaccum chamber me agar koi bhi chiz girai jaye to vi niche ani hi nhi chahiye fir, no air no density
I am from uttarakhand i can show yoU satelite moving in sky
Iske hisab se Illusion nam ki chij hoti hi nhi h😊
I think he's just a POE.
He has one physiology to believe to easier things and thinks what he knows is actually it is and denies to see from others perspective.
Btw the buoyancy thing argument in flat earth is circular bcz you can't explain why denser objects sink and less dense objects move upward in a fluid without "gravity".
Whole universe is rotating around earth,😂. Earth be like apun hi bhagwan he
Koi sattelite nam ki chij hoti hi nhi 😂 Deva re deva😅
Es varat man bharat ko chanakya jaise uchch kotike vicharo vale logo ki jarurt hai
Props to Kshitij to listen to this bullshit and also not completely destroying him with facts and he even allowed him to speak his bullshit
Bhai bande ke physics smj me hi nahi aai ....नाच ना जाने आँगन टेढ़ा..bus itna कहना ठीक हैं
44:54-44:58😂 kshitij be like achha achha me samaj gaya app bohi chij keh rahey ho na, hmmmm😂 bo galat hey 😂, bo part mujhe bahat funny laga and achha bhi laga 😊
Bhai abhi abhi chanakya tiwari bhai ki arpit explain aur human with science ki video dekh ke aa
Raha hu ye banda kuch samjta nahi hai
Bro Link dena dono video ka
Kya mst joke mara h flat Earther ne haso re sab😂😂😂😂
Jo log falt earth me believe karte hai unko puri geography bhi explain karni padegi firse 😂
Earth is flat and stationary
Yeh bimari INDIA main kab ayi.
2016 se outbreak start hua tha ab badh gai h
@@astrokshitij Recently a flat-earther named Jeran set up a elaborate experiment (KUDOS to him for setting up an experiment) with laser light and hole to prove earth is flat and accidentally proved its globe.
Mana X=earth flat 😅😅 maths students
Good 👍
flat earthers ; science is fakeee
also flat earthers; doctor sahab mujhe theek kro bahut dard ho rha
Bhai sirf bolne se proof nhi hota 🤔
😂 1:12:05 ye sirf observe hi karta rahega
Basically isse complex chize samjhi nahi jaa rahi thi to ye bas conspiracy failane me help kar raha hai
Bhai science is simple
Chanakya bhai ko telescope gift kerdo sir
Earth flats hai to plate tectonic kese hote is debate ka koi logic nehi hai
Bhai log like bhi karo itna kam like ❤❤
Chanakya Niti me likha he ki kisi murk ko samjhane sebari murkhta koi nhi hoti, the level of BS he was spitting gave me migraines, bhaiya plz educated logo koh laya karo channel me.
Mai pura dekhna chahta hu but kasam se continue nhi kar paa rha hu 40:07 ke baad 😢😢
Bhai yesi debate aur discuss wali videos laya kro, kafi knowledge mitla hai 👍
नकली शिक्षा और नकली विज्ञान आये हुए मामूली साल हुए हैं
I think Musk should catch him and should send to space so that he realize everything
Bhai agar earth flat hai to is hisab se to sab kuch flat hona chahiye, jese ki sun or others planets bhi flat hoge fir to 😂😂😂😂 ya inke hisab se sirf earth hi flat 😂😂😂
They just observe
kyaa Kshitij bhai, itne der me apni kisi philosophy kaam krte to shayad nayi soch mil jaati😅. btw lagta hai aapne hamse badla liya hai like 'mai fasaa hu to ab tumlog bhi faso' 😂