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- Опубліковано 8 вер 2024
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On this week's episode of TheFallenState TV, host Jesse Lee Peterson is joined by Shakka Ahmose. Shakka Ahmose is a research specialist in Ancient Egyptian History, and also the founder of the Nile Valley Movement. In this fascinating exchange, Jesse asks Shakka about the purpose of the Nile Valley Movement, and how black people are connected with Ancient Egyptian History. Jesse also wants to know why Shakka left the Christian church, and what his beliefs are now as it relates to Ancient Egyptian culture and religion. They also touch on modern race relations-you don't want to miss it!
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why don't the black community care about slavery going on in Africa that's actually happening today.. it's hard to believe that Africans are slaving each other still.
@@MikeJones69696 not that hard when you factor their lack of Sapience and how that renders a very compartmentalized paradigm that facilitates corruption~destruction of morality and forms shady ethics~codes of conduct to substitute for that missing sense of right v.s wrong.
ALSO, WHITE PEOPLE DONT CARE ABOUT RACE. BUT BLACK PEOPLE HAVE THE HATRED. THEY ARE THE ONES SAYING THEY CREATED THE WHITE MAN. OR ARE THE REAL JEWS. BUT HISTORY SAYS THEY ARE THE A RACE THAT JUST CRAWLED OUT OF THE BUSH AT THE MOST 400 YEARS AGO. ASIANS AND WHITES HAVE BEEN CIVILIZED FROM THE BUSH 2500 TO 6000 YEARS AGO. FACTS
@@linyenchin6773 Or it could be the culture that causes rape, thief, murder, bio engineering of food, eugenics, causing scarcity, poverty, deforestation, pollution, nuclear and chemical warfare. Colonization, feudalism, communism, socialism, capitalism, marxism, destroying the planet and its inhabitants. it seems like they only know wrong and destruction.
Can you please talk about the NZ anti-mandate for vaccination protest.
We need the coverage and lots of people. I can link to the live feed if needed.
Big ups for Shakka! Been watching him for a while and shout out to Jesse for inviting him !
What a genuinely good man. He articulated his point well without trying to seem right or more educated. He listened and responded to Jesses points. He was incredibly respectful about the way Jesse runs his show. Although I don’t agree with all of the things that he says, this was an all-around great guest who is willing to engage in conversation like a gentleman. The internet needs more voices like this guy.
He just went on, spoke too much of nothing, could not just answer a question... wat da!
@@Super-by8nb I think a lot of the guests on this show can’t answer some questions. All you can ask from a guest is to be respectful and to engage with Jesse. I think that this man did that very well and for that I’m happy he was on the show this week.
Sadly they try to shut down every right leaning interviewer. The right is curious and wants to know how things work. The left don't want to listen to what others have to say or figure out how things work.
@@cannongerber3257 The dude was a mess, he is all into trying to point out that 3000 yeasr ago black Egyptians had white slaves as if that makes him feel better. Then he made research on Jesse and still was a mess.
@@Super-by8nb Listen man, I genuinely didn’t agree with almost a single thing that he said. I just think that he conducted himself very well and is the example of what online should look like. Unless you just want to see videos of people agreeing with each other.
Jesse bring this guy back!! This was easily the best conversation you've had in a long time. Just like this guy said he apologizes for judging Jesse before talking to him, I also judged this guy before listening to him. Cool guy.
Beautiful man
But why did u judge him before listening to him?
Because he looks ridiculous (and makes matching dumb claims). That beind said, he is a kind-hearted man.
@@Sandertie1 lol he looks ridiculous because he’s different ?
@@charmhadmosby6766 Nah, because he looks like a... BETA
Very good guest. He's not afraid to answer questions. That's a real man.
This interview was a rollercoaster till the very end. I enjoyed it...
THEY BLAT
Let me share something with u
Guest: Ancillary way
Jesse Lee: And silly way
@@md2949 I learned something tonight. "SHARE" shuts nice people up.
@@jaketyme7671 lol! I lost it at that. Lost it and had a mini stroke. Jessie can do no wrong.
Probably my favorite guest in some time. He dropped some serious issues with the 'forbidden conversation' on the history behind the races. And I really enjoyed his historical perspective, hes clearly well educated theres no doubt, I wanna learn more about this guy.
UA-cam shaka ahmose.
@@nkosistrainbullies5806 he's a history thief and a culture vulture
Most knowledgeable and respectful pro black guest I’ve ever seen on JLP , hope he comes back ! this was an AMAZIN SHOW !
History is a lie agreed upon... Napoleon Bonaparte. One of my favorite quotes.
@@peacefulwarrior4151 you’re a hater just lie Napoleon Bonaparte
@@peacefulwarrior4151 I disagree with a lot of what he said. , But I respect his conviction of what he believes and his willingness to dialogue with a guy like Jesse , we all know Jesse is TOUGH to debate. Shaka did an AMAZIN JOB against a the GREAT Jesse Lee Peterson
@@FBA2024-o Jesse lee Petersen is NOT an informed intellectual debater. He,is a shock jock entertainer like Howard Stern. Therefore, his questions and comments are designed to obtain an emotional response from his guest. Guest who study this 21th century minstrel will avoid following him down his rabbit hole. This guest avoided most of Jesse's traps.
knowledgeable in utterly useless his-story that doesn't push Black Americans forward...
When Jesse said “and silly way” I lost it. This man is a Grade-A troll no one can convince me otherwise.
This guy handled Jesse’s trolling tactics like a seasoned Pro ! ✌️
Being long winded, isn’t being a pro. 🙄
Not really, you saw the mama come out of him (briefly) … it was 👍🏽
@@WhateverWhateverwtghvh You’re either socially inadequate or willingly ignorant if you think Jesse doesn’t troll. “Cult lord” detected, it’s amazing how a human can be so infatuated with a another human being that their brain will retreat from ever seeing flaws in that person.
This makes you look subhuman because you’re submissive to the ideologies of another human to the point your brain doesn’t the have the capability or function to look at things independently or objectively you’re pretty much a NPC. Your soul is the property of Jesse’s.
@@TheRoundtable_RTG "seek help" is a common empty liberal insult. "I'm smarter than you so you need help"
Imagine using the 'ad hominem' fallacy by calling someone a 'troll' then expecting people to take you seriously. I can't even do anything but laugh at these people with zero self-awareness they engage in textbook logical fallacies. Dunning-Kruger to the max.
Haven't seen Shaka in years. This was a great interview.
I think Shakka did an excellent job. I remember on one of his live streams he said he was thinking about coming on this show shout out to Sa neter Tv for introducing Shakka
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@@halfmanhalfamazing9812 💯💯💯💯💯💯💯💯💯💯
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Great Show , Shaka Was very precise and took over JLP show! I hope Shaka gets more listeners .
Like how you wrote Shaka. There was a Zulu king called Shaka. This brother is very smart.
Shakka is way too intelligent for race baiting and religious dogma. His knowledge is way to deep
I thought this was a very good conversation, he was well spoken and listened while keeping an open mind. It was AHmazin!!
I can't believe he watched The Jesse Lee Peterson show & still came on... Respect to Shakka Ahmose & Jesse Lee Peterson!
🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣
Its a convo. Stop being a nerd
Why would the guest NOT come on JLP’s show after watching a few episodes? He’s a man, just as JLP is. Real men don’t fear other men, especially those of JLP’s caliber.
@@claytonbigsby2192 because JLP is a troll that pretends that he doesn’t know what he’s doing.
Yet Ahmose actually is politely putting J in his place at around 30 mins. I like how he is handling JLP although when it comes to podcasts and talk shows and interviews these days the host is the one who tries to handle the guest and the host and premise has a different world view than the guest. I am so impressed by Shakka so far in this interview.
@@SheaLaVie Amen, Sis. JLP is a mental weakling who doesn’t read and can barely comprehend. This brother put him in his place with facts and you could actually see JLP learning. He ran into a well-educated, well-read man who knows his history.
This was the best guest I have seen on your show Jesse and I have been watching daily for 7 years.
This guy seems like a really nice guy.
Jesse is bent on insulting blacks, but he claims he has the solution. The guest go it right he is part of the problem, he is promoting racism and division the very thing that he says he does not exist. HYPOCRITE of all HYPOCRITES
@@mattmatthews3689 I love Jesse. Everyone is hypocritical at times. I think his positives outweigh his negatives.
He NYYYYCE
Yeah, maybe at his core he is good, he has just been misled and decieved.
Very likeable personality.
A beautiful demonstration of Ma"AT and Hotep....Shaka Ahmose....making us proud.
This guest is a 9 out of 10. Meaning he is a wonderful guest. Need more guess like him. Amazing!
Interesting, respectful guest who actually listens to Jesse and doesn't fall into anger... Great interview!
As a white and quick, I enjoyed this intellectually stimulating conversation.
PS:
Ask your doctor to prescribe something for your quick discharge, your wife might not like that...
@@linyenchin6773 Being slow has its advantages...
Quick that’s what she said ☕️
@@linyenchin6773 it supposed to be wham bam thank you ma’am
@@bgboy4861 only for Humans, not so much for most us blahts because that is most of our persona ...
Good conversation. Shakka handled the conversation well.
I can listen to shakka speak all day! You definitely should have him back ! Shakka is a man of many talents including music!!!!!... Respectful conversations like this on a big platform is refreshing! The fallen state is amazin!!! For having Shakka!!!!!
SHAKKA AHMOSE IS A LIVING LEGEND PEACE LOVE AND RESPECT 🔥🔥🔥🔥♥️🖤🤍💚🖤💛🇹🇹🇯🇲
How is a person that is not of love a legend?
Most definitely a legend
@@81surreal
TOU’RE PROJECTING YOUR HEART, WHICH IS WITHOUT LOVE.
Shakka Ahmose is very educated historian. He's a student of the Master Historians.
I love the way Shakka engaged with Jesse, didn’t get thrown off by his unorthodox questions, knew when Jesse was trying to get a rise out of him and still stayed the course. I’m just upset Shakka didn’t get a chance to really answer some of the questions
They should do a part two interview amazing interview
I actually like Shakka. He seems like a chill guy.
Lol nahhh Shakka will make you feel bad about yoself if you don’t know wtf you talkin about…this is a serious issue and he addresses it in his way in his channels
Shakka - "In an ancillary way"
Jesse - "What do you mean by supportive and silly way"
Like what! 😂😂😂😂😂
brother man, I volunteer at the continental studio for about 2 years. and I did Jesse's show I was the floor manager. Jesse always speaks against black people. it does not matter what it is. RESPECT
Everyone is my friend until they prove not to be. This is how I live my life.
Awesome guest! Bring Shakka back! He keeps it real! ✊🏽
Shakka always speaks so eloquently. Great debater.
Such a peaceful guest. No ego, its refreshing , and he is no victim either!
i hope Shakka is doing well
Genuinely enjoyed his answer to what is a man and what is love. Great answers!
Ive watched hundreds of Jessie episodes and I’m always left asking myself, do Jessie’s audience, particularly his white fanbase actually buy into his narrow minded rhetoric. Im referring to his constant praising of what’s “white” and demonizing blacks. Does his audience actually take him serious and actually subscribe to this narrative or do they view him as simply playing a character and know it’s just entertainment? Honest question.
Jesse just wants more for "Black people" he is just full of "tough love".
@@dru7277 he is FULL of Something Else!
@@dru7277 I think you’re right and I hope Jesse doesn’t believe everything he says. I’m under the impression that he’s trolling people to challenge ideas that he thinks held him back and might hold others back. I’m a big fan of Thomas Sowell and in an interview or two Jesse did agree with Thomas Sowell that culture and family structure/family values are determining factors to any groups success and family and culture were my biggest obstacles in life. I think Jesse wants what’s best for everyone for black peoples and is bringing attention to family values and culture issues.
Jesse probably couldn’t even follow what was being said.
That guy didn't say much of substance tbf
@@chuck9483go back to school if you can’t comprehend
@@kwamemaatranyame-mentuhote9952 I comprehended it. It wasn't very complicated. You must have had a hard time.
@@chuck9483 not at all he gave evidence & source material to research . Your probably ignorant to the facts so you missed the “ substance ” of the conversation
@@kwamemaatranyame-mentuhote9952 no he didn't give any facts or any legitimate research. He's just a goofy N.
Enjoyed the convo. The guy made some good points about Jesse truly “knowing” from so called revelation alone. (Jesse believes in knowledge by revelation alone). We should always question those who say they know
No, that asessment is the limit of your paradigm, it isn't correct just slanted to your cognitive restrictions(you are stupid). JLP is about "be," not so much "believe" aka opinion. He is about observation more than conclusion, understanding rather than mere knowledge~facts aka intellect~memory.
It isn't mere k owing but being, he is still enough to see what is, as it is, though wording it is difficult due to his low mastery of words. He is also inhibited by the general public's sense of words being pigeonholed into various angles of bias, bias which hinders~diffuses the average person's attention and awareness. This keeps them~you from properly encapsulating anything he would propose about his direct perception of reality.
this is blatantly false because as Christians we are all of One Mind and that Mind is that of the creator. When you are born again and can see and realize that all thoughts are lies you no longer have your own opinions or beliefs and your "mind" of chaos and darkness is replaced by the One Mind of the Creator. And thru the ONLY revelation, God's perfect revelation everything is one and the same.
@@metalkicker23 which God ? lol. And can two Gods give a contradicting revelation ? WAKE UP.
@@linyenchin6773 So you just said a whole lot of nothing . Jesse actually believes he is right, and other people are wrong, imagine the ego to believe this. And your ego to actually believe that you can kiss your own ass. You guys make a cute couple, with Jesse's giant ego, to actually believe that he is a conduit to God and your giant ego that you are the Jesse whisper, you guys can take your show on the road.
@@map96 you are lost in your own imagination, pretending its interpretation is correct understanding of mu intent instead if your own insecurity posing as "authority."
By far the best Conversation I’ve heard on the channel 🔥🔥🔥
absolutely amazing 😅 OMG no way that guy is 85! that has blown my mind! super enjoyed this one Jesse, please bring this gentleman back i would love to hear more from him and see where he at now 👍🙏
The point is to reach people .. do your thing Jessie .. Amazing!
From Saneter Tv to The Fallen State. Peace to the brother Shakka Ahmose💪🏾
This guy is a very respectful individual. We are all brothers and sisters and descendants of the the very first two people created by God. Shades of people come from being in a certain location for extended periods of time. People closer to the equator get a lot more sun exposure which is where melanin comes from. And vise versa for people that settle in colder regions with little to no sun exposure. And all shades of people had slaves and also conquered land. I hope love, forgiveness, and prosperity come to all of us. The human race.
Naw buddy
White people created racism dude and now want to be forgiven for creating such a evil advantageous results that still linger on and needs be reversed before more future kids won't die due to poverty and racism that still exists sir
First 2 people????? This gotta stop 😂
I stopped watching the pro black community years ago b/c of the 🐂💩 and ignorance by a lot of those guys. I knew about Shaka but never really listened to him. I gotta go check him out now. One of the best interviews ever i can dig it 💪🏾💪🏾💪🏾🔥🔥🔥
He has poise and presentation but still the bullshit persists within the paradigm
The more ignorant that Jesse became the more poised and intelligent Shaka became...salute Shaka...Jesse is proof that you can't teach what you don't know.
Jesse basically became the Student..
I understand more and more why Jesus wept, blind and cannot see.
He's also proof that he is ignorant.
Actually I didn't know whites were slaves to blacks either,,, I don't think anybody did!... because IT'S NOT TRUE! kind of like how hes 85 years old and his mother is 80😅
@@amazin1827It’s not true because you don’t know it? Great logic!😂
Only one word describes this episode, Amazin!
Great show , great guest . Fantastic
It's so refreshing to see someone with just an open mind. I don't even care at this point that they may not agree w/ everything I'm about, but just being able to have a conversation is nice.
Shakka is a legend
I wish that I could meet Shakka Ahmose and spend at least 3 days learning and receiving engagement from him. That brother is intellectually and spiritually divine!!!!! 💫
He got good points . Great guest. Amazin
11minutes in and the show is already amazing. Great job fellas! 💯
I truly enjoyed this conversation. Definitely should have him again. Thank you Shakka!! Thank you JLP and team!!
I’ve been trying to put my finger on the one frustrating tactic Jessie uses, and Shaka nailed it lol. Speaking beliefs or assumptions as fact. “No I know!” Called it miner league lmao. If Jessie’s goal is genuine he should take this man’s words into consideration.
I like Jesse but he really doesn't know a whole lot about anything. This other guy really showed that to be true unfortunately
Shakk, you did your thing sir.
Salute Sa Neter and The HOK!!!
Shakka dominated this interview in every category
I dont usually login to comment this early ...but this guy seems really really really chill wow. Like i like him. He doesnt seem super arrogant snd is incredibly friendly rather than antagonistic.Even Jessies usual trolshl tactics he handles gracefully.
He actually made some fair points. Good interview!!
I liked his comments regarding shame from the past and how in a way its like that shame coping mechanism will often not allow a true "meeting off the mind" betwixt those who've been through something disturbing, mistaken etc.
JLP is the ultimate troll and I appreciate the satire. The issue is some of the people in this audience actually take a lot of the rhetoric serious and not as entertainment...
Facts! It’s funny because I think he’s actually exposing them and they don’t know it.
Do you remember when lebron James talk against slavery and then next day later having slaves from China make his products and profit from it. Proudly..😐
@@MikeJones69696 stay on topic in my comment threads. I don't like people being off topic in my comment threads. It shows lack of comprehension and stupidity...
@@BtheOutLIer facts = beliefs, there is no other way to "know" facts but to believe in them, believing is remembering.
JLP has been saying the same things for 20 years
Shakka Ahmose made a great statement on Jesse Lee’s disparaging remarks about Black people. “The company that you keep”. Who and what kind of people does Jesse Lee associate with? Does he even have friends?
the undefeated champion JESSE LEE PETERSOOOONNNNNN!!!!!!!!!! once again
He cooked jesse what are you listening too? LOL
I’m very familiar with Shaka. First time here, Shaka brought me. Kinda frustrating not letting Shaka teach.
Watch this a few times. One of, if not the best guest of all times. Next I would love to see Jesse on Shakka's podcast
He wouldn’t last
I didnt know Jesse interviewed Shakka haven't seen him since SaNeter TV debates. Wow! He's well known in the "conscious community"
Yep he's been on Jesse's show 2or3 times now 😐
@@BenBen-kh1dm ok
Two of my favorite debaters… I can’t wait to watch this!!! 👍🏾😁👍🏾
Shakka was on 🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥 this was absolutely amazing. I love how he wasn't triggered by Jesse.
Great interview! I like it when Jesse has smart people to talk to.
Shaka is meme royalty. He is ultimately the father of "we wuz kangs"
That was an awesome interview/discussion 👌 👏 we're need more people like him on the show 👏👏👏👏
GOOD INTERVIEW SHAKKA VERY HUMBLE AND FULL KNOWLEDGE
What is funny that every time one of Jesse's guests start speaking facts and the truth that proves him wrong he wants to go to another subject and cuts them off
🤭🤭 I noticed that too
Shakka is the definition of good faith here.
He would be really cool to talk with.
Globalism v Nationalism was def. one of the best questions asked. I wish we could have known more about if he sees himself as a member of a group or of the species.
For the first time I respect the comments section underneath Jessie lee petersons post! Very logical perspectives here
Fax
This was very great interview way to go Shakka 👏🏾👏🏾👏🏾👏🏾👏🏾
The BEST part is when Shakka states," I learn from everyone!"
Awesome interview! A lot of respectful back and forth!
At the 13th minute - "Assumption is based on what's seen on the surface" - Amen. I knew it but learned something today!
Excellent Interview, I'm hoping JLP goes on Shakka Amose show. Shakka said a lot on this show and the most important statement made was "once you learn history it changes you". One of our biggest downfalls is Not knowing factual history. 💯 Great job Shakka 👏🏿
This was the most genuine attempt at conversation by any opposition I’ve seen on this channel. Bravo to him for having a very honest conversation while simultaneously making his points concise and clear.
This brother called JLP on his BS and came across as powerful. I agree, JLP treats most black guest like crap.
This dude is just a clown. JLP is the GOAT 🐐
Facts Jessie is playing a roll as a troll
The guy was long winded, nobody ain’t got time for that. 😴
@@kittenpawsbb long winded? Only to people who have short attention spans and lack the mental capacity to comprehend multiple words with multiple syllables. The rest of us see him as a well-spoken, bright man. JLP loves keeping you duds dumbed down and you make it so easy for him.
@@kittenpawsbb you’re about as bright as a blown bulb.
WOMEN THAT HAVE BEEN ABUSED BY YOUR MATE AND CHILDREN ALSO, LOVE THEM ANYWAY AND CONTINUE TO BE KIND TO THEM AND SERVE THEM WHOLE HEARTEDLY. LOVE REIGNS SUPREME. WEAR YOUR BLACK EYES PROUDLY!!!😄😍THATS THE MESSAGE FROM OLE JESSE.
If blacks really wuz kangz, shouldn't their modern day descendents be the most technologically and spiritually advanced on the planet?
That's what I thought
Stupid statement. BAY-DUH!
there are winners and losers in history and different people get a turn. the romans looked at egyptians as more civilized and smarter than the druids and the inhabitants of britania. they looked at them as savages. and africans basically had their land taken , put not allowed to have any autonomy, educaation and things like that. there are many factors. and just like japanese and chinese arent the same africa is made up of many, many people. some are going to be more intelligent than others
There should not be a black and a white culture, there should just be an American culture.
"I am afraid that there is a certain class of race-problem solvers who don't want the patient to get well, because as long as the disease holds out they have not only an easy means of making a living, but also an easy medium through which to make themselves prominent before the public." - Booker T. Washington
Jesse let him speak! Shakka knows what he's talking about..
This is the calmest I've ever seen Shaka. Jesse says what he says for shock value and I'm proud of Shaka for not feeding into it.
Shakka episode is great. Hope Jeese brings him back for another episode. Despite having their differences. I understand guess reason. I left Christianity myself college start learn about ethics even psychology. I did learn afterwards african spirituality.
No matter what Jesse Lee guest tries to educate Jesse he is so out of contact not interested in having an open mind all ways disrespectful and a one track mind.
Probably my favorite guest I’ve seen on here so far!!! All around awesome person!!!
Shakka is the best and Jesse well i don’t have no words except sad… I cant with him 😂
Doesn't matter who was here first , unfortunately only the strongest survive. I wish we could all come together
Didn’t he continually say people are enslaved by the literature they read?
Then how does he know ancient Egyptian history? Did he go back in time and witness it first hand?
Lol
I think he was just saying don't make history a religion like many of the mainstream scholars have done over the years. Shakka has been an independent researcher in the black community for the last 30 years in New York.
Oh damn Shakka Ahmose the Jesse Peterson show!
Jesse Lee Peterson is amazing.
Jesse is bent on insulting blacks, but he claims he has the solution. The guest go it right he is part of the problem, he is promoting racism and division the very thing that he says he does not exist. HYPOCRITE of all HYPOCRITES
uhmazin
@@mattmatthews3689 I agree. Every RACE in America has contributed to the growth and demise of America. He is exactly what he loathes.
You sound soft giving another man such overtly high praise.kinda beta like your cult leader Peterson is
@@mattmatthews3689 very well said sir and I concur with u
WOW, I love his conversation with Mr Peterson. He is so right with what he is saying, but it's going in one ear of Mr Peterson and out of the other!!! Take time and listen Mr Peterson!!!!
I thought this dude was gonna be like those Hebrew Israelites, but naw ! He ain't come to play . Took Jesse to school here, great interview, very informative stuff , he understands Jesse's tactics and handled himself well here with good grounded calm energy .
He took us down the school of the lost, but he’s a nice guy.
Egyptians werent black but he is a nice guy
@@copyrightcharacter1166 I never said they were ??
@@copyrightcharacter1166 The original Khemites falsely called Egyptians were Black, dark skin woolly-haired people (African). The lighter skinned were a result of invasion of the Greeks etc Hyksos Dynasty.
Yeah, you can always tell who's in control by whom loses their temper, or are tempered. Like steel, being tempered means that you are stronger.
The real uncle Ruckus
collected and level-headed. good guest and overall episode