And the moment Walt realized that Gus could never be worked with, as he would always cut loose ends any chance he got. Including Walter, inevitably. The only saving grace Walt had was that Gus was willing to let "natural causes" take care of him. But either way, working with Gus has a limited clock. Even Mike understood that much, which is why his 9 guys in prison were so important, as they gave him protection from Gus. Those were Mike's guys, and they were willing to rat on both Gus and Walt if Mike went down or stopped paying them. None of these people trusted each other, but they needed each other. Unfortunately Gus couldn't let his bloodthirst go for two seconds and let the worthless junkie live. It divided him and Walt to an irreparable level.
@@renaldoawes2210 I don't think Mike thought of his guys as a shield. If Walt could kill all of them in prison, Gustavo 100% could, having way more connections and money than Walt. Mike was never afraid of Gustavo, he doesn't need a shield. He was perfectly confident he could kill both Gustavo and Victor when Gustavo had a gun on him in BCS.
@@VDA19 I feel like he did after Better Call Saul, and how Gus in BB killed effectively everyone he ever worked with. Even slitting the throat of one of his top guys. Gus knew "getting out" was effectively impossible with Gus, and I imagine he took precautions to keep himself from becoming easily.... replaced.... lmao.
@@renaldoawes2210 As we see in BCS, Mike was always Gustavo's top guy during BrBa. I really don't think he was ever in danger of being replaced or killed. He straight up disobeyed Gustavo to his face when Gus wanted to kill Nacho's dad and Victor aimed a gun at him. Anyone else did that and they'd be dead.
He might have been saying that as a badly functioning car is one way of allowing the Police to get an inroad into your life. A bad idea for a criminal.
@@terrortorn Of course. However, in instructing him to get it fixed (in light of that), he knew it would let Walt know he was gonna survive that meet. Otherwise it was a pointless piece of advice.
After watching BCS, I just imagine the thoughts going through Mike's head. "I told Saul. I friggen told him. Don't get involved with the psycho chemistry teacher. No one listens to ol Mike even though I'm always right. Fuckin kids these days."
Johnathon Banks is laughing his butt off here. It's the one time where he looks like it's all funny. Probably trying to get Cranston and Esposito to crack too.
The way he said, "I would never ask that of you," to actually mean, "I know you would, so there's no point in me even asking that question to begin with," is brilliant.
@@GoGetYourShineboxI believe he ordered it. There's no way those two drug slinging gang banging goons of his would murder that kid without his approval. That would basically be suicide
3:59 a large proportion of crime consists of pointless exercises, as much as the centralized control of criminal activity would like to make it consistent, linear and predictable.
Plus threatening to kill Walt’s wife and children if he interfered any further with sabotaging Gustavo’s revenge schemes on Hector and letting the brother in law Hank live. As Peppy Hare in Star Fox: Assault once said, “You never know what a cornered beast might do.” And cornering Walter White is what ultimately got rid of both Gus and Hector Salamanca.
@@ExtremeSpeedMewtwo Walt shouldve killed Jesse? But I thought people love Jesse. I mean people love him so much they ignore that Gus and Mike wanted Jesse to be "gone" and forced Walt to decide for Jesse or against him.
@marragonn it was all Walt fault. If that fool didn't snitch on Jesse when he wanted to take care of the drug dealers. They wouldn't have been in this situation. Gus and Mike treated Jesse better than Walt ever did
All Gus had to do was accept the death of 2 nameless, worthless goons. He still had his premier chef with him, Walter is worth a hundred nameless dealers. But Gus just couldn't let that go and it's so infuriating.
Also why Gus had 2 worthless junkies selling teenth of dope, if he was a big wholesaler doing 200lb per week? That doesn't make any sense! Selling the blue stuff right there in Albuquerque knowing that the DEA was looking for it?
He did choose Option B. It was from this moment on Gus had every intention of killing Walt when the time was right. The only thing stopping him was his line of product.
This is probably one of Walt's coolest moments. Going toe to toe with Fring without flinching and stating his case clearly, concisely, and without waver. Excellent scene.
It almost got him killed. He shouldn't have challenged Fring so openly. He mistakenly thought that Fring had two options, presenting these to him, whereas Fring immediately revealed to him a third option, to effectively replace him with Gale.
@@jsembler1 thats what walter thought and it almost got him killed. its not wrong per se, but it becomes irrelevant when you make fring think you are a reckless cannonball and impossible to work with
He didn't help his situation whatsoever. He could have been more contrite, and try to regain Gus' faith that he would be a good underling. Instead he showed Gus arrogance and borderline disrespect, while basically being a newcomer nobody. Who of course, turned out Gus underestimated.
@@jonnylawless6797lo mata entre por ego, ofensa y creo que ya a ese punto le tenía rencor, literalmente era una piedra en el zapato y una venganza no le caería mal apesar que ya no podía hacer nada encontrá de el
@@juanpablogarcia6293 nunca entendí ese diálogo eso sí, obvio que Walter estaba feliz de matar a Gus por tema de ego, pero siento que se olvida que en realidad fue pq Gus iba a matar a pinkman y dsps a él mismo
@@XeDuZpeople just love to ignore this whole thing with Gus wanting to Kill Jesse etc. They want to see Walt as some crazy guy who did things for no reason.
"I would never ask you that" - The way Walter says it... It's almost like "yeah, that's exactly what I'm suggesting". Great acting here. It's impossible to know what Walt is thinking throughout the show, same goes for Gus. I would love to see both of them share a project in the near future!
Walt says he would never ask if Gus ordered the murder of a child, but not that Gus would never do such a thing. Gus has this false sense of honor all throughout BCS and Breaking Bad and Walt sees right through that shit.
Agree with above, and Walt is also acknowledging that to ask, or even to directly suggest, would be unforgivable insubordination -- all while doing it of course. One of the few times Walt manipulates Gus, and afaik the last time he ever genuflects to a boss.
For me, this is the moment that started everybody's downfall. If Gus had accepted it and told Walter that he understood why he did what he did and they should put it past them and move on, I think things would have been okay. But, Gus took it up another notch and showed Walter that he was in danger.
Hard disagree. The entire show was about Walts pride and ego, he and jesse certainly would have caused more trouble. Take what happens after Gale dies for example, Gus doesn't have an immediate play against Walt, he kind of has to just accept the situation, and walt still goes nuts showing up at his house with a revolver and what not. And then Season 5 shows us that Walt always wanted to be top dog and become Gus. I think the true downfall was whatever made Gus decide to initially go against his better judgement and work with walt instead of just sticking with gale's respectable 96% and living happily ever after.
@@mysterion1899 Honestly even if Gus rejected Walt, he'd be petty enough to try and get back at him later. The thing is Walter deciding to become a drug dealer was the beginning of an end for everyone
Yeah, @andrewcutler1380, Walt had a way of bringing that attitude out of people. At the end of the series, did ANYONE like Walter? ANYONE AT ALL? Just the people he was paying, that's all.
@@GrislyAtoms12Jessie did. Walt was like the father he never really had. In his own way Walt saw him like a son as well, and it was completed when he saved him at the end.
It's funny because there are many contradictions in this scene (not in a bad way). Mike said no half measure but Walt gets reprehended for taking full measure. Gus says he'd never order the death of a child but yet later threaten Walt to kill his daughter if he has too. Gus sees Jesse as disposable and worthless but yet later he wants to get rid of Walt and use Jesse instead. The confrontation between Walt and Gus is just like a Chess game where they need to adapt all the time.
As TV Tropes best put it, the fourth season of Breaking Bad was one big game of Xanatos Speed Chess of the conflict between Walter White and Gustavo Fring.
Gus never said he didn't order the death of a child, he merely said "are you asking me if I ordered the murder of a child?" Gus undoubtedly ordered the kill and was most likely seeing how Walt would respond.
@@critiquing_chad9520I don’t think Gus ordered the kill, I think he seemed to genuinely respect the agreement he made with Jesse and was too cautious to do something he knew would blow that up immediately. I think Gus is just saying here, “I could kill you in an instant, so you better fucking watch what you say to me.”
You can kind of tell at 4:21 that Mike actually agrees with Walt's point and thinks this is a pretty reasonable deal. He obviously doesn't hate Walt quite yet, given his relative patience during the whole conversation. From what we know about him, it's most likely he just wants to reach the most peaceful resolution at this point.
@@dolsopolarHaha yes they got along very well before Gus's death. I loved when Mike tickled Walt at a bar in a show of affection and who can forget when Mike told Walt that a great place to play hide and seek would be in a barrel. A true bromance, ruined by Gus's stupid death.
No. He didnt agree. He just thinks to himself that Walt is bullshitting them. He knows Walter crossed the Rubicon. And he knows both Walt and Gus know it
After watching BCS, this scene is a much bigger deal than it seems at first. It’s amazing how significant Walter made himself to be, because Gus didn’t met with these kinds of people who worked for him usually. He’d just have Mike or someone else go as his mouthpiece. But Walter constantly demanded - through actions or otherwise - much of Gus’s attention face to face.
Which was one of the many reasons why Gus ultimately became hostile towards Walter. Walt thought he was worth everyone's time, and strained Gus's patience over and over again.
@@shawnellesmith It's not sudden, Walter is becoming the villain of his own story over the course of Breaking Bad. Ego and pride has been his problem from day 1. At this point he still had redeeming qualities, his ego was still an issue.
*hears that his chemist he has been grooming for 15 years was killed by Walt* Gus: "come ON I have my hands full with dealing with the cartelmembers already"
I love how Walt is like "let's see how this goes first" when Mike tells him to get his car fixed like bro I might be murdered in 2 minutes idgaf about a car😂
@@kalebanth8323 Sure buddy. It’s Mike. He doesn’t bullshit. Nor does he speak without needing to. Nor does he have any reason to lull Walt into a false sense of security. And even if he did - it didn’t work and he didn’t keep trying to convince him. Think what you like. Also, it’s “you’re.”
@@seanjosephhayes He has no need to lull Walt into a false sense of security? Then what was he doing when he sent Walt down into the lab to "check something" when in reality he was about to kill him?
@@CJ-lr4uq Lulling into a false sense of security is reassuring/assuring someone things will be fine. The lab and trying to send him down was a feeble trick attempt to trap him down there and Walt knew well what was going on for several reasons. So there wasn’t any lulling into a false sense of security there whatsoever.
I love how his accent gets thicker the more angry he gets. He goes from nice boss to cartel Generalisimo in seconds . As a Latino I can confirm this happens
When Gus gets out of the car there's a moment when he makes a slight stumble that seems to embody the anger and rage he's feeling, and yet he's so controlled. I have to say Esposito is a master of his craft.
I read that Giancarlo did yoga as part of his method acting to give that calm, cold, detached, emotionless robot-like performance of Gustavo Fring. You can tell with the deep breath he did in this scene.
@@TPDManiacXC626 Fring was not calm in this scene. He was controlled. But you could see in his face, hear in his voice, how tightly wound he was inside. It would not have taken much from Walter to make Gustavo explode.
When Walt said he could get a new assistant, He already had a plan of having Jesse; mrs.doubtfire his way back to work. It’s too bad Gus never let it play out. Bravo Vince
Love how Mike in this scene totally related to Walt. Mike knew those 2 killed a used and killed a kid and Walt had the balls to kill those two men to save his partner. Wouldn’t be surprised if Mike was already on the scene watching the situation go down.
I think they were never going to kill Walt and the scene. And Mike was trying to reassure him that they weren’t by telling him he needs to get his car fixed. He knows that he’s going to have the opportunity to do that later on because they’re not going to kill him.
I interpreted this in a completely different way. It looks like to me hes thinking more, "this guy thinks gus only has two options when gus already told me a third option which doesnt include you alive". A sort of look you'd give an intern who's in over their head mouthing off at the boss.
"Mmm yeah. Funny how words can be so open to interpretation." You can see Mike suppressing a smirk, mildly amused at how Walter basically said "you gave me the idea".
I have a slightly different interpretation. Mike is a man of action. He knows that talk is cheap. He's an ex-cop, so he's heard thousands of excuses, rationalizations, etc. Whether or not Walt actually got the idea from Mike is beside the point. Walter is in mortal danger in this scene, so he'll say anything to survive. By choosing to echo Mike's words back at him, he's trying to subtly curry favor with Mike. Mike is smiling at Walt's attempt to manipulate him.
"I would never ask you that" - this is a powerful line. It's all business to Walt and although he makes it clear he wouldn't put the murder of a child past him.. He does make it clear it is of no concern to him and prioritizes the maintenance of their working relationship above ethics
and its a deja vu moment for me since it reminded me of the scene when gus or his partner told don eladio that he was a middleman for the colombians. and we know know what happened next. walt was astute here. nothing personal. stick to business
What I really love about this scene is Mike’s interaction with Walt because it’s the only time Mike was ever genuinely impressed with Walt throughout the show. When Mike went over to Walt’s house and gave him the talk about taking no more half measures, Walt listened. Not the way he intended, but after hearing that the two dealers killed Tomas (the kid) I’d bet that Mike would have had a “change of heart” about them (in quotes because while Mike wouldn’t do anything about it - he’d agree that people like that have got to go)
He did try but when Gus sent Mike to kill Walt he felt that he owed Walt for saving his life. And with Walt gone he would be a sitting duck if Gus came for him next.
jesse only came back into the fold when he was called on to kill gale when they had walt at gunpoint. Who knows what wouldve happened with jesse if gus hadnt tried to kill walt.
2:33 That line from Gus truly feels like his cold nature finally dropped for a moment at the thought he would kill a child and I don’t think he did because he thought himself to stoop that low.
Yea that's why in the later scene when he threatens to kill Walt's family (including his newborn daughter) you can hear Gus' voice lower almost to a whisper as though he himself couldn't believe that he would go that far. But the situation had escalated to the point where he'd make such a threat.
I think the giveaway is how his face relaxes when Walt says "I would never ask you that." Walt is making it clear that he absolutely believes as much, and is diplomatic enough to not accuse or question him. And Gus is fine with this and moves on. If he were truly defensive and appalled, he might take a second to clear the matter up. Answer the question that is not being asked but lingers nonetheless. Instead it is clear he was offended by the insult to his name only. Walt is free to believe whatever he wants. It's the formality of making Gus answer for it that disgusts him. He's not entirely different from the rest of the Cartel.
@@kennethsagers8576i know walt had already given him Options A , but i don't think he wanted to do what Gus and his partner did with Don Eladio (call him.a middleman). So, he was diplomatic for that reason. if he wanted a death wish and Option A, he would have said something reckless
He was a 'generalissimo' in Chile, so he most likely worked for Pinochet. I have zero doubt he ordered the death of that child, and as others have pointed out he doesn't react in a way that suggests innocence.
@@laevil bruh? It isn't. Death note has a way better plot. Aot had hype just bcs they are still fighting and u got adrenalin while watching it. It's good action show, but not close to death note or mentioned breaking bad which are a level higher in quality
Felt so bad for Walt. You could tell he didn't want to be there at all, finding out later that Hank was the one pulling the strings was mind blowing. Wish I could watch it for the first time again
I mean to this day, I'm not sure if Gus was the one who gave the order for Andrea's brother. But theoretically, let's say he wasn't. He should've known Jesse would've gone after those dealers. And Jesse would've kept his word if the dealers just let the kid alone.
Gus 100% gave the order. The kid knew about Gus’ operation. He gets taken by the authorities he’d talk easily. No way Gus was gonna let the kid go. I’m sure it certainly wasn’t the first time.
@@NoName-xc6cgTo push Jesse to go for the dealers, who would then kill Jesse, and Gus would be free of him. Walt wouldn't want him to replace Gale and the two would cook together. Walt couldn't complain about Jesse's death because there would be nothing linking it directly to Gus.
This, children, is when Gus found his opening to teach Gale Walt's formula and process, thereby getting the product without the unprofessional. It is also when he decided Walter was more of a problem to be leaned on than Jesse ever would be. Jesse can run. Walter can fight.
"I would never ask you that" i.e. I don't want to destroy your own image (and thus end up dead) with such an accusation. But I know you are absolutely capable of such of a vile act, and you know that I know you are capable of doing such a thing.
One of the only times when Mike and Walt get on and seem to like eachother I feel Mike wasnt particularly sad to see the child murdering assholes go either
It’s amazing to look on Mr. Esposito’s career. I remember seeing him for the first time in “King of New York”, and again in “Usual Suspects”. It seems to me that some of the best have started with small parts. Kevin Spacey, Denzel Washington, Tom Hanks, Tom Hardy, to name a few.
I think the "I would never ask you that" is not a sign of his respect for him or staying out... but rather, that he already knew the answer to it, so there was no NEED to ask.
Well in an indirect way, he kind of did order it. Earlier at the meeting between his two dealers and Walt and Jesse, he tells them, “No more children.” While it isn’t ever known whether he gave the clear order or not, he was at best, the cause of it.
One of the things I loved about this TV show, is that if you were to ask my what my favourite scene is, I would struggle to give you an answer, because there are so many good scenes. This is one of them. I love the way Walter says he took a full measure, and Mike realises he created a monster.
“Are you asking if I ordered the murder of a child?” “i would never ask you that.” Witty response. Walt submits to Gus’s demand for respect, yet refuses to exonerate him, showing distrust.
Mike knew Walter would talk his way out of this, like he does with everything. Plus Mike probably knew his bosses plans for Walter anyway. Mike's scenes are all so smooth.
I like how Walt and Gus were able to make peace and let this simple matter go. No one else died and they had a long and successful business venture together, until Walt's cancer came back and he retired happily with his family.
This was the moment Gus realized that Walter is a threat on a comprable level of cunning to himself.
And the moment Walt realized that Gus could never be worked with, as he would always cut loose ends any chance he got. Including Walter, inevitably. The only saving grace Walt had was that Gus was willing to let "natural causes" take care of him. But either way, working with Gus has a limited clock. Even Mike understood that much, which is why his 9 guys in prison were so important, as they gave him protection from Gus. Those were Mike's guys, and they were willing to rat on both Gus and Walt if Mike went down or stopped paying them.
None of these people trusted each other, but they needed each other. Unfortunately Gus couldn't let his bloodthirst go for two seconds and let the worthless junkie live. It divided him and Walt to an irreparable level.
@@renaldoawes2210- I would say you described Gus very accurately.
@@renaldoawes2210 I don't think Mike thought of his guys as a shield. If Walt could kill all of them in prison, Gustavo 100% could, having way more connections and money than Walt.
Mike was never afraid of Gustavo, he doesn't need a shield. He was perfectly confident he could kill both Gustavo and Victor when Gustavo had a gun on him in BCS.
@@VDA19 I feel like he did after Better Call Saul, and how Gus in BB killed effectively everyone he ever worked with. Even slitting the throat of one of his top guys. Gus knew "getting out" was effectively impossible with Gus, and I imagine he took precautions to keep himself from becoming easily.... replaced.... lmao.
@@renaldoawes2210 As we see in BCS, Mike was always Gustavo's top guy during BrBa. I really don't think he was ever in danger of being replaced or killed. He straight up disobeyed Gustavo to his face when Gus wanted to kill Nacho's dad and Victor aimed a gun at him. Anyone else did that and they'd be dead.
Love how Mike tells Walt he’s gonna want to get his car fixed. Essentially indirectly telling him Gus isn’t going to have him killed here.
I didn't pick up on that, but now that you point it out, it makes so much sense.
Underrated comment.
Vince Gilligan is a genius
He might have been saying that as a badly functioning car is one way of allowing the Police to get an inroad into your life. A bad idea for a criminal.
@@terrortorn Of course. However, in instructing him to get it fixed (in light of that), he knew it would let Walt know he was gonna survive that meet. Otherwise it was a pointless piece of advice.
Mike is a kind man. Telling walt to spread his arms out so that he can give walt a hug
Indeed. He was the Teddy Bear of the BB universe.
After watching BCS, I just imagine the thoughts going through Mike's head. "I told Saul. I friggen told him. Don't get involved with the psycho chemistry teacher. No one listens to ol Mike even though I'm always right. Fuckin kids these days."
I always felt a chemistry between them
Vravo Bince
Johnathon Banks is laughing his butt off here. It's the one time where he looks like it's all funny. Probably trying to get Cranston and Esposito to crack too.
The way he said, "I would never ask that of you," to actually mean, "I know you would, so there's no point in me even asking that question to begin with," is brilliant.
And Gus's answer made it quite clear that, he had ordered his guys to kill the kid.
It's open to interpretation lol
@@GoGetYourShineboxI believe he ordered it. There's no way those two drug slinging gang banging goons of his would murder that kid without his approval. That would basically be suicide
@@GoGetYourShineboxfor real these guys are reaching so hard
I really don’t think Gus had Tomas killed considering that the killers could be linked directly back to him.
And Walter happily cooked with his new assistant and made enough money to support his family and until he inevitably passed from his cancer the end.
You left out the part about the AWESOME COFFEE!!!!! That no one ever could make outside of a lab that cost half a million to assemble.
A heartwarming tale
@@GrislyAtoms12
The coffee scene was amazing. A perfect way to end a great show...
Wait what? Nazis...? One sec i gatta look something up...
i wonder what happened with Jesse after the car incident
@@williamcortelyou9072 If that's a joke, it went over my head. What do Nazis have to do with anything?
Gus asked if Walt was out of his fucking mind in the politest way possible lol
Imma start using that at work whenever someone screws up royal 😂
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Gus asked calmly.
3:59 a large proportion of crime consists of pointless exercises, as much as the centralized control of criminal activity would like to make it consistent, linear and predictable.
@@dimitriosdoulgeris4659 Didn't know Gus was chill like that, not the case of Dumbledore tho.
This whole series is the poisonous effect of ego. “If A just let B go, C would never have happened.”
But D and E stumbled onto F, and then everyone frickin' G'd, and the whole world went H I J K L M N O peeed! What the Q R F???
@GrislyAtoms12 🤣🤣🤣. Zinger.
The only weight you ever carry is the weight you can't drop
Only if they know how to see the future and they think they can beat it.
Ego and the absence of a working healthcare
Gus' greatest mistake was making The Danger feel in danger.
Plus threatening to kill Walt’s wife and children if he interfered any further with sabotaging Gustavo’s revenge schemes on Hector and letting the brother in law Hank live. As Peppy Hare in Star Fox: Assault once said, “You never know what a cornered beast might do.” And cornering Walter White is what ultimately got rid of both Gus and Hector Salamanca.
Should've taken Mike's advice "no half measures"
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Walt shouldve killed Jesse? But I thought people love Jesse.
I mean people love him so much they ignore that Gus and Mike wanted Jesse to be "gone" and forced Walt to decide for Jesse or against him.
@marragonn it was all Walt fault. If that fool didn't snitch on Jesse when he wanted to take care of the drug dealers. They wouldn't have been in this situation. Gus and Mike treated Jesse better than Walt ever did
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I agree, Walt shouldve just let Gus kill Jesse after Jesse murdered these dealers. Walt shouldve simply not give a crap about Jesse.
When Mike said ''I need my beauty sleep, and you ruined it Waltuh'' I freakin started crying. Now Mike has to walk around with eyebags.
yuh see what ya dun to me waltuh, ya took anotha haf measura, and look at me! do not do this again, waltuh
He didn't say that though.
Incorrect quotes for the win!!!
All Gus had to do was accept the death of 2 nameless, worthless goons. He still had his premier chef with him, Walter is worth a hundred nameless dealers. But Gus just couldn't let that go and it's so infuriating.
A premier Meth maker who was dying of lung cancer.
Gus was a businessman. Any hint of insubordination you nip in the bud. And in a business like the drug world the discipline method is obvious
@@BlakeFerretExactly. A great businessman will do anything to keep their money and business intact.
It never was about money for Gus. He wanted revenge, power and control.
He got revenge. After that he was bound to sink himself.
Also why Gus had 2 worthless junkies selling teenth of dope, if he was a big wholesaler doing 200lb per week? That doesn't make any sense!
Selling the blue stuff right there in Albuquerque knowing that the DEA was looking for it?
Walter: I prefer option B
Gus: I prefer option A
Walter: *SHIT*
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He did choose Option B. It was from this moment on Gus had every intention of killing Walt when the time was right. The only thing stopping him was his line of product.
@@RightWingCorrectWing Gus made option C
@@Raidraptor_-_Ultimate_Falconlike in gta 5? Everybody safe, happy end!?
The 3rd way@@Raidraptor_-_Ultimate_Falcon
This is probably one of Walt's coolest moments. Going toe to toe with Fring without flinching and stating his case clearly, concisely, and without waver. Excellent scene.
It almost got him killed. He shouldn't have challenged Fring so openly. He mistakenly thought that Fring had two options, presenting these to him, whereas Fring immediately revealed to him a third option, to effectively replace him with Gale.
@@big_2361 Maybe. But Fring knows that Gale can't get the purity that Walt can, and Fring loves that purity.
@@jsembler1 thats what walter thought and it almost got him killed. its not wrong per se, but it becomes irrelevant when you make fring think you are a reckless cannonball and impossible to work with
@@big_2361 Agreed. If you're gonna tell someone like Gus Fring he only has two options, you better be damn sure there are, indeed, only two options.
He didn't help his situation whatsoever. He could have been more contrite, and try to regain Gus' faith that he would be a good underling. Instead he showed Gus arrogance and borderline disrespect, while basically being a newcomer nobody. Who of course, turned out Gus underestimated.
This is the part where Walter T-poses in the middle of the desert.
Do you people not know what frisking is?
So deep. Great writing
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@@LuznoLindoas if people who are chronically online knows what police interactions look like 😂
@@mcdanky9461Bravo, Vince.
Mike: *Never take a half measure.*
Heisenberg: **Kills Mike**
And then apologized to him for it cause he realized Mike was one of the ones that DIDN'T need to die 😒 Walt was a mess lol
@@jonnylawless6797lo mata entre por ego, ofensa y creo que ya a ese punto le tenía rencor, literalmente era una piedra en el zapato y una venganza no le caería mal apesar que ya no podía hacer nada encontrá de el
@@juanpablogarcia6293 nunca entendí ese diálogo eso sí, obvio que Walter estaba feliz de matar a Gus por tema de ego, pero siento que se olvida que en realidad fue pq Gus iba a matar a pinkman y dsps a él mismo
"No half measures, Old man"
Heisenberg after killing Mike...Probably
@@XeDuZpeople just love to ignore this whole thing with Gus wanting to Kill Jesse etc. They want to see Walt as some crazy guy who did things for no reason.
"I would never ask you that" - The way Walter says it... It's almost like "yeah, that's exactly what I'm suggesting". Great acting here. It's impossible to know what Walt is thinking throughout the show, same goes for Gus. I would love to see both of them share a project in the near future!
Walt says he would never ask if Gus ordered the murder of a child, but not that Gus would never do such a thing. Gus has this false sense of honor all throughout BCS and Breaking Bad and Walt sees right through that shit.
I think it's also "I would never ask you that because I wouldn't need to ask a question I already know the answer to." Great line, great delivery
"I would never ask you that" implies certainty, meaning he already knows the answer.
@@Seven-Seas-of-Baba-O-Riley Exactly. He's saying he doesn't need to ask that question.
Agree with above, and Walt is also acknowledging that to ask, or even to directly suggest, would be unforgivable insubordination -- all while doing it of course. One of the few times Walt manipulates Gus, and afaik the last time he ever genuflects to a boss.
“I would never ask you that.” Because he knows that he’d do it in a heartbeat.
Yep. " I would never ask you that, because I'm not stupid enough to think you'd incriminate yourself"
Because Gus is made entirely of Shibbo
Gus was already presenting option 3. Train a more reliable replacement for Walt.
Options A, B, and 3
@@jessh4016option 3 number A
He made use of option 2 and had a new assistant so that the new assistant can learn from Walt.
I hate so Incant igbore
@@jessh4016💀
For me, this is the moment that started everybody's downfall. If Gus had accepted it and told Walter that he understood why he did what he did and they should put it past them and move on, I think things would have been okay. But, Gus took it up another notch and showed Walter that he was in danger.
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Good points
Hard disagree. The entire show was about Walts pride and ego, he and jesse certainly would have caused more trouble. Take what happens after Gale dies for example, Gus doesn't have an immediate play against Walt, he kind of has to just accept the situation, and walt still goes nuts showing up at his house with a revolver and what not. And then Season 5 shows us that Walt always wanted to be top dog and become Gus.
I think the true downfall was whatever made Gus decide to initially go against his better judgement and work with walt instead of just sticking with gale's respectable 96% and living happily ever after.
@@mysterion1899 it's easy to disagree when the show is already made and we know the outcome.
@@mysterion1899 Honestly even if Gus rejected Walt, he'd be petty enough to try and get back at him later. The thing is Walter deciding to become a drug dealer was the beginning of an end for everyone
I can't believe that at 0:21 Mike didn't notice that Walter summoned a channel logo. It was a game changer
Genius
Bravo vince
😂
Gus: “Are you asking me if I ordered the murder of a child?”
Gus a few weeks later: “I will kill your baby daughter!”
I believe he said "infant daughter" (correction)
Yeah, @andrewcutler1380, Walt had a way of bringing that attitude out of people. At the end of the series, did ANYONE like Walter? ANYONE AT ALL? Just the people he was paying, that's all.
@@GrislyAtoms12Jessie did. Walt was like the father he never really had. In his own way Walt saw him like a son as well, and it was completed when he saved him at the end.
Non Gender Carbon Based infant Lifeform.
Edited for 2024.
*infant daughter
It's funny because there are many contradictions in this scene (not in a bad way).
Mike said no half measure but Walt gets reprehended for taking full measure.
Gus says he'd never order the death of a child but yet later threaten Walt to kill his daughter if he has too.
Gus sees Jesse as disposable and worthless but yet later he wants to get rid of Walt and use Jesse instead.
The confrontation between Walt and Gus is just like a Chess game where they need to adapt all the time.
in other words, these guys r not very nice people lmao
Criminals are known to be hypocrites, i think 😅
As TV Tropes best put it, the fourth season of Breaking Bad was one big game of Xanatos Speed Chess of the conflict between Walter White and Gustavo Fring.
Gus never said he didn't order the death of a child, he merely said "are you asking me if I ordered the murder of a child?" Gus undoubtedly ordered the kill and was most likely seeing how Walt would respond.
@@critiquing_chad9520I don’t think Gus ordered the kill, I think he seemed to genuinely respect the agreement he made with Jesse and was too cautious to do something he knew would blow that up immediately. I think Gus is just saying here, “I could kill you in an instant, so you better fucking watch what you say to me.”
You can kind of tell at 4:21 that Mike actually agrees with Walt's point and thinks this is a pretty reasonable deal. He obviously doesn't hate Walt quite yet, given his relative patience during the whole conversation. From what we know about him, it's most likely he just wants to reach the most peaceful resolution at this point.
he kinda get along with walt before gus's death lol he even sorry walt when he's about to shot him at laundry
@@dolsopolarHaha yes they got along very well before Gus's death. I loved when Mike tickled Walt at a bar in a show of affection and who can forget when Mike told Walt that a great place to play hide and seek would be in a barrel. A true bromance, ruined by Gus's stupid death.
Yeah in this scene Mike still respected Walt. It was when Mike tried to kill him in the laundry when their relationship started going downhill.
I always interpreted it as Mike viewing Walter being laughably naive for thinking this whole incident would be swept under the rug so easily
No. He didnt agree. He just thinks to himself that Walt is bullshitting them. He knows Walter crossed the Rubicon. And he knows both Walt and Gus know it
After watching BCS, this scene is a much bigger deal than it seems at first. It’s amazing how significant Walter made himself to be, because Gus didn’t met with these kinds of people who worked for him usually. He’d just have Mike or someone else go as his mouthpiece. But Walter constantly demanded - through actions or otherwise - much of Gus’s attention face to face.
Which was one of the many reasons why Gus ultimately became hostile towards Walter. Walt thought he was worth everyone's time, and strained Gus's patience over and over again.
@@MediadosWhere did this sudden hate for Walt came from? This started when he protected Jesse from being gunned down by those gang bangers.
@@shawnellesmith It's not sudden, Walter is becoming the villain of his own story over the course of Breaking Bad. Ego and pride has been his problem from day 1. At this point he still had redeeming qualities, his ego was still an issue.
@@Mediados Regardless, ego is not how this conflict with Gus started.
*hears that his chemist he has been grooming for 15 years was killed by Walt*
Gus: "come ON I have my hands full with dealing with the cartelmembers already"
0:58 Jonathan Banks losing his balance for a split second ahah
Mike
Finger
kid named tripper
Mike is sleep deprived here lol
Finger needs his sleep 😭😭
I love how Walt is like "let's see how this goes first" when Mike tells him to get his car fixed like bro I might be murdered in 2 minutes idgaf about a car😂
That’s the point. Mike’s letting him know he’s not gonna be killed here.
@@seanjosephhayesNo, that’s not the point. Your the type to get fooled by somebody in that exact same way.
@@kalebanth8323 Sure buddy. It’s Mike. He doesn’t bullshit. Nor does he speak without needing to. Nor does he have any reason to lull Walt into a false sense of security. And even if he did - it didn’t work and he didn’t keep trying to convince him. Think what you like. Also, it’s “you’re.”
@@seanjosephhayes He has no need to lull Walt into a false sense of security? Then what was he doing when he sent Walt down into the lab to "check something" when in reality he was about to kill him?
@@CJ-lr4uq Lulling into a false sense of security is reassuring/assuring someone things will be fine. The lab and trying to send him down was a feeble trick attempt to trap him down there and Walt knew well what was going on for several reasons. So there wasn’t any lulling into a false sense of security there whatsoever.
I love how his accent gets thicker the more angry he gets. He goes from nice boss to cartel Generalisimo in seconds . As a Latino I can confirm this happens
0:10 Mike gives the weirdest hugs
"YOU WEARIN A WIRE!?"
Flashbacks from Philly 🤷
Gus Fring's voice when he says "this time I choose". Without ever saying "I am the boss", he says I AM THE BOSS.
the boss can suck me
When Gus gets out of the car there's a moment when he makes a slight stumble that seems to embody the anger and rage he's feeling, and yet he's so controlled. I have to say Esposito is a master of his craft.
I read that Giancarlo did yoga as part of his method acting to give that calm, cold, detached, emotionless robot-like performance of Gustavo Fring. You can tell with the deep breath he did in this scene.
@@TPDManiacXC626 Fring was not calm in this scene. He was controlled. But you could see in his face, hear in his voice, how tightly wound he was inside. It would not have taken much from Walter to make Gustavo explode.
Or ya know, the actor coulda just stumbled a little bit...
@@MidnightKingL lol.
😂😂😂 people reading too much into this putting all these actors and writers on pedestals when all that happened was the actor stumbled. OMG 😂
Love when people literally add nothing, just post a clip ... and add their watermark as though it's theirs.
It's Crime CIty bro we doing IP crimes up in here.
Still better than the obnoxious edits and background music that you always see in Shorts.
Wait...Crime City didn't create this?
I'll take the water mark if it means avoiding the UA-cam copyright crap.
When Walt said he could get a new assistant,
He already had a plan of having Jesse; mrs.doubtfire his way back to work.
It’s too bad Gus never let it play out.
Bravo Vince
Love how Mike in this scene totally related to Walt. Mike knew those 2 killed a used and killed a kid and Walt had the balls to kill those two men to save his partner. Wouldn’t be surprised if Mike was already on the scene watching the situation go down.
4:24 mike impressed by walt's conversation/ manipulation skill
I think they were never going to kill Walt and the scene. And Mike was trying to reassure him that they weren’t by telling him he needs to get his car fixed. He knows that he’s going to have the opportunity to do that later on because they’re not going to kill him.
I agree. But Walt is such a kind and loving husband that he didn't want Skyler stuck with the bill on the off chance that he got whacked out.
this is the exact moment when Walt got his car fixed
Ugh, stop with these lazy jokes. They lost their flavor a long time ago
@@arvindhmani06 i still find them funny
@@arvindhmani06i find them hilarious. They get more flavorful by the day
@@limyize They're so savory, so spicy, sooo _Salamanca_
Bravo, Vince!
4:20 Mike is like "Fuck, this guys good".
Yeah in that moment Mike was still respecting Walt. Too bad he tried to kill him shortly after
*guy's
I interpreted this in a completely different way. It looks like to me hes thinking more, "this guy thinks gus only has two options when gus already told me a third option which doesnt include you alive". A sort of look you'd give an intern who's in over their head mouthing off at the boss.
@@Unknown-jt1johate grammar police bitches
Not in a million years.
"Mmm yeah. Funny how words can be so open to interpretation." You can see Mike suppressing a smirk, mildly amused at how Walter basically said "you gave me the idea".
I have a slightly different interpretation.
Mike is a man of action. He knows that talk is cheap. He's an ex-cop, so he's heard thousands of excuses, rationalizations, etc. Whether or not Walt actually got the idea from Mike is beside the point. Walter is in mortal danger in this scene, so he'll say anything to survive. By choosing to echo Mike's words back at him, he's trying to subtly curry favor with Mike.
Mike is smiling at Walt's attempt to manipulate him.
"I would never ask you that" - this is a powerful line. It's all business to Walt and although he makes it clear he wouldn't put the murder of a child past him.. He does make it clear it is of no concern to him and prioritizes the maintenance of their working relationship above ethics
and its a deja vu moment for me since it reminded me of the scene when gus or his partner told don eladio that he was a middleman for the colombians. and we know know what happened next. walt was astute here. nothing personal. stick to business
I think he says that as he knows he did and asking such a question would only weaken his position.
1:48 I love how the weather and time of day clearly change making the color scheme go from tan to blue constantly through this part.
This was such a fantastic show. Everyone at the top of their game.
Man...the writing in this show...I think I'm finally due for a rewatch.
What I really love about this scene is Mike’s interaction with Walt because it’s the only time Mike was ever genuinely impressed with Walt throughout the show. When Mike went over to Walt’s house and gave him the talk about taking no more half measures, Walt listened. Not the way he intended, but after hearing that the two dealers killed Tomas (the kid) I’d bet that Mike would have had a “change of heart” about them (in quotes because while Mike wouldn’t do anything about it - he’d agree that people like that have got to go)
4:20 that Smirk on Mike's face😅
😅😅
"this mf" look
Yet another moment where Jessie could have gotten out at this point in time avoiding all the un-necessary drama that followed.
He did try but when Gus sent Mike to kill Walt he felt that he owed Walt for saving his life. And with Walt gone he would be a sitting duck if Gus came for him next.
He could've gotten out if he simply didn't get Walt in so much trouble this season
jesse only came back into the fold when he was called on to kill gale when they had walt at gunpoint. Who knows what wouldve happened with jesse if gus hadnt tried to kill walt.
you can tell Mike was quite happy about the option A deal provided and chosen by Walter and Gus
2:29 - "Careful Walthur..."
Walt was going to choose Lyle as his next assistant but Gus knew that would be flying to close to the sun
But it would be up to Los Pollos standards
“-You said no half measures
-mmm yeah…funny how words can be so open to interpretation”
Especially when it comes to the English language.
Bro Mike was kind of impressed that Walt talked himself out of it
I freaking love how the show ended 11 years ago, and this clip has racked up almost 100k views in 4 days. It's an OLD CLIP!
It ended 10 years and like 4 months ago. And Better Call Saul helped keep its mythology and characters alive.
“Are you asking me if I ordered the murder of a child?”
"I would never ask you that"
Funny how words can be so open to interpretation
2:39 Gus' utter contempt slightly melts away. Super subtle
Funny how one scene can make me want to rewatch an entire series. A series that I’ve seen from beginning to end at least 5 times…
Lol same
I think more Than 10 times for me😂
@@hakunamatata2074lol more then 15 times for me bud
I only watched it once. What's wrong with you people?
It's great these two friends could find mutual respect and agreement with eachother
2:33 That line from Gus truly feels like his cold nature finally dropped for a moment at the thought he would kill a child and I don’t think he did because he thought himself to stoop that low.
Yea that's why in the later scene when he threatens to kill Walt's family (including his newborn daughter) you can hear Gus' voice lower almost to a whisper as though he himself couldn't believe that he would go that far. But the situation had escalated to the point where he'd make such a threat.
Gus did order those dudes to kill that boy.
I don't believe you jabronis realize how ruthless Gus actually is.
I think the giveaway is how his face relaxes when Walt says "I would never ask you that."
Walt is making it clear that he absolutely believes as much, and is diplomatic enough to not accuse or question him. And Gus is fine with this and moves on.
If he were truly defensive and appalled, he might take a second to clear the matter up. Answer the question that is not being asked but lingers nonetheless.
Instead it is clear he was offended by the insult to his name only. Walt is free to believe whatever he wants. It's the formality of making Gus answer for it that disgusts him.
He's not entirely different from the rest of the Cartel.
@@kennethsagers8576i know walt had already given him Options A , but i don't think he wanted to do what Gus and his partner did with Don Eladio (call him.a middleman). So, he was diplomatic for that reason. if he wanted a death wish and Option A, he would have said something reckless
He was a 'generalissimo' in Chile, so he most likely worked for Pinochet. I have zero doubt he ordered the death of that child, and as others have pointed out he doesn't react in a way that suggests innocence.
Giving him 2 options still making him feel in control of everything i gotta watch this show again.
Mike is oddly friendly to Walt in this scene.
he didn’t hate walt earlier on. he thought walt was doing it for his family (like mike was) so there was mutual respect there.
Mike was always professional. Almost always, anyway.
if you compare people interacting with Walter mid story vs end story almost everyone seems oddly friendly
@@WolfHunterJasonHe was doing it for his family.
@@GrislyAtoms12Not with Walter, he hated him basically on personal reasons.
This is the moment when Walt prefers option b
2:34 Season 3 Gus: acting offended by being accused of ordering the murder of a child
Season 4 Gus: "I will kill your son and infant daughter"
Had to keep up the ruse in order to keep walt and Jessie manipulated
Mike: Never take a half measure
Walt: *takes a full measure*
Mike: THAT’S NOT WHAT I MEANT
The first interaction after walt and gus became protagonist and antagonist
This is the moment Walter gets his car fixed.
What a great show. Truly nothing like it. Nothing will ever be as good.
aot clears
sopranos
@@laevil lmao, aot not even close. If anime, then for example death note, but still not as good as breaking bad
@@saitama7578 death note is so mid compared to aot
@@laevil bruh? It isn't. Death note has a way better plot. Aot had hype just bcs they are still fighting and u got adrenalin while watching it. It's good action show, but not close to death note or mentioned breaking bad which are a level higher in quality
Felt so bad for Walt. You could tell he didn't want to be there at all, finding out later that Hank was the one pulling the strings was mind blowing. Wish I could watch it for the first time again
1:27
Comedy Gold right there.
What makes you say that?
@4:26 Love the way Gus' hardness just melts from his face.
The way he says “explain yourself” gives me such chills.
When Gus said “Explain yourself” I started spouting out all of the wrongs I have done in my life like I was in the confession booth at church.
2:28 when Mike gives that glance you know you're beginning to push Gus to the extreme
"your car... get it FIXED."
"yeAH."
This is the exact moment Walt T-poses and asserts dominance
Most people don't realize this, but Wilt is actually Hizinbirg.
3:37 Bro think he the main character
I mean to this day, I'm not sure if Gus was the one who gave the order for Andrea's brother. But theoretically, let's say he wasn't. He should've known Jesse would've gone after those dealers. And Jesse would've kept his word if the dealers just let the kid alone.
Yeah exactly, even if Gus didn't order the murder of that kid, he didn't stop it either.
Gus 100% gave the order. The kid knew about Gus’ operation. He gets taken by the authorities he’d talk easily. No way Gus was gonna let the kid go. I’m sure it certainly wasn’t the first time.
I think when Gus threatens to kill Walts daughter, that moment proves it was Gus who gave the order to kill that boy.
Why would he have ordered that?
@@NoName-xc6cgbecause cutting him loose would leave him a loose end/liability
Every man and his dog knew Gus ordered that killing before that other scene
@@NoName-xc6cgTo push Jesse to go for the dealers, who would then kill Jesse, and Gus would be free of him. Walt wouldn't want him to replace Gale and the two would cook together. Walt couldn't complain about Jesse's death because there would be nothing linking it directly to Gus.
@@Neil-qg9cw I like this theory a lot, however I'm not sure Jesse attacking the dealers was a move Gus could have predicted
I love how Mike was able to see through all of walter's bs
I think right around 2:45 is when Gus decides to kill Walt.
He's already decided to kill walter - he wants his man in there to learn from walter so he can get rid of a problematix employee.
This, children, is when Gus found his opening to teach Gale Walt's formula and process, thereby getting the product without the unprofessional. It is also when he decided Walter was more of a problem to be leaned on than Jesse ever would be. Jesse can run. Walter can fight.
"I would never ask you that"
i.e. I don't want to destroy your own image (and thus end up dead) with such an accusation. But I know you are absolutely capable of such of a vile act, and you know that I know you are capable of doing such a thing.
watching this series, even if it took only two guys talking the whole episode it always intense with their well-craft threatening dialogues
One of the only times when Mike and Walt get on and seem to like eachother
I feel Mike wasnt particularly sad to see the child murdering assholes go either
It’s amazing to look on Mr. Esposito’s career. I remember seeing him for the first time in “King of New York”, and again in “Usual Suspects”. It seems to me that some of the best have started with small parts. Kevin Spacey, Denzel Washington, Tom Hanks, Tom Hardy, to name a few.
I think the "I would never ask you that" is not a sign of his respect for him or staying out... but rather, that he already knew the answer to it, so there was no NEED to ask.
Well in an indirect way, he kind of did order it. Earlier at the meeting between his two dealers and Walt and Jesse, he tells them, “No more children.” While it isn’t ever known whether he gave the clear order or not, he was at best, the cause of it.
Why is it that the line "I would never ask you that" is the main part of this scene that gives me chills the most.
He tells him he’s not gonna die. Get car fixed.
That scene was the peak of the television in all of it’s history
Wouldn’t go that far bro, there’s better scenes just in this show 🤣
One of the things I loved about this TV show, is that if you were to ask my what my favourite scene is, I would struggle to give you an answer, because there are so many good scenes.
This is one of them. I love the way Walter says he took a full measure, and Mike realises he created a monster.
You know, some one once told me:
All of man’s problems come from his inability to just sit in a room
That’s a weird way of saying I barely watched boardwalk empire for the first time
walt wasn't going to bother getting his car fixed until he knew he was going to be allowed to live.
“Are you asking if I ordered the murder of a child?”
“i would never ask you that.”
Witty response. Walt submits to Gus’s demand for respect, yet refuses to exonerate him, showing distrust.
Mike knew Walter would talk his way out of this, like he does with everything. Plus Mike probably knew his bosses plans for Walter anyway. Mike's scenes are all so smooth.
I will choose your assistant = I will choose your replacement
inflection point of breaking bad. most significant moment esp for jesse apologists, from here walt knew it was just a matter of tiime
We don't notice but sound is impeccable.
"Walter, you've been busy." - Mike.
"You should meet my wife." - Walter.
Mike seems pretty chill with what walt did despite not sleeping for several days. But Gus hates when messy situations disturb his efficient operation.
“Can we do this somewhere else next time, the commute is killing me”
Every scene between these two phenomenal actors is a treasure.
Walter: I prefer option B
Mike: I still prefer the carrot
Gus: Lets hear more about this carrot
I like how Walt and Gus were able to make peace and let this simple matter go. No one else died and they had a long and successful business venture together, until Walt's cancer came back and he retired happily with his family.