I have almost died diving several times... powerful down currents in Maldives dragged me down and out to sea. Little air left... decided to just relax to reduce air consumption , small squirter of air into bc hoping to eventually escape down current. Just as my air tank hit zero...I was tossed around like a rag doll by crazy washing machine current, then finally released and surfaced out of air. Then lost at sea alone in the Indian Ocean for an hour!
If you are diving and you feel like you can’t catch a breath just call it. There is no shame. Safety is number 1. This happened to me last month. Something wasn’t right from the start of the dive. Felt like I wasn’t getting enough oxygen into me. Started struggling for breath. I safely surfaced and decided not to dive that day. I hope you made a full recovery ❤️🩹
Thanks @TheDeepExplorer1 yeah in my case I just was rusty and forgot a lot of my training and also a lack of experience caused some of the issues. I did make a full recovery and didn't have any damage to body or mind.
I’m not even a diver (I do study it though) but the first thing I’m noticing is that his breathing isn’t right. He’s breathing too fast and too frequently, similar to someone having an anxiety/panic attack. Dude should have signaled his buddy or divemaster and surfaced right away once he started feeling dizzy or otherwise.
Sounds like 5 minutes of hyperventilating which could easily be anxiety induced. This unfortunate incident could have been easily prevented. PADI AOWD/Rescue Firefighter/EMT US Navy
Wow, that's hard to watch. I can't imagine how unbelievably bad the feeling must be to drown and then so deep under water... for me, just one panic attack on the surface was enough. pure horror for me to watch. thank you very much for sharing with us and so glad for the happy end.
Thanks for your comment and please subscribe! I am going to dig up more of the video hopefully and post it soon which has the ambulance ride and the actual dive (I think) into the water and descent. Yeah, it's a terrible feeling and one I hope others don't have to experience. It was my fault partially and I should have know better. It is a very hard lesson that almost cost me my life. Life is precious. You get one shot at life so please stay safe!
It's terrible, it's good that you're okay and they helped you in time. I also had an accident while diving. I was at a depth of 20 meters when I felt it was very difficult to breathe. The gas pressure in the cylinder was 1300psi, which calmed me down. But after 3 minutes the regulator stopped giving me air. I couldn't breathe, I panicked and I was sure I was going to die. My friend noticed that I had a problem, gave me her regulator at the last minute and saved my life ❤
@@indomex4914I was traumatized, it was terrible, when I couldn't breathe I was sure I was going to die. Nowadays I still scuba dive, I love it. And do you dive?
@@KorneliaKlaudia646that's good to hear. I've stopped diving after that incident. If I were to ever get back into the water I'd have to do a lot of checks, training and then dive much shallower waters with a private instructor only.
@@indomex4914I'm not surprised, it's a very traumatic experience. I hope you will manage to get back to scuba diving. If you want to dive again at all. Good luck 😉👌
I recently got open water certified just this past week, and this was agonizing to here you struggle for breath. Its also very disappointing to see that no other divers noticed you until the very last minute when it was nearly too late. That being said, Im glad your alright. Always make sure to dive within your limits.
Congratulations, I hope you had a wonderful experience and many more to come. Thanks, yeah I was also to blame since I should have taken a refresher before. A lot of things went bad that day and I am glad to be alive thanks to the people there who did save my life. Stay safe!
@@indomex4914 it's partially your fault, but I blame the diving center more probably, if they knew you were a rusty open water diver with just a few dives on your back and that those were long ago, they should have offered a check up dive before to check your skills.
glad you survived and a diver came to your aid at the last minute. If you dive again maybe go seek a reputable dive shop for a refresher course. if you were just open water certified, 80ft is beyond your training. stay safe
I read your introduction. I don’t know if you have yet to attempt Diving again, but if you haven’t consider my route. My first ever Discover Scuba class was at Molokini Crater in Maui in June, 2003. When I returned home I signed up to get certified right away. Unfortunately I ended up with a severe double sinus and ear infection and was unable to complete the course. That would have been the end of my foray into SCUBA Diving. Yet I loved it sooo much that I decided to continue the experience by taking Discover Scuba classes, also known as Resort Courses.. I took a full 17 of them before I felt comfortable enough to go for the certification in June 2016. As a solo traveler I always chose to partner with the Dive Master or keep close to them, even if they weren’t my buddy..I am now an AOWD with over 200 dives and do it as often as I can.. Mind you, I am not saying to take as many DSDs as I took, but it was a great experience to hone my skills slowly and the dive masters always think it’s your first time, so they are apt to keep a better eye on you and keep you shallow, usually 45ft or so, never greater than 60.. BTW, I did 48 certified OWDs before I became an Adventure Diver, than 41 as an AD before becoming a full AOWD.. All my dives have been on compressed air.. Happy Diving or enjoying our beautiful oceans, bays, sounds, rivers, fresh water springs, lakes, etc..
Hi, I haven't and don't think I'd like to. Watching the video puts the worst case scenario in my mind which would have been the end of life. I am glad I got to experience my certification dives before that in Cancun with no issues and that was a wonderful experience. Maybe someday things could change, but I'd need to get check out by a doctor first to rule out health risks. BTW thank you for sharing your story. That is pretty cool that you gradually build up to 200 dives. Slow and steady is always a good way.
I was in a similar situation but got decompression sickness where i had to go to the decompression chamber twice. I was a newbie diver (open water) and my instructor would take me down to 80-137 ft. I knew I shouldn't dive deeper than 60ft based on PADI and NAUI standards but the instructor said it'll be ok. Current and bouyancy issues caused me to rock up from 90 ft up to the surface. I got back to diving months later. I wish you the best and know that you're not alone.
Wow, that's also scary. Did you pass out? Yeah that was irresponsible of your instructor to to break the rules. I also think I had no business doing a 80 ft dive at Molokini crater.
You should notify the diving agency and report your instructor, this is NOT the way to do things, it's taking unnecessary risks with people who aren't trained enough.
OMG, I can totally relate to this. My first open water dive was in Tahiti/Raiatea. Wife & I got certified and were on our Honeymoon. The rambo french divers on the islands took us down to 100 Ft. The dive was okay, but when I got back to the boat,...I threw up and had Tachycardia (rapid heart beat). Ended up in a tiny medical clinic, but was ok next morning. I did pick up courage and went on to Boar Bora and dove. Scary !
Indomex this is one the spookiest video I’ve ever seen 🥶 I’m so glad you’re alive and suffered no physical consequences, and that you and people around you will recover rom the psychologic trauma. You should write what exactly happened so that the whole divers’ community can learn. You gave a lot of signs of distress (hands movement, rapid breath/ short amplitude detectable from your bubbles, apparently you even switched to your Octo), you couldn’t grab another diver’s finn or bang your tank, or try a controlled ascent. The emergency ascent seems very fast and could have had catastrophic outcome for you and/or your rescuer (from the color of the sea bottom you were probably deeper than 18m). Immediate CPR was great but I didn’t hear the O2 kit requisition. Lesson for all of us, divers or not: we have to truly care for each other. These images will not leave me 😢 Long life to you and your rescuers 👌
Thanks for your nice response and don't forget to subscribe! I wrote about it in dive talk. From what I remember I was struggling to breathe through my regulator. This increased my anxiety as I kept to try to breathe in air, but felt like I was not getting enough. The reason my hands move is I have an essential tremor (genetic) and in a free floating environment it just kind of moves around since I don't have a steady surface to place it on. The ascent was fast and it was due to my lack of experience. I was around 80 feet (I think) as this was at Molokini crate in Maui. I didn't have too much trauma in subsequent days, although while I was in the ambulance I suffered from the runs and vomiting. A lot of people have theorized different things, but ultimately even the doctors in Maui couldn't say what exactly happened. Basically, I was rusty from a 2 year gap and I was a new diver doing a dive (80 feet) beyond my capability. So I think those are useful lessons, always dive within your limits and if you dive after a gap make sure to take a couple of training session. You really have to respect the rules in scuba otherwise it's over.
@@indomex4914 hello, you can stay at 3 meters deep and you must have dive computer for decompression stops. When you dive check the air in the dive tank if you can breath it. If you do the decompression stops then you have no bends sickness. If you have the bends sickness go to the hopital for do the decompression. You dive in a PADI school? What is your level? You are a dive master?
Back in the day an Open Water Certificate meant something and 80' wouldn't be unreasonable. I guess Open Water is equivalent to Basic Certificates issued in the 70's.
@@dougallen4675 Open water gets you to 18m or 60 ft as of right now. I just got my open water cert and my nerves get to me past 10m so I'd want to get way more comfortable underwater before going past 60ft. 80ft with such a huge gap is wild.
This was a really dangerous situation for you and anyone helping you, especially if a decompression stop is needed. Those helping you could suffer decompression sickness (the benz ). Don’t dive beyond your training and limits. If anxious once diving, notify your buddy and dive master immediately and make a plan to surface. Thanks for sharing as can help others learn.
No decompression stop is ever needed if you’re doing recreational diving right. If you need deco stops, you’re either a commercial or tech diver, or someone making a cock-up.
@@epicoutdoor5795 You're right that instead of the term "decompression stop" I should have used the term "safety stop" which depending on the depth and duration of the dive may be recommended but not absolutely necessary. That said if a safety stop is skipped because of a similar situation to this video, the diver in trouble or the helper may get decompression sickness, especially if there were multiple dives in a short period or if ascending to elevation after. Decompression sickness is well documented in recreational divers. The point I made is still relevant.
1- breathing super fast, a lot of hands moving, more moving more air needed. You should have stopped with your buddy on your side. You are only open water, should not be going so deep, with a 2 year gap, that's asking for trouble. Also, the people that rent you the gear should not let you go in that diving, you are not certified for that, but if you don't care why should they? The diver is the n°1 responsible for his safety. Go dive again but do things by the book, you will have no problems if you do.
Glad your well and made it. It's hard to hear you struggle on the dive, your air consumption must of been very high by the sounds of your breathing. I really hope you don't give up on diving and can find the time to build your confidence again. I can only see from the camera but looks like the group is moving far to fast for you also.
Yeah they were and also I was struggling with strong current. Yeah, I'd need to get check out a lot before I even consider doing it, but the dives before this one were amazing experiences. I did those in Cancun and got to see the underwater museum. My wife also did a dive where she saw shark and thats on video. I'll try to dig that up!
Glad all finished well. Take your time to build confidence and skills. Diving is rewarding activity, but some work and time must be invested to enjoy it safe.
...that was close!! 1. Stay within limits 2. Buddy check protocol 3. Stay within arms distance to your buddy 4.carry a tank banger/ whistle always 5. Any situation...STOP, BREATHE, THINK, AND ACT. ...dont worry buddy, just continue diving....after a cardiac evaluatiion ofcourse..... Gud luck!!! 3
Wow... I knew something was wrong the second I hit play and heard you struggling for air. Glad you survived it... but where the FUCK was your dive partner? This was 25% on you, 25% on your dive partner, and 50% on the dive company that didn't double check your dive experience before letting you in the water. I mean... there's no way the instructors didn't notice how green you were just by the way you were setting up your gear.
Actually my dive partner was my wife, but she was just as inexperienced as me. She is the one who actually came to help me before the other instructor (she was the first person trying to help me) and drew the instructors attention.
@@indomex4914 - pretty universal dive signal underwater to let people know you're in trouble who are farther away... is to bang something against your tank... metal on metal underwater is best. The sounds carries pretty well. Most seasoned divers know its a last ditch effort to get somebody's attention.
@@hardymonty I know you are correct, i just didn't have anything to bang my tank with so I was unable to do it. You have to realize this was my 3rd dive after like 2 year break.
This is awful. I’m sorry no one was paying attention to you😢 it seems like you were trying to catch up to the rest of them since the beginning of the video. My god. Was there something wrong with your equipment? Glad you’re ok. The whole group just left you behind!
Thanks, it definitely felt I couldn't breathe normally through the equipment so I was struggling to breathe what little I could. I also started to get panicky because of the situation and actually towards the end inflated my BCD to get up quickly cause it was very bad.
@@indomex4914 it’s embarrassing for me but I nearly died snorkeling. It was my first time. I was struggling to get air through the snorkel. Like I dunno what was wrong with that thing but I think it had a safety valve. Also my wetsuit was big. I didn’t know this. Never worn this shit before. So water billowed into my wet suit and dragged me down. So I was kicking, HARD. Breathing HARD. I thought this was normal. Struggled to float and breathe. Then I couldn’t breathe even when I was trying to float on my back. We were far from shore. Had to be floated into shore on my back by someone else. I think they thought I was just panicking. I developed rapid onset pulmonary edema. It took months to recover. And my lungs are still not the same. I was with a group of idiots. This was a company that rents the gear out and takes you out to explore. I blame them for not seeing the problems. I kept telling them, I can’t breathe. They continued the tour with me struggling to stay conscious. And we’re even trying to take pictures of me like this. Fuck these people. I learned to be careful because people you pay are not always professionals like they claim. I went back out a while later with another company and had my redemption. I’m an active person. I’m a tough person. I was treated like I was just scared that day. Seeing this video made me remember that. And people will talk shit like you need to calm down etc. which is true we need to be calm. But if you can’t move air through your equipment, there’s no chance in hell calming down alone will remedy that. Glad you’re ok
I had something kind similar happen to me on my AOW course. We dive the rivers out here and my deep dive ended up at a wreck. The current was strong, and my breathing rate increased as I went down the line. Then at the bottom we went under the wreck (it was flipped upside down) where it became pitch black and disorienting. Suddenly I felt like I couldn’t breathe. I managed to signal my instructor with my torch and he calmed me down but for a good 30 or so seconds I wasn’t sure if I would make it lol.
Lots of good points. As a 76 year old Instructor Trainer with over 6,000 logged dives, I own a dive shop and dive all year around. Not sure of your age or health conditions but it sounds like PFO. I routinely have my doctor order a stress test for me at least every two years. I am also an Instructor Trainer for Disabled Divers International and often tell folks there is no such thing as a disabled diver (I have a VA 80% disability) there are only divers. The only reason for you to give up is if your doctor signs off on your medical as no longer able to scuba dive. Don't just find an "Instructor." That's like accepting you doctor graduated i nthe top of his class vs the bottom 10. Is the instructor a newly minted one with less than 200 dives and only certified 25 or less students or one with over 500 and has issued 100 OWD certs and specialty certs or more? Is the Instructor someone that can operate independently or is teching under the direction of a shop? As a shop I need customers with money, but as a owner I must protect my liability at the same time. Pick your dive shops like you pick your instructors. However, the bottom line is, as divers we are responsible for our own safety and that means know our limits. Don't stop unless your doctor says so. Get additonal training and own quality dive equipment.
I will never understand the “rely on your buddy “ mentality. I’ve gone from newbie to CCR diving in 18 years. PADI certified,AI etc…. Redundancy and self rescue needs to be addressed earlier in the certification process. Glad you survived!
I agree, you need to be self aware enough to know when there is a problem and figure out how to fix it! I like to play the “what if” game with myself to prepare. I know when you are new, there is a lot to remember especially if you don’t dive very often. Given how you were breathing, it seems like anxiety or a panic attack . Next time you feel like that, quit swimming for a minute and try to slow your breathing, focus on something on the reef to get your mind away from the panic. If it doesn’t resolve within a few minutes, I’d call the dive. I have called a dive on a couple occasions when I just wasn’t feeling right. Better to be alive and have a bruised ego than not!
@@shelleymurphy1966 Yeah all good points, I just didn't have the presence of mind because I was so rusty to act so I did an emergency manuever which was super unsafe inflating my buoyancy vest.
@@indomex4914What would you say did happen? I watched the video and read many comments but still don’t really understand. This video is most helpful if that information is also provided. Thanks and glad you’re okay.
I was having trouble breathing through my regulator. This was my 3rd dive or so after the first 2 (over 2 years before). It was a 80 ft dive at Molokini crater. The equipment I used (i.e. regulator) was not mine, but loaned from the diving company. I struggled to breathe for a long time and in moment of desperation inflated my buoyancy vest. Before I reached the surface I passed out and they gave me CPR on the board.@@ttb1513
Hey thanks for sharing your video I’d like to ask if it’s okay to use your this video for content that scuba diving is fun but it’s also very important to know about safety your video is a very good example of why we should have a buddy and stay in a group and know how to do proper rescue I’m glad your safe and thank you for sharing your experience 😁💕
Bro i had very similar situation, we were swimming against current and i got really tired, i tried to manage it but i knew my heart and breathing was too much. i slowed down i did few stops tried to continue i checked air it was 110 while my buddy had 180 so i knew i will be finishing ealier. i gave up struggling bc i knew i had no chance to beat current, i sticked fins in sand and my hands to rest - my buddy saw it he came to help he helped me swimm a little so i can finally rest and he took me to the boat i hat like 70 in my tank while he still had 160 haha from that moment i know if its too much its not worth you just better stop and go next dive as you cant win anyway just keep yourself save and your friends. i was so panicked while being at the bottom and thinking but i remember best for me is to rest and get myself together if they see im missing they will look for me or go up so (1) then we talked at the surface and they told me i should stop ealier so i wasnt tired that much and they could see how tired i am. for all new divers like me. remember, guys with more experience will come and help you but you have to show you are struggling and dont force yourself. stop 1 : ( if youre close just rest at the bottom give urself time to calm and slowly slowly go up ) or go up with your friend, never try to beat marathon, water is not a joke. i thought someone will be angry on me because this situation but everyone was very supportive giving me advice that i should stop ealier and give them sign. thanks for video
When you have air problems, first thing you do is motion to your team and stay close, make them check your equipment that all your valves are open, you can use their spare CBD if yours has an issue. In general you should be close since your still new I am still mind blown that you went 80 meters and no one was paying attention to you as a new comer. Anyway glad your ok. But please don’t be reckless. Scuba diving can be an incredible experience if you just follow protocol. I hope you can do it again without issues and have a great experience. Remember to always stay close with experienced people and stay calm.
Hi, thanks that is good advice. I made a lot of mistakes that day and one of the biggest was I didn't take a refresher course. Yeah 80 feet was way too advanced for me. I don't think I am going to try scuba again in the near future, but the dives before that were amazing experiences (those were 50 feet or less). Thanks.
Don't let a bad experience put you off. Just go slow with it, scuba diving takes practice. If you feel like you need one, take a refresher. Hang out at your local scuba shop, there's plenty of free knowledge to be had as well.
Meters not feet. 80 feet = 24 meters. Notable difference.. 🙂 I fully agree with the other comments. He was breathing so heavily from the beginning, someone should have noticed the bubbles...
Damn - if that was me, I would have gone up slowly the first time I had to start sucking to get the air. Those gulping sounds to get air - fuck man. There's no way I'd stay under water that long while gulping and sucking for air.
Advanced Open Water diver here. 140-ish dives. This was hard to watch and listen to. I'm curious if this was a guided dive (from a live-aboard, like the Aggressor fleet) or if it was a private charter which everyone kind of does their own thing. I've witnessed a drowning myself (the diver was successfully resuscitated and continues to dive today) and I'll tell you accidents rarely happen how you think they will. You don't always see obvious signs of distress before an accident happens.
My opinion: If you want to continue scuba do few sessions in the pool (to prepare your mind and body) and when going "open water" make sure dive masters know your condition, so they will supervise you closely. By the way, I am NO expert, same beginner and started my scuba when was 51. Cheers!
Thank you for sharing! One could hear you hyperventilating and overexerting your self . You probably needed to stop swimming and take deep slow breaths to clam down. I know that's easy to say by watching a video. Glad you are okay.
Let me guess the diver in front is the Divemaster/guide??? Never bothered to check the newbie! It’s obvious the diver is in great distress sucking up all the air!
Normal, no se la experiencia que tendría, muy poca dado como movía los brazos durante la inmersión, la respiración super agitada desde el principio, espero que este bien el buceador.
Before the dive were you anxious? I can imagine after not diving for a few years no refresher and straight to the Ocean your anxiety was probably through the roof! Few yrs ago I started to breath rapidly and ran out of air luckily it happened on a safety stop and my instructor was right there to help me. Main issue was not breathing slowly and having anxiety being it was my first ocean dive. Sounds like you had a similar issue or was it your equipment not working properly?
Probably a combination of both because I did try to relax, but it seemed like I was not get much air through my regulator. But, yeah I was anxious since I hadn't been in the water compounded with a deeper dive than the previous dives and issues breathing with my regular caused the problems. Also, I forgot some of the key training principle which was not smart on my part.
Get medically checked for diving. I'm not accusing the diver here of not having done that. But people don't just pass out for no reason. The fit to dive form asks about a history of passing out. It is imperative that the diver (and all divers) gets medically checked by a qualified diving doctor if he wants to dive again.
Yeah, I am not going to dive most likely, but if I do I'll be doing heavy check ups and only shallow dives with a private instructor. The dives before that were amazing.
The most important safety mechanism went unused here, which is to drop your weights for an emergency ascent when all else fails. Kiddos learning scuba, never forget about your emergency weight drop mechanism
That is way too much of a dive to attempt given the training and experience. Please dive within your limits.. you are responsible for making these decisions. I am glad you are safe and alive.. what happened?? Why did you pass out?? Hyperventilation?
I am not sure what caused me to pass out, but I was having a lot of trouble breathing. I panicked and inflated my buoyancy vest and passed out before I reached the surface. I am not diving anymore, but need to get medically checked first if I do decide in the future followed by more in depth preparation and much shallower dives with a single instructor. However, I don't see that on the horizon even though diving is wonderful experience. My first dives before this dive were great and I got to experience a whole different world.
@@indomex4914I guess may be your valve wasn’t fully opened, bad second stage regulator not serviced regularly especially if it was rental , your group was moving too fast and you are not really a sporty person so you get exhausted and needed more air diving should be slow it’s even called the lazy sport,,having a lot of food just before the dive especially if it caused hyperacidity like fried or spicy food ,,,that’s the four reasons I personally experienced and caused me suffer underwater ".
@@indomex4914 i experienced that once with a rented one on another occasion the regulator valve was not sealed correctly so i choked with the sea water at 30M depth that was terrible , now I bought my own regulator so no more incidents with rental gear especially at the Red Sea
@@indomex4914 i experienced that once with a rented one on another occasion the regulator valve was not sealed correctly so i choked with the sea water at 30M depth that was terrible , now I bought my own regulator so no more incidents with rental gear especially at the Red Sea
Was the rapid breathing due to inexperience? Or an equipment malfunction? Was there an issue breathing out of your regulator? Did you start to panic when diving such a depth? I didn’t know how to breath properly either when I first started diving and would go thru air fast. Slow steady breaths makes a huge difference glad you are ok though that’s pretty scary!
I wrote about it in dive talk. From what I remember I was struggling to breathe through my regulator. This increased my anxiety as I kept to try to breathe in air, but felt like I was not getting enough. The reason my hands move is I have an essential tremor (genetic) and in a free floating environment it just kind of moves around since I don't have a steady surface to place it on. The ascent was fast and it was due to my lack of experience. I was around 80 feet (I think) as this was at Molokini crate in Maui. I didn't have too much trauma in subsequent days, although while I was in the ambulance I suffered from the runs and vomiting. A lot of people have theorized different things, but ultimately even the doctors in Maui couldn't say what exactly happened. Basically, I was rusty from a 2 year gap and I was a new diver doing a dive (80 feet) beyond my capability. So I think those are useful lessons, always dive within your limits and if you dive after a gap make sure to take a couple of training session. You really have to respect the rules in scuba otherwise it's over.
@@indomex4914 glad your ok I think everything you mentioned came into play. The 2 yr gap is a big cause of the anxiety in my opinion especially jumping right into the ocean. Always a good idea when not diving for awhile to do a tune up dive or a refresher course. Diving in the ocean can be exciting but at the same time anxiety provoking it’s way different than diving in a lake plus being 80 ft down was another factor probably should have dove to at least 30 ft. I can relate to what you went through when I first started to dive I would get anxious and my first ocean dive I dropped to about 80 ft. My air consumption wasn’t good at all and I ran out of air around 20 min while doing a safety stop. My instructor was right there and handed me his alternate air source.
There is a reason OW divers are limited to 18m (60 ft). In case of panic like this, it's less risky if you shoot up to the surface like you did. The dive operator should not take OW divers down to 80 ft. Second, if you had no experience diving (2 years after OW course is effectively back to zero) the operator should have made you take refresher class at least. And third, where are all the fish?! I didn't see a single one on your video!
something similar happend to me few weeks ago at 27m and few more experience than you as I am Advanced.. I wasn’t able to breath from my reg for some weird reason, there was plenty of water in it and almost not air at all, like it was completly broken and as I panicked I forgot to try my second reg.. luckely in the panic my reaction was thinking that surface was too far and went stright to my buddy.. he didn’t noticed me for a while and I had a weird thought in my mind that I would have never seen my bf again..as he saw me my buddy didn’t got the situation stright as I signaled I was full tank just few min before and right after I was trying to tell him I was out of air.. when finally he gived me his spare reg I was so in panic that was hard to calm and breathe again.. it’s horrible to drink water at that depth while you try to breath somehow from broken reg bubbles.. back on the boat I was shacking like hell and didn’t wanted to dive anymore that day. I dived the day after, felt blocked and couldn’t get down more than 15m but at least it helped me to unlock the fear and stress I had the day before and the day after everything was back to normal and I was able to enjoy it again. Don’t give up, just search for a very experienced instructor which is able to understand that you need to go at a slow pace because the accident.. do some dives like that at just a shallow depth of 10-15m to regain confidence and you will enjoy diving again :)
I am sorry to hear that happened to you also, but that's good to you had the presence of mind to still keep calm and went to your buddy. You put your training to good use in a critical situation, I myself reacted improperly & forgot my training. I know that feeling of ingesting salt water and gurgling is a horrible experience you don't wish on anyone. That takes a lot of guts to dive the next day and 15 m is a lot as well, but it's good you were able to overcome the traumatic event. I still haven't done a dive since then & that was 6.5 years ago. Thank you for sharing your experience.
@@indomex4914 It wasn’t training at all.. I feel like I should refresh openwater basics to get used to the right reactions more now.. was just luck that in panic my brain thought I would never get to surface with my own regulator and that I needed someone else one to keep me alive.. weird that I completly forgot about the spare one..but for sure your experience is even more scary than mine as you needed reanimation, I would probably stopped diving too in your case. You can maybe even ask an instructor to start over in the swimming pool if you really want to get back underwater with tank. I am thinking to make courses of free diving to see if I can enjoy more sea life with my own breath and a safer way to dive as with free diving you can always kick back on surface very fast :)
@@bet28Those are good points, let's see maybe some day I will start again & take it slowly in the pool. I'd also like to get a medical checkup to as some posters pointed out some things. That's cool you are considering free diving as an option. There is a cool documentary on Netflix called The Deepest Breath. Free driving is cooling, but you gotta be careful with that too :)
Wow...just hoping you can clarify what happened? Were you overweighted or just nervous? DM should have been watching. With the way you were moving, I'd like to think I'd have spotted from the beginning and you'd never have had such an emergency
I was having trouble breathing through my regulator. This was my 3rd dive or so after the first 2 (over 2 years before). It was a 80 ft dive at Molokini crater. The equipment I used (i.e. regulator) was not mine, but loaned from the diving company. I struggled to breathe for a long time and in moment of desperation inflated my buoyancy vest. Before I reached the surface I passed out and they gave me CPR on the board.
To že máte certifikaci, ještě neznamená že se umíte potápět. Všichni co jste byli ve vodě jste porušili všechna známá i neznámá pravidla chování pod vodou. Z vašeho dýchání je zřejmé že jste nebyla v pohodě, proto jediné rozumné řešení bylo včas ponor přerušit. ale i to má svá pravidla. Doufám že jste ještě pořád živa a zdráva.
Thanks, that's correct & lack of experience was the biggest issue. But that's why if I dive again (most likely not), I would be doing a lot more training & prep & do private dives (1:1 only).
Was having issues breathing through my regulator and using up tremendous amounts of air and compounded with anxiety. I actually did exactly that, I inflated my BCD and that's why you see the bubbles and me rising quickly (this was at 80 feet depth at Molokini Crater). However, I passed out before I reached the surface.
Hi, your shallow and quick breathing is familiar. Did you have a leaky regulator (as you breathe in, sips of water gets in)? I experienced that during one of my dives and i didnt stay underwater for long. Inflated my bcd and sprinted up. Thank god i was fine. Glad you are safe too. Touch wood, if it does happen agains, try your spare/emergency regulator.
@indomex4914 no problem. When we scuba dive, we are not in our elements and we have to try to be careful. You can google "leaking regulator" and learn more about checking for it before your dive. Thanks for sharing the video. Stay safe and god bless...
@@indomex4914 lucky. I nearly drowned once when I was younger, a lady came and did mouth to mouth resuscitation. Can still vaguely remember it. CPR has fascinated me ever since
Wow yeah it's a crazy feeling, ends up being very scary and you feel very helpless. If you don't mind me happening what happened in your incident? That's interesting you remember, the CPR is captured towards the end and I did come alert, but my miind didn't retain any of it, maybe because of the shock? Thanks. @@tydawidowski6245
Just why? There`s no current, why are you breathing so heavy? No signal to the guide or buddy? The rescue is, at least got the job done, but not ideal, usually open the gear in the water.
Honestly 80ft for a training dive while not recommended, it honestly is okay. I went through wrecks my second open water dive at 75 ft. I did my open water, TDI Nitrox, and dry suit all at the same time. I got my trim and buoyancy down very very early, they trusted me enough to let me do dry suit, then boom rest is history. Not sure what happened, but this seems PFO related?
Those ignorant Haplorhini still use stone-age measurements ... They meant 24.5 = ~ 25 meters ... And 25 meters is not really that insane, only that some OWD divers (I'm sorry, I just guessed it was PADI, but the OP said it was SSI) are not really ready for that after 2 days and .... ummmm 4 open water dives??? On top, both PADI and SSI final exams cover at most a third of what we had to learn in the days of yore ;) And we could have failed the exam, while PADI OWDs and SSI OWDs cannot. I learnt diving 30 years ago, meaning: no octopus, no BCD, no computer, and for the first dives (during the OWD) also no depth gauge ... The teacher and my dive buddies were right: If you don't know how deep you dive you won't be afraid .... After the pool session we went to join the regular boat dives ... with all the certified divers ... of course a bunch of competent dive teachers were always very near ... How deep did we go during that OWD: 30+ m ... And Yes, it's easier for any diver to know that you managed the 30m already without problems during your OWD course (even if current regulations force you to stay above 18m or 20m later, until you get your AOWD or Deep Diver brevet) ... And of course this means, the OWD course has to be longer than just 2 or 3 days, let's say 2-3 weeks, or 1-2 months !
What was the exact reason for your passing out? Hyperventilation caused by panic? What was the reason for your panic? Did ya not felt well during the dive and felt obligated to stay with the others? If you feel not well - GO UP! Start a slow ascent. Take your time! Don't feel obligated to follow the others! The absolutely worst thing you can do is to allow the discomfort to grow to a panic situation. Fuck what others say.. go up and relax! Its clearly to see and hear within the first minute, that you are very stressed. Monitor yourself! If you find yourself in such a situation say yourself "Stop! I take my time to calm down!" no matter whether you ascent or just stay standing!
@@indomex4914 Ok. I hope you try again and you enjoy and love diving one day! Dont feel caged within a group. If you dont feel well, just start a slow ascent BEFORE the feeling grows to a panic and realize that you are absolutely free to do this and everyone around you understands this. This is something my dive instructor told me within my first dives, and it helped a lot in uncomfortable situations. And at least your dive guide/instructor should have seen your behaviour, your acting and hard breathing from the beginning! But he did not. Keep in mind. You can ascent ALWAYS and ANY time! And detaching the Group is always better than a panic Situation. Cause unfortunately, you found out that a panic often is life-threatening. Wish you all the best!! Enjoy Diving. Diving is beautiful!
@@indomex4914 Don't blame yourself or your capabilities. Your training was not current, and the tour operators were not sensitive to easing you in. When you dive, you should do so knowing the risks, and feeling confident that you can either avoid them, or you know a reliable solution that can be expected to resolve that risk. If you just know the risks, but you are not confident you can address them, that is a recipe for anxiety, and later on panic. Diving is not supposed to be like that
@@AdrianCorduneanu I agree, definitely needs more training and experience especially with an instructor (one on one). Also, I think a couple of other comments made bring up good points about getting the heart condition resolved first.
I didn't have any pain per say, but it was much worse and I couldn't breathe properly and I was drowning. You suffer through it as you are trying to get air. When I inflated my BCD I passed out before reaching the surface and lost consciousness and only remember after I was awake in the back of the ambulance throwing up all over myself. That part was really uncomfortable. It was not dcs, but I was having severe trouble breathing. I was also trying to make adjustments which didn't work out. Overall, I don't wish this experience on anyone so please stay safe and dive within your limits. I learned the hard way that almost cost me my life.
Don't let this get you out of diving forever. Take a refresher, go slow. And don't take a camera for awhile, a camera even mounted has a tendency to take people's attention away from the primary objective of having a safe dive.
Good point, I think I was very low on air and so I inflated my buoyancy vest out of panic and lack of experience since I was having trouble breathing. Before I reached the top I lost consciousness.
@@indomex4914 I'm sorry dude but despite the miracle, your whole attitude about that accident is setting the worse possible example to anyone finding both the vid and what you write about the "experience" of trying hard to die. While most of that team was clearly dangerous, just for letting you in the dive altogether (unless you lied about your experience) they saved your life, and you're the one that took extreme risks acting like this disaster was anything but a 90% chance to happen with limited pre-historic experience going for depths way out of your league. In France you'd actually be in legal trouble in the followup case opened after the dive accident, your credentials and experience here would have 100% got you banned from even trying such a dive, please, dont keep alive the profoundly stupid way of thinking that got you into this mess in the first place, if they were stupid enough to let you di(v)e next to them, today you know you shouldnt' have done that, and it's the only thing you should talk about, in the description, or anywhere else. I hope you've followed up on your medical assistance afterwards and up to today, that you're taking exams regularily, because the sound of your breathing really tells a lot about how damaging that stunt was. I wish you well, despite your debonaire attitude up to this day, and hope you'll get to reflect and grow about that whole ordeal, as i can tell you've not done the work yet.
The fact that it took 5 minutes for any instructor/guide/group member (I counted at least 7 close to you) to see you panicking like that is astonishing. It seems their certifications meant as much as your dated open water license and number of dives, as all this video shows is a sheer lack of competence (with all due respect towards you) amongst all participants..
Yeah, I was so inexperienced at the time I didn't even though they screwed up. But to be fair I was also irresponsible or maybe naive because I just didn't have the experience. It seems like from the comments below it could have been major lawsuit. I did go the next day and try to thank the person who helped me though. Should I have?
As you’ve probably signed a waiver and especially as you luckily came out of this unhurt, I wouldn’t know about the chances of a successful lawsuit (also not familiar with the legal system over there). Maybe there were medical expenses which you could have easily claimed though.. In the end the people saw and helped you to the best of their capabilities, I would have also thanked them for this. However that’s beside the point that any decent diving organization would have never let it come this far. There was a complete lack of awareness for your safety. 5 minutes is REALLY long for a guide/instructor to not have at least a glance at their group members and based on your heavy breathing and struggling + great visibilty, I’d think there’s no way anyone wouldn’t have noticed that something’s wrong, had they looked at you. Apparently you didn’t have a buddy either (diving 101), or one that ignored every aspect of the buddy system was assigned to you and, yet again, was not noticed by your guides or even worse, allowed to do so. Either way it’s great that you’ve kept on diving! Would have been a mayor shame if that incident had caused you to stop and miss so many wonderful underwater experiences. I’m sure many have done so due to incidents like this one, which is completely understandable but such a shame at the same time..
There are so many things wrong both in the video and in the way everything has been managed, it also seems like you don't even have a buddy, and the guide isn't noticing a thing and swimming too fast, like wth? Diving isn't a marathon. If you feel bad or uncomfortable at any point in your dive or even before, call for a stop and ABORT! The main thing about diving is relaxing and learn how to relax, this is far from it, all the opposite actually. Please everyone DON'T DON'T DON'T take scuba certifications at vacation sites, especially the ones given away in 3-7 days, they suck and are there just to take your money not caring about giving you proper formation and confidence in water nor caring about your safety. Do instead attend to proper SCUBA diving certification courses, take your time to feel at ease in water and be able to perform all the exercises without struggling or finding them unnatural or scary, also be sure to know and remember all the concepts and safety procedures and know WHY they are there, and NEVER dive immediately after a long stop especially if you aren't a seasoned diver. In the video is extremely clear the diver shouldn't even have received their open water certification, struggling with breathing, with buoyancy, moving hands constantly. While nobody expects an open water diver to have perfect buoyancy, at least a decent one is expected, this isn't the case. The only thing I see done properly here is the surface rescue, that was apparently well done and fast. Did they provide pure oxygen? That isn't clear from the video, but consider yourself lucky.
Hello, sorry to be rude but from the first seconds of the video your extremely fast breath is already showing that you are not able to do this dive. And the way you move your arms while you dont need to use it at all makes it even worst. You should have stayed still instead of moving. Your buddy and your instructor would have come to check on you and calm you down with reassuring signs. If your breath still didnt slow he would have slowly brought you back to the surface in a few minutes in order to respect the deco stop. In my opinion the 80ft deep is not the real problem , 24meters is not really more than 20m as long as tjere is a 3mins deco stop 5m deep. The real problem are your buddy and your instructor never paying any attention to you for more than 5 minutes. It is a critical mistake. Rule number one is stay close to your buddy and always check on him. Everybody can have a problem it is ok and understandable . But it is not okay at all not checking your buddy and as an instructor not checking your clients. Just by the way you breath damned !! the amount of bubbles should have warned everybody around you especially your buddy and your instructor as long as they pay attention to you just two seconds.... One sign asking you "are you feeling ok?" And your problem would have been detected and this nightmare would have never happened. Antiprofessional dive
You are not rude, I have bad tremors in my hands and body (congenital) so that part is difficult to control. My buddy was my wife and she was inexperienced, but she did come back she was the one who tried the initial adjustment and drew attention of the dive master. They shouldn't have let me do the 80 foot dive and I shouldn't have taken the risk so I was to blame as well. Unfortunately who's to blame doesn't matter when your life depends on it. Of course it's not a professional dive, as I've told some of the other folks this was my 3rd dive after a 2 year hiatus. Before the hiatus I had completed my certification in Cancun with no issues.
@@indomex4914 Apart from your own decision to make that dive (which like I said in my opinion was ok to do because perfectly legal) I firmly think the first person responsible is the divemaster. 5mins without looking at you since the beginning of the dive once you reached the bottom is long , very long time. It is an unforgivable professional fault. If I had been the manager of this dive shop I would have fired that guy if I had seen your video. Then the fault is on your wife your buddy on this dive. She should have stayed next to you and regularly check on you by asking you are you ok ? Just like you should have been able to do exactly the same with her. It is what buddies do on each other. ( I dive a few times a year with my wife , and we always ""eye-check"" on each other every minute or two maximum (same when snorkeling by the way) Firstly in case she sees something interesting then I might be able to see it as well. Secondly because we must know that everything is fine one with each other. It costs only a second or two, and the consequence is perfect : not missing something great underwater, and feeling the dive is ok and secured. But your wife was unexperienced like you said. She made the mistake which is okay because she is not a professional. Amateurs are allowed to make mistakes. Professionals are not and must face grave consequences in case they do. Thankfully the story ends well 😅 I wish you nice future dives with trustful dive masters, long peaceful breaths, slow peaceful movements, frequent eye-checks with your buddy, and feeling a lot of pleasure !
What actually happened? I don’t get it, was there an issue with your CBD? Did you motion that you had air problems to your team? 80 meters is pretty advance. I only dive 50 Max and even that I don’t prefer and I have been diving for years.
I had problems breathing through my regulator and I was using up a lot of air I recall. I knew I was in trouble and I had to get to the surface somehow (which was also very dangerous), but I was drowning there and I wasn't able to signal to the dive masters as I was so inexperienced.
You have a cardiac problem called patent foramen ovale. You shouldn't dive until it is closed. I have been through this......unconscious, not breathing and 20 feet down.
Since you're such a new diver, I wouldn't discount your breathing from being new or in a stressful situation/environment. But if you have other reasons to suspect one, by all means get tested.
So many examples of basic god dive practice being broken in one short video. Fella, go back and learn all over again if you ever do want to dive again, for your sake and for others.
You had more luck than brain on this Day! Hearing you breathing can slightly give me a hint how much gas you were comsuming! Sounded like hyperventilating! Way too deep for the second dive, way to long pause between the dives and were where your buddy? Learn slow, live another Day! Hope you are healthy now! :(
@@indomex4914 Glad it worked out, yea that would be my thinking I need air. I like the idea of learning scuba diving but starting to realize lot of things can go wrong.
@@jamesrich8463 Yeah it's not difficult, but there is risk and you should be well prepared. I went in casually after a 2 year hiatus (being a beginner) on a dive too advanced for me and almost cost me my life. So please stay, we get one chance at life and it can shut off like a switch. My switch almost go activated that day. The thing that bugs me the most is that would be the last time my wife and me would see each other, but fortunately it is not. At the time were only married for 5 years.
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I have almost died diving several times... powerful down currents in Maldives dragged me down and out to sea. Little air left... decided to just relax to reduce air consumption , small squirter of air into bc hoping to eventually escape down current. Just as my air tank hit zero...I was tossed around like a rag doll by crazy washing machine current, then finally released and surfaced out of air. Then lost at sea alone in the Indian Ocean for an hour!
That's scary, are you experienced? I was a beginner and got in big trouble.
did you drop your weights and still not surface?
should always be in a pair watching out for each other
If you are diving and you feel like you can’t catch a breath just call it. There is no shame. Safety is number 1. This happened to me last month. Something wasn’t right from the start of the dive. Felt like I wasn’t getting enough oxygen into me. Started struggling for breath. I safely surfaced and decided not to dive that day. I hope you made a full recovery ❤️🩹
Thanks @TheDeepExplorer1 yeah in my case I just was rusty and forgot a lot of my training and also a lack of experience caused some of the issues. I did make a full recovery and didn't have any damage to body or mind.
@@indomex4914 great, I’m glad you were ok ✅
Huge shout out to the diver that brought him back up 👊❤️😎🙌🏽
I’m not even a diver (I do study it though) but the first thing I’m noticing is that his breathing isn’t right. He’s breathing too fast and too frequently, similar to someone having an anxiety/panic attack. Dude should have signaled his buddy or divemaster and surfaced right away once he started feeling dizzy or otherwise.
Do you plan on becoming a diver? I've been studying it the past few weeks and I'm very keen to book a class soon.
Sounds like 5 minutes of hyperventilating which could easily be anxiety induced. This unfortunate incident could have been easily prevented.
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Wow, that's hard to watch. I can't imagine how unbelievably bad the feeling must be to drown and then so deep under water... for me, just one panic attack on the surface was enough. pure horror for me to watch. thank you very much for sharing with us and so glad for the happy end.
Thanks for your comment and please subscribe! I am going to dig up more of the video hopefully and post it soon which has the ambulance ride and the actual dive (I think) into the water and descent. Yeah, it's a terrible feeling and one I hope others don't have to experience. It was my fault partially and I should have know better. It is a very hard lesson that almost cost me my life. Life is precious. You get one shot at life so please stay safe!
It's terrible, it's good that you're okay and they helped you in time.
I also had an accident while diving.
I was at a depth of 20 meters when I felt it was very difficult to breathe.
The gas pressure in the cylinder was 1300psi, which calmed me down. But after 3 minutes the regulator stopped giving me air. I couldn't breathe, I panicked and I was sure I was going to die.
My friend noticed that I had a problem, gave me her regulator at the last minute and saved my life ❤
Wow, similar to mine I was having trouble breathing through the regulator also. That's a good friend. Do you still dive or have you stopped?
@@indomex4914I was traumatized, it was terrible, when I couldn't breathe I was sure I was going to die. Nowadays I still scuba dive, I love it.
And do you dive?
@@KorneliaKlaudia646that's good to hear. I've stopped diving after that incident. If I were to ever get back into the water I'd have to do a lot of checks, training and then dive much shallower waters with a private instructor only.
@@indomex4914I'm not surprised, it's a very traumatic experience. I hope you will manage to get back to scuba diving. If you want to dive again at all. Good luck 😉👌
@@indomex4914if your in Australia I’d be happy to work with you, to get you back in the water. Free refresher course.
Who ever was leading that dive should have noticed the huge stream of bubbles.
Yeah it was little scattered down there.
I recently got open water certified just this past week, and this was agonizing to here you struggle for breath. Its also very disappointing to see that no other divers noticed you until the very last minute when it was nearly too late. That being said, Im glad your alright. Always make sure to dive within your limits.
Congratulations, I hope you had a wonderful experience and many more to come. Thanks, yeah I was also to blame since I should have taken a refresher before. A lot of things went bad that day and I am glad to be alive thanks to the people there who did save my life. Stay safe!
@@indomex4914What sorts of things went wrong? I recently got open water certified as well.
@@indomex4914 it's partially your fault, but I blame the diving center more probably, if they knew you were a rusty open water diver with just a few dives on your back and that those were long ago, they should have offered a check up dive before to check your skills.
glad you survived and a diver came to your aid at the last minute. If you dive again maybe go seek a reputable dive shop for a refresher course. if you were just open water certified, 80ft is beyond your training. stay safe
Thanks, yeah if I ever go again I will do my due diligence but right now I do not want to go back.
I read your introduction. I don’t know if you have yet to attempt Diving again, but if you haven’t consider my route. My first ever Discover Scuba class was at Molokini Crater in Maui in June, 2003. When I returned home I signed up to get certified right away. Unfortunately I ended up with a severe double sinus and ear infection and was unable to complete the course. That would have been the end of my foray into SCUBA Diving. Yet I loved it sooo much that I decided to continue the experience by taking Discover Scuba classes, also known as Resort Courses.. I took a full 17 of them before I felt comfortable enough to go for the certification in June 2016. As a solo traveler I always chose to partner with the Dive Master or keep close to them, even if they weren’t my buddy..I am now an AOWD with over 200 dives and do it as often as I can..
Mind you, I am not saying to take as many DSDs as I took, but it was a great experience to hone my skills slowly and the dive masters always think it’s your first time, so they are apt to keep a better eye on you and keep you shallow, usually 45ft or so, never greater than 60..
BTW, I did 48 certified OWDs before I became an Adventure Diver, than 41 as an AD before becoming a full AOWD.. All my dives have been on compressed air.. Happy Diving or enjoying our beautiful oceans, bays, sounds, rivers, fresh water springs, lakes, etc..
Hi, I haven't and don't think I'd like to. Watching the video puts the worst case scenario in my mind which would have been the end of life. I am glad I got to experience my certification dives before that in Cancun with no issues and that was a wonderful experience. Maybe someday things could change, but I'd need to get check out by a doctor first to rule out health risks. BTW thank you for sharing your story. That is pretty cool that you gradually build up to 200 dives. Slow and steady is always a good way.
Completely understandable as I too, because of my medical history, get checked out yearly by a SCUBA Cardiologist..
I was in a similar situation but got decompression sickness where i had to go to the decompression chamber twice. I was a newbie diver (open water) and my instructor would take me down to 80-137 ft. I knew I shouldn't dive deeper than 60ft based on PADI and NAUI standards but the instructor said it'll be ok. Current and bouyancy issues caused me to rock up from 90 ft up to the surface. I got back to diving months later. I wish you the best and know that you're not alone.
Wow, that's also scary. Did you pass out? Yeah that was irresponsible of your instructor to to break the rules. I also think I had no business doing a 80 ft dive at Molokini crater.
You should notify the diving agency and report your instructor, this is NOT the way to do things, it's taking unnecessary risks with people who aren't trained enough.
OMG, I can totally relate to this. My first open water dive was in Tahiti/Raiatea. Wife & I got certified and were on our Honeymoon. The rambo french divers on the islands took us down to 100 Ft. The dive was okay, but when I got back to the boat,...I threw up and had Tachycardia (rapid heart beat). Ended up in a tiny medical clinic, but was ok next morning. I did pick up courage and went on to Boar Bora and dove. Scary !
Indomex this is one the spookiest video I’ve ever seen 🥶 I’m so glad you’re alive and suffered no physical consequences, and that you and people around you will recover rom the psychologic trauma. You should write what exactly happened so that the whole divers’ community can learn. You gave a lot of signs of distress (hands movement, rapid breath/ short amplitude detectable from your bubbles, apparently you even switched to your Octo), you couldn’t grab another diver’s finn or bang your tank, or try a controlled ascent. The emergency ascent seems very fast and could have had catastrophic outcome for you and/or your rescuer (from the color of the sea bottom you were probably deeper than 18m). Immediate CPR was great but I didn’t hear the O2 kit requisition. Lesson for all of us, divers or not: we have to truly care for each other. These images will not leave me 😢 Long life to you and your rescuers 👌
Thanks for your nice response and don't forget to subscribe! I wrote about it in dive talk. From what I remember I was struggling to breathe through my regulator. This increased my anxiety as I kept to try to breathe in air, but felt like I was not getting enough. The reason my hands move is I have an essential tremor (genetic) and in a free floating environment it just kind of moves around since I don't have a steady surface to place it on. The ascent was fast and it was due to my lack of experience. I was around 80 feet (I think) as this was at Molokini crate in Maui. I didn't have too much trauma in subsequent days, although while I was in the ambulance I suffered from the runs and vomiting. A lot of people have theorized different things, but ultimately even the doctors in Maui couldn't say what exactly happened. Basically, I was rusty from a 2 year gap and I was a new diver doing a dive (80 feet) beyond my capability. So I think those are useful lessons, always dive within your limits and if you dive after a gap make sure to take a couple of training session. You really have to respect the rules in scuba otherwise it's over.
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Im glad you are ok. If you ever dive again I recommend a privat insrtuctor and a shallow dive.
Thanks, yeah that's the only way I'd dive again.
@@indomex4914 hello, you can stay at 3 meters deep and you must have dive computer for decompression stops. When you dive check the air in the dive tank if you can breath it. If you do the decompression stops then you have no bends sickness. If you have the bends sickness go to the hopital for do the decompression. You dive in a PADI school? What is your level? You are a dive master?
What kind of dive shop takes an open water diver with two dives to 80ft?? That’s criminal.
Seems to be a bunch of dive shops on Maui do this. At least in 2017 they did.
Back in the day an Open Water Certificate meant something and 80' wouldn't be unreasonable. I guess Open Water is equivalent to Basic Certificates issued in the 70's.
@@dougallen4675 Open water gets you to 18m or 60 ft as of right now. I just got my open water cert and my nerves get to me past 10m so I'd want to get way more comfortable underwater before going past 60ft. 80ft with such a huge gap is wild.
@@dougallen4675 Yes it appears to be the 1st level of certification
As a diver, you are always responsible for yourself and should know your limits. I wouldn't necessarily blame the diving school for this.
This was a really dangerous situation for you and anyone helping you, especially if a decompression stop is needed. Those helping you could suffer decompression sickness (the benz ). Don’t dive beyond your training and limits. If anxious once diving, notify your buddy and dive master immediately and make a plan to surface. Thanks for sharing as can help others learn.
It’s called the bends
No decompression stop is ever needed if you’re doing recreational diving right. If you need deco stops, you’re either a commercial or tech diver, or someone making a cock-up.
@@epicoutdoor5795 You're right that instead of the term "decompression stop" I should have used the term "safety stop" which depending on the depth and duration of the dive may be recommended but not absolutely necessary. That said if a safety stop is skipped because of a similar situation to this video, the diver in trouble or the helper may get decompression sickness, especially if there were multiple dives in a short period or if ascending to elevation after. Decompression sickness is well documented in recreational divers. The point I made is still relevant.
1- breathing super fast, a lot of hands moving, more moving more air needed. You should have stopped with your buddy on your side. You are only open water, should not be going so deep, with a 2 year gap, that's asking for trouble. Also, the people that rent you the gear should not let you go in that diving, you are not certified for that, but if you don't care why should they? The diver is the n°1 responsible for his safety. Go dive again but do things by the book, you will have no problems if you do.
Good points, maybe in the future I'll train again and do much shallower dives with an instructor.
You need to get medically checked out. That is priority number 1.
Glad your well and made it. It's hard to hear you struggle on the dive, your air consumption must of been very high by the sounds of your breathing. I really hope you don't give up on diving and can find the time to build your confidence again. I can only see from the camera but looks like the group is moving far to fast for you also.
Yeah they were and also I was struggling with strong current. Yeah, I'd need to get check out a lot before I even consider doing it, but the dives before this one were amazing experiences. I did those in Cancun and got to see the underwater museum. My wife also did a dive where she saw shark and thats on video. I'll try to dig that up!
Glad all finished well. Take your time to build confidence and skills. Diving is rewarding activity, but some work and time must be invested to enjoy it safe.
Yeah let's see, but holding off for it for now. Need to really do a lot of homework before even thinking of going back in the water.
Very interesting to see this progression. Very painful to watch too, but happy you are alive!
Thanks!
...that was close!!
1. Stay within limits
2. Buddy check protocol
3. Stay within arms distance to your buddy
4.carry a tank banger/ whistle always
5. Any situation...STOP, BREATHE, THINK, AND ACT.
...dont worry buddy, just continue diving....after a cardiac evaluatiion ofcourse.....
Gud luck!!!
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Thanks good advice.
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@@indomex4914glad you were safe man but what caused the problem in the first place ..
Yeah one Day at 18m i have the some problem and with nummerber 5 your safe, or god want you :D
Thank you for sharing ! Glad that you are ok and take care
PS Nice clear waters and coral garden !
Thanks!
Glad someone was there that could make the save.
Wow... I knew something was wrong the second I hit play and heard you struggling for air. Glad you survived it... but where the FUCK was your dive partner? This was 25% on you, 25% on your dive partner, and 50% on the dive company that didn't double check your dive experience before letting you in the water. I mean... there's no way the instructors didn't notice how green you were just by the way you were setting up your gear.
Actually my dive partner was my wife, but she was just as inexperienced as me. She is the one who actually came to help me before the other instructor (she was the first person trying to help me) and drew the instructors attention.
@@indomex4914 - pretty universal dive signal underwater to let people know you're in trouble who are farther away... is to bang something against your tank... metal on metal underwater is best. The sounds carries pretty well. Most seasoned divers know its a last ditch effort to get somebody's attention.
@@hardymonty I know you are correct, i just didn't have anything to bang my tank with so I was unable to do it. You have to realize this was my 3rd dive after like 2 year break.
This is awful. I’m sorry no one was paying attention to you😢 it seems like you were trying to catch up to the rest of them since the beginning of the video. My god. Was there something wrong with your equipment? Glad you’re ok. The whole group just left you behind!
Thanks, it definitely felt I couldn't breathe normally through the equipment so I was struggling to breathe what little I could. I also started to get panicky because of the situation and actually towards the end inflated my BCD to get up quickly cause it was very bad.
@@indomex4914 it’s embarrassing for me but I nearly died snorkeling. It was my first time. I was struggling to get air through the snorkel. Like I dunno what was wrong with that thing but I think it had a safety valve. Also my wetsuit was big. I didn’t know this. Never worn this shit before. So water billowed into my wet suit and dragged me down. So I was kicking, HARD. Breathing HARD. I thought this was normal. Struggled to float and breathe. Then I couldn’t breathe even when I was trying to float on my back. We were far from shore. Had to be floated into shore on my back by someone else. I think they thought I was just panicking. I developed rapid onset pulmonary edema. It took months to recover. And my lungs are still not the same. I was with a group of idiots. This was a company that rents the gear out and takes you out to explore. I blame them for not seeing the problems. I kept telling them, I can’t breathe. They continued the tour with me struggling to stay conscious. And we’re even trying to take pictures of me like this. Fuck these people. I learned to be careful because people you pay are not always professionals like they claim. I went back out a while later with another company and had my redemption. I’m an active person. I’m a tough person. I was treated like I was just scared that day. Seeing this video made me remember that. And people will talk shit like you need to calm down etc. which is true we need to be calm. But if you can’t move air through your equipment, there’s no chance in hell calming down alone will remedy that. Glad you’re ok
I had something kind similar happen to me on my AOW course. We dive the rivers out here and my deep dive ended up at a wreck. The current was strong, and my breathing rate increased as I went down the line. Then at the bottom we went under the wreck (it was flipped upside down) where it became pitch black and disorienting. Suddenly I felt like I couldn’t breathe. I managed to signal my instructor with my torch and he calmed me down but for a good 30 or so seconds I wasn’t sure if I would make it lol.
Hyperventilating will retain co2 causing a hypoxic event.
And that in turn cause more hyper ventilation. It's a vicious circle.
Lots of good points. As a 76 year old Instructor Trainer with over 6,000 logged dives, I own a dive shop and dive all year around. Not sure of your age or health conditions but it sounds like PFO. I routinely have my doctor order a stress test for me at least every two years. I am also an Instructor Trainer for Disabled Divers International and often tell folks there is no such thing as a disabled diver (I have a VA 80% disability) there are only divers. The only reason for you to give up is if your doctor signs off on your medical as no longer able to scuba dive. Don't just find an "Instructor." That's like accepting you doctor graduated i nthe top of his class vs the bottom 10. Is the instructor a newly minted one with less than 200 dives and only certified 25 or less students or one with over 500 and has issued 100 OWD certs and specialty certs or more? Is the Instructor someone that can operate independently or is teching under the direction of a shop? As a shop I need customers with money, but as a owner I must protect my liability at the same time. Pick your dive shops like you pick your instructors. However, the bottom line is, as divers we are responsible for our own safety and that means know our limits. Don't stop unless your doctor says so. Get additonal training and own quality dive equipment.
Hey @texasdivecenter2024 where in Texas are you located? I am moving to Austin in a Month.
@@indomex4914 We are in Lubbocki. Folks in Austin routinely dive and train in Lake Travis.
@@texasdivecenter2024 Do you do 1:1 only private dives? I'd be interest in shallower. depths. 80 feet I did Maui was insane. How can I reach you?
As a fellow instructor trainer, why does it sound like a PFO? Unless you mean IPO (in which case, yes... it is highly symptomatic).
@@indomex4914they have a Facebook link in their bio.
I will never understand the “rely on your buddy “ mentality.
I’ve gone from newbie to CCR diving in 18 years. PADI certified,AI etc…. Redundancy and self rescue needs to be addressed earlier in the certification process.
Glad you survived!
Thanks.
I agree, you need to be self aware enough to know when there is a problem and figure out how to fix it! I like to play the “what if” game with myself to prepare. I know when you are new, there is a lot to remember especially if you don’t dive very often. Given how you were breathing, it seems like anxiety or a panic attack . Next time you feel like that, quit swimming for a minute and try to slow your breathing, focus on something on the reef to get your mind away from the panic. If it doesn’t resolve within a few minutes, I’d call the dive. I have called a dive on a couple occasions when I just wasn’t feeling right. Better to be alive and have a bruised ego than not!
@@shelleymurphy1966 Yeah all good points, I just didn't have the presence of mind because I was so rusty to act so I did an emergency manuever which was super unsafe inflating my buoyancy vest.
@@indomex4914What would you say did happen? I watched the video and read many comments but still don’t really understand. This video is most helpful if that information is also provided. Thanks and glad you’re okay.
I was having trouble breathing through my regulator. This was my 3rd dive or so after the first 2 (over 2 years before). It was a 80 ft dive at Molokini crater. The equipment I used (i.e. regulator) was not mine, but loaned from the diving company. I struggled to breathe for a long time and in moment of desperation inflated my buoyancy vest. Before I reached the surface I passed out and they gave me CPR on the board.@@ttb1513
Hey thanks for sharing your video I’d like to ask if it’s okay to use your this video for content that scuba diving is fun but it’s also very important to know about safety your video is a very good example of why we should have a buddy and stay in a group and know how to do proper rescue I’m glad your safe and thank you for sharing your experience 😁💕
@@ismeenya2762 sure can you just send me link to where you will use this video please ? Thanks
Bro i had very similar situation, we were swimming against current and i got really tired, i tried to manage it but i knew my heart and breathing was too much. i slowed down i did few stops tried to continue i checked air it was 110 while my buddy had 180 so i knew i will be finishing ealier. i gave up struggling bc i knew i had no chance to beat current, i sticked fins in sand and my hands to rest - my buddy saw it he came to help he helped me swimm a little so i can finally rest and he took me to the boat i hat like 70 in my tank while he still had 160 haha from that moment i know if its too much its not worth you just better stop and go next dive as you cant win anyway just keep yourself save and your friends.
i was so panicked while being at the bottom and thinking but i remember best for me is to rest and get myself together if they see im missing they will look for me or go up so (1) then we talked at the surface and they told me i should stop ealier so i wasnt tired that much and they could see how tired i am.
for all new divers like me. remember, guys with more experience will come and help you but you have to show you are struggling and dont force yourself. stop 1 : ( if youre close just rest at the bottom give urself time to calm and slowly slowly go up ) or go up with your friend, never try to beat marathon, water is not a joke.
i thought someone will be angry on me because this situation but everyone was very supportive giving me advice that i should stop ealier and give them sign.
thanks for video
When you have air problems, first thing you do is motion to your team and stay close, make them check your equipment that all your valves are open, you can use their spare CBD if yours has an issue. In general you should be close since your still new I am still mind blown that you went 80 meters and no one was paying attention to you as a new comer. Anyway glad your ok. But please don’t be reckless. Scuba diving can be an incredible experience if you just follow protocol. I hope you can do it again without issues and have a great experience. Remember to always stay close with experienced people and stay calm.
Hi, thanks that is good advice. I made a lot of mistakes that day and one of the biggest was I didn't take a refresher course. Yeah 80 feet was way too advanced for me. I don't think I am going to try scuba again in the near future, but the dives before that were amazing experiences (those were 50 feet or less). Thanks.
Don't let a bad experience put you off. Just go slow with it, scuba diving takes practice. If you feel like you need one, take a refresher. Hang out at your local scuba shop, there's plenty of free knowledge to be had as well.
Meters not feet. 80 feet = 24 meters. Notable difference.. 🙂
I fully agree with the other comments. He was breathing so heavily from the beginning, someone should have noticed the bubbles...
A lot of stupid people in this video and I can handle it...........😮💨
Man you got really lucky when they finally notice you.
I know, my wife actually drew their attention.
@@OkayLetMeIn982 how is it the instructors fault? That was the DM and you sign a waiver.
Damn - if that was me, I would have gone up slowly the first time I had to start sucking to get the air. Those gulping sounds to get air - fuck man. There's no way I'd stay under water that long while gulping and sucking for air.
Scary Stuff!! Glad it ended safe and well!! Thanks for the share.
I know, thanks.
Advanced Open Water diver here. 140-ish dives. This was hard to watch and listen to. I'm curious if this was a guided dive (from a live-aboard, like the Aggressor fleet) or if it was a private charter which everyone kind of does their own thing. I've witnessed a drowning myself (the diver was successfully resuscitated and continues to dive today) and I'll tell you accidents rarely happen how you think they will. You don't always see obvious signs of distress before an accident happens.
Yeah, it was like guided dive with a tour, although they were moving too fast for us and there was a strong current we had to resist.
My opinion: If you want to continue scuba do few sessions in the pool (to prepare your mind and body) and when going "open water" make sure dive masters know your condition, so they will supervise you closely. By the way, I am NO expert, same beginner and started my scuba when was 51. Cheers!
Yeah it's a great experience when done right, but after that I don't want to take the risk again. It's a personal choice.
Did you dive again, later? I am so wondering that..
No I stopped diving.
@@indomex4914 I'm sorry about for this.:(
@@aysegulozkaya214 No problem, I am ok now :)
I'm glad you're okay.
Thanks
Thank you for sharing!
One could hear you hyperventilating and overexerting your self . You probably needed to stop swimming and take deep slow breaths to clam down. I know that's easy to say by watching a video. Glad you are okay.
Yeah, just too much of a beginner and went into an advanced dive.
Let me guess the diver in front is the Divemaster/guide??? Never bothered to check the newbie! It’s obvious the diver is in great distress sucking up all the air!
Normal, no se la experiencia que tendría, muy poca dado como movía los brazos durante la inmersión, la respiración super agitada desde el principio, espero que este bien el buceador.
I'm sock as well that a dive shop would take a newly open water dive down to 80ft. I did'nt go this deep until I did my PADI deep diver course.
Before the dive were you anxious? I can imagine after not diving for a few years no refresher and straight to the Ocean your anxiety was probably through the roof! Few yrs ago I started to breath rapidly and ran out of air luckily it happened on a safety stop and my instructor was right there to help me. Main issue was not breathing slowly and having anxiety being it was my first ocean dive. Sounds like you had a similar issue or was it your equipment not working properly?
Probably a combination of both because I did try to relax, but it seemed like I was not get much air through my regulator. But, yeah I was anxious since I hadn't been in the water compounded with a deeper dive than the previous dives and issues breathing with my regular caused the problems. Also, I forgot some of the key training principle which was not smart on my part.
Get medically checked for diving. I'm not accusing the diver here of not having done that. But people don't just pass out for no reason. The fit to dive form asks about a history of passing out. It is imperative that the diver (and all divers) gets medically checked by a qualified diving doctor if he wants to dive again.
Yeah, I am not going to dive most likely, but if I do I'll be doing heavy check ups and only shallow dives with a private instructor. The dives before that were amazing.
sounds like he's struggling trying to keep up
The most important safety mechanism went unused here, which is to drop your weights for an emergency ascent when all else fails. Kiddos learning scuba, never forget about your emergency weight drop mechanism
That is exactly what I did, but weighted too long. That's why you see me rising quickly, but because I waited to long I passed out on the way up.
That is way too much of a dive to attempt given the training and experience. Please dive within your limits.. you are responsible for making these decisions. I am glad you are safe and alive.. what happened?? Why did you pass out?? Hyperventilation?
I am not sure what caused me to pass out, but I was having a lot of trouble breathing. I panicked and inflated my buoyancy vest and passed out before I reached the surface. I am not diving anymore, but need to get medically checked first if I do decide in the future followed by more in depth preparation and much shallower dives with a single instructor. However, I don't see that on the horizon even though diving is wonderful experience. My first dives before this dive were great and I got to experience a whole different world.
@@indomex4914I guess may be your valve wasn’t fully opened, bad second stage regulator not serviced regularly especially if it was rental , your group was moving too fast and you are not really a sporty person so you get exhausted and needed more air diving should be slow it’s even called the lazy sport,,having a lot of food just before the dive especially if it caused hyperacidity like fried or spicy food ,,,that’s the four reasons I personally experienced and caused me suffer underwater ".
@@ahmedsamy8406 Yeah I suspect something with the regulator was off as I was just not getting nice flow of air.
@@indomex4914 i experienced that once with a rented one on another occasion the regulator valve was not sealed correctly so i choked with the sea water at 30M depth that was terrible , now I bought my own regulator so no more incidents with rental gear especially at the Red Sea
@@indomex4914 i experienced that once with a rented one on another occasion the regulator valve was not sealed correctly so i choked with the sea water at 30M depth that was terrible , now I bought my own regulator so no more incidents with rental gear especially at the Red Sea
Was the rapid breathing due to inexperience? Or an equipment malfunction? Was there an issue breathing out of your regulator? Did you start to panic when diving such a depth? I didn’t know how to breath properly either when I first started diving and would go thru air fast. Slow steady breaths makes a huge difference glad you are ok though that’s pretty scary!
I wrote about it in dive talk. From what I remember I was struggling to breathe through my regulator. This increased my anxiety as I kept to try to breathe in air, but felt like I was not getting enough. The reason my hands move is I have an essential tremor (genetic) and in a free floating environment it just kind of moves around since I don't have a steady surface to place it on. The ascent was fast and it was due to my lack of experience. I was around 80 feet (I think) as this was at Molokini crate in Maui. I didn't have too much trauma in subsequent days, although while I was in the ambulance I suffered from the runs and vomiting. A lot of people have theorized different things, but ultimately even the doctors in Maui couldn't say what exactly happened. Basically, I was rusty from a 2 year gap and I was a new diver doing a dive (80 feet) beyond my capability. So I think those are useful lessons, always dive within your limits and if you dive after a gap make sure to take a couple of training session. You really have to respect the rules in scuba otherwise it's over.
@@indomex4914 glad your ok I think everything you mentioned came into play. The 2 yr gap is a big cause of the anxiety in my opinion especially jumping right into the ocean. Always a good idea when not diving for awhile to do a tune up dive or a refresher course. Diving in the ocean can be exciting but at the same time anxiety provoking it’s way different than diving in a lake plus being 80 ft down was another factor probably should have dove to at least 30 ft. I can relate to what you went through when I first started to dive I would get anxious and my first ocean dive I dropped to about 80 ft. My air consumption wasn’t good at all and I ran out of air around 20 min while doing a safety stop. My instructor was right there and handed me his alternate air source.
There is a reason OW divers are limited to 18m (60 ft). In case of panic like this, it's less risky if you shoot up to the surface like you did. The dive operator should not take OW divers down to 80 ft. Second, if you had no experience diving (2 years after OW course is effectively back to zero) the operator should have made you take refresher class at least. And third, where are all the fish?! I didn't see a single one on your video!
something similar happend to me few weeks ago at 27m and few more experience than you as I am Advanced.. I wasn’t able to breath from my reg for some weird reason, there was plenty of water in it and almost not air at all, like it was completly broken and as I panicked I forgot to try my second reg.. luckely in the panic my reaction was thinking that surface was too far and went stright to my buddy.. he didn’t noticed me for a while and I had a weird thought in my mind that I would have never seen my bf again..as he saw me my buddy didn’t got the situation stright as I signaled I was full tank just few min before and right after I was trying to tell him I was out of air.. when finally he gived me his spare reg I was so in panic that was hard to calm and breathe again.. it’s horrible to drink water at that depth while you try to breath somehow from broken reg bubbles.. back on the boat I was shacking like hell and didn’t wanted to dive anymore that day. I dived the day after, felt blocked and couldn’t get down more than 15m but at least it helped me to unlock the fear and stress I had the day before and the day after everything was back to normal and I was able to enjoy it again. Don’t give up, just search for a very experienced instructor which is able to understand that you need to go at a slow pace because the accident.. do some dives like that at just a shallow depth of 10-15m to regain confidence and you will enjoy diving again :)
I am sorry to hear that happened to you also, but that's good to you had the presence of mind to still keep calm and went to your buddy. You put your training to good use in a critical situation, I myself reacted improperly & forgot my training. I know that feeling of ingesting salt water and gurgling is a horrible experience you don't wish on anyone. That takes a lot of guts to dive the next day and 15 m is a lot as well, but it's good you were able to overcome the traumatic event. I still haven't done a dive since then & that was 6.5 years ago. Thank you for sharing your experience.
@@indomex4914 It wasn’t training at all.. I feel like I should refresh openwater basics to get used to the right reactions more now.. was just luck that in panic my brain thought I would never get to surface with my own regulator and that I needed someone else one to keep me alive.. weird that I completly forgot about the spare one..but for sure your experience is even more scary than mine as you needed reanimation, I would probably stopped diving too in your case. You can maybe even ask an instructor to start over in the swimming pool if you really want to get back underwater with tank. I am thinking to make courses of free diving to see if I can enjoy more sea life with my own breath and a safer way to dive as with free diving you can always kick back on surface very fast :)
@@bet28Those are good points, let's see maybe some day I will start again & take it slowly in the pool. I'd also like to get a medical checkup to as some posters pointed out some things. That's cool you are considering free diving as an option. There is a cool documentary on Netflix called The Deepest Breath. Free driving is cooling, but you gotta be careful with that too :)
Damn, that sounds absolutely terrifying!
@@horsepanther yeah although right after I was in shock or kind of numb from it.
Wow...just hoping you can clarify what happened? Were you overweighted or just nervous? DM should have been watching. With the way you were moving, I'd like to think I'd have spotted from the beginning and you'd never have had such an emergency
I was having trouble breathing through my regulator. This was my 3rd dive or so after the first 2 (over 2 years before). It was a 80 ft dive at Molokini crater. The equipment I used (i.e. regulator) was not mine, but loaned from the diving company. I struggled to breathe for a long time and in moment of desperation inflated my buoyancy vest. Before I reached the surface I passed out and they gave me CPR on the board.
To že máte certifikaci, ještě neznamená že se umíte potápět. Všichni co jste byli ve vodě jste porušili všechna známá i neznámá pravidla chování pod vodou. Z vašeho dýchání je zřejmé že jste nebyla v pohodě, proto jediné rozumné řešení bylo včas ponor přerušit. ale i to má svá pravidla. Doufám že jste ještě pořád živa a zdráva.
Thanks, that's correct & lack of experience was the biggest issue. But that's why if I dive again (most likely not), I would be doing a lot more training & prep & do private dives (1:1 only).
How old are you? Have you fully recovered?
In my 40s, yeah I've recovered
@@indomex4914 Thanks you for your reply. I wish you all the best and great health. Do not resign on diving. Take care of yourself.
This hurt me to watch. Did you run out of air? Why didn’t you inflate your BCD and make an emergency ascent if so? No hate just wondering. Glad your 👌
Was having issues breathing through my regulator and using up tremendous amounts of air and compounded with anxiety. I actually did exactly that, I inflated my BCD and that's why you see the bubbles and me rising quickly (this was at 80 feet depth at Molokini Crater). However, I passed out before I reached the surface.
Hi, your shallow and quick breathing is familiar. Did you have a leaky regulator (as you breathe in, sips of water gets in)? I experienced that during one of my dives and i didnt stay underwater for long. Inflated my bcd and sprinted up. Thank god i was fine. Glad you are safe too. Touch wood, if it does happen agains, try your spare/emergency regulator.
Hi, I can't remember if that was also the case since it has been 7 years. Thanks for the tip.
@indomex4914 no problem. When we scuba dive, we are not in our elements and we have to try to be careful. You can google "leaking regulator" and learn more about checking for it before your dive. Thanks for sharing the video. Stay safe and god bless...
Glad you survived it!!!!
Thanks, it was a terrible feeling afterwards in the ambulance.
@@indomex4914why? Can you explain? I am really interested by that..
So what actually happened? Just a panic attack?
Did you feel the CPR?? I’m fascinated by it all
No, don't remember any of that. Just remember inflating my buoyancy vest and next thing I know I was inside an ambulance throwing up and had the runs.
@@indomex4914 so glad your ok. Thank goodness the people knew CPR
Thanks @@tydawidowski6245! Yeah that's great as they saved my life!
@@indomex4914 lucky. I nearly drowned once when I was younger, a lady came and did mouth to mouth resuscitation. Can still vaguely remember it. CPR has fascinated me ever since
Wow yeah it's a crazy feeling, ends up being very scary and you feel very helpless. If you don't mind me happening what happened in your incident? That's interesting you remember, the CPR is captured towards the end and I did come alert, but my miind didn't retain any of it, maybe because of the shock? Thanks. @@tydawidowski6245
What happened? Your breathing ?
Just why? There`s no current, why are you breathing so heavy? No signal to the guide or buddy?
The rescue is, at least got the job done, but not ideal, usually open the gear in the water.
80 meter after only one dive!!! Thats insane, how did they even let you do that?!
I know and my previous dive was my certification which had occurred 3 years before that. So this was my first dive in 3 years.
80 ft. Not meters but still too much.
Not 80 m.........
Honestly 80ft for a training dive while not recommended, it honestly is okay. I went through wrecks my second open water dive at 75 ft.
I did my open water, TDI Nitrox, and dry suit all at the same time. I got my trim and buoyancy down very very early, they trusted me enough to let me do dry suit, then boom rest is history. Not sure what happened, but this seems PFO related?
Those ignorant Haplorhini still use stone-age measurements ... They meant 24.5 = ~ 25 meters ...
And 25 meters is not really that insane, only that some OWD divers (I'm sorry, I just guessed it was PADI, but the OP said it was SSI) are not really ready for that after 2 days and .... ummmm 4 open water dives??? On top, both PADI and SSI final exams cover at most a third of what we had to learn in the days of yore ;) And we could have failed the exam, while PADI OWDs and SSI OWDs cannot.
I learnt diving 30 years ago, meaning: no octopus, no BCD, no computer, and for the first dives (during the OWD) also no depth gauge ... The teacher and my dive buddies were right: If you don't know how deep you dive you won't be afraid .... After the pool session we went to join the regular boat dives ... with all the certified divers ... of course a bunch of competent dive teachers were always very near ...
How deep did we go during that OWD: 30+ m ... And Yes, it's easier for any diver to know that you managed the 30m already without problems during your OWD course (even if current regulations force you to stay above 18m or 20m later, until you get your AOWD or Deep Diver brevet) ... And of course this means, the OWD course has to be longer than just 2 or 3 days, let's say 2-3 weeks, or 1-2 months !
Well said
What was the exact reason for your passing out? Hyperventilation caused by panic? What was the reason for your panic? Did ya not felt well during the dive and felt obligated to stay with the others?
If you feel not well - GO UP! Start a slow ascent. Take your time! Don't feel obligated to follow the others! The absolutely worst thing you can do is to allow the discomfort to grow to a panic situation. Fuck what others say.. go up and relax! Its clearly to see and hear within the first minute, that you are very stressed. Monitor yourself! If you find yourself in such a situation say yourself "Stop! I take my time to calm down!" no matter whether you ascent or just stay standing!
I don’t know what happened, but I was not experienced enough to act nor was I able to reach out for help.
@@indomex4914 Ok. I hope you try again and you enjoy and love diving one day! Dont feel caged within a group. If you dont feel well, just start a slow ascent BEFORE the feeling grows to a panic and realize that you are absolutely free to do this and everyone around you understands this.
This is something my dive instructor told me within my first dives, and it helped a lot in uncomfortable situations.
And at least your dive guide/instructor should have seen your behaviour, your acting and hard breathing from the beginning! But he did not.
Keep in mind. You can ascent ALWAYS and ANY time! And detaching the Group is always better than a panic Situation. Cause unfortunately, you found out that a panic often is life-threatening.
Wish you all the best!! Enjoy Diving. Diving is beautiful!
Did he oberlive?
I'm alive
He is obviously struggling, someone should had catch that way before.
Always dive side by side
OMG! But I am sure you have gotten over it by now & ready to start your Scuba diving endeavours again ….
Yeah, hopefully I might start slowly again with an instructor via one on one sessions.
@@indomex4914 Don't blame yourself or your capabilities. Your training was not current, and the tour operators were not sensitive to easing you in. When you dive, you should do so knowing the risks, and feeling confident that you can either avoid them, or you know a reliable solution that can be expected to resolve that risk. If you just know the risks, but you are not confident you can address them, that is a recipe for anxiety, and later on panic. Diving is not supposed to be like that
@@AdrianCorduneanu I agree, definitely needs more training and experience especially with an instructor (one on one). Also, I think a couple of other comments made bring up good points about getting the heart condition resolved first.
Some ppl just need to stick to pools not for everyone
That is a good point.
Glad you made it safe! I’d love to hear about how this experience was for you. Did you have any pain? Was it dcs? What happened exactly?
I didn't have any pain per say, but it was much worse and I couldn't breathe properly and I was drowning. You suffer through it as you are trying to get air. When I inflated my BCD I passed out before reaching the surface and lost consciousness and only remember after I was awake in the back of the ambulance throwing up all over myself. That part was really uncomfortable. It was not dcs, but I was having severe trouble breathing. I was also trying to make adjustments which didn't work out. Overall, I don't wish this experience on anyone so please stay safe and dive within your limits. I learned the hard way that almost cost me my life.
Don't let this get you out of diving forever. Take a refresher, go slow. And don't take a camera for awhile, a camera even mounted has a tendency to take people's attention away from the primary objective of having a safe dive.
Thanks, let's see what the future holds.
So did you run out of air or just become unconscious under the water due to panic ?
Good point, I think I was very low on air and so I inflated my buoyancy vest out of panic and lack of experience since I was having trouble breathing. Before I reached the top I lost consciousness.
@indomex4914 what you mean "you think " ...???
You don't know, they did not tell you??
That team is dangerous ☠️☠️🆘️🆘️☠️☠️⚠️‼️⚠️
@@vaggsman8900 They didn't inform me about anything or follow up so best I can do now (6 years later) is guess.
@@indomex4914 I'm sorry dude but despite the miracle, your whole attitude about that accident is setting the worse possible example to anyone finding both the vid and what you write about the "experience" of trying hard to die.
While most of that team was clearly dangerous, just for letting you in the dive altogether (unless you lied about your experience) they saved your life, and you're the one that took extreme risks acting like this disaster was anything but a 90% chance to happen with limited pre-historic experience going for depths way out of your league.
In France you'd actually be in legal trouble in the followup case opened after the dive accident, your credentials and experience here would have 100% got you banned from even trying such a dive, please, dont keep alive the profoundly stupid way of thinking that got you into this mess in the first place, if they were stupid enough to let you di(v)e next to them, today you know you shouldnt' have done that, and it's the only thing you should talk about, in the description, or anywhere else.
I hope you've followed up on your medical assistance afterwards and up to today, that you're taking exams regularily, because the sound of your breathing really tells a lot about how damaging that stunt was. I wish you well, despite your debonaire attitude up to this day, and hope you'll get to reflect and grow about that whole ordeal, as i can tell you've not done the work yet.
why did you panic?
Couldn't breathe properly through my regulator or at least that's what it felt like.
Listen to him breathe..
Your alive I saw the video 😢
Thanks, I think that's good :)
Did you have a heart attack? A panic attack?
Not a heart attack, but was struggling to get air for whatever reason and that increased my anxiety.
The fact that it took 5 minutes for any instructor/guide/group member (I counted at least 7 close to you) to see you panicking like that is astonishing.
It seems their certifications meant as much as your dated open water license and number of dives, as all this video shows is a sheer lack of competence (with all due respect towards you) amongst all participants..
Yeah, I was so inexperienced at the time I didn't even though they screwed up. But to be fair I was also irresponsible or maybe naive because I just didn't have the experience. It seems like from the comments below it could have been major lawsuit. I did go the next day and try to thank the person who helped me though. Should I have?
As you’ve probably signed a waiver and especially as you luckily came out of this unhurt, I wouldn’t know about the chances of a successful lawsuit (also not familiar with the legal system over there). Maybe there were medical expenses which you could have easily claimed though..
In the end the people saw and helped you to the best of their capabilities, I would have also thanked them for this. However that’s beside the point that any decent diving organization would have never let it come this far. There was a complete lack of awareness for your safety. 5 minutes is REALLY long for a guide/instructor to not have at least a glance at their group members and based on your heavy breathing and struggling + great visibilty, I’d think there’s no way anyone wouldn’t have noticed that something’s wrong, had they looked at you.
Apparently you didn’t have a buddy either (diving 101), or one that ignored every aspect of the buddy system was assigned to you and, yet again, was not noticed by your guides or even worse, allowed to do so.
Either way it’s great that you’ve kept on diving! Would have been a mayor shame if that incident had caused you to stop and miss so many wonderful underwater experiences. I’m sure many have done so due to incidents like this one, which is completely understandable but such a shame at the same time..
There are so many things wrong both in the video and in the way everything has been managed, it also seems like you don't even have a buddy, and the guide isn't noticing a thing and swimming too fast, like wth? Diving isn't a marathon. If you feel bad or uncomfortable at any point in your dive or even before, call for a stop and ABORT!
The main thing about diving is relaxing and learn how to relax, this is far from it, all the opposite actually.
Please everyone DON'T DON'T DON'T take scuba certifications at vacation sites, especially the ones given away in 3-7 days, they suck and are there just to take your money not caring about giving you proper formation and confidence in water nor caring about your safety.
Do instead attend to proper SCUBA diving certification courses, take your time to feel at ease in water and be able to perform all the exercises without struggling or finding them unnatural or scary, also be sure to know and remember all the concepts and safety procedures and know WHY they are there, and NEVER dive immediately after a long stop especially if you aren't a seasoned diver.
In the video is extremely clear the diver shouldn't even have received their open water certification, struggling with breathing, with buoyancy, moving hands constantly.
While nobody expects an open water diver to have perfect buoyancy, at least a decent one is expected, this isn't the case.
The only thing I see done properly here is the surface rescue, that was apparently well done and fast. Did they provide pure oxygen? That isn't clear from the video, but consider yourself lucky.
Hello, sorry to be rude but from the first seconds of the video your extremely fast breath is already showing that you are not able to do this dive.
And the way you move your arms while you dont need to use it at all makes it even worst. You should have stayed still instead of moving.
Your buddy and your instructor would have come to check on you and calm you down with reassuring signs.
If your breath still didnt slow he would have slowly brought you back to the surface in a few minutes in order to respect the deco stop.
In my opinion the 80ft deep is not the real problem , 24meters is not really more than 20m as long as tjere is a 3mins deco stop 5m deep.
The real problem are your buddy and your instructor never paying any attention to you for more than 5 minutes. It is a critical mistake.
Rule number one is stay close to your buddy and always check on him.
Everybody can have a problem it is ok and understandable . But it is not okay at all not checking your buddy and as an instructor not checking your clients.
Just by the way you breath damned !! the amount of bubbles should have warned everybody around you especially your buddy and your instructor as long as they pay attention to you just two seconds....
One sign asking you "are you feeling ok?" And your problem would have been detected and this nightmare would have never happened.
Antiprofessional dive
You are not rude, I have bad tremors in my hands and body (congenital) so that part is difficult to control. My buddy was my wife and she was inexperienced, but she did come back she was the one who tried the initial adjustment and drew attention of the dive master. They shouldn't have let me do the 80 foot dive and I shouldn't have taken the risk so I was to blame as well. Unfortunately who's to blame doesn't matter when your life depends on it. Of course it's not a professional dive, as I've told some of the other folks this was my 3rd dive after a 2 year hiatus. Before the hiatus I had completed my certification in Cancun with no issues.
@@indomex4914 Apart from your own decision to make that dive (which like I said in my opinion was ok to do because perfectly legal)
I firmly think the first person responsible is the divemaster. 5mins without looking at you since the beginning of the dive once you reached the bottom is long , very long time. It is an unforgivable professional fault. If I had been the manager of this dive shop I would have fired that guy if I had seen your video.
Then the fault is on your wife your buddy on this dive. She should have stayed next to you and regularly check on you by asking you are you ok ? Just like you should have been able to do exactly the same with her. It is what buddies do on each other. ( I dive a few times a year with my wife , and we always ""eye-check"" on each other every minute or two maximum (same when snorkeling by the way) Firstly in case she sees something interesting then I might be able to see it as well. Secondly because we must know that everything is fine one with each other. It costs only a second or two, and the consequence is perfect : not missing something great underwater, and feeling the dive is ok and secured.
But your wife was unexperienced like you said. She made the mistake which is okay because she is not a professional.
Amateurs are allowed to make mistakes. Professionals are not and must face grave consequences in case they do.
Thankfully the story ends well 😅
I wish you nice future dives with trustful dive masters, long peaceful breaths, slow peaceful movements, frequent eye-checks with your buddy, and feeling a lot of pleasure !
What actually happened? I don’t get it, was there an issue with your CBD? Did you motion that you had air problems to your team? 80 meters is pretty advance. I only dive 50 Max and even that I don’t prefer and I have been diving for years.
I had problems breathing through my regulator and I was using up a lot of air I recall. I knew I was in trouble and I had to get to the surface somehow (which was also very dangerous), but I was drowning there and I wasn't able to signal to the dive masters as I was so inexperienced.
You have a cardiac problem called patent foramen ovale. You shouldn't dive until it is closed. I have been through this......unconscious, not breathing and 20 feet down.
That's interesting feedback. How can you tell? Same symptoms? Thanks.
@@indomex4914 By listening to your breathing mainly. Just get it tested or never dive. Ive had mine closed. Good as gold now
@@zacspepi Thanks zacspepi.
Since you're such a new diver, I wouldn't discount your breathing from being new or in a stressful situation/environment. But if you have other reasons to suspect one, by all means get tested.
@@ghostface1066 Yeah I agree, I will look into that in the future. For now holding off on that due to other priorities in life.
You should never have been down there !
Agreed, and that's why I won't be in the future.
PADI OWD ?
I did my certification with SSI.
Wow
Omg 😮
So many examples of basic god dive practice being broken in one short video. Fella, go back and learn all over again if you ever do want to dive again, for your sake and for others.
Thanks, but done diving.
@@indomex4914 Good decision. No shame in learning from experience.
You had more luck than brain on this Day! Hearing you breathing can slightly give me a hint how much gas you were comsuming! Sounded like hyperventilating! Way too deep for the second dive, way to long pause between the dives and were where your buddy? Learn slow, live another Day! Hope you are healthy now! :(
I am, this happened almost 8 years ago. That's correct!
@@indomex4914 Happy to hear this! :)
I though you couldn't come up fast or you would get decompression sickness and blow out your lungs.
Yeah I came up, if I didn't I would have drowned.
@@indomex4914 Glad it worked out, yea that would be my thinking I need air. I like the idea of learning scuba diving but starting to realize lot of things can go wrong.
@@jamesrich8463 Yeah it's not difficult, but there is risk and you should be well prepared. I went in casually after a 2 year hiatus (being a beginner) on a dive too advanced for me and almost cost me my life. So please stay, we get one chance at life and it can shut off like a switch. My switch almost go activated that day. The thing that bugs me the most is that would be the last time my wife and me would see each other, but fortunately it is not. At the time were only married for 5 years.
Didint exhale
Untrained divers
You could say so (even though we trained) we had a 2 year gap and few dives under our belt.
Always buddy dive!! No exceptions
Sow many divers and nobody see you.......⚠️‼️ that was criminal behavior
I know.
1 for divevtalk !
Yeah, I added more descriptions to what happened there.