Revel is awesome...love the bed system and all the mods you can do....but without that Volta system...I have to go with the Travato. Although, Im a little biased! Great to see Tab, met him at the Revel Rally...awesome guy! :)
The revel lets you go camping in the actual wild tho. That travato is reversing 6 miles back up a forest road at the first washout/water crossing/fire break ditch . To each their own. Sauce: have long wheelbase sprinter and frequently reverse at above obstacles
So I have neither, but I kinda have parts of both - the Winnebago Solis 59P. First, I think many of you are overreacting to the cassette thing. Its not like dumping a bed pan! And why would anyone need two sinks? In case one is occupied? The smaller frig has been tolerable, I too use a Yeti for the day’s drinks/ice. Don’t forget the door screen difference, The zippered and magnetized flaps are great. Still, it’s all about your use case. For someone trying to choose a B van, I would make a list of all the functions within a rig, then under each list the different features out there that deliver the function, and decide which feature fits your use. Example: function - sleeping beds. feature - A. 2 big beds B. 1 big bed, one single. C. Bed stays in place D. Bed folds away for more space. Etc. then score your rig choices based on function value. No rig will have a perfect score, but maybe you’ll find the highest score.
They are both great rigs, but for me and my lifestyle, the Revel wins! The rear lounge GLSS is a game changer...your evaluation related to the sprinter is a big thumbs down! I have a Mercedes, they are safe and built on quality chassis. The cost to maintain is more expensive, but you don’t have to do maintenance as often. I live on the west coast so diesel gas isn’t a problem, expensive...but it’s always available. The cassette toilet is awesome for obvious reasons. 5 gallons will only need dumping once a week or so if there are one or two people. But for certain, it’s nice to have options on where to dump! The 2021 Revel has many new options that are also a game changer...which is the one I’m buying! Thanks for the video and comments! And for the record, I will not be full timing, so my comments really can’t be compared to yours...and I can totally understand your thoughts. Cheers and happy travels!
Really wish Winnebago did a Revel “Light” on the Ford 4x4 chassis. The 2020 Ford is cheaper than a Sprinter but offers stuff a Promaster doesn’t. It’s also gas and not diesel. Maybe in two or three years.
Would’ve been better on the f-series chassis to provide a more stable platform rather than a van chassis modified to have 4x4. The suspension can be modified to be dual terrain while at the same time giving more than adequate ground clearance for all tanks and plumbing that is needed to bookdock
Victor Torres this is why people go truck camper. It can make a lot of sense for over landing. Even the 4x4 sprinter is not truly an off-roading vehicle - but it’s good for posers lol.
Excellent video Scott. When I purchased my ’19 Travato K two years ago I considered a lot of camper vans and in the end narrowed it down to the K and the Revel. Winnebago has upgraded both since then but some of the basics still hold. One, I am a mountain biker and the fact there is no easy way to stored two mountain bikes upright (with front wheels off) in the Revel garage with the bed down is just a huge miss for me. Storing the bikes inside was one of the major drawing cards of the Revel but needing to take them out at night to sleep defeats this important benefit. Two, cooking while traveling/camping is one of the joys of being out exploring and living. Only one induction burner and no microwave/convection oven in the Revel makes cooking more about sustenance than food enjoyment. Granted, cooking outside evens this some. Finally, the bathroom and overall comfort level of the Revel was a non-starter for my wife. The mod in Tad's Revel addresses this but man you end up spending big bucks. In the end, for me, the Revel’s main advantage, and it is a huge one, is that it includes 4X4 and more clearance. I always joke that by the time I get my K paid off, there will be a 4X4 version of the Travato which would be ideal for us.
I really have enjoyed coming across your channel and have loved the content!!. I love the Revel and lots of amenities but the Volta system is the way to go!!
Thanks Scott, for this video. It was very enjoyable, but I’ll stick to my G. Much less cost to purchase & maintain. As a 30 year RV owner, one thing for sure: the Travato refrigerator & freezer are unsurpassed.
Great video. Love seeing all of the different ideas and the bed and living space in the back is great. Continuing to wait and dream until I get on the road. Keep safe and keep them coming!
I like the revel, and for the type of activities he does, it seems well suited for him. I looked at all the commercially produced vans available, and I settled on the Travato. For me personally, I have the KL, the size and function is perfect, and with its beautifully integrated lithium system and auto start/charge feature, I have zero regrets. Love my T! But I can certainly see the appeal of the Revel. It’s a nice looking van, and very functional for the active weekend warrior.
I just had to replace the transmission in my 2003 Sprinter Class B van I bought last September. That along with new brakes and several other repairs and I've spent 8k! I wish I was joking. I would never buy another Sprinter, as nice as they are. I would love to have a Travato 59G, but I'm committed to this one for a while. It will definitely be the first thing I look at when I'm prepared to sell. Just found your channel, really enjoying your content. ❤️
Scott, good comparison. I think for the most part, most people will be just fine with a Promaster-based RV like your Travato when dealing with BLM "roads", etc. You will never be able to truly "Overland" on a Revel because they are too heavy (over 9,000lbs), and too tall (10'). You need to overland, get a Jeep/Tacoma/4Runner. The 4x4 system lifts the floor way higher than Promaster's Front drive system. Also, the price is prohibitive. Compared to your Travato, probably another $60k-$70k more expensive than Lilly. Maintenance is much higher on Sprinters. Not just oil changes, but you have to be careful with fuel filtration / quality as Sprinters are notorious for needing injector maintenance, which is very costly. Finally, the DEF. You need to carry around yet another fluid because you will empty DEF every 5 tank fill-ups.
I like the bed on the Revel as you can always keep it made. Unfortunately you lose your garage or have to put the 'stuff' from the garage outside to use the lounge area. Having a 4x4 in my humble opinion is awesome yet most of us can get by with good clearance plus decent tires and Recovery Boards as we don't want to beat our house to death on gnarly roads. Bottom line is it's all about options, what do you really want and need and then how much can you afford. This site does a great job showcasing other rigs and giving honest reviews. Thanks Scott. BTW, I have a Promaster 136, platform bed, sink, stove, composting toilet, Wildpeak AT3 tires + boards with dreams of adding the Off Highway 3" raise kit which you now enjoy.
Travato because of the way I divide my time. Would only need 4x4 very rarely, but need a daily driver that multitasks as my fun camp mobile. Thanks for this video, truly cemented my decision. I've been a subscriber since day one.
I think if you’re comparing a Travato with lithium like yours, you should review the many 2021 Revel videos and specs as your discussion points. The 21 has a lithium system, not sure if it’s Volta or not. It has a slightly bigger, more convenient refrigerator. Much more counter space with a more useable sink and an induction cooktop. The outside table is more convenient to use. The dinette seat looks to be improved. Add the garage storage system and it looks to be hard to beat. The same company also has a mattress upgrade that looks real nice too. Wish you would have asked Tab about his seat back organizer. That looks pretty cool! Your videos are bringing a lot of interesting people and their cool stuff out for people to see! Hope you can find the new Solis PX out in the wild soon! It should be able to handle the couple with two kids that is being missed by the Travato.
Absolutely. I’ve always had the plan of converting a Ford AWD Transit into a poor mans Revel. Next year Ford comes out with an all electric Transit. I really want to see if one can convert one into a camper van.
Thanks, for telling both sides. I love that about you! 2021 model takes away from some of Revels plus numbers. Waiting for Ford 4x4 on medium length chassis. The lithium on Revel leaves a lot to be desired. GO VOLTA! Go engine alternator. No electronics in Revel. Come on Winnebago...get designers that were born into camping....not prep school city guys.
Great video!!! I wish they would make something on the ford transit AWD platform. Easier maintenance cheaper too. That lift he did on his travato is so cool. Your travato with that wrap and lift kit will look amazing.
I love the 4x4 and the GLSS. The Garage Lounge Storage System is definetely a game changer for me to get a Revel. Love it. I would put storage to open inside in the garage. I like that you can remove the total GLSS if you want. Love the safety features when driving a Mercedes Sprinter especially the blind spot monitor feature. And the auto sliding door is cool. Not sure if it has keyless entry and start so I don’t have to pull my keys out to open the door and lock the keys in the vehicle by mistake. LOL. I heard the new 2021 Revel garage has the heat vents in a different place and may interfere with the GLSS....i hope not.
Scott thank you for such a great video, have been exposed to other options in living on the road, other vans, truck campers, travatos and revels, there are so many options to look at Once again thank you
If you want to see Tough...Look up the Bruce Banner TouRig Spriner 4X4, It's Amazing! Thank You for the Comparison and another GREAT video! Wow now your in Tennessee where I was born!
I've been looking an various vans for a while. Like the Revel, but Travato is much more plush (fridge/bath, etc) and the Volta is a game changer. Storyteller Overland is like a Revel with Volta and apparently VERY well built - I might go that way if 4x4 is crucial. Curious how limiting the Travato has really been and how often you wished you had a 4x4. I think most people would be able to do just fine with a 2WD vehicle - you're not going too crazy with a 5 ton van anyway. Keep up with the great videos!!
Interesting comparison between these two class B vans. But I’m curious because I noticed when the bed is in the up position, it looks like it’s covering up the air condition unit??.
I agree with you on the pros and cons of the 2 vehicles 100 %. I put an order on travato GL 2 months ago just because of the volta system. Front wheel drive may not be that great because it seems the center of gravity is more on the rear side. I like gas engine more, 100 % agree with you!
I have only had my fiat ducato base autotrail vline van a short time. We are restricted in adventures in the uk by the kungflu at the moment, so not been used a lot. My previous van, I had for years was a vw t5. Hacked the little van around Europe and loved it. I want to take my vline on a drive from England to Spain, its not practical/possible at the moment, so I look to UA-cam for inspiration and increase my van knowledge When I got my new van I went for the shortest of vans, 5.4 metres, because it fits easy on my drive with other cars etc and its easy to park. I look at your vans and I do have a bit of length envy lol. Love the channel.
Seems like the travato is a better interior space and full time living. You can live in there way better. Revel is better adventure experience and you compromise on the living space and the bathroom. Although I love the revel bed/garage setup. I love the travado dining space/work station.
Thank you Scott as I’ve been waiting for this comparison for quite some time. It seems to me that once you pay the expensive price tag for the Revel it’s only the beginning. GLSS system, Owl ladder, box, bike rack, and another 10k-30k for a Frankenstein’d lithium system which is no where near a Volta. No thanks. You’re into the Revel for another 40k-60k on top of the original price. Travato 59GL is still the hands down winner. Like you the cassette toilet just doesn’t work for me. Once I get rid of it I certainly don’t want to sneak it into a Hardee’s to empty 🤮 Great work maestro 👊🏽
Scott, the 2021 doesn’t have a “Frankenstein” lithium system...it’s a full 30 amp 250 amp hours of power throughout the entire coach. The air conditioning actually runs off the new system. You can also add an additional battery now as well. Cost, well you surely have your points there! I’m not a Dodge fan, and the cassette toilet is so awesome compared to a regular black tank...I have a 35 foot diesel pusher and the tank dumping sites can be problematic when traveling. They are both excellent rigs in their own right, but we all have our likes and dislikes. Safe travels!
Travato is more of a older family oriented vehicle while the rebel is geared more to the off road adventurer. It’s all relative to how you travel and how you want to stay over. Boondocking vs travel to specific campground related destinations
Great discussion. I would like to have heard a little more about the drivability and power comparisons. Both are intriguing but 4-wheel capability is a big plus.
Lillie looks a lot better. I'm biased but especially after that great custom decal job you got. I agree with you on most of your assessments especially Mercedes and Diesel. I want to hear more about how you are going to get more ground clearance. I want that too.
Great video. Can you please post where he is going to get the lithium system installed on his Revel! If Winnebago would just put in a Volta system in the Revel I would do that in a minute. Disappointing that they have lithium in the 2021 but it is a tiny system compared to Volta, think that was a huge mistake. Only can run the a/c 2-3 hours.
Yeah, need to get some details on Tab on his custom Li system. My bad for not getting that during the tour. Thx for taking time to comment! Would be an honor to have you a part of our success as a Subscriber, if not already David
Hi Scott. I think the Rebl would be good for one person. Not a group. It s nice, but I think I personally I would pick something a little bigger. It would be nice for a weekend but not for full-time. I would like 4x4 in something like you have. Van were not meant to rock climb . However, to go up some back country roads and winter driving, it would be good. I have 4x4 because of the country I live in . Winter is six months long, and the road can be a bit challenging to drive. But I notice that a lot of dealers don't really talk about the insulating value in these van,s . My worrie is. Have the lines freeze up. It gets down really low here. Around -40 So, I really would have to do some after-market things to it so that would not happen. And price you pay for these van you shouldn't have too worrie about that. Lithium battery's have to be warm all the time or they don't work. Same thing if they get to hot. So I think changing would be a mistake. Having battery's under the van would prove to be challenging as well unless they are in a box that's heated .
Great tour! I love the shorter wheelbase and the coolness factor of the Revel, but Mercedes.means high maintenance $$$ in my town with few mechanics who will service Mercedes. I’m sticking with being a TravatoGL wannabe till the first of the year😁. Hit me up if you head through GA...got a driveway for you!
Loofah over scrungie, definitely! The nylon rolls and doesn’t scrub as well IMHO. :) Other than that I’m neutral on the Revel. Love the rear bed, I love that it has a pantry!, not a fan of Mercedes or diesel. Could care less about the clearance or 4WD.
Go Small. Live Large! BTW, I would much prefer the cassette toilet. But that’s just me. I am a retired RN, so seeing that stuff doesn’t bother me at all. Hah. But we have yet to empty our black water tank. I’m dreading that. Dealing with an icky drippy hose seems much worse than pouring the stuff out. I’m sure I’ll get used to it. But with our few days of camping in the new T, before lock down - when we were careful but not paranoid about using public toilets in early March - we did most of our business at the campground potties. So my black tank level is still on E. I keep hoping it’ll stay there! (My husband is immunosuppressed, so that’s a job I have assigned to myself)
I love it when the GL vs KL discussions start, lol. For people like you that need an office the GL is an obvious winner but I read a post on the FB owners page where someone said "after a day's driving who wants to try to relax in a driver's chair". Hmmm! So I ask myself, if it's a rainy day or I'm not feeling well, which one would be better to spend the day in? Would love to hear some GL owner's comments...maybe a subject for a future video...GL or KL and why? Can't be always just about the bed and fridge. (or can it, lol?)
Love the seating area in the back! Super! Can you use the drop bed partially lowered, or does it have to be all the way down for support? I was thinking of a possibility of having the benches turned into a bed and have the original bed as a "bunk". That way you could sleep 4?
I love the door mounted box, but I would love it even more if it were 3x the size and hitch mounted. Every RV has a hitch, but I never see any accessories for them. I would personally carry extra fuel and water. A suitable box on the back like that one seems the best place for those.
Great video! I’ve decided to stop renting and since my job can send me all over, I’m going to move into a Class B. Always wanted a travato, but the revel with 4x4 would be good for my channel. I think it could pull my Jeep too.
VOLTA !! Totally agree with you :). Thx for taking time to comment! Would be an honor to have you a part of our success as a Subscriber, if not already J Dorman
the GL needs a 4 battery option versus the standard three -- they did it in NPFE - which is no more.. so there is an empty slot in the standard GL just waiting for another battery.. 11,800 watt hrs!!! baby ;-) .. come on Volta and Winnebago please the Volta fans......................................
@@gosmall.livelarge I've been subscribed and stalking you on YT and on your site for a while now. If Embassy would come up with a Travato or Revel floorplan rig on a short Sprinter it would be the perfect bvan for me. :-)
The 2021 Revel does have Lithium, a different table and a better sink and a bunch more changes. (2) 125-amp-hour Lithium ion batteries w/dedicated second alternator to charge system Actually, a comparison between your buddy's 2020 and the 2021 version could be helpful since no one ever really compares previous with the newest version... It was a great video regardless of the volume problems, thanks for doing it and sharing it.
Wow on getting your Revel in Jan. tough waiting period. We had to wait 6 months too, so I know how you feel. Thx for taking time to comment! Would be an honor to have you a part of our success as a Subscriber, if not already Anthony
Anthony, where did you order yours from? And is that the case for everyone -- waiting 6 months for delivery? Is that a Winnebago back-order issue? I had hoped to order one in November, but your situation might prompt me to move that date sooner.
You two would make good traveling buddies for fort short trips and we can day campsites. Seems like your personalities complement each other thank you for showing me around a lot.
Great insight into both rigs. Different use cases for full-time vs part-time. I’m leaning towards the Revel but if the Travato had four wheel drive, a lift and a lift bed system it would be a no-brainer.
Agree with you. Thx for taking time to comment! Please consider becoming a Subscriber, if not already. Would be an honor to have you a part of our success Avery
I know this was a previous model year Revel, but I didn't know you could get something like the GLSS for that rear garage! That's one of the things I like seeing on your channel besides people & places -- PRODUCTS! Another P! LOL No I'm not going to get one. Not going to get that European Class B van either. But it sure is fun looking at everything everyone else is getting. Not sure it even qualifies as window shopping. . . Virtual shopping???
I wish I could get my wife to do a van. I like the GL bathroom. I like the KL twin bed. I like the Revel 4wd. I’ve seen custom builders build my epic van but a high price tag. It’s all irrelevant since my wife won’t live in a van for a few years. Looks like a Navion for us. That’s what the compromise is. Wish Volta did a Navion though. Great video Scott 👍🏼
The Salty Medic I’ve been lusting over the floor plan of the Wonder RTB. At least on the inside. We’re happy with the external dimensions and street space parkability of our new Travato. But still, that garage storage for bicycles in the back, +2 hanging closets under the beds and the larger bathroom and kitchen with pantry are certainly attractive. Wow. (And a real door, not a heavy slider. A girl can dream...)
Trish Benedict so many choices out there. I wish Winnebago would put a Volta in a Navion though. Well I got 6 years to retire so we will see what happens lol
Scott, my main man good video. I am still in Florida and working 50 hours a week. Planning to fly out to Washington in mid-September to pick up my PW Lexor FL and drive to South Dakota as my new domicile state. See some sights and a few parks and fly back to Florida. Retire in November.
There are a few things I like about the Mercedes. I like the larger bed. I wish there was a way to use the bed with AND the dinette seats at the same time. And a way to make the rear dinette a bed and sleep 4 back there. In the Travato I like the larger bath, and kitchen dining table setup better. I would prefer the smoother ride in the Travato. I'm not a big fan of diesel fuel. I wish both vehicles were all electric. I like 4wd but doubt I would need it in rough terrain. More for snow and ice. That being said I wouldn't likely use much in the winter. If I were to use it in the winter, I would likely relocate it to a more inviting environment. I would be very pleased with either of those vehicles.
Very nice review and rig. However, we are not yet swayed away from the Embassy Traveler. Nothing is beating the North/South sleeping power beds, dry toilet, inside split system a/c, no propane, no generator or solar AND a beefed up lithium system with quick recharge. Keep the great content coming! We are anxiously waiting for the Nashville Embassy get together location in November. Hopefully we can make that get together. ~ J
Lihtium is an option for both rigs. Two different type of OEM, Volta in the Travato and Lithionics in the Revel. Niether can really be added later economically
I lean towards the travato for the size, and gas engine, and lithium Volta system, and the RIP kit. I don’t know if the 4x4 is needed for me more than a nice to have. Good comparo-review.
In addition the 4x4 system will lower mileage/increase maintenance costs over the life of the Revel for every mile driven, regardless of how seldom it is engaged.
great job discussing important issues. Thank You! We have a Roadtrek Zion (3500 Dodge Promaster chassis) and I would like to have a lift kit installed. Where did you have your’s done and did you notice any differences in the van’s driveability? Thanks again
Thanks Andy for your kind work. Zion in is a nice rig. The lift was completed by Off Highway Vans in Salt Lake City. Tell 'em Scott sent you! Video on the subject ua-cam.com/video/SGeD9nr6PmQ/v-deo.html
Tough choice between the two. Like the Travato layout better but like the 4wd of the Revel. Hope you make it out to western North Carolina and explore the area.
Hi Don. Yes eager to get to the East Coast next year . Thx for taking time to comment! Would be an honor to have you a part of our success as a Subscriber, if not already.
Excellent comparison. I have to agree with most of the earlier comments. Seems like the Revel owner is giving up a great deal to get 4-WD. Much higher cost (even higher after he adds a lithium system), ugly bed bump-outs on the outside, and it appears the a/c would only work with the bed lowered. The aftermarket rear dinette seems like a very worthwhile mod. I wonder if he considered the 3" lift kit that is available for the Travato?
@@kbtred51 Thanks for added detail on the bed mechanism. Based on the video @ 16 minute mark, it would have to be lowered at least several inches for the a/c to circulate air. Unfortunately, then you wouldn't have enough headroom to use the rear dinette based on the video @ 3 minute mark. On the plus side, the sliding floor shelf/tray is great mod for any class B with a "garage" floorplan (if it doesn't rattle).
Around the 23:08 mark you mention another youtuber that lifted a Ram. Can you let me know who that was. I can’t find anything in the search so I must be hearing it wrong.
Hi John. Here is the video that 30 And A Wake Up made about his van lift. I will be making the same lift on my van soon. ua-cam.com/video/dLaB9aYx0QY/v-deo.html
I'd prefer a Revel but wish they'd offer it on another chassis... The option loaded Sprinter adds so much $$$ to the price. The Revel is a true 4 season coach... which is nice!
They both look great. Question, the Revel's fridge is half the size of the travato. Doesn't that limit the amount of time out and about? I could see it working for one person but probably not 2.
Would love it if the Travato had an option for a cassette toilet, larger gray tank and larger water tank. The travato would be my choice. Do like the Revel. What’s the difference in the Revel and the Boldt?
Good ideas on Travato improvements. Not a fan of cassette toilet for me. Revel and Boldt are really two very different rigs IMO. Revel is adventure rig. Boldt is a pleasure boat for tailgating or similar. Just my option though. Thx for watching!
Hey Scott, I wish Winnebago would do a hybrid between the Travato and Revel. I just, for me, don't want that Sprinter chassis, too expensive to maintain the Mercedes Benz, not knowing if there will be some place close to have work done when out on the road and I don't like diesel. I wish the Travato came in a 4WD, I know you can get conversions. I just wish it would come from Winnebago with those option. They could name it the Trevelo..... lol
Scott, great video - as we are looking at selling the Roadtrek Zion for a 4x4 (and been looking at the Revel)... Seriously leaning towards the Boldt 4x4. Anyone on here have a Boldt care to give their opinion? Thanks !
Great tour and very nice looking. Still love the GL layout better though. The Revel looks a little smaller and I'm afraid I don't really like those flairs on the side, but do see why they like it. Don't mind the cassette, but they need to be dumped so often. Nice 4x4 option Isn't the Revel around $170 grand? It seems a lot of money to spend on a new vehicle, then another three grand on the system in the back and then another ten grand for lithium. You're looking at $180 grand or more... If you're spending all that money, why not spend just a little more and get a fully custom van exactly the way you want it? Be seeing you!
Which rig is more compelling for your way to RV? Events and more at www.GoSmallLiveLarge.com. Thx for watching!
Revel is awesome...love the bed system and all the mods you can do....but without that Volta system...I have to go with the Travato. Although, Im a little biased! Great to see Tab, met him at the Revel Rally...awesome guy! :)
KEVIN !!! Thx for commenting sir. We continue to make our Travato more Revel-like LOL. See you in Wallace! :) LOL
The revel lets you go camping in the actual wild tho. That travato is reversing 6 miles back up a forest road at the first washout/water crossing/fire break ditch . To each their own.
Sauce: have long wheelbase sprinter and frequently reverse at above obstacles
I love the aftermarket addition to the garage. Great use of space!
Truth
So I have neither, but I kinda have parts of both - the Winnebago Solis 59P. First, I think many of you are overreacting to the cassette thing. Its not like dumping a bed pan! And why would anyone need two sinks? In case one is occupied? The smaller frig has been tolerable, I too use a Yeti for the day’s drinks/ice. Don’t forget the door screen difference, The zippered and magnetized flaps are great. Still, it’s all about your use case. For someone trying to choose a B van, I would make a list of all the functions within a rig, then under each list the different features out there that deliver the function, and decide which feature fits your use. Example: function - sleeping beds. feature - A. 2 big beds B. 1 big bed, one single. C. Bed stays in place D. Bed folds away for more space. Etc. then score your rig choices based on function value. No rig will have a perfect score, but maybe you’ll find the highest score.
Steve, Thanks for watching and taking time to comment. Great points you make
I don't understand how this channel doesn't have at least 100k+ subscribers.
Truth! But I am biased LOL. Let me know if you have ideas for additional channel growth Shekhar ;)
Right!?! Brilliant content!
They are both great rigs, but for me and my lifestyle, the Revel wins! The rear lounge GLSS is a game changer...your evaluation related to the sprinter is a big thumbs down! I have a Mercedes, they are safe and built on quality chassis. The cost to maintain is more expensive, but you don’t have to do maintenance as often. I live on the west coast so diesel gas isn’t a problem, expensive...but it’s always available. The cassette toilet is awesome for obvious reasons. 5 gallons will only need dumping once a week or so if there are one or two people. But for certain, it’s nice to have options on where to dump! The 2021 Revel has many new options that are also a game changer...which is the one I’m buying! Thanks for the video and comments! And for the record, I will not be full timing, so my comments really can’t be compared to yours...and I can totally understand your thoughts. Cheers and happy travels!
Thanks Ren
The grill guard on the T looks great! I put one on my Tacoma and gives it a great badass look.
Sweet. Hi GeoD
The Canyon Adventure Van add-ons have put the Revel back on my radar. Makes it so much more functional.
Truth Ryan
Really wish Winnebago did a Revel “Light” on the Ford 4x4 chassis. The 2020 Ford is cheaper than a Sprinter but offers stuff a Promaster doesn’t. It’s also gas and not diesel. Maybe in two or three years.
Interesting points Norm. Thx for taking time to comment!
Would’ve been better on the f-series chassis to provide a more stable platform rather than a van chassis modified to have 4x4. The suspension can be modified to be dual terrain while at the same time giving more than adequate ground clearance for all tanks and plumbing that is needed to bookdock
Victor Torres this is why people go truck camper. It can make a lot of sense for over landing. Even the 4x4 sprinter is not truly an off-roading vehicle - but it’s good for posers lol.
@@PaDutchRunner not everyone gets 4x4 for off roading, i use mine to go skiing in the winter
Excellent video Scott. When I purchased my ’19 Travato K two years ago I considered a lot of camper vans and in the end narrowed it down to the K and the Revel. Winnebago has upgraded both since then but some of the basics still hold. One, I am a mountain biker and the fact there is no easy way to stored two mountain bikes upright (with front wheels off) in the Revel garage with the bed down is just a huge miss for me. Storing the bikes inside was one of the major drawing cards of the Revel but needing to take them out at night to sleep defeats this important benefit. Two, cooking while traveling/camping is one of the joys of being out exploring and living. Only one induction burner and no microwave/convection oven in the Revel makes cooking more about sustenance than food enjoyment. Granted, cooking outside evens this some. Finally, the bathroom and overall comfort level of the Revel was a non-starter for my wife. The mod in Tad's Revel addresses this but man you end up spending big bucks. In the end, for me, the Revel’s main advantage, and it is a huge one, is that it includes 4X4 and more clearance. I always joke that by the time I get my K paid off, there will be a 4X4 version of the Travato which would be ideal for us.
You Make good points Ted.
I really have enjoyed coming across your channel and have loved the content!!. I love the Revel and lots of amenities but the Volta system is the way to go!!
Welcome aboard! Thrilled to have you part of my Audience Friends :)
Thanks Scott, for this video. It was very enjoyable, but I’ll stick to my G. Much less cost to purchase & maintain. As a 30 year RV owner, one thing for sure: the Travato refrigerator & freezer are unsurpassed.
Truth on the fridge and freezer! Thanks for watching and taking time to comment Charlie
The cassette toilet is Great 👍 and one vote for the Rebel. Battery upgrade is a must. Thanks for sharing your van tour.
Yes, thanks to Tab for sharing his van with us. Hopefully you are subscriber! Thanks for watching and taking time to comment Philip
Great video. Love seeing all of the different ideas and the bed and living space in the back is great. Continuing to wait and dream until I get on the road. Keep safe and keep them coming!
Thanks Cheri D. Glad you enjoyed it
I like the revel, and for the type of activities he does, it seems well suited for him. I looked at all the commercially produced vans available, and I settled on the Travato. For me personally, I have the KL, the size and function is perfect, and with its beautifully integrated lithium system and auto start/charge feature, I have zero regrets. Love my T! But I can certainly see the appeal of the Revel. It’s a nice looking van, and very functional for the active weekend warrior.
Thanks for sharing. Travato is tough to beat, unless one needs a Revel!
Appreciate the objective comparison between the Revel vs Travato. Thanks, Scott.
Glad you enjoyed it!
I just had to replace the transmission in my 2003 Sprinter Class B van I bought last September. That along with new brakes and several other repairs and I've spent 8k! I wish I was joking. I would never buy another Sprinter, as nice as they are. I would love to have a Travato 59G, but I'm committed to this one for a while. It will definitely be the first thing I look at when I'm prepared to sell.
Just found your channel, really enjoying your content. ❤️
Thanks for watching and taking time to comment Fred’s mom !
Scott, good comparison. I think for the most part, most people will be just fine with a Promaster-based RV like your Travato when dealing with BLM "roads", etc. You will never be able to truly "Overland" on a Revel because they are too heavy (over 9,000lbs), and too tall (10'). You need to overland, get a Jeep/Tacoma/4Runner. The 4x4 system lifts the floor way higher than Promaster's Front drive system. Also, the price is prohibitive. Compared to your Travato, probably another $60k-$70k more expensive than Lilly. Maintenance is much higher on Sprinters. Not just oil changes, but you have to be careful with fuel filtration / quality as Sprinters are notorious for needing injector maintenance, which is very costly. Finally, the DEF. You need to carry around yet another fluid because you will empty DEF every 5 tank fill-ups.
Glenn, thanks for your comment. Appreciate that
You do a wonderful job on ll of your videos. Thank you for all of your efforts! Safe travels!!!!
Glad you like them! Thx Dianna
I agree with your views on the RvsT and think the Revel would have been ideal for me 40yrs ago, but now it is all about comfort and convenience.
Truth!
I found your channel from Kevin 30 and a Wake Up. Your videos have been super helpful! I’ve been binge watching and taking notes. THANK YOU!!
Awesome Adda! Kevin is the real deal! Thx for being part of our success here
Thanks Scott I am trying to figure out between the Travado and Revel this helps.
Glad it was helpful Brad. I think you are a Subscriber already?
@@gosmall.livelarge Yes I am
I like the bed on the Revel as you can always keep it made. Unfortunately you lose your garage or have to put the 'stuff' from the garage outside to use the lounge area. Having a 4x4 in my humble opinion is awesome yet most of us can get by with good clearance plus decent tires and Recovery Boards as we don't want to beat our house to death on gnarly roads.
Bottom line is it's all about options, what do you really want and need and then how much can you afford. This site does a great job showcasing other rigs and giving honest reviews.
Thanks Scott. BTW, I have a Promaster 136, platform bed, sink, stove, composting toilet, Wildpeak AT3 tires + boards with dreams of adding the Off Highway 3" raise kit which you now enjoy.
thx Dougal
Travato because of the way I divide my time. Would only need 4x4 very rarely, but need a daily driver that multitasks as my fun camp mobile. Thanks for this video, truly cemented my decision. I've been a subscriber since day one.
Sue, thx for being there since the beginning of this exciting journey.
I think if you’re comparing a Travato with lithium like yours, you should review the many 2021 Revel videos and specs as your discussion points. The 21 has a lithium system, not sure if it’s Volta or not. It has a slightly bigger, more convenient refrigerator. Much more counter space with a more useable sink and an induction cooktop. The outside table is more convenient to use. The dinette seat looks to be improved. Add the garage storage system and it looks to be hard to beat. The same company also has a mattress upgrade that looks real nice too.
Wish you would have asked Tab about his seat back organizer. That looks pretty cool!
Your videos are bringing a lot of interesting people and their cool stuff out for people to see! Hope you can find the new Solis PX out in the wild soon! It should be able to handle the couple with two kids that is being missed by the Travato.
There is a 250 watts Xantrex system with a 2000w inverter.
Thanks for your points John and for taking time to comment
Scott, You make me really think. Thank you for all you do...! Roger
Hey T & C … no problem. Revel is a solid rig for many. Just not me ;)
This is one great video! Thanks for the comparison- very cool. Strong work 💪 I like both!
Thank you Doctor.
Love the mods. If only it was on a Transit AWD chassis.
Agree Mr. Kurtz
Absolutely. I’ve always had the plan of converting a Ford AWD Transit into a poor mans Revel. Next year Ford comes out with an all electric Transit. I really want to see if one can convert one into a camper van.
Better to have it than not, but with such low ground clearance it only makes partial sense.
Well done. We were torn between the Revel and the Travato 59K. The Revel looks awesome but in the end the Travato met more of our needs.
Travato is tough to beat unless a 4x4 van is needed
Thanks, for telling both sides. I love that about you! 2021 model takes away from some of Revels plus numbers. Waiting for Ford 4x4 on medium length chassis. The lithium on Revel leaves a lot to be desired. GO VOLTA! Go engine alternator. No electronics in Revel. Come on Winnebago...get designers that were born into camping....not prep school city guys.
I’m with you on Volta !! Thanks for watching and taking time to comment Sunny
Great video!!! I wish they would make something on the ford transit AWD platform. Easier maintenance cheaper too. That lift he did on his travato is so cool. Your travato with that wrap and lift kit will look amazing.
I totally agree on Ford and the 30AAWU (30 And A Wake Up channel) lifting his Travato.
I love the 4x4 and the GLSS. The Garage Lounge Storage System is definetely a game changer for me to get a Revel. Love it. I would put storage to open inside in the garage. I like that you can remove the total GLSS if you want. Love the safety features when driving a Mercedes Sprinter especially the blind spot monitor feature. And the auto sliding door is cool. Not sure if it has keyless entry and start so I don’t have to pull my keys out to open the door and lock the keys in the vehicle by mistake. LOL. I heard the new 2021 Revel garage has the heat vents in a different place and may interfere with the GLSS....i hope not.
Good points
Scott thank you for such a great video, have been exposed to other options in living on the road, other vans, truck campers, travatos and revels, there are so many options to look at
Once again thank you
Greg, my pleasure. Thanks for watching and taking time to comment
Go Small. Live Large! Put a deposit on a truck camper today. Taking the first step!
Thank you sir for your info. I'm a newbie I'm kind of between the revel and travato.
Congratulations on exploring your options. Appreciate you watching. It is all about how the floor plan delivers on your why you want to RV
If you want to see Tough...Look up the Bruce Banner TouRig Spriner 4X4, It's Amazing! Thank You for the Comparison and another GREAT video! Wow now your in Tennessee where I was born!
Thanks Richard
I've been looking an various vans for a while. Like the Revel, but Travato is much more plush (fridge/bath, etc) and the Volta is a game changer. Storyteller Overland is like a Revel with Volta and apparently VERY well built - I might go that way if 4x4 is crucial. Curious how limiting the Travato has really been and how often you wished you had a 4x4. I think most people would be able to do just fine with a 2WD vehicle - you're not going too crazy with a 5 ton van anyway. Keep up with the great videos!!
Hey Gerry! With only a handful of exceptions I have had no need for 4x4. I’m more of an Urban Camper sticking to paved roads.
Interesting comparison between these two class B vans. But I’m curious because I noticed when the bed is in the up position, it looks like it’s covering up the air condition unit??.
I’m told there are side vents as well and the bed can be lowered a bit to let the A/C operate. Good question Eleanor
I agree with you on the pros and cons of the 2 vehicles 100 %. I put an order on travato GL 2 months ago just because of the volta system. Front wheel drive may not be that great because it seems the center of gravity is more on the rear side. I like gas engine more, 100 % agree with you!
Congrats on your GL with Volta Yali. Nice job!
I have only had my fiat ducato base autotrail vline van a short time. We are restricted in adventures in the uk by the kungflu at the moment, so not been used a lot. My previous van, I had for years was a vw t5. Hacked the little van around Europe and loved it.
I want to take my vline on a drive from England to Spain, its not practical/possible at the moment, so I look to UA-cam for inspiration and increase my van knowledge
When I got my new van I went for the shortest of vans, 5.4 metres, because it fits easy on my drive with other cars etc and its easy to park. I look at your vans and I do have a bit of length envy lol.
Love the channel.
Love 🇬🇧... would love ❤️ to bring my van to 🇬🇧 and Europe to float around for a couple years. Thx for Sharing
Seems like the travato is a better interior space and full time living. You can live in there way better. Revel is better adventure experience and you compromise on the living space and the bathroom. Although I love the revel bed/garage setup. I love the travado dining space/work station.
Truth. Thx for taking time to comment! Would be an honor to have you a part of our success as a Subscriber, if not already Eric
Thank you Scott as I’ve been waiting for this comparison for quite some time. It seems to me that once you pay the expensive price tag for the Revel it’s only the beginning. GLSS system, Owl ladder, box, bike rack, and another 10k-30k for a Frankenstein’d lithium system which is no where near a Volta. No thanks. You’re into the Revel for another 40k-60k on top of the original price. Travato 59GL is still the hands down winner. Like you the cassette toilet just doesn’t work for me. Once I get rid of it I certainly don’t want to sneak it into a Hardee’s to empty 🤮 Great work maestro 👊🏽
I’m with you on several of your points Lionel. Thanks for watching and taking time to comment
Scott, the 2021 doesn’t have a “Frankenstein” lithium system...it’s a full 30 amp 250 amp hours of power throughout the entire coach. The air conditioning actually runs off the new system. You can also add an additional battery now as well. Cost, well you surely have your points there! I’m not a Dodge fan, and the cassette toilet is so awesome compared to a regular black tank...I have a 35 foot diesel pusher and the tank dumping sites can be problematic when traveling. They are both excellent rigs in their own right, but we all have our likes and dislikes. Safe travels!
Two gorgeous vehicles there gentlemen..
I’m with you !!
As we try to figure out what type of van we would like i loved this comparison.
Hi Chris
Travato is more of a older family oriented vehicle while the rebel is geared more to the off road adventurer. It’s all relative to how you travel and how you want to stay over. Boondocking vs travel to specific campground related destinations
Good to know i”m part of the “older family oriented” Travato owner Victor - LOL. Thanks for watching, subscribing, and taking time to comment
I'm moved from a class C to a class B Coachmen Beyond. I love it! No outside storage but I made B it work w a hitch basket.
Good idea on the hitch basket. I moved a litter box robot from Chicago to FL in a hitch basket. LOL
Great discussion. I would like to have heard a little more about the drivability and power comparisons. Both are intriguing but 4-wheel capability is a big plus.
Thanks for watching, subscribing, and taking time to comment iTrove
Lillie looks a lot better. I'm biased but especially after that great custom decal job you got. I agree with you on most of your assessments especially Mercedes and Diesel. I want to hear more about how you are going to get more ground clearance. I want that too.
I’m planning to lift my Travato just like Kevin at 30 And A Wake up did.. check out his channel on UA-cam for his story.
Great video. Can you please post where he is going to get the lithium system installed on his Revel! If Winnebago would just put in a Volta system in the Revel I would do that in a minute. Disappointing that they have lithium in the 2021 but it is a tiny system compared to Volta, think that was a huge mistake. Only can run the a/c 2-3 hours.
Yeah, need to get some details on Tab on his custom Li system. My bad for not getting that during the tour. Thx for taking time to comment! Would be an honor to have you a part of our success as a Subscriber, if not already David
Hi Scott. I think the Rebl would be good for one person. Not a group. It s nice, but I think I personally I would pick something a little bigger. It would be nice for a weekend but not for full-time. I would like 4x4 in something like you have. Van were not meant to rock climb . However, to go up some back country roads and winter driving, it would be good. I have 4x4 because of the country I live in . Winter is six months long, and the road can be a bit challenging to drive. But I notice that a lot of dealers don't really talk about the insulating value in these van,s . My worrie is. Have the lines freeze up. It gets down really low here. Around -40 So, I really would have to do some after-market things to it so that would not happen. And price you pay for these van you shouldn't have too worrie about that. Lithium battery's have to be warm all the time or they don't work. Same thing if they get to hot. So I think changing would be a mistake. Having battery's under the van would prove to be challenging as well unless they are in a box that's heated .
Thx Mr. D… I have some STO videos coming up, including STO vs Revel for value. Hope you see that vid
Great tour! I love the shorter wheelbase and the coolness factor of the Revel, but Mercedes.means high maintenance $$$ in my town with few mechanics who will service Mercedes. I’m sticking with being a TravatoGL wannabe till the first of the year😁. Hit me up if you head through GA...got a driveway for you!
I would love to see that sliding door on a travato !
Excited to return to GA... Thanks for watching and taking time to comment Susan
Loofah over scrungie, definitely! The nylon rolls and doesn’t scrub as well IMHO. :) Other than that I’m neutral on the Revel. Love the rear bed, I love that it has a pantry!, not a fan of Mercedes or diesel. Could care less about the clearance or 4WD.
Fair enough! Hi Trish!
Go Small. Live Large! BTW, I would much prefer the cassette toilet. But that’s just me. I am a retired RN, so seeing that stuff doesn’t bother me at all. Hah. But we have yet to empty our black water tank. I’m dreading that. Dealing with an icky drippy hose seems much worse than pouring the stuff out. I’m sure I’ll get used to it. But with our few days of camping in the new T, before lock down - when we were careful but not paranoid about using public toilets in early March - we did most of our business at the campground potties. So my black tank level is still on E. I keep hoping it’ll stay there! (My husband is immunosuppressed, so that’s a job I have assigned to myself)
I love it when the GL vs KL discussions start, lol. For people like you that need an office the GL is an obvious winner but I read a post on the FB owners page where someone said "after a day's driving who wants to try to relax in a driver's chair". Hmmm! So I ask myself, if it's a rainy day or I'm not feeling well, which one would be better to spend the day in? Would love to hear some GL owner's comments...maybe a subject for a future video...GL or KL and why? Can't be always just about the bed and fridge. (or can it, lol?)
5 different seating positions around the dinette table in the 59G Stephen. Love my G
Love the seating area in the back! Super!
Can you use the drop bed partially lowered, or does it have to be all the way down for support? I was thinking of a possibility of having the benches turned into a bed and have the original bed as a "bunk". That way you could sleep 4?
I think the bed has to be lowered all the way for it to be used and properly supported.
I love the door mounted box, but I would love it even more if it were 3x the size and hitch mounted. Every RV has a hitch, but I never see any accessories for them. I would personally carry extra fuel and water. A suitable box on the back like that one seems the best place for those.
Interesting points. Thanks for watching and taking time to comment 7heRebBaron
Great video! I’ve decided to stop renting and since my job can send me all over, I’m going to move into a Class B. Always wanted a travato, but the revel with 4x4 would be good for my channel. I think it could pull my Jeep too.
good thinking, Excited about your channel
VOLTA is the game changer.
VOLTA !! Totally agree with you :). Thx for taking time to comment! Would be an honor to have you a part of our success as a Subscriber, if not already J Dorman
the GL needs a 4 battery option versus the standard three -- they did it in NPFE - which is no more.. so there is an empty slot in the standard GL just waiting for another battery.. 11,800 watt hrs!!! baby ;-) .. come on Volta and Winnebago please the Volta fans......................................
@@gosmall.livelarge I've been subscribed and stalking you on YT and on your site for a while now. If Embassy would come up with a Travato or Revel floorplan rig on a short Sprinter it would be the perfect bvan for me. :-)
Looking at the 2021 Revel, it is a game changer. As to which one looks the toughest, going to go with the Travato, that Deer Catcher is Knarly!
Appreciate that Paul!!
The 2021 Revel does have Lithium, a different table and a better sink and a bunch more changes.
(2) 125-amp-hour Lithium ion batteries w/dedicated second alternator to charge system
Actually, a comparison between your buddy's 2020 and the 2021 version could be helpful since no one ever really compares previous with the newest version...
It was a great video regardless of the volume problems, thanks for doing it and sharing it.
Thanks for hanging in there on the audio Richard. Mother Nature wasn’t my friend that day.
My Revel is ordered!!! Have to wait until January 😢. Can’t wait!! Great video. I seriously considered the 59GL.
Where did he get the custom revel topper?
Wow on getting your Revel in Jan. tough waiting period. We had to wait 6 months too, so I know how you feel. Thx for taking time to comment! Would be an honor to have you a part of our success as a Subscriber, if not already Anthony
@@anthonyputney7626 I'd like to hear the answer to that, too -- who manufactures the bed topper Tab has in his Revel?
Anthony, where did you order yours from? And is that the case for everyone -- waiting 6 months for delivery? Is that a Winnebago back-order issue? I had hoped to order one in November, but your situation might prompt me to move that date sooner.
Cynthia Biggs Lichsinn RV, Forrest City, Iowa. Demand is very high. My local dealer basically said call back in Nov/Dec and nothing else.
You two would make good traveling buddies for fort short trips and we can day campsites. Seems like your personalities complement each other thank you for showing me around a lot.
You are welcome for showing you around. Tab is a great guy!
Great insight into both rigs. Different use cases for full-time vs part-time. I’m leaning towards the Revel but if the Travato had four wheel drive, a lift and a lift bed system it would be a no-brainer.
Agree with you. Thx for taking time to comment! Please consider becoming a Subscriber, if not already. Would be an honor to have you a part of our success Avery
I know this was a previous model year Revel, but I didn't know you could get something like the GLSS for that rear garage! That's one of the things I like seeing on your channel besides people & places -- PRODUCTS! Another P! LOL No I'm not going to get one. Not going to get that European Class B van either. But it sure is fun looking at everything everyone else is getting. Not sure it even qualifies as window shopping. . . Virtual shopping???
Thank you LInda... Places, People, Product!
get rig, Tab! Scot i'm your new subscriber from 30 and a wake up. Great intro video. thank u.
Welcome to GSLL Selisa. Thrilled to have you part of this amazing audience. And is Tab the coolest cat or what?!
I wish I could get my wife to do a van. I like the GL bathroom. I like the KL twin bed. I like the Revel 4wd. I’ve seen custom builders build my epic van but a high price tag. It’s all irrelevant since my wife won’t live in a van for a few years. Looks like a Navion for us. That’s what the compromise is. Wish Volta did a Navion though. Great video Scott 👍🏼
Thx Salty Medic. Navion !!
The Salty Medic I’ve been lusting over the floor plan of the Wonder RTB. At least on the inside. We’re happy with the external dimensions and street space parkability of our new Travato. But still, that garage storage for bicycles in the back, +2 hanging closets under the beds and the larger bathroom and kitchen with pantry are certainly attractive. Wow.
(And a real door, not a heavy slider. A girl can dream...)
Trish Benedict so many choices out there. I wish Winnebago would put a Volta in a Navion though. Well I got 6 years to retire so we will see what happens lol
Scott, my main man good video. I am still in Florida and working 50 hours a week. Planning to fly out to Washington in mid-September to pick up my PW Lexor FL and drive to South Dakota as my new domicile state. See some sights and a few parks and fly back to Florida. Retire in November.
Are you getting excited or what?! Hope to see you and an upcoming GSLL Channel event in your Lexor !
Guys! Real quick - WATCH CHECK. Love the watches in the video...what are they?
Not sure of Tab’s watch. Mine is Breitling. Good catch D Mark2
There are a few things I like about the Mercedes. I like the larger bed. I wish there was a way to use the bed with AND the dinette seats at the same time. And a way to make the rear dinette a bed and sleep 4 back there. In the Travato I like the larger bath, and kitchen dining table setup better. I would prefer the smoother ride in the Travato. I'm not a big fan of diesel fuel. I wish both vehicles were all electric. I like 4wd but doubt I would need it in rough terrain. More for snow and ice. That being said I wouldn't likely use much in the winter. If I were to use it in the winter, I would likely relocate it to a more inviting environment. I would be very pleased with either of those vehicles.
hearing you on the diesel. Thx B H
I still like the Travato!
Travato!
Travato wins , Tho a Revel buit on the 170 wb would be ideal. Is Winnebago reading this ? Hint Hint Wink Wink. p.s.Great vid God bless.
Thanks Thomas! Travato!
2022 for the 170 version
Or a revel built on the AWD Ford Transit platform.
That garage conversion is an absolute game changer. Never saw it before. I’m with you though on the diesel; just don’t want the added expense.
Yeah, that garage living module is SO COOL. Would be an honor to have you a part of our success as a Subscriber, if not already.
Very nice review and rig. However, we are not yet swayed away from the Embassy Traveler. Nothing is beating the North/South sleeping power beds, dry toilet, inside split system a/c, no propane, no generator or solar AND a beefed up lithium system with quick recharge. Keep the great content coming! We are anxiously waiting for the Nashville Embassy get together location in November. Hopefully we can make that get together. ~ J
Embassy RV !! See you in Nashville!
I still love my travato. It’s hard to beat mine for sure.
Jayne talks truth :)
Definitely Travato
LOL... thx Ray
As soon as travelling overseas situation is much better, I hope you get to come down to Australia and do travel around Australia.
It would be SOOO AMAZING to RV in Australia 🇦🇺. Hopefully you are subscriber! Thanks for watching and taking time to comment Clare
@@gosmall.livelarge I am a subscriber. I am enjoying your journey very much.
What is the benefit of adding the Lithium system?
Is it an option at the time of purchase or do you have to get it added later with the Revel?
Lihtium is an option for both rigs. Two different type of OEM, Volta in the Travato and Lithionics in the Revel. Niether can really be added later economically
I lean towards the travato for the size, and gas engine, and lithium Volta system, and the RIP kit. I don’t know if the 4x4 is needed for me more than a nice to have. Good comparo-review.
In addition the 4x4 system will lower mileage/increase maintenance costs over the life of the Revel for every mile driven, regardless of how seldom it is engaged.
Thanks Craig. Appreciate that.
Hey Scott Nice Video and content , would like to see you do the new Winnebago EKKO . Thanks
Thanks! Will do! On my sizable video queue :)
I wish the Travato had a similar layout option (with a bigger bathroom) as the Revel.
Interesting idea. Thx for watching vids, taking time to comment and for subscribing Cyasi
great job discussing important issues. Thank You! We have a Roadtrek Zion (3500 Dodge Promaster chassis) and I would like to have a lift kit installed. Where did you have your’s done and did you notice any differences in the van’s driveability? Thanks again
Thanks Andy for your kind work. Zion in is a nice rig. The lift was completed by Off Highway Vans in Salt Lake City. Tell 'em Scott sent you! Video on the subject ua-cam.com/video/SGeD9nr6PmQ/v-deo.html
Tough choice between the two. Like the Travato layout better but like the 4wd of the Revel. Hope you make it out to western North Carolina and explore the area.
Hi Don. Yes eager to get to the East Coast next year . Thx for taking time to comment! Would be an honor to have you a part of our success as a Subscriber, if not already.
I also like the color of yours better, and the shower, 👍
Awesome! Thank you Mildred. Thx for taking time to comment! Would be an honor to have you a part of our success as a Subscriber, if not already.
Excellent comparison. I have to agree with most of the earlier comments. Seems like the Revel owner is giving up a great deal to get 4-WD. Much higher cost (even higher after he adds a lithium system), ugly bed bump-outs on the outside, and it appears the a/c would only work with the bed lowered. The aftermarket rear dinette seems like a very worthwhile mod. I wonder if he considered the 3" lift kit that is available for the Travato?
A/c works with the bed up, a/c unit vents from the sides. Also bed can stop in any position (it's not just up or down)
@@kbtred51 Thanks for added detail on the bed mechanism. Based on the video @ 16 minute mark, it would have to be lowered at least several inches for the a/c to circulate air. Unfortunately, then you wouldn't have enough headroom to use the rear dinette based on the video @ 3 minute mark. On the plus side, the sliding floor shelf/tray is great mod for any class B with a "garage" floorplan (if it doesn't rattle).
Thanks for the comment and questions Mr. Britt
Hi Scott! The Revel has another table at the jump seat that can be left up full time. FYI....:)
Good to know! Thx for taking time to comment! Would be an honor to have you a part of our success as a Subscriber, if not already Fabio!
Your cat is adorable! 🥰
Great video too.
Thanks Diane! #vanlife LUKE 🐈
Love the mirror on the door! Any info on that?
sorry, no
Appreciate the videos! Would like to see recommendations for B class options for people who are taller than average (6' 4" and taller).
Hey Randall. See the video tour I did of the Regency National Traveler 🧳 . It had 7’4” interior clearance. ua-cam.com/video/CTjdUy94KUo/v-deo.html
Around the 23:08 mark you mention another youtuber that lifted a Ram. Can you let me know who that was. I can’t find anything in the search so I must be hearing it wrong.
30 & A Wakeup
Hi John. Here is the video that 30 And A Wake Up made about his van lift. I will be making the same lift on my van soon. ua-cam.com/video/dLaB9aYx0QY/v-deo.html
I think it would be nice to hide the electronic displays behind a framed, hinged mirror. Great video, thanks from Portugal.
Portugal 🇵🇹 !!!! Wow so cool to do vanlife in your country.
I like the Revel but needed a bigger fridge.
truth
Great video Scott, why would he put a Lithium system on his rig? Doesn't the Revel have a factory installed Lithium system already ??
His Revel was not equipped with lithium and was going with an after market solution. Newest Revels have Lithionics as an option I believe.
I’d want the Revel with the Travato layout, or the Travato on a Transit AWD chassis.😀
That would be cool Frase! Maybe a "custom" builder would work for you needs?
He can buy additional cushions to change the back garage seating into daybed
Daybed!! Thx for taking time to comment! Would be an honor to have you a part of our success as a Subscriber, if not already XRP.
Go Small. Live Large!
I am a long time subscriber. Right around when you bought your Lilly.
I'd prefer a Revel but wish they'd offer it on another chassis... The option loaded Sprinter adds so much $$$ to the price. The Revel is a true 4 season coach... which is nice!
yes!
They both look great. Question, the Revel's fridge is half the size of the travato. Doesn't that limit the amount of time out and about? I could see it working for one person but probably not 2.
I think you are one to something. thx for commenting and subscribing
Beautiful van
thx Mick
Mercedes looks pretty darn tuff.
Right !?
Would love it if the Travato had an option for a cassette toilet, larger gray tank and larger water tank. The travato would be my choice. Do like the Revel. What’s the difference in the Revel and the Boldt?
Good ideas on Travato improvements. Not a fan of cassette toilet for me. Revel and Boldt are really two very different rigs IMO. Revel is adventure rig. Boldt is a pleasure boat for tailgating or similar. Just my option though. Thx for watching!
Hey Scott, I wish Winnebago would do a hybrid between the Travato and Revel. I just, for me, don't want that Sprinter chassis, too expensive to maintain the Mercedes Benz, not knowing if there will be some place close to have work done when out on the road and I don't like diesel. I wish the Travato came in a 4WD, I know you can get conversions. I just wish it would come from Winnebago with those option. They could name it the Trevelo..... lol
TREVELO!! love it :)
Scott, great video - as we are looking at selling the Roadtrek Zion for a 4x4 (and been looking at the Revel)... Seriously leaning towards the Boldt 4x4. Anyone on here have a Boldt care to give their opinion? Thanks !
Thx for watching and taking time to comment Lost!
Great tour and very nice looking. Still love the GL layout better though. The Revel looks a little smaller and I'm afraid I don't really like those flairs on the side, but do see why they like it. Don't mind the cassette, but they need to be dumped so often. Nice 4x4 option
Isn't the Revel around $170 grand? It seems a lot of money to spend on a new vehicle, then another three grand on the system in the back and then another ten grand for lithium. You're looking at $180 grand or more... If you're spending all that money, why not spend just a little more and get a fully custom van exactly the way you want it?
Be seeing you!
Good points RofL. I think the actual price on the Revel, like the Travato, is considerably less than MSRP.