Spare The Rod? Spoil the Crystal Set - Part 1

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  • Опубліковано 4 тра 2019
  • Ferrite and Ferrite Rod Antennas and their uses for tuned Amplifier Active Antennas and Front ends and for Crystal Set construction projects.
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  • @jozefbubez6116
    @jozefbubez6116 2 місяці тому

    At the age of nearly 74 I need to have another look at ferrite rods. Back in the 60s when I was new to radio experimentation, a long wire out of doors and a ground to the house plumbing seemed a 'must'. Some years back, using a kit, I was amazed at the reception from a 2-transistor circuit using a ferrite rod but never followed up the idea. If these things are that good, it will save trying to climb trees etc which in my more mature condition might not be a good idea! Thanks for the inspiration and interesting presentation. Cheers!

  • @Karl63601
    @Karl63601 5 років тому +7

    Another terrific tutorial. Even this old dog is learning some new tricks. Thanks so much.

  • @mktwatcher
    @mktwatcher 5 років тому +2

    Very glad you continued your X-tal Set experiments using the ferrite core

  • @mikesmuseum
    @mikesmuseum 5 років тому +4

    I really find this interesting! Put a huge AM loop antenna next to your ferrite rod and you will be amazed what comes in! Perhaps you can do more experimenting with rods, loops, and tuners. Keep up the great work!!!

  • @vjpanagg2005
    @vjpanagg2005 4 роки тому +3

    Thanks for your informative videos. Your wild angry image at the beginning this one never fails to make me laugh, likely because of its contrast to your otherwise level headed demeanor. It took me by surprise. Very funny stuff!

  • @barrymontgomery9860
    @barrymontgomery9860 5 років тому +5

    Love everything you do!!!

  • @acestudioscouk-Ace-G0ACE
    @acestudioscouk-Ace-G0ACE 3 роки тому +2

    I'd often seen them, now I know something about them. Thanks.

  • @sonofeloah
    @sonofeloah 5 років тому +4

    I had done some experimenting with ferrite coils with diode set back in the 60s. Did not think to use them as an antenna.
    Looking forward to part 2.

    • @MIKROWAVE1
      @MIKROWAVE1  3 роки тому +3

      Well with enough gain, you get a transistor radio for your pocket!

  • @rajesh00ify
    @rajesh00ify 5 років тому

    Loved it. Thanks for sharing.

  • @Cristian-gu1st
    @Cristian-gu1st 3 роки тому +4

    Don't stop making these tutorials

  • @wadepatton2433
    @wadepatton2433 5 років тому +2

    In the last couple of years I've learned a little bit about types 43, 52, and 61 circular ferrite cores for making transformers for 1/2 wavelength transmitting antennas. The beauty of such "EFHW" is that it works all harmonics and the main ones will require little to no tuning/matching once the fundamental frequency is set. But of course now I do believe I'd like to build a ferrite rod antenna for 630m, in case activity there picks up (I won't build the TX antenna and other necessaries until I can actually hear some activity). Thanks for these instructional videos on them. 73

    • @BruceNitroxpro
      @BruceNitroxpro 3 роки тому +1

      Wade Patton , It will be instructive to have the testing capacity to determine number of turns for these coils. de KQ2E

    • @MIKROWAVE1
      @MIKROWAVE1  10 місяців тому +1

      Come late Fall there is plenty of 630m activity at night between 7 and 11PM EST. CW and digital.

  • @glenngoodale1709
    @glenngoodale1709 5 років тому

    NICE brother.. Thanks for sharing.. God Bless

  • @takane151
    @takane151 4 роки тому

    I grew up listening to Howie Carr. My mom loved listening to him!

    • @MIKROWAVE1
      @MIKROWAVE1  3 роки тому

      Lots of flavor on old time AM talk radio.

  • @rvargaspatron
    @rvargaspatron 2 роки тому

    Excellent discussion on ferrite and powered iron rods for AM BCB! Thank you very much for all the information!

  • @Kangsteri
    @Kangsteri Рік тому

    Explained a lot. Thanks!

  • @tonychristoph1063
    @tonychristoph1063 5 років тому

    thank you very much .. very interesting

  • @migalito1955
    @migalito1955 4 місяці тому

    I am planning on building SolderSmokes Direct Conversion Receiver that Bill, Pete, & others came up with for a high school project. But, I was given a kid's crystal set recently and I aim to build it for indoor antenna use & don't think it includes in its schematic a resistor or capacitor across where the headphones connect, so I grabbed as a screen shot your schematic that included the coil wound on a ferrite rod. Boy, I had trouble getting my phone to grab the screenshot, but did manage.
    I also partially watched your video last night where you augment the crystal set with a tuned circuit using a transistor which I also want to give a go.
    Likely, I will try this additional scheme added to the crystal set prior to starting the direct conversion receiver. Why, one might ask. Well by education I am a theorectical math guy thus the deeper an understanding the better & I suspect doing both gives one a deeper understanding.

  • @avcimustafa7052
    @avcimustafa7052 Рік тому +1

    Very interesting, thanks.

    • @MIKROWAVE1
      @MIKROWAVE1  Рік тому

      Glad you enjoyed it. The ferrite rod stuff has long been a field of interest to low frequency experimenters.

  • @southernexposure123
    @southernexposure123 10 місяців тому

    A lot of years ago I put a 60 foor long wire on my high dollar stereo. I tuned it to AM stations and alligator clipped a ham radio band VFO to the AM radio antenna. I had a 100 watt short wave listening radio by tuning the variable capacitor on the VFO..

    • @MIKROWAVE1
      @MIKROWAVE1  10 місяців тому

      Well there you go - dual conversion the external way!

    • @southernexposure123
      @southernexposure123 10 місяців тому

      @@MIKROWAVE1 lol I didn't know that had a decent name.

  • @chadcastagana9181
    @chadcastagana9181 4 роки тому +1

    5:05 Permeability is the property of ferromagnetic material's ability to concentrate magnetic lines of flux. The higher the "Al" the higher the inductance per unit of number of turns over length

  • @MrBigShotFancyPants
    @MrBigShotFancyPants Рік тому

    It seems we harvested a D-cell battery center rod in boy scouts in 1963 and slid it in/out of a winding around a correct sized cardboard tube, for tuning.. ? Short wire antenna out side my bedroom window.

  • @010silviu
    @010silviu 5 років тому +1

    Nice ! Give a tray to a AM demodulation made with on transistor (Ge) without biasing and 100k in collector ... sorry I cant post or attach a schematic but I think you know very well. All the best regards to you ! 73 !

  • @channelsixtysix066
    @channelsixtysix066 2 роки тому

    Your chanel has just appeared on my UA-cam feed. I subscribed almost immediately. 👍 I'm an inactive full-call VK5xx (South Australia).

    • @MIKROWAVE1
      @MIKROWAVE1  2 роки тому +1

      Careful - don't binge. OK Binge - it's fine it's Covid - approved in Victoria.

  • @wadepatton2433
    @wadepatton2433 5 років тому

    How about an Rx antenna for 630 and 2200 meter bands? Does one rod type work better down lower than the others--seems all the specs talk about highest frequencies, rather than the lowest ones. 136kHz and 472kHz are in the new ham lowest bands. Maybe use a magnetic loop for TX.

  • @vivek-1318
    @vivek-1318 Рік тому

    Awesome

  • @fredriko.zachrisson9711
    @fredriko.zachrisson9711 5 років тому +1

    I am new at this stuff, and i have really benefitted from your video series, but i have some problem with my signal amplifier, and impedance matching.
    I didnt see any, but have you made a video where you go through some of that?

    • @MIKROWAVE1
      @MIKROWAVE1  3 роки тому

      It is very popular to stay with 50 Ohms when you design RF circuits. This is by convention more than reality of what the world or real devices really look like, impedance wise. With conventional devices used in conventional grounded cathode, emitter or source, the impedance the device works best with varies from a few hundred ohms to a few thousand ohms. So we almost always have to do impedance matching. So with a tuned circuit which has a very high impedance, it may work very well into an FET or Tube grid. But with a bipolar transistor or a diode detector, we almost always have to transform down. Thus we tap the coil (ferrite or air wound) or use an RF transformer in the form of another winding with perhaps 1/4 to 1/10th the number of turns.

  • @truthpopup
    @truthpopup Рік тому

    How about using a MOSFET source follower as an impedance-matching device between the LC tuned circuit and the detector? A MOSFET has an extremely high input impedance, so it can be connected across the entire LC circuit without loading it, and the full voltage across the LC circuit will be available across the source resistor, to drive the detector.

  • @MichaelOfRohan
    @MichaelOfRohan Рік тому

    "America, we've got a country to save!"
    Me in the middle of the store:
    SO LETS GETTER TEED OOOOOFFFF

  • @gameyord7182
    @gameyord7182 2 роки тому

    I FINALLY FOUND THIS VIDEO SHIIIIIIIIIIIIIT.
    Oh and can i use only one condenser to tune both coils?

  • @KB4QAA
    @KB4QAA 5 років тому

    Super!

  • @andrewandrosow4797
    @andrewandrosow4797 11 місяців тому

    Hello! Good video! It`s very important to have an air gap between winds: for example when a diameter of wire is 0.5mm - the step can be 1mm or more. The ideal case - a basket winding. I made in past a coil from ethernet cable (one wire from twisted pair). Outer diameter was 80mm, length was roughly 250mm. The capacitor wasn`t exists. I measured wideband of this open LC circuit - and calculated a Quality factor. It was 900!. THe resonance frequency was 3100KHz.

    • @MIKROWAVE1
      @MIKROWAVE1  10 місяців тому

      Woo! At that point we start to talk Vernier's!

  • @BobbyOfEarth
    @BobbyOfEarth 4 роки тому

    After I finished stripping all 175 strands of the Litz wire, 😊 I wrapped a piece of double sided sticky tape around the ferrite rod to allow the Litz wire to adhere and remain tight.

    • @MIKROWAVE1
      @MIKROWAVE1  3 роки тому

      Ha - yes delicate work! Sticky tape - clever approach your highness.

  • @nor4277
    @nor4277 5 років тому

    After you wrap would,you consider dipping the,ferrite antenna in melted wax?

  • @vyaceslavexrx9yu317
    @vyaceslavexrx9yu317 3 роки тому +1

    Nice job. Like from Russia, 73

  • @user-qc6is4cv1z
    @user-qc6is4cv1z 6 місяців тому

    ok very nice

  • @joselu90
    @joselu90 5 років тому

    Nice radio

  • @shyammohabir8283
    @shyammohabir8283 3 роки тому

    You were listening to the famous (Paper Boy) Howie Carr 680AM WRKO in Boston

  • @DubiousEngineering
    @DubiousEngineering 3 роки тому

    Very tempted to make an antenna tuning inductor like yours... it may help my AM radio.... thanks!

    • @MIKROWAVE1
      @MIKROWAVE1  3 роки тому

      A loading coil will help any simple radio which uses a wire antenna that is not really resonant in the band.

  • @bernardlash4169
    @bernardlash4169 8 місяців тому +1

    Nice

    • @MIKROWAVE1
      @MIKROWAVE1  8 місяців тому

      Thanks for watching the ferrite rod videos. They make kitchen table radios work!

  • @vintageadventureswithrobert
    @vintageadventureswithrobert 3 роки тому

    I have some interesting data for you is that you can find about how to wind honeycomb coils and diamond weave coils and basket weave coils by looking in the 1920's magazine Popular radio and Radio news and maybe Shortwave craft. Also I do not know if the website is still around but there is a website called Playthings of the past. You might want to check it out sometime.

    • @MIKROWAVE1
      @MIKROWAVE1  3 роки тому

      That sounds like a real art technique you have resurrected! Another lost gem -found.

  • @nor4277
    @nor4277 5 років тому

    I found ferrite bar blanks are pretty cheap on ebay ,I think I paid about a dollar for mine its A little fatter then the one the radio came with .

  • @hassanrasool3977
    @hassanrasool3977 4 роки тому

    Cool

  • @zeber127
    @zeber127 3 роки тому

    Прекрасный результат, на простой приемник слышно станции из Америки

    • @MIKROWAVE1
      @MIKROWAVE1  3 роки тому +1

      Сборка простых радиоприемников - хорошее зимнее хобби.

  • @johnwest7993
    @johnwest7993 Рік тому

    I note that for the clarity of other viewers you call the magnetic field both the 'H' field and the 'B' field, and that they are both the same thing.

    • @MIKROWAVE1
      @MIKROWAVE1  Рік тому

      I will say that they are proportional to each other but not exactly the same.

  • @luisadrianomeusparabens6863
    @luisadrianomeusparabens6863 4 роки тому

    Muito top

  • @Karl63601
    @Karl63601 5 років тому +3

    A quick question: If you do snap a ferrite rod (clean break) can it be repaired with epoxy or super glue, and be almost "as good as new"?

    • @MIKROWAVE1
      @MIKROWAVE1  5 років тому +2

      Yes. In part 2 I will show how to do this. Tape over the repaired break with heavy packing tape or Kapton for axial strength.

    • @Karl63601
      @Karl63601 5 років тому +2

      Thanks, I'll be looking forward to part two.

    • @jaroslavdolezal7941
      @jaroslavdolezal7941 5 років тому +1

      No

  • @psnpacific
    @psnpacific 3 роки тому

    👍

  • @roberthorseman7432
    @roberthorseman7432 3 роки тому

    Is that a roberts radio at 23;02.

  • @Michellandau
    @Michellandau 2 роки тому

    I just started building my first crystal radio. I got the kit from United nuclear. This video is interesting but too advanced for me. Is there another video that explains these concepts for the absolute beginner? I don't have room in my apartment for a 30-foot antenna. Will these rod antennas work with any crystal radio set? What's the simplest type of antenna I can build if I don't have room for the 30-foot wire?

    • @MIKROWAVE1
      @MIKROWAVE1  2 роки тому +1

      OK I get it Michael. Find or make a frame out of a couple of 1 X 6 6 ft Center Notched planks and make a big X that sits upright on the floor. Now wind 6 turns of #14 wire around it spaced 1/2 inch between turns and connect a 365 pF Variable Capacitor to tune it. Now wind a single turn as the secondary to feed the diode and bypass cap and headphones. Experiment wit the position and size of the secondary loop. This beast will hear stations.

    • @Michellandau
      @Michellandau 2 роки тому

      @@MIKROWAVE1 Thank you for your reply, but I'm so new to this hobby that it's difficult for me to visualize what you are talking about. Is there a book for beginners that you could recommend for me? This is my very first crystal radio set, and I've never built an antenna before, so it's difficult for me to understand how it all fits together.

  • @fakharvoice9215
    @fakharvoice9215 3 роки тому

    Love 4rm P A K I S T A N >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>

  • @Jomatsch
    @Jomatsch 2 роки тому

    You do a very good job of instructing others. Did I hear a cat in the background?

    • @MIKROWAVE1
      @MIKROWAVE1  2 роки тому

      Yes that is my elderly cat Bella the Needy!

    • @Jomatsch
      @Jomatsch 2 роки тому

      @@MIKROWAVE1 My cat George wasn't very helpful when I had 50 ft. of wire laid on the floor. Nor, was he helpful when he laid across my forearm when I was trying to solder. His 20# could immobilize my arm.

  • @markhodgson2348
    @markhodgson2348 7 місяців тому

    Project moses has been forgotten

  • @garygullikson6349
    @garygullikson6349 Рік тому

    Does anybody make a modern "Ferry Loopstick" nowadays?

  • @channelsixtysix066
    @channelsixtysix066 2 роки тому

    Litz-wire and tinsel wire, are brilliant at what they do, but the stuff of nightmares to work with.

    • @MIKROWAVE1
      @MIKROWAVE1  2 роки тому +1

      Lots of tricks and myths about asprin, solder pots and the like!

  • @zachreyhelmberger894
    @zachreyhelmberger894 2 роки тому

    Please post a link to the eBay ferrites. I am seeing rods that are going for $20 or more a piece!?

    • @MIKROWAVE1
      @MIKROWAVE1  2 роки тому

      And higher. Even the 2 dollar 365 pF Variable capacitors are going for over 25 dollars. The prices will vary depending on demand, the material, origin, and length. They can easily be glued with superglue to make longer rods if you wrap them with clear packing tape before winding. Yes a good quality long Type 61 Rod is going to be expensive from a reseller. And all EBay sellers are basically resellers. I like these little guys to get started. www.ebay.com/itm/274726941594?hash=item3ff700739a:g:MJUAAOSwL6la3A8h

  • @uncleruckus4060
    @uncleruckus4060 3 роки тому

    Hello I have question
    I connect my antenna directly to variable capacitor which then goes to diode versus using antenna loop to couple to inductor
    I noticed on the antenna direct the capacitance increases by 30%
    I.e. stations on 600 khz and should be at end of dial are now on middle of dial
    Any comments please

    • @MIKROWAVE1
      @MIKROWAVE1  3 роки тому

      The antenna has significant capacitance to ground and this is on the order of 100 pF. So in effect it is lowering the tuning range of the radio. It is just like you were adding a capacitor across the tuning variable capacitor. The tuning range will decrease as will the selectivity and that is why this is discouraged. It is better to add a real capacitor or add turns to lower tuning range!

    • @uncleruckus4060
      @uncleruckus4060 3 роки тому

      @@MIKROWAVE1 thanks sir reply
      Well I did math coil 283 uH and capacitor 40 to 320 pf so tuning should be 530 khz to 1490 khz and when I connected the aerial to capacitor leg which goes to diode ....600 khz station was in middle of my dial 0 to 100. The standard basic design shows attaching aerial to cap/coil and when I attached aerial/ground to a 10 turn loop and mutually induct thru the coil 600khz was 90 on dial right about where it should be. I've read a lot in past few weeks re crystal radios and never have I've seen someone mention that effect other than damping . I think it worth mentioning since many people start with the basic design I.e. no tuner or loose coupling or mutual inductance or whatever you wish to call it and connect aerial to coil/cap

    • @MIKROWAVE1
      @MIKROWAVE1  3 роки тому +1

      @@uncleruckus4060 There are so many variable factors involved in even the simplest tuned circuit, when actually connected to antenna and load. Then bring in form material and diameter, proximity effects, diameter and wire spacing and size, and it gets silly to attempt to model or predict exact tuning with any accuracy. So we get in the ballpark and adjust!

    • @uncleruckus4060
      @uncleruckus4060 3 роки тому

      @@MIKROWAVE1
      That's why I'll try to do
      I got a recommendation from UA-cam a few weeks ago for crystal radio video
      And I've been intrigued ever since
      When I was a kid it was an oatmeal box and some wire
      Some of these papers I've read online look like they were written for electrical engineers
      Volkswagen vs Lamborghini 😆
      Thanks reply

  • @anotherdave5107
    @anotherdave5107 5 років тому

    do you create these illustrations or they from a book?

    • @MIKROWAVE1
      @MIKROWAVE1  5 років тому

      I do schematics and some drawings in an illustration program called Deneba Canvas. Some generic come from other sites.

  • @jojofixer
    @jojofixer 3 роки тому

    Will a magnet change the Q especially on type -61?

    • @MIKROWAVE1
      @MIKROWAVE1  3 роки тому

      I have not tried this, but I am sure that there would be some effect.

    • @jojofixer
      @jojofixer 3 роки тому

      @@MIKROWAVE1 Permanently I've hear?

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    @user-dh1kq3eh8q 4 роки тому +1

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  • @jilubhai5255
    @jilubhai5255 3 роки тому

    Hello sir I'm Mohammed from India I need philips prestige 556 transistor radio service manual pls help me sir tq

  • @nor4277
    @nor4277 5 років тому

    Have you ever replaced a ferrite antenna in a tube radio I going to have to ,the original one shattered ,I bought a new ferrite rod what cheap ,and a roll of magnetic wire,If anyone has done this and has any input I would be greatly appreciate it

    • @MIKROWAVE1
      @MIKROWAVE1  5 років тому +1

      Fortunately the easy part is done. The LO coil is designed to track 455 kHz lower than the antenna tuning. So most rods are a simple single winding. A more clever design would have a tapped coil or multiple windings. I hope you have a picture or a manual to see the wind type and position. Otherwise just wind say 60 turns of ordinary enameled wire on and give it a try. If too few turns adding capacitance will bring noise up. Once you find the sweet spot where tracking is good with the trimmers, remove the wire and replace it with the same length of litz wire and secure.

    • @nor4277
      @nor4277 5 років тому

      @@MIKROWAVE1 thank you for your help ,and what is Litz wire., I am going to try the 60 turns of magnetic wire,first.thanks

    • @MIKROWAVE1
      @MIKROWAVE1  5 років тому +1

      @@nor4277 Ron, Litz wire is a special lay up of many smaller diameter insulated wires inside one jacket and wrapped with a synthetic cloth. It fights the skin effect and makes the Q higher in the coil. Find a plastic or cardboard tube a bit larger than the rod and do all winding experimentation on it. Slip it onto the rod when you want to test. Faster and less chance breaking the rod!

    • @nor4277
      @nor4277 5 років тому

      @@MIKROWAVE1 thanks for the info .it's helpful

    • @nor4277
      @nor4277 5 років тому

      @@MIKROWAVE1 do you no what number Lutz wire you use ,I looked it up on ebay ,so many types

  • @astongoldsmith2396
    @astongoldsmith2396 3 роки тому

    All your videos are great BUT what you can listen in US we here in Europe cannot .

    • @MIKROWAVE1
      @MIKROWAVE1  3 роки тому

      A lot of the classic shortwave and AM are going away all over the world as we get more and more digital radio.

  • @markhodgson2348
    @markhodgson2348 7 місяців тому

    Humanity is so much more........but you still don't use the crystal radio array

  • @erin19030
    @erin19030 5 років тому

    Parts and materials are so hard to find in todays loss of the brick and mortar stores are gone.

    • @sonofeloah
      @sonofeloah 5 років тому

      Go online to ebay and amazon. Plenty of parts there and cheap too.

    • @chadcastagana9181
      @chadcastagana9181 4 роки тому

      You mean hardware stores?

  • @radioguy19510
    @radioguy19510 5 років тому +4

    Please don't use the term "tuning the antenna" what you are doing is matching the radio to the lead in of the antenna... You "tune" the antenna when you cut it to the frequency that you are going to use it for.

    • @MIKROWAVE1
      @MIKROWAVE1  5 років тому +2

      Technically you are absolutely correct. We do use a lot of technically incorrect words in radio. For instance Antenna Tuners used to be called Matchboxes or Matchits.

    • @radioguy19510
      @radioguy19510 5 років тому +1

      @@MIKROWAVE1 I fair enough. I love your videos so when I watch from now on and you reference "tuning" an antenna I will try not to pull my hair out.

  • @DK-sg3oe
    @DK-sg3oe Рік тому

    Sir can I have ur no xd u teach my son

  • @pufango4059
    @pufango4059 2 роки тому

    What is the point of this video ! Ferrite rods have been used in crystal for ever .

    • @MIKROWAVE1
      @MIKROWAVE1  2 роки тому +1

      Entertainment and maybe some fun building - and who knows? Somebody might learn something.

  • @weedeater64
    @weedeater64 11 місяців тому

    Where do get one of those big ferrite rods from?

    • @MIKROWAVE1
      @MIKROWAVE1  10 місяців тому

      Oh they are out there. And you can superglue 2 or 3 together and tightly wrap them. But you will pay. www.ebay.com/itm/160888243409