Koreans react to OLI LONDON being Korean/Jimin
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- Опубліковано 20 лип 2021
- OLI LONDON claims that he is non-binary Korean and BTS JIMIN
@jyannalee and @DKDKTV try to understand Oli London
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Do you not feel bad for the real Jimin? & real Korean people how far is to far do we let anything go? INSANE & when we say INSANELY they call US BULLYS & stupid my opinion this is to far!!!
A lot of people are saying respect his pronouns, but maybe watch this first and reconsider (a leaked audio recording of him admittingly saying that he's just doing everything for clout) ua-cam.com/video/MO2wN-FtvEk/v-deo.html I would say those who want the pronouns to be actually respected should stand up against him.
@@DKDKTV sure let say they are mostly likely saying their nonbinary for more clout but still it is they/them and YOU SHOULD RESPECT THAT!
Also Anna really just say gays and lesbians identifying with a different gender 🙄. You mean trans people right? Like if can't even know that stop covering your transphobia with "Oli is doing it for clout"
@@elipren respect is earned and I do not have to respect Oli...he hasn't earned my respect.
Oli London is from a rich family
You can't identify as another person... that's called identity theft 🤦🏼♀️
Millions of families suffer every year
Lmao!!!! Yes!
right thats a felony or sumthin
Oli can definitely be sued for stealing someones identity. Like Summer Rose said tons of people suffer from this. My mom had that done a few times to her. It is stressful and depressing when it happens.
Yup
If he wants to be korean, when is he signing up for his military duty?
I hope he gets to sign up from north Korea 🤣😂
But well he is not a man so he doesn't have to do it 🤣😉
@@NOTmyProblem... He's Jimin, he can do it instead of the real Jimin
@Anemone how can anyone not like Jimin? Saying you don't really like Jimin is way worse than my sarcasm.
@Anemone it's ok to not like someone, it's not like you're hating but yes oli London is embarrassing
“how far can this dude go- I mean how far can they/them jimin go” took me OUT LMFAO
Sorry You missed Korean in the part 'they/them Korean Jimin'😅😅😅
It's so disturbing to be referred as an actual person's name...
Nah for real I damn near choked on my gimbap 😭😭😭😭😭
@@vindric8330 RIIIIIIIGGHHHTT! And I dont think anybody is really grasping that he crossed a big line. By people calling them "Jimin" and they themselves identifying as "Jimin" they are taking away THE REAL Jimin's humanity and making him an object that they can just use however they see fit until they choose not to anymore. It's disrespectful and a new form of harrassment and an abuse of their white privilege in a multitude of ways. Like I'd need to have a 3 hour sit-down press conference to fully express all the ways that what they do and say is wrong and dehumanizing on so many levels
Oli: You're all lgbtq phobic!
no... you're giving off pretty strong "If I ever saw real Jimin I'd kill him and try to assume his identity" vibes, we're not phobic, we're creeped out.
PERFECTLY WORDED!!!!!!
If you watch a few interviews this fake Jimin is 100% trying to set up a meet with the real, trying to use the interviewer. As another comment put it, seems like some fetish that got out of hand. I can imagine Oli being only sexually excited by jimin and now himself 😬
Themself*
If he came out as a woman, then that would be him as a woman. But he's coming out AS a specific human, not himself in his true form. Jimin is not a race, he is not a gender, he is himself, an unique individual. What this disturbed person is doing is trying to assimilate another person's identity, not gaining his own real identity. He's not becoming his true self, he's trying to steal someone else's persona.
I AM Korean, and I will step in and fully defend ANYONE'S right to be Korean if that is how they identify. But that means it is on their shoulders to actually assimilate Korean culture, or at least attempt to take in as much culture as they can. But he has not done ANY of that, but rather, taken what little he's seen on TV and online, and assumed a fetishist persona, not a real Korean persona, and is now trying to pass that off as reality and the entirety of that culture. It would be the same as if someone tried to take an anime character, did plastic surgery to look like that character, learned a few poorly pronounced words and phrases, and then tried to pass themselves off as Japanese, but more than that, THAT particular anime character. But this is worse, because Jimin IS a real person, he DOES exist, and he is his own person, and shouldn't have to worry about someone trying to steal his identity and the possibilities of them doing things that could cause HIM and his career troubles in the future.
That is where the disconnect lies. He's not becoming his TRUE self, he's fetishizing the culture, he's picking out his favorite stereotypical bits of the culture, and then trying to represent himself AS the culture, embodying that culture, and as a shining beacon and example FOR THAT CULTURE. If ALL he was doing was coming out non-binary and identifying with the Korean culture, most people wouldn't have a problem. Possibly consider him in need of psychological help, but people would generally not bat an eye or give it much attention. But ATTENTION is clearly what he craves, since he can't leave it at that. He has to push until he hits all the buzzwords and triggers, so he gets the maximum amount of exposure and attention he can get. Even when it garners all the negative attention, because then, he can play the victim card and claim to be bullied. Bullying is when people are tormenting you simply for being you. Bullying is NOT when people are disagreeing with you, and trying to say that what you are choosing to do is offensive. The ones being bullied are the ones being offended, but are told to shut up and get a sense of humor. And this is something REAL Koreans, real Asians, have experienced all day, every day, in any nation outside of their original home nations. If he wants to identify as Korean, then he should be the first to realize that, and try to be as sensitive to offensive shit as he can be, not just blindly bulldozing his own way, and then telling people to shut up and accept it.
perfectly put
Very well said 👏🏾👏🏾👏🏾
Say it louder for the people in the back 👏
Ye!
Thank you this is worded great !
Oli London needs to spend all that money on psychiatric help! Being Korean is more than just a stereotypical look and it’s quite insulting for anyone especially a foreigner to reduce it to that 🤨🧐
Exactly
He's insulting himself first...... He don't want to be him or he think he has no worth, he just made Jimin his ideol person and want to be like Jimin. Either, he need phycatric help or he's too smart just doing this for popularity. He basically do everything to get public attention.
With you 110%!
Completely agree with you!!
Yes if he wants to be Korean he needs to immigrate! It’s a nationality not a costume and no amount of yellow face will change that. Him comparing his dehumanization of Korean people and jimin specifically to identifying as a dog or a unicorn is another level of fucked up.
Ollie took “Be who you want to be” too literally 😭
As a non-binary person, I was inclined to believe Oli London when they came out as nb. But the more I hear about the they/them/korean/jimin stuff, and how warped Oli's sense of identity is, the more I feel disgusted. It feels like Oli's making fun of my community, and adopting a struggle (that I and many other nb people have experienced) in a way that is disrespectful. Oli is intertwining coming out as non-binary with something disturbing, so that when people hear about it, they are inclined to dismiss it as "crazy" and "weird" and "gross". It feels invalidating, the way that Oli is taking something so real and personal to me and many others and warping/twisting it into some spectacle.
the video just doesn't seem genuine tbh
exactly
Exactly, and I am so sorry that the people who identify as non-binary have to endure such disrespect and mockery. As a cisgender woman I can't even begin to understand how having my gender identity being invalidated would feel, but I do know that the bullshit they pull is fucked up.
‘Fellow non-binary here, I agree with that. This hits home 100%! 🏳️🌈💯
Yeah I agree with you because I'm transgender too, and I feel Oli's making a mockery of the trans and nonbinary community. You can't identify as another person and Oli has to understand that.
Hybe/Bighit needs to sue this person... and also file for a restraining order to keep this person at least 7,000miles away from Jimin
Update: the git has filed for a divorce with Cardboard Jimin because Cardboard Jimin doesn't "love" him/them back... And has also decided to move on with a new target/obsession
Yes they do !!!!!
It will mean they gave attention to him. I am sure they are silently working on keeping him away
lmao but yes.
Or they can just send him to Mars lol..
Yes i agree, sue him will give him a spotlight he desperately want, not to mention many more korean people will know about him if korean news broke out about hybe sue him specifically. I really hope hybe find solution to get rid of him quietly
This guy is so manipulative. He keeps referring to his hate comments as relating to him being non-binary or coming out in any way. That's manipulative because no, people hate him and give him hate because of the Jimin/Korean part. Most people wouldn't care or have an opinion if he just came out as non-binary. It's LITERALLY coming out as "korean jimin" that's the issue, but he never addresses this. He only uses key words like activism and freedom over his non-binary identity. His words in the first video aren't wrong, but he literally takes them out of context and lying about exactly what the issue is.
Exactly he use Jimin and hate as clout in surprise tiktok has not banned him
That was exactly what I was thinking the whole time while watching his videos. I just dislike this guy so much, I swear. He needs therapy ASAP!
We should still use they/them pronouns when referring to them! I agree they are very Manipulative wi5 their tactics, but we still have to use correct pronouns, just not the jimin/Korean.
@@ghostbotmellow706 But here's my concern... the issue with Oli is that they say that they're Korean. THAT'S what upsets people. But they make it sound like them being non-binary that is the issue. which is CLEARLY NOT.
From what I can see and hear. HE is using the non-binary gender as a SHEILD for himself. (And I feel that it's a VERY big disrespect to ACTUAL non-Binary people)
Cause people, who only see these posts on the surface, would empathize with a person who is being attacked for their gender. WAY more than the REAL issue, which is a British person saying he's Korean. Or even practically saying he is someone else who actually exists, aka Jimin.
He wants to be known as Jimin- Not the name... the PERSON. And THAT is What's concerning about Oli.
They are very delusional and are like the most extreme case of cultural appropriation. If they seriously and truly believed this than are they learning about Korea like about its history? No they don’t even kno the language with their level being elementary level at best and never improving. Their energy is all focused at basically just K-pop like the style and such, and so is doing it like it’s just another fashion trend which is like by definition cultural appropriation. They try and hide from the criticism using non binary and such as a shield but that has nothing to do with it. They need to spend that money on some serious therapy instead of plastic surgery.
Olli isn't the only one at fault here anymore. It's everyone that supports him in any way and gives him the platform to keep doing this that are part of the issue. SO his subscribers/followers and anyone trying to troll a troll. He's living off of this. Always wondered where the hell he gets his money from for his surgeries if not social media in some way
Maybe he also has a stable job and saves every penny he earns and spend it lavishly on his surgery.
@@silent2163 he buys designer clothes every other weekend. Idk if he's even saving at all, this mans just making bank for an undisclosed reason.
OMG I NEEDED THIS COLLAB
Identity theft is a crime and publically stating that you are now identifying yourself as a specific individual is not flattery, it's an attempt at stealing someone else's identity. It's wrong.
Yup
Oh it is bad!! I hope HYBE sues him. Tons of families have had suffered due to identity theft.
They should ban him from titok mass report his jimin vidéo hère will get banned
"This is going to help them find some strength-" Wow, Oli came out as Korean, but couldn't leave the white savior complex behind.
Great point.
WOW 🤭 that’s a point I didn’t even consider!
True, I've never thought of that but you're right
👏 👏 👏
damn 😲
HYBE needs to make a worldwide lawsuit against “They”
Been waiting for this one lol!
There’s a difference between nationality and ethnicity - If you have been living somewhere for an extended period of time, speak the language, work/have moved through the education system and choose to get an official passport and change your nationality, that’s one thing. You can immigrate if that’s something you want to do. BUT YOU WILL NEVER BE ABLE TO ETHNICALLY CHANGE WHO YOU ARE.
You can be Canadian and Korean but you’re not ethnically native Canadian. so…Oli London is the worst troll, honestly.
oh my god you said everything my mind was not being able to convey in actual words
Exactly!!
Unfortunately people actually think that “trans-racial” is a thing
I was about to say I would get it if he moved to Korea, learnt the language, etc to get korean nationality but he's saying he's ethnically korean which can't be possible in his case. This is all too weird.
@@koyasmother6432 I agree
Seriously not only identifying as a Korean is wierd , when you are clearly white but it's also offensive to all the Asian people who are bullied and face racism because of their looks.
I’m black by the way and I wonhundredpercent agree with you preach
He wouldn't have done it at the time when racism against Orientals was rife in Europe and Korean, Japanese and Chinese men were called effeminate and all sorts of names.
And that's exactly the problem. It's pretty much always a white person doing these things, screams privilege at full volume, when the truth is that they just pick and choose what they like about the culture, often stereotypes, and that's it. It's like next level cultural appropriation.
It’s just an obvious show of how MUCH privilege? I guess is the right word. That he has. It’s just soo freaking disrespectful. The stereotyping he does is beyond me. He’s not involving himself in the ACTUAL culture but only the shallow stereotypes. But that’s not even the biggest problem here. He needs to get some kind of help. To help his mindset get back to a better place. And not be in such an unhealthy state. It’s honestly sad to see this happening to someone, Jimin to be specific I guess, and it’s sad to see the person doing it because you know how unhealthy their mindset is.
@@Baepsae_Nation I know that in some parts of the world the 'conflict' is national between white people and black people, but you really have to stop trying to dehumanize white people that way because of their skin color and what that represents in society, and especially that people like Oli are certainly not a true representation of white people.
It is together, all, that things change, not by hating each other even more.
Protect Jimin at all costs. 😭
I agree with what u guys are saying throughout your video!!
The thing is Oli be trynna make them eyes small to look more Korean but Korean beauty standards like and move more towards to bigger eyes
That's not even the point. The fact that he got surgery to make his eyes look stereotypically Asian so he can finally call himself Korean when he isn't. It's ridiculous and racist.
Also he wants eyes like Jimin, and Jimin doesn't have big round eyes
its also racist
@@annaaa4080 exactly 💯
*their
i'm sorry but when david was like "if you start identifying as...david???? no i will not allow that" i was WHEEZING
Yeayyy anna's here!!
I love the reactions from the guy in the baseball cap - just brilliant expressions.
Hope to hell Jimin never comes face to face with him cause Oli is nuts. They ought to ban him from Korea.
ikr i hope bighit blacklisted them
I wouldn't be surprised if bh knows about this guy. He will never come across jimin. He's sick. 🤢 i want to feel sorry for him but nah, this ain't it.
If that idiot ever goes to Korea I'm gonna go ninja mode on the air breather and feed them to sharks
hi, pls refer to Oli w they/them pronouns, thanks.
@@jsoe81657 why?
I love how he’s talking about his “bullies” being insecure when he’s the one who’s had a ton of surgery to look like someone else
You guys are aweeeeesooooomeeeeeee
18:25 I'll miss these interactions... them bickering a bit and having varying opinions about the same topic... All the best for the future Danny!
The one who needs to get a life is Oli London, he's clearly trying to get Jimin's. Also the only reason he's making any sense about things is because he probably stole that speech from someone else just like he's trying to steal Jimin's face. People need to stop giving this guy attention of any kind. You are all giving him what he wants.
hey pls use they/them, i know Oli is a shitty person but trans and non-binary people in general deserve to be respected so pls use the (real) pronouns (korean/jimin are obviously not real pronouns but they/them are)
@@Carolina-wz2qo Don't fall in his trap! He is just using this gender identity thing to get attention just like he is using Jimin and to make a shield against koreans and army who can see his bs.
@@Vor567tez doesn't matter. you not refering to them with their pronouns is NOT OKAY. you cannot trivialise any individual's transness or their gender identity. please edit the comment with they/them pronouns thanks.
If Oli London Dares to Buy Cardboard Cutouts/"Wifey" Boosters (Bedtime Boosters having Covers Featuring 🖼 of Anime/Cartoon Characters for Weeaboos but I have Yet to See 1️⃣ Featuring 📷 of K-Celebrities) of All SB19 👦 for His Own Pleasure, ....
I WILL BE JUMPING MAD LIKE HELL IN ANGER. 😡😠🤬😤 (As a Full-Blooded Asian who is Neither a Korean Nor a Filipino.) Cos Nobody Among Asian Celebrities Deserves to be Constantly Harrassed by this Madman. Aish.... 🤦♀️
Meanwhile, I will be More Happier if All of the SB19 👦 can be Allowed to Start Dating with 👧, Getting Married with Them & Start their Own 👨👩👧👦 in Near Future. 😍🤩🥰😘😚😗 (Even if 3️⃣ of Them - Stell, Ken & Justin - are Pet Owners by Now as of 18-7-21.)
Please use they/them pronouns for them! I hate them as much as the next guy but we still need to have respect for actual pronouns!
See, the thing is, there's nothing wrong with being non-brinary and changing your pronouns but identifying yourself as jimin is not👏 valid👏. why? because jimin's a person with his own identity, feelings, history and life. so oli's pronouns are basically and completely invalid.
Exactly
Yep
Korean/Jimin aren't even pronouns technically. One's nationality other's a whole other person bruh.. smh
I really had to power through the entire thing, omg, I just feel bad for this guy now, whatever is on his mind I hope he can figure it out at some point, it must be reaaly painful for him whenever he's alone
The discussion at the end was very interesting, never knew Danny feels partly Canadian too
They’re making a mockery of the trans community. Ollie’s words show that they don’t respect trans, they’re just using lgbtq struggles to further their own agenda
And it’s exactly why as a non-binary person that uses they/them pronouns I am disrespectfully refusing to use his “pronouns” it will be a cold day in hell and pigs will start flying before I EVER call Oli anything other than a sick British culturally appropriating man he doesn’t respect the trans community he doesn’t respect our struggles and he disrespects my Korean community, people and culture as well and as much as I’m usually for respecting peoples pronouns and not misgendering people but this is where I draw the line he is a man he is using non-binary struggles and Korean culture for clout and I hope he continues to get all the hate he deserves
@@tylerkim68 as a non binary person who is also part Korean, i do not think that oli is using the trans community to hurt the Korean community. I hope you would still use they/them pronouns for Oli since they did say they are they/them. I do not respect them in any way, and i do think that oli is disgusting, but that still dont change the fact that they are non binary. Cruel and disgusting people exist in every community, either the white, Korean, or lgbtq community, but you shouldn’t be harming a whole community just because they are apart of it. Oli being non- binary has nothing to do with them “identifying as Korean Jimin”.
@@raze4885 here’s why I think you’re wrong, he’s not coming out as non-binary to hurt the Korean community he came out for clout. Recently more and more people have been coming out which is great more celebrities are coming out as non-binary and using they/them pronouns but what Oli wants what Oli looks for and craves is attention any attention he can get even if it’s bad. There was actually a video a while back of his former best friend talking about how he doesn’t actually really believe he’s Korean Jimin, doesn’t really like kpop, etc and does all of it cause he wants the attention and is a giant troll. Do you remember when Demi came out how much people started talking about them questioning what non-binary was etc the different headlines they made for coming out. I don’t think Oli is actually non-binary I think he’s riding this wave and trying to be a transtrender and not actually identify as someone that’s non-binary. We’ve already seen he doesn’t give a shit about peoples cultures and communities and is will to reduce them by stereotypes you think he really gives a shit about the non-binary community you think he isn’t doing the exact same when he’s proved multiple times that pretty much everything he does is for clout. When he genuinely apologizes for everything he’s done and stops making a mockery of our communities and proves he means it maybe then I’ll listen if he wants to come out but I don’t feel he was being genuine
No oli isn’t making a mockery of real trans people. He’s on their team.
@@vincentlaw6985 using the trans struggle to “come out” as a different ethnicity is not being on their team.
This guy was on "Botched" with his cardboard Jimin trying to get those Drs to change his face...of course they refused him and said he had one of the worst cases of body dysmorphia (sp?) They have ever seen! 😳
Yeah, they need help not more surgery.
Thats what I thought maybe he has body dysmorphic disorder.
please refer to them with their (real) pronouns thanks. (while korean and jimin are not real pronouns, they/them are actual pronouns)
@@IshaanMenon if he identifies as they/them and as jimin (who is male) then that means oli still identifies as male because jimin is male.
(Even though I know the idea is stupid. Also I respect the LGBTQ+ community just not oli london and everything he does if for clout so Idk is I trust anything that comes out his mouth!)
@@jinphany. that's... not how it works... wow y'all will really go to any lengths to nOt gender them correctly huh
I'm obsessed with Korean skincare so I'm Korean now!🤣
The looks on ALL of your faces are PRICELESS!! 🤣🤣
The whole respecting someone's pronoun is cool, but using "Jimin" for his identity is pretty damn offensive. I think that's something everyone would understand not respecting.
Side note: loving Anna's English accent.
@Manahil Chaudhry Well there is such thing as a neo pronouns but using someone's identity and ethnicity isn't a valid neo pronouns so it's more like it's hurting people who are non binary and people who use neo pronouns
Yea as a non-binary person who is Korean and uses they/them pronouns umm I’m disrespectfully refusing to use his “pronouns” like if he’s gonna make a joke out of both of my communities and people and culture then I’m purposefully not going to acknowledge him as either because it’s so disrespectful
@Manahil Chaudhry yeah it feels like he’s just disassembling the true meaning of non binary
Pronouns is going too far. You can't be a they. It's grammatically fucking incorrect in English to refer to a person as a they/them...unless they have DID (ie multiple personality disorder) Then...I'd say they qualify to be referred as they, since they literally would have other consciousnesses inside their heads.
@@delaineyjohnson8238 Using “they” to refer to a single person has been going on for hundreds of years longer than using “you” to refer to one person. It’s been in use since the late 14th century, meanwhile singular “you” only became a thing in the 17th century. If thou don’t use “they” as a singular pronoun, thou had better not use “you” as one either.
The only thing Oli needs is help. It's sad. They need professional help.
He***
@First Last oli goes by they/them just a lot of ppl don’t respect them and don’t use their pronouns
@@graceyea He's a man...
@@default1991 born in the body of a man.. But he doesn't identify himself as a 'he'.. So just respect his identity and pronouns
"They Them Jimin". Can't stop laughing.
Anna's face says it all lol
Love you guys from Morocco
It annoys me and breaks my heart that Oli doesn’t give a sh*t how Jimin might feel about it. It would creep me out if there is some stranger I have never met in my life and didn’t know this person exists is out there having tons of surgeries to look like me and even claiming me as a pronoun.
Let's just stop giving they the attention they wants😂
Thank you
@@yvette4933 ???
Exactly
@@Azumarill87 I’m thanking you for your comment, he’s an attention seeker
They* use correct pronouns
All i have to say is your allowed to identify as whatever you want and be yourself as long as you don't harm other people
just be happy and be yourself
#loveyourself
Idk why we're suppose to respect Oli's "pronounce" when it's so painfully obvious he's just mocking the LGBTQ+ and comparing to his idea of "trans-racial"
exactly! i dont have any respect for him so I ain't gonna use his pronouns either, as you said its so clear he's just doing this as mockery so he doesn't deserve that respect
omfg this. and not just the lgbtq+ community, he's constantly belittling and fetishizing korean culture. why tf should i respect his pronouns when he won't respect my family's culture??? also, oli claims to be non-binary, yet identifies as jimin, who is male. like...???? which is it???
I think this is the most DONE I have EVER seen David look and that is saying A LOT 😅
*Histrionic personality disorder (HPD)* is a disorder where ppl seeks attention at an excessive and obsessive manner. Often they do risky and questionable things such as these surgeries that Oily Lotion's been doing.
Also as a multinational individual I just want to clarify the difference between nationality and ethnicity.
*I have to disagree with Danny* because you can identify as a Canadian or a British etc individual in the sense that your daily activity and cultural activities are the same to that national OR you actually hold their passport.
HOWEVER, *ETHNICITY IS NOT THE SAME!* You cannot *EVER* change your ethnicity because that's just where you are from.
*We don't get to chose our biological identity.*
Hi - He did say when he lived here in Canada he identified as Canadian. He went to schools here etc. I don't know how long he lived here but it sounded like quite a lot of his younger years. Take care 🙂
@@jayceewedmak9524 canadian is not an ethnicity lol ....
@@wewenang5167 you are correct ✌
I knew it was this. I heard about it before, but wasn't sure. Agree with you absolutely.
I completely agree with you, but in their case they're identifying as a Korean but they doesn't know any of the culture, they didn't live there that long and they doesn't speak the language.
I remember seeing in an interview that when the interviewer asked them what interested them in Korea, they said kpop and ran out of ideas, which honestly for me is a little offensive considering how packed the Korean culture is.
But that's just my opinion! :)
The less attention we give Oli the better. Their a terrible toxic representation for the communities they claim to be apart of. This person should not represent a whole! Usually love the content you guys put out but it this was a bit cringe.
He seems to have grown out of this. Some of his tweets lately shows his focus has switched.
Why do we pay attention to this? We are just enabling this person by feeding him attention
Exactly 🙄
That's why useless people like him are becoming famous for no reason
@@Azumarill87 He got big catch me outside energy lol
@Amanda Syifa Budiman the trauma jimin is going through
Okay, but seriously. What are YOU guys doing here? Some of you keep saying "Don't give this guy attention", but you chose to click on this video and that gives him indirect attention, which is exactly the opposite of what you're saying
I think if he wanted to be "korean", he could move to Korea and find a way to get a citizen visa. After all, if he gets a visa he would become a citizen of Korea, right? But the fact that he is a white man who had eye surgery to "look more Korean" implies a physiognomic fetishization of what he understands to be Korean. And that is yellow racism for sure. But, the thing is, non-binary transgender were the transition is not about the gender, but about race? What? NO! That's just to absurd.
Do you know that the extreme right have asked: Why not? If people can transition in gender why not in race. They then accused pro LGBTQ who are against Oli as "hypocrites".
@@TwoMiceOnMyBookshelfExactly! That's all they want in the first place, discredit minorities.
@@TwoMiceOnMyBookshelf and that is why a lot of otherwise LGBTQ+ supporting ppl like me side eye the timing of his coming out as non-binary. It’s a distraction and equates two VERY different things.
Yeah, I'm pretty sure he doesn't even have a Korean citizenship.
@@em5522 it’s probably safer for him, in legal terms, if he doesn’t considering what he’s doing. If he became a citizen, he’d become subject to their laws.
I can't decide whether I identify as a Jedi (Star Wars) or Winnie the Pooh... 😂😂😂
I appreciate that you guys are taking the time to genuinely reflect on what he has to say and the exploration of his identity. I can’t say that I agree with him, but I understand that he does have some kind of identity process going on and that’s kind of hard to ignore.
I understand that today we have more freedom to be who we really are.
But to identify themself as another person, of another ethnicity and they even identifies themself as being 25 years old when this is not the case, you cannot change all these things that are facts in reality. It's just not okay.
I saw a video where an interviewer asks them what they likes about Korean culture, after answering k-pop they had nothing to say, it was embarrassing.
Agree with your comment, he could've stopped with saying they/them pronoun, he really think people are gonna accept him as another living person, that's a whole different f**ked up, imo it's pretty clear he doesn't really care about any pronouns or lgbtq community, he's coming up with new stuff every single time and holding to jimin for the extra attention, im curious about oilys next bs lol
They/ them/themself* use the correct pronouns.
@@fairykepi6385 Done.
@@zebicel9777 Besides it is worrying their obession of Jimin, I pray that Jimin is never to know about their existence and frightening obession worthy of the sasaengs.
@@anaisc8733 yes you're absolutely right it's worrying behaviour, that man needs some immediate mental help , oli declared they're "married to jimin's cardboard cutout", i think they even posted something like making out or kissing with that cutout , that's illegal right, its obvious jimin didn't give that man any permission to get married to his cardboard cutout and now using jimin as a pronoun
Oli needs therapy
15:23 You're not Jimin! Jimin is not a community, Jimin is a person! Pretending to be someone else is identity theft! Oh my gosh!
They them jimin korean es todo un loquillo
STOP GIVING HIM ATTENTION. That's why he's stayed relevant and controversial for THIS long. He's even said it himself, he does this for the attention. He won't change no matter what you say (especially Korean people who try to educate him and call him out) HE DOESN'T CARE WHAT YOU HAVE TO SAY. AND HE WON'T CHANGE NO MATTER WHAT YOU SAY.
THANK YOU omfg, he's literally just a troll, he doesn't care how much negative things you say to him, he feeds off of the attention and clout.
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Koreans better protect jimin from this crazy man, this is not normal, he’d obsessed and it’s dangerous
olilondon: sToP tRyInG tO cAncEl mE
also olilondon: culturally appropriates 24/7
You can literally see David's mental state breaking down during the "coming out" video.... hes losing his brain cells by the second 🤣
At some point this actually turns into identity theft. I don't think there would have been any problem if someone just moves to SK and then says "my korean name is Park Jimin." cause there's more than one Park Jimin in SK. The problem is he's actively been trying to look like Jimin for years, to then after all this effort to look like him then say "I am Jimin" is treading real close if not is identity theft.
Yes getting scary
he’s clearly an attention seeking troll, there’s no way he actually believes that he’s Jimin lol. I don’t think he’s non-binary either. if no one talked abt him, he would just disappear from social media.
He doesn't care about Jimin.
He doesn't care about Koreans.
He doesn't care about Lgbt.
The only thing he cares about is attention and money.
Crazy doesn't need logic.
16:54 the guy in left.. this was my expression while watching oli...
I think the solution to this oli guy is to just stop talking about him. Imagine how funny it'd be when he's changing his entire identity(clearly for attention) but not a single soul notices and gives a fuck about it.
Jimin worked hard to become who he is. Oli should work himself hard to become himself. Not just try to look like Jimin and go around saying that he is Jimin. You cannot rob someone's identity or achievement. He needs to find himself as Oli London. He should not affect Jimin's life. If I was Jimin, I would be truly creeped. I don't care if he is getting all that plastic surgery to look like Korean. He cannot go around and say he is Jimin or married to him. That is invading Jimin's life and he absolutely have no right to. That is not OK.
He is using jimin for clout
honestly while this might have started out of some weird desire to be korean i genuinely feel like oli london's just enjoying the attention they're receiving at this point. i definitely believe they're aware of how outrageous their actions are and i have zero sympathy. i just feel bad for jimin who's been caught up in this weirdo's attention seeking scheme
PLEASE David's face the whole time 😭
3:38 Wait did he actually believe that some of us 'identify' as POTATO 😂😂 omg what is wrong with him. How come this grown adult never realised that it was supposed to be a joke.
the way they were almost agreeing with him until 13:54..... the switch-up was so quick im crying 😭😭
technically he is hurting others by doing this.. he exploded in British news because of this ‘non-binary Korean’ or whatever, which results in this being many people’s first or memorable exposure to Korean culture/ kpop, which can also result in biased views/ hate. but also Jimin could be hurt and probably embarrassed but we wouldn’t know. he’s also defaming Jimin sorta?
And not just that. They are especially hurting LGBTQ+ folk's reputation in the public, too. A lot of people are using them as an example of like " So you all agree being transracial is bullsh*t, but how is it different from being transgender " etc... And it just hurts my mind and heart to then - of course - see people like Ben Shapiro jump on this issue to absolutely trash trans people or any other queer folks and invalidate their existence, rights etc ( I hope I got my point across because English is only my third language ).
Not only that, but also hurting the LGBTQ+community. They (using this pronoun to be respectful to non-binary individuals) are using the same verbiage Enby and Trans use for when they come out. I've heard conservatives say "they can accept transgenders, but not transracials? They are making up their own rules and being hypocrites."
It's like someone speaking on their experiences and saying how terrible it was and what they had to go through for someone else to then say, "Ah, yes. I ate a bad taco and had the runs. I know exactly how you feel. I went through a terrible time also. We are the same."
@@lovablecharacter8167 oh, no problem. I find it actually funny how two people basically have matching thoughts while stumbling across the same comment tehe
you guys are very right but just wanted to remind everyone to pls use they/them
@@Carolina-wz2qo oh yes, I agree. I edited my second comment so that I do just that, but it got deleted. Idk how though.
David looks like he’s really going through it
Not to mention in multiple of his tiktoks he says “ I’m Jimins brother, father etc” if your non-binary then why would you ever feel comfortable using the term brother???
Non-binary is a spectrum. It means not fully male/female. It doesn't mean gender neutral or agender. Non-binary people can be gender fluid or be demi-girls/demi-boys. They can use they/them pronouns or he/him or she/her or neo-pronouns. It's just that they are not the binary male/female.
This is the first time for me to actually see one of their videos to this extent and I agree with quite a bit of their points at the beginning. Honestly though, they have a knack for degrading their own credibility with their own doings. They say they like a culture and then appropriate it to the extent its almost cringey. They say they are part of LGBT+ community and then add korean jimin as a pronoun which makes it look like they are mocking the community and the concept of pride month altogether. I wonder how their family must feel seeing them trying to deny everthing they are and claiming to be something they aren't. I hope they get the help they need to be a better person in general. Also, them being like that even shades other communities to be viewed in bad light by general public. I wish they'd just stop.
Wish that Both Jake Zyrus (a 🇵🇭 Soloist who was Formerly Known as Charice Before His Sex Reassignment Surgery) & Jennie Panhan (a Famous 🇹🇭 Celebrity who was Born as a Male but is Currently Living as a Female) Won't Be Meeting Oli London in Person within the Near Future. (Along with All of the Other Famous LGBT Personalities within Asia.) 🥺😢😭
Oli London is literally that old "I identify as an apache combat hellicopter" joke but multiplied x10000 and super out of control.
He even mentioned BTS and Jimin in a national TV show...I wish Bighit would sue him soon.
😂 Did David really say “They them Jimin?” 🤣🤣 that made me laugh 😂
Been waiting for this conversation
"They, them, Jimin" haha David
😂😂😂David's laugh is so infectious. I even did a laugh snort 😅
As a Canadian... I approve you as identifying as Canadian for the sole purpose that you played hockey and saw bears!! That was awesome 😂
🇨🇦😍👍🏻❤🤍❤
DAVID looks so Done LMAO 😂😂😂
Oli emphasized that he can do whatever he wants because of democracy that granted "freedom". But that does not mean "freedom" allows him to offend, disrespect and hurt (not physically) other people. People who often use " freedom" as an excuse also often abuse that right because they have an obscure to vauge view of the boundaries of freedom. Where does freedom ends and responsibility starts? 🤔
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the second that kpop going out of "trend" like.... less trendy.... he is going to regret it...
I always wanted my name to be Laszlo because it sounds like something you would find in source 2004. And source is so nostalgic BUT that's stupid imma keep my original name.
I think everyone missed the point. Everything Oli said as it relates to being non-binary makes sense, but the negativity they’re referring to is because he “came out as Korean” and the Jimin pronouns. If they had simply come out as non-binary with they/them pronouns then I’ll bet it wouldn’t have had the same response. There are two HUGE inherent problems here : identifying with another ethnicity/race is not the same as gender. Look at Rachel Dolezal pretending to be black then saying she identified as black when she was caught (even although she’s white). Being white affords an ethnic and cultural privilege and identifying with elements of another ethnicity or race (even if you truly love and appreciate those aspect) dismissed the historic and current racism, prejudice and barriers people went through to get to the place where Rachel or Oli can just appropriate it. Second, for non-binary and trans people, saying that you can identify as a dog or a unicorn… to truly believe that’s the same thing as the complexity of what people experience as non- binary or trans… it’s insulting, cruel, and dangerous to think that way. Yes, there are people who identify as a dog, but it’s more like a kink. They are not naked with a collar 24/7, changing their legal identity, not speaking ever again, etc. It feels awful to even compare the two in this example. The last big point to make here is that Oli makes money with the most views, comments, and engagements he can get. They may be extremely smart in keeping everyone talking about him.
(Edited for spelling error and to fix pronouns)
@SonderDAze X that generally has to do with coming from multiple races or those people just don't identify as being a part of race because of how politicized it is. race, btw, is not genetic- it's a social construct that was made to classify and disadvantage people who looked "different" or were from a certain place. oli is a white britisher. if he were to have identified as race-fluid, maybe it wouldn't have such a big deal but he specifically wants to be korean, an asian, which is inappropriate and insults different cultures that way. and more than korean, he wants to be jimin. that is a the main issue. it's still appropriation if he wants to "be korean" but the internet would eventually forget him as a crazy white guy with an asian wannabe fetish. by specifically targeting jimin, he's always keeping himself in the spotlight and basically insulting his own body. oli needs to use his money for psychiatric help, not make-me-a-korean surgery.
@SonderDAze X you completely missed the point of two comments and yet you claim to know everything. wow.
hey pls use they/them, i completely agree with you, just wanted to remind you of the pronouns
@@Carolina-wz2qo Thank you! Done.
@@jillgoth7299 thank you so much! i tried reminding a few people here and have just been yelled at so far, so thank you
OMG! Oli is such a joke and HYBE should sue him for defamation of character for Jimin. That is horrible. He will cause Jimin trouble. He needs a life long gag order to say he is to never mention Korea, Jimin, BTS and other groups. Never speak of them, if he does, off to jail. I bet he will stop.
Lmfao don't know what's gonna happen to him cause he literally offended three big communities with one sentence i.e, lgbtq people ,korean citizens and bts army🤦♀️
Im late to this party, but Anna your smile is beautiful
Here's my two cents on Oli London. He hides behind the quote "imitation is the sincerest form of flattery" to justify the things he says and does but he contradicts himself because he is also promoting authenticity. How can you be authentically yourself when you copy another? Imitation is different from inspiration. Him using his coming out story to justify copying Jimin and identifying as Jimin is disturbing and dangerous. You can identify as a certain species all you want but you can never become another specific person entirely. That is identity theft. It's scary to think thay he really thinks this is ok and then influence people to do the same. If he wants to be respected for who he is, he inturn needs to respect other people too especially Jimin's individuality and privacy. There is always a line. I hope that Hybe takes action before it goes too far.
pls use they/them, just a reminder..
It’s a dude. Stop letting terrible people hide behind labels. It’s very clear he uses it just too avoid criticism. He’s the male Trisha paytas
Whoa boy, here we go...but seriously we do need to stop giving they/them publicity.
16:52 David's reaction here SENDS me
yo they mentioned cam and holland!! love those two! and i agree, ig oli did his homework at least- he just couldn't change himself and that's why his words don't hold the same weight.
David wasn’t having it the whole time. He was sooo done. 😂
A lot of people are saying respect his pronouns, but maybe watch this first and reconsider (a leaked audio recording of him admittingly saying that he's just doing everything for clout) ua-cam.com/video/MO2wN-FtvEk/v-deo.html I would say those who want the pronouns to be actually respected should stand up against him.
every time I hear: "they, them...Korean Jimin" I burst into laughter
20:23 😂😂 the agony of subscribing to Oli... poor Anna
i identify myself as "King" Please just call me King in the future. thx
I mean, King can be an actual name or a neopronoun, so it's technically not a problem. You can genuinely go for it if you want lol
Koreans don't care about Oil London, they care about Jimin only, that's why they don't talk about this weird guy. People who love Jimin wont talk about Oil London, period.
I agree with David's points