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Working out with maces are more difficult and challenging than working out with clubs of similar weights. Handling the momentum generated by swinging the maces works on your forehands and wrists while handling the clubs works on the lats and deltoids. In both cases, the shoulders muscles work.
As a beginner I found the mace pulled more on my inner tendons of my elbow causing tendinitis (golfers elbow) as opposed to club. Hence I’ve stuck with just clubs and will eventually go back to mace when my tendons are strong enough.
Anyone ever had issues with inguinal hernia using a macebell? I was operated on in 2018 (nonmesh, open surgery) and only recently started using a 5kg macebell. After one week of using it a little bit daily I developed apretty annoying pain around the surgical site. I am afraid the hernia is going to pop out if I continue so I definitely stopped using the mace until the pain goes away but perhaps should stop all together...
Very sadly yes. Unfortunately that area is always affected by the movements of course. However yes the mesh is supposed to be not as strong as searing both ends of the hernia pushing them together and suturing it back. But don't worry you're doing everything correctly. Just be careful cautious and continue doing the inguinal stretching exercises prior to picking up a 30-lb macebell or heavier good luck and have a great day
Just two side note on your macebell training. Based on the hernia or affected areas that are within your body. You will develop muscles, correction controlling muscles that will accommodate the affected area overtime. The greatest part about our bodies is that we can and still and continuously evolve
@@jameslaiola4976 i don't have a mesh. Like I wrote, it was nonmesh, open surgery. They stitched the minor hernia and stitched me back up and that was it. It never felt perfect and now got to a point where I probably straight up torn it.
@@krisztianwirsz3612 I hear you. Believe me I do know the pain you're talkin about. In fact The Rock Dwayne Johnson recently had hernia surgery as well. What I've noticed among hernia patients is that they tend to lose a lot of weight quickly. I'm not sure why. But it's just a good idea to take it easy. The Torrance hernia Center instructed me to buy a Thigh Master and do leg lifts periodically. It does help and it strengthens the area. Yes I realize you've been told this a million times before. Have a great day and I wish you well
As a total begginer, with little physical space to any trainning where using a mace to do a 360 (or anything) is not possible, even with the possibility to hit your chin with the club, is it still a viable option for a 360 or a 10 to 2? Thanks in advance!
You could do steel club mills instead if space is an issue. I wouldn’t test maces out in spaces that limited. I have a tutorial on them here: ua-cam.com/video/JNS--SN5AnQ/v-deo.htmlsi=XxSTkdzBPnnIzwDa
I notice most of these movements rely heavily on momentum (for obvious reasons.) What about reducing the weight significantly and moving the club/mace very slowly through the entire movement as opposed to letting it drop/swing? Is this a good idea for building strength in those in-between areas? Or is it likely to wreak havoc on the wrists and/or shoulders?
Slowing down any swing variant with any tool would cause injury. This is why pressing 8and squatting to should be done slowly, and is known as a “grind movement” - rather than a “ballistic movement” seen with swings, cleans, jerks, and snatches. So short answer, no it’s not a good idea because they they are momentum based being asymmetrically loaded.
@@scottk1525 You could do slower versions of the 360 by doing kettlebell halos, but your changing the movement completely. Sometimes if you can't do the movie, you should just not do the movement. I'll never attempt a Jefferson Curl.
@@farstrider79 I'm not suggesting slowing the movement down as an *easier* way to complete it, but as a more *challenging* way to complete it, so as to actually challenge all the muscles that get cheated by relying on gravity and momentum in the conventional method. Like the difference between a slow controlled pull-up versus a CrossFit pull-up.
@@scottk1525 Ok, but I agree with what coach Vaughn said. Keep the ballistic movements ballistic, and the grind movements slow. Use the hammer to drive nails and the screwdriver to drive screws, don't try to do it the other way around.
@@farstrider79 But any grind movement can be a ballistic movement and vice versa. It's just a matter of speed and weight. Just seems that movements like this where 90% of the movement is relying on gravity and momentum is kind of a waste. People feel cool moving a mace around, but it's not really accomplishing much to just let it swing like a pendulum. Surely there are better ways to train the target musculature.
@@londonrhodes2429 Im 5'8 140 pounds I do calisthenics and farmer walk 50 pound kettlebells each hand regularly for strength training the 10 pound mace caught me by a surprise maybe because I got a thin wrist but if your a bigger guy the 15 pound is viable,
Enter The Steel Mace Book: www.amazon.com/Enter-Steel-Mace-Strength-Training/dp/B08F6JZB14
GADA Club Ebook: www.coachvaughn.net/programs/gada-club-guide-for-indian-steel-club-strength-training
Onnit Steel Maces: onnit.sjv.io/qnqg3q / Onnit Steel Clubs: onnit.sjv.io/a1kGVR
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Working out with maces are more difficult and challenging than working out with clubs of similar weights. Handling the momentum generated by swinging the maces works on your forehands and wrists while handling the clubs works on the lats and deltoids. In both cases, the shoulders muscles work.
As a beginner I found the mace pulled more on my inner tendons of my elbow causing tendinitis (golfers elbow) as opposed to club. Hence I’ve stuck with just clubs and will eventually go back to mace when my tendons are strong enough.
Been finding this comment pretty common nowadays, and makes a lot of sense. Totally agree clubs are a better fit with those with elbow issues.
These work outs seem good for fencing. Gonna try ‘em.
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For me the clubbell is the right choice. Ceiling too low and don't want to smash things accidentally 😂
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Anyone ever had issues with inguinal hernia using a macebell? I was operated on in 2018 (nonmesh, open surgery) and only recently started using a 5kg macebell. After one week of using it a little bit daily I developed apretty annoying pain around the surgical site. I am afraid the hernia is going to pop out if I continue so I definitely stopped using the mace until the pain goes away but perhaps should stop all together...
Very sadly yes. Unfortunately that area is always affected by the movements of course. However yes the mesh is supposed to be not as strong as searing both ends of the hernia pushing them together and suturing it back. But don't worry you're doing everything correctly. Just be careful cautious and continue doing the inguinal stretching exercises prior to picking up a 30-lb macebell or heavier good luck and have a great day
Just two side note on your macebell training. Based on the hernia or affected areas that are within your body. You will develop muscles, correction controlling muscles that will accommodate the affected area overtime. The greatest part about our bodies is that we can and still and continuously evolve
@@jameslaiola4976 i don't have a mesh. Like I wrote, it was nonmesh, open surgery. They stitched the minor hernia and stitched me back up and that was it. It never felt perfect and now got to a point where I probably straight up torn it.
@@krisztianwirsz3612 I hear you. Believe me I do know the pain you're talkin about. In fact The Rock Dwayne Johnson recently had hernia surgery as well. What I've noticed among hernia patients is that they tend to lose a lot of weight quickly. I'm not sure why. But it's just a good idea to take it easy. The Torrance hernia Center instructed me to buy a Thigh Master and do leg lifts periodically. It does help and it strengthens the area. Yes I realize you've been told this a million times before. Have a great day and I wish you well
@@jameslaiola4976 okay, thanks!
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Seems useful for eskrima or arnis
Great for all martial arts training.
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how much lb does one club have in the video where you hold both? I just mean a single one.
As a total begginer, with little physical space to any trainning where using a mace to do a 360 (or anything) is not possible, even with the possibility to hit your chin with the club, is it still a viable option for a 360 or a 10 to 2? Thanks in advance!
You could do steel club mills instead if space is an issue. I wouldn’t test maces out in spaces that limited. I have a tutorial on them here: ua-cam.com/video/JNS--SN5AnQ/v-deo.htmlsi=XxSTkdzBPnnIzwDa
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I notice most of these movements rely heavily on momentum (for obvious reasons.) What about reducing the weight significantly and moving the club/mace very slowly through the entire movement as opposed to letting it drop/swing? Is this a good idea for building strength in those in-between areas? Or is it likely to wreak havoc on the wrists and/or shoulders?
Slowing down any swing variant with any tool would cause injury. This is why pressing 8and squatting to should be done slowly, and is known as a “grind movement” - rather than a “ballistic movement” seen with swings, cleans, jerks, and snatches.
So short answer, no it’s not a good idea because they they are momentum based being asymmetrically loaded.
@@scottk1525 You could do slower versions of the 360 by doing kettlebell halos, but your changing the movement completely. Sometimes if you can't do the movie, you should just not do the movement. I'll never attempt a Jefferson Curl.
@@farstrider79 I'm not suggesting slowing the movement down as an *easier* way to complete it, but as a more *challenging* way to complete it, so as to actually challenge all the muscles that get cheated by relying on gravity and momentum in the conventional method. Like the difference between a slow controlled pull-up versus a CrossFit pull-up.
@@scottk1525 Ok, but I agree with what coach Vaughn said. Keep the ballistic movements ballistic, and the grind movements slow. Use the hammer to drive nails and the screwdriver to drive screws, don't try to do it the other way around.
@@farstrider79 But any grind movement can be a ballistic movement and vice versa. It's just a matter of speed and weight. Just seems that movements like this where 90% of the movement is relying on gravity and momentum is kind of a waste. People feel cool moving a mace around, but it's not really accomplishing much to just let it swing like a pendulum. Surely there are better ways to train the target musculature.
Question for a beginner should I start off with a 7 lb club or a 7 lb mace?
Focus on club before mace. Start with a 15 lbs if you are male.
@@londonrhodes2429 Im 5'8 140 pounds I do calisthenics and farmer walk 50 pound kettlebells each hand regularly for strength training the 10 pound mace caught me by a surprise maybe because I got a thin wrist but if your a bigger guy the 15 pound is viable,
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