The Island Leader Who’s Sticking It to China | Ishmael Toroama

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  • Опубліковано 27 лип 2024
  • Bougainville is a small island of around 300,000 residents. It's currently part of Papua New Guinea, but it wants to break away and become its own nation. One of the things that makes this island so special is its ability to thwart Chinese influence. In this episode of China Unscripted, we look at the history of Bougainville, how its leader, Ishmael Toroama, is sticking it to China, and how China factors into Bougainville's bid for independence. Joining us in this episode is John Kuhns, the chairman and CEO of Numa Numa Resources in Bougainville. He’s also the author of the book They Call Me Ishmael, a novel based on the real story of a rebel leader with big dreams for his island.
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КОМЕНТАРІ • 87

  • @ChinaUnscripted
    @ChinaUnscripted  2 роки тому +24

    This is a highlight from the full episode No.167 China's Pacific Expansion BLOCKED! | John Kuhns ua-cam.com/video/m9uDW30-yso/v-deo.html

    • @MirceaKitsune
      @MirceaKitsune 2 роки тому +1

      I wonder if it makes me evil that I couldn't not laugh whenever I hear Papuna Ginny.

    • @leads823
      @leads823 2 роки тому

      I was unable to view the full episode. Is there anything weird you can do to get past the block?

    • @TonyRule
      @TonyRule 2 роки тому +1

      @@leads823 Weirdly, it's set to private, so no.

    • @wolfgangkranek376
      @wolfgangkranek376 2 роки тому

      Bogonville hurts in my ears...

  • @rolleyrolley7192
    @rolleyrolley7192 2 роки тому +28

    I just made new friend from bogan vile here in Sydney name made me laugh becausehow Aussie use the word bogan.
    But i have to say he is one of the nicest people ive ever met.
    Very thoughtful of other people always smiling. I love every opportunity to for a chat. His great out look on life.

    • @brendanh8193
      @brendanh8193 2 роки тому +5

      When I was growing up, my dad(therefore family) befriended two Boganvillians who were over here in Australia. One was studying, the other was having a complex operation on his spine. They were lovely, and when they smiled, their teeth were like beacons as their skin was so black. Their humor was laconic but poignantly reflective, showing a deep intelligence I now realise. I greatly enjoyed being around them.

    • @dusmangi
      @dusmangi 3 місяці тому +1

      souns the same but slighty different bougainville its spelt not bogan 😆

  • @hoangkimviet8545
    @hoangkimviet8545 2 роки тому +8

    It is the first time I've known Bougaville.

  • @yashav2949
    @yashav2949 2 роки тому +13

    And there I was thinking Boganville was a nickname for a very large trailer park type location. Even they are sticking it to China apparently

  • @Dwarvish_Cooks
    @Dwarvish_Cooks 2 роки тому +4

    As an Australian, our biggest bogan destination in the region is Bali. Hence the term Bali Bogan! But the reference was a nice and funny surprise to hear.

  • @David_Camerwrongun
    @David_Camerwrongun 2 роки тому +3

    Man gets my support and I'm sure everyone else's, stand by your morals, do the best for your country

  • @bobjackson4720
    @bobjackson4720 2 місяці тому +2

    In 1988 the BRA demanded 14 billion dollars from BCL to allow them to continue operating. BCL was obliged by law to always negotiate with the central government, not the landowners. While BCL was trying to make changes to allow it to pay more to the landowners BRA attacked BCL assets. Bougainvillians in general very racist against the people of PNG. I lived there 13 years

  • @dksgalaxy2268
    @dksgalaxy2268 2 роки тому +2

    LOVE YOU GUYS!!!!!!!!!!

  • @vancityguy
    @vancityguy 2 роки тому +5

    Let's start now, buy products made either locally, NATO countries, or Western friendly/democratic nations (Taiwan, Japan etc.)

  • @ruthferguson6903
    @ruthferguson6903 2 роки тому +3

    Were people on these islands when they were so-called "discovered"? If people were there, then they didn't discover anything!

  • @sharkbait6631
    @sharkbait6631 2 роки тому +12

    We need honesty here. The biggest copper mine in bouganville was by an Australian company. both PNG and the Australian goverment had directi onvolvement in the crisis due to ecoconomic interest. Both were responsible for the unfare sharing of wealth with the islanders that led to the war. When the war started australia provided helicopters to the PNGDF to fight the rebels.

  • @skeecats
    @skeecats 2 роки тому +3

    He "discovered it" you know my people were there already and they knew the area and mapped it.

  • @jasongable3456
    @jasongable3456 2 роки тому +1

    Intriguing i never knew of this political issue or the island

  • @jnseney
    @jnseney 2 роки тому +6

    Ok is it pronounced like Bow-gain-ville or Boo-gain-ville, I thought it was the second.

  • @skiingfast1
    @skiingfast1 2 роки тому +1

    What happened to Bogainville when the mine closed?

  • @neumoi3324
    @neumoi3324 2 роки тому +2

    And I thought the name Bougainville came from the plant Bougainvillea, because it grew extensively there. 😁😁

    • @13gan
      @13gan 2 роки тому

      The plant actually got its name from the same name (either same person that discover the island or the family), apparently in commemoration for his support/patronage.

  • @christopherthom9925
    @christopherthom9925 2 роки тому +1

    GOD bless all free people 😉

  • @teridacktaljones4553
    @teridacktaljones4553 2 роки тому +1

    🙏👍

  • @criticaltheories5222
    @criticaltheories5222 2 роки тому +6

    Don't forget to the Solomon Islands made a deal with China for them to set up a naval base

    • @fourq2049
      @fourq2049 2 роки тому

      It's for trade. No military base is allowed

    • @Lizkrrrr
      @Lizkrrrr 2 роки тому +1

      @@fourq2049 Security pact for trade? 🤔

    • @mikecampos1193
      @mikecampos1193 2 роки тому

      @@fourq2049 stop lying you filthy Commie.

    • @criticaltheories5222
      @criticaltheories5222 2 роки тому +5

      @@fourq2049 China also said they we're not going to take over Hong Kong.
      Edit: Correction. Not China, the CCP.

    • @senatorjosephmccarthy2720
      @senatorjosephmccarthy2720 2 роки тому

      @@criticaltheories5222 . It's a world full of people who can't recognize their lying, murdering, enslaving, life-ruining enemies. Yes, that's china and russia and iran and many more.

  • @MirceaKitsune
    @MirceaKitsune 2 роки тому +1

    I wonder if it makes me evil that I couldn't not laugh whenever I hear Papuna Ginny.

  • @pampoovey6977
    @pampoovey6977 2 роки тому +4

    Blonde Chris and Asian Female Chris did a great job! 😃 👍

  • @chocol8tsundae
    @chocol8tsundae 2 роки тому +4

    Your guest should learn how to pronounce the name of the country. It's not ''Papooa''... it's ''Papua''.

    • @tallaganda83
      @tallaganda83 2 роки тому

      Cringe af, just call it PNG if you can’t pronounce it like all the locals do anyway.

  • @Romanovhundreds17
    @Romanovhundreds17 2 роки тому

    Wheres chris? I've got a feeling he keeps slipping off to get a hair transplant bit by bit ,because it's looking thicker lately 🤔🧔

  • @user-py1ee7os7w
    @user-py1ee7os7w 18 днів тому

    This is not right, what the president is doing should made known to the people of Bougainville

  • @RobinsVoyage
    @RobinsVoyage 2 роки тому +2

    God damnit. Where is Chris?

  • @barbarabrooks4747
    @barbarabrooks4747 2 роки тому +2

    Why not join Australia? It would give more security than independence. They would probably have to be have to have another UN referendum, but being a state in Australia, after negotiating good terms would be very beneficial as far as economic stability and health care.

  • @giorginoedery4811
    @giorginoedery4811 2 роки тому

    Al-Vay-Roe😂

  • @assajventress3204
    @assajventress3204 2 роки тому

    Lmao. Boganville.

  • @steve2064
    @steve2064 2 роки тому

    I get the joke 😄.

  • @zzzzzsleeping
    @zzzzzsleeping 2 роки тому +2

    For years the Pacific nations were neglected by Australia - United states - new Zealand now that the Chinese are knocking - Australia n United states start panicking

    • @petersinclair3997
      @petersinclair3997 2 роки тому +1

      Australia provides seven times as much in aid money to the Pacific islands than does China. The data are readily accessible online.

  • @user-nj7rj7xr6c
    @user-nj7rj7xr6c 7 місяців тому

    John's khunz is a crook

  • @iolohammer
    @iolohammer 2 роки тому

    commen5

  • @ShaddySoldier
    @ShaddySoldier 2 роки тому +2

    I refuse to take any place called "Boganville" seriously. Sounds like some corrupt banana republic island.

  • @glass1258
    @glass1258 2 роки тому +3

    Bogusville

  • @fourq2049
    @fourq2049 2 роки тому

    Taiwan cannot " stick it to China " China is independent of all other countries. The are global exporters with a powerful military🤣

    • @mikecampos1193
      @mikecampos1193 2 роки тому

      Silence slave communist don't speak.

    • @sydneythomason1801
      @sydneythomason1801 2 роки тому

      Four Q
      Except when they lick Pooties backside.

    • @michaelandrews4783
      @michaelandrews4783 2 роки тому

      Taiwan has the only democratically elected Chinese government and therefore is the only legitimate government that can rule the mainland. 🤣

  • @larrysmith2123
    @larrysmith2123 2 роки тому

    Do your homework dude.

  • @HavingCoffieWithMrSatan
    @HavingCoffieWithMrSatan 2 роки тому

    Mr satan REEEEE REEEEE

  • @agalah408
    @agalah408 2 роки тому +1

    Just to put the record straight, In central New South Wales, Australia there's a town called Nyngan on the Bogan river. In 2015 they made the logical decision to erect a giant cutout statue of a Big Bogan. A guy in a singlet, with a fishing rod and beer cooler, holding his thumb up. Think twice before disparaging significant cultural icons like Bogans. en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Big_Bogan

  • @richmond8538
    @richmond8538 2 роки тому

    When two elephants fight, its the grass that suffers
    ua-cam.com/video/pDJF0l5xKQ0/v-deo.html

  • @RobinsVoyage
    @RobinsVoyage 2 роки тому +2

    God damnit. Where is Chris?