Holy smokes batman! Some incredible sounds right there, it's great how the effects kind of multiply each other instead of just adding. I figured out how to do a similar thing with feedback delay in my DAW but it's a narrow window of good sounds and a wide spectrum of ear piercing screeches, your setup was just oozing gold in every direction.
You gotta use a peak limiter or a compressor with a high ratio on the track you got the feedbacking effects on. I know how it is getting my ears blasted, whether I turn up the volume way too high by accident or an effect in my daw decides to suddenly feedback above 0db. One time I was using a stock flanger in Bitwig, and it feedbacked so much for some reason. Usually Bitwig prevents that from happeneding, but thankfully Bitwig turns off the sound above a certain threshold of eardrum piercing loudness. I guess it's like an automatic panic button. I wish they had a manual one though. Anyways, I cant figure out how to send a track to itself in Bitwig, so I figured the best way to get the effect is hooking up my microphone to my audio interface and put it in front of a speaker which is connected to one of the speaker outs on the interface. This method is very limiting, and stereo audio wouldnt be possible.
Cool demo and great sounding desk! I kept Quadraverb, Zoom 1201, Intelliverb, Prime Time, DRP20, Rumour, LXP1, Echo Pro, RV1000, RE1000, AD190... any of those I have and will give you tons of awesomeness on a feedback loop, for cheap and without crapping out. I wish i had a good spring tho.
That's a nice set of effects David! Zoom 1201's pitch shift delay is amazing fed back into itself. Things like the echo pro and quadraverb sound bad when self-oscillated but some of the digital reverbs like Lexicon and Boss can feedback really well IF you EQ the channel to avoid nasty resonances. You can do the spring thing by getting a spring reverb tank (not pricey) and getting something that will amplify the sigal on way in. I used to use a boss eq pedal. Hope it helps!
This seems to be the real original way to make dub music. I enjoy making "dub" music like I starting from scracth in a DAW. It's easy because all the effects etc. are available withouth the need of having really a lot of hardware. However, there is something cool in that more original way, that I think is hard to reach by using a DAW. There is certain "randomness" which happens when you mix it live with analog equipment.
The sound is night and day. All in a DAW is pure digital... and hurts my ears TBH. I don’t like Dub when it’s 100% digital. This method is analogue.. sounds waaaay deeper and cleaner IMO. Like I can tell when an artist is using hardware versus just a DAW.
can I ask a question, I read on one article on setting up delays with the delay feedback on one repeat and then re sending the effect back on itself to create the long tail repeats , then ive seen other people like Adrian sherwood and others leave the effect mostly un resent and just the feedback tails up so the pedal or effect is rolling multiple delays . is there a pro and con ? or just personal taste. I prefer the delay having its own tails and feeding back as an extra layer using its own return but I wondered how you liked to set your delay feedback ?
Hey !! I got a Behringer X2442 and an RE20 Space echo. ( I don't really got the space money for a big mixing deck) maybe in the future. But anyways if I'll try the feedback loop. I get a high electric sound 😂 are there scemetics or maybe I'll do something wrong or my mixer is not really analog. I don't kno
I think that’s because your pedal is a digital model of an analogue echo, which means you get digital feedback not the analogue degradation. This is really common with pedals that are based on virtual modelling.
@@benglass3425 thanks Ben Glass !! Yeah I'll tryed a little bit with pre / post effect. And I'll get some cool results like that. ( There on my channel if you want to see ) thanks for the feedback 💪💪 keep on dubbing
I found the problem !! At the RE20 has a button on the back. I think this makes the sound wet or let a little bit treu. With the treu wet sound no problem and the sound is perfect !!
Starts saving for a mixing desk 🎧
Holy smokes batman! Some incredible sounds right there, it's great how the effects kind of multiply each other instead of just adding.
I figured out how to do a similar thing with feedback delay in my DAW but it's a narrow window of good sounds and a wide spectrum of ear piercing screeches, your setup was just oozing gold in every direction.
You gotta use a peak limiter or a compressor with a high ratio on the track you got the feedbacking effects on. I know how it is getting my ears blasted, whether I turn up the volume way too high by accident or an effect in my daw decides to suddenly feedback above 0db. One time I was using a stock flanger in Bitwig, and it feedbacked so much for some reason. Usually Bitwig prevents that from happeneding, but thankfully Bitwig turns off the sound above a certain threshold of eardrum piercing loudness. I guess it's like an automatic panic button. I wish they had a manual one though. Anyways, I cant figure out how to send a track to itself in Bitwig, so I figured the best way to get the effect is hooking up my microphone to my audio interface and put it in front of a speaker which is connected to one of the speaker outs on the interface. This method is very limiting, and stereo audio wouldnt be possible.
great video style really sets it apart from others
those feedback loops on the echo, was that technique used in old dub reggae in Jamaica?
Cool demo and great sounding desk! I kept Quadraverb, Zoom 1201, Intelliverb, Prime Time, DRP20, Rumour, LXP1, Echo Pro, RV1000, RE1000, AD190... any of those I have and will give you tons of awesomeness on a feedback loop, for cheap and without crapping out. I wish i had a good spring tho.
That's a nice set of effects David! Zoom 1201's pitch shift delay is amazing fed back into itself. Things like the echo pro and quadraverb sound bad when self-oscillated but some of the digital reverbs like Lexicon and Boss can feedback really well IF you EQ the channel to avoid nasty resonances. You can do the spring thing by getting a spring reverb tank (not pricey) and getting something that will amplify the sigal on way in. I used to use a boss eq pedal. Hope it helps!
Curious, what are your techniques in keeping the feedback under control, so it doesn't get to loud, and blow some ears?
have a limiter at the end of the effect chain... ALWAYS XD
This seems to be the real original way to make dub music. I enjoy making "dub" music like I starting from scracth in a DAW. It's easy because all the effects etc. are available withouth the need of having really a lot of hardware. However, there is something cool in that more original way, that I think is hard to reach by using a DAW. There is certain "randomness" which happens when you mix it live with analog equipment.
The sound is night and day. All in a DAW is pure digital... and hurts my ears TBH. I don’t like Dub when it’s 100% digital. This method is analogue.. sounds waaaay deeper and cleaner IMO. Like I can tell when an artist is using hardware versus just a DAW.
Interesting.
can I ask a question, I read on one article on setting up delays with the delay feedback on one repeat and then re sending the effect back on itself to create the long tail repeats , then ive seen other people like Adrian sherwood and others leave the effect mostly un resent and just the feedback tails up so the pedal or effect is rolling multiple delays . is there a pro and con ? or just personal taste. I prefer the delay having its own tails and feeding back as an extra layer using its own return but I wondered how you liked to set your delay feedback ?
Hey !! I got a Behringer X2442 and an RE20 Space echo. ( I don't really got the space money for a big mixing deck) maybe in the future. But anyways if I'll try the feedback loop. I get a high electric sound 😂 are there scemetics or maybe I'll do something wrong or my mixer is not really analog. I don't kno
I think that’s because your pedal is a digital model of an analogue echo, which means you get digital feedback not the analogue degradation. This is really common with pedals that are based on virtual modelling.
@@benglass3425 thanks Ben Glass !! Yeah I'll tryed a little bit with pre / post effect. And I'll get some cool results like that. ( There on my channel if you want to see ) thanks for the feedback 💪💪 keep on dubbing
I found the problem !!
At the RE20 has a button on the back.
I think this makes the sound wet or let a little bit treu.
With the treu wet sound no problem and the sound is perfect !!
What reverb pedal is that?? 😍
Amazing tutorials Brotha!!
Vermona Retroverb Spring Reverb
great
I can do that on my sp 404 sx :)
You have to be careful with these effects, or the feedback kills your ears
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