Many are using semi-Western now. I’ve been an Eastern grip user ever since I’ve started playing tennis. Del Potro and Federer have the best Eastern grip forehands. They are able to hit it with so much pace and drive. That’s the beauty of an Eastern grip.
The is the best analysis I’ve seen of Roger’s forehand! I’ve noticed he also sometimes follows through above his head (a bit like Rafa) when he’s pulling his forehand cross court with a lot of topspin. I’ve always wondered about his grip too, whether it was slightly further round towards semi-western than an eastern but you are, as always, spot on!
Don't look or consider as must where he ends the movement because it differs on where he wants the ball to land. So it is a consequence of his intention
Thank you for this very clear explanation. It's my pleasure to translate and summarize it for the french speakers. Pour ceux qui ne comprendraient pas l'anglais je traduis en résumant l'excellente analyse de cette vidéo. 1) La phase de préparation se fait avec une prise de raquette eastern continental c'est à dire en glissant sur le manche à 3 heures. 2) La main gauche porte la raquette et accompagne le mouvement de rotation des épaules. La main droite est détendue. 3) Le point essentiel dans le geste de coup-droit de Féderer réside dans le retard de la tête de raquette. Son poignet est extraordinairement relâché, détendu, flexible en un seul mot. Son bras est en extension au maximum AU MOMENT DE LA FRAPPE et cela lui donne une amplitude de rotation incomparable. Il garde aussi une marge pour frapper soit en accentuant la rotation en partant d'un peu plus bas ET EN REMONTANT la tête de raquette soit plutôt à plat un peu plus haut en avancant d'avantage le tamis avant d'enclencher la rotation du poignet et la fin du geste). 4) Le transfert du poids de de la jambe gauche se fait soit par un petit saut soit en glissant sur la jambe droite à partir d'un position d'attente dite "neutre". Quand on le regarde faire le geste ça paraît simple et pourtant...
Good observation on Fed's unnaturally flexible wrist. When people talk about using the Eastern forehand grip a la Federer I NEVER see this factor mentioned. It allows Fed to use the Eastern technically, but it also functions in a very Semi-western way. He gets the benefits of both with the restrictions of neither--raw power and 3500 rpms when he wants 'em.
The most intriguing aspect is how Federer utilises the Eastern grip with an open stance. I also wondered how Sampras (Eastern grip) could compete toe to toe with Agassi and always dominate courier considering their semi Western grips resulting in Sampras receiving back a much higher ball to hit which I always considered the biggest challenge /achilles heel of the Eastern grip. To me an Eastern grip was the most natural but I never found a way to compete with it in the Way I could with a Semi Western. Imagine playing Nadal and trying to counter his heavily spun shots with an Eastern forehand. To me it's inconceivable which makes Federer 's technique so interesting. Sampras and Federer also had tiny racket head sizes with high string tensions to give more control to the More open Eastern rachet face. Great video
Sampras’ forehand is way better than agassi’s. Rogers forehand is the most beautiful shot in tennis. Pete’s forehand is the 2nd most beautiful forehand and Boris becker forehand is 3rd.
Theoretically, this is one great and almost complete analysis of Fed's amazing forehand. But that said, only theoretically...but practically and in reality, it still depends on our hands and ours are never gonna be the same like Fed's. It's just too hard to do it in real playing situation. It might work a few times, but most of the times they just return back to our style rather than Fed's.
I really enjoyed your video. One comment I have since I study Roger's groundstrokes keenly, is that if you look at your video at 15:10 where you explain the weight shift, roger always rotates around his head properly. If you look at your motion at 15:10, your head slides toward the target. This is a fatal flaw that not many people recognize. One thing Roger does better than most players is that he rotates around his head (head is still) on all of his shots. Thanks for the video and all of your efforts!
@@TopTennisTrainingOfficial returns, how to place yourself on the court depending on where the opponent is serving from and how to best respond, for example, to balls coming straight to your body....(and these short of things.. 😄😊)
Very good video showing Federer forehand swing. Lots of good points in how his uses the Racket and why he has the best in forehand swing. What is messing in My view to explain his great abilities begins with his body coil which is between his hips and shoulders in his swing. Where others do not have that level to none separating range and then how he to use the build up coil to unwind with forward motion of the racket in his swing, The weaker way is the hips and shoulders are in alinement as the racket goes back and comes through the ball. A very little and low coil action in the swing. What is coil? The coil effect is created between shoulders and hips degree of separation taking racket have and bring it pass the hip. If you watch him. He as a high degree of separating which gives him better physical force in his swing. His swing where his hips are stable and shoulder go back or forward where his hips are not moving. This is an act of sensation between Shoulders and hips muscles and usage in the swing. For its control of muscles as an experience effect in the swing.. Its is so much easer to move hips and shoulder together with little separation and usage in tennis but pros separate for coil effect by using the muscles between hips and shoulders. To make shoulders soft and fluid the core/ hips have to hold the most muscle tension force sensations in mind to release the shoulder range of ability by making them fluid and soft for range, If the shoulder are tight range is limited to level of tightens. Just watch how he uses the separating factor between hips and shoulders in his game. The other part of his abilities with shoulders is his left hand and how he uses it while he plays. Look at how he has his hands open and shaping his fingers during his forearm swing. Its very good compared to other Pros for they have their hands open and they bring the racket to the ball in forehands swing but generally its now as will done. The way you shape your left hand affects the right hand abilities if want to use the whole body in your swing. Tennis player can just use the.upper body with little support of the lower body and just use one side fo the body for to swing the racket. He has a beautiful degree of separation between his hips and shoulder for rotational range to produce force in his racket as he place with Balance between left and right side.. How do you develop that separation is through training exercises that focus on making core/ hips stable and shoulders soft to separate for range differences. Just watch how will his hips are stable in his game and watch other players hit ball with unstable hips and see the much higher effort level much higher. Training to separate by making shoulder soft is areas you do not find for there is internal force focus needed. This idea comes from a Tie Chi and Qi gong point of view.
A very good and valid point, his hip-shoulder separation is almost peRFect. If you haven't done so already, please turn on the notification bell otherwise UA-cam won't let you know when we release a new video lesson. All the best Simon
@@TopTennisTrainingOfficial Thank you for reply and reinforcing the value of my points of coil separation fact that really drive force the racket. Just look at his range of separation and his torso length gives him the advantage over lot of other players. He has really develop and refine that advantage. I really like one of your video shoots where his right hip is way back but shoulder came around so far forward with the racket shows his separation range. My self I am physical core breathing trainer and how to direct core force it into movement base on purpose. I am OLD base on my Qi Gong type of training for over 40 years. Right now I am working on the shoulder rotational separation movement during the serve with focus on the left hand being pulled back movement for shoulder rotation to push the hand forward. This approach to movement of hands for rotational force comes from a Oi gong and Tie Chi exercises. The idea here is every inch the left hand is being pulled back the left shoulder side is rotating around ther by the right side of the shoulder is rotates forward pushing the hand out. This is call push and pull that generates lot of force going into the right hand base in left hand action. After release of ball the left hand is pulled back creating shoulder rotation speed. Its call in Tie chi push pull movement. It takes internal direction force to do it by making it habit so it comes very natural why it feels stronger. Someone can develops the push pull rotation shoulder action but still need to how to use it in the serve. I am about engagement of core breathing like they do in Qi Gong and Tie Chi exercises for range of movement. If you go to UA-cam and type in Qi Gong masters you see range energy forces into feet, hips, hands and head but the center is using the core force.. Its about how to direct your core energy strength into physical action base on purpose. If you do not mind I would like to get a review of my simple video when it comes out. I want to show how the left hand affects separation abilities for the left hand can limit it or enhance it. If you look at top Pros left hand action then compare to most tennis players left hand placement you will big differences. Your good at what you do and understand it very will. Here is something to look at why do top players have their left hand open in a forceful way as they hit the ball. Thanks again. Keep up the good work.
Very interesting. Thanks for your reply also, my Dad does a lot of tai-chi and loves the energy flows so I know a bit about it. I also do martial arts so can relate to the energy flows within the strike (releasing the stored energy using the exhale on the forwards phase) Send me your video link when it's done, I'd happily watch it All the best Simon
@@TopTennisTrainingOfficial I did my first video on the subject. It is Titled is "Tennis Serve mechanics explorers shoulder rotations and left hand. The next video I will go into the physical shaping of hips to get rotation range. I gave three view points for it. Just look for the OLD man and I video in room. To practice has to be slow to feel muscle tension and resistance in the movement for goal is move naturally. Thanks for replay.
@@TopTennisTrainingOfficial I just posted my first video on subject shoulder rotation. I posted three view points for one is what tennis players do that limits or stops shoulder rotation going forward. Next is suggestion for all players and last one is a method or technique you train to increase shoulder rotational speed and range base on how you pull the left hand back. My UA-cam name is "Tennis serve mechanics explores shoulder rotation and left hand". Look for the old man and I did it inside for reason to make it exercise. The goal is to feel muscle tension in range of motion which requires movement that is slow and focused. I am NO pro doing this in video. My next one is going be on the hips for they are the foundation to movement. I look for physical movement mechanics in muscle range and skeletal shaping for movement range. What is natural in movement and then develop it. Thanks and hope you enjoy.
Great analysis. I personally think Fed has a genetic predisposition for great timing, perception, and understanding of geometry, physics, and human nature. Recently my grip changes with the height of the ball, higher more Western, the lower more Eastern, with the finish dictating the amount of spin. I don't have the genius gene, but at my age still learning, and if I can play well with the young guys and find a way to win, I'm very happy. Thanks for imparting your knowledge. Hope this gives you satisfaction and that you're making a bit of dough with the channel...it's great.
This year he's hitting it a lot more like his old forehand. It's as good as I've ever seen it since the racket change. His old bag of tricks is back on that side.
Top Tennis Training - Pro Tennis Lessons , I haven’t checked so it may be redundant, but have you done a video on preferred string? I’ve been injured and I’m looking for a soft string I can use rather than the one I use now (hyperg)
Know this is late. Great video, recommended it to my brother who has a lot of trouble with his forehand. I myself have incorporated Federer's forehand, or at least a modern equivalent, into my game with mostly success, though I can't hold a candle to the GOAT obviously. I do have a comment and am interested in your take on it. at 12:00 minutes in you say he turns the wrist to impart more spin or something to that effect. I would argue and personally see it in the accompanying clip that that is a result of hitting the ball at contact below the center of the racket thereby creating a twisting moment. The racket reacts to the off center hit but the ball has left the strings at this point and has no impact on the ball flight or ball rotation. I bring this up because my brother and many others feel the need to try to add this rotation of the wrist or forearm with the idea that it imparts spin. This seems to me to introduce a situation where there is only a split second where the racket face is flush to the ball and makes it VERY difficult to time. If a ball was struck at the exact millisecond of impact with the racket face pointing down toward the ground say 30 degrees off of perpendicular, even less, the results would by obvious I would think? Meaning the ball landing a few feet in front of you... Thoughts? There are some theories about striking the ball below center, purposefully, and I can't remember what the reasoning was... Made sense at the time... Thanks again for the content, love your channel.
The angle of the strings will change a few degrees depending on the intentions of the shot, a slightly closed racket can work if you're using a low to high swing, so the racket is on an upwards path and the ball is on a downwards path and the angle of the strings increase the topspin created. We just made a lesson on it, should be out in a few weeks time
@@TopTennisTrainingOfficial That does make sense. Ascending racket, descending ball, maybe cancel themselves out to some extent. Look forward to the video! Thank you for the reply.
The thing, is he's not driving his hip forward in the neutral stance. he's balancing on his front foot and his momentum of his swing naturally brings it a little forward. I don't think he's actively driving his hips forward on the neutral stance forehand like you mention in your other videos.... thoughts?
It would depend on the direction of the shot, where he is in the court and what he'll do next. Sometimes he'll rotate fully with the hips, other times he'll stay side on for much longer and use the hop step.
My apologies for my poor English. I would like that you talked about the moviment he does with the racket when it is down, that rotates the head of the racket from right to left with his wrist.
I will try to do an analysis on the Rafa forehand too. Here is a video you might like - ua-cam.com/video/RSPbfz0dnp0/v-deo.html It's Federer's forehand vs Nadal's forehand analysis
7:45 Simon , this is exactly why I'm failing to hit shots. Even I use eastern forehand grip and at that particular moment, my strings open up and I end up hitting balls out of the court. Please tell me why that happens and how to work on it. Thanks!
If your strings open up too much, the ball will end up long. Make sure you focus on brushing up the ball for extra topspin to keep it safe Thanks for watching Any lessons you'd like to see from us in 2020? All the best Simon
Great job, coach. Can you analyze Djokovic's forehand or compare to Federer's backhand if you have time? They're all have great forehand but looks different. Thanks. Looking forward to watching your next videos.
I start with an eastern grip like Fed then point the racquet like him but I make a 180-degree turn when I hit the ball so I hit the ball but like an "Inverse Eastern" on the other side of the strings
Is there a pulling of the racket once it goes behind to the 5 o'clock position to come forward? The torquing of legs and core to pull the racket forward, make contact, then windshield wiper over shoulder or across the chest.
This is excellent, but could you please go through the different grips more slowly and with close up shots from different angles. I couldn't tell one from the other. Thank you.
Great video! I especially liked the detailed descriptions of how Federer hits heavy topspin vs flat. Everybody keeps talking about how great he is at varying spins but nobody ever describes how he does it. I am a little bit confused about one thing. You said that Federer has the greatest racquet lag in history because of his extraordinary flexibility. You then demonstrate Federer's racquet lag, with your arm and wrist extended, without any problems. Is that just because you're forcing wrist extension for the purposes of demonstrating to us? When hitting, are we supposed to purposely extend our wrists or is that position supposed to happen automatically?
jacokyle01 Thanks for the response! I think I get it now... the forward momentum causes the arm to reach that racquet lag position. Whilst other pros also have racquet lag, none can naturally reach the position Simon is showing because they are not as flexible.
Another great video thanks Simon. I have a little western in my grip on the f/hand & b/hand sides, and I adjust the path of the racquet head to get more or less spin. When I see some Pro's in slow motion -- Khachanov & Tiafoe come to mind -- an extreme western grip seems to put a lot of stress on the wrist & elbow joints. I wonder if that's going to be an issue over a long career.
Time will tell for those players but for sure you put the body under more stress than is necessary. Some of the pros get away with horrible technique due to them being great athletes. Wouldn't work for most club players for sure. Thanks for watching, All the best Simon
Well put together Simon, nice analysis only spoilt by the florian advert that seems to come on every vid I watch. I'll defo watch more vids from top tennis training.
Thank you Jonas. I'd say it's much more important to master the fundamentals: - Early preparation - Unit turn and coiling the upper body - Creating leverage in the arm and racket early in the swing - Reaching a good power position - Uncoiling the body - Racket lag - A good contact point in front of the body - A proper follow through and finish - Using the correct stance depending on the shot I always give Wawrinka's forehand as a model for early prep and having the racket set very early, plus his racket position in the back of the swing. I think Wawrinka's forehand is quite an easy model to copy. Cheers for tuning in, All the best Simon
Good analysis overall, though I would say that follow-through is a result of the proper stroke and not in itself a component. Some people make the mistake of trying to actively adjust the follow-through path instead of fixing the actual problem and letting the racket flight end where it naturally does. Also, probably good to mention the 360SW heft of Federer's racket that helps him get all that lag and plow.
I've been trying this style for soooo long and it has just help me appreciate more how good federer is .. this forehand is SUPER hard to learn .. I'm not even close to master it. Missing your shots and handling high balls can be so hard sometimes.
Handling high balls with an eastern grip would be a nice video.. not only deep moon balls but also mid court ones are especially tricky if you dont set up right. Also I find it hard how to decide when to finish your shots on your shoulder or above your head.. federer uses that over head forehand a lot, not as pronounced as nadal but he uses it very often.
A lot to unpack. I don't want in-depth analysis, I want the promise of some simple tip that will totally transform my game! JK ... thanks for this Simon, very detailed! 👍
You can’t teach Federer’s forehand with just a ‘’simple tip’’. It takes time to master and so you must look at it in-depth in order to perfect it like so. It takes time brother I hope you understand.
The video focused on the racket and arm. I really wish the analysis focused more on his use of core and kinetic chain and balance and timing, which I think is where 90% of the greatness originates from.
Hi, I've traditionally had a semi-western grip and have now been trying to switch to eastern and mimic Federer. I've tried the technique you've described for about a week now and I'm forming some serious tennis elbow. This never happened with the semi-western grip because you don't fully extend your arm on contact. Have you noticed that tennis elbow is more common with the eastern grip?
No, however, when you change technique and stress new parts of the body, certain joints or muscles, injuries or aches do tend to pop up. That's why we always use progressions in our teaching to get the body to adapt with less stress and build up from there
@@TopTennisTrainingOfficial Okay, that's good to know. I'll keep at it, but I think an issue might be that my wrists don't bend back near as far as Federer which strains my elbow to get the right angle.
Hey Simon, if one of your students were to already have a reasonably good forehand (but not an extraordinary one), would you recommend them trying to transform their stroke to make it more like Federer's and possibly risk losing their existing forehand? Or would you recommend that they stick with what they've already got?
Normally I don't encourage my students to copy a pros stroke, no need to copy how the player hits the shot. What I do encourage and work on with my students is mastering the fundamentals, many of the things I mention in this video. The early preparation, coiling the upper body, having the racket above the grip level to create leverage, creating good racket lag, tracking the ball onto the strings, having a proper follow through and finish, using a variety of stances etc Those are much more important than trying to make your shot look like Federer's.
It is strange but the body adapts over time to those extreme grips. Not the ideal way to hit a shot though for sure. Thanks for watching All the best Simon
Should the heel pad always be on the same bevel as the base knuckle? I mean for me, with eastern forehand, I like it more if the heel pad is a little lower, almost at 4 but not totally. I suppose it depends on personal preference, I can find examples on the internet for both, but I am just curious what your opinion is :)
A great question, the answer is it doesn't have to be. Many players modify their grips, the heel pad might be in a semi-western position while the index knuckle will be in an eastern position. It all depends on your own preference, as you said in your comment. Thanks for watching. Please don't forget to subscribe to the channel and turn on the notification bell so you get our newest videos as soon as we release them. All the best Simon
Im missing a key element in the explanation: Roger is playing his forehand with a loose wrist. He is performing a whipping motion. This is what gives him lots of easy power and extra spin and a great, satisfying stroke feeling.
He is also bending his arm right before contact, just by slowing down the upper arm, to accelerate even more plus getting more spin. It is a whipping motion! (See min. 13:45 of this video.)
Over time his stroke mechanics changed a little. And depending on the situation he varies his strokes. Of course he is not thinking about how to stroke, while playing, like we dont think how to walk, while walking. It comes natural.
I find it interesting that with this forehand, I can naturally hit a flat forehand and hit it really well, but I struggle to close the racket to the ground for the top spin....my hand and arm naturally has the racket lag sideways, as opposed to facing the ground, which when I do it slowly, I find it places more stress on my wrist and elbow, also feels more unnatural. I am thinking to get more top spin, go with the buggy whip finish but keep the same takeback on lag position..thoughts any one?
can you use federer strethced forehand and backhand using light raquet? I used Nadal's babolat but it hurts that made me drop the raqcuet. But If its RF 90, its not. Im also planning to get the federer raquet.
I am 13 years old and i am playing tennis kinda professionally, and i whanted to ask, my forehand is not that straight when it comes to the contact point, should it be like federer's?
I would say it's partly due to it being a habit and partly because of the way he finishes. On some forehands, he'll finish lower down and won't catch the racket. The forehands he tends to catch, he tends to finish over or close to his left shoulder and most players when they're learning the game are taught to catch the racket so that the left-hand gets out of the way and helps with the follow through.
Sounds like you need to work on improving your range of motion (flexibility) along with forehand progressions. Stay tuned, we're working on a BIG forehand course that will help you. Thanks for watching, All the best Simon
Loosen up your wrist more, start with racket face hihger than grip level, raise your elbows, and then drop the racket. You should make a decent rackethead drop that way.
Is the straight arm at point of contact a result of having the eastern forehand grip? Djokovic, Murray, Nishikori (except Nadal) all have the double bend since they have a semi western forehand grip.
I think, he keeps the head still to maintain the elasticity of the muscles. If you don't keep the head still fixed down, you will lose the elastic effects of the muscles. The Trumbling effect of the elastic.
@@TopTennisTrainingOfficial of course its for clean contact too, but if you notice he will keep the head still until he finish the swing. You can try yourself to moving the head with rotation while watching the contact (means not keeping still on point but still watching the contact), you will lose most of the Elastic muscles power. Try it .. i might be wrong, you can let me know if thats not the case
Excellent video! Do you do online tennis coaching? I have video taped my 2nd serve and I am struggling to generate power while maintaining my kick serve. Would love to get some tips from you on what I need to improve. Cheers
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i wish you ad spanish subtitles to your videos sir
My serve is also unreadable. I myself have no idea where it's going.
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Either on the t or the outside corner both unhittable. If you do get it back its gonna be an easy volley
Bravo to you, sir. That was absolutely beautiful.
HAHAHAHAHAH
One of your best analysis so far. A++
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Many are using semi-Western now. I’ve been an Eastern grip user ever since I’ve started playing tennis. Del Potro and Federer have the best Eastern grip forehands. They are able to hit it with so much pace and drive. That’s the beauty of an Eastern grip.
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The is the best analysis I’ve seen of Roger’s forehand! I’ve noticed he also sometimes follows through above his head (a bit like Rafa) when he’s pulling his forehand cross court with a lot of topspin. I’ve always wondered about his grip too, whether it was slightly further round towards semi-western than an eastern but you are, as always, spot on!
Thanks for watching Matt
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Don't look or consider as must where he ends the movement because it differs on where he wants the ball to land. So it is a consequence of his intention
Thank you for this very clear explanation. It's my pleasure to translate and summarize it for the french speakers.
Pour ceux qui ne comprendraient pas l'anglais je traduis en résumant l'excellente analyse de cette vidéo.
1) La phase de préparation se fait avec une prise de raquette eastern continental c'est à dire en glissant sur le manche à 3 heures.
2) La main gauche porte la raquette et accompagne le mouvement de rotation des épaules. La main droite est détendue.
3) Le point essentiel dans le geste de coup-droit de Féderer réside dans le retard de la tête de raquette. Son poignet est extraordinairement relâché, détendu, flexible en un seul mot. Son bras est en extension au maximum AU MOMENT DE LA FRAPPE et cela lui donne une amplitude de rotation incomparable. Il garde aussi une marge pour frapper soit en accentuant la rotation en partant d'un peu plus bas ET EN REMONTANT la tête de raquette soit plutôt à plat un peu plus haut en avancant d'avantage le tamis avant d'enclencher la rotation du poignet et la fin du geste).
4) Le transfert du poids de de la jambe gauche se fait soit par un petit saut soit en glissant sur la jambe droite à partir d'un position d'attente dite "neutre".
Quand on le regarde faire le geste ça paraît simple et pourtant...
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Good observation on Fed's unnaturally flexible wrist. When people talk about using the Eastern forehand grip a la Federer I NEVER see this factor mentioned. It allows Fed to use the Eastern technically, but it also functions in a very Semi-western way. He gets the benefits of both with the restrictions of neither--raw power and 3500 rpms when he wants 'em.
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This is the best video analysis on the (RF) forehand on the web.
You do an excellent job in all the details. Congrats!
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Best explanation I have ever heard! You guys make some of the best tennis videos out there. Thanks
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Fascinating, never seen such a detailed and clear analysis, great vid!
Thanks for watching.
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@@TopTennisTrainingOfficial Same to you, keep up the good work!
The most intriguing aspect is how Federer utilises the Eastern grip with an open stance. I also wondered how Sampras (Eastern grip) could compete toe to toe with Agassi and always dominate courier considering their semi Western grips resulting in Sampras receiving back a much higher ball to hit which I always considered the biggest challenge /achilles heel of the Eastern grip. To me an Eastern grip was the most natural but I never found a way to compete with it in the Way I could with a Semi Western. Imagine playing Nadal and trying to counter his heavily spun shots with an Eastern forehand. To me it's inconceivable which makes Federer 's technique so interesting. Sampras and Federer also had tiny racket head sizes with high string tensions to give more control to the More open Eastern rachet face. Great video
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Sampras’ forehand is way better than agassi’s. Rogers forehand is the most beautiful shot in tennis. Pete’s forehand is the 2nd most beautiful forehand and Boris becker forehand is 3rd.
extra analytic video explaining the REASONS why we should make different variations on our technique depending on the situation.
Great job
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Such a simple and effective forehand!
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It's not simple
Theoretically, this is one great and almost complete analysis of Fed's amazing forehand. But that said, only theoretically...but practically and in reality, it still depends on our hands and ours are never gonna be the same like Fed's. It's just too hard to do it in real playing situation. It might work a few times, but most of the times they just return back to our style rather than Fed's.
You don't need to copy his exact forehand but you can use the main fundamentals from it!
Complete excellent analysis of Great Federer forehand thank you
I really enjoyed your video. One comment I have since I study Roger's groundstrokes keenly, is that if you look at your video at 15:10 where you explain the weight shift, roger always rotates around his head properly. If you look at your motion at 15:10, your head slides toward the target. This is a fatal flaw that not many people recognize. One thing Roger does better than most players is that he rotates around his head (head is still) on all of his shots. Thanks for the video and all of your efforts!
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Marvelous video, always! what a clinic review! thanks for that!
Yet another great analysis Simon. Cheers. :)
Many thanks Darren, happy to hear you liked it.
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Excellent and very comprehensive video.
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Great explanation from Simon, as he always does!
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@@TopTennisTrainingOfficial returns, how to place yourself on the court depending on where the opponent is serving from and how to best respond, for example, to balls coming straight to your body....(and these short of things.. 😄😊)
this was quite thorough, good job mate
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You explained so well. It is really helpful.
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Very good video showing Federer forehand swing. Lots of good points in how his uses the Racket and why he has the best in forehand swing. What is messing in My view to explain his great abilities begins with his body coil which is between his hips and shoulders in his swing. Where others do not have that level to none separating range and then how he to use the build up coil to unwind with forward motion of the racket in his swing, The weaker way is the hips and shoulders are in alinement as the racket goes back and comes through the ball. A very little and low coil action in the swing.
What is coil? The coil effect is created between shoulders and hips degree of separation taking racket have and bring it pass the hip. If you watch him. He as a high degree of separating which gives him better physical force in his swing. His swing where his hips are stable and shoulder go back or forward where his hips are not moving. This is an act of sensation between Shoulders and hips muscles and usage in the swing. For its control of muscles as an experience effect in the swing.. Its is so much easer to move hips and shoulder together with little separation and usage in tennis but pros separate for coil effect by using the muscles between hips and shoulders. To make shoulders soft and fluid the core/ hips have to hold the most muscle tension force sensations in mind to release the shoulder range of ability by making them fluid and soft for range, If the shoulder are tight range is limited to level of tightens.
Just watch how he uses the separating factor between hips and shoulders in his game. The other part of his abilities with shoulders is his left hand and how he uses it while he plays. Look at how he has his hands open and shaping his fingers during his forearm swing. Its very good compared to other Pros for they have their hands open and they bring the racket to the ball in forehands swing but generally its now as will done. The way you shape your left hand affects the right hand abilities if want to use the whole body in your swing. Tennis player can just use the.upper body with little support of the lower body and just use one side fo the body for to swing the racket. He has a beautiful degree of separation between his hips and shoulder for rotational range to produce force in his racket as he place with Balance between left and right side..
How do you develop that separation is through training exercises that focus on making core/ hips stable and shoulders soft to separate for range differences. Just watch how will his hips are stable in his game and watch other players hit ball with unstable hips and see the much higher effort level much higher. Training to separate by making shoulder soft is areas you do not find for there is internal force focus needed. This idea comes from a Tie Chi and Qi gong point of view.
A very good and valid point, his hip-shoulder separation is almost peRFect.
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@@TopTennisTrainingOfficial Thank you for reply and reinforcing the value of my points of coil separation fact that really drive force the racket. Just look at his range of separation and his torso length gives him the advantage over lot of other players. He has really develop and refine that advantage. I really like one of your video shoots where his right hip is way back but shoulder came around so far forward with the racket shows his separation range.
My self I am physical core breathing trainer and how to direct core force it into movement base on purpose. I am OLD base on my Qi Gong type of training for over 40 years. Right now I am working on the shoulder rotational separation movement during the serve with focus on the left hand being pulled back movement for shoulder rotation to push the hand forward.
This approach to movement of hands for rotational force comes from a Oi gong and Tie Chi exercises. The idea here is every inch the left hand is being pulled back the left shoulder side is rotating around ther by the right side of the shoulder is rotates forward pushing the hand out. This is call push and pull that generates lot of force going into the right hand base in left hand action. After release of ball the left hand is pulled back creating shoulder rotation speed.
Its call in Tie chi push pull movement. It takes internal direction force to do it by making it habit so it comes very natural why it feels stronger. Someone can develops the push pull rotation shoulder action but still need to how to use it in the serve.
I am about engagement of core breathing like they do in Qi Gong and Tie Chi exercises for range of movement. If you go to UA-cam and type in Qi Gong masters you see range energy forces into feet, hips, hands and head but the center is using the core force.. Its about how to direct your core energy strength into physical action base on purpose.
If you do not mind I would like to get a review of my simple video when it comes out. I want to show how the left hand affects separation abilities for the left hand can limit it or enhance it. If you look at top Pros left hand action then compare to most tennis players left hand placement you will big differences.
Your good at what you do and understand it very will. Here is something to look at why do top players have their left hand open in a forceful way as they hit the ball. Thanks again. Keep up the good work.
Very interesting.
Thanks for your reply also, my Dad does a lot of tai-chi and loves the energy flows so I know a bit about it.
I also do martial arts so can relate to the energy flows within the strike (releasing the stored energy using the exhale on the forwards phase)
Send me your video link when it's done, I'd happily watch it
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@@TopTennisTrainingOfficial I did my first video on the subject. It is Titled is "Tennis Serve mechanics explorers shoulder rotations and left hand. The next video I will go into the physical shaping of hips to get rotation range. I gave three view points for it. Just look for the OLD man and I video in room. To practice has to be slow to feel muscle tension and resistance in the movement for goal is move naturally. Thanks for replay.
@@TopTennisTrainingOfficial I just posted my first video on subject shoulder rotation. I posted three view points for one is what tennis players do that limits or stops shoulder rotation going forward. Next is suggestion for all players and last one is a method or technique you train to increase shoulder rotational speed and range base on how you pull the left hand back. My UA-cam name is "Tennis serve mechanics explores shoulder rotation and left hand". Look for the old man and I did it inside for reason to make it exercise. The goal is to feel muscle tension in range of motion which requires movement that is slow and focused. I am NO pro doing this in video. My next one is going be on the hips for they are the foundation to movement. I look for physical movement mechanics in muscle range and skeletal shaping for movement range. What is natural in movement and then develop it. Thanks and hope you enjoy.
that 2nd forehand was extremely satisfying
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Great analysis. I personally think Fed has a genetic predisposition for great timing, perception, and understanding of geometry, physics, and human nature. Recently my grip changes with the height of the ball, higher more Western, the lower more Eastern, with the finish dictating the amount of spin. I don't have the genius gene, but at my age still learning, and if I can play well with the young guys and find a way to win, I'm very happy. Thanks for imparting your knowledge. Hope this gives you satisfaction and that you're making a bit of dough with the channel...it's great.
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Federer is gifted no doubt, however his off-court training under Pierre Paganini is genius.
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Great analysis Simon!
Many thanks 🙏
This year he's hitting it a lot more like his old forehand. It's as good as I've ever seen it since the racket change. His old bag of tricks is back on that side.
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As a highschooler who uses an eastern grip, federers forehand is my favourite stroke to copy
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Awesome video!! Congrats from Brazil. You are amazing. Great channel
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Where is the "Awesome" button when you need it? Excellent analysis Simon as always. Cheers!
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@@TopTennisTrainingOfficial Would love to hear analysis of single strategies of the pros like Nadal vs Roger a little more. Cheers!
Very well detailed explanation. Thanks a lot!
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The most talented tennis player with the best technique ever.
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Know this is late. Great video, recommended it to my brother who has a lot of trouble with his forehand. I myself have incorporated Federer's forehand, or at least a modern equivalent, into my game with mostly success, though I can't hold a candle to the GOAT obviously. I do have a comment and am interested in your take on it. at 12:00 minutes in you say he turns the wrist to impart more spin or something to that effect. I would argue and personally see it in the accompanying clip that that is a result of hitting the ball at contact below the center of the racket thereby creating a twisting moment. The racket reacts to the off center hit but the ball has left the strings at this point and has no impact on the ball flight or ball rotation. I bring this up because my brother and many others feel the need to try to add this rotation of the wrist or forearm with the idea that it imparts spin. This seems to me to introduce a situation where there is only a split second where the racket face is flush to the ball and makes it VERY difficult to time. If a ball was struck at the exact millisecond of impact with the racket face pointing down toward the ground say 30 degrees off of perpendicular, even less, the results would by obvious I would think? Meaning the ball landing a few feet in front of you... Thoughts? There are some theories about striking the ball below center, purposefully, and I can't remember what the reasoning was... Made sense at the time...
Thanks again for the content, love your channel.
The angle of the strings will change a few degrees depending on the intentions of the shot, a slightly closed racket can work if you're using a low to high swing, so the racket is on an upwards path and the ball is on a downwards path and the angle of the strings increase the topspin created.
We just made a lesson on it, should be out in a few weeks time
@@TopTennisTrainingOfficial That does make sense. Ascending racket, descending ball, maybe cancel themselves out to some extent. Look forward to the video! Thank you for the reply.
The thing, is he's not driving his hip forward in the neutral stance. he's balancing on his front foot and his momentum of his swing naturally brings it a little forward. I don't think he's actively driving his hips forward on the neutral stance forehand like you mention in your other videos.... thoughts?
It would depend on the direction of the shot, where he is in the court and what he'll do next.
Sometimes he'll rotate fully with the hips, other times he'll stay side on for much longer and use the hop step.
wonderful analisys !! thanks a lot !
Great breakdowns of the steps! Thanks Simon, particularly the various follow through depending on the intentions
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Do you have a video explaining the different finishes too: over the shoulder, across the chest and down by the waist?
Yes, inside our forehand course on our website we cover each finish and when to use them
Well analysis 👏
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what about Fognini's FH ? It seems to me that he is quite different from RF's one but very dangerous (for opponents) .
My apologies for my poor English. I would like that you talked about the moviment he does with the racket when it is down, that rotates the head of the racket from right to left with his wrist.
Supination of the arm and the wrist cocking back
Hi Simon, great video as always. Can you please do one on Justine henin's backhand ,it would be much appreciated
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When watching Federer, it seems so easy. I think that's what makes him such a great player. :)
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@@TopTennisTrainingOfficial Idk but could you do an analysis on steffi graf's forehand or ivanovic's or maybe serena serve?
Could you do one on rafa as well?
I will try to do an analysis on the Rafa forehand too.
Here is a video you might like - ua-cam.com/video/RSPbfz0dnp0/v-deo.html
It's Federer's forehand vs Nadal's forehand analysis
Thanks for the suggestion
7:45 Simon , this is exactly why I'm failing to hit shots. Even I use eastern forehand grip and at that particular moment, my strings open up and I end up hitting balls out of the court. Please tell me why that happens and how to work on it. Thanks!
If your strings open up too much, the ball will end up long.
Make sure you focus on brushing up the ball for extra topspin to keep it safe
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Great job, coach. Can you analyze Djokovic's forehand or compare to Federer's backhand if you have time? They're all have great forehand but looks different. Thanks. Looking forward to watching your next videos.
Stay tuned Viet, we're working on many more forehand videos as we speak.
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Nice analysis
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I start with an eastern grip like Fed then point the racquet like him but I make a 180-degree turn when I hit the ball so I hit the ball but like an "Inverse Eastern" on the other side of the strings
As in eastern forehand grip but the back of the hand facing the ball?
@@TopTennisTrainingOfficial exactly, if you see my contact point my grip will turn from bevel 3 to bevel 7-8
Is there a pulling of the racket once it goes behind to the 5 o'clock position to come forward? The torquing of legs and core to pull the racket forward, make contact, then windshield wiper over shoulder or across the chest.
The forward phase starts with the uncoiling of the body, that means the trunk unloading
This is excellent, but could you please go through the different grips more slowly and with close up shots from different angles. I couldn't tell one from the other. Thank you.
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Great video! I especially liked the detailed descriptions of how Federer hits heavy topspin vs flat. Everybody keeps talking about how great he is at varying spins but nobody ever describes how he does it.
I am a little bit confused about one thing. You said that Federer has the greatest racquet lag in history because of his extraordinary flexibility. You then demonstrate Federer's racquet lag, with your arm and wrist extended, without any problems. Is that just because you're forcing wrist extension for the purposes of demonstrating to us? When hitting, are we supposed to purposely extend our wrists or is that position supposed to happen automatically?
jacokyle01 Thanks for the response! I think I get it now... the forward momentum causes the arm to reach that racquet lag position. Whilst other pros also have racquet lag, none can naturally reach the position Simon is showing because they are not as flexible.
Another great video thanks Simon. I have a little western in my grip on the f/hand & b/hand sides, and I adjust the path of the racquet head to get more or less spin. When I see some Pro's in slow motion -- Khachanov & Tiafoe come to mind -- an extreme western grip seems to put a lot of stress on the wrist & elbow joints.
I wonder if that's going to be an issue over a long career.
Time will tell for those players but for sure you put the body under more stress than is necessary.
Some of the pros get away with horrible technique due to them being great athletes.
Wouldn't work for most club players for sure.
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Well put together Simon, nice analysis only spoilt by the florian advert that seems to come on every vid I watch. I'll defo watch more vids from top tennis training.
What a great video.. PhD in technique
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Great analysis!
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Great stuff, Simon! Would you say it is a good idea to try and emulate Federer's forehand or are there better players to copy for simplicity's sake?
Thank you Jonas.
I'd say it's much more important to master the fundamentals:
- Early preparation
- Unit turn and coiling the upper body
- Creating leverage in the arm and racket early in the swing
- Reaching a good power position
- Uncoiling the body
- Racket lag
- A good contact point in front of the body
- A proper follow through and finish
- Using the correct stance depending on the shot
I always give Wawrinka's forehand as a model for early prep and having the racket set very early, plus his racket position in the back of the swing.
I think Wawrinka's forehand is quite an easy model to copy.
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Good analysis overall, though I would say that follow-through is a result of the proper stroke and not in itself a component. Some people make the mistake of trying to actively adjust the follow-through path instead of fixing the actual problem and letting the racket flight end where it naturally does. Also, probably good to mention the 360SW heft of Federer's racket that helps him get all that lag and plow.
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@@TopTennisTrainingOfficial One lesson topic that interests me is Federer forehand handling a tall big spin crosscourt ball.
federer’s SW is around 340, not 360!
I've been trying this style for soooo long and it has just help me appreciate more how good federer is .. this forehand is SUPER hard to learn .. I'm not even close to master it. Missing your shots and handling high balls can be so hard sometimes.
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Handling high balls with an eastern grip would be a nice video.. not only deep moon balls but also mid court ones are especially tricky if you dont set up right. Also I find it hard how to decide when to finish your shots on your shoulder or above your head.. federer uses that over head forehand a lot, not as pronounced as nadal but he uses it very often.
A lot to unpack. I don't want in-depth analysis, I want the promise of some simple tip that will totally transform my game! JK ... thanks for this Simon, very detailed! 👍
You can’t teach Federer’s forehand with just a ‘’simple tip’’. It takes time to master and so you must look at it in-depth in order to perfect it like so. It takes time brother I hope you understand.
The video focused on the racket and arm. I really wish the analysis focused more on his use of core and kinetic chain and balance and timing, which I think is where 90% of the greatness originates from.
Maybe you can make a video on those points?
Best breakdown, thank u!!
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Great video!
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If using a more stiff racket like Babolat Pure Strike, does one need to change the forehand swing pattern?
I don't think so.
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Which makes the ball go faster? More body speed or a faster left arm?
Racket head speed makes the ball go faster.
Whatever gives you more RHS, gives you more power
Hi, I've traditionally had a semi-western grip and have now been trying to switch to eastern and mimic Federer. I've tried the technique you've described for about a week now and I'm forming some serious tennis elbow. This never happened with the semi-western grip because you don't fully extend your arm on contact. Have you noticed that tennis elbow is more common with the eastern grip?
No, however, when you change technique and stress new parts of the body, certain joints or muscles, injuries or aches do tend to pop up.
That's why we always use progressions in our teaching to get the body to adapt with less stress and build up from there
@@TopTennisTrainingOfficial Okay, that's good to know. I'll keep at it, but I think an issue might be that my wrists don't bend back near as far as Federer which strains my elbow to get the right angle.
Great analysis but good god, could there be any more ads in this? Most ads I've seen in any single video.
Sorry about that
How many popped up?
Google seems to be catching up for lost ads
Hey Simon, if one of your students were to already have a reasonably good forehand (but not an extraordinary one), would you recommend them trying to transform their stroke to make it more like Federer's and possibly risk losing their existing forehand? Or would you recommend that they stick with what they've already got?
Normally I don't encourage my students to copy a pros stroke, no need to copy how the player hits the shot. What I do encourage and work on with my students is mastering the fundamentals, many of the things I mention in this video. The early preparation, coiling the upper body, having the racket above the grip level to create leverage, creating good racket lag, tracking the ball onto the strings, having a proper follow through and finish, using a variety of stances etc
Those are much more important than trying to make your shot look like Federer's.
@@TopTennisTrainingOfficial Ahhh I see! Thanks a lot.
Good video alltho you forgot the buggy whip finish hehe.
Yes, you're right, however unlike Nadal it's not one of Federer's main finishes.
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Simon can u plz make a video of how to play on clay of u not use to it cuz I play well in hard court or grass but I really struggled on clay.
How do you compare Federer's forehand to tsisipas forehand. And maybe Tsisipas forehand analysis.
Awesome video.
Can you do one for DelPo’s forehand 🙏🏽
Thank you Pablo,
I'll try to film a Del Potro analysis.
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Does Federer close the racquet so the strings are facing the ground (for more spin) with his wrist or solely with the shoulder?
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The Forehand at 1:47 : How can he even touch the ball ? This kind of grip will always be a mystery for me...
It is strange but the body adapts over time to those extreme grips.
Not the ideal way to hit a shot though for sure.
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Should the heel pad always be on the same bevel as the base knuckle? I mean for me, with eastern forehand, I like it more if the heel pad is a little lower, almost at 4 but not totally. I suppose it depends on personal preference, I can find examples on the internet for both, but I am just curious what your opinion is :)
A great question, the answer is it doesn't have to be. Many players modify their grips, the heel pad might be in a semi-western position while the index knuckle will be in an eastern position.
It all depends on your own preference, as you said in your comment.
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Im missing a key element in the explanation: Roger is playing his forehand with a loose wrist. He is performing a whipping motion. This is what gives him lots of easy power and extra spin and a great, satisfying stroke feeling.
He might even use his wrist actively just before and during contact to accelerate and for extra spin.
He is also bending his arm right before contact, just by slowing down the upper arm, to accelerate even more plus getting more spin. It is a whipping motion! (See min. 13:45 of this video.)
Over time his stroke mechanics changed a little. And depending on the situation he varies his strokes. Of course he is not thinking about how to stroke, while playing, like we dont think how to walk, while walking. It comes natural.
Maybe you should make a lesson on your ideas 👍
Is Roger Federer forehand forehan grip a pure eastern level 3 or 3.5 an hybrid between eastern and semi western?¿
Pure eastern
@@TopTennisTrainingOfficial which forehand grip would You recommend the most for today's game if You want to become pro eastern or semi western?¿
13:46 Ah, that sound
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I find it interesting that with this forehand, I can naturally hit a flat forehand and hit it really well, but I struggle to close the racket to the ground for the top spin....my hand and arm naturally has the racket lag sideways, as opposed to facing the ground, which when I do it slowly, I find it places more stress on my wrist and elbow, also feels more unnatural. I am thinking to get more top spin, go with the buggy whip finish but keep the same takeback on lag position..thoughts any one?
can you use federer strethced forehand and backhand using light raquet?
I used Nadal's babolat but it hurts that made me drop the raqcuet.
But If its RF 90, its not.
Im also planning to get the federer raquet.
I am 13 years old and i am playing tennis kinda professionally, and i whanted to ask, my forehand is not that straight when it comes to the contact point, should it be like federer's?
Or more racket lag?
Racket head speed makes the ball go faster.
Whatever gives you more RHS, gives you more power
Great vid. Simon! May I ask you, was your racquet strung with Head Lynx Edge in this video? Thank you in advance!
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The blue string is big banger blue.
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Can you do one on tsitipas
Wondering why Federer catches his racket with his left hand sometimes and sometimes he doesn’t?
I would say it's partly due to it being a habit and partly because of the way he finishes. On some forehands, he'll finish lower down and won't catch the racket. The forehands he tends to catch, he tends to finish over or close to his left shoulder and most players when they're learning the game are taught to catch the racket so that the left-hand gets out of the way and helps with the follow through.
I got problem with hitting spin on my forehand. I am relaxed but i just can't drop my racket because my forearm tight a lot and make pressure
Sounds like you need to work on improving your range of motion (flexibility) along with forehand progressions. Stay tuned, we're working on a BIG forehand course that will help you.
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Loosen up your wrist more, start with racket face hihger than grip level, raise your elbows, and then drop the racket. You should make a decent rackethead drop that way.
@@TopTennisTrainingOfficial yes i have a problem with my flexibility(range of motion) but how to fix that problem?
A good stretching routine would help along with a few other exercises/drills.
Stay tuned.
@@TopTennisTrainingOfficial Can you make a video of these exercises(stretching) which i can do please?
Out of curiosity, for the most part should you always pat the dog?
Hey great video. Is it bad if I copy this forehand?
Copy the fundamentals and you’ll be fine 👍 many players try to copy the players swing which causes many problems
@@TopTennisTrainingOfficial Thank you very much. Understand no one can be like Federer XD
Is the straight arm at point of contact a result of having the eastern forehand grip?
Djokovic, Murray, Nishikori (except Nadal) all have the double bend since they have a semi western forehand grip.
eastern alone doesn't cause a straight arm. it's his racquet pathing that requires it.
I think, he keeps the head still to maintain the elasticity of the muscles. If you don't keep the head still fixed down, you will lose the elastic effects of the muscles. The Trumbling effect of the elastic.
What about making a clean contact?
@@TopTennisTrainingOfficial of course its for clean contact too, but if you notice he will keep the head still until he finish the swing. You can try yourself to moving the head with rotation while watching the contact (means not keeping still on point but still watching the contact), you will lose most of the Elastic muscles power. Try it .. i might be wrong, you can let me know if thats not the case
Roger the goat
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10:17 spin or flat
Yep 👍
very good, could you put the subtitles in Spanish? there are many of us who follow them in Spanish
Excellent video! Do you do online tennis coaching? I have video taped my 2nd serve and I am struggling to generate power while maintaining my kick serve. Would love to get some tips from you on what I need to improve. Cheers
It's something we're working on doing very soon.
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What about his left hand?
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I'm trying this forehand but I keep hitting the frame. What might I be doing wrong?
Sounds like you're not tracking the ball all the way.
Check out this lesson - ua-cam.com/video/kK769DLhv8s/v-deo.html
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