Bankroll? Live $1/$2 Poker Coaching Crash Course EP07 from Detroit Poker

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  • @FriendlyNoob
    @FriendlyNoob 5 років тому +4

    As an amateur/recreational player who is break even/slight win at the $1/$2 NL game, I cannot thank you enough for these videos. I wish I would have watched them sooner. Thank you for the "down to earth and no nonsense" way you present this material.

  • @georgebordi8986
    @georgebordi8986 5 років тому +12

    Poker is my hobby. And sometimes it pays me instead of cost me like other hobbys! Lol. Great vlogs!

  • @EL1T3xREC0N
    @EL1T3xREC0N 5 років тому +1

    I was on bad tilt the past few weeks. Always been down bad at cash games, but had some success at tournaments and house games. Just started playing 1-2 3 weeks ago and was down $400 after two sessions. I know I’m better that, but knew I was getting away from the fundamentals. After watching your series, I said screw it, got $300 out of the atm and headed to the casino. Followed your tips and played with the fundamentals... tight and aggressive.
    Left the casino with $600. Thanks for the tips man. You do a great job, keep up the great work.

  • @jefftomer2229
    @jefftomer2229 5 років тому +1

    2:02 - 3:05 If you’re just starting your path of playing good (perfect?) poker and are able to not focus on results.
    3:37 - 3:52 Once you are playing good poker.
    Believe the man, it’s some of the best advice you’ll get for starting off. Brian, thanks for another great video.

  • @danieljohansen8069
    @danieljohansen8069 3 роки тому

    I never put more than 1% of my bankroll on any tourney or cash game to protect myself against variance. This idea has really helped me improve my game and allowed my to be way more confident and would recommend others to do the same. Cheers!

  • @liamhalliday8437
    @liamhalliday8437 5 років тому +2

    This is a really enjoyable series even for a more seasoned player. Thanks for it and keep up the good work.

  • @debaser7514
    @debaser7514 2 роки тому

    I think this video is great. $200 and add-on is great advice. Used it myself - as a Rec player just wanting to try the game live!

  • @dannfish
    @dannfish 5 років тому +2

    Another great video, I even watched this one before Marle's newest video so you have that going for your channel. Good point about playing with scared money that is not the the way to consistently win any money at all.

  • @michaelmoore8126
    @michaelmoore8126 4 роки тому +2

    I think you're right on. I know I took a leap I quit my job and now just play so far doing well. You are helpful. I played at jacks in Cincinnati last night. 1/3 got in with 300 played a HR and half cashed out 995.00 last week I played at jacks 1/3 300 buy in. Played 4. Hrs cashed 1340.00 before that I lost the last four nights I played. It was your videos that really helped. Take care

  • @theejayzeeable
    @theejayzeeable 5 років тому +9

    Realistically, IMO people shouldn't be thinking of supporting themselves from poker until they grind up a bankroll up to, say, about 50k. This leaves thinking about supporting yourself playing 1/2 out of the equation because you'll have already graduated to 2/5 long before you reach that 50k, and by reaching that 50k, you'll have PROVEN that you're a sufficient long-term winner. Before that time comes, just look at poker as a side job.

  • @Rll34
    @Rll34 5 років тому +1

    Liked the bankroll/life roll
    Would say you need 30k cash liquid before you think about leaving the workforce
    20k life roll and 10k for poker.... it’s a lot but if you burn through it and pivot back to work you’ll need another little bit to soften the landing. Poker is insane nuts you can dust off cash quick when your flopped straights don’t hold or a boat sends your flush sailing on the river.... it’s brutal and ice cold

  • @mackmeter
    @mackmeter 5 років тому +1

    Thanks for taking the time to put these together. I'd have to say this one had the least impact for me, as I have a job and treat poker more like a hobby. But, a hobby that I'd like to earn more in. Maybe it becomes a side hustle?

  • @MC-gj8fg
    @MC-gj8fg 5 років тому +3

    I completely agree that poker shouldn't be what you do for a living. Do it for fun. Most people pay to pursue their leisure activities. Nothing better than actually making some scratch while having a good time. Not only is playing exclusively very stressful and takes the fun out of the game ( I know, having done it 10-15 years ago) but even at 1/2 its a tougher game now. Most 1/2 players are bad by today's standards, but they aren't the pure ATMs that they were prior to around 2010. More or less gone are the days when it wasn't uncommon to cash out for 3x, 4x, even 5x your max buyin. In 2018, after rake and tips, I averaged 7 bb/ hour. Were it my job I'd find more stability (and benefits for that matter) applying at micky Ds.

    • @MC-gj8fg
      @MC-gj8fg 5 років тому

      @@detroitpoker7894 I'm a far better player now than I was when I was more profitable back in the day in fact. That's not to say my play is anywhere near perfect now of course. It's always a work in progess and I truly believe in the 'ol 11th Commandment, "thou shall not bullshit thyself."
      In my case, arguably my biggest leak is a failure to go after thin value. Too often I figure I'm unlikely to get called by worse and only get 2 streets of value. Especially with hands such as AJ and an A flops. A guy at 1-2 might have just flatted AK or even flatted A-rag and draw out with some rando 2pair. In spots like this, or when the board starts getting too connected, I'm often only finding 2 streets.

  • @josephutz9498
    @josephutz9498 5 років тому +1

    Another great video Brian! 🤜🤛

  • @timmills5598
    @timmills5598 2 роки тому

    I love to watch your vlogs. Not trying to brag but I’ve went from 400 to 7500 since January. I have played a whole 1 session of 2/5 but everything has been 1/2-3 depending on the casino. I don’t want to have nl holdem as a primary income. I am thinking about winning approximately 15-20K before I bump up to consistent 2/5 tables. I think it’s a realistic goal, and your thoughts? Plus, I would love a meet up game sometime…

  • @fluffybunnies3111
    @fluffybunnies3111 4 роки тому +1

    When do you recommend ending a winning session? How many hours are a typical session? Great videos, I've learned a lot!

  • @howieziegler3110
    @howieziegler3110 5 років тому

    The side hustle is it. I split a contracted courier route where I put in two 60 hour weeks and then I’m free to study and play for 16 days in a row. Also, a tip I’ve given to a few guys on how to build a workable bank roll... 1) budget poker money from your income. 2) when have enough for two buy ins go put that session in. 3) after session what ever you cash out including any of the top off money you didn’t use goes into a separate “bank roll.” 4) repeat steps 1-3 until you get to 10-15 buy ins saved in the roll. 5) after 10-15 buy ins are reached begin to play all of your sessions from the “bank roll.” If you can afford it comfortably you can continue to supplement your bank roll from your primary income until you a) have proven by logging your results that you’re winning b) after a) is a ✔️ you’ll be able to shot take higher stakes and maybe fire some tournament bullets.

    • @howieziegler3110
      @howieziegler3110 5 років тому

      Detroit Poker that I do sir. And a pretty fantastic wife too that lets me do it. I was burning out working 60 hour weeks and didn’t have much time for poker at all. About 6 months ago I hired a couple drivers to take some of the workload off. Best move I ever made and my game has improved 10 fold. Sample size isn’t big enough yet to tell for sure but I might not be losing any money paying these guys because poker has made it a wash. Appreciate your vlogs and your efforts to give back to the poker community. Everyone has something they can teach, and you do a great job with your vlogs.

    • @kennydespuzeau1906
      @kennydespuzeau1906 4 роки тому

      Thank you Howie. I needed a system like that. I am going to put it in practice...

  • @Matthew-gg8ep
    @Matthew-gg8ep 5 років тому

    I think your pretty accurate on this really. For a 2/5 3/5 game $1k cap what should an ideal bankroll be really? With full time job. Thanks for all the videos and sharing your knowledge...I look forward to your reply when your free.

  • @nicholasdemetriades9154
    @nicholasdemetriades9154 3 роки тому

    Thanks! This was helpful. One year I was playing part time and working only 1-2 days /week. I made a little bit more than I would have working full time. Played poker off and on for 20+ years. My style of play is in between LAG & TAG depending on the table. My question is my 6 month living expenses are $9000 and my cash on hand is 18k. I want to play full-time and don't know whether to play 1-2, 1-3 or 2-5. My hourly win rate at 1-2 was $11.46 for 1250 hours. At 1-3 it was $19.58 for 370 hours. And at 2-5 it was $25.80 for 112 hours. How do you think I should proceed full-time without any back up more income?

  • @mranonymous2082
    @mranonymous2082 4 роки тому

    Great video man! I'm gonna subscribe. I think its awesome that you did a video on live 1/2 and on live bankroll. I haven't been able to find much content on live games. I've always been very good at poker and profitable at live 1/2 and now I'm in a position that I can start grinding a few days a week. I'm really excited to see how it goes. Any recommendation on how many hours I should play? I'm thinking 3 days a week 10 hrs a day to start. Depending on my swing each day

  • @jaredfehrens6988
    @jaredfehrens6988 5 років тому +2

    What do you recommend buying in for at a 1/3 game. Min 100 Max 500. Normally I buy in for the max but you know the crowd of 1/3 players, you’re lucky if you’re in a pot with someone that has 200. Sometimes I feel like I’m putting myself at risk by buying in for the max against these players rather than around 300. What do you think?

    • @MarcusDickeyPoker
      @MarcusDickeyPoker 5 років тому +1

      Always buy in for max. PERIOD
      If you can't buy in for the Max, you are not properly bankrolled and should move to 1/2 or lower.

  • @Samscoinsandheavymetal
    @Samscoinsandheavymetal 5 років тому +1

    This topic is so over talked about
    You’re right it’s all individualistic
    It’s all about risk of ruin
    Even your nut was only $2k/mo (I wish I was that guy) - and 6 mo is $12k, at least 20% of your nut over is needed as an emergency fund for car repairs, household repairs new clothes the dentist etccccccc
    All kinds of stuff can and will happen and people never factor in expenses that will come up whether it’s small stuff like replenishing cleaning supplies and paper towels or car washes or dog food - you’ll undoubtedly leave basic stuff that always comes up or medium level stuff like your smoke alarms expired and you have to drop a c note at Lowe’s or your transmission in your car blows or you get into an at fault accident costing you thousands
    In the northeast where the cost of living is very high my nut is $4k/month minimum with a $1600/ Mo mortgage
    I make $100k and have another 20-30k in “side hustle” - buying and selling rare coins jewelry precious metal and as you said I can just take $1-2G and go play 2/5 or take $900 to play 1/2 and have zero stress.
    I would still say you want a year plus and you want 40-50’buyins which will also serve a duel purpose as a safety net
    What you should do is measure the living expense fund
    If it starts as a year and your making money playing poker that should always be a year as your poker income should be paying your nut
    But if the 12 month fund becomes 10 then 9, 8.. when it gets to 6, it’s time to find a real job before you do experience busto
    On the flip side if you’re making more than your but you better be good at saving and increase that 12 month fund to 13, 14, 20.
    If you can’t save during upswings you’ll never succeed
    Risk of ruin is a real thing!
    You can never have too much money saved
    Recessions happen too
    Government shutdowns have huge economic impact
    These things are unpredictable and very few people plan accordingly
    At 49, I know how I thought in my 20s and 30s. Some younger people do plan ahead and have good foresight but most don’t
    With age comes wisdom
    You also made no mention of health insurance
    If you don’t have it / i.e. you aren’t married and on your wife’s insurance a legitimate decent health insurance policy is very expensive - the impotence of health insurance can not be over stated
    I would never give up my job to play poker for the benefits alone are well worth it
    But anyway Good luck everyone
    Good stuff Brian - you seem like a good guy

  • @OnlyInaWorldsoCold
    @OnlyInaWorldsoCold 4 роки тому

    Have you been down to Toledo, Hollywood casino and played in the 1-2? Just wondering how Detroit compares. I used to go to greektown every day 10 years ago. Or have you played at dollar King in temperance?

  • @hyojunchon7644
    @hyojunchon7644 3 роки тому

    Have to think about this if downswing come first then what.

  • @mannyperez3211
    @mannyperez3211 4 роки тому

    I started my bankroll with $1,000 but have been in the $700 range for months. I buy in with $150 a session and if I busy I go with $200.

  • @DanielSong39
    @DanielSong39 5 років тому +1

    And if you're JohnnieVibes, multiply that poker bankroll tenfold - higher stakes + LAG style. It's styles like that who really crush the 2-5 and 5-10 games though. But most people have to learn how to win TAG first before evolving into LAG.

    • @MikeTidman
      @MikeTidman 5 років тому +2

      It looks LAG, but it's mostly just like that old story: "knowing where to tap." Vibes doesn't take too many chances.

    • @byrkesestok
      @byrkesestok 5 років тому +1

      Don't confuse LATB Johnnie with grinder Johnnie. He plays a different game on the stream.

  • @donaldcedar7574
    @donaldcedar7574 5 років тому +3

    So if someone loses 3-5k at 1/2 then they should probably quit?

    • @nolmets9397
      @nolmets9397 4 роки тому

      Imo if your taking the plunge into playing for a living and you love 15 buy in yes you should go back to studying and coachjng

  • @richardalfaro1986
    @richardalfaro1986 4 роки тому

    Thanks

  • @JRM89
    @JRM89 5 років тому

    What is your strategy in taking shots at moving up in stakes and moving back down in stakes when you are going through a bad downswing?

  • @jaredfehrens6988
    @jaredfehrens6988 5 років тому

    Hey man I had another question. Is there anywhere you’d recommend playing online? I don’t live in NJ or Vegas, so is there anywhere that’s not super sketchy to play 1 cent 2 cent?

  • @rickcollinscollins7118
    @rickcollinscollins7118 5 років тому +1

    Very tight

  • @thomasgould8857
    @thomasgould8857 4 роки тому

    Great Advice!

  • @Evandemc
    @Evandemc 5 років тому

    What program do you use to put the font up on the screen?

  • @TheMichellemoran12
    @TheMichellemoran12 5 років тому +2

    Aspiring poker players with $1100 bankroll be like😨 you need how much to play???? He's right kids! Life comes first, poker is a sidelight! Be smart, play smart, be rolled and you will prosper.

  • @joshuawinhauer4932
    @joshuawinhauer4932 5 років тому

    What kinda job do you have or did you have before poker

    • @joshuawinhauer4932
      @joshuawinhauer4932 5 років тому

      @@detroitpoker7894 thats cool how did you get started in poker and how long did it take you to figure out FUCK I'm good at this?

  • @zekebones34
    @zekebones34 5 років тому

    I call poker my part time job, I try to get in 20-30 hours a month. I started with $600 in December of 2017 and kept track of every result to date. Instantly ran that up to 7.5k from poker and had a bankroll of 9k after adding to it. Unfortunately the wife needed a new vehicle and 6k went to that, since then I’ve been on a downswing and lost my roll. I have a 75k year a job so I’ve taken the last 2 months off. Gonna start over this weekend and grind it up. This series was good for my confidence, I’m still up 3k from poker in 2018 but was rough running set into set or boat in quads

  • @HVAC-ln4vg
    @HVAC-ln4vg 5 років тому

    I have a lot of hustles

  • @bobcraft9597
    @bobcraft9597 5 років тому

    How much is a shit-ton?

  • @stm885
    @stm885 3 роки тому

    Than when I'ma gonna play dude ;;;;;;;

  • @justinhart7172
    @justinhart7172 5 років тому

    Why don’t u play $2-5 instead of 1-2

  • @eshootziscrs2868
    @eshootziscrs2868 5 років тому +1

    Brian I love the videos but here I've got to say not so much.
    Firstly this is a series designed for $1/2 players who probably aren't winning consistently enough to even consider playing for a living.
    I really think this topic is way beyond the intention of the series.
    That said I also think your numbers are ok for an average. Obviously some of the younger players living at home with a safety net to catch them if they fail can play much lighter than a person with a family depending on them.
    The more appropriate content might be how much can you expect to.make at $1/2 and how much should you be able to lose.
    Again thanks for the videos and all the work you put into them. Even though I have mixed feelings about your improving the average player talent at the low stakes I still enjoy the videos and comments from others.

    • @MikeTidman
      @MikeTidman 5 років тому

      Poker is an emotional game. I've seen 1/2 players grind out $2500 weeks playing the rocks M T W R and then dust off $2K with the gamblers on Friday night. The game is mostly internal.

  • @HVAC-ln4vg
    @HVAC-ln4vg 5 років тому +1

    Bankroll management for 1/2... If you are worry about your bankroll to play 1/2.. You shouldn't be playing...

    • @liamhalliday8437
      @liamhalliday8437 5 років тому

      I'm not sure that's true. I earn good money in my job , but the reason I play is to determine if I can earn an hourly equivalent so I can play poker instead and give up a good career.
      It's not that I can't afford to lose £500, it's that it has an impact on my spreadsheet that ultimately reduces my hourly and makes an economic switch into poker less achievable.
      Currently poker hourly =£32 (across ~130 hours monitoring), working hourly =£42 (although this assumes no overtime, which is BS).

  • @williamklein6749
    @williamklein6749 5 років тому +1

    IMO, you can't make a decent living at $1/2. Even at 10 BB an hr., if you play 40 hours weekly that's 400 a week ( and many weeks you won't make this) . I don't think you can pay Social Security, Medicare, health insurance, rent, keep a car running, food etc. out of $ 400 a week. Perhaps you can if you rent a cheap room or have a significant other that covers most of your nut. But that is a suck life. You may think you will play $1/2 and move up to $ 2/5. A very few people can do this. But most lose and go back to $ 1/2.
    My suggestion, if you are young, is to take the time you would spend at poker and educate yourself. Be an plumber, accountant etc. Don't waste school on crap courses - get schooled on a profession you can turn into your own business. Then when you have a life, play poker as a hobby. Most all professional poker players go broke several times in their adult life. Don't go that way. Educate yourself and treat poker like many folks treat golf.

    • @williamklein6749
      @williamklein6749 5 років тому +1

      @@detroitpoker7894 My math above was wrong. I meant to the best players make 10 bb but that isn't realistic for most. I play in Las Vegas and very few players I see are winning players. The who do win don't win at $20 an hour except for a very few. Perhaps it's the location.

    • @stevemilewski5058
      @stevemilewski5058 5 років тому

      I've been to Vegas 4 times now, and have found the games to either be really tough (at either 1/2 or 2/5), or absolutely amazing (maniacs or soft). It just depends on the table lineup. I've been to Detroit about 10 times on weekends, and maybe just lucky, but have always found the games to be good. If I lived closer I would defitnetly play there more! Nice series and I will try to tune in for the live stream Wednesday...

    • @MikeTidman
      @MikeTidman 5 років тому

      Vegas used to be awesome (mid 2000's); now it's too many low limit "pros" giving no action and living in a house with 5 other gays paying $200 a month rent. Travel - most larger cities have a good game every night. Also, play more than NLHE. I swear that local PLO games are like banks with the vault door sitting open.

  • @mackmeter
    @mackmeter 5 років тому

    1st?

  • @Browncoyote
    @Browncoyote 2 роки тому

    Stand up comedian.

    • @Browncoyote
      @Browncoyote 2 роки тому

      @@detroitpoker7894 side hustles.

  • @MoeMoe-nu7vt
    @MoeMoe-nu7vt 4 роки тому

    My first time watching your channel.. are you on drugs !! Or it is just who you are

  • @wildDuces234
    @wildDuces234 5 років тому

    ok this is the first time I have to say you are flat out wrong. imho, if someone is learning the game, paycheck to paycheck... you need to get that money to play from playing small stakes poker. learn from the smallest stake and move up where u think u understand whats going on. there is just no reason to assume someone is not going to go rouge and just loose there mind in a trap as we see so often.

    • @wildDuces234
      @wildDuces234 5 років тому

      the casino is not the place to learn this game.