Pop Flash: Is Karrigan the Best Leader Ever? | ESL Pro League Review
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- Опубліковано 8 тра 2024
- After taking down NAVI s1mple, FURIA yuurih, and ENCE snappi in the ESL Pro League, FaZe are the EPL Season 15 champions. FaZe Karrigan, FaZe rain, FaZe broky, FaZe twistzz, and FaZe ropz overtook s1mple & NAVI CSGO to be ranked the best CS:GO team. FaZe Clan are now halfway to completing the Counter-Strike Intel Grand Slam after also winning IEM Katowice 2022.
In this episode of the Pop Flash Counter Strike podcast, Richard Lewis, Duncan 'Thorin' Shields, and Auguste 'Semmler' Massonnat discuss recent CSGO esports events, who the best CS:GO IGL is, the problems with the CSGO Team Liquid roster and Heroic cadiaN, why NAVI csgo won't get an era, as well the current status of teams such as Gambit CSGO, Team Liquid CSGO, ENCE CSGO, Heroic CSGO, NAVI CSGO and Movistar CSGO.
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Chapters:
0:00 How Bad Is NA?
10:30 Gambit's Problems
19:18 Team Liquid = Losers?!
33:38 Heroic Doomed?
51:26 How FaZe Became The Best In The World
1:01:30 How Good Is Karrigan?
1:07:05 How Easy For ENCE?
The Making of Karrigan + Olofmeister: Why We Almost QUIT CSGO!: • The Making of Karrigan...
The Making of Ropz: My Redemption After CHEATING Accusations: • The Making of Ropz: My...
Pop Flash: NiKo Has Dropped Off a Cliff! | ESL Pro League Review: • Pop Flash: NiKo Has Dr...
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1:02:40 How do YOU rank Karrigan among the IGL greats?
1 - Gla1ve
2 - FalleN
3 - Karrigan
@@Gustavoprf1 ah a brazilian lmaooo
@@Gustavoprf1 FalleN hasn't won a single trophy in 4 years.
@@Gustavoprf1 fallen??? In what world is he a top 3 igl?
What about Zeus, blyat?
God this is too good, the Astralis/Heroic Bloods/Crips milk toast feud talk had me creased.
Hilarious. Studied in south central LA for 4 years, had a good laugh
gla1ve won 4 majors but struggles after roster changes and meta change. But Karragan no matter what kind of situation he is in he always manages to pull it off. Karragan proved he is Best IGL. after winning ESL pro. Just look at those come backs with good clutches. he is keep improving.
give gla1ve the faze roster and he does the same easy
4 majors>0 majors. You are just a fanboy who can't understand numbers. Understandable I guess. If not for glaive, cs would be years behind what we have now. And again, faze roster is far better than what Astralis has with Fartlig and washed9x.
@@JJ_196 Huh? karrigan won 4 thropies back to back with a mouz roster way worse than the current Astralis. Gla1ve had success with ONE lineup; tailor made by... Karrigan the goat. Gla1ve is a fraud compared to karrigan and it's clear now
@@JJ_196 conjectures
Helps that gla1ve had some of the best danish players to ever do it and had a complete package to work with since he joined Astralis day 1. Inherited Karrigan’s team back in 2016. Not that gla1ve isnt a fantastic IGL but Karrigan can take scraps and make them perform to Tier 1 status
So happy to have Semmler managing tha boiz, Pop Flash & By the numbers keep me loving CSGO
This opening had me dying, I really love this trio together. Thanks for this great content
In my heart Karrigan is already the GOAT IGL. Ofc objectively youd probably have to give it to gla1ve for being a fantastic IGL in the most decorated line up of all time.
But the flamboyance per se on Karrigan's resume compared to gla1ve's is night and day. Gla1ve has had success with two line ups with one difference between them and won 4 majors with an all Danish team. Karrigan on the other hand, has been the first IGL to ever make an international line up work and a line up full of superstar players. He did create one fantastic Danish line up in TSM but ofc he didnt go all the way with them. More importantly though, he's had four, for the most part, completely different line ups, and made them all Champions. All of which he largely built the teams himself.
First FaZe lineup in early 2017 with allu, kioshima, NiKo and rain was btw the first ever majority international line up to compete for titles. Do remember that FaZe as a project of star players from different countries was a never before tested concept in team building started all the way back in 2015 and had never worked until Karrigan came along. FaZe before Karrigan was a complete waste of space. They were seen like Movistar Riders in the world back then. An alright team that can maybe take the odd map off of a good team but youd never in a million years actually expect to compete for titles and were incredibly inconsistent. Karrigan immediately comes in and makes them a very solid top 10 team that even made playoffs at the major. Then bring NiKo in for aizy and you''re already competing for titles immediately.
Then he made one of the very rare examples in CS where you construct a true superteam (with olof and Guardian), where almost everyone would be considered a superstar on any other lineup, and actually make it live up to expectations. Why do you think the Cloud9 Boston run was such a fairytale and the final is probably the most famous CS match of all time. Because they slayed the four headed dragon. The absolute fear that everyone had after their wins in New York and ELeague was never before seen and never seen since. Many teams have won back to back S Tier tournaments, but none in the fashion FaZe did. You watched New York as they humiliated both C9 and Liquid and just felt bad for the opponents as to how badly they were beaten. Now at the time, Karrigan haters would make the same argument people in football use to discredit Pep Guardiola. They've only had success with the very best players.
Well that argument died the second Karrigan took a tiny org in mousesports with chrisJ who was nearly 30, frozen who couldnt even purchase alcohol, woxic and ropz to a massive championship. He's won both with Real Madrid and Aston Villa.
That all already is incredible, and then now hes just gone and done it again. While it's not mousesports level of obscurity in the players, you take the (as Thorin said in the video) 18th, 19th and 20th best players and take them to the number one in the world where trios like s1mple, electronic, b1t or NiKo, hunter, m0nesy or even sh1ro, Ax1le, Hobbit exist. I love ropz, Twistzz and broky to the maximum but there is no way they have enough firepower for number 1 in the world unless Karrigan is using them to utmost perfection (and to give credit to them, they also fully buy into his system).
Btw, that's 13 different nationalities represented across all of his teams. With all 4 of those lineups being 100% international. That is out of this world. He's already the international GOAT IGL by far, which is a massive title btw, and if he can take this team to a major win, he's well on his way to being right next to gla1ve when you consider the way he's written his legacy. I havent even mentioned yet that hes the only IGL who can somehow use stand ins to absolute perfection on a consistent basis. This guy is out of this world
You haven't even mentioned that the TSM lineup was the only team to consistently beat Fnatic in their era. The only problem they had was that they couldn't seem to get past the semi-finals of big tournaments, but it's debatable how much of that is up to karrigan and how much to the other players. MInd you not, he didn't have a sports-psychologist when he was in the team. And it always seemed to be something psychological. It's not his fault if the org he was in couldn't support him.
And it's also the lineup he built. Sure, gla1ve took them to trophies, but outside of the international lineup success, you can't forget that he's probably the best at building lineups. gla1ve has never even built one. This Astralis is the first time where he didn't take a set core, and so far he has no success. Konfig and BlameF are no slouches, Farlig is a proper AWP-er. He now just needs the guts to tell Xyp9x to fuck off and go to the bench and find them a new player.
@@TheBelgianEmperor Yeah his TSM lineup is madly under-credited. You’re absolutely right
@@tuginwho they are underrated because they couldnt get the big wins. the perennial chokers. Glaive has basically had 1 good lineup, Karrigan has had 6 or 7 at this point.
they are defo 1a and 1b.
Considering those two one thing comes to mind: 4 major > 0 majors. But after reading what you wrote I seriously consider them very close on the very top. Very well wrote.
@@Szmajdzik thanks and you are right, 4 majors > 0 majors is still too big off a cliff to genuinely give Karrigan the nod, even though Karrigan does have quite a few things over gla1ve
”youre making everything turfwar over fuck all” got me gassed up, spot on banter on Heroic/ Cadian.
If FaZe wins the Major, correct me if I'm wrong, but won't rain, ropz, Twistzz and broky all be the first player from their respective countries to win a CS:GO Major? And will karrigan be the oldest Major winner in CS:GO?
All true. The oldest major winner was Zeus at 29, Karrigan would have done it at 32.
I thought twist won a major with liquid in 2019 maybe I’m wrong
@@n55Rob Liquid never won the Major; they had the summer Grand Slam run in 2019, went into the player break the favourites for the Major, struggled their way to the quarter finals where they got knocked out by Astralis with the surprise Vertigo pick.
Cloud9 in Boston 2018 is NA's only CS:GO Major and that roster didn't feature Twistzz :)
@@n55Rob Indeed you are. The only major any North Americans won was Boston 2018.
@@bradleyfirby648 yeah there was no canadian in that roster
Rain is Mr. Faze and that's why he is my favoruite csgo pro. I hated the narrative that jks should replace rain but he is not the most overrated rifler richard, terrible take.
the fact that there’s a lot of people saying jks should replace him, I’d say he’s underrated
well actually, now that Ive listened to what he said, he meant that rain was never an overrated rifler, never in a million years.. so we’re actually all in the same page
@@bluntforcetrauma7970 i was talking about the take richard had about how jks is overrated af and doesn't belong in a top team like faze
After Katowice the subreddit made multiple threads saying he needed to replace Rain on FaZe, that he should be in a top tier team if it isn't FaZe and people kept posting almost daily "has anyone signed him yet." In the real world, where I like to live, this is a guy who flopped at Complexity despite being one of the highest paid players in the world at that time, blamed the team for being dysfunctional as if that's an excuse to consistently not frag and he's been shelved ever since for reasons I can take an educated guess at. He peaked during his time in 100 Thieves. That was 2020.
So yes he is VERY overrated by the subreddit but that's to be expected when they're all weebs who think esports is an anime.
@@RLewisReports He did under perform on COL, that is obvious but he just showed that he can play multiple positions on the fly at a top tier event and win. What else does he need to do as of this moment to get a shot a tier 1 team?
I effin LOVE Thorin, always the best first five-minutes. Seriously always thinking what I'm thinking, keep up the awesome content guys!
I loved him too then he banned me on Twitter for no reason
thanks for getting me through the rest of my shift! good content guys!
Thoorin is so flagrant I love it
I allways wait these episodes like a little boy christmas
Can you guys make another straight away? Im fkng hooked!
the straight fire from this podcast is the joy to my day
One of the most hilarious episode! 😂😂😂 Especially the Cadian part 😂😂😂
I love the thorin's opening rants!
The bad thing about this episode is that we wont get certain parts in Best of BTN. Thats really unfortunate.
It's basically a two horse race between glaive and karrigan. I can understand the argument for either player
The intro is a banger
Another banger, liking this trio
This and BTN are my favourite csgo podcasts. Popflash is like the veggies and greens, btn is spicy take(away)s and beer
Gla1ve did win the 4 majors… with a team Karrigan built. Thorin is also saying GOAT in terms of if he had to pick an IGL for a team he was building, Karrigan while he hasn’t won a Major he has done so much with a much harder route. Gla1ve did it all in Denmark with Denmark players. No culture differences. Opposed to Karrigan who has achieved many, many things except No Major with international teams where most players don’t speak English as their first language and he’s also proven over time he can take a player who is in the worst slump and make them look amazing or winning two big tournaments with a stand in lol. Yes I love Gla1ve just like I love Karrigan and I can do the same arguments for Gla1ve because I don’t think it’s just so easy to say 1 is better then the other without really discussing it. Most people just say Gla1ve is better because he won 4 majors and Karrigan hasn’t won 1. That’s so short sided and does a disservice to both of them.
here is the short argument
gla1ve has won everything with the same 3 players, after that he has done nothing in his career note worthy
whereas karrigan has won tournements with stand ins tier 1 events, and has taken multiple teams (even with non superstar players at the time) to the top and won tier 1 events
41:59 is solid gold
Semmler fucking losing it in the first five minutes is always a sign of a great episode. I hope this one delivers.
i love the show, semmler is a great host for these two
Whenever there is a Thorin rant on karrigan it heals my heart❤️❤️❤️🥺🥺🥺
LOVE THIS TRIO
This podcast is awesome. :)
new viewer, love the content and format!
" He needs some milk" thats a goated quote from richard 42:10
No beef in the scene and niko rocking normal hair has thorin wilting into a midlife crisis. Peak content.
Love you guys
Loved the faze segments
Love these talks, like a by the numbers spin off!
Nice one guys!
you should've talked more about NIP and the future of the team. With brollan in the team and device is back, I think they can be really strong.
Device isnt back though
Love pop flash but goddamn I miss Semmler casting 🙃
Why did he leave?
@@saratchandrab4384 Isn't he casting Valorant?
@@saratchandrab4384 because people misunderstood some of his tweets on the ESL gg for all (all women league) and everyone was calling him misogynist and all sorts of shit
so he didn't leave, TO's won't hire him because they're scared of community backlash
@@Doomsday499 dont think so
I tuned back into the csgo tournaments around Katowice group stages and instantly I favoured faze and gambit. I think the lost csgo meta now is headshot percentage during sprays and taps. Headshots during sprays really show your mechanics off well, as well as the fact that headshots are soo underrated in that headshots are critical in multi kills. If you just spray one dude down you just get instantly traded. Faze and gambit also had such good trading. So often when watching faze matches I just see multiple faze deaths followed by instant trades. It’s like “oh no worries we lost 3 players in 5 seconds because somehow now it’s a 2v2 and faze has the bomb site”
Headshot percentage is also why na is trash because their games most of them only spray opponents down with no headshots during spray. Also they can’t trade. Navi and g2 are ok. Navi aim is better than G2. Navi is a lot sharper than G2 actually but Faze trades players way better than both these teams.
I think simple really knows what’s up when he said “the team that deals more damage will win.” Headshots give instant 100 damage enough said. Faze are giving more haircuts allowing them to multi frag allowing them to win 4v5 and win ecos.
What’s also not talked about is how every faze player seems to be able to pop off on a per round basis. For example, This round ropz 4K, this round Kerrigan clutch, this round broky hero awp play, this round twistzz triple haircut, this round rain double entry.
Other teams are like hunter popped off vs faze, or hades popped off on overpass on a per game basis.
I saw this is gambit however both their aim as well as their team cohesion with trading instantly dropped a lot. I feel like nafany is not doing a good enough job. But then it could also be hard for them.
Good take! Noticed aswell that Faze has started to trade much better, I also think when he said “the team that deals more damage will win.” he also meant trades, if you can come out of a trade with a man advantage you are much better off in afterplants.
The truth has been spoken.
well said
When they said "Who's working the major" felt so sad, this might be the first major I watch with music on.
great content as alwyas
Taking several lineups to or near the top is something very few igls can do.
This whole gla1ve or karrigan debate has too many facets to really fit into one little debate.
Just a couple points:
Gla1ve changed the nade meta, led the most decorated team, etc.
Karrigan can elevate practically any line-up to top 5 (or even top 1) contention. What he did with the rag-tag team of Mouseports is just mind-blowing, and of course the current Faze roster.
We can also point out the negatives, that gla1ve is struggling recently, especially with the firepower downgrades and Astralis being a shit org recently, caring about money and publicity over quality. He can't pull off those insane comebacks anymore and go off the stratbook like karrigan does.
But we also have to talk about Karrigan's issues with egotistical players like Niko and Woxic, thereby losing control. Not saying it's necessarily his fault here, but results do matter. Also I've seen lots of people here in the utopia named UA-cam comments section saying gla1ve is fraudulent or does not deserve his praise because it was karrigan's team before. The point is - did he achieve the same things? Did they used to choke massive games? Yes maybe the org hiring a sports psychologist may be a swaying part of the change, but karrigan was also there for that change.
Just my 2 pence, we're only scraping the surface of this conversation. Their skillsets are so different. Both are fucking brilliant.
Imo Karrigan's current situation on the new Faze roster doesnt say much. Having legits aimbots like twistzz and ropz (best lurker in the world imo), and super consistent rain and broky make strats less relevant. Doesnt require much in the way of tactics when your anchor trades for 2 or 3 every CT round, and your entry 1 taps the anchor every T round. We'll have to wait when teams anti-strat him, and see how Faze does.
@@HungTran-gz5em I must agree, but only to a certain extent. Karrigan did not only bring this current roster to trophies, but as I've mentioned, even the seeming confusing line-up of the old Mousesports roster.
Dupreeh was the only entry fragger to be in the top 20 (hell, mostly top 10) to be consistently there year after year. Gla1ve had a rifler that turned into the entire franchises' most consistent player and AWPer with the most MVP medals.
It's not as simple as saying one is more deserving than the other
If Karrigan Wins Major this Year.
I think he will solidify his legacy of One the Top 5 GOAT IGL.
But I agree with your take.
Best csgo show out there. Needs moar beer.
Keep them coming! Quickly becoming my favourite CSGO content!
F... EG just subbed
much love
Fok EG
Reasons to why Gambit does not go over with the fans could be their style of play is not as flashy as NaVi/G2 for example. The playstyle is tactical like Astralis 2018 but not obviously as dominant or close to their own level tactically during covid. So you are in a middleground where you don’t know what to feel and the underwhelming results does not help either when it matters
it's even deeper than that. i would go as far as to say that they're the most hated team right now, even more than heroic is, because the hatred towards heroic is at least focused mainly on cadian/the original core. but GMB is damned if they do and damned if they don't: lose a match? LMAO good to see the onliners are being put in their place!!! win the match? it was a tier3 team, whatever. there are many "reasons" and at the same time there doesn't seem to be one. nafany is a little obnoxious with his yelling? sh1ro is too thin? ax1le suddenly ghosts in an important third map? interz got flashed and couldn't kill all three Ts? can't imagine how it feels to be them, especially right now
@@gem.2674 Heroic is hated way more than Gambit/players
@@triturn8676 it doesnt seem like it to me but ok
@@gem.2674 heroic is much more hated than gambit lmao.. gambit just onliners when they lose heroic cheaters, onliners, comedian, kekw hunden cam XDDD
helping out that algorithm
YES. I can say it out loud for sure.
It's karrigan and gla1ve for me. One who can build teams from scratch (and thankfully finally found his success) and one who changed what "teamwork" could mean in CSGO (and stayed dominant at the top for years). God-tier IGLs!
these 2 legends are soo much better than anyone else that its insane #1 and #2 are close but #3 goat igl ( i don't even know who it is) is going to be far away from these 2 ; they kinda compete in their own hemisphere
@@JustAPokemonCommentingOnVideos zues karrigan and glaive in no order
Glaive could build teams as well if Astralis wouldnt pick the worst players in denmark or keep already washed players. Give glaive the faze roster and we would get another era immediately.
@@tyby2076 dont think so he still has a choice in the rosters but he kept lucky and xyp he was the one who didnt want bubszki and this astralis team definitely isnt dog shit but his t sides are horrible
@@ATS1031 It is dog shit.. You have 2 players who have very escalating k/d usually more bad maps than good. Faze has consistently good players all around. I doubt he is the one who has a say who leaves and who stays, more his org has. If it was up to him doubt he would let Magisk and dupreeh leave or zonic..
Hats off to Richard for the "He needs some milk!" reference :D
I love these three men. Comment for algorithm
Maybe I’m crazy, but I’m actually pretty high on the new liquid. Elige, Naf, and Osee are all playing good, and they seem to be on the same page in terms of how they want to play. To me it looked like they had a good formula for future success. I guess if you expected immediate success it would be disappointing though.
I agree that they need to give this team more time, like you would with G2, Vitality, etc. However, I don't think their ceiling is higher than maybe a play-offs team. I just don't see how they would beat any of the top teams. Faze, NaVi, Gambit/Players, G2, NIP, Furia, VP/Outsiders are all better than them, and I can't imagine them surpassing them. Vitality has a much higher ceiling and who knows what ENCE will do in the future.
They seem similar to Faze where they have a really good core of fraggers in EliGe, NAF and oSee, but nitr0 is just ways below karrigan as an IGL and shox can't have the performance rain does anymore. I think that this team's ceiling is getting to the semi-finals of a big tournament if the match-ups favour them. But at best they are consistently top 8, which is fine for this team, but not what you want from your best NA team.
@@TheBelgianEmperor I don't see how this Liquid has a low ceiling at all. They could have 3 top 20 players if Osee keeps up this form, and that alone puts them above many teams in terms of firepower. The only teams I would put out of reach right now would be Faze, Navi, G2, and Players.
@@caponebd7941 I agree that they have a strong fragging trio, but nitro and shox bring very little. Meanwhile teams like NIP and Furia don't have a glaring weakness in the way they do.
If EliGe, NAF and oSee can consistently have 2 out of 3 fragging against the top teams (which so far hasn't been the case), then I follow you. But apart from that, their ceiling is top 8. Not bad, but not high either. Not what I'd be aiming for with a trio like that and the funds of Liquid.
@@TheBelgianEmperor Sure Nitro and Shox aren't fraggers, but I think you're seriously selling them short. Nitro has a 0.97 rating, and Shox has a 0.95 rating so far on liquid, which is actually a huge improvement over Stewie and Grim from the previous roster.
YES!
Made my shieet work day so much better
At his peak glaive was a bit better but karrigan in terms of being able to change and adapt on top of his fun personality makes in the number one as of now
Do you guys think Heroic could transition to a FaZe style where CadiaN is the selfless entry like Karrigan? If so, who gets the AWP?
Thorin spitting fire
I think the closest you'd get to an IGL that builds (alot) teams and wins trophies with them is Daps...
Pls man, we need subtitles for thorin
... ?
@@DestinyApes it's hard for non native speakers to understand Irish/Scottish accents
Lmao
4:20 god damn i love thorin
Thoorin is a much better guest than host
good stuff
Thoorin should really cast a game or two for pgl major
This is gonna be a banger, lads!
The only IGL in the scene right now who can even challenge karrigan in the future is aleksib assuming his stars actually show up when they're supposed to. If G2 can win some big trophies it would also give him the legitimacy to eventually build his own teams and having every tier 1 player imaginable trusting his calls one hundred percent like the stars on karrigans faze are trusting him now.
For some reason I see aleski feeling the pressure of igling such a good roster and not performing. He’s been so lacklustre. Hopefully not tho would love to see Niko finally win a major :)
@@ribzyy Then we havent been watching the same games. He is a massive multiplier to the team already, but niko slumping while monesy is yet to become truly impactful and reliable awper is holding g2 back, not his IGLing. Did you not watch the first 3 epl games without him igling?
@@FreagaZ yea wit amanek? they didnt look good, obviously aleski is a great player and like i said i hope G2 succeed.
Great shoe
If I'm not mistaken, I don't think an international roster (i.e. they all speak different native languages) has ever won a major.
so who were the ones who were "fighting" maybe krelle k0nfig and kasper cadian
Thank you
pop flash is cool and also good content
Karrigan is top 3 all time.
Objectively #2 in terms of S Tier tournament wins, especially considering the number of teams he has led to said wins. Personally, he is my favorite IGL because he is not just a caller, but a leader, a commander of character.
Tons of tacticians have graced CS in the IGL role, from Gla1ve to MSL, and Alex to Stanislaw, but almost none of those guys regularly elevate their teammate's chemistry and ingame form simultaneously... Let alone whilst speaking a 2nd language.
Hope Karrigan can keep this form and team to win a Grand Slam as well as the Major this year.
Depends really. If your only going to take trophies into account than sure. But you’ve got to consider karrigan has led teams time and time again to the top of the rankings including several teams that objectively shouldn’t have been able to compete. Glaive has done it with 1 core.
Sure he is the greatest achieving igl or all time. But if your making a random team of players your going to pick karrigan to lead it over him 99-100
broky and ropz top 8 this year imo.
broky felt a little underwhelming this last final but yeah insane players. probably all 5 will be top 20 if they continue playing like this
Wasnt he the best rated player in this final?:D He was meh in semi-finals , i know that, but against Navi a.k.a best all around player s1mple , he was winning duels.
Very important episode for CadiaN to watch
Please mention him the link 😂😂😂
Semmler
lets go
Gambit by any other name play just as well.
-Some old dead dude from that island Rich is from
I’m torn, is this show better than BTN?
If its -rain only person I can see fill in for him and is AS good as him is yekindar
Or if FaZe want to go younger, they can get xertioN from Mouz NXT
*Slowly becomes a baltic team
Karrigan is a GOAT
58:50 karrigan playing fckin moneyball in the server to replace a simple
random question can Konfig be top 10 player of 2022???
No, the only year he was in was 2017 ranked 12 or something. After that nothing, even on complexity with blamef ranked top 5 on 2020.
@@zicodennisvalentino748 u know the future??he maybe if he is consistent
@@ArunKumar-bp5lo
"You know the future"?
You asked a speculative question about k0nfigs future.
"he maybe if he is consistent"
Speak again, but in english.
Thorin is funny as fuck, only watched 5 mins so far
Casuals think Glaive is the goat IGL for the majors, true Fans now this isn't true.
Everyone knows the argument with Karrigan having let 4 completely different rosters to no1.
But there is a even better one:
Astralis 2018/2019 was the goat team, no argument. They had at the time the goat (device, now of course overtaken B s1mple), the arguably best coach ever, the best clutch player (Minister) and two insane riflers. So you are telling me on top of that Glaive is the goat igl? So the Astralis prime team just had goats in all the positions?
Or maybe, just maybe, the team worked and clicked perfect together? And that's why they won so much?
Glaive has to do it at least with one more team to prove he can do it not only with one roster.
nah he still has a case, the dude found structure and tactics that fit the team's talent and went balls off, glave is as important as the other members.
They need to fire elige and hire someone who will go after solid players and not washed ass teammates
I think you mean cold fusion lol
How likely is it for Heroic to steal Snappi from ENCE and just go for something like a 2019 TL run where you don't even play the awp that much
might be wrong but was the TL no-awp thing not during one of the krieg/aug metas?
Be on the lookout for Furia, they're just getting started.
He needs some milk.... totally buckled me holy hell
Comment for the algorithm
Shit bangs
just to overtake EG ;)
Inb4 sb will say comediaN
I'll paste one of my thoughts regarding this. I don't give karrigan a lot of flak, but for me he is not the greatest as some people make him out to be. I will probably get a lot of hate for this, but it's an opinion that I feel the need to express anyways.
Karrigan is a one of the best IGLs atm, but he's not GOAT status and he has definitely underachieved relative to what he has worked with in my opinion.
Karrigan has played with more world class players than any other IGL, ranging from multiple top 20 players at the time (#2-20) and had access to the Astralis core (device, Xyp9x & dupreeh). This even includes some of the best players to ever play CS:GO. Karrigan has had god-tier lineups in the past, none of them were good enough to establish an era or be included in the top 10 lineups of all time.
When people argue that his teammates in international lineups have given him praise, with FaZe even taking him back after NiKo left, you need to add context to this. First, mouz and FaZe are both of those teams karrigan has been a part of, neither of which have ever had a dedicated proper IGL other than him. So they don't have any experience with solid IGLs other than karrigan, dexter is not established enough and is still a poor IGL imo if people bring up mouz. In the case of people bringing up the fact that FaZe took him back, replacing a decent/decidated IGL (karrigan) with a bad one (NiKo) doesn't mean that karrigan was a god level IGL.
This brings up the other point, karrigan benefits from the fact that international lineups don't have any dedicated, established IGLs outside of himself and Aleksib (and more recently, Snappi ) in the tier-1 scene. That's why FaZe took him back, that's why his teammates have said he's a good IGL to work with and that's why he keeps staying in top teams.
People having been hyping him up immensely after his team won IEM Katowice. Yes it was with a stand-in, but it was JKS, who performed exceptionally well with what he was given. Also, it came at the fact where the most dominant region and most dominant team were clearly affected by the war. Other less significant factors include broky overperforming with the tournament of his life, NiKo missing since the playoffs and G2 lacking a coach. Yet people act like karrigan was the primary reason for this incredibly narrow win (watching it was amazing nonetheless). It's also karrigan's first ever truly big trophy win (in terms of the most prestigious events which are (Kato, Cologne, Majors).
I am well aware that karrigan has had success with some of the lineups I have mentioned. But success and failure in team sports is relative to expectations, which is determined by the quality of the players in that given team. When you take this into consideration, he has definitely done poorly in some aspects.
Again, I don't think he's a bad IGL nor do I hate him. I think he's a great IGL, just not as great as other people make him out to be; especially when people have literally been trying to argue him being the GOAT IGL as of late.
42:05 hahahah except Blamef! He's thicc!
TL gotta get better before elige can really shit talk anyone
you guys are so toxic I love it
Thorin is so fake when it comes to big boi Carrygan, a year ago he would say he is washed up and needs Niko to survive but look at him now (number1 team in the world arguably) glad he getting his props tho!
Gooooodd SHittttttttt
Karrigan will make it to the major final and lose in over time again.