How Much Does It Cost To Buy A Load Of Logs For Our Sawmill? // How To Scale Logs // Buying Logs
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- Опубліковано 26 лип 2024
- How Much Does It Cost To Buy A Load Of Logs For Our Sawmill? // How To Scale Logs // Buying Logs
In this video, we share a load of logs being delivered to our property. We also share how we found the logs, when we had them cut, the cost, scaling the logs and the difference in the logging company compared to how Greg scales them and is one way better than the other?
We also share why we purchased logs, when we already have what seems like a lot. We are building a good sized barn and it is going to take a lot of logs. We also have to look at the time it takes to cut down trees on our own property, the clean up, the burning, the whole process takes quite a bit of time. Greg has a full-time job, so the projects on our property happen on his days off, so we also have to look at how is Greg's time best used. And in this case, it wasn't more logging. Purchasing logs was the better option...we think. What do you think?
***If you haven't checked out our Sawmill Cover Build from the beginning, definitely check out the playlist at the end of this video. We have shared the process of building this sawmill cover from the very beginning. We have a Woodland Mills HM130 Max sawmill and live in North Idaho. This sawmill cover / sawmill shed is vital to continue milling in the winter months, but it will also be a great way to keep out of the sun during the summer months, and of course all of the rain, in between! We are excited to complete this project, so we can continue milling lumber for our barn build.
Here are the specs on the sawmill cover / sawmill shed we are building:
3 posts in the front
4 posts in the back
Overall dimensions are 15 feet wide by 36 feet long
Longest beam is 28 feet
Front part of the lean to roof is 11'9" and back is 8'
It will have a 3 :12 pitch
Posts and beams are going to be 7 1/2" x 7 1/2"
We will be sharing the entire build!
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You always did an amazing Job! Keep it up.
Thank you so much! And, thanks for watching!
Fair price…I had a self loader for 20 years, and have a small tree farm near you…all involved were fair to you. Decent logs too
Thank you for the reassurance, Dennis. I feel like the logger that I am dealing with is a straight shooter. Just got another two loads of logs from him. 😁
I can't say if it is a good deal or not with todays prices, however if you do a careful job of cutting the lumber you should end up with an over-run. which means you will get more lumber than the scale you paid for! They are good looking logs. you should do well!
Thank you! It will be different milling logs that I’ve purchased vs “free” logs on the property. I’ll certainly be more careful to maximize the yield. Thanks for watching!
That one log 370 board foot at 170. Per log 2.17 per board foot delivered. Sounds great.
Your math is backwards. $. 062.9 per board foot.
The actual cost for that particular log would be 370 x 0.55 = $203.50 + $25 extra for trucking. The 170 in the video was just an overall average… the total cost divided by 14 logs. Hope that makes sense!
There ya go Greg, competing with the Big mills already.
Heck ya - another load of blued ponderosa coming on Friday!
@@ourdreaminthewoods We love the bettle kill TnG Rebecca put on our Cabin build, you will too. Tons of character.
@@ModernMountainLiving That sounds really pretty!
I have heard there is as much as 50% overrun with a small bandsaw mill due to savings from a smaller saw width as opposed to commercial mills. I'm curious to see how it comes out. Great educational video!
Thank you! I will be cutting these for getting the best beams and posts out of each log. Seems like I could maximize the yield by cutting more dimensional lumber, but it will be interesting to see. Thanks for the comment!
When using scribner the rule is measure length will say 33' or two 16' with 6" trim for both logs then measure small end. If small end is 12". Second log automatically get 2" jump in diameter to make a 12" 16'long log and a 14" 16' long log
Unless it is larch then you only get 1" jump this rule is only for butt logs
Well, there you go - confirmation that these were scaled correctly and that there is a "rule" for the butt log. I wasn't worried because the logger that I bought this load from has a good reputation and has been really helpful.
I'm curious...what's your background with the Scriber Scale? Thank you for commenting and clearing things up. We appreciate it!
Forth generation logger. And Eastern Washington mills use scribner. I actually pack a scale stick with me so I can explain the scale to homeowners when I haul there logs. I drive a selfloader too.
@@bradsiegel3752 That's awesome! That's a great idea, then you don't have homeowners like us wondering how they were scaled... thanks for the info. Sounds like we are neighbors, as we are in North Idaho!
What do you think about buying logs? Was it a good deal or would you use trees from your property?
Cool info about winter logs. Had no idea! 😊
Good video. I liked the information. I'm looking forward to this barn build.
@@BissellMapleFarm Thank you! I’m looking forward to the barn build, too! We still have A LOT of milling to do for it. Finishing the foundation is the first step! Are you still enjoying your sawmill?
Fun Fact…trees go dormant in the winter and that’s what makes the ring that you use to count how old the tree is!
thanks for the info. no idea if that is a fair price or not. I think I would have been happy with it.
Thank you for watching! I think I’m pretty happy with it, too!
No idea if that is a fair price or not. It sounds like it is a seller's market to do what you are wanting to do, so just getting the logs delivered at a price you are willing to pay makes it a good deal. The only way to know for sure would be to try to find several other loggers and truckers to compare. That might be a real challenge.
Do you need to worry about bugs getting under the bark and eating into the wood? In the East that can be a problem. Not sure about Western pine logs, especially if they are laying horizontal.
I think that when you consider that amount of labor that it would take to harvest those logs from your property you are probably better off purchasing. The trees that need to be removed would be fine to use since you have to remove them anyway. Trees that aren't in your way take a lot of your time, which is a finite resource. Use your time to your best advantage.
Thanks for the video
I agree with you 100%, Mike! Especially when I’m just targeting mature Doug fir trees, this seems like a good deal and use of my time. Free trees are far from free!
Doug fir seems to hold up better compared to the pine species, as far as bugs and decay. But, if I’m going to hold Doug fir logs for multiple years, I’m going to need to do more research. Thank you for watching. We always appreciate your thoughtful comments and encouragement! 😊
The USA seems to like selling everything by the board foot, up here in Canada it’s mostly weight conversion to cubic meter’s and paid by the cubic meter….
Douglas fir is approx .58 ton’s per cubic meter, a typical self loading logging truck will carry around 40 cubic meters (give or take) and the mill pays the logger depending on the market between $80-$120 per cubic meter for sawlog (4” tops) or $100-$160 per cubic meter for peelers (min 8” tops for making plywood) …. So for a full 40 ton load you’d be in the $2300usd range after converting Cdn to US $$… but that’s for bush run 4” minimum sawlogs, what you got delivered would be a premium sort so likely in the $3000 range….
I’ve seen select sorted beam logs sell at auction for twice that…
I think you got a pretty fair deal but that’s comparing here to there…. And timber prices vary wildly depending on so many factors…
Have fun cutting that up 👍
You got a few really nice ones in that pile.
That’s interesting for sure. Logger and mill alike must be happy with it and each make a profit. Seems simpler than dealing with each individual log.
Pulp mills buy wood by the ton but that’s only industry that does it around here.
Only thing I would have done differently would be getting a full load to reduce cost per log in trucking.
- he had room and weight for a few more logs
Thanks for the comments - cool to get different knowledge of how things are done.
I was paying $350.00 a thousand bf of Larch. I picked my logs up and logger loaded them on my trailer
I live in Upstate NY Cortland
Larch is our favorite tree! Doug fir and western larch are grouped together here in North Idaho. Current market price is $430-$650 a 1000mbf, so it sounds like you got a good deal, as long as you have the means to pick them up!
The money log here is western red cedar at 950-1050 a 1000mbf!!!
What are you making out of the larch?
The only way your really going to know is take your cost and divide it into the total board feet of all the logs. Then your knowing what your paying by the board foot. Longer logs will always pay more simply because there not that plentiful. If your not using the log to make a 32 ft beam order lengths to your needs, you may save that way.
I wanted to add, check and contact these people on UA-cam. Robert Milton with Hobby Hardwoods channel, Nathan with out of the woods channel, ???? Can't think of his name The log father channel, each of them purchase logs on a regular basis.
Thank you! This is great information and we will definitely check out those channels.
The logger that I bought the trees from said I could order custom lengths, so after I’m better organized with what my needs are (for the barn build), I may order custom sizes this winter.
Thanks again for the info and thanks for watching! 😊
$0.63bf is OK, imagine if you hunt around, tou can probably find some decent logs for around $400 per thousand.
Good to know, thanks for the info. 😁
Shew! Man they saw you coming, I'm glad you feel like you got a good deal, buy a chainsaw next time, Stihl 66 1500$
All about balancing time and money. I'm targeting Doug fir and beam logs. For what I paid - I'm happy with them. Thanks for watching! 😀
Nothing is worth more than the buyer is willing to pay, nor less than the seller is willing to accept. You’re happy with the deal so you got a good deal. Move on and don’t look back.
True. True. Great advice! I have another load coming tomorrow…ponderosa, this time!
If you still want logs hit me up
We are set, but thank you!