Cooper Stuff Ep. 166 - My Response to Christianity Today

[@JohnBaptist702]

Brother John, lol! It was DMX that said, “Y’all gon’ make me lose my mind!” Come on, now!

[@Dawn388]

😂 😂😂

[@ericglass1270]

I knew I wasn't the only one who knew that

[@familyfriendphotovideos4340]

Ok was about to leave the same comment lol

[@abidingewe2065]

Cooper’s oops.😆

[@MrsSn3mo]

😂

[@laurenkwarren]

These people need to listen to the stories of how Charles Spurgeon responded during Cholera. Covid wasn’t actually unprecedented when it come to the church facing sweeping illness. Only it may be unprecedented in the amount of cowardice was shown and implemented…
Spurgeon said that he would not stop visiting the sick and he said, “ If the cholera take me, so be it, but for me to live is Christ and to die is sudden glory”. I remember reading his story early in the spring 2020 and crying. My heart was just longing so deeply for our Christian leaders to lead us in this kind of faith and courage.
And now they just want to gloss over the failures with amnesty without repentance. Salvation and Gods forgiveness is not even offered without repentance. Has everyone forgotten that repentance is a part of that equation?? The gospel is free but it comes for the heart who “repents and believes”. So too, we don’t truly have reconciliation and healing in our relationships without acknowledgement of wrongs and mistakes and repentance. Otherwise trust is broken and remains broken. Whether you love someone or not.

[@dahelmang]

💯%

[@tyrentherisen]

Who else loves when John says "Bonkers"? Also, they actually got it right. We are dangerous, because we carry the truth that illuminates the darkness of the lies that society has been feeding itself. We who stand firm on the Word of God are dangerous to the world which hates God, because that Word has the power to win people from the world to God.

[@JohnBaptist702]

The unfortunate truth is that the American Christian Church may have to suffer great persecution before we take our faith in the Lord Jesus more seriously.

[@laurenkwarren]

I am really afraid you are right. 💔. It has been heart breaking to me to see how far the western church has truly fallen. I think it’s in Isaiah 1 where it says “where will you yet be struck”… I fear we’ll have to be struck much more before these people cut their ties with the world.. I’m grieved and I’m afraid for my children.

[@geebeeinga]

I’ve said this many times. Separating wheat/chaff…and it is coming very soon!

[@spartansix2323]

All who desire to live godly in Christ Jesus will suffer persecution. 2 Tim 3:12.

[@abidingewe2065]

Agreed 🙏

[@kyleobrien1990]

I had started reading this article, but stopped part way through. I definitely felt there was something off about it. We are absolutely called to forgive offense, but that doesn't mean we ask for forgiveness when standing against tyranny! As you said, we have the reciepts to show we were right! Thank you John for breaking this down, and giving us the facts! I appreciate you!

[@racharooni07]

"I do forgive these people. I just don't trust them to lead us." Same here, John. That pretty much sums it up. Thanks for your boldness.

[@MandaMaconit]

No woke cookies for you! 🍪 😅
As usual, you’re 💯 on point.

[@j96569]

Woke cookies are probably vegan, made with buckwheat flour and carob. So they can keep it.

[@Powell869]

My pastor has an illustration he uses all the time for forgiveness. If you lend someone your car, and they crash and total it. And then two weeks later asks to borrow your car again, it’s ok to say no. Just because you have forgiven someone doesn’t mean you must let them hurt you again.

[@shirleygeer5376]

Always say that forgiveness is free but reconciliation doesn't come without repentance. And that is the standard that Jesus set.

[@marshahollings]

I think the leaders should apologize to congregations all the ridiculous restrictions that were contrary to God's Word.

[@christisgreaterthanculture9255]

not only apologize but also step down from their position, admitting they dont have discernment and are not qualified to teach or lead.

[@broken927]

All of the negative consequences of forced covid mandates(lost jobs and businesses, churches shutdown, keeping kids out of school, masking , forced vaccinations, gov't tyranny, health risk of the jab,etc...) were discounted ,dismissed and ignored . The only factor considered was "If it saves just one life, it's worth it." When they ask for forgiveness they need to list the reasons they need forgiveness.

[@laurenkwarren]

Some righteous anger up in here!! 🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥

[@Starhorsepax]

I remember people insisting Jesus would've worn a mask. I replied that Jesus marched up to a leper, who the law said he had to stay a distance from due to possible contagion, and laid a hand on him. And healed him. He didn't heal first, he touched him and healed him. The early Christians did the same, helping set up the first hospitals, and risking touching the lepers in order to treat them and show compassion.

[@laurenkwarren]

The church COULD have lead the world into a spirit of REPENTANCE, but no, they are burying the idea of repentance all together… I believe there won’t really be healing or redemption until there is some major repentance up in the church.

[@spartansix2323]

I believe that throughout the book of Acts that repentance, especially within the church, precedes revival. You’re on to something there😂.

[@clairapeckham4211]

I was a youth leader during the lockdown and the insults I got because we weren't meeting in person, I'm like I thought you were a christian. Its like geez. Thanks Cooper for your talks.

[@rogerhuggettjr.7675]

I've loved your music since Alien Youth was released. I don't listen to your channel for brilliance. I listen for your zeal and energy. We live in a world that begs Switchfoot's question in The Blues, "Are there any left who haven't kissed the enemy?" We need someone that screams "THE EMPEROR HAS NO FREAKIN' CLOTHES!" You are always up for that challenge.

[@jozjonlin3170]

From the CT article: When decision-makers make decisions we think are wrong, our natural desire to hold leaders accountable should be leavened by the grace that comes from knowing how hard leadership is in a confusing and unprecedented situation. Above all, we should remember that love “keeps no record of wrongs” (1 Cor. 13:5).
Love keeping no record of wrongs is correct on a personal level, but not in regard to political leadership. Should we have employed a forgive and forget policy with Nazis in murdering 6 million Jews? No, I don't think so. The pandemic is no different. We had leaders enacting mask policies when the scientific community already had a good understanding that masking in community settings is worthless theater. There is no hiding behind the lie that they didn't know because we absolutely knew this well before the pandemic even started. The only effective measure put in place almost universally was hand sanitizer. Everything else was theater, including social distancing. The next step is to vote out any elected official affiliated with these policies. We can forgive them, but it doesn't mean we have to ever trust or listen to them ever again.

[@biblicalworldview1]

I agree with you, John. People have no humility inability to just admit when they were wrong. Sure there should be forgiveness. And they should be humble enough to ask for it.

[@laurenkwarren]

Yes!! This ☝🏻

[@gmat8202]

John, you are intelligent. Don't put yourself down. I would rather listen to your godly wisdom than any of the evangelical elites. I started fighting against the influence of denominational elites way back in 1988. There is nothing new under the sun except for the fact that more regular church people have bought into their social justice, Marxist rhetoric. I gave up on Christianity Today decades ago. Keep boldly speaking the truth. Much love to you and your family.

[@ScottJ5860]

Always remember that grocery stores believed one way aisles would slow the Covid spread. Plexi glass shields were put up in check out lines to protect shoppers from coming in contact with the cashiers who put their hands on every grocery item we were taking home and probable eating. And the best part was learning that 24 hr groceries now closing at 11 pm and opening at 6 am would slow the spread.
The infection rate among children was like below 1% yet it was still determined that must remain closed, while jobs, which promoted commerce were back to work w/in 2 months.

[@Jeremy540]

Knocked it out of the park!
Do
Not
Stop!
Love ya brother.

[@rhondacreech7866]

Accountability is missing. No healing can take place until all who pushed beyond human boundaries are faced with charges. Woke cookies trashed.

[@listentosilverfish]

It takes an abusive mindset to keep wronging people and then repeatedly tell them they need to forgive you.

[@kathleenkeane3067]

John it's all Bonkers,Bonkers,Bonkers!!! Thank you for continuing to bring the truth to all the lies.

[@brittnye_3368]

This whole video....100% agree.

[@susanschweitzer1090]

Keep. Telling the truth. John. Thank. You!!!!!!

[@pborkstrom]

Coop’ they blew it. Admittedly I have not read the CT article. But if your summary is accurate, there is low probability that anything has been learned, and a high probability that this response will be repeated for the next crisis.

[@juliegoldsmith6831]

I am with you, I do not need forgiveness from these people but their attitudes have shown me they are not who we should be listening to on Godly matters.

[@dewitttribe9143]

I just keep wondering where is the repentance of these leaders? Public repentance for public leadership. Where is that? Forgiveness is not dependent on repentance, but repentance is a prerequisite for a QUALIFIED, Godly leader.
And what do we do with leaders that are unqualified? Church, we just don’t listen to them.
So CT writer here, to the point of #CooperStuff can you just please humble yourselves before God and stop talking for a little while and meditate on your relationship with God and His Word? We do actually need MORE leaders, not less. But they MUST be qualified or they are just empty-worded and taking up space and causing additional stumbling, not unity.

[@erich7h]

Thanks John for your passion!!!!

[@penajuan46]

"I"m sure this is in the book of Revelations somewhere." lol

[@Robin-bq1zq]

This episode is 💯! 🔥 👏🏼 Thank you for this!

[@kellyanderson661]

🎯🎯🎯 Preach it!!!🔥🔥🔥 I love your passion!

[@alanmalcom6719]

John your awesome. I loved skillet for years. But you guys have knocked it out of the park.your stand for our God is so awesome. And Jens stand is so awesome too. You have gained my respect on all levels. You rock bro

[@clintd3476]

Forgiveness does not reestablish fitness for office.

[@jimmock1155]

Man! I and John are soooo different. I’m a 67 year old country redneck who plays country blues and hymns on a harmonica, BUT we are soooo similar in our spirit and beliefs! This is great! I am a new subscriber as of NOW.

[@deadbod9306]

I love that you’re talking about this . Especially at the 22:00 mark. Yes of course I’m bringing up what people said a year ago because they need to be held accountable! Especially for the kind of ramifications it had! Thanks John!

[@conservativemama3437]

First of all, your sweet daughter interview was amazing. What a testimony to great parenting! And second of all Christianity Today is a joke. Their podcast on Mars Hill was revealing.

[@treeyellow4627]

Can you post the link?

[@conservativemama3437]

ua-cam.com/video/Rdm8tSLR7zA/v-deo.html

[@elluc1317]

John, your the best…. Thank you for staying true to the word!

[@nateconklin2110]

I love your directness and willingness to speak the truth. Be prepared for UA-cam to suspend your channel when you speak truth on this specific topic. Love you and your message though!

[@bencorley8687]

Couldn't do a video on this one without being angry over it and getting off focus. Good on you Coop.

[@mhimnotthebee]

How convenient for Paul Miller to use love keeps no record of wrong. People that use that verse are usually the ones abusing their authority with others

[@roneaston5737]

How do you "use" that verse? If you DONT use that verse aren't you disobeying God?

[@theloveoflifepodcast1162]

“A cloud was on the mind of men and wailing went the weather. Yea, a sick cloud upon the soul when we were boys together.” - Chesterton

[@ColtonVanceMusic]

My brother in law went to Europe. There are no pride flags anywhere.. EXCEPT at the US Embassy... He was embarrassed, righteously angry (he is in the military) that this is the American dream he is offering his service to... "Transgender children?!" This is evil.

[@masteringfibromyalgia]

I must say, Cooper! I had no expectation how on fire for the gospel and truth of the Bible you would be today. So many "christian" artists have fallen away, and yet you, a hard core rocker, stands firm on the Rock of Truth, Jesus Christ.
"Christianity" Today left biblical truth more than 10 years ago. I am
not so surprised how they are behaving today. They have represented the so far left liberal "christian" for so long, I would say possibly influenced false doctrine into the church by making it seem normal.
So much has disappointed me over the past 5 years, and I appreciate you carrying the torch. Thanks!!

[@pamelacleveland891]

Another awesome episode of Cooper Stuff. Love it!

[@carrythefireneilbennett9689]

100. I'm with you John. I don't have any forgivenesses to ask for but I have one to give. I forgive the majority of churches for bowing to the spirit of fear instead of being the hands and feet of Jesus and for flushing ALL discernment down the toilet.

[@megangosiak1489]

Many of the people who were speaking out, like Phil Viscer mainly, it felt... wrong. There are things that he's said that felt off. Knowing it wasn't just me about some of these people, it's comforting. They were using emotions when God tells us to not be ruled by emotions, especially fear.

[@christisgreaterthanculture9255]

100% agreed

[@tonymancuso6634]

It is not love to watch everyone skipping and dancing merrily to hell! It is our duty as Christians to correct the sinners.

[@norman2746]

You are correct Again !!

[@pastorbrianediger]

God blessed the midwives who defied Pharaoh in Exodus 1 and protected Daniel's 3 friends in Daniel 2. He protected Peter and John in Acts 4 when they went against the religious rulers. God's authority is higher than the government's. When the government goes against Yahweh, the followers of Yahweh go against the government.

[@dani2190]

Honestly this is a problem with Christians like Chick fil a, and even Pure Flix has this mind set of we know what we're talking about without the effort. (And thats putting it lightly.) One reason I'm being careful of what Christian companies i should trust.🐻🧸

[@jamiecon1961]

Btw the Spanish flu was like 25 times worse than COVID.

[@mackfarlainethebarenakedau5113]

Cold and flu was worse than covid. I worked in a hospital as a housekeeper and heard doctors saying, Just because someone comes in sick does not mean they need to be tested for covid.

[@bencorley8687]

You're accountable for the choices you made during the dark times. Justice is dealing with the consequences of your actions, grace comes in walking through those consequences with those who did wrong while holding them to account.

[@Absolute_Goober]

“In the words of ludacris”
*quotes dmx

[@abidingewe2065]

🤣🤷🏻‍♀️😅 Cooper’s oops.

[@jaznjen9876]

I wish there was a double thumbs up button! 👍👍

[@dominiclapinta8537]

I'm so glad I grew up in and around good pentecostal folk. Had I grown up reformed I probably would have to deal with these issues so much worse and would have been caught off guard. Growing up, I got to witness the whole counsel of Gods Word in signs and working of the Holy Ghost, so that when I got older, no amount of mental arguing about core doctrine, would shake my faith

[@mhimnotthebee]

Well said Cooper! They are silent dogs & God will hold them accountable for their deceit and using the name of God by further their own bank accounts

[@gbssurvivor130]

EXCELLENT analysis as always Coop!!!

[@tonymancuso6634]

Right now a lot of people are seeking the truth as they are seeing

[@tonymancuso6634]

There are lies we need to speak up

[@michaelstevens1934]

We’ve got to STAND NOW !!!

[@debrasteele6407]

Thank you for saying that we can not and should not sweep this under the rug. The Church needs to face this.

[@cpjds1]

3:15 John rewording Strawberry Fields Forever by the Beatles 😂😂

[@1zoebelle]

I am SO grateful for your voice! 🗣️
This episode is straight fire; you got me so worked up. 🤣Keep being bold, and speaking up! 💥

[@MrTnatsni]

How about a tour lineup of Fight the Fury, Ledger, and Skillet?

[@jamiecon1961]

Apparently the president hasn't met the percussion church.

[@Skilletfan]

You’re so incredibly right on point! Thank you so much, John, for speaking the truth! No woke cookies for me, either. Part of the reason I like, admire, and respect you so much is because you own up to your own shortcomings, mistakes, and weaknesses. And by the way, you’re a very smart and talented man. Love you and the rest of Skillet!

[@suprchickn7745]

World Magazine is a much better Christian magazine. Christianity Today is quite a liberal, woke publication.

[@chadkeil3952]

Hey John, love your podcast, and Skillet is the best Christian band ever!!!
From what I remember during the beginning of the pandemic, President Trump did want to shut down travel to and from China early, but the Dems blocked him early on. It wasn't till a bit later until that happened. Speaking from memory, could be wrong, it was several years ago now.

[@beckyargueta6941]

So I agree with your take on this... but I honestly think laypeople SHOULD be researching... otherwise how will we know which leaders to follow/listen to/etc? And unfortunately non-researching layppl who jump on these bandwagons are a big part of what allows these overreaches to continue. Forgiveness, yes. Accountability for those in authority, yes. But we layppl have a responsibility to learn and research too, or we'll swallow up anything.

[@davidhealdjr.513]

I took the jab, but I'm a libertarian, and had no desire to force it on others, even within my own family.

[@sarawinardi6745]

Christianity Today is not same magazine as it was when Billy Graham first founded it.

[@wagnerservices5796]

Towards the end of this I am almost crying laughing but it is really great + truth

[@hga8418]

Well... another episode with Mr. Cooper giving a proper solo speech. Very interesting, indeed, from what I've heard up until now.
Cookies.. woke cookies forever😂😎🎶

[@tonymancuso6634]

Jesus was considered dangerous He challenged the status quo He did not worry about what people thought of Him He told the truth and was crucified for it there is no middle of the road anymore We have to stand for Christ. There is forgiveness and then there is enabling this article is enabling.

[@Notknightrider]

I think, in a corporate sense, repentance is required for forgiveness and restoration. If they are calling for forgiveness, there needs to be a turning away from the ideology or perspective that made them set themselves up against the church's mission during the Pandemic. At the personal level...we must forgive - but trust is earned.

[@mamamia5130]

Monkey heads and babies what?! How’d I miss THAT one?

[@rickjohnson6818]

What the enemy means for evil God uses it for good. People, many of them veterans, are waking up because they are done with the insanity. Great podcast. Subscribed.

[@thepatriotsclubjbu646]

The truth is marching on!

[@SensualSandSifterVODs]

I was today years old when I knew that he has a podcast, I love it.

[@jenniferdansie7047]

Preach!

[@karhart6663]

The article saying about how officials should have acted more decisively early on. That was a veiled comment about "hey, remember that orange haired guy in office at the beginning of lockdowns? He could have done this or that."
My grandmother died in 2021 from covid (there is a whole story about how the hospital may have neglected her bc she was unvaxxed) and I couldn't properly grieve bc I couldn't talk with ppl about her death. Because I KNEW that their first question would be about her vax status. Like her being unvaxxed meant that she somehow deserved to die. Now it sounds ludicrous but I knew this would happen.

[@christisgreaterthanculture9255]

gotta love the gaslighting from the white house.
asking a serious question is now dangerious?

[@nathanschneider7001]

Dude I love skillet soo much I was at lakes jam in brainerd last night and your show was awesome!!!

[@alanmalcom6719]

They sound like they want 1984.(the book)

[@VioletFlowerz]

We show our commitment to Christ and love for others by stating the truth and seeking wisdom through the Holy Spirit and scripture. I believe in forgiving others, but I also believe in discerning of spirits and not giving in to fear and other emotions for approval by the masses.

[@hthrun]

11:00 I was called a racist for being against abortion even though my wife and kids are black.

[@TheMudSlinger]

I agree with everything except forgiveness. If you are forgiving them, then you will trust them and everything is right between you and them like when God forgives repentant sinners. So I will not forgive them. Like you said, I will not trust them or listen to them and I remember their lies and harm they have caused. But I will not seek vengeance or retribution, that belongs to God, but unless they come with repentance and ask for forgiveness then I am duty bound to give it to them which mean full restoration and brotherhood. I really think many Christians confuse forgiveness with simply not seeking revenge.

[@dahelmang]

Well I think people usually say forgiveness is not seeking revenge but not necessarily reconciliation.

[@adameisbrenner6209]

I think you are mistaken. You can forgive someone and still not trust them. It just means you're not holding that wrong against them anymore.

[@treeyellow4627]

Been following you since I became born again at 19. A good 25 years later. Still luv you all!! Where can I ask you a question? Thanks!😊

[@yobadvachevskiy]

I have never believed in God, although my family are Christians and often took me to church as a child. They explained to me what faith in Jesus is. I have experienced very unpleasant moments in my life and I asked God to help me. Nothing changed when I asked. I went to church, I was on the verge, I wanted to kill myself. Now I realize that I was wrong. I still don't believe in God, but I respect people who do. And I envy them. They are not alone. They believe in it and it helps them. Every time I watch Skillet's interview I feel like an asshole. You have been my idols since childhood and the fact that I am an atheist has always bothered me. But I admire the fact that for you it's not just words, but a lifestyle, sort of. It makes me think about my lifestyle and I would really like to be like you. I just couldn't consider this belief

[@Dawn388]

I hope Jesus will speak to you like no-one else is able to because He knows you like no other. When you say Skillet is your idol, i am sure you just mean you really like his music, and you don’t worship Skillet, lol. Jesus must be calling you or you wouldn’t be saying that you envy people who are believers. Keep talking to the Lord about that, maybe there have already been changes that are small and appear unnoticeable to you. He is working on each of is who look to Him, you have looked to Him already when you asked Him to help you, He doesn’t forget or deny you.

[@amyscullin9206]

Please remember you are here for a reason-you have a purpose. It takes faith to believe in Jesus when you cannot see him and also takes an understanding that there are no such things as coincidences. Some churches are not the answer. I think it is difficult to find a true bible teaching church. If you keep searching you will find and understand. Please do not give up on God it is so worth the effort.

[@laurenkwarren]

We’re glad you’re here. Keep listening and watching, you may yet see God. 🙏🏻

[@abidingewe2065]

Humble yourself and ask God to reveal Himself to you. ❤ Be blessed.
Praying for you. 🙏

[@AndrewJohnH]

We often don't know why things happen to us in life, and as you have seen, asking God to change our circumstances isn't always answered with a "yes", and we don't have an understanding of why that would be. That is our common lot as humans, Christian, atheist, or otherwise.
As a Christian, I take comfort from the fact that I don't walk through those times alone, and that there is a purpose beyond what I can see.

[@melissafriedrichs4716]

I'm with you Cooper

[@ryancavanaugh4479]

"Nice" is for haircuts and paint jobs. We are called to be kind, you can't be nice to people who mistreat you.

[@Vlabar]

Christianity Today was already compromised years ago

[@justanobody0]

hi John, I like your song collide

[@jimpotter3179]

Man do I agree with you!

[@garyddenzer1432]

Keep it up Coop!

[@nosretep1960]

It's true, especially the tranzits, are extremely brave! They're not afraid of God. His warnings do not affect them. To fear something is to believe it is dangerous and able to harm and injure. 🤔 The UltraGod just might be able! When his wrath comes you don't want to be there as a bystander, let alone the object!😮

[@Brian-ep9mj]

Spittin' truth

[@patriciarobinson2553]

Distance to tyranny is obediance to God

[@lennieotey3389]

We were so blessed here. We never had a mask mandate. Our church had drive in services on Easter and opened the week after with a designated place apart from the rest of us for the elderly.
Masks were optional.
We never had a mask mandate and our schools reopened in the fall of 2020.
My daughter had to teach the video classes the last of the 2019-2020 school year and it the amount of children who dropped completely off the radar was a travesty.
I’m so glad that God gave us wisdom.
We did not get the💉or the C.
Many people we knew who did get the 💉, also got very sick. 🤷🏼‍♀️
It was the grace of God, that kept us healthy and we give Him all the glory!

[@lennieotey3389]

And, I agree with @cooperstuff 100%!!