This is the most underrated aspect of using a video processor. It simply works and gets out of your way. It’s so great you totally forget about it. But I can’t ever see myself using a setup without a video processor
I've been wanting a madVR for frame interpolation and tone mapping HDR10 on my OLED TV, but it doesn't support Dolby Vision, and it's super expensive, $18K right? Almost as much as my TV. I want it to use as a toy more than anything.
No to Dolby Vision, correct. I understand the rationale is that Dolby Vision is not necessary when madVR is tone mapping. The top/current model is $16k MSRP. If you're interested, message me at techthusiasm_jp@outlook.com, and I can put you in touch with folks for a quote.
Have you considered a Lumagen? Its cheaper and I will highly doubt you could tell the difference between the two. ( plus they are updating their UI which will be great ).
@@Saturn2888 I don't know of a feature that is only supported in either the MadVR or Lumagen ( I believe they both support and do the same ). What feature are you referring to?
Good detail as usual. I like seeing the adjustment screens and setup information in particular. And nice job on the new production style with the background music!
51 nits is what my current projector is capable of in my current setup. I look forward to a projector upgrade to a brighter unit. The nit value isn't your target, it is what your system is delivering on a pure white field.
@@Techthusiasm Ah makes sense. Thanks for taking the time. I have an XW7000. I have a small scope screen and short throw distance, so i run my laser at 41%, as this produced 100 nits on a 100% white image. Is this then the correct way to define this value in the Envy?
You need a light meter. You can grab a LUX meter off Amazon for like $20 or so. Measure your setup on a full white field, then use this formula. Lux * gain / 3.14 equals your nits to enter on the Envy.
I have used them both, and there is some deep dive Lumagen content on the channel here. Lumagen is less expensive, it can work as a switcher, and have much inferior updating/UI/usability. madVR has more advanced processing options like the MotionAI, significantly better updating/UI/usability, does not function as a switcher, and costs more. Lumagen is a smaller package 1U unit. madVR is much bigger with fans, if that matters where you might install it. Those are some differences off the top.
I just upgraded from radiance pro 4242 18ghz. And i must say that the overall user experience is light years ahead. In terms of the final image, the MK2 extreme is by all means a much better product. But i wouldn't say that it's 2x as good. But it's definitely 30% better.
You can get those edges more aligned by tilting your projector up slightly, then countering with lens shift. It's possible to make it completely square by combining tilt and shift.
Yeah, getting a projector square to a screen is a process for sure. I had a really solid lock onto the screen, so I was surprised when I watched this back that the bottom left edge seemed off. I will double check it and adjust for sure.
For longer gaming sessions, would you use the madvr or lens shift? I imagine it would be worth shifting the lens if you knew you’d be in 16:9 content for an extended period?
For gaming, I would not plan to run signals through the madVR. I plan to complete a 2nd HDMI run from the AVM 90 to the projector to bypass the Envy entirely when gaming. Then as you say, I will use a lens recall to a 16:9 memory for gaming. As it is, I don't tend to game much in the theater. Right now, neither my PC nor the Switch are even routed to the theater.
Correct; however, there's an important distinction between using the madVR Envy's passthrough and bypassing the unit completely. The latter is preferable and required even if you plan to use HDMI 2.1 gaming-related features and resolution/frame rates as the Envy's passthrough is not HDMI 2.1 capable.
Great video!
Thanks!
This is the most underrated aspect of using a video processor. It simply works and gets out of your way. It’s so great you totally forget about it. But I can’t ever see myself using a setup without a video processor
It is very superior, for sure!
I've been wanting a madVR for frame interpolation and tone mapping HDR10 on my OLED TV, but it doesn't support Dolby Vision, and it's super expensive, $18K right? Almost as much as my TV. I want it to use as a toy more than anything.
No to Dolby Vision, correct. I understand the rationale is that Dolby Vision is not necessary when madVR is tone mapping. The top/current model is $16k MSRP. If you're interested, message me at techthusiasm_jp@outlook.com, and I can put you in touch with folks for a quote.
Have you considered a Lumagen? Its cheaper and I will highly doubt you could tell the difference between the two. ( plus they are updating their UI which will be great ).
@@TechinaSec101 I did look at a Lumagen, but I think that model supported the things I wanted to do.
@@Saturn2888 I don't know of a feature that is only supported in either the MadVR or Lumagen ( I believe they both support and do the same ). What feature are you referring to?
@@TechinaSec101 The guy I spoke to selling a used one said no Frame Interpolation. Also no Dolby Vision support.
Good detail as usual. I like seeing the adjustment screens and setup information in particular. And nice job on the new production style with the background music!
Thanks!
Nice video. New MadVR Extreme MK2 owner here. How come you're targeting 51 nits peak brightness and not 100 nits for example?
51 nits is what my current projector is capable of in my current setup. I look forward to a projector upgrade to a brighter unit. The nit value isn't your target, it is what your system is delivering on a pure white field.
@@Techthusiasm Ah makes sense. Thanks for taking the time. I have an XW7000. I have a small scope screen and short throw distance, so i run my laser at 41%, as this produced 100 nits on a 100% white image. Is this then the correct way to define this value in the Envy?
You need a light meter. You can grab a LUX meter off Amazon for like $20 or so. Measure your setup on a full white field, then use this formula. Lux * gain / 3.14 equals your nits to enter on the Envy.
What's the difference between this and the Lumagen (which seems to be much cheaper)?
I have used them both, and there is some deep dive Lumagen content on the channel here. Lumagen is less expensive, it can work as a switcher, and have much inferior updating/UI/usability. madVR has more advanced processing options like the MotionAI, significantly better updating/UI/usability, does not function as a switcher, and costs more. Lumagen is a smaller package 1U unit. madVR is much bigger with fans, if that matters where you might install it. Those are some differences off the top.
I just upgraded from radiance pro 4242 18ghz. And i must say that the overall user experience is light years ahead. In terms of the final image, the MK2 extreme is by all means a much better product. But i wouldn't say that it's 2x as good. But it's definitely 30% better.
You can get those edges more aligned by tilting your projector up slightly, then countering with lens shift. It's possible to make it completely square by combining tilt and shift.
Yeah, getting a projector square to a screen is a process for sure. I had a really solid lock onto the screen, so I was surprised when I watched this back that the bottom left edge seemed off. I will double check it and adjust for sure.
@@Techthusiasm sometimes the mount will settle and need to be readjusted. :(
Yeah, I wondered if the shelf had settled a little since my recent re-install causing that change.
For longer gaming sessions, would you use the madvr or lens shift? I imagine it would be worth shifting the lens if you knew you’d be in 16:9 content for an extended period?
For gaming, I would not plan to run signals through the madVR. I plan to complete a 2nd HDMI run from the AVM 90 to the projector to bypass the Envy entirely when gaming. Then as you say, I will use a lens recall to a 16:9 memory for gaming. As it is, I don't tend to game much in the theater. Right now, neither my PC nor the Switch are even routed to the theater.
MadVR adds 200ms of lag. You're supposed to use passthrough mode for gaming.
Correct; however, there's an important distinction between using the madVR Envy's passthrough and bypassing the unit completely. The latter is preferable and required even if you plan to use HDMI 2.1 gaming-related features and resolution/frame rates as the Envy's passthrough is not HDMI 2.1 capable.
@@Techthusiasm Ah, great point! Didn't think of that. I uses an NVIDA RTX GPU, but the passthrough device itself isn't from NVIDIA. Makes sense.
Thanks!
You bet!