Ayodhya on December 6 Should Not Have Happened. It Was Our Failure: Atal Bihari Vajpayee, 1992
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- Atal Bihari Vajpayee, who went onto be the first prime minister from the BJP for two terms, spoke to Karan Thapar after the demolition of the Babri Masjid in Ayodhya in 1992 about how he wanted to resign as am MP and then from the party’s national executive on “differences over the Ayodhya situation”. Thapar was then executive producer, Eyewitness.
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It takes courage to say i failed as a pm...we all miss u sir..u were not perfect but u were a true citizen & leader our great country ever had..karan thapar a legend as always🙏
Modi will never say this even if he has terribly failed on many fronts including at controlling unemployment situation.
Mr Atal ji was not PM on 6th December 1992, it was Mr PV Narasimha Rao. Atalji was always a laudable leader.
the king pin of plethora of pogroms has already gone kaput in all fronts...
@@I_am_AmanSinghyou can't compare modi to any other leaders, modi is a social media hyped up pm, who is not in pm office to make decisions, he is always on roads to make constant social media appearance,,
Still bjp has few very best leaders, and Atal Sir is among my best pm and a leader of our country
@@I_am_AmanSinghnow start celebrating because Pakistan is using this an interview to malign india worldwide 😂
I wouldn't excuse this leader from the Ayodhya incident in 1992 but at least he seems to have courage to face an open interview. Appreciate him for that.
Babri demolition was very much result of Rajiv Gandhi's indifferent leadership. Muslims didn't vote congress because they believed in secular liberal values. They voted congress because they could continue to arm twist government on secular policies. Tolerance of Hindus was taken for granted. Rajiv Gandhi was forced to open Ram temple and perform shilanyas and rest is history
Pakistan has broken 1000+ hindu temple and I am not counting how many have been broken during mughal rule .Hinduo ne ek tod bhi diya for a reason then why so many cru from muslims and lande k liberals .Why they were sailent on Pakistan mandir demolision ? Agar hinduo k ashtha ka samman nahi karoge and anti hindu policy banaoge to aage bhi yahi hoga .Agar kaba ko tod kar church bana diya hota to ,what do u think how long muslims would have waited ? Hindus ne to 550yrs wait kiya hai .Kashi,mathura etc ko dedo santi se warna yahi hoga
@@sanjaychauhan1116it doesn't matter, either 1 or thousands that was past in history, but repeating the same can't be justified in this present century. Your comment proves your mindset and mentality.
@@sanjaychauhan1116 aap fir ek kaam kijiye.
Aap sabhi tor for karte rahiye, anjam kuch khas hoga batana mushkil hain.
Pakistan ka official religion hain. India ka nehi. Aur history dekh kar sab judge kiya jay toh bohut aise ghatna hain, jiska insaaf kabhi nehi milega. Toh fir kya kare? Torfor kare ???
@@76ksubscribers I agree. If we set out to correct all the wrongs of the past then America will have to return the country to the Red Indians, Australia to the Maoris and so on. Those were different times. Today we have to adjust, accommodate and align for the common good and welfare. Suppress religious fanaticism by all means but do not target the descendants for the wrongdoings of their ancestors.
Be it 1992 or 2023, the only constant thing remains Karan Thapar 's incisive questions!! Another difference is the response. Mr. Modi leaves an interview midway while Mr. Vajpayee looks uncomfortable and becomes defensive!!
Hindus thoughts Muslim will show big heart and will give back Ayodhya, Banaras & Kashi. BUT now they will take it back. I too don't like it as India should focus more on development, hospitals etc not religion
Pakistan has broken 1000+ hindu temple and I am not counting how many have been broken during mughal rule .Hinduo ne ek tod bhi diya for a reason then why so many cry from muslims and lande k liberals .Why they were sailent on Pakistan mandir demolision ? Agar hinduo k ashtha ka samman nahi karoge and anti hindu policy banaoge to aage bhi yahi hoga .Agar kaba ko tod kar church bana diya hota to ,what do u think how long muslims would have waited ? Hindus ne to 550yrs wait kiya hai .Kashi,mathura etc ko dedo santi se warna yahi hoga
@@sanjaychauhan1116 yhi hoga se kya matlab hai. What the bjp is doing is exploiting the Hindu vote bank in the name of ram . Aur jha tk hone schools mein padha hai that ram is the flag bearer of tolerance and nonviolence. Plus sorry to say but the bjp today (not 1992) neither cares about Muslims nor Hindus nor anyone. It's just that pleasing the majority vote bank would lead to political gain. And here in India the majority votebank is the Hindu population. Plus pran Pratishtha toh mandir bnne ke baad hoti hai. Aur woh bhi ek Pujari karte hain. Modiji kyun kr rhe hain?
Aur jha tk Pakistan ki baad mandir todna galat unhone bhi Kiya but usko base pe isko aur aane wale dange fasat ko kaise justify kr skte ho?
Sacche sanatan Hoge toh baat buri lgi hogi but Sach ko inkaaro ge nhi.
Just like atal Bihari vajpayee
@@nirmalbhel3231 A big Mosque is under construction in my street . Can you please come and ask them to stop the construction and turn it into a hospital. Stop your hypocrisy ffs, go away .
@@pt-7890 If a Mosque is coming up then let come, why we should convert it Hospital or School. There are many unused land where others things can come. No Church or Temple must be converted to a Mosque. Muslim rules have done this in past, such as Hagia Sofia which was a Church and now a Mosque. In India, many temples were broken by Muslim rules and Mosques were converted. Kashi, Mathura and Ayodhya are three of them. When Brits came, Hindus requested Brits to convert only these three not others.. but Brit didn't do. How long Hindus will wait?
One of the BEST presentation of "The Wire".A Big Salute to Respected Karan Thapar Ji for such a Great Interview.
Mr. Thapar is indeed a very intelligent and clever interviewer.
Thappar have power ask the questions to Congress or rjd leaders.
@@abhishekprajapati6205 check out his interview with Mr. Narsimha Rao when he was the PM during December 92. You will be surprised how he asked probing questions to him too!
@@abhishekprajapati6205These are ChrIslamist "Hindus". For them party is not the issue. Agenda is.
@@abhishekprajapati6205 Yes watch his old interviews. Why do you think RaGa doesn't give him an interview?
@@pran10000 He does not ask for an Interview from Rahul Gandhi. And Rahul Gandhi has been answering questions to the fascist hindutwa agenda media from past 10 years as if he was in power and liable to answer questions. Unlike Modi, he is not going to shit his pants and drink water and run away. RaGa has enough honesty and guts to face honest Journalists like Thapar.
Most Respected and Responsible Leader of Party.Sh.Atal Bihari Vajpayee is being remembered for clean,clear and fair Politics.
Karan is unmatchable in his job of interviewing people in power. His ability to breakdown and unfold secrets from the heart of the interviewee through incisive questions is extraordinary.
It's the follow up questions that the politicians are uncomfortable with! Karan has this ability to follow up with more uncomfortable questions to the original question!
Pakistan has broken 1000+ hindu temple and I am not counting how many have been broken during mughal rule .Hinduo ne ek tod bhi diya for a reason then why so many cru from muslims and lande k liberals .Why they were sailent on Pakistan mandir demolision ? Agar hinduo k ashtha ka samman nahi karoge and anti hindu policy banaoge to aage bhi yahi hoga .Agar kaba ko tod kar church bana diya hota to ,what do u think how long muslims would have waited ? Hindus ne to 550yrs wait kiya hai .Kashi,mathura etc ko dedo santi se warna yahi hoga
Can we expect an interview like this in modern India. This absence is called the demise of democratic values in modern times. What is correct or incorrect is debatable but these values should remain to ask questions.
VAJPAYEE JI WAS A POLITITION WITH MORALS & ETHICS . THESE QUALITIES ARE NON EXISTENT IN THE PRESENT TOP POLITICAL LEADERS OF THE BJP .
Yes it's true
Not only BJP but all political parties.
No my dear Friend he was just trying to be Holly in a crowd of evil
Have you listen his speech before babri demolition?
What action did he take at 2002 riots other than requesting than Gujarat CM to follow the rajdharma.
Vajpayee advani, joshi, and other colleagues are main culprit of destruction of democracy and are architect of todays India
मुखौटा. लोग उसके अंतर्मन के बारे में नहीं जानते
Read his speech on 5 December 1992 evening published in Outlook magazine
I did not support his party in 1992 neither do I support his party today and will never in future. But I can say that Mr. Vajpayee is honorable, honest and respectable Person.
Karan is simply great. He asks questions we are all eager to know the answer to.
What a great man Atal bihari Vajpai was . A great speaker , intelligent man. Now the hands of BJP is under very wrong prople
No doubt, Mr. Atal Bihari Bajpaiji was man of substance. Which Narendra Modi doesn't acquire 1% of his stature. But we never see the changes to Karan Thapper ji. You stand tall throughout your career. A big salute to your honesty and daredevil attitude. ❤❤❤
Planning and Allowing the mistake and showing post sympathies is called GAMEPLAN and the player of the Game is called POLITICIAN 😂😂😂
Very true
He very cleverly tried to prove that the higher decision making body was complete unaware of the mob’s behaviour…
Yep
Absolute lies
What a great man! Are the BJP and especially the RSS listening?
Vajpayee ji is telling dec 6 shouldn't have happened, but it was same Vajpayee ji 2 days before he said ज़मीन को समतल करना पडेगा।
Hypocrisy ki nhi seema hoti hai 😅😅
@anandixitin Touché! It is rank hypocrisy to go through the entire charade of the Rathyatra and ensuing episodes of violence, talk of flattening the land for a new construction, and then rue what happened on 6 Dec. The answers reek of sheer hypocrisy and irresponsible crocodile tears. On some accounts he might have been a great man, but that does not absolve him of his sins in this matter.
I don't think mob was in anyone's control. Vajpayee just hoped that violence would be limited to periphery. All political protests tend to go out of control. How many trains were burnt in protest against agniveer!
Why don't we remember Vajpayee's double speak about Babri Masjid throughout that period? All details are given in the relevant chapter of the book written by Home Secretary, Madhav Godbole Unfinished Innings. There is the truth. Everything else is what politicians say to cover up the truth. Only V P Singh and Lalu Yadav did the right thing on the Mandir Masjid issue. Noone else. Not Rajiv Gandhi or Advani either. This is what history will write. Watch the documentary Ram ke Naam. Didn't this poor country need anything more important to do for its people than THIS to fight over?
Gem of a person - Shri Atal Bihari Vajpayee - respected & loved by all, remembered with warm fondness even after his demise !
The Acceptance of the Word " Unable to Control the Car Sebaks Was the Failure of the Top Leaders of B J P " in an Open Interview denotes a true Leader's Confessions of Regrets. Bajpayee ji was a Political leader in True Sense. Kolkata.
What an honest Being,being a politician! It's very hard to see now a days..lots of respect for Atalji🙏🙏🙏
Only a true gentleman can have the courage to stand with the truth. And doesnt think what it will cost
Also him: "iss zameen ko samtaal karna padega"
Atal ji simply lied about being sorry for what happened when he himself was no less a party in the events immediately preceding the demolition of the mosque.
This is the kind of leaders India is missing today.
Long live the ideas of Vajpayee ji. Such a large hearted person who believed firmly in the value of human labour and debate.
It's time for u to celebrate because Pakistan is using the same video clip to demonizing india throughout the world 😢😢😢
Don't say that loudly in the company of BJP haters.
Generations pass by... today we know the ugliness behind the "mukhota"
Loved this ! Vajpayee was so eloquent and at ease even in English ....I thought he was a reluctant English speaker and that his articulation was limited to mostly Hindi ...but infact he seems to be quite a natural at bringing correct thoughts to tongue even in English.
Also ...he was so sharp in picking up on the Freudian slip around the end of the interview.
Bjp built by Vajpayee survived and thrived. Bjp built by Modi Shah will die once they are out of power
You are doing great work
The deterioration of the party from this to Modi-Shah is not just astounding but sad to see. How the stature of the politicians have diminished over the years.
What about Rjd , jdu leaders your opinion is only biased .I , think today's govt is the best govt in Indian history.
@@abhishekprajapati6205 huh, what?
Best government? In terms of what...Policies, economic development, protection of minorities? Even they never safeguarded the interests of the majorities. They control the media to create such an illusion.
The evolution of his party from his time to now can be described as from heaven to hell!! 😢
When I was a small boy in class 4 I hardly think much about our former PM, he was another old politician and as kids I really never cross my mind what sort of a man he was seeing him on TV. Now comparing to the current BJP lot, he was gold.
Last Question: Who had said 'Samtal tou karna padega' ?
For bjp, rss...it was literally... baghal में छुरी, मुँह पर ram ram
Dealing with Chrislamists, one learns naturally.
@@PS-ej2xn and then all hindus flock to Christian and Muslim countries to live and work. LMAO!
@@PS-ej2xn butt hurt because we have ruled over you lot for a thousand years
@@fh8047If the Same British Said to you how you Feel ?
This is fantastic! I’m so glad you guys are releasing Karan’s old tapes.
I admire Atal Bihari Vajpayee as a leader regardless of what people say of him. He was sincere and honest and always spoke his mind. He was never reluctant to stand for what his values were regardless of party, ideology or religious beliefs. Few people have this level of humility and maturity.
क्या अटल जी सच कह रहे हैं ?
अगर हां तो फिर उस घटना के कुछ घंटे पहले कार्यकर्ताओं से "जमीन को बैठने के लिए, समतल बनाने की बात क्यों कही थी ?"
Unparalleled Karan, always succeeded in showing true. face of the interviewees.
What a GREAT POLITICIAN WITH GREAT HUMAN VALUES- STATESMAN LIKE PANDIT NEHRU...WE NEED LEADERS LIKE THEM TODAY ...
Atal Bihari Vajpayee Ji was the true statesman, his views were democratic and constitutional, but politicians of his party at the present time are undemocratic, unconstitutional, and hatemongers.
Now in the land of cow worship , india is the highest beef exporter in the world. Truly hipocracy ki bhi seema hoti hai.
This is beyond the understanding of you ChrIslamists. 😅😅😅
Thank you Wire for bringing out this interview.
Very interesting. It exposes the present establishment. An insult to his legacy
Worship with their mouth but disrespect his
The body language of Vajpayee gives him away in every reply that he is merely a pack of lies
Hope all the supporters of any party watch this once..about Atal Ji..and take some lessons from him..This is what a true leader was like..😌
Pakistan has broken 1000+ hindu temple and I am not counting how many have been broken during mughal rule .Hinduo ne ek tod bhi diya for a reason then why so many cru from muslims and lande k liberals .Why they were sailent on Pakistan mandir demolition ? Agar hinduo k ashtha ka samman nahi karoge and anti hindu policy banaoge to aage bhi yahi hoga .Agar kaba ko tod kar church bana diya hota to ,what do u think how long muslims would have waited ? Hindus ne to 550yrs wait kiya hai .Kashi,mathura etc ko dedo santi se warna yahi hoga
If Modi was like Atal he would not have been popular among dumb bhakts.
Karan Thappar again...😂😂😂
Bhai ke paas Kua hai kya? Khoj khoj ke sabko paani pilaata hai 😎
Mr Thapar thsnk u for sharing this old interview,atalji was a statesman,man of principles,talked to opposition whenever it is needed but modi is narrow minded,brutal and uses ED as a tool ro suppress opposition.
ultimately a 500 years old Masjid was demolished with the tacit support of UP govt and BJP ... A BLACK DAY FOR INDIA AND HUMANITY.
he was just trying to be Holly in a crowd of evil
Have you listen his speech before babri demolition?
What action did he take at 2002 riots other than requesting than Gujarat CM to follow the rajdharma.
Vajpayee advani, joshi, and other colleagues are main culprit of destruction of democracy and are architect of todays India
Learned people talk in different manner, i am impressed seeing this interview
Itna achhe leader could not become pm second time
Who cares for ABV now. Even present BJP have forgotten him. Now parry has become slave of Modi Shah. Just like present Congress forgotten M K Gandhi, these people don't care about Vajpayee.
Vir Sanghi report Ayodya issue on The print was very interesting!
Absolutely true sir great effort towards establishing the voice of peace above all 🙏✌️👍👊👌🤘🥰💗💯🕊️
The difference of leadership with current one is so stark.
Those times leaders spoke face to face, these days they dog whistle from the pulpit or through monkey bath.
How BJP could have built Ram Temple at Babri masjid location without destroying Masjid ??
Destruction is a planned and deliberate act .
Why this dead BJP leader lying ?
It is hypocritical, evasive and mostly doublespeak performance.
Atal ji must be knowing what will happen on 6 December 1992 in ayodhya so he is as guilty as advani for babri mosque demolition. He was as equal rss leader as advani or modi. The diffrence is he has done politics in 90s when bjp didnt get enough seats to make government on his own thatswhy he kept moderate face to accomodate other alliance parties of nda. If he had a majority govt like modi he would be equal hard in enforcing hindutva agenda of rss on india.
Thanks for sharing this old interview pertaining to a turning point of Indias political history that has brought our country upside-down?🤔🤔
Fantastic interview- both this and Narasimha Rao. What grace among opponents. All down the gutter in the past 15 odd years
Let me rip his pseudo moral veil. He was an epitome of doublespeak. He had no Universal ideals, apart from what he got from the terror group RSS.
1) Vajpayee admitted in Sangh parivar's, Organizer: 'We did pull down the structure in Ayodhya' (7 May 1995)
2) During an election campaign, he claimed that the construction of Rama temple at ayodhya was necessary 'to save the honour of the Hindu community' (The Times of India, 13 May 1991)
3) The compromise of 'honour' was repeated in 1998.
4)On 6 December he said, 'The project for constructing Rama temple in Ayodhya was the expression of nationalist feelings. The work has not yet been completed' (The Hindu, 7 December 2000)
5) Since 1986, Vajpayee had tirelessly claimed that the site belonged to the Hindus and construction of a temple on it would correct a wrong done to them. (Excerpt from The Babri masjid question)
6) On 6 April 1989, he demanded, ' Hand over the site to Hindus for that is the only solution for the Ramjanamabhimi-Babri Masjid dispute in ayodhya.' He said he spoke as a Swayamsevak of RSS and as a Hindu (Indian express, 7 April 1989)
7) On 12 May 1991, he stressed the need for constructing the temple 'to save the honour of the Hindu community and to protect the cultural heritage of the country ' (The Times of India, 13 May 1991)
8) On 5th December 1992, he said, 'The Central government should acquire the disputed structure at ayodhya and hand it over to VHP to construct the Rama temple there. Construction of the Rama temple at the birthplace was to consolidate cultural heritage '
9) On 17 May 1989, he said, ' It was not possible to pin point the exact place where Rama was born thousands of years ago. The temple was built and rebuilt over the age and had existed since emperor vikramaditya's time' (The Hindustan Times, 18 May 1989
Wow!! Karan Thapar taught me how to rephrase a question. What an interrogator he has been!! Much Respect!!🙏🏻
Woow great service to the country ( india) by wire and now Pakistan is using same video clip to tell the world that look what bjp did to Muslims..
Now democracies are doing business with some industrialists policy????!!!!!
Immaculate, nostalgic and to some extent, revealing the shape of things that followed...
Dr Jekill - perfect acting. No penitence, remorse.
Dr Jekill deputed Mr Hyde (advani) to execute his plan. Last few years he suffered for his tongue-twisting & his dear deputy is living dead & anonymity, deaf & dumb.
Now that the inauguration of Ram Mandir is near, the Wire is leaving no stone unturn to do propaganda on mandir posting old videos and hurting hindu sentiments.
Inspite of difference in ideology, this man commands respect. He was ready to speak, listen, befriend people. Unlike current folks.
Vishwaguru can't speak to Press like this
The late Vajpayee , the late prime minister of India , by perchance was a claptrap. The plan for demolition of the Babri Mosque had been pte-determined on the wintry night December 1948 itself when the idol of Ram was surreptitiously installed by three extremist sages of Ayodhya. The demolition plan was premeditated and the gruesome polirician Advani vaporized the plan in parallel to Mandal Commission promulgation.
Vajpayee had been a scapegoat which he had proved himself then and there.
1. When ordering to deport from India an English correspondent who had reported in the press that Vajpayee used to ' drink ' every night before to bed.
2. In the same podium where he sat along with Nelson Mandela, the latter when inquired whether he could be a mediator in the Indo - Pak regarding Jammu & Kashmir , in the same podium Vajpayee repudiated openly Mr. Mandela , of his service of mediation unnecessary.
Mr. Vajpayee was just a lozenge in the hands of the Sangh Parivar.
3. Vajpayee tried his hands during his reign as prime minister to crown with Bharat Ratna for Gokwalker and Hegdewar - the Hinutva protagonists , but was thwarted by the Opposition parties. 😅😅😅
But he was part of those goobs who demolished it and probably he was leading those goons
Our cartoon would have drank 10 glasses of water and would have run from that place.
What a huge difference between Vajpayee a perfect gentleman who sincerely believed in democracy and Modi. The respect that Vajpayee earned will never be there for Modi who is running the country like his personal feifdom and democratic values are being done away with!
He's a coconspirator. He's responsible for current state of affairs by not punishing Modi
Such people are no more 😢😢😢
And he is intentionally putting these videos here to divide India further
Inke khoon mein hi Jhooth basa hua hai. Deception and Lies are in these people's blood.
Atal ji was only person who was Fit to speak on that critical issue in front of this dangerous journalist.
searching interview indeed !--didn't view earlier, thanks very much for timely flashback !
He predicted we were becoming intolerant and it came true today. Mr Vajpayee is a rare politician and such breed doesn't exist in India anymore.
To Ram Mandir kyu toda tha Mughal ne. Kabhi na kbahi to logo ka gussa bahar aana hi tha
I wish our current pm could speak and not read english ..
He was a great human being to maintain moral ethics.....
Why do people have to resign? Why can't they stay on and fight for what they believe? It takes more courage to do so.
What a Tall leader, who was completely integrity driven and respected by all , even the congress!!
What about our present pm :- Mr. Fake personality to show in your show, for future u r totally empty hands.
Mr. Karan Thaper
Vajpayee had double standards.
The Vajpayee, the founder of the party, has regrets what had happened in Ayodhya. The traitors of the party leader Advani joshi and Nerender Modi don't regret are these people can be considered as the true obidient followers of the Party ?
Islamist Communists meltdown 😂😂
Bhadkana shuru kardiya isne phirse 😂😂
I do believe he was kinda forced into this kind of politics due to the success of Advani. He had no choice but to ride on the success of that politics or simply be an insignificant player in the party. Just a thought. I still blame him for initiating the monster of hindutva that we see today.
Liar like most of his partymen !
Nowadays political parties and members don't have moralities or responsibilities. Like our PM Modi who don't have any. He is always in election mood. Something I wonder whether he is PM of this country or BJP's Prachar Minister.
Modi is not follower of wajpee😊
A extremely humble and enlightened Leader. We miss him.
It seems Karan's agenda has been anti hindu since years.
You mean asking questions to Indian politicians is anti Hindu? Does Hinduism ban asking questions? I dont think so.
@@akhiljames8807 This country's ethos has been to question everything in the matters of faith unlike Abrahamic faiths rigidity, My only point Karan is a known anti Hindu you can not suppress this fact. The country is secular because majority are Hindus.
How a party has degenerated fm its ideals......
I think their ideals are the same as it was before. Only their real colours are visible now.
If not for the deteriorating health of Vajpayeeji, India would have seen a communally harmonized BJP rule from 2014.. Alas, the very things he feared are now at play
If he was voted into power for the second term, we may have delayed the current version of BJP.
Technically the late PM Shri Narsinha Rao was right on every count, a PM who follows the rule of law, the basic principles of our constitution. But if we compare this with todays PM Modi who do not care about the rule of law or the principles of Indias constitution and does things as per his & RSS wishes, then today we can say PM Narsinha Rao should have taken very strong actions without bothering about constitutionality!🤔🤔
That s why Bajpai did not get second term ?
Such comment is also the reason for Advani ,s exit from BJP
Thanks for sharing the interview & thanks to people who elected such leaders. Leaders who had courage to publically accept their failures. Hope we get to see someone like him soon.