The numerous lyrical smackdowns in this song are fucking amazing. "Don't give a fuck if I burn out/don't give a fuck if I fade away!" (Def Leppard/Glam) "15 years later it still reeks of swill and Chickenshit Conformists!" (Dead Kennedys ref, probably not a smack) "Like father, like son rebels bloated on Korn, Eminems, and Bizkits" (duh). Chris Hannah is a lyrical mastermind and imo, one of the most underrated out there.
Propagandhi, both musically and lyrically, is hands-down the best punk rock band I've ever heard. And I've heard hundreds, if not thousands. This is the one band from my teens I will never stop listening to.
15 years later it still reeks of swill and chickenshit conformists refers to 2 Dead Kennedys songs Triumph of the Swill and Chickenshit Conformist. One of the lines in the latter is "You're a chickenshit conformist like your parents". I think the Korn, Eminem, Bizkit line refers to every generation thinks they're a rebel but then they grow up and fall in line.
I know I’m about two weeks late with this comment, so you may not see, but here goes anyway. Here’s some context for this band and song: 1) you won’t get corrected by most people, but the correct pronunciation of the band name is PropaGANdhi, like propaganda but with an ‘e’ sound at the end. The band is Canadian, and that’s how they pronounce it. 2) Chris Hannah is an amazing lyricist. Basically, this song is about him having second thoughts about playing in a punk band as he finds the scene getting worse. The ‘motor league’ was a travel agency where he worked. He left it to play music, thinking it would be life-changing and he’d basically find a Mecca of sincere, passionate people. In the song he finds himself (15 year later) discouraged by how fraudulent he finds the scene, as the punk crowd was starting to mesh with the Nu Metal fans and others who don’t really care about the music, but are just ‘play acting.’ When he says ‘I’d rather highlight trip-tiks than listen to your bullshit,’ he’s saying he’d rather be back doing his old shitty job than be a part of what’s happening to the scene. There’s a part where he also talks about how people’s behavior reminds him of shitty things he did when he was younger and is trying to move past. In a nutshell, he’s calling a lot of people phonies, and stating that he has times where he considers calling it quits. Anyway, keep reacting to this band, and start Victory Lap. I saw you guys did Dear Coach’s Corner and A Speculative Fiction (as well as a few others). This is a truly great band. Keep reacting to them.
Two small notes on the above. 1) The band has said that they are fine with either pronunciation. Their pronunciation isn't because of their Canadian accents as much as them conceptually putting the emphasis on the Propaganda whereas most fans focused on the Gandhi part. 2) The Motor League wasn't a travel agency. It was more like AAA.
@@ligairi I’ll split the difference on the first part, but as far as the motor league, yeah I didn’t mean to say travel agency. Not sure why I did, and then didn’t catch it. I meant to say something like ‘auto company’ or something. You’re totally right.
The song takes aim at "fake" punk kids turning into the confirmist adults the once railed against. The Korn, Eminem, Bizkits line is particularly vicious because it references both the angsty suburban teenage rebels who once consumed that music now consuming those foods (corn, candy, and junk food) and getting literally and metaphorically fat on it. In my book this song is both a musical and lyrical 10/10.
Thank you guys for doing so many 'gandhi reviews. Aside from melting faces for decades, their lyrics, stance, and importance to todays world are unmatched by basically all in music today. Thanks again. Please keep it up.
Bang in there with the well placed F bombs 🤣 this was one of my favourite songs when I was a teenager. That whole album is amazing! The title track "Today's Empires, Tomorrow's Ashes" is another banger!
I love Chucks pure joy of rating f-bombs...the monster has been unleashed and its beautiful! Next we need Joel rates Chucks puns. I can already see the extremely low ratings while also knowing that Joel loves the puns and wouldn't have it any other way!
selling shoes for venture capitalists might be a critique to swedish punk band millencollin, which some years ago sold vans shoes with the band's logo, for what I can recall.
Hell yeah. Stoked you guys got to this one. Propagandhi has so many killer songs to choose from, but this is definitely THE go to Propagandhi track…and for good reason…lol
Hey guys, so freaking cool to see how punk rock is growing on you. Having a lot of fun these past few months watching you discover that genre. I'm not a patreon (actually working on a playlist for you guys based on what you seem to enjoy) and I'm not gonna request anything YET, but hey I might have a song for Chuck after watching today's video. Give Big D & The Kids Table - "L.A.X" a try. React to it or don't. Just please let Chuck know this song exists as it MAY contain a lot of well placed F bombs. Take care guys.
I think the whole song is about the "scene" people (bands and fans) who pat themselves on their backs because they listen to rock and "rebel" music, or alternative music, whatever, and think they are changing the world because of that, but instead, they reproduce all the BS they are suppossed to be against, like being though guys, etc. so, if it is that way, he would much rather go back to his old job a The Motor League (Which is, I believe, a car dealership in Canada) and have a normal job, than being part of that scene. They have always been notorious for antagonizing their own audiences, being kind of preachy, but the song also has a hint of self criticism, when he sings about how this behaviour he is pointing out to be annoying him, reminds him of his own history, being he himself in the past also a though aggressive guy. So, he is just saying, he knows all too well all about that, so he would rather work a regular job than being a pretend rebel.
I remember at the time this song came out, maybe 98 or so, there was a little bit of a Christian metalcore trend in hardcore and it combined with a bit of a tough guy attitude that not everyone liked. The “Amy Grant Mosh Crews” reference, Looking back, it’s a bit obscure. Lol. It totally hasn’t aged well.
@@joemiller7082 yes sir. facedown records entire roster was great. Some of the heaviest and most violent sounding bands were Christian. Bloody Sunday. A love for enemies. There was a metal wave too, as I lay dying, under oath around this era, august burns red etc. there’s nothing better than the end breakdown of “the harvest-alove for enemies “ where during a heavier than average breakdown they are doing crowd chants of “it’s time to rise and fight for Christ “
On the subject of Canadian punk bands, I reckon you should check out "Subhuman Nature" by Belvedere. I have a feeling Chuck will enjoy one particular part of that one 😆
This entire song is aimed at what they dislike about the punk and hardcore scenes so I don't think "Amy Grant mosh crews" is aimed at Amy Grant as much as either 1) The prevalence of Christianity in the Hardcore scene at the time ... OR ... 2) Amy Grant as just a lame kind of VH1 artist. Prop made fun of "MTV Punks" a lot in that era as Offspring and Green Day were blowing up and VH1 is just a step more embarrassing.
Selling shoes for venture capitalists is a shot at the Vans Warped Tour. For more on this check out the dis tracks between NOFX and Propagandhi with Rock Against Sustainable Capitalism (Prop) and One Celled Creature (NOFX).
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"There are 2 kinds of punk bands :
Those who wrote Back To the Motor League & those that wish they had."
The numerous lyrical smackdowns in this song are fucking amazing. "Don't give a fuck if I burn out/don't give a fuck if I fade away!" (Def Leppard/Glam) "15 years later it still reeks of swill and Chickenshit Conformists!" (Dead Kennedys ref, probably not a smack) "Like father, like son rebels bloated on Korn, Eminems, and Bizkits" (duh). Chris Hannah is a lyrical mastermind and imo, one of the most underrated out there.
Propagandhi, both musically and lyrically, is hands-down the best punk rock band I've ever heard. And I've heard hundreds, if not thousands. This is the one band from my teens I will never stop listening to.
Burn out fade away I believe is Neil Young reference
15 years later it still reeks of swill and chickenshit conformists refers to 2 Dead Kennedys songs Triumph of the Swill and Chickenshit Conformist. One of the lines in the latter is "You're a chickenshit conformist like your parents". I think the Korn, Eminem, Bizkit line refers to every generation thinks they're a rebel but then they grow up and fall in line.
Once thought I drew a lucky hand turned out to be a live grenade
I know I’m about two weeks late with this comment, so you may not see, but here goes anyway. Here’s some context for this band and song:
1) you won’t get corrected by most people, but the correct pronunciation of the band name is PropaGANdhi, like propaganda but with an ‘e’ sound at the end. The band is Canadian, and that’s how they pronounce it.
2) Chris Hannah is an amazing lyricist. Basically, this song is about him having second thoughts about playing in a punk band as he finds the scene getting worse. The ‘motor league’ was a travel agency where he worked. He left it to play music, thinking it would be life-changing and he’d basically find a Mecca of sincere, passionate people. In the song he finds himself (15 year later) discouraged by how fraudulent he finds the scene, as the punk crowd was starting to mesh with the Nu Metal fans and others who don’t really care about the music, but are just ‘play acting.’ When he says ‘I’d rather highlight trip-tiks than listen to your bullshit,’ he’s saying he’d rather be back doing his old shitty job than be a part of what’s happening to the scene. There’s a part where he also talks about how people’s behavior reminds him of shitty things he did when he was younger and is trying to move past. In a nutshell, he’s calling a lot of people phonies, and stating that he has times where he considers calling it quits.
Anyway, keep reacting to this band, and start Victory Lap. I saw you guys did Dear Coach’s Corner and A Speculative Fiction (as well as a few others). This is a truly great band. Keep reacting to them.
Speculative fiction won an award for the great lyrics in Canada
Two small notes on the above. 1) The band has said that they are fine with either pronunciation. Their pronunciation isn't because of their Canadian accents as much as them conceptually putting the emphasis on the Propaganda whereas most fans focused on the Gandhi part. 2) The Motor League wasn't a travel agency. It was more like AAA.
@@ligairi I’ll split the difference on the first part, but as far as the motor league, yeah I didn’t mean to say travel agency. Not sure why I did, and then didn’t catch it. I meant to say something like ‘auto company’ or something. You’re totally right.
You guys need to do “today’s empires tomorrow’s ashes”. That song runs deep….
It absolutely does!
The song takes aim at "fake" punk kids turning into the confirmist adults the once railed against. The Korn, Eminem, Bizkits line is particularly vicious because it references both the angsty suburban teenage rebels who once consumed that music now consuming those foods (corn, candy, and junk food) and getting literally and metaphorically fat on it. In my book this song is both a musical and lyrical 10/10.
Thank you guys for doing so many 'gandhi reviews. Aside from melting faces for decades, their lyrics, stance, and importance to todays world are unmatched by basically all in music today. Thanks again. Please keep it up.
Bang in there with the well placed F bombs 🤣 this was one of my favourite songs when I was a teenager. That whole album is amazing! The title track "Today's Empires, Tomorrow's Ashes" is another banger!
I love Chucks pure joy of rating f-bombs...the monster has been unleashed and its beautiful! Next we need Joel rates Chucks puns. I can already see the extremely low ratings while also knowing that Joel loves the puns and wouldn't have it any other way!
Oh I'm gonna push for this one! -Chuck
selling shoes for venture capitalists might be a critique to swedish punk band millencollin, which some years ago sold vans shoes with the band's logo, for what I can recall.
Hell yeah. Stoked you guys got to this one. Propagandhi has so many killer songs to choose from, but this is definitely THE go to Propagandhi track…and for good reason…lol
Killer review start to finish, Bois! 🤘
Hey guys, so freaking cool to see how punk rock is growing on you. Having a lot of fun these past few months watching you discover that genre. I'm not a patreon (actually working on a playlist for you guys based on what you seem to enjoy) and I'm not gonna request anything YET, but hey I might have a song for Chuck after watching today's video. Give Big D & The Kids Table - "L.A.X" a try. React to it or don't. Just please let Chuck know this song exists as it MAY contain a lot of well placed F bombs. Take care guys.
Haha added it to the request list for ya! -Joel
Yes. One of my favorite song ever.
I think the whole song is about the "scene" people (bands and fans) who pat themselves on their backs because they listen to rock and "rebel" music, or alternative music, whatever, and think they are changing the world because of that, but instead, they reproduce all the BS they are suppossed to be against, like being though guys, etc. so, if it is that way, he would much rather go back to his old job a The Motor League (Which is, I believe, a car dealership in Canada) and have a normal job, than being part of that scene.
They have always been notorious for antagonizing their own audiences, being kind of preachy, but the song also has a hint of self criticism, when he sings about how this behaviour he is pointing out to be annoying him, reminds him of his own history, being he himself in the past also a though aggressive guy. So, he is just saying, he knows all too well all about that, so he would rather work a regular job than being a pretend rebel.
LOVE this song!
I remember at the time this song came out, maybe 98 or so, there was a little bit of a Christian metalcore trend in hardcore and it combined with a bit of a tough guy attitude that not everyone liked. The “Amy Grant Mosh Crews” reference, Looking back, it’s a bit obscure. Lol. It totally hasn’t aged well.
I’m not Christian but I still love Christian hc from that era lol
@@_D_E_N_N_I_S_ same. Zao, Strongarm, Living Sacrifice…
@@joemiller7082 yes sir. facedown records entire roster was great. Some of the heaviest and most violent sounding bands were Christian. Bloody Sunday. A love for enemies. There was a metal wave too, as I lay dying, under oath around this era, august burns red etc. there’s nothing better than the end breakdown of “the harvest-alove for enemies “ where during a heavier than average breakdown they are doing crowd chants of “it’s time to rise and fight for Christ “
About fucking time!!
love this song, it just wants to headbutt you
On the subject of Canadian punk bands, I reckon you should check out "Subhuman Nature" by Belvedere. I have a feeling Chuck will enjoy one particular part of that one 😆
Added it! 🤘-Joel
Do your research Boys. A 4 Effort
This entire song is aimed at what they dislike about the punk and hardcore scenes so I don't think "Amy Grant mosh crews" is aimed at Amy Grant as much as either 1) The prevalence of Christianity in the Hardcore scene at the time ... OR ... 2) Amy Grant as just a lame kind of VH1 artist. Prop made fun of "MTV Punks" a lot in that era as Offspring and Green Day were blowing up and VH1 is just a step more embarrassing.
Selling shoes for venture capitalists is a shot at the Vans Warped Tour. For more on this check out the dis tracks between NOFX and Propagandhi with Rock Against Sustainable Capitalism (Prop) and One Celled Creature (NOFX).
PLEASE LISTEN TO LAX by Big D and the kids table if you want F-bombs
Got that one in our request list already 🤘🙃 -Joel