Natural Swimming Pond Start to Finish

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  • Опубліковано 4 вер 2024
  • Video, commentary and photos of our pool/pond in process.

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  • @iamasickman
    @iamasickman 7 років тому +35

    I've been watching a lot of these natural pool videos lately, and yours has, by far, the best music of any of them so far.

  • @organicpools-davidpaganbutler
    @organicpools-davidpaganbutler 7 років тому +35

    Hi Aaron, you have made a splendid pool and I am proud to be listed as one of your inspirations!

    • @apvsculpture
      @apvsculpture  7 років тому +6

      davidpaganbutler Thanks David, stop by next time you are in California!

    • @MarkMan2009
      @MarkMan2009 8 місяців тому

      Hi Aaron, I really like your video and the work you did.
      And actually want to do same exact thing as you did,so i would really appreciate if you can help me and send me a list of the products I need to buy,like what kind of pump,skimmer, filter....
      Thanks in advance.
      Merry Christmas and Happy new Year!!!

  • @mohit2010ify
    @mohit2010ify 6 років тому +18

    Truly amazing; could you answer couple of my questions
    1. What’s the cost of building this pool
    2. What’s the running cost in a month
    3. What the number and watt of motor you have used
    4. The list of plants used.
    Please don’t mind if you answered some of these questions in the video.
    I greatly appreciate your help.....

  • @AndersonDressage
    @AndersonDressage 3 роки тому

    This is such an amazing tutorial anyone can use and watch to start their own pond. 🙌🏻

  • @goldplatedbear2693
    @goldplatedbear2693 11 місяців тому

    really nice pond. brilliant design.

  • @brandon3636
    @brandon3636 6 років тому +7

    Could you please elaborate on the filtration system a little bit more, specifically what pump you used?

  • @michealwaldroup7913
    @michealwaldroup7913 2 роки тому +2

    Hey man! I love the pond! I’m in Dallas, TX and I want to make one. If you don’t mind me asking, how did you connect the corrugated pipe that runs in the filtered area to the piping that runs to your pump? Is there a converter pipe?
    Also, how did you get your retaining wall to stand since you can’t poke holes in the liner. Any help would be great! Thank you!
    -Micheal

  • @TheNightwalker247
    @TheNightwalker247 7 років тому +1

    great video and pool

  • @leafandstone.naturalpools
    @leafandstone.naturalpools Рік тому

    Lovely pool mate. The plastic pallets is genius and they have obviously held up the weight of the gravel thus far?

    • @apvsculpture
      @apvsculpture  Рік тому

      Yes, they have held up fine and they have a layer of beneficial bacteria, so you don’t really even notice them.

  • @homeownerssolutionsinyourh8971
    @homeownerssolutionsinyourh8971 4 роки тому

    Nice work APV!!

  • @kenlarsen5984
    @kenlarsen5984 3 роки тому +1

    Hey Aaron David has inspired me to build one too I was just curious what you used for your walls

  • @Gonthor1000
    @Gonthor1000 6 років тому +1

    This is awesome, I wonder after a few people swim around and stir up the water does it start to look foggy?

    • @apvsculpture
      @apvsculpture  6 років тому +3

      Gonthor1000 Congratulations, I think you are the first person to raise this question, I certainly found no mention of this when I was researching natural pools. Yes! Unless you vacuum the bottom so there is debris and it will be stirred up. The less algae and debris you have going into your pool the less of a problem this will be. After lots of trial and error I finally got this problem pretty much under control. The trick is to use jets on the bottom to create current which deposits most of the stuff in one spot. Then you can net or vacuum it out. It is more difficult in the summer months when the water temperature rises and the algae is at its strongest.

  • @janmeinecke8266
    @janmeinecke8266 5 років тому +2

    May i ask what the rough budget was for this? I always see, great job and want my own, but no one is really telling what this thing would take to build...
    And by the way...awesome job and thx for sharing...

    • @apvsculpture
      @apvsculpture  5 років тому

      Jan Meinecke It just depends on how much you want to do yourself. The liner, pumps, rocks, and plants can be easily priced out but it takes a little research.

    • @janmeinecke8266
      @janmeinecke8266 5 років тому

      @@apvsculpture Hello and thx for the answer...lets just ballpark...are we looking at 5, 10 or 50 grant?

  • @erikajessen3433
    @erikajessen3433 7 років тому +1

    I'm curious about the filter pipes. Are these just French drains with socks? Is this necessary? Can you get by with only perforated IE no sock cover? Thanks! great video!!!

    • @apvsculpture
      @apvsculpture  7 років тому

      Erika Jessen Yes, its perforated 4" pipe. You probably could get away with not having the sock but helps keep sand out.

  • @adriantepperman6123
    @adriantepperman6123 4 роки тому

    We are thinking of putting a pond at our place in Corvallis. Thanks for making the video! It would be awesome to make something like this. How much did it cost you to make?

  • @bop-ya-good
    @bop-ya-good 2 роки тому

    Is the water staying clean still mate?

  • @jgoch
    @jgoch 5 років тому

    Where did you get all your supplies? Plastic flow thru walls and liner?? I'd like to build my own. Did you just create the plans yourself?

  • @BeautifuLakesStreamsBiologists
    @BeautifuLakesStreamsBiologists 6 років тому

    Aaron, a couple Qs: do you notice the pallets much while you are swimming? and ... Why do you think a high pH is bad? That's a new one to us.

  • @SG25
    @SG25 4 роки тому

    What are other options for the retaining wall? Beautiful by the way.

  • @gensam1380
    @gensam1380 6 років тому +1

    Hi. How much actually you made that pool? Thanks. I really love it

  • @kevinp6025
    @kevinp6025 7 років тому +1

    Really awesome man! I have just recently discovered natural swimming ponds/pools and couldn't find a video of a deep pool until yours.
    Did you need any permits? How much did it cost, and how much of the work did you do? Also, how warm is your water? I am not sure if there is an issue with water being too warm and allowing microbes and what not to grow.
    Also, how long did it take from first digging to completion?

    • @apvsculpture
      @apvsculpture  7 років тому

      The deeper ponds stay cooler, ours is around 65 degrees right now. As far as permits, yes you should always check your local ordinances.
      I did much of the work myself, except for the excavation and it took about 7 months. Is it ever finished?

    • @kevinp6025
      @kevinp6025 7 років тому

      So what was your total cost?

    • @lrvracer3515
      @lrvracer3515 7 років тому

      What is your water source ? Is it natural rain water/runoff, or did you dig a water supply well ?

    • @apvsculpture
      @apvsculpture  7 років тому +1

      Kevin P It's fairly easy to put together a price list of all the stuff you'll need. The big ones for me were the solar system and the liner. Solar panels, controller, pump and wire were about $3200. The liner with the underliner was also around $3000. Then there's the excavation, rocks and all the other miscellaneous stuff. If you follow some peoples methods you could make these pools fairly cheap. Other methods you'll spend about the same as a normal swimming pool.

    • @apvsculpture
      @apvsculpture  7 років тому

      LRV Racer My water source is rainwater and the occasional top off from my well.

  • @B1GR
    @B1GR 6 років тому

    Great vid, regarding your plants, are you planting into plastic buckets buried in the gravel or directly into the gravel? How'd you get such dense foliage around the perimeter, looks like a solid line of plants, do they spread or are you always planting. Do you have to cut everything back for winter? Would also be curious to know if the retaining wall is holding or starting to give in places, plastic pallets are an interesting idea.

    • @apvsculpture
      @apvsculpture  6 років тому

      Ryan Edde I plant directly in the gravel except for my water lilies which prefer rich soil, those are in pots. A lot of the plants I got from local streams and they do fine as well as various mints and watercress. I’m not able to grow water hyacinths for some reason they just don’t take off. The retaining walls are super solid.

  • @yovino4862
    @yovino4862 2 роки тому

    Nice

  • @justinharrison1657
    @justinharrison1657 6 років тому +1

    How do you get the retaining wall fixed in place? Do you have to pierce the liner to make sure they stay in place?

    • @apvsculpture
      @apvsculpture  6 років тому

      justin harrison
      There have been many people inquiring about this if you read through the comments. But no never pierce the liner!

  • @tmwilson0282
    @tmwilson0282 7 років тому +2

    What thickness liner did you use? There is a lot of savings between 40 and 45 mil. Also what brand? Thanks

    • @apvsculpture
      @apvsculpture  7 років тому

      tmwilson0282 45 EPDM is the way to go!

  • @peggyphilyaw7525
    @peggyphilyaw7525 Рік тому

    LOVE

  • @reddmanpower606
    @reddmanpower606 6 років тому +2

    Are fish able to live in that water. Or is this just for swimming.

    • @apvsculpture
      @apvsculpture  6 років тому +1

      redd manpower We have 4 koi, one bass and lots of mosquito fish.

  • @DsmB2007
    @DsmB2007 7 років тому

    Fantastic!! Have you tried keeping the NON-Solar pump off, while only circulating with the solar pump? Just wondering if you'd have an algae bloom without the grid tied pump?
    I'm hoping to follow David Pagan Butler's system and only use air lift pumps.
    Thanks
    Daniel

    • @apvsculpture
      @apvsculpture  7 років тому +1

      Hello Daniel Bonaire, I have had huge enormous string algae blooms with both pumps on. I have been battling the string algae and recently winning, by slowly lowering the ph and adding an AquaSphere which releases beneficial bacteria and enzymes over a period of one month. Not sure where you're located but here in California string algae is a real challenge for a lot of pond owners.
      The problem with only running a pump during the day is that the beneficial bacteria need oxygenated water running past them all time to survive. You might be able to pull it off you just have to try! It's more complicated than having the plants out complete the algae for nutrients, unfortunately.

    • @DsmB2007
      @DsmB2007 7 років тому

      I'm from the Northeast near Boston. Thanks so much for the feedback. The airlift system that David uses appears to use less power. Maybe more plant life?? But, I guess each area of the country will have different problems/issues. Thanks again. Daniel

  • @Somtingwongg
    @Somtingwongg 7 років тому

    thats kick ass dude!

  • @MrQreed
    @MrQreed 7 років тому

    Pool looks great... I am currently planning a natural pool similar to yours, not as big 19ft*25ft*6ft deep. I am going use a bio chem filter and restoration area combo too due to space. Been doing my research on this and am glad to see a California pool done being that I live up in Sacramento, I would like to know what issue to be ready for maintenance wise when it comes to our climate.

    • @apvsculpture
      @apvsculpture  7 років тому

      Make sure you keep it partially shaded and provide 50% planted area to swim area. Make the bottom contour sloped to the deepest end for easy cleaning, a bottom drain can be helpful. Keep up with string algae growth with barley straw extract.

    • @enrgylife
      @enrgylife 7 років тому

      I'm by Grass Vally and am starting to plan mine out. Want to consult?

    • @apvsculpture
      @apvsculpture  7 років тому

      Anemij Jimena Sure, we could work something out.

  • @altenbrah6380
    @altenbrah6380 6 років тому

    love it brah ! great job. can't wait to get building mine. I def plan to use that pallet idea for the R-walls ! I plan to make natural lap pool - pretty much long rectangle with shallow areas around. Could you elaborate on how the pallet walls are vertically stable ? is it due to the all the walls being connected in the octagon shape and the bottom board simply rest on the EDBM liner ? or do you have it mounted , or weighted somehow ? Any inputs you could share would be greatly appreciated. Peace. Mark / San Diego, Ca

    • @apvsculpture
      @apvsculpture  6 років тому +1

      Brah,
      Sounds like a great pond you are designing. If you have the budget, work in as many filtration devices as you can, it gets hot in SD! Consider making your planted area separate from the swim zone so you can clean it. If you go the traditional NWP method, utilize deck to shade shallow areas or only put the planted area on one side so the water is sure to circulate thoroughly. The plastic pallet design I made is screwed together in an L shape so that the gavel is holding it down, simple and strong. One pallet makes a complete L section.
      Good luck!

    • @altenbrah6380
      @altenbrah6380 6 років тому

      Uber thanks brada. That's some good advice, right in line with what i was thinking. With the available space, I kinda have to make the plant zone on the side, as well as use that same side for a sidewalk (now thinking deck / dock over shallows ) . Love the L design and see how the gravel is used for counter weight. keeping an eye out for some. As for additional filtration, I hope to incorporate as many innovative airlift pumps (DPB designs ) throughout along with a water pump. Does the planted area have to be 1:1 sq footage to the swim zone? .... Do the cattails do well ? thanks for the help. I'm building this pool about 20 miles south in Baja for the beach house. Hope you would reach out if you ever cross the border in search of adventure. Hope to have some good pool time for the swells & sunsets. Peace.

    • @apvsculpture
      @apvsculpture  6 років тому

      Alten Brah
      I’ll be driving through Baja in November, would love to check it out if the pond is under construction. The 1:1 ratio is the NSP formula but if you incorporate a bead filter or another biological filter it doesn’t matter. Make sure that your bottom contour makes it easy to vacuum. If you make it really deep in one spot make sure there is either a bottom drain or a pump outlet down there to keep things moving.

    • @apvsculpture
      @apvsculpture  6 років тому

      Alten Brah
      Also, not sure if I mentioned this but you need to have a scammer because there’s always stuff falling or blowing into the pond!

  • @hawk2fan
    @hawk2fan 5 років тому

    Very cool

  • @yawendeng2550
    @yawendeng2550 7 років тому

    That is so awesome!!!! I like your ideas of using recycled plastic pallets!! Where did you get them and what type?? Thanks!!

    • @apvsculpture
      @apvsculpture  7 років тому +2

      Yawen Deng I just went around and looked for something that would work and they seemed like a good fit. You should be able to find them used somewhere.

    • @yawendeng2550
      @yawendeng2550 7 років тому +1

      Hi Aaron - we finally got all the pallets in! Now it is time to connect and build the wall. Thanks so much for your great idea! How did you connect the pallets and make it stable? Thanks!

    • @apvsculpture
      @apvsculpture  7 років тому +1

      Yawen Deng Send some pictures! I used stainless steel screws

    • @morelandhills5372
      @morelandhills5372 7 років тому +1

      apvsculpture we haven't put together yet. I saw you also have cedar wood on top and the bottom to secure them? I will send some pictures when we have them up!!

    • @brandonhunterthematerialha7333
      @brandonhunterthematerialha7333 4 роки тому +3

      @@apvsculpture hey working in building a pond here in Indianapolis IN. really lived the idea with the pallets. It looks like you chopped some of them in half to stifren the bottom. How did the pallet walls hold up? Also did you have issues with rocks going through the holes?

  • @MrBudddz
    @MrBudddz 7 років тому

    Have you had much success with controlling the string algae blooms? Any tips? We live in northern Mendocino County CA and we are converting our existing pool to an NSP.

    • @apvsculpture
      @apvsculpture  7 років тому

      I'm planning on putting up a video about my string algae experience. I would build as many filtering mechanisms as you can into that pool you are converting.

  • @trilogysamsung1486
    @trilogysamsung1486 7 років тому

    how many plastic wood pallets in total? and how did you secured them on the bottom? screwed to anything...thx

    • @apvsculpture
      @apvsculpture  7 років тому +2

      Trilogy Samsung 1 I'm not sure around 30 maybe. Stainless steel screws attach the cut pallets to form an 'L' shape, gravel holds it in place.

  • @wildcrow2858
    @wildcrow2858 7 років тому

    Hello - I sincerely hope you can help us. Our pond has been excavated and we are ready to order a 50'x55' liner so our pond is pretty close in size to yours. We are struggling with what size/kind of pond pump to install. What gph pump are you using? 2",3" or ?" size piping sending water from pump back to the pond?
    In other comments you mention fighting algae. Would a larger pump help solve that problem?
    I really can't believe I found your video because you have built a nearly identical pond to what we have excavated except we have included a 20' long 5' above ground waterfall to return water to the pond. I think ours will hold 24,000 gallons.
    I hope you can help us as we are ready to move forward but I am afraid I will be making the wrong pump/piping decisions so I am stalled. I wish I could chat with you for a few minutes.
    You have done an awesome job!

    • @apvsculpture
      @apvsculpture  7 років тому

      Wild Crow Your pump should recirculate your 24,000 gallons at least twice in 12 hours. The more filtration the better! Are you in warm weather, full sun? Most of the pumps this size can be plumbed for 2" or 3", mine are 2" (I have two pumps). Not sure how to safely share email address without getting spammed...

    • @wildcrow2858
      @wildcrow2858 7 років тому

      Sorry for the delay I had some major computer problems.
      I guess my biggest question is the difference between the size of the plumping going to the pumps(s) versus the size of the plumbing coming out of the pump.
      I plan on sending water to the pump(s) via a 4" from the upper bio grid (like yours), another 4" from the bottom (the deepest) and of course the skimmer. I plan on a 2" from the pump to a waterfall, a fountain (instead of your upper jet) and, like yours, a bottom feeding jet.
      It just seems odd that I am supplying a lot of water into the pump yet discharging much less back to the pond. My concern is whether having more flowing in (2x4"+skimmer) with only a 2" and a couple of jets back to the pond will move the water well enough to keep the water clean.
      Regarding our location we are in Indianapolis, In.. The pond is surrounded by 10 trees on one side and an outdoor horse arena on the other side. The pond will good sun in the A.M and full sun in the P.M. We believe we have a handle on controlling the falling leaves with our skimmer design
      I cannot express how much I appreciate you communicating with me regarding our pond. Hopefully I will have this project complete in the next month or so and I upload a video and provide you a link.

    • @brandonhunterthematerialha7333
      @brandonhunterthematerialha7333 4 роки тому

      @@wildcrow2858 did you ever finish your pond I am in Indianapolis and also working on a swimming pond I would love to chat

  • @RxGuy95
    @RxGuy95 7 років тому +1

    What happens if the drain tile clogs? How do you service it?

    • @apvsculpture
      @apvsculpture  7 років тому +1

      I can't see all those holes clogging. I have seen another pond like this in existence for 15 years with no problems. However, if they were to clog up it would be a tremendous effort to remove all the rocks to get to the pipes. If you are really worried about it you should make a bio filter that is easily serviceable.

    • @RxGuy95
      @RxGuy95 7 років тому

      I think for housing they now use a sock type covering on the pipe to reduce the likelihood of clogs. Thx for reply.

    • @idahoduckhunter
      @idahoduckhunter 4 роки тому +2

      @@RxGuy95 The sock type covering actually clogs up itself by not allowing enough water through so be careful.

  • @somsongcharoenpon168
    @somsongcharoenpon168 3 роки тому

    If I win a lottery I would love to do this 🤓

  • @justinharrison1657
    @justinharrison1657 7 років тому +1

    Good job man! How deep is it?

  • @enrgylife
    @enrgylife 7 років тому

    What was the final costs associated with building this?

    • @apvsculpture
      @apvsculpture  7 років тому +2

      Anemij Jimena There are no final costs, the spending continues.

  • @efi_m
    @efi_m 7 років тому

    Hi Aaron.. I love the video.. your step by step description of the process and the illustrations were helpful to us starting out. I am currently designing one for our house and I do have a few questions if that's okay.
    1. Did you put a fibre layer under the EPDM layer?
    2. Did you layer different types of gravel in the biofilter?
    3. Would you recommend placing beach or river sand on the bottom on top of the EPDM layer?

    • @apvsculpture
      @apvsculpture  7 років тому +1

      Ephraim Muchemi
      1. Yes
      2. No
      3.Only put rock on the sides so you can vacuum out the swim zone.

    • @efi_m
      @efi_m 7 років тому

      Many thanks for the help. Highly appreciated! Can't wait to see the pond's updates and see how it is thriving. All the best!!

  • @kathrynchuck7024
    @kathrynchuck7024 7 років тому

    Hi Aaron, your pool is beautiful!
    I am hoping to convert an exisiting pool to a NSP, I am interested to know is your regeneration area the same as your swim area? I have heard lots of conflicting advice so far.....
    Thanks,
    Kat

    • @apvsculpture
      @apvsculpture  7 років тому +1

      Kathryn Chuck
      As you may have learned, the standard rule is to do half swimming area to half regeneration zone. I'm sure you could get away with less if you have good recirculation. Just make sure that the concrete of the pool isn't going to leach into your water and raise the pH. You will need to find a way to seal the concrete or put a liner over it. Good luck!

    • @kathrynchuck7024
      @kathrynchuck7024 7 років тому

      Thanks for your response, yes we will definately have a liner as the pool is made from blocks. Approx how deep did you dig to lay the pipe work around?

    • @apvsculpture
      @apvsculpture  7 років тому +1

      Kathryn Chuck I put about anywhere from 10 to 18" of filter rock over my plumbing. Your main goal is to provide an ideal habitat for the beneficial bacteria.

  • @ambermcfadden3520
    @ambermcfadden3520 6 років тому

    You did an amazing job 😀

  • @egocrazy6
    @egocrazy6 5 років тому

    Could you estimate the cost of this build? I understand it’s an ongoing process.

    • @apvsculpture
      @apvsculpture  5 років тому +1

      Hunter valenti About $15k for the basics

  • @idahoduckhunter
    @idahoduckhunter 6 років тому +3

    Any concern on your retaining walls failing? Are they starting to give a little? Either this one with recycled pallets and wood or your other video with the retaining wall made of all wood.

    • @B1GR
      @B1GR 6 років тому +1

      Would love to know the same.

  • @boofert.washington2499
    @boofert.washington2499 4 роки тому

    Someone is gonna get hurt on that jump. They're gonna poke their eye out.

  • @mitch511
    @mitch511 7 років тому

    how much total did it cost?

    • @apvsculpture
      @apvsculpture  7 років тому +1

      Mitch Spruyt I don't know, I'm still spending.

    • @dztrbdgod
      @dztrbdgod 5 років тому

      @@apvsculpture have you finished spending yet? If not, how deep into it are you?

  • @daleolson3506
    @daleolson3506 Місяць тому

    The music junked another video 👎👎👎👎💩💩😬

  • @robertforrest7956
    @robertforrest7956 5 років тому +2

    Doesn't look natural at all....sorry.

  • @shairaholman
    @shairaholman 2 роки тому

    Hi I like what you were trying to do but using plastic is a huge fail. Plastic is terrible and is not natural, very toxic and It leeches into the soil try another way Benenite, gleying or clay compaction. Please rename, take out natural or it just looks like more green washing. Cheers and thanks for listening

    • @apvsculpture
      @apvsculpture  2 роки тому +1

      The liner is actually rubber. The birds, frogs and fish are happy to have the habitat. 👍🏻👍🏻