My friend spent time in louisiana building perouges and mudmotors. They have been around since the creation of the lawnmower.out of necessity its their ancient history.I salute the Cajun Navy.Good Job
Great video and comparison. Vary detailed. And unlike others I appreciate the demonstration of how flimsy the import kits are. I almost bought one....extremely glad I saw this first.
Young man that was one hell of a demonstration! Especially the rocks! I know what I will be putting on my boat now, I was on the fence so to speak. You helped to clear things up comp!etely! Thank you!
TYVM Backwater Pro. for u'r Time, Expense, & all it involved to SHARE this with other. Congrats on a FINE Project & Product. U'r research & Development shows. ALOHA.
When I get the money I'll be purchasing from you for sure. I'll be honest Everyone up here in Wisconsin seems to run beaver tail or go devil. I can tell your product can handle more abuse and has a lot of R&D put into the design. Good product! Keep it up.
backwater mud motors are the best on the market, best looking, longest lasting, unit there is. I bought a 13 hp v-twin unit and love the performance and quality. the guys at backwater provide unmatched service.
A shorter shaft also means more torque from the engine to the prop too. If you're trying to get through a bunch of vegetation, that is important that you have plenty of torque.
Have sps with 200 Honda good reliable rig. Is backwater better? Maybe would love to see side by side comparison on same boat with same power head. To get backwater to Canada would be about 3 times price of sps. Think this video of comparing worst mud motor to most expensive is just stupid. If backwater is so good compare to sps!
Old video but i thought id comment anyway. Im curious if the longer shaft is actually a good thing allowing the prop to ride where the wakes cross instead pf closer to the back of the boat.
I bought the swamp runner kit and I have had no issues with it, also I haven't heard from anyone that has had issues I would check them out before you buy a backwater kit
The bendable skeg is by design to assist in straight tracking with a variety of boat types. This allows people to fine tune it to their boat if needed.
My question on this particular kit,,,with the motor and the kit bolted together,,,in a pry bar situation hard ground under water,,,hitting cypress knees,,logs in dead snags,,I don’t understand the,,,, no bracing ,,,,looks like you would crack the engine casing,,I have a go devil that is braced like some of your bigger models,,where the engine sits on a plate and the tails is braced to the plate as well,,,pry bar situation,,,will it hold up
@@jerryriggedadventures3173 no pods, might get them later to see how much stability they have. 19-21 without all the duck gear.. Fully loaded ( blind, another person, all the gear) I still plane out just fine, I forget what speed I hit.
I need to find out how long do you need the mud motor with a 20 inch tranche. I got a backwater for my 1448 with 15in. Tranche, my father said it will fit on both tranche, I told him it wouldn’t work and he said it will. Will you send some thing to tell him what will fit the 20in tranche. I bought my backwater to fit the 15in. Tranche, not a 20in. Tranche. I hope you will get back with me.
I would buy a mud motor kit but the internet sites want way to damn much money for them and one still has to supply the engine himself...I won't buy an eBay kit either the shipping on those are as much as the kit itself and still don't include an engine ...so that being said I won't be buying untill the prices become reasonable...
parabéns pelo video amigo comprei uma rabeta desa aí que o amigo testou a marca é turbo tornado da meghi eu logo notei que eles tentaram copiar a sua a rabeta é boa para navegar em águas limpas sem vegetação mas nem se compara com a sua gostaria ter uma igual a sua.sou do brasil.
Congratulations for the video friend I bought a tail dude there that the friend tested the brand is turbo tornado of the meghi I soon noticed that they tried to copy his the tail is good to sail in clean water without vegetation but neither compares with yours would like to have a Same as Brazil, I'm from Brazil. Loosely translated by google.
Comparing all import kits to the Backwater is not really fair. You should name the import kit you are showing. Thai companies CLP and SPS both make good products meant for simplicity of repair in a very poor part of the world. I have seen the SPS and CLP kits and they are very nice and feature most of the items the Backwater show here. The Thai and Vietnamese have been using these since around the 1950s so let's not dicount their products just cause it's not Merican Made.
The motor he compares to is not a motor for weeds and mud. It is a motor for transportation. He should have at least compared it to an sps or cks kit. No doubt though the backwater is a great kit.
I don't own one but i eventually will on my next boat. If you have to buy 3 kits for the life of one product it's worth it. Ithink this video shows it's at least less overall maintenance.
good vid,,,get what you pay for....you say bit more....some say 2 x more and others say 3 x more $ going to have to research myself.....but what have seen deff. engineered better/more durable and adjustable where needed.....made anywhere other than china usually/always better....opinion.
u are being way to biased in this video we all kno that your product is built heavier duty but not everyone can afford wat yours cost id love to have one of yours but if i cant afford it all the love wont put me in the water,just saYING
If you can't afford the Backwater kit, then you can't afford it and will have to go with the import. This video shows the weak points in the import's design and might let you spend the extra time and money to correct them....where they can be corrected....before they strand you out in the marsh. You've heard the old "pay me now or pay me later" saw?? Well, that's surely applicable here.
SPS Swamp Runner,.. the originator Get the original from day one and have no regrets,.. So funny to see domestic manufacturers copy/ clone the SPS then take stabs at the original design,.. No one makes a tougher no nonsense longtail than SPS,.. and SPS is a fraction of the price. I'll take the SPS, you guys can all have your "improved" varieties. How many of the Backwater kits are running around southeast Asia?,.. can you name even one example? Mmmmmm i wonder why?
You have a better kit. You are in a tough market trying to compete with a Chinese price on a product that is low cost driven to start with. I thought the prop in the rocks was stupid. If you take a mower and run over a brick you'll need a blade. People running rocks run pitch forks. Yours will tear up just like the aluminum if you act stupid. There is a market for both kits. You don't make your light shine brighter by putting someone else's out. Good luck, but that's poor marketing.
David, we appreciate the comment and agree one shouldn't tear others down just to make themselves look better. That is not why we made this video. Inexpensive kits do have their place, but lots of people don't realize how much difference there is between them and what we build. Yes, nothing is indestructible, and we don't recommend running rocks if you can help it. However, we do want to show people in the market for a motor that they can expect significantly better durability and performance from our units so they can make an informed decision about which way to go. Thank you for your sincere input and have a great weekend.
I DON'T agree David ! As a hobby I've spent a LIFE TIME & a small fortune ( NOT WASTED ) ( I've learned a lot, and STILL do everyday) Comparing Different BREEDS of ANYTHING From Food to, Household, Garden to Air, Auto, Boat, whatever ? THIS IS an Excellent Product PERIOD.
@@BackwaterProductions I've have regular outboards and tunnel hulls all my. I'm in the market now for a mud motor and kit. Thank for this demo, I didn't know any were made in USA. I would have bought a knock off, and I know the cheap kit wouldn't last in my bayou and marsh, after seeing your video.
Hello. I understand you design is classified as a "Mud Motor" I do not know if you read comments any more. last comment here was 3 yrs ago. But I just saw this video and liked it. What is called a "Thai Longtail" is not a Mud Motor. Only water over 3 meters deep and no obstacles. I agree you found the worse copy of a Thai longtail kit ever made to show the flaws. TRUTH HERE OK -- Thailand did not Invent the LONG TAIL --Chinese Invented the LONG TAIL . Research that if you wish. I have no engineering degree -- But I Engineer and Build many things that never excisted in the the Agricultural Arena. Including Aquaculture and Flooded rice fields. Your backwater products are durable and handle tough conditions. I make that point know. But in your comparison and Telling the GREAT POINTS OF BACKWATERS DESIGN YOU DONT EVEN REALIZE YOU ARE ADMITTING YOUR HYDRAULIC -HYDRODYNAMIC DESIGN IS TOTALLY FLAWED- But you compare FLAWED Design to Cheaper FLAWED Design. YOU STATE THE GREAT STRENGHT AND ADJUSTABILITY OF YOUR are you ready ? CAVITATION PLATE !! Almost all humans dont know what Cavitation is. CAVITATION IS VERY BAD IN HYDRODYNAMICS HYDRAULICS AND AERODYNAMICS !! - Yes AIR IS A FLUID ! IT CONTAINS MOISTURE -WATER-Its called Humidity ! That being said and true--Any hydrodynamic propulsion system design that requires a ANTI CAVITATION PLATE (tell the truth what your design is. Its to Stop Cavitation Correct? Not make it !! NAME IT CORRECTLY PLEASE !! ANTI CAVITATION PLATE !!!!! Big difference. Your Design REQUIRES AN ANTI CAVITATION PLATE SURROUNDING PART OF THE WATER FLOW AROUND THE PROPELLER TO REDUCE CAVITATION-CAVITATION IS BAD !! You are Truthfully stating your design needs a CAvitation Plate to work correctly !! ADMITTING YOUR FINAL DRIVE HAS CAVITATION PROBLEMS THAT YOU ATTEMT TO REDUCE USING A CAVITATION PLATE !! IF YOUR ENGINEERING AND DESIGN OF YOUR FINAL DRIVE IS CORRECT YOU DO NOT NEED AN ANTI CAVITATION PLATE AS CORRECT HYDRODYNAMIC PROPULSION DESIGN DOES NOT HAVE CAVITATION AND NO NEED FOR ANTI CAVITATION PLATE ! YOU ARE BLATANTLY TAKEING YOUR DESIGN FLAW AND SELLING TO UNKNOWING CUSTOMERS THAT THE "CAVITATION PLATE" IS A BONUS OF QUALITY !! WHEN IT IS ACTUALLY ACKNOWLEDGING YOUR OWN DESIGN FLAWS !! Only Stating TRUTH !! Go Research CAVITATION --IT IS ALWAYS BAD !!! Please STOP FALSE ADVERTISING TO UNKNOWING HUMANS !! Solid Build Quality. But Bad Also : )
YOU SHOULD NEVER NEED ANY PLATE OVER THE PROPELLER- YOURS IS AN ANTI CAVITATION PLATE_NOT CAVITATION PLATE !! CAVITATION IN FLUID IS VERY VERY VERY BAD !! YOUR DESIGN HAS MUCH CAVITATION AT THE PROPELLER SO YOU TRY REDUCE THE BAD WITH A ANTI CAVITATION PLATE !! HYDRODYNAMICS AND HYDRAULICS !! NEEDING THAT PLATE IS BAD NOT GOOD !!! STOP MISLEADING VIEWERS !!!!
Great Video Jake! I've had my Backwater shaft for about 3 years now and love it!!
My friend spent time in louisiana building perouges and mudmotors. They have been around since the creation of the lawnmower.out of necessity its their ancient history.I salute the Cajun Navy.Good Job
Great video and comparison. Vary detailed. And unlike others I appreciate the demonstration of how flimsy the import kits are. I almost bought one....extremely glad I saw this first.
Young man that was one hell of a demonstration! Especially the rocks! I know what I will be putting on my boat now, I was on the fence so to speak. You helped to clear things up comp!etely! Thank you!
TYVM Backwater Pro. for u'r Time, Expense, & all it involved to SHARE this with other. Congrats on a FINE Project & Product. U'r research & Development shows. ALOHA.
When I get the money I'll be purchasing from you for sure. I'll be honest Everyone up here in Wisconsin seems to run beaver tail or go devil. I can tell your product can handle more abuse and has a lot of R&D put into the design. Good product! Keep it up.
backwater mud motors are the best on the market, best looking, longest lasting, unit there is. I bought a 13 hp v-twin unit and love the performance and quality. the guys at backwater provide unmatched service.
A shorter shaft also means more torque from the engine to the prop too. If you're trying to get through a bunch of vegetation, that is important that you have plenty of torque.
Hello my friend how long the spear is from the engine to the propeller drive
Ok, I'm sold!!!
Have sps with 200 Honda good reliable rig. Is backwater better? Maybe would love to see side by side comparison on same boat with same power head. To get backwater to Canada would be about 3 times price of sps. Think this video of comparing worst mud motor to most expensive is just stupid. If backwater is so good compare to sps!
How big was the boat that these kits were tested on?
I like the tougher parts, but they need a longer shaft. I prefer a lower angle, and you can build a mount about 12" forward of the transom.
Will you post to Thailand?
10 times better at twice the price, its a no brainer, buy the Back water!
"poor man cant afford cheap tools"
Made me a believer lol!!
What kind of boat is that? I like how narrow it is
How about backwater vs a swamp water or beverdam?
Old video but i thought id comment anyway. Im curious if the longer shaft is actually a good thing allowing the prop to ride where the wakes cross instead pf closer to the back of the boat.
I bought the swamp runner kit and I have had no issues with it, also I haven't heard from anyone that has had issues I would check them out before you buy a backwater kit
I see Backwater is about double in price. I'm in the market for one. U like shorter shaft and I'll buy Backwater, because its American made.
The bendable skeg is by design to assist in straight tracking with a variety of boat types. This allows people to fine tune it to their boat if needed.
was that the 14hp size?
how can i buy your product ?? specifically the long tail for the 6hp engine only
My question on this particular kit,,,with the motor and the kit bolted together,,,in a pry bar situation hard ground under water,,,hitting cypress knees,,logs in dead snags,,I don’t understand the,,,, no bracing ,,,,looks like you would crack the engine casing,,I have a go devil that is braced like some of your bigger models,,where the engine sits on a plate and the tails is braced to the plate as well,,,pry bar situation,,,will it hold up
Here we only use the aluminum prop and work just fine
amazing...hi what do i do to import one of this here tô brazil
I take my thai design anyday. Years of perfection.
Good afternoon, I would like to buy this product, I live in Brazil, how do I buy?
This import IS NOT a Swamp Runner BTW
In your review of the backwater kit, which engine do you have? I have a 1448 true flat bottom, and I'm curious if 13hp will do the trick. Thanks!
It’d work but I’d put a 23hp on it if I were you.
@@jerryriggedadventures3173 got the 23!
@@mitchell.peterson nice. Do you have pods or anything and what speeds are you getting although that’s not really the point
@@jerryriggedadventures3173 no pods, might get them later to see how much stability they have. 19-21 without all the duck gear.. Fully loaded ( blind, another person, all the gear) I still plane out just fine, I forget what speed I hit.
@@mitchell.peterson I have a 1448 mod v that I’m looking to get the backwater 23 for this summer
I need to find out how long do you need the mud motor with a 20 inch tranche. I got a backwater for my 1448 with 15in. Tranche, my father said it will fit on both tranche, I told him it wouldn’t work and he said it will. Will you send some thing to tell him what will fit the 20in tranche. I bought my backwater to fit the 15in. Tranche, not a 20in. Tranche. I hope you will get back with me.
It will work transom height or a few inches will not matter.
SO.. how big of a engine can I
put on it and what dia. shaft.
Sonny Landry yes I would like to know also ? I would imagine it would be the size of the plat attachment from motor to shaft.
Were can I get the cons kit
how can i buy your product ?? specifically the long tail for the 6hp engine only
I am very interested in your backwater kit
I liked the slow motion of rock strike,,,sold me,,and this crap will happen
I would buy a mud motor kit but the internet sites want way to damn much money for them and one still has to supply the engine himself...I won't buy an eBay kit either the shipping on those are as much as the kit itself and still don't include an engine ...so that being said I won't be buying untill the prices become reasonable...
parabéns pelo video amigo comprei uma rabeta desa aí que o amigo testou a marca é turbo tornado da meghi eu logo notei que eles tentaram copiar a sua a rabeta é boa para navegar em águas limpas sem vegetação mas nem se compara com a sua gostaria ter uma igual a sua.sou do brasil.
Congratulations
for the video friend I bought a tail dude there that the friend tested
the brand is turbo tornado of the meghi I soon noticed that they tried
to copy his the tail is good to sail in clean water without vegetation
but neither compares with yours would like to have a Same as Brazil, I'm from Brazil.
Loosely translated by google.
import kit in the water| 15:22
backwater kit in the water| 22:45
приму в дар твое творение.
это тваренье 2500$ стоит.зайди на сайт и посмотри на цены. удачи.
Comparing all import kits to the Backwater is not really fair. You should name the import kit you are showing. Thai companies CLP and SPS both make good products meant for simplicity of repair in a very poor part of the world. I have seen the SPS and CLP kits and they are very nice and feature most of the items the Backwater show here. The Thai and Vietnamese have been using these since around the 1950s so let's not dicount their products just cause it's not Merican Made.
2 X THE MONEY IS NOT A GOOD DEAL.
The motor he compares to is not a motor for weeds and mud. It is a motor for transportation. He should have at least compared it to an sps or cks kit. No doubt though the backwater is a great kit.
Logs i meant
Would love one but 1500$ is 3x what I got into the boat and a 20hp outboard.
I don't own one but i eventually will on my next boat. If you have to buy 3 kits for the life of one product it's worth it. Ithink this video shows it's at least less overall maintenance.
How much is the kit
Olá, moro no Brasil e gostaria de comprar está rabeta para motor 7hp gasolina
What is the price please of backwater
Pretty decent price, if I remember right, $1100 and up.
Here's their website.
www.backwaterinc.com/store/c3/Mud_Motor_Kits.html
LOOKS LIKE THAT IMPORT KIT WILL HELP YOUR SALES GREATY . ITS MADE OUT OF GUMBY MATERIAL !!
Awak boleh promosi prodak awak.ta salah pon ....tetepi jgn kondem dan burukkan prodak keluaran org lain..itu satu perangai yg ta baik
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I can rig three rigs with SPS longtails for the price of one Backwater
Brian Boyer yes you can if you want to stay in repair mode bro.
good vid,,,get what you pay for....you say bit more....some say 2 x more and others say 3 x more $
going to have to research myself.....but what have seen deff. engineered better/more durable and adjustable where needed.....made anywhere other than china usually/always better....opinion.
u are being way to biased in this video we all kno that your product is built heavier duty but not everyone can afford wat yours cost id love to have one of yours but if i cant afford it all the love wont put me in the water,just saYING
If you can't afford the Backwater kit, then you can't afford it and will have to go with the import. This video shows the weak points in the import's design and might let you spend the extra time and money to correct them....where they can be corrected....before they strand you out in the marsh. You've heard the old "pay me now or pay me later" saw?? Well, that's surely applicable here.
a meghi ja tiro o video do youtube ficou com vergonha kkkkk
What the manufacturer was thinking, money down the drain ... 👎😖
SPS Swamp Runner,.. the originator
Get the original from day one and have no regrets,..
So funny to see domestic manufacturers copy/ clone the SPS then take stabs at the original design,..
No one makes a tougher no nonsense longtail than SPS,.. and SPS is a fraction of the price.
I'll take the SPS, you guys can all have your "improved" varieties.
How many of the Backwater kits are running around southeast Asia?,.. can you name even one example? Mmmmmm i wonder why?
You can keep your import pos, there is no question to anyone who has two eyes and a brain that this is a much better product...
Ok we will sps for life i also prefer honda over harley quality faster more reliable 1/3 the price
🤣🤦🏼♂️
spoken like a dude with an SPS lol
ua-cam.com/video/pHG75CVuJg8/v-deo.html
Great 1 day of abuse!!!!
motors are too high tails too short not efficient poor handling
You have a better kit. You are in a tough market trying to compete with a Chinese price on a product that is low cost driven to start with. I thought the prop in the rocks was stupid. If you take a mower and run over a brick you'll need a blade. People running rocks run pitch forks. Yours will tear up just like the aluminum if you act stupid. There is a market for both kits. You don't make your light shine brighter by putting someone else's out. Good luck, but that's poor marketing.
David, we appreciate the comment and agree one shouldn't tear others down just to make themselves look better. That is not why we made this video. Inexpensive kits do have their place, but lots of people don't realize how much difference there is between them and what we build.
Yes, nothing is indestructible, and we don't recommend running rocks if you can help it. However, we do want to show people in the market for a motor that they can expect significantly better durability and performance from our units so they can make an informed decision about which way to go. Thank you for your sincere input and have a great weekend.
I DON'T agree David ! As a hobby I've spent a LIFE TIME & a small fortune ( NOT WASTED ) ( I've learned a lot, and STILL do everyday) Comparing Different BREEDS of ANYTHING From Food to, Household, Garden to Air, Auto, Boat, whatever ? THIS IS an Excellent Product PERIOD.
@@BackwaterProductions I've have regular outboards and tunnel hulls all my. I'm in the market now for a mud motor and kit. Thank for this demo, I didn't know any were made in USA. I would have bought a knock off, and I know the cheap kit wouldn't last in my bayou and marsh, after seeing your video.
@Nick DeJohn ua-cam.com/video/pHG75CVuJg8/v-deo.html
Hello. I understand you design is classified as a "Mud Motor" I do not know if you read comments any more. last comment here was 3 yrs ago. But I just saw this video and liked it. What is called a "Thai Longtail" is not a Mud Motor. Only water over 3 meters deep and no obstacles. I agree you found the worse copy of a Thai longtail kit ever made to show the flaws. TRUTH HERE OK -- Thailand did not Invent the LONG TAIL --Chinese Invented the LONG TAIL . Research that if you wish. I have no engineering degree -- But I Engineer and Build many things that never excisted in the the Agricultural Arena. Including Aquaculture and Flooded rice fields. Your backwater products are durable and handle tough conditions. I make that point know. But in your comparison and Telling the GREAT POINTS OF BACKWATERS DESIGN YOU DONT EVEN REALIZE YOU ARE ADMITTING YOUR HYDRAULIC -HYDRODYNAMIC DESIGN IS TOTALLY FLAWED- But you compare FLAWED Design to Cheaper FLAWED Design. YOU STATE THE GREAT STRENGHT AND ADJUSTABILITY OF YOUR are you ready ? CAVITATION PLATE !! Almost all humans dont know what Cavitation is. CAVITATION IS VERY BAD IN HYDRODYNAMICS HYDRAULICS AND AERODYNAMICS !! - Yes AIR IS A FLUID ! IT CONTAINS MOISTURE -WATER-Its called Humidity ! That being said and true--Any hydrodynamic propulsion system design that requires a ANTI CAVITATION PLATE (tell the truth what your design is. Its to Stop Cavitation Correct? Not make it !! NAME IT CORRECTLY PLEASE !! ANTI CAVITATION PLATE !!!!! Big difference. Your Design REQUIRES AN ANTI CAVITATION PLATE SURROUNDING PART OF THE WATER FLOW AROUND THE PROPELLER TO REDUCE CAVITATION-CAVITATION IS BAD !! You are Truthfully stating your design needs a CAvitation Plate to work correctly !! ADMITTING YOUR FINAL DRIVE HAS CAVITATION PROBLEMS THAT YOU ATTEMT TO REDUCE USING A CAVITATION PLATE !! IF YOUR ENGINEERING AND DESIGN OF YOUR FINAL DRIVE IS CORRECT YOU DO NOT NEED AN ANTI CAVITATION PLATE AS CORRECT HYDRODYNAMIC PROPULSION DESIGN DOES NOT HAVE CAVITATION AND NO NEED FOR ANTI CAVITATION PLATE ! YOU ARE BLATANTLY TAKEING YOUR DESIGN FLAW AND SELLING TO UNKNOWING CUSTOMERS THAT THE "CAVITATION PLATE" IS A BONUS OF QUALITY !! WHEN IT IS ACTUALLY ACKNOWLEDGING YOUR OWN DESIGN FLAWS !! Only Stating TRUTH !! Go Research CAVITATION --IT IS ALWAYS BAD !!! Please STOP FALSE ADVERTISING TO UNKNOWING HUMANS !! Solid Build Quality. But Bad Also : )
YOU SHOULD NEVER NEED ANY PLATE OVER THE PROPELLER- YOURS IS AN ANTI CAVITATION PLATE_NOT CAVITATION PLATE !! CAVITATION IN FLUID IS VERY VERY VERY BAD !! YOUR DESIGN HAS MUCH CAVITATION AT THE PROPELLER SO YOU TRY REDUCE THE BAD WITH A ANTI CAVITATION PLATE !! HYDRODYNAMICS AND HYDRAULICS !! NEEDING THAT PLATE IS BAD NOT GOOD !!! STOP MISLEADING VIEWERS !!!!