Many have said this so far, but this is a very important side of Neace. Here he shows us how to learn gracefully. He put any ego away had fun as he learned, and in the wake of an error he accepted it and welcomed the criticism. Many of his students will benefit dramatically from this vid.
@@joshuajohnson2532 I respect that! I decided to main Riven after I discovered that she has 4 dashes and since I've always been obsessed with dashing around like an idiot until I die. The wall jumps and flash engages are super fun too!
I like Colin man... whenever somebody does something he's saying correctly he gives an enthusiastic YES! good positive reaffirmation from the new coach
this title is cap, any champion that has an execute in their kit, and does burst dmg as a bruiser is not mechanically difficult, aa canceling is one of the easiest things to pick up in a game, riven's playstyle can carry over to other champions since shes bursty Fiora is alot more difficult since all of her dmg comes from vitals and you need to be positioned perfectly to get all of your dmg out(literally one of her combos to get the quickestult vital proc contains her flash, flash isnt apart of any kit) the positioning for riven is literally 'be ontop of the enemy', I will agree that her skill ceiling is high, but her skill floor is underground, anyone can pick up riven and insta nuke someone, fiora skill floor is high and her skill ceiling in high because of her vitals(are nothing like anything else in the game, like the aurelion sol of top lane, or something like singed uniqueness) can be seen and actively played against(reset) riven skill floor is underground and her skill ceiling is high
Please make a series out of this, I've been laughing my ass off through the entire video and it's honestly really helpful for me since there are some core concepts of the game that you get to see (+even if I don't play the champion it will help me beat her) Awesome vid Neace
See guys, in this video Neace is learning getting a coach for himself. What does that means? That Neace is ALWAYS learning stuff about the game and this is HUGE. NEACE is not an old and boring coach: he play, he have fun, he teach and he LEARN just like we do. In the future, those tips he got he is willing to give it back again to us. Best Coach, Neace cares about his followers.
@@wat4504 if you're decent by statistics. bad and good are just relative terms depending on who you talk to. But what I'm basically saying is that your reply was absolutely senseless, ignorant and unnecessary. Neace already reached challenger, He's done hundreds of coaching but he's still out here being coached and showing to us that even he has the humility to admit his own mistakes and learn Can you also say the same with Neace on this video? if so, then who the fuck are you and what was your peak rank?
This actually proves a point that i bring up a lot, that the most knowledge ones are the ones who are most likely to be open minded about learning new stuff, and not afraid to admite that they don't know something. This video is really cool because it shows that side of Neace. I've only recently got into playing League and your videos help a ton, im really gratefull that you upload this for free on youtube, you're a kind soul. Thank you so much for your top tier content
I'd actually really like to see you learn this champ in games. You are exactly the guy who would end up taloning around the map with riven, tilting everyone else off their game.
I'd like to see more of these high mechanical videos. Really useful for understanding how to play with or against a champion, without having to learn the champion in great detail or having to watch snippets of professional play.
I have watched you for a while, but this vid was beyond amazing I have to subscribe. Riven was one of the champs I tried back in season 5 but after watching this I have won 8 games straight with Riven. I had the fast combo down but I would have never thought to practice on scuttle to perfect it!!! 5 stars bro this was the best guide I have ever seen!
this probably my favorite coaching video ever . this synergy and energy of both is just so genuine and pure. I actually wanna learn riven even i hate toplane ^^
I love that Neace is so keen on swallowing his pride when he succeeds so as not to lose focus, and is always ready to move on to the next section of learning. You can always see a hint of a smile that instantly transitions back into attention
Damn im early After watching, all I have to saay is I learned so much. Riven is just not a champ for me but now I know her more for when im against her.
Super fun to watch, not even knowing this is a coaching Neace video at first. Btw, FYI, by watching and studying your coaching videos, I climbed from Silver 4 to Gold 3 in about 1 month. Thank you Neace.
Thanks for this vid! Everyone mentions the "animation cancels" on Riven but no one wants to actually show how to do them. This is why Neace is the best!
It's ridiculous. There's no champ in the game that has anywhere close to as many combo's. Most definitely the champion with the highest mechaincal celling.
@@matth4069 I think the closest difficulty champions as far as combos go are Zed, Qiyana, Jayce, Lee Sin, Fiora (4 vital proc), Yasuo (80% of the time its the same combo, but mastering the timing for his aa+e+q, especially with low attack speed, takes a lot of skill)
That was super fun to watch you getting coached too. It shows your viewers you understand that it’s scary to play new champions but you can overcome that timid phase if you try :D
I really liked seeing you also pausing occasionally when the coach said to do something. As a teacher it helps me to see a coach learning and doing the same thing students do. Gives perspective.
this title is cap, any champion that has an execute in their kit, and does burst dmg as a bruiser is not mechanically difficult, aa canceling is one of the easiest things to pick up in a game, riven's playstyle can carry over to other champions since shes bursty Fiora is alot more difficult since all of her dmg comes from vitals and you need to be positioned perfectly to get all of your dmg out(literally one of her combos to get the quickestult vital proc contains her flash, flash isnt apart of any kit) the positioning for riven is literally 'be ontop of the enemy', I will agree that her skill ceiling is high, but her skill floor is underground, anyone can pick up riven and insta nuke someone, fiora skill floor is high and her skill ceiling in high because of her vitals(are nothing like anything else in the game, like the aurelion sol of top lane, or something like singed uniqueness) can be seen and actively played against(reset) riven skill floor is underground and her skill ceiling is high
By far, one of ur best vids imo, i really enjoyed this session, was fun, educative.. if i can ask something more is that u do this for every toplane champ xD
this is an absolutely mind blowing experience to watch all this shit be explained. literally the difference between proper combos and just spamming q is like double the damage.
Something that can really help you land the q on the target is having the curser placed directly on what you're animation canceling. You can put your curser off them to lunge when you press q, as well. So you'd do that against matchups like illiao because it makes it hard to hit you when you're qing through her so much
This is awesome. Watching Neace work to better his game is encouraging to scrubs like me who have been playing casually for a long time and still suck.
I have played a lot of riven and honestly never really clicked to me that you can always have her q up if played correctly. That is honestly game changing
ive been religiously maining riven since the end of season 6, and nothing brings me more joy than showing off the cool tricks riven can do that people who dont play riven dont notice. ive coached many of my friends on the basics of riven and only then does it click for them how much riven is capable of, and it makes them realize the amount of work i put into perfecting my craft ;) simply playing riven, win or lose is enough to keep my hooked on league, shes just fun to play
Neace you do great work. You and your coworkers are amazing. Thank you so much for all the educational content you are making league a more fun and more intelligent place every day!
I love Neace's faces when he was shown some of those long combos xD "Where are my AA stat sticks, maaaaaan" BTW dude, Riven fills the Smash Bros analogy to perfection... I haven't even played toplaners... xD
I know it’s probably going to be in the description of all ur videos but I’d recommend putting the coaching channel on your “accounts” tab of this channel! Would make it easier to get to esp on phones. I like the vid as usual tho makes me want to play her again. I mained riven for a solid year or longer in middle school back in like s3 lmao
When he goes OMG... so relatable. That IS what they are doing the whole time. As a kind pf Riven Main I always do this but I didn't actually conceptualize it. It's dirty af
I've played riven for 20+ games and you did all the combos better first try then I've every done them. Guess I'm bronze 3 for a reason lmao Great content, helped a ton.
even if you dont play riven it helps laning against them, probably for u too neace as u stated in the video multiple times of how u saw what they were doing but didnt know exactly what.
I just started maining her and then you make this video, bro you are the best and you totally knew i started maining her before you made this video :DDD
For anyone that doesn't know or hasn't watched Neace since the beginning. Don't let him fool you! This son of a gun mains Gangplank one of the more difficult champions in the game. Yes he's the Macro king but his Micro is just as well lol.
@@usr21882 I disagree. There’s definitely a lot more action with playing Riven since her fights are longer and she’s more melee, but hitting a fat barrel combo is very satisfying
27:50 I would just like to point out that not only did he use E there, but you can in fact wallhop that inhib without E. Just go straight, but slightly to the side, and you still hop further than over towers.
"A true master is an eternal student." - Master Yi
up and loved this!
Master Yi's gameplay doesnt line up with that. lol
"ok." - Rammus
@@MrBollejan "I have a penis." -Soraka probably
@@HamsterPants522 umm he quotes that so thats what the reference came from
It’s so cool to see him learning and getting the lightbulb moments like his students.
69, nice
I think he’s had so many shit students he basically coaching viewers how to be better students hahaha
69 hihihihi 🤭
‘Students’
5:30 yeah
Many have said this so far, but this is a very important side of Neace. Here he shows us how to learn gracefully. He put any ego away had fun as he learned, and in the wake of an error he accepted it and welcomed the criticism. Many of his students will benefit dramatically from this vid.
Yeah but this coach was humble and amicable. Neace usually is needlessly passive aggressive when coaching..
yea h i
@@bebaiz that's his style of coaching and it works, if that's not your cup of tea then don't watch. "Needless" is a horrible qualifier
@@josh2066 it is needless.
"I'm going to do something super simple. The most basic combo"
*proceeds to do a really intense combo full of animation cancels and doublecasts*
Just the nature of the champion no?
Not really, it was pretty simple. Just ulting in E and doing a regular fast combo. People do much crazier xd
@@creaketh I play Garen top so anything that requires more than 3 buttons is mechanically complicated for me. lol
@qeuarfbhq3iwushbq True, lol!
@@joshuajohnson2532 I respect that! I decided to main Riven after I discovered that she has 4 dashes and since I've always been obsessed with dashing around like an idiot until I die. The wall jumps and flash engages are super fun too!
I like Colin man... whenever somebody does something he's saying correctly he gives an enthusiastic YES! good positive reaffirmation from the new coach
You kinda got shit on... but that’s 👌
I literally just started playing Riven, so the timing on this is impeccable
oh yeah yeah
oh no no
My vision is augmented
dont queue ranked please
Have fun bro, she is really fun to play!
"you kinda got shit on.. but its okay" - Colin 2021
this title is cap, any champion that has an execute in their kit, and does burst dmg as a bruiser is not mechanically difficult, aa canceling is one of the easiest things to pick up in a game, riven's playstyle can carry over to other champions since shes bursty
Fiora is alot more difficult since all of her dmg comes from vitals and you need to be positioned perfectly to get all of your dmg out(literally one of her combos to get the quickestult vital proc contains her flash, flash isnt apart of any kit) the positioning for riven is literally 'be ontop of the enemy', I will agree that her skill ceiling is high, but her skill floor is underground, anyone can pick up riven and insta nuke someone, fiora skill floor is high and her skill ceiling in high because of her vitals(are nothing like anything else in the game, like the aurelion sol of top lane, or something like singed uniqueness) can be seen and actively played against(reset) riven skill floor is underground and her skill ceiling is high
@@GreyGrim no one asked
@@GreyGrim your ego hurt bro ?
Please make a series out of this, I've been laughing my ass off through the entire video and it's honestly really helpful for me since there are some core concepts of the game that you get to see (+even if I don't play the champion it will help me beat her)
Awesome vid Neace
I was coached by this....he did not disappoint.
See guys, in this video Neace is learning getting a coach for himself. What does that means? That Neace is ALWAYS learning stuff about the game and this is HUGE. NEACE is not an old and boring coach: he play, he have fun, he teach and he LEARN just like we do. In the future, those tips he got he is willing to give it back again to us. Best Coach, Neace cares about his followers.
when you've been playing riven on and off for 5 years and there's stuff in this video you didn't even know about
youre just bad
@@wat4504 your mother
@@wat4504 classic league player behaviour.....any pleasant people or situation go and talk trash right?
@@wat4504 if you're decent by statistics. bad and good are just relative terms depending on who you talk to.
But what I'm basically saying is that your reply was absolutely senseless, ignorant and unnecessary.
Neace already reached challenger, He's done hundreds of coaching but he's still out here being coached and showing to us that even he has the humility to admit his own mistakes and learn
Can you also say the same with Neace on this video? if so, then who the fuck are you and what was your peak rank?
@@wat4504 maybe he's decent but not great?
This actually proves a point that i bring up a lot, that the most knowledge ones are the ones who are most likely to be open minded about learning new stuff, and not afraid to admite that they don't know something.
This video is really cool because it shows that side of Neace.
I've only recently got into playing League and your videos help a ton, im really gratefull that you upload this for free on youtube, you're a kind soul.
Thank you so much for your top tier content
Hey guys dont forget to check out the second channel for colin's FULL GUIDE ON RIVEN!
GO SUB SUB SUB!
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“What do we teach people? We hit we back away. Good!”
This is great and i love watching you learn as much as I love watching you teach. Great video!
Only the best teachers will ask to be taught...
I'd actually really like to see you learn this champ in games. You are exactly the guy who would end up taloning around the map with riven, tilting everyone else off their game.
I'd like to see more of these high mechanical videos. Really useful for understanding how to play with or against a champion, without having to learn the champion in great detail or having to watch snippets of professional play.
I have watched you for a while, but this vid was beyond amazing I have to subscribe. Riven was one of the champs I tried back in season 5 but after watching this I have won 8 games straight with Riven. I had the fast combo down but I would have never thought to practice on scuttle to perfect it!!! 5 stars bro this was the best guide I have ever seen!
I started playing Riven when S11 dropped and I got a few combos off the bat, but this is awesome for learning how to play her correctly.
Gets a triple kill "keep going, we kill all" - Oorix
I truly hope that this video gets big, cuz it is without a doubt the most fun I have had with Neace. Cheerio, mate!
this probably my favorite coaching video ever . this synergy and energy of both is just so genuine and pure. I actually wanna learn riven even i hate toplane ^^
I know I’m a year late, but play her mid, it’s great
I love that Neace is so keen on swallowing his pride when he succeeds so as not to lose focus, and is always ready to move on to the next section of learning. You can always see a hint of a smile that instantly transitions back into attention
Damn im early
After watching, all I have to saay is I learned so much. Riven is just not a champ for me but now I know her more for when im against her.
exactly the same here
I had never given a try to this vids. It's amazing how dynamic Riven's gampeplay is. Good stuff!
One of the reasons I appreciate this channel is, when you watch other people learn, you also learn.
Wow the knowledge between the two of you is pouring out like a cup trying to hold a waterfall. You guys are top notch!! Yet another great video!
Super fun to watch, not even knowing this is a coaching Neace video at first.
Btw, FYI, by watching and studying your coaching videos, I climbed from Silver 4 to Gold 3 in about 1 month. Thank you Neace.
Holy shit Neace this might be my fav video of yours. For all the reasons. Damn good job to both you and coach.
I've been waiting for years to see you actually sit down and learn Riven. This was fantastic to watch.
Riven is very very hard. Her skill ceiling is off the charts.
In low elo if top picks riven, time to dodge.
@@lostandfound6501 meanwhile I feed while playing garen. You'll get a losing top anyway.
She used to be easy mode when she first came out. I’m glad she’s balanced in this regard now.
@@fysean do you remember 110 base damage level 1 q each with red pot?
Daniel yes indeed lol she was ridiculous for the first year she came out
I think i learned everything i need on riven just on this video , no need for more coaching! thank you NEACE
Thanks for this vid! Everyone mentions the "animation cancels" on Riven but no one wants to actually show how to do them. This is why Neace is the best!
This guy is so funny. Just the way he formulates his thoughts, elaborates :DDD Great video!
Respect to Neace btw, love watching you play bud
You should book him! His name is Collin/Oorix neace.gg/coaches/
I'd so watch the stream(s) of NEACE taking this champion from Bronze to Diamond.
is great to see a coaching session where the student actually knows what to do
bro ong i was tryna learn riven this past month legit the perfect video appreciate it Neace
Keep the content coming Neace youre changing the scope of the game.
Holy shit...the well of riven mechanics is miles deeper than I ever thought it was...
It's ridiculous. There's no champ in the game that has anywhere close to as many combo's. Most definitely the champion with the highest mechaincal celling.
@@6666-l5g people arguing that zed or yasuo or Vayne are harder is honestly hilarious to me
@@matth4069 I think the closest difficulty champions as far as combos go are Zed, Qiyana, Jayce, Lee Sin, Fiora (4 vital proc), Yasuo (80% of the time its the same combo, but mastering the timing for his aa+e+q, especially with low attack speed, takes a lot of skill)
As someone with 1m mastery points on Riven, this is so fun to watch. More please!!
That "aha" moment at around 5:30 is absolutely awesome to watch.
That was super fun to watch you getting coached too. It shows your viewers you understand that it’s scary to play new champions but you can overcome that timid phase if you try :D
That's an awesome video, i used to be OTP riven but it's been 4 years since i switched and it really helped me refresh my memory
I really liked seeing you also pausing occasionally when the coach said to do something. As a teacher it helps me to see a coach learning and doing the same thing students do. Gives perspective.
Playing Riven seriously for the first time. Is upset he didn't do well. Gets and S+
hes in bronze lol
this title is cap, any champion that has an execute in their kit, and does burst dmg as a bruiser is not mechanically difficult, aa canceling is one of the easiest things to pick up in a game, riven's playstyle can carry over to other champions since shes bursty
Fiora is alot more difficult since all of her dmg comes from vitals and you need to be positioned perfectly to get all of your dmg out(literally one of her combos to get the quickestult vital proc contains her flash, flash isnt apart of any kit) the positioning for riven is literally 'be ontop of the enemy', I will agree that her skill ceiling is high, but her skill floor is underground, anyone can pick up riven and insta nuke someone, fiora skill floor is high and her skill ceiling in high because of her vitals(are nothing like anything else in the game, like the aurelion sol of top lane, or something like singed uniqueness) can be seen and actively played against(reset) riven skill floor is underground and her skill ceiling is high
@@GreyGrim so... why the spam?
this was fun to watch, as a plat 2 riven main. I knew all these concepts but watching Neace learn it was too fun!
Didn't even know for so many years of playing that Riven could do that crazy stuff! Kudos to both, was a pleasure watching you as always!
This is really informative, and really breaks down how to do the anim cancels.
By far, one of ur best vids imo, i really enjoyed this session, was fun, educative.. if i can ask something more is that u do this for every toplane champ xD
Its very amazing to see neace suprised. Also i really think this is gonna imrpove neace in league aswell.
Love the combo lessons at the start. Would love to see these in other vids.
Butthurt silver players will say "noob champ"
Hashinshin says that as well.
Silvers lol everything is a noob champion for angry silvers
@@nicolatototo3215 I just had hashinshin in ranked game a few days ago in D1 xd
@@Negativity808 Cool, did you win?
How dare you assume that I am already silve, bro.
The time stamps here are so so good! Thanks for doing that
super cool watching you get coached on a champ you dont know, I enjoyed watching him coach you more than a random student TBH
this is an absolutely mind blowing experience to watch all this shit be explained. literally the difference between proper combos and just spamming q is like double the damage.
Something that can really help you land the q on the target is having the curser placed directly on what you're animation canceling. You can put your curser off them to lunge when you press q, as well. So you'd do that against matchups like illiao because it makes it hard to hit you when you're qing through her so much
“It’s like trying to teach your grandpa this champion”
For anyone who wonders how general sniper or adrian does 3x more damage than your riven... here ya go
I love when neace learns. It’s so funny to see neace still learning new things in this game
Been maining riven since s3, I still absolutely love the champ
This is awesome. Watching Neace work to better his game is encouraging to scrubs like me who have been playing casually for a long time and still suck.
That was a super great insight and hell funny XD Well done guys !
I have played a lot of riven and honestly never really clicked to me that you can always have her q up if played correctly. That is honestly game changing
Amazing video! I hope one day we can catch Neace going Riven on stream.
ive been religiously maining riven since the end of season 6, and nothing brings me more joy than showing off the cool tricks riven can do that people who dont play riven dont notice. ive coached many of my friends on the basics of riven and only then does it click for them how much riven is capable of, and it makes them realize the amount of work i put into perfecting my craft ;) simply playing riven, win or lose is enough to keep my hooked on league, shes just fun to play
This was such a fun and entertaining video! Hilarious seeing you mess up the combos and having a laugh 🤣
Neace you do great work. You and your coworkers are amazing. Thank you so much for all the educational content you are making league a more fun and more intelligent place every day!
This totally changed how I will play her forever and I’m no riven main but I feel 50% better just by watching this
It was fun watching him coach you. I’d watch another. It was cool and funny lol
I love Neace's faces when he was shown some of those long combos xD
"Where are my AA stat sticks, maaaaaan"
BTW dude, Riven fills the Smash Bros analogy to perfection... I haven't even played toplaners... xD
bro, i've been hesitant to pick her up, looking for a good guide to follow. This is a sign
This video is going to create so many more riven mains lmao
i love it
Such an eye opening moment for me too, riven has a lot of potential I didn’t even know about
I know it’s probably going to be in the description of all ur videos but I’d recommend putting the coaching channel on your “accounts” tab of this channel! Would make it easier to get to esp on phones. I like the vid as usual tho makes me want to play her again. I mained riven for a solid year or longer in middle school back in like s3 lmao
this is a reaaaaaally useful video. good job neace.
I casually play riven in draft, I have 50k mastery and I still learned so much from this vid, can't believe I was lacking so much knowledge
Yeah, ctrl+6 means very little. It's kind of a low elo brag.
@@Bezmenov93 your point in context with my comment?
@@PatrikHD that your mastery does not reflect the skill at all
@@Bezmenov93 ctrl 6 is half the fun, can’t combo without it
When he goes OMG... so relatable.
That IS what they are doing the whole time.
As a kind pf Riven Main I always do this but I didn't actually conceptualize it.
It's dirty af
Im a riven main D1 and this was sick. Gz!
You do not have to click away on aa canceling. I feel much more confident to press s on keyboard to stop aa ( everybody in eu i know does that ).
I've played riven for 20+ games and you did all the combos better first try then I've every done them. Guess I'm bronze 3 for a reason lmao
Great content, helped a ton.
these mechanic videos are very nice to see. hope there are more :)
Yay! Wanna see more Neace Riven !
I e read about the insane R1 and R2 combos and stuff. But that Q holding for the double knock up is so much simpler and more useful
28:15 was literally the perfect moment to try out the E-R-flash-3rdQ engage combo that they practiced earlier
Most entertaining game I've ever watched!! very good video guys
Loved this video Neace. Best one so far and love the respect and laughs
cool to see him learn, like a teacher goes back to school
This whole vid was hilarious thanks for this Neace
I am blown away from this, thank you for this lol
even if you dont play riven it helps laning against them, probably for u too neace as u stated in the video multiple times of how u saw what they were doing but didnt know exactly what.
man i want to see more Neace riven gameplay, would love to watch him with 100 hours on the champ with some muscle memory. would be sick
I just started maining her and then you make this video, bro you are the best and you totally knew i started maining her before you made this video :DDD
it's looking pretty good for your first time! ^^
Again, love these challenger talks.
My main ❤ this is awesome content. I'd love to see you play more Riven.
The way NEACE finds the Riven Combos, that's the same way I feel about League mechanics and decision making.
I was like "Dam, he's getting so fed so easily." Then BAM. Bronze II 67 LP
For anyone that doesn't know or hasn't watched Neace since the beginning. Don't let him fool you! This son of a gun mains Gangplank one of the more difficult champions in the game. Yes he's the Macro king but his Micro is just as well lol.
@@usr21882 I disagree. There’s definitely a lot more action with playing Riven since her fights are longer and she’s more melee, but hitting a fat barrel combo is very satisfying
Omg i love thiiis i needed this so muuuch! Rlly well explained
27:50 I would just like to point out that not only did he use E there, but you can in fact wallhop that inhib without E. Just go straight, but slightly to the side, and you still hop further than over towers.
i knew i didnt really understand riven but apparently i just dont know shit about this champion lol