Also (eventually) THE reason why Christianity bans abortion. Originally, Neo-Pythagorists recognized that there were more people who had died than were currently alive. So, where did the extra souls go? Reincarnated over and over to the current time. So, abortion bans are because of Reincarnation. True story
This is the profound intellect that the modern decadent world has turned its back on! Now the west has succumbed to the degeneracy of baked beans and burritos! Well they'll all be sorry they didn't listen to the timeless words of the classics when they suffocate from excessive flatulence!
I remember reading Plutarch and he claimed that Pythagoras' advice to abstain from beans actually meant to abstain from politics, because many Greek city-states used beans to vote. It was somewhere in Plutarch's Moralia, but maybe I just dreamt that.
Pythagoras did basically everything except invent the theorem that bears his name, which had been well-known for over a thousand years. It's like if we gave Einstein credit for inventing the counterweight trebuchet.
Einstein: Well have you heard about my Theory of Relativity? Rando: What's that? Einstein: It's my theory that massive siege engines are relatively kick-ass
I still remember all the way back in my calculus class how my professor told us how Pythagoras had a cúlt, and how when one of his followers proved that something said cúlt believed was wrong, they were subsequently put in a small boat with no oars, and his followers sent that person drifting off to sea as a form of execütion.
Yes, they believed all numbers could be expresed as ratios between two integers, (aka believed all numbers to be rational), but this student was the one who first found out the proof that the square root of two is, as we would call it today, irrational (it can never be expressed as a fraction with an integer numerator and an integer denominator), they executed him to avoid leakage of the proof to more people
Yep, supposedly he demonstrated the existence of surds (irrational numbers) by asking Pythagoras, if a(squared)=1, and b(squared)=1, then c(squared)=2. So what's the length of the hypotenuse? Pythagoras couldn't work out the square root of 2, since it has an infinite number of decimal places (like pi). This went against Pythagoras' doctrine that "all phenomena in the universe can be reduced to whole numbers and their ratios." The mathematician in this story is often ascribed to be Hippasus of Metapontum, but since he probably lived nearly a century after Pythagoras, it's unlikely that he posed this problem to Pythagoras, but rather to some other Pythagorean disciples. Alternatively, the whole story could simply be bunk, but that's not nearly as much fun, is it? The other wrinkle in the story is that the existence of irrational numbers was probably proved prior to Hippasus' life, so I personally treat this entire story with a healthy dose of skepticism.
I remember reading Plutarch and he claimed that Pythagoras' advice to abstain from beans actually meant to abstain from politics, because many Greek city-states used beans to vote. It was somewhere in Plutarch's Moralia, but maybe I just dreamt that.
I always knew about Pythagoras’ purported death as a consequence of refusing to cross a bean field but never knew that it was because he believed they contained the souls of the dead.
It seems plausible to me that Pythagoras didn't really discover his theorem, and that it was just ascribed to him because he was known as 'the numbers guy'.
It's ascribed to him because the first known proof was given by someone from his cult. Earlier civilizations were aware of the equation, but had no proof.
@@state_song_xprtmakes sense, it's the kind of calculation you'd use in carpentry all the time. Eventually someone is going to test a bunch of them (even just to write it down as a table to reference) and notice the relation empirically.
"He didn't invent music." It's worth noting that he also didn't invent his namesake theorem of a^2 + b^2 = c^2. It's around 2000 years older than Pythagoras himself and he might not even have known about it because the earliest written text we have on it from ancient Greece came from Euclid some 200 years later in the form of a different proof.
No mention of how Milo (2:52) supposedly died? Since he was the champion at wrestling at five consecutive Olympic Games, he had the reputation as being the strongest man alive. When he met a farmer trying to split a stump with wedges, he said he could split it with his own bare hands. The farmer said to go at it, and left to get lunch. Milo put his hand into where the wedges were splitting the stump, but the wedges came out and his hand got trapped, and he wasn't quite strong enough to pull the stump apart. Before the farmer came back, he was attacked and killed by wolves or a lion.
Pythagoras's musical discovery was the octave. Before Pythagoras they only knew of 5 musical notes, and Pythagoras discovered another 2, giving us a total of 7 basic music notes, known as an octave.
Wasn't it in his cult that someone was killed for discovering that √2 is irrational, which goes against the universal harmony of rational numbers or something?
The best part about this all is that Pythagoras didn't even come up with his namesake theorem. The concept was known for thousands of years before his time, he was just the most vocal cult leader to speak about the subject. Wikipedia article about the tablet that shows the theory before Pythagoras's time: en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Plimpton_322
Just because people knew about the equation before the Greeks doesn't mean they've proven it. A statement without proof is just a conjecture, not a theorem.
So Pythagoras was a ruler of geometry cult? Didn't know that. I square that pun wasn't on purpose. Also looks like Silon took a page from Cave Johnson's book when it came to lemons.
0:09 , first of all that little formula is probably one of the most useful formulas ever, and some people argue it is almost one of the basis of anything related to math (that also uses some level of geometry, which is basically everything). Second of all, pytagoras made more collaborations to different aspects of math that are still... somewhat useful to this day. You talk one atom less of that mofo and I'll literally refine the plutonium myself I tell ye! 😤 Edit after finish: good job!
This is why we make STEM majors take arts and humanities classes, so they don’t completely squirrelly from isolation (though “wearing the same thing every day” still seems to be a proud tradition in the math community)
You should *DEFINITELY* make a video about the "*Captain of Köpenick*", a random guy in 1906 Köpenick, Prussia, who impersonated a military officer, convinced a few soldiers who were standing around to march around with him, then using them convinced a few more to follow him as well, until he had quite a few, then he marched on the mayor's office and robbed him, pretending to be acting on like the Kaiser's orders, "corruption charges" against the mayor He got away from the scene after taking the money, but was found later, but Wilhelm II pardoned him because everyone in the country found the whole story super funny
Not eating beans may not be as silly as it originally sounds. Eating fava beans can make you sick if you have hereditary G6P deficiency, which is more common in the Mediterranean region
Finally, talking about Triangle Man and his Triangle Cult! Pythagoras be there renouncing doing harm to others, yet my math teacher tried to make me learn maths when I have the math version of dyslexia. Pythagoras, still harming people's brains more than 2,500 years later. XD
You should have gotten Reverse 1999 as a sponsor for this. Their main story just came to a island full of Pythagorean cultists. They even included the beans thing.
I remember watching Reign: The Conqueror and being weirded out by the Pythagorean Cult. One of the opening dialogues suggested they were trying to kill Alexander the Great and friends because they had irrational numbers assigned to them.
Although the theorem gets his name, the fact is that Sumerians already were aware of this fact about triangles. It's possible that Egyptians were already aware of it as well, but Pythagoras got the credit.
Jack... you are like _92%_ of the way to an Australian accent (better than I've *ever* heard coming from the mouth of *any* other Stateser!), I'm just confused... *why* is Pythagoras Australian here?
Why are the other characters American? (also, 92% that's quite flattering! I figured I was somewhere closer to 40% given that the first few lines I recorded came out sounding Scouse 😆)
Any time an important historical figure seems like a straightforward figure, I end up wanting to poke around and find out what weird nonsense they believed in.
It became a trope for revered Greco-Roman figures, especially of the Archaic period of Greek History for them to have traveled and been taught in Egypt, Mesopotamia etc. It is little more than a trope. Hell there was even the claim that Plato went to Egypt to Learn. Further such figures as the Roman King Numa supposedly went to Egypt etc. It is all very dubious. Our information on Pythagoras' life is minimal. He was born in Samos and went to Croton in Italy where he founded, what amounts to a cult. The earliest surviving record of him is in Herodotus and he merely records Pythagoras coming to Croton from Samos. Herodotus seems to have thought that Pythagoras got his ideas about reincarnation from the Egyptians. Well reincarnation was not an ancient Egyptian belief. It appears that from Herodotus' assumption that the idea grew that Pythagoras visited Egypt, and then the story developed he spent years in Egypt learning ancient wisdom then the story developed that he traveled to Mesopotamia to learn Babylonian wisdom and then the story was added that he met Zoroaster. (Since Zoroaster almost certainly lived before Pythagoras was even born, them meeting is not possible.) The stories of Pythagoras going to Egypt to learn wisdom etc., are very likely little more than fables that developed well after Pythagoras death and were told about a lot of the Sages of the Archaic age. (Thales for example).
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He also inspired some parts of Islamic philosophy I think let's talk religion has done an episode on him.
Your video's are good one's Jack. When listening to this I thought about the character Pythagoras from the video game Assassin's Creed: Odyssey.
Also (eventually) THE reason why Christianity bans abortion. Originally, Neo-Pythagorists recognized that there were more people who had died than were currently alive. So, where did the extra souls go? Reincarnated over and over to the current time. So, abortion bans are because of Reincarnation. True story
Pythagoras hated beans. He thought that farting released the breath of life from your body.
This is the profound intellect that the modern decadent world has turned its back on! Now the west has succumbed to the degeneracy of baked beans and burritos! Well they'll all be sorry they didn't listen to the timeless words of the classics when they suffocate from excessive flatulence!
He's a great example of how you can be smart at one thing and dumb at everything else.
If he was right, I’d be dead ten times over now.
I remember reading Plutarch and he claimed that Pythagoras' advice to abstain from beans actually meant to abstain from politics, because many Greek city-states used beans to vote.
It was somewhere in Plutarch's Moralia, but maybe I just dreamt that.
I can’t remember where but his “evidence” was that it stepped on a bean once and it smelled like sperm so we evolved from beans
Pythagoras did basically everything except invent the theorem that bears his name, which had been well-known for over a thousand years.
It's like if we gave Einstein credit for inventing the counterweight trebuchet.
Or giving Pascal credit for the "triangle"
Einstein: Well have you heard about my Theory of Relativity?
Rando: What's that?
Einstein: It's my theory that massive siege engines are relatively kick-ass
@@SpoopySquiddamn that was good
And if he invented a cult that proclaimed him as the messiah and banned cheese
What do you mean ? You never heard of the Einsteins theory of siege ?
I still remember all the way back in my calculus class how my professor told us how Pythagoras had a cúlt, and how when one of his followers proved that something said cúlt believed was wrong, they were subsequently put in a small boat with no oars, and his followers sent that person drifting off to sea as a form of execütion.
Yes, they believed all numbers could be expresed as ratios between two integers, (aka believed all numbers to be rational), but this student was the one who first found out the proof that the square root of two is, as we would call it today, irrational (it can never be expressed as a fraction with an integer numerator and an integer denominator), they executed him to avoid leakage of the proof to more people
Yep, supposedly he demonstrated the existence of surds (irrational numbers) by asking Pythagoras, if a(squared)=1, and b(squared)=1, then c(squared)=2. So what's the length of the hypotenuse? Pythagoras couldn't work out the square root of 2, since it has an infinite number of decimal places (like pi). This went against Pythagoras' doctrine that "all phenomena in the universe can be reduced to whole numbers and their ratios."
The mathematician in this story is often ascribed to be Hippasus of Metapontum, but since he probably lived nearly a century after Pythagoras, it's unlikely that he posed this problem to Pythagoras, but rather to some other Pythagorean disciples. Alternatively, the whole story could simply be bunk, but that's not nearly as much fun, is it?
The other wrinkle in the story is that the existence of irrational numbers was probably proved prior to Hippasus' life, so I personally treat this entire story with a healthy dose of skepticism.
Why are you using random accent marks?
@@BJGvideos Because I used words that "Google's video website" does not like.
@@BJGvideos try typing the same exact thing without them and see what happens.
I remember reading Plutarch and he claimed that Pythagoras' advice to abstain from beans actually meant to abstain from politics, because many Greek city-states used beans to vote.
It was somewhere in Plutarch's Moralia, but maybe I just dreamt that.
Source: it was revealed to me in a dream
@@heiskanbuscadordelaverdad8709very fitting, given the subject matter
Pythagorian lore goes HARD
You know what else goes hard? That's right! Triangles B)
Just like yours
Are you saying that my triangles brings all the beans to the yard?
do they still hate beans?
That's a high compliment from the main villain of a franchise known for being complicated as Final Fantasy² * Kingdom Hearts ÷ The Lord of the Rings.
“Math’s first cult leader”
Wait, there were other math cult leaders?
numerology
today's math cult would be AI algorithms.
Statistics.
Economists.
Timecube.
Pythagoras: "I don't know the solution to this problem; but I can't help thinking the answer somehow involves triangles"
I always knew about Pythagoras’ purported death as a consequence of refusing to cross a bean field but never knew that it was because he believed they contained the souls of the dead.
I really like the story about Pythagoras showing everyone at the Olympic games his golden thigh, to prove he's the Hyperborean Apollo.
6:08 I heard that humans created lemons by crossing two plants.
Life didn't give us lemons - we made them ourself!
It seems plausible to me that Pythagoras didn't really discover his theorem, and that it was just ascribed to him because he was known as 'the numbers guy'.
Supposedly, the theory in question had been well known for like, a thousand years by that point.
There's records showing it was well understood by the Babylonians 1000 years earlier
It's ascribed to him because the first known proof was given by someone from his cult. Earlier civilizations were aware of the equation, but had no proof.
@@state_song_xprtmakes sense, it's the kind of calculation you'd use in carpentry all the time. Eventually someone is going to test a bunch of them (even just to write it down as a table to reference) and notice the relation empirically.
Pythagoras: Math's first madlad.
The one and only Mathlad
My favorite fact about Pythagoras is he claimed his past lives were nobodies.
Oh my math! He's back!
Suddenly that weird assassin cult from Reign: The Conqueror seems like one of the less weird things from that anime...
Reign was my 1st introduction to Diogenes and his concept of 'the universe in a barrel'.
"He didn't invent music."
It's worth noting that he also didn't invent his namesake theorem of a^2 + b^2 = c^2.
It's around 2000 years older than Pythagoras himself and he might not even have known about it because the earliest written text we have on it from ancient Greece came from Euclid some 200 years later in the form of a different proof.
No mention of how Milo (2:52) supposedly died? Since he was the champion at wrestling at five consecutive Olympic Games, he had the reputation as being the strongest man alive. When he met a farmer trying to split a stump with wedges, he said he could split it with his own bare hands. The farmer said to go at it, and left to get lunch. Milo put his hand into where the wedges were splitting the stump, but the wedges came out and his hand got trapped, and he wasn't quite strong enough to pull the stump apart. Before the farmer came back, he was attacked and killed by wolves or a lion.
Pythagoras's musical discovery was the octave. Before Pythagoras they only knew of 5 musical notes, and Pythagoras discovered another 2, giving us a total of 7 basic music notes, known as an octave.
Most other cultures use pentatonic 5 note scales. The 7 note scales seem pretty unique to the classical west.
It's crazy. Every time I want to learn more about a subject, Jack releases a video for it.
Wasn't it in his cult that someone was killed for discovering that √2 is irrational, which goes against the universal harmony of rational numbers or something?
Famous math story- his followers drowned the man who claimed to prove it. I was heartbroken when Jack failed to mention it.
Pythagoras being Australian only makes him go harder as a historical figure 🏛️🔺🇦🇺
Be better if they gave him the Melbourne greek accent
What? I heard his accent, and those it was a try at The Beatles's Scouse, to fit the hippy aesthetic.
@@TheShadowChesireCatI'd say Mick Jagger
I thought he was trying to be Ringo Starr.
That's not an Australian accent. It's a scouser accent.
She be triangulating on my Pythagoras tell’ I theorem
Can't believe he didn't even mention Pythagoras drowning Hippasus for discovering the square root of two is not a fracture.
The best part about this all is that Pythagoras didn't even come up with his namesake theorem. The concept was known for thousands of years before his time, he was just the most vocal cult leader to speak about the subject.
Wikipedia article about the tablet that shows the theory before Pythagoras's time: en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Plimpton_322
Just because people knew about the equation before the Greeks doesn't mean they've proven it. A statement without proof is just a conjecture, not a theorem.
So Pythagoras was a ruler of geometry cult? Didn't know that. I square that pun wasn't on purpose.
Also looks like Silon took a page from Cave Johnson's book when it came to lemons.
I love how Pythagoras sounds like an Australian Russell Brand.
0:09 , first of all that little formula is probably one of the most useful formulas ever, and some people argue it is almost one of the basis of anything related to math (that also uses some level of geometry, which is basically everything). Second of all, pytagoras made more collaborations to different aspects of math that are still... somewhat useful to this day. You talk one atom less of that mofo and I'll literally refine the plutonium myself I tell ye! 😤
Edit after finish: good job!
EARLY! Love your work 🎉🎉🎉❤❤❤
Liverpudlian Pythagoras caught me hella off guard. Edit: Intro Pythagoras sounded like a Beatle. Video went hard Aussie maybe?
This is why we make STEM majors take arts and humanities classes, so they don’t completely squirrelly from isolation (though “wearing the same thing every day” still seems to be a proud tradition in the math community)
Math is the best, MATH IS THE BEST THING EVER WE ARE THE BEST NERDS UPRISING
Never knew Pythagoras was an Aussie
Looking forward to Triangle Thursday already. Really brightens up my week every time.
If you have never seen Disney's "Donald Duck in Mathmagic Land" I recommend you do.
Math is the science equivalent of eldritch magic.
I was not expecting the beans
Oh new jack rackam video between two math exams I get to relax my brain and think about history not math…
You should *DEFINITELY* make a video about the "*Captain of Köpenick*", a random guy in 1906 Köpenick, Prussia, who impersonated a military officer, convinced a few soldiers who were standing around to march around with him, then using them convinced a few more to follow him as well, until he had quite a few, then he marched on the mayor's office and robbed him, pretending to be acting on like the Kaiser's orders, "corruption charges" against the mayor
He got away from the scene after taking the money, but was found later, but Wilhelm II pardoned him because everyone in the country found the whole story super funny
your Ozzy accent is surprisingly good lol
awesome episode
Pythagoras sounded like an Australian hippie high on triangles and pentagons
Why does Pythagoras have an Aussie accent lol 😂 love your work Jack! ❤
4:00 The Greeks clearly had some fire flower
I always knew Pythagoras was a Scouse-Aussie hybrid.
This video is like if a squared plus b squared equaled 2c squared.
Gotta say, pretty pumped for triangle Thursday.
Won't someone please think of the BEANS????
Not eating beans may not be as silly as it originally sounds. Eating fava beans can make you sick if you have hereditary G6P deficiency, which is more common in the Mediterranean region
Damn, that animation budget went through the roof with the CGI.
Finally, talking about Triangle Man and his Triangle Cult! Pythagoras be there renouncing doing harm to others, yet my math teacher tried to make me learn maths when I have the math version of dyslexia.
Pythagoras, still harming people's brains more than 2,500 years later. XD
The disrespect by voicing him as George Harrison! 😂
But you haven't covered Archimedes yet? Dude built a death laser in Ancient Greece! Go! Go! Go!
You should have gotten Reverse 1999 as a sponsor for this. Their main story just came to a island full of Pythagorean cultists. They even included the beans thing.
History has proven that even nerds can become revered as cult leaders
Did I miss the joke that explains why he’s got an Australian accent lmao
I remember watching Reign: The Conqueror and being weirded out by the Pythagorean Cult. One of the opening dialogues suggested they were trying to kill Alexander the Great and friends because they had irrational numbers assigned to them.
That was amazing. I have my next D&D villain
Im pretty sure Jack didn't have to make anything up in the middle there.
Although the theorem gets his name, the fact is that Sumerians already were aware of this fact about triangles. It's possible that Egyptians were already aware of it as well, but Pythagoras got the credit.
If I hadn't heard a bit about all this years ago, I would have sworn you were punking us
I love Pythagoras being some stoned out of his gourd Australian bloke.
okay two questions:
1) why is he australian
2) why is australian pythagoras so damn funny to me
Actually a half decent Australian accent. Good job!
Didn’t know Pythagoras was a chill Aussie surfer dude
Pentagons may be from hell, but hexagons are the bestagons
If we're doing greek philosophers you neeeeeed to do Diogones the cynic. Whata character
Me: chilling, eating some spicy lentils over rice
Pythagoras: HOW DARE YOU EAT BEANS!!! UNHAND THOSE POOR LENTILS, BARBARIAN!
Is Pythagoras like an Australian Mick Jagger?
I think he showed em lemons 🍋
"We can't do this, we number less than 20!"
Pythagoras:"If only we numbered 21! Then we could form an equilateral triangle!"
3:20 got real big lez show vibes 😅
To be fair:
What is the point of math if not cult?
Triangle time, your vids are snazzy
I didn't know Pythagoras was Australian. lol.
To be an exceptionnel mathematicien always includes a part of crazyness.
2:27 so close
"Big classroom would have u believe" 😂
Why does Pythagoras with glasses look like David Letterman?
When I was at school, my maths teacher briefly talked about this guy.
Jack... you are like _92%_ of the way to an Australian accent (better than I've *ever* heard coming from the mouth of *any* other Stateser!), I'm just confused... *why* is Pythagoras Australian here?
Why are the other characters American? (also, 92% that's quite flattering! I figured I was somewhere closer to 40% given that the first few lines I recorded came out sounding Scouse 😆)
@@JackRackam The other characters are American because *you're* American! Making Pythagoras Aussie was a _choice!_ XD
the thumbnail is beautiful.
Any time an important historical figure seems like a straightforward figure, I end up wanting to poke around and find out what weird nonsense they believed in.
So... You're telling me... The latest chapter in reverse 1999 is actually historically accurate?!? WTFFF
Babe! Wake up! New Jack Rackam just dropped!
Pythagoras being Australian pleased me.
Bill Cipher is a big fan.
Cylon took the lemons and burned Pythagoras' house down 😂
I always wonderd, "what exactly is a death cult?" Now I know
Another reference to Hitchhiker's Guide to Galaxy!
Why is Pythagoras played by James Cameron with an Australian accent?
I know this is probably the first you've heard this but: do a video on Calvin Coolidge, man. He was a fuckin weirdo.
Video starts at 1:59
Hey its the triangle guy!
No way you pulled off that Aussie, very tite
I might have paid attention in math class if they showed this back when I was in school...
Imaging encountering someone that is so petty that he's willing to go full on Joel Miller on you and your whole school/cult
Modern day math cult would be people who're developing AI algorithms.
I had no idea Pythagoras was an Aussie.
It became a trope for revered Greco-Roman figures, especially of the Archaic period of Greek History for them to have traveled and been taught in Egypt, Mesopotamia etc. It is little more than a trope. Hell there was even the claim that Plato went to Egypt to Learn. Further such figures as the Roman King Numa supposedly went to Egypt etc. It is all very dubious. Our information on Pythagoras' life is minimal. He was born in Samos and went to Croton in Italy where he founded, what amounts to a cult. The earliest surviving record of him is in Herodotus and he merely records Pythagoras coming to Croton from Samos. Herodotus seems to have thought that Pythagoras got his ideas about reincarnation from the Egyptians. Well reincarnation was not an ancient Egyptian belief.
It appears that from Herodotus' assumption that the idea grew that Pythagoras visited Egypt, and then the story developed he spent years in Egypt learning ancient wisdom then the story developed that he traveled to Mesopotamia to learn Babylonian wisdom and then the story was added that he met Zoroaster. (Since Zoroaster almost certainly lived before Pythagoras was even born, them meeting is not possible.)
The stories of Pythagoras going to Egypt to learn wisdom etc., are very likely little more than fables that developed well after Pythagoras death and were told about a lot of the Sages of the Archaic age. (Thales for example).
this mighta been the first time watching one of these i got bored.