Having used actual API 500 series modules in the past, (as well as the 2500 compressor), and having used other various plugin manufacturer’s emulations of API preamps, EQ’s, and compressors, I can say that (IMO) UAD has come the absolute closest to authentically recreating how real API hardware sounds and reacts. And, nice job on explaining API EQ’s proportional Q as well, which I’m not sure all that many users would be aware of, particularly if they have no experience with actual API hardware. While API preamps can add loads of color, they can also sound very clear and clean, too, unlike other classic preamps, which impart noticeable coloration right from the start at unity gain. I wouldn’t go as far to say that API’s are completely transparent, but they can be a lot cleaner than other classic preamps, and having the option to choose that cleaner sound, or driving it hard to get the classic API mid-forward and aggressive vibe, is one of the things I like most about API mic preamps. IMHO.
Couldn’t agree more! They are really the ultimate workhorse. When you’re in doubt and don’t know what to use for a source, you can count on it to not get in the way.
After all you really showed me step by step as to how a newbie can use the apo plugin. Thank you so much. My booth still allows the traffic noise to sip in and i really oike got the noise gate cleans vocals
That was a very cool tutorial the API vision strip is my favorite but still learning it I have UAD-2 Satellite unit and I also use hybrid analog mixing I'm new at it yet Cheers mate
Yep - you've nailed most of it; I can't think of any other tip. The gate is second to none. Try using the Neve 88RS gate in comparison - BLAH! The Neve channelstrip is maybe a little smoother, but I've never been able to handle it like the API Vision. Not my thing. API all the way!
At the end of the day, it's the same signal level.. it's possible whenever I filmed this video that I didn't have enough coffee. haha You'd typically wanna keep the source tracks to the same type, you're correct.
@@TheSteveKinney okok so If I put the plugin for exapmle on my vocal I can use either both of them? When I try it out it seems the mic preamp has like more power(Volume)
@@goldcoco well. Line level signals are basically just the default signal level. And it has about 12db of gain Where as the mic pre initially is gained up to begin with and then has an additional 64db of gain I think.
Hi Steve I am a Cubase user and want to see if Luna is something for me. I bought an Apollo twin X and now I want to learn how to use Luna. So I am starting to follow your videos. The first thing I noticed is that in the mixer you can choose console but only UA plugins, I have the UC1 and the UF8 and would like to use the SSL channelstrip2 or the 4K B in the console. My question is can I choose these in the console? Gr Ness
Great question! So. You can choose any AU plugin in post Production. In the “real time monitoring” mode, which is the DSP mode for tracking with no latency, you can only only monitor through the UAD plugins. There is a non arm mode that has a touch off latency, I’d expect that they will work on this in the future. But ya - those plugins will show up in the “inserts” tab inside of the mixer window. Hope this makes sense, happy to answer anything else. Cheers mate!
My native api presets (if I remember correctly) come with both the UAD-2 version and the native UADx preset. Additionally, the UADx presets can be copied and pasted into the Luna API console extension for use there too.
It definitely can be a problem and it’s incredibly easy to take into that “too much” territory quickly. But when used sparingly, it’s incredible at cleaning up snares and kicks, bad guitar, BGV’s or vocals where you can’t erase the audio when the vocalist isn’t singing. I appreciate you’re perspective mate!
Learn to use it. The gate is astounding. I should know, I live next to a motorway. IVE tried all the gates from Waves, Slate, SSL. The gate on this Blow them all away. Now I can record clean vocals even with my Windows open.
I have the legacy strip and am pretty disapointed that i have to spend another 150 euro to be able to use it as a native plugin. the only difference is the fader, which i dont really need and also the plugin is not that old to be called legacy. the la2a, 1176 and pultecs are much older and are not legacy. :( sometimes universal audio does cruel things.
To be fair.. I think that if you don't need / want the fader & output section emulation, then you're kind of better off with the Legacy. The Preamp section model is bang on and all the other features are the exact same. Although - I totally see where you're coming from on the native thing.. they kind of screwed the pooch with their pricing when they came out with the newer API. it was a confusing debacle that only got weirder with the "console" emulation plugin for Luna. I own both and bought both, but don't get the Luna Extension haha.. it's so confusing. But none the less, it sounds fantastic! Cheers mate!
@@TheSteveKinney yeah the preamp is fantastic. I have some nice and expensive hardware preamps and i often use the unison API, as i prefer it on some tracks. I think they should have just upgraded the old version for free or a minor fee. But maybe i will be able to get the complete api bundle in a deal for 200€ as an upgrade? If something like this happens, the pill won't be as hard to swallow.
@@azamat19 keep in mind. They always run some crazy promotions.. I almost only pick up plugins during promotion.. or Black Friday / cyber Monday etc. Only time to buy IMO.
UA specifically themselves mentioned that the old version didn’t have a modeled output. That the new one has a modeled output fader section. That’s per UA.
Hey mate! Yeah - sometimes I forget to increase my screen resolution, since I have a big ass screen in front of me. And also - I wanted to keep these videos super short, the tips would have taken too long, but noted! Thanks for watching mate!
Having used actual API 500 series modules in the past, (as well as the 2500 compressor), and having used other various plugin manufacturer’s emulations of API preamps, EQ’s, and compressors, I can say that (IMO) UAD has come the absolute closest to authentically recreating how real API hardware sounds and reacts.
And, nice job on explaining API EQ’s proportional Q as well, which I’m not sure all that many users would be aware of, particularly if they have no experience with actual API hardware.
While API preamps can add loads of color, they can also sound very clear and clean, too, unlike other classic preamps, which impart noticeable coloration right from the start at unity gain.
I wouldn’t go as far to say that API’s are completely transparent, but they can be a lot cleaner than other classic preamps, and having the option to choose that cleaner sound, or driving it hard to get the classic API mid-forward and aggressive vibe, is one of the things I like most about API mic preamps.
IMHO.
Couldn’t agree more!
They are really the ultimate workhorse. When you’re in doubt and don’t know what to use for a source, you can count on it to not get in the way.
After all you really showed me step by step as to how a newbie can use the apo plugin. Thank you so much. My booth still allows the traffic noise to sip in and i really oike got the noise gate cleans vocals
Yeah! That gate is magic. Most gates are kind of crap and sound unnatural. This one rocks.
Nice! I've been waiting for this. Thank you !
Cheers mate! Thanks for stopping by.
thanks I just bought it I use it on vocals I appreciate content im from hip hop genre and I live in Europe
Right on Ari!
It’s such a great sounding plug.
Thanks, Steve! Very helpful! You should join us on the LUNA Forum and share your tips and tricks there, too. 😎
Luna forum, tell me more good sir.
Where's the Luna forum?
That was a very cool tutorial the API vision strip is my favorite but still learning it I have UAD-2 Satellite unit and I also use hybrid analog mixing I'm new at it yet Cheers mate
Thanks you helped me decide to get this product
Hope ya dig it!! Cheers!
great tips, thank you!
Cheers mate! Thanks for stopping by
Thanks for sharing!
Cheers mate!
Yep - you've nailed most of it; I can't think of any other tip. The gate is second to none. Try using the Neve 88RS gate in comparison - BLAH! The Neve channelstrip is maybe a little smoother, but I've never been able to handle it like the API Vision. Not my thing. API all the way!
Ya - to me. The 88rs sounds like a plugin.
The api sounds like hardware.
Thanks for the tips 💪🏾
Cheers mate!
ok you blew my mind, + dB & the Q narrows? you can toggle the 2 types of EQ and A/B?
Thanks, did not know some of this.
Cheers mate! I know it’s simple, but it’s handy to know especially if you didn’t know before.
Thanks for stopping by!
Why is the print track stereo when the source track is mono. For reference, I'm mixing/printing vocals typically.
At the end of the day, it's the same signal level.. it's possible whenever I filmed this video that I didn't have enough coffee. haha
You'd typically wanna keep the source tracks to the same type, you're correct.
hi...thnx man...
What is the difference between the line and the input knob on the new Plugin?
Input knob is the modeled mic preamp section
Line is the modeled line in. Which is typically a little more transparent
@@TheSteveKinney okok so If I put the plugin for exapmle on my vocal I can use either both of them? When I try it out it seems the mic preamp has like more power(Volume)
@@goldcoco well. Line level signals are basically just the default signal level. And it has about 12db of gain
Where as the mic pre initially is gained up to begin with and then has an additional 64db of gain I think.
Hi Steve I am a Cubase user and want to see if Luna is something for me.
I bought an Apollo twin X and now I want to learn how to use Luna.
So I am starting to follow your videos.
The first thing I noticed is that in the mixer you can choose console but only UA plugins,
I have the UC1 and the UF8 and would like to use the SSL channelstrip2 or the 4K B in the console.
My question is can I choose these in the console?
Gr Ness
Great question!
So. You can choose any AU plugin in post Production.
In the “real time monitoring” mode, which is the DSP mode for tracking with no latency, you can only only monitor through the UAD plugins.
There is a non arm mode that has a touch off latency, I’d expect that they will work on this in the future.
But ya - those plugins will show up in the “inserts” tab inside of the mixer window.
Hope this makes sense, happy to answer anything else.
Cheers mate!
Hello! what is the function of the button with a microphone symbol in Uad plugins?
It’s a feature to get lower monitoring latency when you’re monitoring through DAW audio instead of directly from the Apollo.
Called live mode I think.
@@TheSteveKinney Muito Obrigado!!!!
Can I use your presets in the native version Uad Api?
My native api presets (if I remember correctly) come with both the UAD-2 version and the native UADx preset.
Additionally, the UADx presets can be copied and pasted into the Luna API console extension for use there too.
@@TheSteveKinney thank you! I appreciate you
I got a feeling UAUDIO is going to release a new Apollo Audio Interface in Jan. or Feb. What yall think?
👍
Everything on this channel but the gate is great. The gate is everything less musical
It definitely can be a problem and it’s incredibly easy to take into that “too much” territory quickly.
But when used sparingly, it’s incredible at cleaning up snares and kicks, bad guitar, BGV’s or vocals where you can’t erase the audio when the vocalist isn’t singing.
I appreciate you’re perspective mate!
Learn to use it. The gate is astounding. I should know, I live next to a motorway. IVE tried all the gates from Waves, Slate, SSL. The gate on this Blow them all away. Now I can record clean vocals even with my Windows open.
I have the legacy strip and am pretty disapointed that i have to spend another 150 euro to be able to use it as a native plugin. the only difference is the fader, which i dont really need and also the plugin is not that old to be called legacy. the la2a, 1176 and pultecs are much older and are not legacy. :( sometimes universal audio does cruel things.
To be fair.. I think that if you don't need / want the fader & output section emulation, then you're kind of better off with the Legacy.
The Preamp section model is bang on and all the other features are the exact same.
Although - I totally see where you're coming from on the native thing.. they kind of screwed the pooch with their pricing when they came out with the newer API.
it was a confusing debacle that only got weirder with the "console" emulation plugin for Luna.
I own both and bought both, but don't get the Luna Extension haha.. it's so confusing.
But none the less, it sounds fantastic!
Cheers mate!
@@TheSteveKinney yeah the preamp is fantastic. I have some nice and expensive hardware preamps and i often use the unison API, as i prefer it on some tracks.
I think they should have just upgraded the old version for free or a minor fee.
But maybe i will be able to get the complete api bundle in a deal for 200€ as an upgrade? If something like this happens, the pill won't be as hard to swallow.
@@azamat19 keep in mind. They always run some crazy promotions.. I almost only pick up plugins during promotion.. or Black Friday / cyber Monday etc.
Only time to buy IMO.
The old version has an output. So the fader in the new version is irrelevant.
UA specifically themselves mentioned that the old version didn’t have a modeled output.
That the new one has a modeled output fader section.
That’s per UA.
@@TheSteveKinney I get what you say but in the end we all will use it to compensate.
@@cesargonzalezbueno3359 that’s exactly the point.
There is non-linearity in that fader.
If you don’t want that non linearity - use the original.
Its very hard to see anything,its so small. It would be also good to have some sound samples otherwise its too theoretical.
Hey mate! Yeah - sometimes I forget to increase my screen resolution, since I have a big ass screen in front of me.
And also - I wanted to keep these videos super short, the tips would have taken too long, but noted!
Thanks for watching mate!
Useless review no sound test
Supposed to be educational.
Not really a review.
But I appreciate your feedback!