Still miss The Lupe & Royce show. That was my absolute favorite podcast at the time.. Royce was actually the funnier one.. very dry humor, but hilarious. They had great chemistry. Still wish they could channel that energy into a musical collaboration. They could have been a great duo.
Me too, I enjoyed the Lupe and Royce show so much. But I recall Lu getting persuaded by his following to do a podcast back when he was always on IG Live during the start of the pandemic. He was always very apprehensive about it but he was also doing this podcast as a solid to his homie Tom.
I miss it too. Not just for what it was, but for what it could've been in the future had they continued do it. All things must come to an end though I guess
Idk, it always seemed like a ticking time bomb to me. They were low key testy from early on and it just got worse over time. Would be nice to see them make amends, but I doubt they work together in that kind of format again.
Hella dope to see Royce continue opening doors and taking a great artist like Courtney Bell under his wing. As a Detroit native and an artist myself, I’m very proud to see this.🔥🔥🔥
@@gemsound mfs love to project the hate rather than say “I never heard of Courtney bell but he gotta be hella talented bcuz Royce is his mentor, let me check him out” that’s what’s wrong with us and our culture, way too quick to hate on the next man
Royce is misrepresenting the events in my opinion. I saw those instagram lives and Royce was very disrespectful, dismissive and spoke in circles around actually having some level of lyrical competition while simultaneously talking about how he's the best. Lupe just wanted to set the terms of what the standards would be for proving you're the best and then actually go and prove it on a song or battle of some sort. Royce kept belittling Lupe and Mickey Factz, talking about how they don't measure up. Royce's tone is completely different in this interview compared to those lives. He definitely earned that outcome he got.
You're forgetting the most important part Lupe's opinion wasn't warranted It was a convo mostly between Royce, RJ, and Ransom with Factz as a mediator. That's why all 3 of them dismissed Lupe, not just Royce. Had he stated his opinion and then went about his business, we would have a Royce, Rj, Ransom collab by now because that's where the conversation was going before Lupe butted in.
@@kingakil8599 that was a month before the beef. The convo was deaded and then brought back in another form weeks later by Mook and Lux. Look at the videos and the dates
Royce do be cappin but Lupe was eggin Royce on and kept trying to be funny saying Royce wasnt the best he aint on eow he aint the best repetitively on live then royce got fed up with it and started saying im better then them and im better then you but that was after several lives of Lupe clownin
I was thinking the same thing! I love him as an artist, but he was so convoluted with the message he was trying to get across. At one point I thought he was trying to bring competitive energy, and I was excited about it. Then when anybody challenged him, he would switch up his stance, on some passive shit....but at the same time kinda bullying people like Mickey. I was disappointed big time, but I'm still a fan of the music
Top ROYCE DA 5'9 projects 1. Book of Ryan 2. PRyme 3. Layers 4. The Bar Exam 5. Hell: The Sequel (w/Eminem) 6. PRyme 2 7. Success Is Certain 8.The Bar Exam 2 9. The Allegory 10. Death Is Certain
The entire tone and delivery of this incredibly insightful interview is why therapy is very important, especially in the Black Commmunity, and especially amongst us Black Men. Royce has been in my top 5 for years, not just because of his pen, but because he literally transformed from waving military grade explosives way before a RondoNumbaNine, and wrestling with alcoholism, to being Grammy nominated for talking about it all, amongst some of the very best Hip-Hop has to offer. A true Artist's artist, and a survivor. Big up to Royce for continuing to overcome all that's been thrown at him and learning from it, and shout out to all the smart brothas up there with him. We rescued a Bull Terrier about 3 years ago now, and named him Royce out of respect for this man's creativity, talent, and determination. This interview has inspired me even more to look at creating a hub in my own city! 💯 BTW...Ras Kass of the HRSMN is STILL waiting on an answer back about a possible "Slaughterhorse" project. Released a whole song about it lol.
I don't wanna waste my time with this interview unless Royce addresses how Lupe Fiasco and Mickey Factz lyrically slaughtered him for being disrespectful and outta pocket on his instagram lives about a year ago.
Royce was wrong to call Lupe a bitch. But you don’t think that Lupe has just as much blame? How would you react if you are in your office at work and your coworker comes into your office with no shirt on and starts yelling at you? How will you respond?
@@iz630 I don't care that Royce called him a bitch, and claimed to be better than other rappers while dismissing Lupe and Mickey Factz. I care that Royce popped shit and then didn't respond when he got his ass handed to him back to back when it was what he asked for. That is unforgivable to me. Then he tried to act like a victim of a surprise attack when he just fucked around and found out that the ppl he was trying to herb were actually bigger wolves than he'd ever tussled with lyrically.
Royce says in this interview he didn't look at lupe as someone to battle go back to his interview with sway he said Lupe and him is a battle not him and yelawolf
@@superdopehiphop Yes he’s from Detroit.. I know him from being a Hebrew Israelite and doing that type music but it was always different. He’s on that same level as those guys. Check him out on UA-cam!!!
Prince told y'all back in the 80's how important it was for artists to own their own masters, that's why he wrote slave on his face cause back then he was in a fight with Warner Brothers to get his masters from them.
He sounds a lot like lupe now talking about masters. He just said no one is vocal about label heads like Lyor Cohen, knowing that’s one of the people lupe was most vocal about when it came to 360 deals and owning masters.
When lupe was freestyling in between listening to Royce Diss song (then didn'teven bother to listen to the whole thing)...Royce couldn't reply back after that , that would been a career ending if Lupe was serious
Lupe’s diss was mid until the final min. You can tell it was made very quickly. Lyrically Royce song washed Lupe’s but Royce was just lyrically flexing with a few lines while Lupe was direct. The person with the best combo of lyricism and direct diss was Mickey Factz by far! He actually washed Royce! Wraith was pure 🔥 Also I promise you Lupe listened to Royce’s diss. I love all 3 of them as MCs by the way.
@@superdopehiphop yes I agree but that my point. Lupe reply was a freestyle so it was mid but that was impressive for him to do it on a fly and was even recited Royce lines with his own reply . And it was freestyle because Roy can’t freestyle ( Royce admitted during live with Lupe ) so that was a shot And I believe Lupe thadidn’t listen to the whole song . During live QA fans were bring up bars latter of that diss and his Demeanorshows he didn’t listen to rest of it. Lupe is so smart and so lyrical he drops what like 4-5 songs afterwards , wasn’t no diss to Roy but show him you ain’t on my level. And I’m disappointed in Royce that he didn’t reply at all and wanted to bring in Other members slaughterhouse to battle that he started. Man I love Royce has a MC he lost me on this feud. And yes Micky Diss was 🔥🔥
Royce: "With the record, when I did mine it was still in the friendly competition category" The record: "You forgot the dude who was about the chi whose was locked inside Without him you'd be dead, probably dread standing beside you" "You respect white people more than you love black people" "I'll put a hole in your son while he's holding your sun chips While you're over there with a chip on your shoulder Like you Hova or some shit" The first one alone (about Chilly Chill and Lupe) is enough to know it wasnt no friendly record. You dont go at Chill to sneak diss Lupe just like you dont go at Hailie to diss Eminem. Dude calls Lupe fake, beta, a pussy and more. Oh and lets not forget, "I'm with all the smoke" but apparently not.
"Hov said I'm Hov, Nas said I'm Nas. That's the thing, you ain't gotta think when ni99as already think you are" Royce earned every brutal bar back at him.
@@bw4348 Factz he wanted to get by being disrespectful to a respectful guy. He forgot he was really dealing with possibly one of the greatest MC's of all time
Actually he sounds way more mature and reflective than all these idiotic fans who want to see two grown men and great rappers diss each other just to be entertained.
Definitely a good interview good to see my guy Courtney up there with Royce they spoke about some real things this industry offers an don’t offer business minds 🧠 free game #Detroit #BestofTheBest
@@presidave1931 if you get your groupie head out of royce's ass for 1 minute. You would see crook and joell saying every phone call that was made ended with Joe not wanting to rap anymore. Royce says budden was ready to rap on certain conditions. Like I said, the group needs to get on the same page with better communication. Need me to break anything else down for you?
Royce da 59 said in his last argument with Joe Budden and Joel he won’t talk about this issue again and now is doing it. Royce is a character and he’s acting and that’s a bad image for Shady Records.
still don't understand how Slaughterhouse being done was any kind of shock when Budden has said he's retired from rappin... like, it was over, nothing was being done. /shrug wish they could all get on the same page and none of this mud slinging happened from Budden and Royce.
Did you not listen to the interview? Them as a group despite what Joe said publicly had knowledge via multiple meetings they had of joes willingness to rap once they retained ownership.
Girl I heard him say something about he didn't even get a text or phone call... Like WTF are you smoking? Crook called several times and got crickets. I mean is Royce calling him a liar? 🤷🏼♀️🤔
I've always been a Royce fan & I can sense the pain he feels about his fall out with Crooked. I honestly hope they can mend their relationship at some point
@@christopherayettey4390 Mickey Factz literally washed Royce and had the best combo of lyricism and direct diss of the 3 by far and I love all 3 of them as lyricists!
Royce shouldn't have even fell for the slaughter house bait question. All this did is Open wounds back up for Joell and crooked to come back and rebuttal everything he said. Breakfast Club good for doing this type of bullshit
I like Royce but he’s twisting the Slaughterhouse narrative. Crook and Joel waited 10 years for Joe and Royce to get slaughterhouse moving to the next step. Joe was adamant he had retired. Even when the group came off shady, they waited over a year but Joe didn’t want to rap. Crook even went public to try get them together to move the group forward. Royce has always been stuck to Joe.
@@Justinmjm12 crook and Joel are not obligated to Royce and budden timeline. They made the best move for them. Kudos for taking control of their careers. Project was 🔥too
@@Justinmjm12 you obviously didn’t listen. I followed the whole saga from the beginning. Even when Crooked had presented a deal, he tried to speak to them all. Joe called Joel and told him he would call Crook, but Crook never got a call. Joe was NEVER going to rap. He has said it time and time again. Royce for some reason is delusional thinking he would.
Lupe is ILL AF at his best just like Royce but besides final minute or so his diss was mid. You could tell it was put together quick. Lyrically Royce’s song killed Lupe it was just less direct and more few lines and flexing lyrically. Mickey Factz is the one who murdered Royce combining ILL AF lyricism and direct AF dissing.
@@superdopehiphop disagree fam. Lupe joint was clear and direct with just enough lyrical demonstrations to know Lupe could easily go there if he wanted to. Also, Lupe was out to prove his point and put Royce out of his comfort zone. It's interesting how Royce is framing this like Lupe overreacted. I guess he is relying on the audience not knowing about some details. Also, what Mickey did sounds like it was SLR 2 inspired. It was great, but it don't have nearly the same impact as Lupe's diss and impact is everything in a diss.
@@ImInYourBrains Impact bc majority of masses sleep on and don’t know who Mickey Factz is and he wasn’t the main part of the beef, but lyrical execution and pen game creativity mixed with being direct Mickey’s diss was light years > Lupe’s and this is coming from someone who loves Lupe’s intricate deeply layer skill set. Royce came from a lyrical flex perspective and showed how nice he was. It was clearly never a diss SONG but a skills flex with a few jabs. I do agree Royce not coming back to Lupe and Mickey and the way he’s acted on IG lives and certain interviews is not a good look. Lupe’s 1st diss he could of destroyed lyrically and directness which was disappointing as a HipHop head of 35 years who lives and breaths it while loving battle rap too! I think Royce knows he can’t battle rap with Mickey or if he could it would take a long time to have a doper diss then Wraith.
@@FALLACYix couldn’t disagree more. I choose to remain objective. Lupe one of my favorite writers and intricate deeply layered lyricists ever, but he brought his C+ pen game which was very obvious next to Royce simply lyrically flexing song and Mickey’s (the best combo of both). I def wish Royce replied to both and he’s had bad looks on IG/interviews, but maybe as someone who had beef with many in the past when he had a lot of issues (alcoholism, Jail for a little bit) he didn’t want to be apart of that energy, but then don’t throw jabs at ppl and be condescending on IG lives. I’m sad there was no A game lyricism + directness back and forth. They did two diff things in their tracks so it wasn’t really a battle.
Royce left so much out of the Lupe and Mickey Factz beef. He was the one goading them from the beginning and now he turns around and acts all zen and shit.
Long story short...there's no right or wrong way to do business. Its all subjective to your circumstances, your situation and your mentality at that time. So it is what it is.
Royce Da 5'9" always gives great interviews. He's mature and down to earth. He dropped a lot of jewels here that we all can learn from. It's a shame that Slaughterhouse are no longer a group. Hopefully one day they reunite for a song, show or even an album. 🤞🏻
Great show man 💯 Big up to Royce one of the most underrated ever!!! Dude would destroy 95 percent of today's rappers easy, hope he and Crook can sort they differences out. PEACE Y'ALL ✌️
I have faith that Royce and Lupe will figure things out and get back to the podcast in due time. I really enjoyed their dynamic and I feel like I can hear a sadness in both of their voices when they speak on their sides of the story.
I wouldn’t underestimate lupe’s ability for a battle rap..that same intellectualism that Royce is talking about would given him all the weaponry needed for a top tier battle rap
You should hear how Lupe obliterated Royce on "Steve Jobs". It was brutal. Royce didn't even respond but you could tell his feeling were hurt. He asked for it though.
@@draenation265 If you're a Royce fan, then you should have the mental faculties to see "Lupe" and "trash" don't belong in the same sentence, so it's clear that you lost your sense of taste before you ever caught covid. You're entitled to your opinion though. I'm just not gonna waste my time arguing with it.
28:30 Slaughterhouse
39:53 Lupe Fiasco
I appreciate you
You the GOAT
goat!
Courtney Bell ⏰✈️🔥
Love yo see it!!!
Goated
Royce is really a intellectual person every interview I see him on is incredibly enlightening hats off to this man
Chico Bean & Royce 5'9 could pass as brothers
And I love chico bean head ahh too 🤣❤️
Chico can play Royce in his biopic lol
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No lie I thought he was until
I been said that.lol
Love Royce's mind and continued evolution. I always take time to listen to this man speak. Nothing but respect
Lmao 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣
Royce is one of the most honest, intellectual and articulate brothers in the rap game. Love listening to him drop GEMS
He lied the whole interview u must be on drugs
He lied a lot
Still miss The Lupe & Royce show. That was my absolute favorite podcast at the time.. Royce was actually the funnier one.. very dry humor, but hilarious. They had great chemistry. Still wish they could channel that energy into a musical collaboration. They could have been a great duo.
Me too, I enjoyed the Lupe and Royce show so much. But I recall Lu getting persuaded by his following to do a podcast back when he was always on IG Live during the start of the pandemic. He was always very apprehensive about it but he was also doing this podcast as a solid to his homie Tom.
I miss it too. Not just for what it was, but for what it could've been in the future had they continued do it. All things must come to an end though I guess
Idk, it always seemed like a ticking time bomb to me. They were low key testy from early on and it just got worse over time. Would be nice to see them make amends, but I doubt they work together in that kind of format again.
@@JustinJ Looks like somebody's stalking me. Sorry, but I don't swing that way. Try calling your boyfriend, Diddy.
R5'9" is the man yo
I love that he held his brothers down. He is a real one.
Hella dope to see Royce continue opening doors and taking a great artist like Courtney Bell under his wing. As a Detroit native and an artist myself, I’m very proud to see this.🔥🔥🔥
WHOO!??
@@christopherayettey4390 you gone learn soon enough just sit back and watch
@@christopherayettey4390 Someone talented enough to be mentored by Royce and make it to The Breakfast Club. Lol. The Internet is free ya know...
@@gemsound mfs love to project the hate rather than say “I never heard of Courtney bell but he gotta be hella talented bcuz Royce is his mentor, let me check him out” that’s what’s wrong with us and our culture, way too quick to hate on the next man
@@StayinMotion_ro Bingo.
Royce is misrepresenting the events in my opinion. I saw those instagram lives and Royce was very disrespectful, dismissive and spoke in circles around actually having some level of lyrical competition while simultaneously talking about how he's the best. Lupe just wanted to set the terms of what the standards would be for proving you're the best and then actually go and prove it on a song or battle of some sort. Royce kept belittling Lupe and Mickey Factz, talking about how they don't measure up.
Royce's tone is completely different in this interview compared to those lives. He definitely earned that outcome he got.
You're forgetting the most important part
Lupe's opinion wasn't warranted
It was a convo mostly between Royce, RJ, and Ransom with Factz as a mediator. That's why all 3 of them dismissed Lupe, not just Royce. Had he stated his opinion and then went about his business, we would have a Royce, Rj, Ransom collab by now because that's where the conversation was going before Lupe butted in.
@@kingakil8599 that was a month before the beef. The convo was deaded and then brought back in another form weeks later by Mook and Lux. Look at the videos and the dates
EXACTLY! This is why I can't buy him being over it. U don't lie about the facts if your truly over it. Don't worm that way.
Royce do be cappin but Lupe was eggin Royce on and kept trying to be funny saying Royce wasnt the best he aint on eow he aint the best repetitively on live then royce got fed up with it and started saying im better then them and im better then you but that was after several lives of Lupe clownin
I was thinking the same thing! I love him as an artist, but he was so convoluted with the message he was trying to get across. At one point I thought he was trying to bring competitive energy, and I was excited about it. Then when anybody challenged him, he would switch up his stance, on some passive shit....but at the same time kinda bullying people like Mickey. I was disappointed big time, but I'm still a fan of the music
Top ROYCE DA 5'9 projects
1. Book of Ryan
2. PRyme
3. Layers
4. The Bar Exam
5. Hell: The Sequel (w/Eminem)
6. PRyme 2
7. Success Is Certain
8.The Bar Exam 2
9. The Allegory
10. Death Is Certain
PROUD TO BE ALIVE TO SEE AHK GET WHAT HE DESERVES! C.BELL CONTINUE TO PUT ON💯🥂🤎
Slaughterhouse definitely is one of hip hop’s biggest disappointments
That's so true
Yea but they were great with the little be got. Definitely put them up there with the Wu-Tang an Lox
You said it🤦♂
First album was great, the one with Eminem was ehhhhh
@@mikekumar9308 an the mixtapes an freestyles were crazy
Wow!! Royce's growth is really amazing. He definitely has jewels to offer with his insight.
Seeing Courtney bell on here was definitely high energy
Love Royce dropping music industry gems and insight.
Envy did a great job with questions on this interview 💪🏿 I’m used to him asking “ for those who don’t know… “ questions 😂😂😂
He can't ask dumb questions anymore now that Angela Yee left the show.
lol envy and his "for those who dont know" questions, lol i remember when they called him out on it
he's only regretting what he said because Lupe humiliated him.
Big shout out to Royce 59 he's always been one of our crown jewels of Detroit..Proud of you brother.
The entire tone and delivery of this incredibly insightful interview is why therapy is very important, especially in the Black Commmunity, and especially amongst us Black Men. Royce has been in my top 5 for years, not just because of his pen, but because he literally transformed from waving military grade explosives way before a RondoNumbaNine, and wrestling with alcoholism, to being Grammy nominated for talking about it all, amongst some of the very best Hip-Hop has to offer. A true Artist's artist, and a survivor.
Big up to Royce for continuing to overcome all that's been thrown at him and learning from it, and shout out to all the smart brothas up there with him. We rescued a Bull Terrier about 3 years ago now, and named him Royce out of respect for this man's creativity, talent, and determination. This interview has inspired me even more to look at creating a hub in my own city! 💯
BTW...Ras Kass of the HRSMN is STILL waiting on an answer back about a possible "Slaughterhorse" project. Released a whole song about it lol.
which song?
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Dope interview! Royce is definitely a rap god and Detroit legend.
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Royce is THE Most underrated Lyricist in the rap game
One of for sure!!
@@stefanyb7573 Sean is too
I don't think so, I feel like Nickel gets his just due as a lyricist.
Jon Connor too bro
What game? He 47yrs old never had 1 damn song win he over rated been over rated if anything
I don't wanna waste my time with this interview unless Royce addresses how Lupe Fiasco and Mickey Factz lyrically slaughtered him for being disrespectful and outta pocket on his instagram lives about a year ago.
Royce was wrong to call Lupe a bitch. But you don’t think that Lupe has just as much blame? How would you react if you are in your office at work and your coworker comes into your office with no shirt on and starts yelling at you? How will you respond?
@@iz630 I don't care that Royce called him a bitch, and claimed to be better than other rappers while dismissing Lupe and Mickey Factz.
I care that Royce popped shit and then didn't respond when he got his ass handed to him back to back when it was what he asked for. That is unforgivable to me.
Then he tried to act like a victim of a surprise attack when he just fucked around and found out that the ppl he was trying to herb were actually bigger wolves than he'd ever tussled with lyrically.
@@bw4348 that’s fair I guess
@@bw4348 ok but who are who to any of these ppl ? 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣 Good luck in life sir
Royce says in this interview he didn't look at lupe as someone to battle go back to his interview with sway he said Lupe and him is a battle not him and yelawolf
Great Great interview and they broke everything down perfectly 💯
Courtney Bell is a fire lyricist!!!! Been following him for years!!!!APTTMH!!!!
I’m sleeping school me. He from Detroit? Surely he’s not as ILL as Elzhi Royce Eminem and One Be Lo from Michigan right?
@@superdopehiphop Yes he’s from Detroit.. I know him from being a Hebrew Israelite and doing that type music but it was always different. He’s on that same level as those guys. Check him out on UA-cam!!!
@@superdopehiphop peep his LA Leakers freestlye and his “the flyest” freestyle for a taste, for a deep one check out God body 3, hit up pride too
He's bugged out now. Not with the bible, but mixing philosophies and everythinf.
Yeah I pray the brother find his way back to the light. He went off and tried that ayahuasca and ain’t been right since.
Royce a clown for this. “That ain’t your job to bring a offer to the table” then begins to contradict himself.
Walking contradiction
"Silence of the Lambda" is a fuckin *MASTERPIECE*
*THAT SHIT* needs 2 be enteted into the Library or Congress
Yeah but steve jobs absolutely killed royce
@@mirblu1628 yeah. But I don't go back 2 listen 2 it anymore. It was good 4 what it was 4.
Royce a legend in Detroit 💪🏿
Prince told y'all back in the 80's how important it was for artists to own their own masters, that's why he wrote slave on his face cause back then he was in a fight with Warner Brothers to get his masters from them.
He sounds a lot like lupe now talking about masters. He just said no one is vocal about label heads like Lyor Cohen, knowing that’s one of the people lupe was most vocal about when it came to 360 deals and owning masters.
*My guy Royce hasn't been outside since Lupe & Mickey Factz got at him lol 😆😂.*
I appreciate Charlamagne bringing up the Lupe situation & I respect the mental space Royce is in. Great interview!
When lupe was freestyling in between listening to Royce Diss song (then didn'teven bother to listen to the whole thing)...Royce couldn't reply back after that , that would been a career ending if Lupe was serious
Lupe’s diss was mid until the final min. You can tell it was made very quickly. Lyrically Royce song washed Lupe’s but Royce was just lyrically flexing with a few lines while Lupe was direct.
The person with the best combo of lyricism and direct diss was Mickey Factz by far! He actually washed Royce! Wraith was pure 🔥
Also I promise you Lupe listened to Royce’s diss.
I love all 3 of them as MCs by the way.
@@superdopehiphop yes I agree but that my point. Lupe reply was a freestyle so it was mid but that was impressive for him to do it on a fly and was even recited Royce lines with his own reply . And it was freestyle because Roy can’t freestyle ( Royce admitted during live with Lupe ) so that was a shot And I believe Lupe thadidn’t listen to the whole song . During live QA fans were bring up bars latter of that diss and his Demeanorshows he didn’t listen to rest of it. Lupe is so smart and so lyrical he drops what like 4-5 songs afterwards , wasn’t no diss to Roy but show him you ain’t on my level. And I’m disappointed in Royce that he didn’t reply at all and wanted to bring in Other members slaughterhouse to battle that he started. Man I love Royce has a MC he lost me on this feud. And yes Micky Diss was 🔥🔥
@@rachaad FACTZ!
@@superdopehiphop it was better than Royce's diss.
Royce still feel a way but Royce can compartmentalize as well
Boldy James is a monster from Detroit!
He's boring
Man oh man he’s something else
@@christopherayettey4390 how is he boring?
@@gavinmand1079 yeah... It's entertaining to me man... Knuwledge is power
Royce: "With the record, when I did mine it was still in the friendly competition category"
The record:
"You forgot the dude who was about the chi whose was locked inside
Without him you'd be dead, probably dread standing beside you"
"You respect white people more than you love black people"
"I'll put a hole in your son while he's holding your sun chips
While you're over there with a chip on your shoulder
Like you Hova or some shit"
The first one alone (about Chilly Chill and Lupe) is enough to know it wasnt no friendly record. You dont go at Chill to sneak diss Lupe just like you dont go at Hailie to diss Eminem. Dude calls Lupe fake, beta, a pussy and more.
Oh and lets not forget,
"I'm with all the smoke"
but apparently not.
"Hov said I'm Hov, Nas said I'm Nas. That's the thing, you ain't gotta think when ni99as already think you are"
Royce earned every brutal bar back at him.
@@bw4348 Factz he wanted to get by being disrespectful to a respectful guy. He forgot he was really dealing with possibly one of the greatest MC's of all time
PEACE TO THE GODS! My Big Bro Courtney out here making moves man. Glory be to YAH
Bruh Royce trying to explain the Lupe situation is like someone who got all the excuses in the world why they lost a fight.
You think lupe better?
@@christopherayettey4390 I mess with both of them, but I do believe Royce was holding back.
Actually he sounds way more mature and reflective than all these idiotic fans who want to see two grown men and great rappers diss each other just to be entertained.
@@mynameismynameis3322 True, it's shows a lot of maturity & growth on Royce part.
What was unclear in how he explained it? Lupe thought he said something he didn’t say, Lupe turnt up and it got away from them.
Damn Lupe don’t chased Royce all the way to the Breakfast Club
Royce capping right now about Slaughterhouse situation.
He's capping about Lu & Mickey too. Smh.
Word
Definitely a good interview good to see my guy Courtney up there with Royce they spoke about some real things this industry offers an don’t offer business minds 🧠 free game #Detroit #BestofTheBest
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Royce says budden was about to make an album..... but joe said multiple times since 2018 he's retired. They need to get on the same page.
Yeah Royce still running with that
yall think yall know more than Royce.. smh.. U missed where he says if they own SH he will rap..
@@presidave1931 if you get your groupie head out of royce's ass for 1 minute. You would see crook and joell saying every phone call that was made ended with Joe not wanting to rap anymore. Royce says budden was ready to rap on certain conditions. Like I said, the group needs to get on the same page with better communication. Need me to break anything else down for you?
@@presidave1931 HE BEEN Saying that can let stop the block just cause you don’t wanna sell dope no more
Everybody retired til they’re not. Royce literally said Joe said he’s retired, but would rap if they had ownership.
💎💎💎'z... Big 313 Shit!!! I Have Had The Pleasure of Meeting Royce and the Privilege of Going to His Studio!! KEEP GOING UP KING!! 👑👑👑
Royce da 59 said in his last argument with Joe Budden and Joel he won’t talk about this issue again and now is doing it. Royce is a character and he’s acting and that’s a bad image for Shady Records.
Big FACTS
Royce aint on shady records.....
@@krump743 do your research
@@welter_3 hes not signed to shady records as a solo artist fkn pleb
🗣 *DETROIT STAND UP !!!* 👑
Very dope conversation. I loved the back and forth with everyone.
🕓 Royce speaks Extremely 🤔 Wisely.
still don't understand how Slaughterhouse being done was any kind of shock when Budden has said he's retired from rappin... like, it was over, nothing was being done. /shrug wish they could all get on the same page and none of this mud slinging happened from Budden and Royce.
Exactly it’s been 10 years. Royce still acting like it was something left. Joel and Crook made the best move for them
Did you not listen to the interview? Them as a group despite what Joe said publicly had knowledge via multiple meetings they had of joes willingness to rap once they retained ownership.
@@Clark910x i heard it, don't believe the hype
Girl I heard him say something about he didn't even get a text or phone call... Like WTF are you smoking? Crook called several times and got crickets. I mean is Royce calling him a liar? 🤷🏼♀️🤔
I've always been a Royce fan & I can sense the pain he feels about his fall out with Crooked. I honestly hope they can mend their relationship at some point
Detroit 🔥🔥🔥
I was so upset when him and Lupe had words with each other. They are 2 of the coldest cats ever.
Pissed me off mickey thought he did something
@@christopherayettey4390 Mickey Factz literally washed Royce and had the best combo of lyricism and direct diss of the 3 by far and I love all 3 of them as lyricists!
@@superdopehiphop he cooked him, but you can kinda tell Mickey was sitting on some of them bars for a while. Felt like some weirdo ish IMO.
@@contemporaryart3404 your opinion is trash
"Thousand dollar frames I prefer to see the world through" - Royce - 2011 BET Cypher
I’ve been trying to figure out the name of those frames for YEARS
@@TeamLOGtv The ones in the cypher are from Gucci. Probably from that year. But they still have similar models.
" i don't see the enthxding through these millionaire emblems" - GOD MC
Listen to that carefully JAY Z Meant two things🤔🔥🔥🔥
don't ask me nothing about budden i beat my girl too
Royce shouldn't have even fell for the slaughter house bait question. All this did is Open wounds back up for Joell and crooked to come back and rebuttal everything he said. Breakfast Club good for doing this type of bullshit
Royce just said that it was messy and he just made it more of a mess!
End of the day I wouldn’t keep waiting around for when THEY wanna get up…
EXACTLY
Royce a legend frfr one of the 🐐
Lyrically, Royce needs to always be included in that list
I like Royce but he’s twisting the Slaughterhouse narrative. Crook and Joel waited 10 years for Joe and Royce to get slaughterhouse moving to the next step. Joe was adamant he had retired. Even when the group came off shady, they waited over a year but Joe didn’t want to rap. Crook even went public to try get them together to move the group forward. Royce has always been stuck to Joe.
You obviously didn’t listen joe and Royce wanted the right deal not just the first deal to come that’s bad business and they had to get off shady
@@Justinmjm12 crook and Joel are not obligated to Royce and budden timeline. They made the best move for them. Kudos for taking control of their careers. Project was 🔥too
@@Justinmjm12 you obviously didn’t listen. I followed the whole saga from the beginning. Even when Crooked had presented a deal, he tried to speak to them all. Joe called Joel and told him he would call Crook, but Crook never got a call. Joe was NEVER going to rap. He has said it time and time again. Royce for some reason is delusional thinking he would.
They just said the deal was ass but it’s still joes fault FOH
@@Clark910x yeah but all it took was to call Crook and tell him. Crook said JOE never got back to him!
Portland, JAMAICA in the Building !!!!!!!!!
Royce’s brother made a hell of a diss track for Mickey
Wonderful interview!!! They need to make this dude a regular one the breakfast club!
Courtney Bell x The BreakfastClub!!!!! 🏆🏆🏆🏆🏆🏆🏆🏆🏆🏆🏆
w/ the OG Royce 🐏🐏🐏🐏🐏🐏🐏
Courtney Bell 👑🔥
big factsssssssssssssss wait till you hear his new project
"Niggas think they seen the same things that I've seen...just cuz we on Instagram in the same glasses".
~Savages
no one can paint royce in a bad light.....royce is a real legit artist.....royce has had some really tough times.......he made it
Lupe and Mickey painted Royce in a bad light with his own blood. Then he ran, painting himself in a bad light.
Royce, that's how you feel and we get it. But truth be told,Lu had you in a headlock with that "angry sheet" as you called it.
Lupe is ILL AF at his best just like Royce but besides final minute or so his diss was mid. You could tell it was put together quick. Lyrically Royce’s song killed Lupe it was just less direct and more few lines and flexing lyrically.
Mickey Factz is the one who murdered Royce combining ILL AF lyricism and direct AF dissing.
@@superdopehiphop disagree fam. Lupe joint was clear and direct with just enough lyrical demonstrations to know Lupe could easily go there if he wanted to. Also, Lupe was out to prove his point and put Royce out of his comfort zone. It's interesting how Royce is framing this like Lupe overreacted. I guess he is relying on the audience not knowing about some details.
Also, what Mickey did sounds like it was SLR 2 inspired. It was great, but it don't have nearly the same impact as Lupe's diss and impact is everything in a diss.
@@superdopehiphop terrible take. Lupes diss >>>
@@ImInYourBrains Impact bc majority of masses sleep on and don’t know who Mickey Factz is and he wasn’t the main part of the beef, but lyrical execution and pen game creativity mixed with being direct Mickey’s diss was light years > Lupe’s and this is coming from someone who loves Lupe’s intricate deeply layer skill set. Royce came from a lyrical flex perspective and showed how nice he was. It was clearly never a diss SONG but a skills flex with a few jabs.
I do agree Royce not coming back to Lupe and Mickey and the way he’s acted on IG lives and certain interviews is not a good look. Lupe’s 1st diss he could of destroyed lyrically and directness which was disappointing as a HipHop head of 35 years who lives and breaths it while loving battle rap too!
I think Royce knows he can’t battle rap with Mickey or if he could it would take a long time to have a doper diss then Wraith.
@@FALLACYix couldn’t disagree more. I choose to remain objective. Lupe one of my favorite writers and intricate deeply layered lyricists ever, but he brought his C+ pen game which was very obvious next to Royce simply lyrically flexing song and Mickey’s (the best combo of both).
I def wish Royce replied to both and he’s had bad looks on IG/interviews, but maybe as someone who had beef with many in the past when he had a lot of issues (alcoholism, Jail for a little bit) he didn’t want to be apart of that energy, but then don’t throw jabs at ppl and be condescending on IG lives.
I’m sad there was no A game lyricism + directness back and forth. They did two diff things in their tracks so it wasn’t really a battle.
*ROYCE SO ENLIGHTENED TIL THE POINT WHERE HE’s BORING*
As one born in ‘92 from VA, first time i ever heard Royce was on Game Radii GTA3 PS2.. nigga was all over that soundtrack 😂😂 real MC though!!
great interview. Royce never dissapoints.
Royce and Joe should release an album called the real housewives of glasshouse
🤣🤣🤣
Lmfaooooooooo! Damn just damn.
@LazDetroit - This Detroit emcee is pioneering the bridge between science & music.🚀
Royce left so much out of the Lupe and Mickey Factz beef. He was the one goading them from the beginning and now he turns around and acts all zen and shit.
Is this the breakfast club last interview as we know it? 🫡 Salute to y’all!
Royce is definitely dope…certified lyricist
"I shouldn't be speaking all the time" Fans been telling you to shut up
Long story short...there's no right or wrong way to do business. Its all subjective to your circumstances, your situation and your mentality at that time. So it is what it is.
I’m clearly not a rapper, but I still look up to Royce as a mentor. Solid dude.
Crazy how he twisted the whole slaughterhouse situation.
Royce Da 5'9" always gives great interviews. He's mature and down to earth. He dropped a lot of jewels here that we all can learn from. It's a shame that Slaughterhouse are no longer a group. Hopefully one day they reunite for a song, show or even an album. 🤞🏻
Naw I’m good. I’m pretty much resolved with the crooked and joel project. I don’t need to hear joe Budden or Royce ever again.
@@odot8148 To each their own.
@@odot8148 A part of you still misses buddens scream adlibs. They belong in slaughterhouse lol
A lot of this was lies but the most egregious one is that Crooked I wouldn't rap lmaooo even he didn't believe that when he said it..
Crooked doesn't rap but joe does royce is goofy lol
@@cesheph exactly ‼️
Just was mediating on this last night. Gotta protect what we expose ourselves to especially on social media
$|0 2 Royce for shedding light on the Detroit street legends & giving LC (Courtney Bell) the platform to reach the next level
Courtney Bell in the building 🔥
Great show man 💯 Big up to Royce one of the most underrated ever!!! Dude would destroy 95 percent of today's rappers easy, hope he and Crook can sort they differences out.
PEACE Y'ALL ✌️
Royce one of the best lyrical master
Respect to Royce, but Lupe > Royce
Royce is on his Rza and Kino is Divine!
Best thing to do is Not sign your Masters over for that advance period! Be patience
If you’ve never listened to Caterpillar, now is a good time as any
I have faith that Royce and Lupe will figure things out and get back to the podcast in due time. I really enjoyed their dynamic and I feel like I can hear a sadness in both of their voices when they speak on their sides of the story.
On of the 🐐’s
Royce Da 5'9 is fire 🔥
Detroit in the building
Bring Joel and crooked to clear the air.
Right I don’t like the one sidedness from the two with the loudest voices.
Courtney Bell gone run the city just watch 👑
You 100% right about chedda boys and rock bottom. They missed their moment!! 🙌🏾
GREAT INTERVIEW... HIS LIPS HAVE ALWAYS BEEN AMAZING.. OH AND HE SPEAKING THAT ISH TOO! LOL
Dope Interview With Royce 💯👍
I said Lou, put your shirt back on 😂
I wouldn’t underestimate lupe’s ability for a battle rap..that same intellectualism that Royce is talking about would given him all the weaponry needed for a top tier battle rap
You should hear how Lupe obliterated Royce on "Steve Jobs". It was brutal. Royce didn't even respond but you could tell his feeling were hurt. He asked for it though.
@@bw4348 i still say Silence of the Lambda was better. Steve Jobs was aight but Lupe flow is trash
@@draenation265 Lol... okay
@@bw4348 you wanna go bar for bar? What Lupe said that was really cold?
@@draenation265 If you're a Royce fan, then you should have the mental faculties to see "Lupe" and "trash" don't belong in the same sentence, so it's clear that you lost your sense of taste before you ever caught covid. You're entitled to your opinion though. I'm just not gonna waste my time arguing with it.
Thank you Charlemagne for shouting out my city, Memphis 🔥