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Haha, I had the playback set to .75 speed from another video and then when this started, I was pretty sure you were stoned...
This is the funniest thing. I just watched a little and my family can't stop laughing. Cheers for that!
This is the funniest thing on the internet!!!!!
Cheers Dan, If a man can't laugh at himself then the rest of the world surely will. Better laugh along with everyone!
Saw this and had to play the beginning back slowed down. About fell out of my chair laughing at the "and that is just nasty!"
@@HomeRenoVisionDIY Anyone remember the "MicroMachines" commercials from the 80-90's? Turn him on 2x speed and it sounds just like one of those! :D
I always found it funny how there are exhaust fans that are bragging about being quieter. I always appreciated louder fans so you could do you #2 business without worrying about someone outside the bathroom hearing the sound effects.
Kevin J. A. That is exactly what I think of every time a new quiet vent fan is mentioned...to have the fan make its noise is half the job I expect it to do when I turn it on....and the noise is just as important as the air movement.
Kevin J. A. No kidding! Plus if it’s not audible, I don’t think it’s working
I have no fan yet (which is why I am watching the videos) I Had to put alexa in the bathroom to play tunes hands free. Also fun to have her play fart sounds when someone else is in the bathroom!!
@@jeffharrison6059 waste water ur bad
fiber helps
My son just texted me. says to watch at 7:06 on .5 speed. He can't stop laughing. Cheers!
I'm partial to the 1.5 speed :) especially when you're pointing around and talking with your hands
Soooooooo I immediately fast forwarded to 7:06 as I read this comment!! The mother of all evil bathroom fan installations!!! And, I'm laughing with you when I say the sweat dripping from your face made it so much funnier!! Hope all is well bud, Dirty Jersey out!!! Oh, P.S. Once again, I learned something new.
Loving ti Steve Knox!
Cheers Mike!
But the intro at .5x man. Too much to handle.
Finally a realistic home reno video. As soon as you went in the attic and the vent pipe wasn't connected I was like, "YES!" I don't know how many times I've run into garbage installs. I often stare in amazement wondering how the install could not have failed and surprised half the house isn't flooded or laced with mold.
I just loved it how he explain like a teacher with patience and very thorough. Great job sir, you are very good.
Pro tip: when you move the attic access lid out of the way, use the back of your hands and you won't leave dirty fingerprints. (Same concept with drop ceiling tiles)
Absolutely one of the greatest How to video guys around. Clear, shows steps and like me discovers problems that happen in homes that are not only 5 years old. We have a house built in 1940 that was flipped. (Kinda). So surprises abound. And thank you for showing the "manhole" crawl space that so many old homes have. This attic looks just like mine! So appreciate the indepth details, and easy explanation. Well done!
I'm glad to see I wasn't the only one who goes to install something and find that it's more involved than it was supposed to be. Another great job... 👍👍👍👍
Cheers Ron, I like surprises but sometimes you just need to shake your head!
This man is awesome. He makes me want to do home renovations. I love his work ethic. He is the best.
First-time homebuyer here. I found your videos when we first started looking for a home to buy almost 7 months ago and didn't know exactly how much work the house we wound up in would need. We finally found a place and will be moving in soon, and this project is one of the first ones we plan to try and take care of ourselves (including replacing non-insulated ducting going out of the roof!). We have a pretty cramped attic space, as well, and since I'm the "small one" at 5'2" I'll most likely be doing a lot of the work up there. All of the information in this video has me feeling a lot more confident to tackle that! :)
One of the other projects we have planned for this year is to improve the insulation in the attic. We're in Michigan, so there are plenty of pretty hot and cold days to go around! Currently, there is existing blown-in insulation, but it's uneven, missing in spots, and there is not a large volume of it overall. An inspection found that it likely below an R40 value. Do you have any recommendations on how to best improve the overall "insulation situation" up there? Would just adding additional blown-in insulation be enough?
Thanks again for all of your helpful videos. I really appreciate you taking the time to walk through every step, even the "simple" things!
Been watching for 2 years. Videos getting better. You're a natural behind the tools and the camera. Thanks for the great vids and keep them coming. I"m an investor and its great to see videos that provide options for "older" homes.
Thanks Tony, glad to hear our efforts are working. Cheers!
Jeff, I'm about to do a huge reno on my first apartment...and I've been spending all my spare time watching your videos! They are so helpful! And I'm in Vancouver, so the fact you're in Canada using things I can find is even better. Can't wait to get started!
11:50 The problem I have had with my NuTone fans, and I see it at 11:50 with your fan, is the housing which has numerous metal holes stamped in it. Additionally, the open areas around the frame where it cuts into the ceiling is also quite porous. They represent giant air leaks into the attic. I covered all the holes with either tape or latex sealant, and then from the attic I sprinkled loose insulation around the entire housing. After this additional work, my 3 fans are now air tight.
You have become my favorite home improvement guy on UA-cam. I am surprised by some of your competition at times that really do suspect installations and I never see you cut corners. You really are a good teacher, because you typically explain why you do what you do and short cuts even. I am a DIY probably middle of the road talent and I usually read up and study every project I take on if I haven't done it before, but your channel is like shooting fish in a barrel. Thank you!
Kudos to you for getting in an attic with a camera. Whenever I'm up there, my objective is to get the hell out as quick as possible. I HATE attic work.
Thanks Jeff! I replaced our noisey 10 year old bath fan with a NuTone no attic access model. Your easy to follow suggestions made the install smooth. My older model was larger so I then had to follow your California ceiling patch video! Thanks again. You saved me $500.
This is one of the top items on my weekend to-do list right now, I'm so glad you posted this! Thanks man
Glad to help! Cheers!
Doing this type of update in an old house: fixing sinful DIY can be frustrating, but once done properly, the end product is so rewarding with a wrong made right. Thanks again for another great DIY update vid.
That fan was the missing link to a lot of water damage in that house. Cheers!
Thank you for using a configuration that needed the attic addressed. Too often we get the "everything is right where it should be" video, only to discover WTH on the other side of the "simple" repair/replace video. At the least, it informs us to check the other side, before starting.
This is the EXACT problem I have in my bathroom! Thank you for this video so next week when the Lead pipe is replaced , I know that the bath fan is next. I’m grateful for you sharing this!
I spend a whole weekend watching your videos. Now I have the confidence to do almost anything. Thank you.
Your head was so close to a few of those nails in the attic, every time you moved I was like oh crap lol.
almost got me. Cheers!
I have a lot of those nails in the roof of my garage and I hate them. Can I just snip them off?
@@alexandrw1000 dont, and please dont bend them over either. I've had to tear off shingles where the home owner did that and it's a nightmare
@@calebmeyers8976 Thanks for the advice. Makes sense when I think about it. If I bend them flush it will be a pain to replace anything that they hold in place.
@@alexandrw1000 Could always put some kind of cover over them, foam or something similar that can be easily removed if ever needed.
i appreciate the sweat. makes me feel better about being soaked after doing any home project.
I'm about to help a buddy remodel his house and we're doing everything with your instruction. Thanks a lot!
Thanks for an excellent description in this how to and the very good warning about the attachment of the grill to the ceiling. I would add that instead of using the little M shape wire mechanism, I made two little holes in the plastic and attached with 2 little screws, it took a couple of minutes and easy to do now and later, no fuss. Thanks !
"Don't send me any emails. I won't read it!" LOL Thanks for the upload! Cheers.
Thank you so much for the advice, especially the extra wiring tutorial. About to do this on my first house flip, and I'm much more comfortable doing it now. Great video sir!!
Im glad u guys reached your new level.
Excellent teaching with explanations!
Thx for your time and knowledge!
"Woah!" I flinched when you almost drove your head into the nails or brads punched thru the ceiling @~ 4:39
Excellent video. My dad was an electrician which meant I got to spend a lot of time in attic & crawl space areas... can't tell you the number of times I encountered DIY situations similar to the install you replaced. Thanks for sharing the proper install!
Those must be some great and itchy memories. Cheers!
Thanks for this video. It finally motivated me to replace my noisy fan. Thanks to this video I only glanced over the instructions. Everything went just as you showed. Perfect! Thanks.
This guy knows everything building-related. I have watched so many of his videos, and I never fail to be impressed with his depth of knowledge and attention to detail.
Cheers my friend!
Hahha I love how you call out all the issues of the previous install and laugh at it. I can't stop laughing even though I'm a newbie.
I bought a house that's a lazy handyman nightmare! I'm thinking my bathroom fan might not be installed properly as well. Thanks to your videos, I know what to look for and how to fix it! I have learned so much from your videos! So many issues with my house have been explained! Just want to say thank you to you and your family for all the information to help people like me who can not afford to have it done by someone else!
Happy to help Dionne. Cheers!
Enjoyed your video - went to Home Depot and got the 'no attic access' unit 100 CFM for $119. The instructions provided never referred to the installation of the L-shaped piece with the electric knock-out (it looked different than the one that you installed) in it. It was 81 today and I ended up having to go into the attic too in order to find the 3-wire that my electrician fished up from an old single switch so that I could run the fan and light independently. Thanks for giving me (50+ woman) the confidence to tackle this!
Thanks for the video, learn a lot. Your video gave me the confidence to install a much-needed vent fan.
U are an awesome dude. I love it wen there’s sweat n laughter fixing some dumbasses installation.😅😅 great job for your hard work n effort to teach the things u know.👍👍
I thought this was a channel about home improvement not a comedy hour. That piped moved like a trombone slide. 🤣🤣🤣
Cheers my man! Can do both at the same time once in a while.
He makes thing simple and easy to understand. He is a good instructor/teacher who make learning fun. Appreciate him!
Jeez, how easy is that. Lol literally any and all questions were answered.
Keep up the great vids!
There’s NO reason water should be getting into the duct. There should be a sealed roof jack and a vented cap on the roof preventing water from entering inside or outside of vent.
Ducting is not a P-trap and shouldn’t be installed that way. Any unnecessary bends in the ducting makes it harder for air to flow and the positive pressure in the pipe will make the fan noise louder as well as reduce CFM’s.
A toto small diameter duct will do the same. Also excessive bends in flexible duct create pockets for lint to collect and will eventually block air flow. Don’t even bother with 3” duct,
Always run 4” for 70-150CFM
or 6” for 150+CFM.
Always run as much rigid duct as possible and keep entire duct as short as possible to reduce inside pipe pressure.
Good rule of thumb match CFM’s to sq ft of room.
A 50sq ft or 5x10 1/2 bath gets a 50CFM
A 10x10 full bath gets 100cFM, and I always round up and over size them but get 1/2-1 some devices.
Panasonic whisper is the bees knees.
I’ve installed well over 100 fart fans.
Two words "handymen" don't understand, static pressure. I worked in commercial and industrial HVAC and we always did a hard run on fart fans.
Glad to see an early comment about as much rigid duct as possible to reduce static pressure yielding more air flow when compared to a flexible duct of same length.
This is why I do my own work. Ripped out the 4 inch flexible lines. Upgraded vents to 6” rigid, insulated R8, 2 backdraft dampers (one on each end) per line, strapped and secured vents, caulked and sealed around fan, installed timer on switches. Immensely superior to the cheap builder install. As the homeowner, I want to prevent problems, save energy and improve comfort for the family. Plus, working with my hands gives me a satisfaction that I don’t get with my office job.
I agree. Run rigid duct whenever possible. Less chance for moisture buildup. Don't understand why he would suggest his way. Just saying.
Agreed! That "P trap" style duct bend idea is pretty misguided. The bends will cause extra resistance to the flow, and the resulting air velocity changes will cause turbulence inside the duct. Especially with a flexible duct, all those ridges and sags will cause turbulent flow and unnecessary resistance and energy loss.
In the end, this adds up to lower fan efficiency and potential for condensation & water collection points. Both of these are undesirable.
References:
web.archive.org/web/20191025165356/www.nachi.org/bathroom-exhaust.htm
web.archive.org/web/20191025165124/www.energyvanguard.com/blog/the-science-of-sag-flex-duct-and-air-flow
web.archive.org/web/20191025165158/www.energyvanguard.com/blog/74831/The-2-Primary-Causes-of-Reduced-Air-Flow-in-Ducts
You always get me laughing, your so down to earth I love it!
Saw this and as an electrician who has installed hundreds....thousands???? of fans over the last 3 decades I was curious. Awesome job Jeff and thanks for stressing the use of the box connectors and pre-twisting your conductors before putting the marrette on. I don’t know how many bad connections I’ve repaired over the years done by people who didn’t ensure the marrette connection was twisted properly it has exposed copper. Two big thumbs up!
Thanks Geoff, Glad to hear you liked the vid. We are trying to help homeowners who can't afford contractors to do a better job than hey could otherwise.!
If your fan is fine except the motor is dying (noisy), you may be able to buy a replacement fan motor for $25. This is much easier to install. Mine seems to die every 8 years or so. The fan he is showing looks pretty nice.
I would love to see your take on how to drill that 4 inch hole in an outside wall for a fan exhaust. Thanks!
Cheers Patrick. that is coming soon!
Once again, very helpful tutorial. Thanks again Jeff!
Thank you the tip about the trap on the ducting was very helpful.
This feels like me when I was trying to find the transformer to the doorbell wire. Ah, memories!
Personally I think a more preventative exterior vent cover would be the best option. Later down the road when that duct fails from age or rodent damage, you can have a constant leak into the attic where it may go undetected. Not everyone uses their exhaust vent regularly, especially the elderly.
I love your videos! Just bought our forever home. I'm going to be on this channel quite a bit! Your painting videos helped me sell my house! Thank you!!
Cheers happy to help and Congratulations!
You do such a great job on instruction and don’t assume anything. I learned so much from this. Per the other comments you are definitely a good “teacher”. Appreciate the preview/end goal and summary afterwards. Great product. Can’t wait to learn from your other videos :-)
"UA-cam's favorite".. you damn right!!!! Love the videos and your personality. you need a TV show!
maybe one day, but I love being on UA-cam. Cheers!
I totally agree...best DIY video and definitely the right guy doing it.
Thank you for posting this
Ed P He’s got a show.... this one. Much more accessible to everyone on the planet, and HE controls what he does and when he does it. Sounds ideal to me.
Weird... I'm doing this in about an hour...
Perfect!
Timing is everything. Cheers!
I used the version of these fans with lights in both of the bathrooms in my mobile home which has vaulted ceilings througout, so there is no access to void above the ceiling. The master bath didn't have an exhaust fan as that bathroom had a window and code says an opening window negates the need for a fan for some reason. In that bathroom I was able fish wire from the GFCI to a new switch and into the ceiling, then cut the hole in the ceiling, cut a hole in the gable end about 2 feet away and run flex duct over and connect it all without opening up the ceiling more than needed for the fan. The other replaced a noisy 1980s mobile home fan/light and I was able to connect up to the existing roof vent. These are great products for this purpose and saved me from having to put in much noisier and ugly "mobile home" quality fans. Love the videos!
Jeff, Thanks so much. Inspired me to install the Nutone fan you recommended.
I agree that a 1 sone level fan is just fine. It's not annoyingly loud, but also not so quiet that people might think it's not working. A bathroom fan is one example where having at least a little sound is probably a good idea.
If you get the opportunity, I would like to see how to remove drop down ceiling panels
kalia lee just lift the tile up and turn it on an angle and they will come out
My favorite DIY channel!
LOL, Thank you m,y friend. ! Cheers! I miss L.A already!
Hi. Montreal here. I vry much enjoy your expertise and vocal delivery. Max does it right too ! Ii ve done a few houses of my own. We are now on month 9 of our own place. Doing a second bathroom. Had a helluva time properly venting the fan outside. Looking forward to finally installing the fan itself. The ducts, the hole, the electrics, the ceiling, joints, paint. Patience grasshopper
Great advice, one of the most important tools in the tool box. Cheers!
This is a job that begs for protective eyewear. That hole is gonna sprinkle stuff into one's eyes. I've had fiberglass get stubbornly stuck into a tear duct.
When all you can do is laugh you know it's bad! 😂
It is either that or start crying. Cheers!
Perfect timing. We’re doing this project in a couple weeks :)
right on kat, Cheers!
thanks for your vids, i just started to work in construction and pretty new to everything so been watching your vids to help me understand things
I can picture the dude who installed that muttering "good enough" and shimmying his butt out of the attic with the quickness.
I know a ton of guys like that! That is why DIY is a better way to go! Cheers!
I thought you were gonna use the rotozip to cut that drywall lol. I was waiting on it..lol i like the rotozip
need an exhaust fan just to use the rotozip. so much dust!
Great job on explaining with simplicity! I was wondering if the wiring could be done without going up in the attic.
I love this guys attitude
As a guy who does air sealing and insulation for my business I appreciated your pain in the attic.
I have one additional step that I recommend with bath fans. In the attic side use a fire blocking foam I.e. Great Stuff around the base and caulk it from below to prevent the conditioned space air from having an easy route to get into the attic’s cold space.
Will the condition space air going to the cold attic air produce ice on the nails in attic during winter season?
yes it will, and mold on the plywood!
Eric Muller Yes, that is why the sealing of bypasses is so important. If cold enough for any length of time it can go so far as to make icicles that when melting will discolor the ceiling and as mentioned can allow mold to grow. I’m going to make $11K in three days later this month because of that very issue.
Another option can be to buy the same model fan as the existing one, and just swap the motors out. Easier said than done but not a terrible job. You may need a multi tool with a carbide blade to cut the old motor and mount off the new and old units. You may need metal drill bits to drill out rivets to remove the motor/ mount. You will need self tapping metal screws to install the new motor and mount into the old housing. Not too tough and it's way easier than trying to remove an existing unit.
Edit: It's also an excellent option if you don't have a space to access the old fan's attachment points.
Jeff you're the best!! 😉 Thanks for sharing!! You are truly making my DIY projects easier. 😊😁
This was beyond helpful! Thank you!
2:30 "Play @ 0.75 speed, "She's a warrrmmm one up here, Max!!!"
Dang, wish you would have shown the electrical connection as that is my weakest areas of home DIY, a side from that will follow this when I fix my own fan in a few weeks when I get to it!
Hi Gilbert, white to white, black to black. Cheers!
First kill the power by flipping the circuit breaker.
@@HomeRenoVisionDIY yah but what if there's 6 wires and they're red black and white... Lol
The red and black are separate power switch legs for combo fan-lights. One is for the light the other is for the fan. Usually your fan will have a separate blue wire that controls the light and that is what you connect the red wire to. But if you dont know what your doing call a professional
I agree. My wires from old fan are too short. How do I add to wires to get additional length?
Man, that was great. Finally, a dIY that includes all the issues I'd have!
Great video for DIYer. I'm doing this project but a new install. I'm using aluminum tape, aluminum flex line [super tight run] and went from 4" to 6" pipe.
Got up in the attic - bathroom fan is not vented to the outside - just blowing into the attic - Hoo-effing-ray!! Do you have a video about installing a duct line from the top of the fan out the side of the house?
"this is an easy job to do" Literally has everything that can go wrong go wrong because of the guy from before lol
Unfortunately, that is the name of the game with home renos. You're usually doing the job because the last 'pro' screwed it up.
Dave C. Right on, more typical than not.
Wow that was clever! Watch later, not sure once again, if I have same model fan..Thanks! You seem very intuitive! love that!
Nice video. Very well done. You have a great personality and I enjoy watching you explain how things work.
My old fan was simply vented to the attic! Do you have a video showing how to install a roof vent? I understand that running it out to the soffit is a no-no.
Into the attic is super bad (mold!), into the soffit is not good because it's not made to be a vent (backpressure among other problems). There may be a soffit vent you can install, but generally speaking, roof vents will come with their own installation instructions, the key is to follow them properly and ensure the vent is installed into the existing roof system (membrane, shingles, etc.) properly. Maybe there are retrofit vent installs though?
14:32 "Not going to be left patching ceiling'.. 14:41 Ceiling patch complete!! :)
Jeff I know this is an old video, but thank you for your content I am a DIY'er myself and watching and learning through insightful and well explained video tutorials such as this one has been a major part of how I've learned how to fix and repair not just homes but many other things as well. Kudos my Canadian friend. Btw you have an excellent camera man Kudos to him as well. God Bless my brother to the north. Jesus Rocks! John 3:16
Enjoy your videos. Well done.
Wow those people need some serious help omg, craziness! Smh well at least they made one smart move, calling you to do their repairs.
we did the entire bathroom. What a nightmare reno before that. The entire video on that bathroom comes out this Saturday. Cheers!
Oh wow I know it looks a thousand percent better now. I will be looking forward to the video! Cheers!
Gloves, repirator, head and eye protection...attics are brutal!!!!!!!
I just installed a similar fan this week, but didn't know the option to install without cutting sizable drywall from around it. I don't recall that being in the instructions. But I also had to move the fan because the electrical was too short for the way the exhaust was oriented, so I would have had to open up the ceiling regardless. The homeowner chose the fan, but I probably would have bought the same one for the space and budget.
It's good to know there's a product out there that can be installed without accessing the space above or slicing out several inches -- or feet -- of drywall.
Thanks for the great tutorial.
huge help for my new fan work. 👍
My fan was installed without any duct work, it was covered with blown in insulation.
FYI that can start a fire. Motor can overheat bc of excessive resistance.
Man... next time wear a mask and gloves... insulation it’s awful for your Heath. Thanks for the video
Awesome video quality, nice work Matt !
this world needs more of JEFF
Thank you, Very kind!
Good informative video. BUT always remember to wear EYE PROTECTION when doing projects like this. I cringed as I saw you looking up and moving .twisting and sawing.
Sir use safety glasses while cutting into drywall
The "mother of all evil bathroom fan installations" at .5 speed is hilarious. I think I'm gonna start slowing you down during your especially funny sayings!!! Love it.
Awesome video! 1st time tuning in and let me tell ya, your demeanor and giggling reminds me of the few actual "craftsmen" I've had the honor of working with/ learning from over my lifetime. Had me cracking up right along with you! Cheers to you Sir, keep it coming! I've got a couple projects I'm hesitant to tackle because others edit out the real stuff like what you discovered in the attic!
No! The. Noise is to cover up fart noises.
LOL. I can help you soundproof the bathroom is necessary!
@@HomeRenoVisionDIY That might make for a great video (if you haven't already)!
A manly fart cannot be concealed by a mere fan.
nintendolunchbox Glad I’m not the only one who wants my fan to sound like a dirt bike 😂
@@HansDelbruck53 LMFAO!
In the future I would wear a mask in the attic. You don't realize how much insulation you just breathed in. Take a picture with flash on your phone if you don't believe me, micro particles are entering your lungs as you made this video.
In your heart, you know he's right.
At least only breath through your nose
Clairity o agree with you. Even tho there is shortage of mask right now, I made some homemade mask to stop what I can
Man I didn’t catch that but I nailed him on the safety goggles!
Great video. Just goes to show ya, any job can end up leading you down the “another” project to be done path. Fan, duct work, electrical, dry wall.....
Man, this was a great breakdown!
Thanks Ian, really looking forward to our 4th year starting next week. Cheers!