Cybertruck - What Tesla ISN'T Saying!
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- Опубліковано 4 чер 2024
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The Wait is finally over and the Cybertruck event is here. So what did we learn and what is Tesla still keeping close to the vest? This is a supercut of the event plus some analysis on numbers and all the special details Tesla didn't mention!
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Chapters
0:00 - Introduction
0:30 - Bulletproof
2:40 - Towing Hauling
6:04 - Innovations
6:40 - Drag race 911
7:50 - My Analysis
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stop saying bullet proof, tesla never said bullet proof for the glass. They just said it would be "armor glass" that they use on semi. The bullet proof was for the steel.
rifle and supersonic handgun rounds will go through, the limit is sub-sonic, that it is still a step up from the 26 gauge mild steel skin or plastic of most vehicles
mistakes in Cybertruck that will render it useless for zombie apocalypses or chaos/war:
1. Acceleration 2.6s to 60mph = there is no tire on planet that can last more than 10k mi. on vehicle with that acceleration which is COSTLY. RWD has 6.5s but then locking differentials are useless when there is nothing to lock but rear wheels, and 17” ground clearance is absolutely POINTLESS because no RWD vehicle will EVER attempt off-roading!
2. No door handles = cannot be opened from outside in strong wind when wind is blowing from the front or the door side, odds are roughly 50% if u park vehicle at random angle to wind.
3. Electric sensor for opening door = cannot be opened in case of electric malfunction or battery depletion while any gas truck can be opened whenever they ran out of gas REMEMBER ITS MEANT TO BE FOR APOCALYPSES WHEN U PUSH THE LIMITS.
4. Standard tires = instead of improving and innovating tires tesla made 3-3.5 ton monster on feet of clay. anyone can stop it by puncturing tires. War in Ukraine shows how even the most luxurious SUV-s have become so vulnerable to tire puncturing due to small pieces of shrapnel on roads.
5. Bulletproof body = STUPID IDEA CAUSE TIRES AND GLASS ARE NOT BULLETPROOF!
6. Ethernet wiring = computers control EVERYTHING even STEERING meaning any chip malfunction could kill you, moreover this system cannot be protected from EMP or excessive solar radiation. Stock Toyota 70 for example outperforms this vehicle in all those features that’s why it is the most demanded rugged vehicle on Earth.
7. Great towing capacity: yes towing capacity is great cause the vehicle is overweight and friction induced on tires is way higher than friction on 2.5 ton truck tires: 3.5ton/4=0.875 ton/tire while 2.5ton/4=0.625 ton/tire just like 2x2=4. Not mentioning 4x more probability that it will get stuck in mud than the same size 2.5 ton vehicle. And when fully loaded it weighs 4.5 tons which is INSANELY STUPID for Apocalyptic roads… Not only 0 chance in mud but puncturing probability drastically increases when under 1.15ton pressure. So in rainy apocalyptic day, 0 chance moving unless on well maintained highway….
8. Steering rectangle instead of wheel = accident guaranteed.
9. Ceiling gear shift = accident guaranteed.
10. Absence of battery heating system = 30-60% cold weather range drop =Gasoline truck-600 miles, Cybertruck-180miles
11. Price = they promised less than 40k for standard vehicle now its over 60k, while 95% of truck prices fall in
WOW what a tesla simp
Just wait until the "Influencers" get it. It will be the iPhone of the car industry
Towing with an electric truck is actually fine. It's distance that is the shortcoming. I say this because there is a distinct difference between someone towing a landscape trailer IN-TOWN and towing an RV trailer cross-country. It's important to observe that distinction. For IN-TOWN use, a Lightning or Cybertruck is more than capable of doing everything you'd want to do in a day. I have 2x Lightnings.
People whine about the towing yet 90% of people rarely tow. Its hilarious hearing all the ridiculous expections that is supposed to have AND be affordable and able to be made in high volume.
That's what she said
IDK about this so few people tow statistic, I just got off the road, I'm a CDL truck driver, and now I drive around town all day. and there are tons of people towing, people tow for work, tow landscaping equipment. tow their toys to go have fun every weekend, can this truck actually safely get down a boat launch ramp! some fools get too far into the water!
One thing I always hated about seeing so many people towing, there are so many people who don't know HOW to tow!!! when you see a truck going down the Interstate at 70mph hauling it's toy trailer, but the rear is dipped down and sashaying down the Interstate, you have exceeded the tow capacity!!!
Yeah, the Ford lighting doesn't get the advertised mileage while towing a 5500lb toy hauler. The range is bearly 150miles. That's 75mile out & 75mile back. You better hope the lake, offroad site or campground you're headed to has EV charging or bring a gas generator BLABLABLA HAHAHA LMAO 😢😮😅😅😅😂 LOL
@@davel696969 but it sure does sound sweet as hell without a set of speakers to pretend with
well I had always wondered what a Pontiac Aztec truck would look like.
So true
I wish they made a Cybervan. That would be a lot more useful.
they will eventualy, but the dictate rollout of tech starts with luxury early adopter vehicles🤔
To go with the cyber stroller, cyber pup, and an AI family.😂😂
Cyber SUV? Yeah you can almost bet on it based on the pickup design
That MUST be in long term plans for Tesla?
I don’t know about more useful, but certainly uniquely useful.
Remember the Delorean? Stainless steel body. Car of the future (or maybe back to the future). Where is that now? Is the Cybertruck destined to the same fate?
Delorean was a complicated car design, and there were many other issues that crushed it.
EVERY Cybertruck comes with a FREE Clown Suit
And a box of N95 masks, the hipsters love them.
Cars were not always 12 volt. They were 6 volt until 1956.
Some were even positive ground, vs the standard negative ground now used.
there is 24v version too
The campers will love this truck because of all the available charge stations that can be found out in the forest when needed.
I think that was one of those padded T-ball style baseballs that Hans threw. Lol. But I don't think you'll have to worry about door dings in the parking lot.
$60000 just to carry some plywood ... expansive plywood ... In China I saw guys carrying about 250kg on bicycles and 450kg on tricycles.
I'm awaiting when the public gets this truck and can do all sorts of tests, I need to see more. Hate the look of it but still curious about it. Thanks for editing down the presentation
I was not sure about its looks 4 years ago, now I fully love how it looks, its grown on me
FYI, that 340 miles of range is based off of the smallest available street tires. With those 35" offroad tires, expect a lot less.
Most definitely, and your caveat is one of many that may take years to overcome!
Where did you see optional tire sizes?
Camissa for hagerty already said 310+epa on 35s for the beastmode tri motor ct. 👍🏻😎
@@haywoodmorganjr1326they are on the Tesla website in the Cybertruck tab
And probably that range is from 100% to 0% not that good for the batteries, and not in the winter time.
The battery extender belongs IN the Trailer/RV so it can Assist with the pull weight and by putting a Motor on a NoseWheel, the trailer can be moved around (unhitched) and used to power a House/Campsite/Jobsite, while you use CT for something else.
Cheers
Agreed, but now you're looking at an insanely expensive trailer.
@@CBR2200
I think there will probably be Chinese knockoffs, hopefully Half the price, by the first quarter 24.
So it (the Trailer) could be used wherever it’s needed for power.
Imagine being able to pull a Trailer behind a Model 3, the Motorized NoseWheel with Regen Braking, would eliminate most of the effort.
Cheers
@@CBR2200
Maybe China will simply Build E-Trailers (or the Sleds at least), because they control most of the Battery market they are cheaper for them to build, in lower quantities - very simple product for a 3rd tier supplier to make.
The Idea of a "spare" pack is going to Showcase the Car Conversion, Retro Car, Tractor conversion Kits, etc.
Cheers
it belongs to the main flat battery because towing your extra battery will just reduce your capabilities! you can very easily triple the range of your diesel truck which is already excpetional by putting an auxiliary fuel tank under the bed so no space is lost for example.
@@carholic-sz3qv
So, you don’t care about using your bed to carry ~ 500 lbs of cargo all day everyday but Only need it when you Tow.
When you’re Towing its in the Trailer/RV to be used independently of your Truck.
If you have a spare fuel Tank ~ 500 lbs - Same thing. You only add that weight when you’re going to Use it.
You should just stick with your Diesel, you apparently have Zero experience with this F-350 Diesel destroyer called CyberTruck.
Can your Diesel do Anything the CyberTruck can do with so much more Efficiently - NO it cannot.
Superchargers are available in many areas and being added rapidly.
Cheers
Just to be clear - the original Cybertruck glass was never claimed to be bulletproof. They called it armored glass or something like that, but the bulletproof claim was for the stainless steel body.
At the Cybertruck unveil they described the Tesla armor glass as "transparent metal". Just see a recording of the event.Then they tested with palm-size steel balls.
It seems the window test was repeated with a baseball at 1:24 replacing the steel ball projectile.
@@groverw7507 Come on, that was plain bs. What's next: a towel?
@@MooseOnEarth yeah, the guy didn't even throw the baseball hard, sort of placed it at the screen, lol.
@@dogbreath6974 Some individuals even question whether it was a genuine baseball because it appeared excessively bouncy upon striking the window. Therefore, it could have been a baseball liner filled with air. It appears they wanted to ensure by all means that the mishap would not happen again. 🙂
I want a Cyber Trailer. Enclosed box convertible to flatbed with a full sized battery pack to offset the range reduction from towing.
Yes!! Hot take, I think tesla will delay the "range extender" and will have some towing accessories!
The introduction of 48v electrical system, bidirectional charging and steer by wire are massive overlooked innovations. As well as the use of stainless steel as a stressed load bearing element is a first too. I don’t think the price is too bad given the inflation the world is suffering and it’s clear that 4680 cell development and production has not gone as smoothly as expected. However, Tesla won’t stop innovation and iteration and will prevail. They will drive Dow costs as production ramps.
It doesnt have bidirectional charging
@@TC-zf1ji According to Jason Cammisa's Cybertruck video yesterday on the Hagerty UA-cam channel, "for the very first time ever on a production car, there is no physical connection between the steering wheel and the front wheels". AND "No one has had the balls to put it into production, until now".
@@TC-zf1ji They did not cut out safety, it has two independent 5 Hp motors to run the rack with back up power supply.
@@TC-zf1ji And I suppose you think that planes still have a mechanical connection from the yoke in the cockpit to the control surfaces? Big surprise, they do not. You call the mechanical connection a "feature" I call it a crutch.
So when the electrics die in a solar storm and you're trying to steer it onto a tow truck as you get winched you're stuck with no way to turn the wheels?
One major reason other pick-up trucks have not changed their construction methods in 70 years is what that market represents to other makers. It is the same body on frame that cars used to be before safety bumper and roll over standards mandated for sedans were legislated. Light trucks were exempted and so were much more profitable to keep making.
Selling the American public on pick-ups as a family car substitute by adding a second row of seats became the major advertising the other makers have pushed for decades. This created the market that the Cybertruck now exists to help fulfill.
I wonder why no one ever questioned why it should be legal for personal cars to evade safety regulations if only they are designed in the least sustainable way. Pretty crazy if you ask me.
The Cybertruck is not safe however. There's numerous design flaws that make it ESPECIALLY unsafe for children. Especially if you prefer your children to keep all their fingers. The collision tests also show that it has 4x the impact force of an F150. Tesla won't even release the entirety of the test dummy video because it clearly looks terrible just from what they have shown.
I was bound and determined to get the 500 mile range model, because I use my truck mostly for towing my RV, but frankly, I nearly always tow my RV where some form of power is available. With that in mind, the dual motor without the extender will be my choice as I would not want to lose any trunk bed space... I would rather spend 30 minutes or so for one recharge stop. Thanks for the great analysis.
I think I would choose the same. If I owned and operated a small towing company specializing in towing heavy loads long distances all day every day, I would still consider diesel as an option. Or if I was towing often in northern Canada, Sahara or Siberia. It seems like diesel will be for rare edge cases in a few years. (Gasoline will be for collector's cars.) Give that a good decade for most of the vehicles already on the road to be retired. Then everything becomes an expedition, because where are you going to get fuel? Charging will be everywhere, but liquid fuel pumps will not be installed in new locations and many old location will close down.
@@geirmyrvagnes8718 🙄
You can use the range extender in cyber truck , range will come close to 500
The issue is you will have to find a place to park and disconnect your camper before charging at a power station. So now it will take much longer than just the 30 minutes for the charging.
@@GravityKillsYou That can be an issue. Tesla (and a few others) are installing some pull-through chargers for this. Gas stations replacing their pumps with chargers is one example. Some inconvenience must be expected along with the obvious awesomeness.
I love it. I want it. It’s perfect for hauling plants home from the nursery, my bike and my dog. Plus, I live on an island so its maximum range is not an issue. The only question I have is about the voltage tolerance. We have a lot of voltage sags in Hawaii, despite what the utility claims.
That’s a good question for Tesla. So, go get the data that shows all the power sags, fluctuations, and ask them if this unreliability is a problem for charging up. Tesla should have a good answer for you, so you can make the best decision for your situation. What island?
Because of the poor electrical service in Hawaii (I’m on Oahu), I am now using the Ting sensor by Whisker Labs, in addition to a whole home surge protector. The Ting sensor monitors daily average, high and low voltages. There are frequent voltage sags beyond the NEC 5% parameter. Just horrible. So, yes, good idea. I’ll inquire with Tesla about their battery recharging tolerance.
Damn your living the dream!
@@temujinkuechle6287
The salesman won’t know but will probably say “yeah, sure it will be alright.” I am an engineer and I think it will be alright, but it may slow the charge rate.
Is your island wet? It won't do well with that...
It may me more easy to put the extender battery on or off than you think.If you have a travers the battery can hang down from, high enough when the truck is knebling so that the truck can reverse under it, then the truck raise again, and the battery can be unhooked from the traverse. The truck movements could even be automatic.
Wanted more range for less money, Unfortunately physics has butted heads with my unreasonable expectations. Want more range, put in the extender. As an engineer, I’m more than happy to accept the compromises and innovations - 48V and ethernet architecture, super strong body & glass, adjustable ground clearance, torque vectoring & 4 wheel steering, 11Kw of off board power, huge trunk with bed liner & cover, crazy acceleration and towing, no paint. Hmmm, maybe not so much compromising after all :-) If you don’t like it, get out of line so I can get mine sooner!! Thanks for the video!
The combination of the super car level body stiffness, steering by wire, rear wheel steering and computer control suspension make this thing drive like a sport car.
The ideas of a separate range extender is brilliant if it can be remove and use as home power wall and hook it back into the truck for long trips
😂😂😂😂
Great idea! Hopefully Tesla is listening.
No vehicle that weighs as much as this thing does handles like a sports car. It might handle good for a wanna be truck but it doesn't handle like a sports car , not a true sports car anyway. Take it to the track with that 911 see how many times the 911 laps you in an hour of track time.
remove it, what with lol.
@@bobbybishop5662 yeah but it's gonna be the most fun TRUCK out of all the other EV trucks, none of the others come close in steering feel
Just wondering how the insurance cost might compare to other EV or ICE trucks.
A dent from a fender-bender??? 😮
OMG - expensive…
Really high insurance.
People who drop $100k on a car shouldn’t care about insurance, anyway.
It is going to be stupid expensive. But no one who is financially frugal is going to buy one of these in the first place. It's purely a vanity Wankpanzer.
Towing / workwise, the cybertruck is similar to a Ford F150 or a Ram 1500. It will tow a smaller horse trailer or a smaller skid steer or tractor. However, it is not going to tow a 5 ton CTL or mini-excavator. Lots of useful work and farming applications. The range is ok, especially with the extra range extender. Considering that the top of the line F150 is about $80,000, this is in the ballpark. I want one of these but do have an occasional need for towing larger equipment 100 miles or less -- for that I would buy a used diesel truck with a dump truck bed.
I use it for carry things- several times a week, love the smooth ride in our city with nothing but potholes, and despise going to gas stations. love my Cybertruck!
I would buy the dual motor version if I could afford it. As the 4680 chemistry improves (v3 maybe), hopefully they'll increase more power into the main battery pack footprint. Powering my house with the truck in an emergency would be amazing and put my mind at ease for situations like this.
Once they add graphene, range will increase
@@gonzostwin1 Funny - putting graphene in Li-ion batteries has been known about since 2020, so why isn't it being used already?
Kind of a stupid idea. A real generator is much more practical. You still would need to adapt your panel for this.
Powering your house in an emergency?
Why not just buy a domestic power battery pack instead?
It's not a given that you need a solar panel installation to get a domestic battery pack.
@@gonzostwin1
"Once they add graphene, range will increase"
Graphene is not magic.
You don't just "add" it to a battery cell, it has to be specifically engineered into the electrodes
I had every intention of getting mine when my reservation comes up.. but I measured the posted length in my garage.. and I have serious doubt it fit 😕. I kinda need to test drive/rent one and see if it will fit in any way.. my only issue with it
My reservation was made for the Trimotor. I think the dual motor will suffice and provide the features I'd appreciate. Yes, having the beast would be quite a novelty but my pockets aren't that deep.
Great video, concise and informative! Thank you.
Elon to his design team: It doesn't have to look pretty but please make sure it allows me to drive right through a crowd of angry twitter users on the way to the launch facility.
The Haggerty video is pretty cool.
And k owing someone who just drove one, it's everything you could expect from Elon
Honestly, as a lifelong opponent of fossil fuel, I feel like the best "range extender" for any electric truck over the next 10 years until batteries *actually* get here, would be a cleaner gas generator used as the Volt does. Or for the $17,000 they want for the range extender, a trailer base w/batteries and the smallest motor Tesla makes. Tesla could make an entire business just selling mobile battery trailers. Look at Lightship.
A smaller battery with a range extender is the way to go.
Reasonably priced PHEV’s would decisively cut liquid carbon fuel usage, far more decisively than very expensive EV’s.
The more battery electric vehicles purchased the better battery technology becomes.
@@temujinkuechle6287 - Inverters mass produced in China are virtually identical to inverter designs from decades ago. Buying something mass produced like batteries, does not improve the technology. Just walk into a dollar store, for unbelievable quantities of other examples.
At 82, I ordered an AWD today. If it takes 2-3 years, so be it. You only live once.
I use my truck exactly as you described for farm/ranch work and long road trips. It’s the primary mode of transportation on the ground. We have a 4 door Jeep for rougher travel, local run-about trips and general fun. It’s also a backup if the truck is in the shop for a few days. It is truly a pain when it’s down. I think I paid too much for it during the pandemic when my “cherry” truck was totaled in the parking lot, (long story not pertinent here), but even with that, is the vehicle of choice. A Tesla truck with the current performance capabilities is a good choice for some limited uses, but is not yet capable of the wide variety 100+ years of vehicle progress has given us with the internal combustion engine. I can see it for the uses you noted. Also, for those with a need that’s occasional you mentioned the percentages, well, that’s a good candidate and then you can cruise Rodeo Drive or the Boulevard and look good. It says you either have a lot of money or most of your wealth is tied up in a vehicle………so you get the best of the practical utility during the day and the ego boost at night.
In time, if the EV idea continues to grow, then these issues will resolve themselves. If it does not then we still have the existing capabilities. Either way, likely won’t matter to me as I’m retired and have little need to change. I’ll let the younger generation solve those problems. My generation solved theirs, and I suspect this will follow a similar path. Patience and attention to detail will win the day.
Ricky I forgot to tell you I love the new format of your show and the great knowledge which comes from your various avenues
Wow, thanks Benjamin, really appreciate you!
Great video! I was expecting a negative take on things, and was pleasantly surprised at your upbeat take, and especially how you identified various market segments of customers and who this truck would appeal to. Thanks man!!!
What are the things Tesla isn't saying? I am 9 minutes in and he has only regurgitated what Tesla is saying. Or is this a clickbait title?
@@heinzerbrew He talked about price, range, the range extender, and a bunch of other things. I think he got to the non-regurge at around 11 minutes in. Patience, young padawan.
Upbeat?
That sounds like another way of saying that they plastered a smile on to get that sweet cheque in the mail 😂
That weird looking Tesla thing looks like the child of Robocop and a Delorean !!
Mashed together by a 5th grade boy!
@@gregkramer5588 I think with the drift towards civil conflict in the US a bulletproof car makes sense, but I would rather pay the gas tax than drive that.....also, the back truck part looks a hot plate and it probably could work as one lol
I have a res too... I'm bummed about the mileage, but will probably keep my reservation also. I wish the extended battery was longer and shallower, or it could of replaced the in bed trunk. I would have preferred that.
I have a reservation but about 700k in line. Hopefully they honor the 7k FSD. After the reveal I would likely go for the dual motor over the tri-motor if they allow that change. Primary reason if dual motor will qualify for tax credit, and I think now has more range than tri-motor. Which after they revealed that both have same size battery that isn’t to be unexpected.
Wonder if you will go with dual motor as well.
I’m at 344k for Tri-motor and will also do for dual motor. Range is why I opted for Tri. I have a 2018 M3D, when I ordered charging was still sparse and trips could get sketchy. Having 500 range would make any route we looked at possible. Charging is way better now, but range is key. If I can, I will also switch to Dual and hope they honor the FSD price.
How much did it set you back? I'm seeing news stories about how they took the prices off the website.
@@dannydaw59 the preorder deposit was only $100 fully refundable. The new deposit is $250. Which I think is still refundable.
Canceled mine. Lots of things to like but at the same time a few things I didn't. Bumping the price so much more than promised was a starter, and back seat Interior space is cramped compared to my crew cab. Then the reduce range killed it for me, my crew cab gets me 400-440 miles on 26 gallons. Now the Ram Charger is scheduled to be released before my pre order CT can get to me and the RC has up to 690 miles on a 26 gallon tank. Will reconsider the cybertruck when it gets more appealing.
Impressive performance data, except for a few details kinda not mentioned: 1) Time required to refuel, 2) Range on a fuel charge, 3) Sub-zero temperature performance or lack of, 4) Problem of Lithium batteries exploding or bursting into white-hot flames. 5) Non-competitive cost(initial and continuing maintenance).
Damn, with 48 volt architecture they have just overtaken my 36 volt lawn mower which was ahead of the market. I need to start looking for an upgraded mower to keep up. 😅
Yes. waiting for mine. I will be lucky to get in one one year.
Probably the reason they go on this ad spree
you’re welcome for the support, thank you for giving viewers more solutions in answers and understanding.
A radical concept car that was built - APTERA, the Solar Electric Car. Stay tuned for next years launch.
Best resume ever. Thanks for a great breakdown 🙌🏻
The range is disappointing, but like you said.. the tech is what it is.. they could wait.. but then it wouldn't be here this soon.. so some concessions had to be made. Also, it now is a real product, and range will improve as the technology improves. I love it though. Kudos to Tesla for delivering. Great video.
4 years...
@@eal1yep in 2027 they might be something I would consider performance wise. Still hate the tesla interiors though, not enough analog controls. The future is not touch screen only, its a balance of touch screen for rarely used/ unimportant controls and physical switches(buttons, knobs, toggles etc) for most often used and critical controls.
Please note: the initial cars had no electric system, then it was a 6v system, then a 12v system and now 48v.
Yo mean 800v system?
@@Sagarmaatha8848 I'm talking about the low voltage system in cars, the system that runs the lights, electronics and so on, not about the traction battery.
48vdc is about as high as you would want to go for the "low voltage" system for safety. The advantage is that the current for a given load at 48v is much lower than it would be at 12v. That means wires can be thinner/lighter, etc.
@@avsystem3142 48v would be really convenient for the Mild Hybrid cars (EU thing mainly) because the hybrid battery is 48v. On my Hyundai i30 I used to have a 12v system with a 12v battery for the lights and electronics, a 48v battery for the hybrid assistance and a 48v starter generator for normal operation and then a 12v starter for starting the car when the 48v was depleated. Of course, after all that, a turbocharged petrol engine with an electronic clutch for a manual gearbox. So yeah, 48v for ICE cars would be really nice.
One thing we didn't learn from this video: what tesla ISN'T saying
For me, I love driving trucks but prefer sedans and SUV’s. This interests me because I can have all the benefits of an suv and a lockable bed when I need it
12v was adopted in the 50's. Before, it was 6v.
Their needs to be a breakthrough in battery technology
Ok. What are you waiting for? Go do it.
Why?
Constant small improvements have gotten us where we are now and look to continue going forward. That's plenty good enough.
For sure, The current products support most applications with long distance towing being the exception. @@zachansen8293
We need PHEV with carbon fuel range extenders. That fixes everything.
Ricky, Tremendous job! Watched several other videos since yesterday, and STILL learned stuff! Thanks so much, SoCalFreddy
36 gallons at $4 per gallon = $144 to fill up for that ICE truck, same range for the CyberTruck $30, Is the extra 30 minutes you spend filling up with $110 or would you be happy making $220 per hour equivalent.
This is a big financial decision for many businesses that will decide which vehicle to buy.
I disagree on one point, Ricky. I think this truck could be huge in the commercial blue collar construction and service markets. It checks all the boxes. Why am I certain? Because I was a commercial carpenter, mostly heavy structural concrete projects. This truck is perfect for individuals' ownership AND commercial company fleets. Most people analyzing the markets for this truck are ignoring this factor.
Take it to the bank: it may take a little time for adoption in the work place but the CT IS a work truck! And it will prove itself as such in the not too distant future. Elon needs to be ready for the demand!
🙄 ah no.
I agree, it provides quite a bit of capability that saves from having to haul a generator around... some people need to transport ladders, a roof rack is coming.
For contractor work within a hundred miles CT will be compelling.
It might not fit the long range freelance transporter role too well, maybe with 2 range extenders installed? Might be better to consider semi if thats your thing.
Is that you Elton?
@@bobbybishop5662it absolutely is a work truck. I am looking at getting one for my hobby farm because of its unique features. Stainless steel bed that you can dump gravel straight into and won’t rust out from scratched paint. The shell is thick enough to weld to so if you need mounts for anything you can do that.
Other trucks can do this but not with such a big battery, it can power your tools without running a small ICE generator.
Seriously, no trade tows long distance. They would lose money if they tried.
So what advantage do ICEVs offer to trades vs Cybertruck?
@@williammeek4078 Hobby farm 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣 that's hilarious.
I want to see a cyber truck do "Hell's Revenge" in Moab and some of the other trails. How about competing in Matt's Recovery Off Road Games next year.
Wretched excess for most truck buyers. From $39k to $60k? YO, ELON! How long will it take to charge at home and will it fit in a garage? No mention of the interior? Does it have a driver's screen where every other manufacturer puts it? Does it have convenient buttons and switches like every other truck? Do I really need 15 speakers? Android and Apple car apps? Where will I get it fixed if in an accident and how much will those panels cost?
Insurance. Repair costs will be insane, and so will insurance. Something to add to your shopping comparisons.
Also, look up the videos of what the doors and rear hatch can do to your fingers. I would not have this thing around children.
My trucks are tools. One plows my road and clears the snow. One hauls all kinds of stuff, and the other gets me around the town and to work when the roads are bad. I like the look of the cybertruck, and it might be a truck to get me around the town and to work. I am still worried about the function in cold weather. Would like to see information on that.
Pretty sure they are using Tesla in Canada, I guess if you are further north than that…
Tesla heats and cools their batteries to keep them operating in optimal range
Cold weather lowers EV performance significantly. Why would someone need a car this large to get around town? Wouldn't an AWD gas or hybrid crossover be superior?
To my mind, this is an outstanding vehicle. It isn’t perfect but it will improve over time. The technology in this vehicle is next level. There is no competition as yet tech wise. It won’t be used for “work” by most people but it is more than capable for most tradies. It needs to gain a foothold in the market and then once they ramp production the prices will come down. The battery will improve quite quickly if planned dev of the 4680 is implemented . Overall, I love it! The future is here at last.
I can taste the tears already, Tesla will definitely lower the price just like they did with the S and X. Probably 10k less by the end of next year. The current price is probably just enough to break even during the ramp up.
what i don't understand is why would buy this if not for work? but a model S. it drives better, is more comfortable and goes faster. literally makes no sense to buy a pickup truck to use as a regular car.
@@GraveUypo It makes no sense to buy a huge 4X4 just to take the kids to school but people do it. 🤷♂️ At least if it’s an EV it’s cleaner.
World didn't ask for Cybertruck, world won't miss it when it flops
I agree and will rarely put anything in the back of the truck.
Thd big range extender size wouldn't bother me.
So once the extender is put on, you are just good to go with extra range and no other hoops to jump through when charging??
The severe excess weight of the extender I would think would mess with the range also, or is that already factored in??
Great summary Mr Da Vinci. Cybertruck does have pros and cons. One thing I would like to point out is the drag race with the Porsche 911. That seems kind of unfair because it was not really designed for drag racing. But it is great marketing so show it the way they did. The cybertruck may not be for everyone but at least there are more choices now and it will push other companies to innovate more.
Plus it is meaningless for the owner to have that performance.
911 not designed for drag racing? Yes, it most certainly is, with its rear engine, launch control, dual clutch trans. It does so very well.
I thought it was a really fabulous gimmick video clip!
And cybertruck IS designed for drag racing of course
Exactly. It's a frikin Truck!
I reserved Cybertruck in November of 2019 and I think it’s pretty good but I also got an email from Tesla saying I’m in the line, but I should check out a Model Y while I wait. That implies a year, or more likely two years while almost as good Lightnings are sitting on dealer lots with discounts and I’m assuming the new 2025 Ford, Ram and GM trucks will roll out about the same time as the Cybertruck line gets into full production.
I figure once Cybertruck demand slows, they will probably drop the price significantly and the others won’t be able to and still be profitable, but that’s my shareholder side thinking.
My car purchaser side wants a truck now, but doesn’t want to pay $70-80k and recognizes that the Model Y can handle the three trailers in my yard, but not necessarily a newer heavier version of my travel trailer. The utility trailer and the boat only go on short trips
I'd grab a heavily discounted lightening now and wait 3-4 years for Tesla to iron out all the kinks in the CT.
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You're not entirely wrong. I'm still hopeful for the Tesla 2 to ever come out, but meanwhile I bought a JAC E10X last year. People should buy the vehicle they need when they need it, and I was holding out but my clunker expired on me and I couldn't wait any longer. And now I need my JAC to expire before I get a Model 2, probably next decade (the JAC has a LFP battery, so degradation should take a while).
Besides, due to the exterior panels of the Cybertruck being an origami nightmare rather than a 10 second date with a stamping machine, it will take years before production ramps up. That should be more than enough time for common problems on the production version to get ironed out.
Drag coefficient for the F150 Lightning is 0.44 and the Rivian is 0.3 which is quite impressive. The Cyber truck is 0.335 which is still amazing
Question is did they maxed the room for cells in the truck or still room for 170kwh? 170kwh is what I was expecting for tri motor!
I was disappointed at first when i saw that the range was going to be 340 miles on the dual motor which i have reservation for. However, my current Tundra is only 317 miles on GOOD gas and barely 290 miles on E85 which i drive 95% of the time. The Tesla Superchargers are going to save us on long towing trips even WITHOUT the range extender battery pack. I can build my own 30kwh pack for about $10k. The range extender pack is about $16k plus labor to put in back of CyberTruck bed.
It going to be good to see 250kw charging, let's hope those 4680 take it for a long time
8:56 That doesn't look like a lot of deformation, so that means most of the force is going to be going to the passengers instead of deforming the car. A car that doesn't break much in these kind of impacts is bad news for the passengers.
So basically if you don't really need a Truck, it's for you. As long as it never burns like a Roman Candle, it should be fun.
So to recap, the Cybertruck is for everyone except for those that actually need a truck, for daily trucking…
Not for people concerned with safety or who live in cities.
I don't know if you mentioned it, but this is the first Tesla using the 4680 battery. A lot of the technology developed for the CyberTruck is going to be used in the next model, like the steer by wire, 800 volt architecture, and 48 volt low power architecture.
Some Model Y's have 4680 but some of the 4680 features at battery day are not implemented yet like Si in the cathode which improves the energy density. Thats going to be needed for a true 500 mile CT
I have a 2023 Texas Y with 4680 batteries.
Using 2nd gen cybercell yes, first gen 4680s have been in teratx built model Y sr since April 2022. 👍🏻
I think the 48V architecture is the most important advance of the CyberTruck, it's starting a standard that all other brands will adopt and Tesla will be the only initial source in the supply chain. No one else has dared to be the first. Every time Tesla struggles to achieve something like 4680, initial Model 3 manufacturing problems, reusable rockets exploding, FSD etc, I know they're on track to something great. When Elon said "We dug our own grave with the Cybertruck" I was happy to hear, for me it basically meant they're digging yet another moat.
No its not
Thanks for what you do. I was at the delivery event and continue to be excited about the vehicle. I think history will draw a line before and after the CT. It’s not about specs, price or range. It’s about the future or the past. Can’t wait to get mine!
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I'm honestly not sure if you are being sarcastic or not.
I'll give you the benefit of a doubt and assume sarcasm.
It's a big, overly heavy, ridiculously non aerodyamic EV pick up truck that looks like what we thought looked futuristic when Musk himself was a child, which is how you know he mandated its ridiculous design.
A willfully non aerodynamic design in an EV is just the epitome of stupid.
Dodge built the Viper and the Prowler 30 years, so dont say radical concept vehicles have never came to life before.
It would be great to see that range extender on a short term lease or rental program for road trips.
unfortunately the installation time and effort is probably going to be too high to make this practical. In addition to the weight we have to consider the voltage that's going to be traveling through this thing. It's going to be a near permanently mounted fixture that is hard wired in, not a modular component that a user is likely able to work with.
This will be a bodyshop repair nightmare. You better hope you never get in a collision or it's likely the truck will just be totaled. I don't know why electric car companies keep doing this it is just going to jack up insurance premiums.
There is a reason literally no one uses stainless steel. It's extremely impractical and unsafe.
Not sure about drive by wire. I have trust issues. I'd like to know more about the backups and failsafes in that system
Toyota has this already. No worries.
Planes have wire and they are safer than driving.
Hopefully dual/redundant Ethernet, running down each side of the body.
They should really do something about hiding that god- awful windshield wiper. Maybe they could create some kind of a high pressure air system that blows the water off from the side frames. Or a device that pops out automatically with that big ass window wiper but then disappears after the rain stops.
Thanks Ricky for the informative video. I have a reservation and intend to keep it. The range is less than I wanted, but otherwise the Cybertruck lived up to or exceeded my expectations. I agree with your point that it will cater for 95% of my use cases. I want to know more about the range extender for when I go on long road trips to the backcountry. Honestly, a gas generator might be my range extender.
Do you have the new $1000 reservation, or the old $100 reservation? if you have the latter you're screwed.
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@@fromhimarswithlove It's not a car, it's a truck! Smh.
You’re right, I’m so sorry for that typo! I was slightly provoked by his one-sided storytelling, having always liked the until the price shot up, the launch delays started coming and I looked up everything I could find about the CyberTRUCK.. I can see you have done the same, because you really did a great job deconstructing everything about my argument with that post👏👏 This totally makes everything written and documented about this completely irrelevant, so just ignore my warning. YOU should definitely buy the priciest version…
PS; What’s your take on the new (and very promising) 1st generation lithium sulfur batteries? There aren’t any concerns or complications whatsoever, right? And it’s extra reassuring to know that it’s Elon Musk running the show, having left no doubt that he is a once in forever kind of genius.. especially through his public behavior lately, proving that he never lies or does anything wrong😆
smh u 🤡
@@fromhimarswithlove Your post was silly. Elon has made it this far doing things like he does and the Cybertruck will be no different. He starts out selling the expensive model then when he can't sell those high profit models he'll go to the cheaper versions. He knows what he's doing.
He's not trying to sell to cheapskates like you, that's a losing proposition, he's marketing to all those folks that have gotten rich from their TSLA stock and all the other rich folk out there with more money than to know what to do with and want a new toy.
Just asking - Isn’t LG Energy Solution the manufacturer of the batteries that have been having all the recalls?
Hey Ricky, good breakdown of the CT, yes I have an order in from Aus and don't expect to see it for a number of years and as long as $TSLA at least doubles in this time I will take the Beast, having said that the dual motor version has been seriously stepped up to match trimotor in almost every spec except acceleration. 2 Questions-1 no mention of water tight boat mode for deep water crossings, 2. There is no Air outlet for pneumatic tools. And no mention on either of those questions. I can understand lrg air compressor takes up space, but the boat mode needs discussion for those people who may choose to do deep water crossings and find out the hard way.
Yeah, I'm thinking that the variable turning ratio might not be such a good thing if you are performing evasive maneuvers when trying to avoid a collision; which I find myself required to do basically any time I travel to San Antonio, southbound on 281 or on their highway merges into the left lane, especially during a rain shower.
So, how often do you have to perform these "evasive highway maneuvers"?
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He just said he does it when he travels to San Antonio.
What next?
Do you want to be even more intrusive and ask him how often he travels to San Antonio, and why?!
I would buy one. But it won't be allowed here in the EU. This car will kill people when crushing with smaller cars.
And pedestrian safety requirements will keep it out.
Thank you so much for the best and smartest Cybertruck information! I see beat up trucks used for actual work and the rest are owned by people that flip out if their $100,000 US dollar truck gets scratched at all, so off roading to them is driving to the cabin in Tahoe or Aspen on the weekends.
Yes. I need this truck for where i live and how i live. I placed my order over a year ago and am not in a rush.
I can't imagine any reason someone would "need" a cybertruck.
SAW ONE PARKED on the street on Nob Hill (SF) last night - what a sight!!!
A wankpanzer, how embarassing.
Thx for sharing. For one,I love the Cybertruck and it is awesome that @Tesla has created a halo vehicle that will (if @Elon haven't yet) propel it into the limelight. It is of course now the time for tesla to double down and create that revenue earning 'model 2' and use some of the new tech like 48V architecture on that.
I watched all the reviews and this one may be the best one out there. I was disappointed with the price and range. I would have loved to have seen a dual motor 500 mile truck for $57,500. That being said I liked your realism for why that is not possible right now. Also liked how you differentiated groups that would be interested in buying one, it was an interesting take I have not heard from others. Nice Job....
The hagerty vid has a lot of info this kne doesn’t have if you want more
can you imagine what the insurance premiums will be? very expensive to fix i predict.
@@bobhancox3660 Tesla is probably the only company where it's even somewhat affordable.
I think the CT is amazing - true innovation.
One problem for offroading is the weight - a very heavy truck is more likely to get stuck in the mud ...
You forgot one *major* advantage: nobody will steal your catalytic converter.
Great Video. Thank you for putting out the towing and off roading percentages. None of the other UA-camrs are even considering how many people don't use their trucks for anything other than transport. Bravo - I just subscribed to your channel.
thats is actually terrible because in a world where we are trying to use our ressources more efficiently and more renewables people continues with the stupid mentality of buying big cars to not use to their full potential! there are 30 years old+ trucks out there that works super hard in third world countries to move people and goods daily on very harsch environments while beeing overloaded to the max.
I am so stoked about all the functionality of the car. Drive-by-wire, all the general tech., tech. with driving what comes to variable traction/ etc. etc. What I've read it truly has great technology.
CT is coming to Europe but I fear what the pricing will be here.
How can it pass the pedestrian safety tests for Europe?
I don’t think it was designed for EU requirements in mind. IIRC, it was designed for the North American car market. Maybe, some modifications could be integrated for the CT to pass EU testing? I don’t know the future plans of Tesla in EU.
Tesla never said CT was coming to Europe. Where did you get that?
@@lulumink0 It is just general knowledge. Based on the treaties between our blocks (EU and the US) all products outside agriculture are free to be sold here in Europe.
CyberTruck, as a product, will have some European particulars. For example in Finland and in various EU conutries you might need a driving license that includes you to have 'truck driving knowledge'. Also the truck might have to have a mark in the license plate.
Otherwise there is no reason why it can't be sold here. It might come later to the market here in Europe, though, if it can't be manufactured fast enough.
But as the steel alloy/plating is manufactured here in Finland, I have a feeling it's coming to Europe relatively fast.
I agree, chances of Europe sales are very small. @@lulumink0
You are so RIGHT about empty pickup trucks !
Unfortunately not for us. We tow fairly frequently, at least twice a month. We live in a rural area and the places we camp tend to be rural. Range and lack of infrastructure would be a huge issue. Getting stranded in the salt flats between mountain ranges is not my idea of a good time.
Also, i see a lot of Jeeps when camping because they're one of the best options for flat towing behind an RV. This truck won't fit that need either.
Great review. I think a lot of complaints about price and range are missing the forest for the trees. The CT is the test bed for a lot of new tech that will trickle down to other products. The price and range will improve quickly with time. I would buy one.
What new tech does the Cybertruck have that doesn't exist elsewhere?
I agree, the vehicle fits most needs. Certainly is the future. My order is probably 1 -3 years down the road. I will wait.
it fits no needs! it fits the needs of utter waste of our ressources! why would you buy a truck if youre not going to use to its full potential!? whats the point! arent we going to renewables and trying to save ressources!
The truck pull result is a bit of a cheat, leveraging the CT's superior acceleration at the start to get the trailer moving for higher initial momentum. The rest of it is usually just traction failing first.
Questions: 1. Where did the tailgate ramp go? 2. Why not put the extended battery in the under bed storage area to keep the bed free? These two options are important features ATV and motorcycle owners would like to know. If you could ask TESLA we might get a more functional truck.
They need a range extending trailer.
Why? If you fill the bed with batteries and pull a trailer of batteries you might as well drive a car because you won't have any room left for anything else.
@@eagle25311 the range extender will weigh about 6-800 lbs. If your primary purpose of needing a range extender was to tow things, having it in the trailer will mean you are only carrying the extender when you need it. A ranger extender trailer could also be a platform for a camping trailing where the battery would have dual purpose (extend the range and/or power the camping). If you used the sled of a Y, you could have an 85kw battery under a trailer with thousands of pounds of capacity.
@@TSLApilot Maybe one day but turbo diesels can go 600 miles before refueling just holding what is in the tanks.
@@eagle25311 …using 10x the energy per mile.
@@TSLApilot Yeah it's going to have to work for now. By the time you have a range extender in the bed and the spare tire in the bed there's no more room left for stuff. When I go on hunting trips the spare tire is under the truck bed and no battery taking up space in the back so I can fit my things. Maybe one day the electric truck could work for me but not yet.
It will be fun seeing a Cybertruck rolling off the Starship elevator onto the surface of the Moon or Mars someday.
Dumb use for Cybertruck . The moon particularly would shred that thing, I suggest you google how bad moon dust is.
@@remliqa Yup. Know what you mean about that regolith and all sorts of joint surfaces, bearings, etc. Point is, he said it's "planet ready" as if a Cybertruck might be able to roll across the Martian surface tomorrow. Could be very briefly hilarious, could be a much more durable stunning surprise. Fascinating to see it happen, and I can SO imagine Elon doing it. It would be worth the investment, just for marketing and advertising images.
Thank Ricki a Great video 👏🏻
1:24 tennis ball. 😂 😂 😂