stop saying bullet proof, tesla never said bullet proof for the glass. They just said it would be "armor glass" that they use on semi. The bullet proof was for the steel.
rifle and supersonic handgun rounds will go through, the limit is sub-sonic, that it is still a step up from the 26 gauge mild steel skin or plastic of most vehicles
mistakes in Cybertruck that will render it useless for zombie apocalypses or chaos/war: 1. Acceleration 2.6s to 60mph = there is no tire on planet that can last more than 10k mi. on vehicle with that acceleration which is COSTLY. RWD has 6.5s but then locking differentials are useless when there is nothing to lock but rear wheels, and 17” ground clearance is absolutely POINTLESS because no RWD vehicle will EVER attempt off-roading! 2. No door handles = cannot be opened from outside in strong wind when wind is blowing from the front or the door side, odds are roughly 50% if u park vehicle at random angle to wind. 3. Electric sensor for opening door = cannot be opened in case of electric malfunction or battery depletion while any gas truck can be opened whenever they ran out of gas REMEMBER ITS MEANT TO BE FOR APOCALYPSES WHEN U PUSH THE LIMITS. 4. Standard tires = instead of improving and innovating tires tesla made 3-3.5 ton monster on feet of clay. anyone can stop it by puncturing tires. War in Ukraine shows how even the most luxurious SUV-s have become so vulnerable to tire puncturing due to small pieces of shrapnel on roads. 5. Bulletproof body = STUPID IDEA CAUSE TIRES AND GLASS ARE NOT BULLETPROOF! 6. Ethernet wiring = computers control EVERYTHING even STEERING meaning any chip malfunction could kill you, moreover this system cannot be protected from EMP or excessive solar radiation. Stock Toyota 70 for example outperforms this vehicle in all those features that’s why it is the most demanded rugged vehicle on Earth. 7. Great towing capacity: yes towing capacity is great cause the vehicle is overweight and friction induced on tires is way higher than friction on 2.5 ton truck tires: 3.5ton/4=0.875 ton/tire while 2.5ton/4=0.625 ton/tire just like 2x2=4. Not mentioning 4x more probability that it will get stuck in mud than the same size 2.5 ton vehicle. And when fully loaded it weighs 4.5 tons which is INSANELY STUPID for Apocalyptic roads… Not only 0 chance in mud but puncturing probability drastically increases when under 1.15ton pressure. So in rainy apocalyptic day, 0 chance moving unless on well maintained highway…. 8. Steering rectangle instead of wheel = accident guaranteed. 9. Ceiling gear shift = accident guaranteed. 10. Absence of battery heating system = 30-60% cold weather range drop =Gasoline truck-600 miles, Cybertruck-180miles 11. Price = they promised less than 40k for standard vehicle now its over 60k, while 95% of truck prices fall in
Towing with an electric truck is actually fine. It's distance that is the shortcoming. I say this because there is a distinct difference between someone towing a landscape trailer IN-TOWN and towing an RV trailer cross-country. It's important to observe that distinction. For IN-TOWN use, a Lightning or Cybertruck is more than capable of doing everything you'd want to do in a day. I have 2x Lightnings.
People whine about the towing yet 90% of people rarely tow. Its hilarious hearing all the ridiculous expections that is supposed to have AND be affordable and able to be made in high volume.
IDK about this so few people tow statistic, I just got off the road, I'm a CDL truck driver, and now I drive around town all day. and there are tons of people towing, people tow for work, tow landscaping equipment. tow their toys to go have fun every weekend, can this truck actually safely get down a boat launch ramp! some fools get too far into the water! One thing I always hated about seeing so many people towing, there are so many people who don't know HOW to tow!!! when you see a truck going down the Interstate at 70mph hauling it's toy trailer, but the rear is dipped down and sashaying down the Interstate, you have exceeded the tow capacity!!!
Yeah, the Ford lighting doesn't get the advertised mileage while towing a 5500lb toy hauler. The range is bearly 150miles. That's 75mile out & 75mile back. You better hope the lake, offroad site or campground you're headed to has EV charging or bring a gas generator BLABLABLA HAHAHA LMAO 😢😮😅😅😅😂 LOL
Wretched excess for most truck buyers. From $39k to $60k? YO, ELON! How long will it take to charge at home and will it fit in a garage? No mention of the interior? Does it have a driver's screen where every other manufacturer puts it? Does it have convenient buttons and switches like every other truck? Do I really need 15 speakers? Android and Apple car apps? Where will I get it fixed if in an accident and how much will those panels cost?
i have a reservation and will buy the three motor model when it comes up. I'm a contractor and this will be the first electric truck in my fleet of trucks that work 5 days a week.The main feature that I'm excited about is the maintenance or lack thereof. Fleet maintenance is a huge part of owning working trucks. I'm also hoping that it will be able to tow 8 to 10K for 100 + miles. Your presentation is the best I have seen thanks; however like I said the relatively maintence free design of an electric truck is going to be very attractive to fleet owners. Thanks again for the great presentation.
I think that was one of those padded T-ball style baseballs that Hans threw. Lol. But I don't think you'll have to worry about door dings in the parking lot.
Remember the Delorean? Stainless steel body. Car of the future (or maybe back to the future). Where is that now? Is the Cybertruck destined to the same fate?
Saying most people who drive Tacoma’s are “Light Truck buyers who only use their bed to pick up a couch once a year” is an awful generalization and then to follow up my grouping Tacomas with a Honda Ridgeline was a low blow! My 2016 Tacoma is my daily driver and my work truck thats had the bed and back seat loaded with tools and material since the day after I bought it. I also don’t agree with just saying most trucks you see look like they have nothing in them. If you passed me you’d think my bed was empty as well because I keep my tonneau cover closed and my back windows are tinted so I don’t constantly have my truck broken into. I know a large group of people just drive their trucks and never use them but don’t group that with a certain style of truck!
Wouldn't want to be caught in a storm in any EV - especially if the power grid went down and teir backup genearators are not working as they do a lot of times during normal weather... Pull is impressive, but praticality is a BIG short coming
Unfortunately not for us. We tow fairly frequently, at least twice a month. We live in a rural area and the places we camp tend to be rural. Range and lack of infrastructure would be a huge issue. Getting stranded in the salt flats between mountain ranges is not my idea of a good time. Also, i see a lot of Jeeps when camping because they're one of the best options for flat towing behind an RV. This truck won't fit that need either.
I love it. I want it. It’s perfect for hauling plants home from the nursery, my bike and my dog. Plus, I live on an island so its maximum range is not an issue. The only question I have is about the voltage tolerance. We have a lot of voltage sags in Hawaii, despite what the utility claims.
That’s a good question for Tesla. So, go get the data that shows all the power sags, fluctuations, and ask them if this unreliability is a problem for charging up. Tesla should have a good answer for you, so you can make the best decision for your situation. What island?
Because of the poor electrical service in Hawaii (I’m on Oahu), I am now using the Ting sensor by Whisker Labs, in addition to a whole home surge protector. The Ting sensor monitors daily average, high and low voltages. There are frequent voltage sags beyond the NEC 5% parameter. Just horrible. So, yes, good idea. I’ll inquire with Tesla about their battery recharging tolerance.
@@temujinkuechle6287 The salesman won’t know but will probably say “yeah, sure it will be alright.” I am an engineer and I think it will be alright, but it may slow the charge rate.
Removing the turn stalks and overhead rear view mirror/screen because...they'll make their safety rating some other way. Don't worry about it, it just a few low speed crashes and money saved for the company, get with the program!
I would keep my reservation for the dual motor. Mine will likely be in early 2025. Yes, I am a part of the 85%. No need for towing other than my bikes in the hitch
The introduction of 48v electrical system, bidirectional charging and steer by wire are massive overlooked innovations. As well as the use of stainless steel as a stressed load bearing element is a first too. I don’t think the price is too bad given the inflation the world is suffering and it’s clear that 4680 cell development and production has not gone as smoothly as expected. However, Tesla won’t stop innovation and iteration and will prevail. They will drive Dow costs as production ramps.
@@TC-zf1ji According to Jason Cammisa's Cybertruck video yesterday on the Hagerty UA-cam channel, "for the very first time ever on a production car, there is no physical connection between the steering wheel and the front wheels". AND "No one has had the balls to put it into production, until now".
@@TC-zf1ji And I suppose you think that planes still have a mechanical connection from the yoke in the cockpit to the control surfaces? Big surprise, they do not. You call the mechanical connection a "feature" I call it a crutch.
So when the electrics die in a solar storm and you're trying to steer it onto a tow truck as you get winched you're stuck with no way to turn the wheels?
Are you seriously asking why Elon Musk lied??? That clown has been lying for the past decade!!! I'm sure it has nothing to do with inflating the stock price and trying to get as many pre-orders as possible...
Honestly, as a lifelong opponent of fossil fuel, I feel like the best "range extender" for any electric truck over the next 10 years until batteries *actually* get here, would be a cleaner gas generator used as the Volt does. Or for the $17,000 they want for the range extender, a trailer base w/batteries and the smallest motor Tesla makes. Tesla could make an entire business just selling mobile battery trailers. Look at Lightship.
A smaller battery with a range extender is the way to go. Reasonably priced PHEV’s would decisively cut liquid carbon fuel usage, far more decisively than very expensive EV’s.
@@temujinkuechle6287 - Inverters mass produced in China are virtually identical to inverter designs from decades ago. Buying something mass produced like batteries, does not improve the technology. Just walk into a dollar store, for unbelievable quantities of other examples.
The truck pull result is a bit of a cheat, leveraging the CT's superior acceleration at the start to get the trailer moving for higher initial momentum. The rest of it is usually just traction failing first.
It is going to be stupid expensive. But no one who is financially frugal is going to buy one of these in the first place. It's purely a vanity Wankpanzer.
Elon to his design team: It doesn't have to look pretty but please make sure it allows me to drive right through a crowd of angry twitter users on the way to the launch facility.
I'm awaiting when the public gets this truck and can do all sorts of tests, I need to see more. Hate the look of it but still curious about it. Thanks for editing down the presentation
I disagree on one point, Ricky. I think this truck could be huge in the commercial blue collar construction and service markets. It checks all the boxes. Why am I certain? Because I was a commercial carpenter, mostly heavy structural concrete projects. This truck is perfect for individuals' ownership AND commercial company fleets. Most people analyzing the markets for this truck are ignoring this factor. Take it to the bank: it may take a little time for adoption in the work place but the CT IS a work truck! And it will prove itself as such in the not too distant future. Elon needs to be ready for the demand!
I agree, it provides quite a bit of capability that saves from having to haul a generator around... some people need to transport ladders, a roof rack is coming. For contractor work within a hundred miles CT will be compelling. It might not fit the long range freelance transporter role too well, maybe with 2 range extenders installed? Might be better to consider semi if thats your thing.
@@bobbybishop5662it absolutely is a work truck. I am looking at getting one for my hobby farm because of its unique features. Stainless steel bed that you can dump gravel straight into and won’t rust out from scratched paint. The shell is thick enough to weld to so if you need mounts for anything you can do that. Other trucks can do this but not with such a big battery, it can power your tools without running a small ICE generator. Seriously, no trade tows long distance. They would lose money if they tried. So what advantage do ICEVs offer to trades vs Cybertruck?
I use it for carry things- several times a week, love the smooth ride in our city with nothing but potholes, and despise going to gas stations. love my Cybertruck!
The range is disappointing, but like you said.. the tech is what it is.. they could wait.. but then it wouldn't be here this soon.. so some concessions had to be made. Also, it now is a real product, and range will improve as the technology improves. I love it though. Kudos to Tesla for delivering. Great video.
@@eal1yep in 2027 they might be something I would consider performance wise. Still hate the tesla interiors though, not enough analog controls. The future is not touch screen only, its a balance of touch screen for rarely used/ unimportant controls and physical switches(buttons, knobs, toggles etc) for most often used and critical controls.
36 gallons at $4 per gallon = $144 to fill up for that ICE truck, same range for the CyberTruck $30, Is the extra 30 minutes you spend filling up with $110 or would you be happy making $220 per hour equivalent. This is a big financial decision for many businesses that will decide which vehicle to buy.
Great video! I was expecting a negative take on things, and was pleasantly surprised at your upbeat take, and especially how you identified various market segments of customers and who this truck would appeal to. Thanks man!!!
@@heinzerbrew He talked about price, range, the range extender, and a bunch of other things. I think he got to the non-regurge at around 11 minutes in. Patience, young padawan.
To my mind, this is an outstanding vehicle. It isn’t perfect but it will improve over time. The technology in this vehicle is next level. There is no competition as yet tech wise. It won’t be used for “work” by most people but it is more than capable for most tradies. It needs to gain a foothold in the market and then once they ramp production the prices will come down. The battery will improve quite quickly if planned dev of the 4680 is implemented . Overall, I love it! The future is here at last.
I can taste the tears already, Tesla will definitely lower the price just like they did with the S and X. Probably 10k less by the end of next year. The current price is probably just enough to break even during the ramp up.
what i don't understand is why would buy this if not for work? but a model S. it drives better, is more comfortable and goes faster. literally makes no sense to buy a pickup truck to use as a regular car.
Ethernet on-board signalling ... so what? I recently paid over $1600 to replace a faulty headlight on my model S. It was an electrical fault, the headlight was physically intact. What would the cost have been if my headlight consisted of a mechanical switch, a copper wire, and a light bulb in front of a reflector?
Great summary Mr Da Vinci. Cybertruck does have pros and cons. One thing I would like to point out is the drag race with the Porsche 911. That seems kind of unfair because it was not really designed for drag racing. But it is great marketing so show it the way they did. The cybertruck may not be for everyone but at least there are more choices now and it will push other companies to innovate more.
I was bound and determined to get the 500 mile range model, because I use my truck mostly for towing my RV, but frankly, I nearly always tow my RV where some form of power is available. With that in mind, the dual motor without the extender will be my choice as I would not want to lose any trunk bed space... I would rather spend 30 minutes or so for one recharge stop. Thanks for the great analysis.
I think I would choose the same. If I owned and operated a small towing company specializing in towing heavy loads long distances all day every day, I would still consider diesel as an option. Or if I was towing often in northern Canada, Sahara or Siberia. It seems like diesel will be for rare edge cases in a few years. (Gasoline will be for collector's cars.) Give that a good decade for most of the vehicles already on the road to be retired. Then everything becomes an expedition, because where are you going to get fuel? Charging will be everywhere, but liquid fuel pumps will not be installed in new locations and many old location will close down.
The issue is you will have to find a place to park and disconnect your camper before charging at a power station. So now it will take much longer than just the 30 minutes for the charging.
@@GravityKillsYou That can be an issue. Tesla (and a few others) are installing some pull-through chargers for this. Gas stations replacing their pumps with chargers is one example. Some inconvenience must be expected along with the obvious awesomeness.
They should really do something about hiding that god- awful windshield wiper. Maybe they could create some kind of a high pressure air system that blows the water off from the side frames. Or a device that pops out automatically with that big ass window wiper but then disappears after the rain stops.
This is never allowed on the road in Europe, due to the sharp corners at the front. Pedestrians or cyclists could be more injured or killed in a collision.
8:56 That doesn't look like a lot of deformation, so that means most of the force is going to be going to the passengers instead of deforming the car. A car that doesn't break much in these kind of impacts is bad news for the passengers.
I have a res too... I'm bummed about the mileage, but will probably keep my reservation also. I wish the extended battery was longer and shallower, or it could of replaced the in bed trunk. I would have preferred that.
This will be a bodyshop repair nightmare. You better hope you never get in a collision or it's likely the truck will just be totaled. I don't know why electric car companies keep doing this it is just going to jack up insurance premiums.
The battery extender belongs IN the Trailer/RV so it can Assist with the pull weight and by putting a Motor on a NoseWheel, the trailer can be moved around (unhitched) and used to power a House/Campsite/Jobsite, while you use CT for something else. Cheers
@@CBR2200 I think there will probably be Chinese knockoffs, hopefully Half the price, by the first quarter 24. So it (the Trailer) could be used wherever it’s needed for power. Imagine being able to pull a Trailer behind a Model 3, the Motorized NoseWheel with Regen Braking, would eliminate most of the effort. Cheers
@@CBR2200 Maybe China will simply Build E-Trailers (or the Sleds at least), because they control most of the Battery market they are cheaper for them to build, in lower quantities - very simple product for a 3rd tier supplier to make. The Idea of a "spare" pack is going to Showcase the Car Conversion, Retro Car, Tractor conversion Kits, etc. Cheers
it belongs to the main flat battery because towing your extra battery will just reduce your capabilities! you can very easily triple the range of your diesel truck which is already excpetional by putting an auxiliary fuel tank under the bed so no space is lost for example.
@@carholic-sz3qv So, you don’t care about using your bed to carry ~ 500 lbs of cargo all day everyday but Only need it when you Tow. When you’re Towing its in the Trailer/RV to be used independently of your Truck. If you have a spare fuel Tank ~ 500 lbs - Same thing. You only add that weight when you’re going to Use it. You should just stick with your Diesel, you apparently have Zero experience with this F-350 Diesel destroyer called CyberTruck. Can your Diesel do Anything the CyberTruck can do with so much more Efficiently - NO it cannot. Superchargers are available in many areas and being added rapidly. Cheers
The range with the gas vs battery comparison was funny to me as that much gas weighs what 125 lbs compared to the batteries 2k lbs. The gas truck also gets lighter as it goes while the electric weighs the same the whole time with battery effeminacy going down with pack voltage. Don’t get me wrong I like electrics for people that want them but you aren’t going to replace working trucks for a lot of years; it’s just impossible to beat the convenience of a say F350/F450, or other manufacturers equivalents, for a utility box towing or hauling 8-10 hours a day as you can refill the gas tank in 5 minutes, or even faster with commercial pumps. I’d be interested in a more normal looking truck, like the F150 Light in gif they could get the prices down to be more realistic; we just bought 2 F350 chassis cabs with utility boxes for $75k a piece when the same trucks were under $50k just a few years back. And these are bare bone work trucks; I’m talking roll up windows and manual locks.
Just to be clear - the original Cybertruck glass was never claimed to be bulletproof. They called it armored glass or something like that, but the bulletproof claim was for the stainless steel body.
At the Cybertruck unveil they described the Tesla armor glass as "transparent metal". Just see a recording of the event.Then they tested with palm-size steel balls.
@@dogbreath6974 Some individuals even question whether it was a genuine baseball because it appeared excessively bouncy upon striking the window. Therefore, it could have been a baseball liner filled with air. It appears they wanted to ensure by all means that the mishap would not happen again. 🙂
I tell you what we really don't need, that is 0 to 60 mph in 2.6 seconds. A lot of vehicles would do that in 8 seconds and be considered adequate. Why do we need 2.6? It's just to show off and say how much better their electric vehicle is. If manufacturers of electric vehicles could end their obsession with showing off and used smaller electric motors and gear boxes, limited the acceleration to around 7 to 8 seconds they could cure the range problem in one swift stroke. That fast acceleration is what uses up the battery power. High acceleration = high current flow.
Don't forget the extra heat involved with pulling extra current from the batteries. There is a reason a Tesla will go into "limp mode" if you try and drive it on a road course.
I have a reservation but about 700k in line. Hopefully they honor the 7k FSD. After the reveal I would likely go for the dual motor over the tri-motor if they allow that change. Primary reason if dual motor will qualify for tax credit, and I think now has more range than tri-motor. Which after they revealed that both have same size battery that isn’t to be unexpected. Wonder if you will go with dual motor as well.
I’m at 344k for Tri-motor and will also do for dual motor. Range is why I opted for Tri. I have a 2018 M3D, when I ordered charging was still sparse and trips could get sketchy. Having 500 range would make any route we looked at possible. Charging is way better now, but range is key. If I can, I will also switch to Dual and hope they honor the FSD price.
Great Video. Thank you for putting out the towing and off roading percentages. None of the other UA-camrs are even considering how many people don't use their trucks for anything other than transport. Bravo - I just subscribed to your channel.
thats is actually terrible because in a world where we are trying to use our ressources more efficiently and more renewables people continues with the stupid mentality of buying big cars to not use to their full potential! there are 30 years old+ trucks out there that works super hard in third world countries to move people and goods daily on very harsch environments while beeing overloaded to the max.
Not only are prices way up...specs are way down. Just some functionality thrown in no-one asked for. And removed basic features no-ones asked them to remove. Lots of broken promises. It's not even an exoskeleton construction, which used to be more or less the whole point of it.
One major reason other pick-up trucks have not changed their construction methods in 70 years is what that market represents to other makers. It is the same body on frame that cars used to be before safety bumper and roll over standards mandated for sedans were legislated. Light trucks were exempted and so were much more profitable to keep making. Selling the American public on pick-ups as a family car substitute by adding a second row of seats became the major advertising the other makers have pushed for decades. This created the market that the Cybertruck now exists to help fulfill.
I wonder why no one ever questioned why it should be legal for personal cars to evade safety regulations if only they are designed in the least sustainable way. Pretty crazy if you ask me.
The Cybertruck is not safe however. There's numerous design flaws that make it ESPECIALLY unsafe for children. Especially if you prefer your children to keep all their fingers. The collision tests also show that it has 4x the impact force of an F150. Tesla won't even release the entirety of the test dummy video because it clearly looks terrible just from what they have shown.
Wanted more range for less money, Unfortunately physics has butted heads with my unreasonable expectations. Want more range, put in the extender. As an engineer, I’m more than happy to accept the compromises and innovations - 48V and ethernet architecture, super strong body & glass, adjustable ground clearance, torque vectoring & 4 wheel steering, 11Kw of off board power, huge trunk with bed liner & cover, crazy acceleration and towing, no paint. Hmmm, maybe not so much compromising after all :-) If you don’t like it, get out of line so I can get mine sooner!! Thanks for the video!
I had every intention of getting mine when my reservation comes up.. but I measured the posted length in my garage.. and I have serious doubt it fit 😕. I kinda need to test drive/rent one and see if it will fit in any way.. my only issue with it
@@Sagarmaatha8848 I'm talking about the low voltage system in cars, the system that runs the lights, electronics and so on, not about the traction battery.
48vdc is about as high as you would want to go for the "low voltage" system for safety. The advantage is that the current for a given load at 48v is much lower than it would be at 12v. That means wires can be thinner/lighter, etc.
@@avsystem3142 48v would be really convenient for the Mild Hybrid cars (EU thing mainly) because the hybrid battery is 48v. On my Hyundai i30 I used to have a 12v system with a 12v battery for the lights and electronics, a 48v battery for the hybrid assistance and a 48v starter generator for normal operation and then a 12v starter for starting the car when the 48v was depleated. Of course, after all that, a turbocharged petrol engine with an electronic clutch for a manual gearbox. So yeah, 48v for ICE cars would be really nice.
I already know that today's EV don't have AM Radios, But what's the RF signature of a TriMotor CyberTruck?! 🤔 And is there a way to make that more quiet?!
My trucks are tools. One plows my road and clears the snow. One hauls all kinds of stuff, and the other gets me around the town and to work when the roads are bad. I like the look of the cybertruck, and it might be a truck to get me around the town and to work. I am still worried about the function in cold weather. Would like to see information on that.
Cold weather lowers EV performance significantly. Why would someone need a car this large to get around town? Wouldn't an AWD gas or hybrid crossover be superior?
Cybertruck is going to be a hard sell for people that want to tow for any distance. I was counting on 400-500 mile range. Primarily because my model 3 long range never got the amount they estimated. At best you get about 2/3 the estimated amount of miles. And so you can imagine what you will actually get if the estimate is 340. And on top of that if you’re towing 10,000 pounds you will be lucky to get 130 miles. And I can’t imagine charging with a trailer on an 6 hour treck into remotes parts of the country for hunting. Overall it’s sad because other than the jacked up prices it sounds like an incredible truck. They should have made the range extender 4 by 6 so it would lay flat in the bed and you could still carry plywood. Poor design on the range extender
@@dannydaw59 sure. But the comparison definitely favors a regular truck as of now. F150 hold 23 gallons and gets 24 mpg on highway. This gives you a range of 552 miles. No more needs to be said, but pulling my flat bed with a mule and some other supplies I used to get 15 mpg. So my range pulling a trailer was 345. And when I stop I don’t have to disconnect my trailer to charge. I just pull up and refuel and in 7-8 minutes I’m back on the road. Again Teslas estimated range are terribly on the high side. At least it’s been the case in my model 3. I therefore expect the same on Teslas other vehicles. So I strongly doubt the cybertruck will get 340. I suspect it will likely be around 300. Then when you tow it will probably be 100-150 miles per charge. I hope it’s better but doubtful. Now my hope is the improve the range over time. I love my model 3. And I wanted the truck too. The problem with towing with an electric vehicle isn’t how much weight, it’s how much range
Lots of things to like. But I don’t see this truck replacing the off-road trucks like the Tacoma, and Gladiator. Not enough articulation for getting over rocks, let alone the lack of charging ability out on the trail.
The combination of the super car level body stiffness, steering by wire, rear wheel steering and computer control suspension make this thing drive like a sport car. The ideas of a separate range extender is brilliant if it can be remove and use as home power wall and hook it back into the truck for long trips
No vehicle that weighs as much as this thing does handles like a sports car. It might handle good for a wanna be truck but it doesn't handle like a sports car , not a true sports car anyway. Take it to the track with that 911 see how many times the 911 laps you in an hour of track time.
it fits no needs! it fits the needs of utter waste of our ressources! why would you buy a truck if youre not going to use to its full potential!? whats the point! arent we going to renewables and trying to save ressources!
In my nearly 25 years in corporate engineering I can tell you that actual innovation is inversely proportional to how much management talks about innovation. Large bloated corporations are intrinsically low innovation due to the inertia of all the moving parts and the fear of looking bad from a failure causing career damage. I hope Tesla does not fall into that trap.
Thanks for what you do. I was at the delivery event and continue to be excited about the vehicle. I think history will draw a line before and after the CT. It’s not about specs, price or range. It’s about the future or the past. Can’t wait to get mine!
I'm honestly not sure if you are being sarcastic or not. I'll give you the benefit of a doubt and assume sarcasm. It's a big, overly heavy, ridiculously non aerodyamic EV pick up truck that looks like what we thought looked futuristic when Musk himself was a child, which is how you know he mandated its ridiculous design. A willfully non aerodynamic design in an EV is just the epitome of stupid.
I would buy the dual motor version if I could afford it. As the 4680 chemistry improves (v3 maybe), hopefully they'll increase more power into the main battery pack footprint. Powering my house with the truck in an emergency would be amazing and put my mind at ease for situations like this.
Powering your house in an emergency? Why not just buy a domestic power battery pack instead? It's not a given that you need a solar panel installation to get a domestic battery pack.
@@gonzos-twin "Once they add graphene, range will increase" Graphene is not magic. You don't just "add" it to a battery cell, it has to be specifically engineered into the electrodes
If I want to go off road camping. I will be in a truck with 500 mile range. Who cares about if it’s electric or steam powered. Making excuses for this city truck is transparent. It sounds like an excuse. Telling someone that most people don’t tow very often with their truck so a trucks that sucks at towing is ok - is an excuse. I bought a truck for the utility. For the possibility of utility. I’m a Tesla Owner and a TSLA owner. I recently found out how difficult it is even to attempt to drive through monument Valley Utah in a Tesla model Y was just over 300 mile range. The Tesla was rented and was a year old so of course it had the 10% battery degradation that you got after owning a Tesla for a very short time. (my model Y performance had 10% reduction in just five months.) I wanted to see monument valley but could not as I didn’t have a ccs adapter for third party adapter. Imagine charging 123kw on a 6.8kw charger. ‘Bottom line is, the truck they promised would have been promising. I think their new cell doesn’t deliver either. Also they promised 620 miles of range with the new vapor roadster. Tell me how likely is that?
Why? If you fill the bed with batteries and pull a trailer of batteries you might as well drive a car because you won't have any room left for anything else.
@@eagle25311 the range extender will weigh about 6-800 lbs. If your primary purpose of needing a range extender was to tow things, having it in the trailer will mean you are only carrying the extender when you need it. A ranger extender trailer could also be a platform for a camping trailing where the battery would have dual purpose (extend the range and/or power the camping). If you used the sled of a Y, you could have an 85kw battery under a trailer with thousands of pounds of capacity.
@@TSLApilot Yeah it's going to have to work for now. By the time you have a range extender in the bed and the spare tire in the bed there's no more room left for stuff. When I go on hunting trips the spare tire is under the truck bed and no battery taking up space in the back so I can fit my things. Maybe one day the electric truck could work for me but not yet.
Thx for sharing. For one,I love the Cybertruck and it is awesome that @Tesla has created a halo vehicle that will (if @Elon haven't yet) propel it into the limelight. It is of course now the time for tesla to double down and create that revenue earning 'model 2' and use some of the new tech like 48V architecture on that.
I dont get why he keeps steering the conversation only to the Ford F-150 Raptor when it comes to things like range and drag coefficient. Rivian is the truck to beat here- and in a few ways cybertruck beats it. But a balanced discussion would lay out how a Rivian R1Tdual motor Max Pack the has space to store the full spare and is rated to drive 410 miles on a charge. It also has 11,000 lbs towing capacity. That’s CLEARY the competition here- and CT has more bed space and more stiffness, locking differentials, and does it all with 2-3 motors instead of 4. Feels like a GLARING omission from the discussion.
The video goes onto mention off-roaders and it cited Jeeps (fine), Raptor (OK), and then the FJ Cruiser (not even being built anymore) but somehow NOT the purpose built EV off-roader vehicles from Rivian that are priced exactly in-line with Cybertruck. He even mentions the fact that the Cybertruck is flat on the bottom so it can have real clearance… which is a hallmark of the competition. This omission of Rivian during these parts of the video is bizarre. It’s like the video doesnt acknowledge the existence of the MT Truck of the year 2021. I just dont get it.
I was disappointed at first when i saw that the range was going to be 340 miles on the dual motor which i have reservation for. However, my current Tundra is only 317 miles on GOOD gas and barely 290 miles on E85 which i drive 95% of the time. The Tesla Superchargers are going to save us on long towing trips even WITHOUT the range extender battery pack. I can build my own 30kwh pack for about $10k. The range extender pack is about $16k plus labor to put in back of CyberTruck bed.
Canceled mine. Lots of things to like but at the same time a few things I didn't. Bumping the price so much more than promised was a starter, and back seat Interior space is cramped compared to my crew cab. Then the reduce range killed it for me, my crew cab gets me 400-440 miles on 26 gallons. Now the Ram Charger is scheduled to be released before my pre order CT can get to me and the RC has up to 690 miles on a 26 gallon tank. Will reconsider the cybertruck when it gets more appealing.
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stop saying bullet proof, tesla never said bullet proof for the glass. They just said it would be "armor glass" that they use on semi. The bullet proof was for the steel.
rifle and supersonic handgun rounds will go through, the limit is sub-sonic, that it is still a step up from the 26 gauge mild steel skin or plastic of most vehicles
mistakes in Cybertruck that will render it useless for zombie apocalypses or chaos/war:
1. Acceleration 2.6s to 60mph = there is no tire on planet that can last more than 10k mi. on vehicle with that acceleration which is COSTLY. RWD has 6.5s but then locking differentials are useless when there is nothing to lock but rear wheels, and 17” ground clearance is absolutely POINTLESS because no RWD vehicle will EVER attempt off-roading!
2. No door handles = cannot be opened from outside in strong wind when wind is blowing from the front or the door side, odds are roughly 50% if u park vehicle at random angle to wind.
3. Electric sensor for opening door = cannot be opened in case of electric malfunction or battery depletion while any gas truck can be opened whenever they ran out of gas REMEMBER ITS MEANT TO BE FOR APOCALYPSES WHEN U PUSH THE LIMITS.
4. Standard tires = instead of improving and innovating tires tesla made 3-3.5 ton monster on feet of clay. anyone can stop it by puncturing tires. War in Ukraine shows how even the most luxurious SUV-s have become so vulnerable to tire puncturing due to small pieces of shrapnel on roads.
5. Bulletproof body = STUPID IDEA CAUSE TIRES AND GLASS ARE NOT BULLETPROOF!
6. Ethernet wiring = computers control EVERYTHING even STEERING meaning any chip malfunction could kill you, moreover this system cannot be protected from EMP or excessive solar radiation. Stock Toyota 70 for example outperforms this vehicle in all those features that’s why it is the most demanded rugged vehicle on Earth.
7. Great towing capacity: yes towing capacity is great cause the vehicle is overweight and friction induced on tires is way higher than friction on 2.5 ton truck tires: 3.5ton/4=0.875 ton/tire while 2.5ton/4=0.625 ton/tire just like 2x2=4. Not mentioning 4x more probability that it will get stuck in mud than the same size 2.5 ton vehicle. And when fully loaded it weighs 4.5 tons which is INSANELY STUPID for Apocalyptic roads… Not only 0 chance in mud but puncturing probability drastically increases when under 1.15ton pressure. So in rainy apocalyptic day, 0 chance moving unless on well maintained highway….
8. Steering rectangle instead of wheel = accident guaranteed.
9. Ceiling gear shift = accident guaranteed.
10. Absence of battery heating system = 30-60% cold weather range drop =Gasoline truck-600 miles, Cybertruck-180miles
11. Price = they promised less than 40k for standard vehicle now its over 60k, while 95% of truck prices fall in
WOW what a tesla simp
Just wait until the "Influencers" get it. It will be the iPhone of the car industry
Thanks!
$60000 just to carry some plywood ... expansive plywood ... In China I saw guys carrying about 250kg on bicycles and 450kg on tricycles.
Towing with an electric truck is actually fine. It's distance that is the shortcoming. I say this because there is a distinct difference between someone towing a landscape trailer IN-TOWN and towing an RV trailer cross-country. It's important to observe that distinction. For IN-TOWN use, a Lightning or Cybertruck is more than capable of doing everything you'd want to do in a day. I have 2x Lightnings.
People whine about the towing yet 90% of people rarely tow. Its hilarious hearing all the ridiculous expections that is supposed to have AND be affordable and able to be made in high volume.
That's what she said
IDK about this so few people tow statistic, I just got off the road, I'm a CDL truck driver, and now I drive around town all day. and there are tons of people towing, people tow for work, tow landscaping equipment. tow their toys to go have fun every weekend, can this truck actually safely get down a boat launch ramp! some fools get too far into the water!
One thing I always hated about seeing so many people towing, there are so many people who don't know HOW to tow!!! when you see a truck going down the Interstate at 70mph hauling it's toy trailer, but the rear is dipped down and sashaying down the Interstate, you have exceeded the tow capacity!!!
Yeah, the Ford lighting doesn't get the advertised mileage while towing a 5500lb toy hauler. The range is bearly 150miles. That's 75mile out & 75mile back. You better hope the lake, offroad site or campground you're headed to has EV charging or bring a gas generator BLABLABLA HAHAHA LMAO 😢😮😅😅😅😂 LOL
@@davel696969 but it sure does sound sweet as hell without a set of speakers to pretend with
Wretched excess for most truck buyers. From $39k to $60k? YO, ELON! How long will it take to charge at home and will it fit in a garage? No mention of the interior? Does it have a driver's screen where every other manufacturer puts it? Does it have convenient buttons and switches like every other truck? Do I really need 15 speakers? Android and Apple car apps? Where will I get it fixed if in an accident and how much will those panels cost?
One thing we didn't learn from this video: what tesla ISN'T saying
i have a reservation and will buy the three motor model when it comes up. I'm a contractor and this will be the first electric truck in my fleet of trucks that work 5 days a week.The main feature that I'm excited about is the maintenance or lack thereof. Fleet maintenance is a huge part of owning working trucks. I'm also hoping that it will be able to tow 8 to 10K for 100 + miles.
Your presentation is the best I have seen thanks; however like I said the relatively maintence free design of an electric truck is going to be very attractive to fleet owners. Thanks again for the great presentation.
You'll be waiting 3-6 years likely.
Dodge built the Viper and the Prowler 30 years, so dont say radical concept vehicles have never came to life before.
EVERY Cybertruck comes with a FREE Clown Suit
And a box of N95 masks, the hipsters love them.
the problem not discussed anywhere is the cost of collision repair / insurance ...
Also the safety issues.... This car is unsafe for the people in it and the people outside of it.
Ricky I forgot to tell you I love the new format of your show and the great knowledge which comes from your various avenues
Wow, thanks Benjamin, really appreciate you!
I think that was one of those padded T-ball style baseballs that Hans threw. Lol. But I don't think you'll have to worry about door dings in the parking lot.
Remember the Delorean? Stainless steel body. Car of the future (or maybe back to the future). Where is that now? Is the Cybertruck destined to the same fate?
Delorean was a complicated car design, and there were many other issues that crushed it.
Saying most people who drive Tacoma’s are “Light Truck buyers who only use their bed to pick up a couch once a year” is an awful generalization and then to follow up my grouping Tacomas with a Honda Ridgeline was a low blow! My 2016 Tacoma is my daily driver and my work truck thats had the bed and back seat loaded with tools and material since the day after I bought it. I also don’t agree with just saying most trucks you see look like they have nothing in them. If you passed me you’d think my bed was empty as well because I keep my tonneau cover closed and my back windows are tinted so I don’t constantly have my truck broken into. I know a large group of people just drive their trucks and never use them but don’t group that with a certain style of truck!
well I had always wondered what a Pontiac Aztec truck would look like.
So true
So basically if you don't really need a Truck, it's for you. As long as it never burns like a Roman Candle, it should be fun.
I wish they made a Cybervan. That would be a lot more useful.
they will eventualy, but the dictate rollout of tech starts with luxury early adopter vehicles🤔
To go with the cyber stroller, cyber pup, and an AI family.😂😂
Cyber SUV? Yeah you can almost bet on it based on the pickup design
That MUST be in long term plans for Tesla?
I don’t know about more useful, but certainly uniquely useful.
Wouldn't want to be caught in a storm in any EV - especially if the power grid went down and teir backup genearators are not working as they do a lot of times during normal weather... Pull is impressive, but praticality is a BIG short coming
Yes. waiting for mine. I will be lucky to get in one one year.
Probably the reason they go on this ad spree
Unfortunately not for us. We tow fairly frequently, at least twice a month. We live in a rural area and the places we camp tend to be rural. Range and lack of infrastructure would be a huge issue. Getting stranded in the salt flats between mountain ranges is not my idea of a good time.
Also, i see a lot of Jeeps when camping because they're one of the best options for flat towing behind an RV. This truck won't fit that need either.
I love it. I want it. It’s perfect for hauling plants home from the nursery, my bike and my dog. Plus, I live on an island so its maximum range is not an issue. The only question I have is about the voltage tolerance. We have a lot of voltage sags in Hawaii, despite what the utility claims.
That’s a good question for Tesla. So, go get the data that shows all the power sags, fluctuations, and ask them if this unreliability is a problem for charging up. Tesla should have a good answer for you, so you can make the best decision for your situation. What island?
Because of the poor electrical service in Hawaii (I’m on Oahu), I am now using the Ting sensor by Whisker Labs, in addition to a whole home surge protector. The Ting sensor monitors daily average, high and low voltages. There are frequent voltage sags beyond the NEC 5% parameter. Just horrible. So, yes, good idea. I’ll inquire with Tesla about their battery recharging tolerance.
Damn your living the dream!
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The salesman won’t know but will probably say “yeah, sure it will be alright.” I am an engineer and I think it will be alright, but it may slow the charge rate.
Is your island wet? It won't do well with that...
Removing the turn stalks and overhead rear view mirror/screen because...they'll make their safety rating some other way. Don't worry about it, it just a few low speed crashes and money saved for the company, get with the program!
The Haggerty video is pretty cool.
And k owing someone who just drove one, it's everything you could expect from Elon
What about the active noise cancellation designed into the Cybertruck?
Cars were not always 12 volt. They were 6 volt until 1956.
Some were even positive ground, vs the standard negative ground now used.
there is 24v version too
I would keep my reservation for the dual motor. Mine will likely be in early 2025. Yes, I am a part of the 85%. No need for towing other than my bikes in the hitch
The introduction of 48v electrical system, bidirectional charging and steer by wire are massive overlooked innovations. As well as the use of stainless steel as a stressed load bearing element is a first too. I don’t think the price is too bad given the inflation the world is suffering and it’s clear that 4680 cell development and production has not gone as smoothly as expected. However, Tesla won’t stop innovation and iteration and will prevail. They will drive Dow costs as production ramps.
It doesnt have bidirectional charging
@@TC-zf1ji According to Jason Cammisa's Cybertruck video yesterday on the Hagerty UA-cam channel, "for the very first time ever on a production car, there is no physical connection between the steering wheel and the front wheels". AND "No one has had the balls to put it into production, until now".
@@TC-zf1ji They did not cut out safety, it has two independent 5 Hp motors to run the rack with back up power supply.
@@TC-zf1ji And I suppose you think that planes still have a mechanical connection from the yoke in the cockpit to the control surfaces? Big surprise, they do not. You call the mechanical connection a "feature" I call it a crutch.
So when the electrics die in a solar storm and you're trying to steer it onto a tow truck as you get winched you're stuck with no way to turn the wheels?
If Tesla can't do a 500 mile range now, why was it promised four years ago?
Are you seriously asking why Elon Musk lied??? That clown has been lying for the past decade!!! I'm sure it has nothing to do with inflating the stock price and trying to get as many pre-orders as possible...
Honestly, as a lifelong opponent of fossil fuel, I feel like the best "range extender" for any electric truck over the next 10 years until batteries *actually* get here, would be a cleaner gas generator used as the Volt does. Or for the $17,000 they want for the range extender, a trailer base w/batteries and the smallest motor Tesla makes. Tesla could make an entire business just selling mobile battery trailers. Look at Lightship.
A smaller battery with a range extender is the way to go.
Reasonably priced PHEV’s would decisively cut liquid carbon fuel usage, far more decisively than very expensive EV’s.
The more battery electric vehicles purchased the better battery technology becomes.
@@temujinkuechle6287 - Inverters mass produced in China are virtually identical to inverter designs from decades ago. Buying something mass produced like batteries, does not improve the technology. Just walk into a dollar store, for unbelievable quantities of other examples.
The truck pull result is a bit of a cheat, leveraging the CT's superior acceleration at the start to get the trailer moving for higher initial momentum. The rest of it is usually just traction failing first.
Just wondering how the insurance cost might compare to other EV or ICE trucks.
A dent from a fender-bender??? 😮
OMG - expensive…
Really high insurance.
People who drop $100k on a car shouldn’t care about insurance, anyway.
It is going to be stupid expensive. But no one who is financially frugal is going to buy one of these in the first place. It's purely a vanity Wankpanzer.
Elon to his design team: It doesn't have to look pretty but please make sure it allows me to drive right through a crowd of angry twitter users on the way to the launch facility.
I'm awaiting when the public gets this truck and can do all sorts of tests, I need to see more. Hate the look of it but still curious about it. Thanks for editing down the presentation
I was not sure about its looks 4 years ago, now I fully love how it looks, its grown on me
What's the charging time on that monster battery pack?
I disagree on one point, Ricky. I think this truck could be huge in the commercial blue collar construction and service markets. It checks all the boxes. Why am I certain? Because I was a commercial carpenter, mostly heavy structural concrete projects. This truck is perfect for individuals' ownership AND commercial company fleets. Most people analyzing the markets for this truck are ignoring this factor.
Take it to the bank: it may take a little time for adoption in the work place but the CT IS a work truck! And it will prove itself as such in the not too distant future. Elon needs to be ready for the demand!
🙄 ah no.
I agree, it provides quite a bit of capability that saves from having to haul a generator around... some people need to transport ladders, a roof rack is coming.
For contractor work within a hundred miles CT will be compelling.
It might not fit the long range freelance transporter role too well, maybe with 2 range extenders installed? Might be better to consider semi if thats your thing.
Is that you Elton?
@@bobbybishop5662it absolutely is a work truck. I am looking at getting one for my hobby farm because of its unique features. Stainless steel bed that you can dump gravel straight into and won’t rust out from scratched paint. The shell is thick enough to weld to so if you need mounts for anything you can do that.
Other trucks can do this but not with such a big battery, it can power your tools without running a small ICE generator.
Seriously, no trade tows long distance. They would lose money if they tried.
So what advantage do ICEVs offer to trades vs Cybertruck?
@@williammeek4078 Hobby farm 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣 that's hilarious.
I use it for carry things- several times a week, love the smooth ride in our city with nothing but potholes, and despise going to gas stations. love my Cybertruck!
The range is disappointing, but like you said.. the tech is what it is.. they could wait.. but then it wouldn't be here this soon.. so some concessions had to be made. Also, it now is a real product, and range will improve as the technology improves. I love it though. Kudos to Tesla for delivering. Great video.
4 years...
@@eal1yep in 2027 they might be something I would consider performance wise. Still hate the tesla interiors though, not enough analog controls. The future is not touch screen only, its a balance of touch screen for rarely used/ unimportant controls and physical switches(buttons, knobs, toggles etc) for most often used and critical controls.
36 gallons at $4 per gallon = $144 to fill up for that ICE truck, same range for the CyberTruck $30, Is the extra 30 minutes you spend filling up with $110 or would you be happy making $220 per hour equivalent.
This is a big financial decision for many businesses that will decide which vehicle to buy.
Great video! I was expecting a negative take on things, and was pleasantly surprised at your upbeat take, and especially how you identified various market segments of customers and who this truck would appeal to. Thanks man!!!
What are the things Tesla isn't saying? I am 9 minutes in and he has only regurgitated what Tesla is saying. Or is this a clickbait title?
@@heinzerbrew He talked about price, range, the range extender, and a bunch of other things. I think he got to the non-regurge at around 11 minutes in. Patience, young padawan.
Upbeat?
That sounds like another way of saying that they plastered a smile on to get that sweet cheque in the mail 😂
So to recap, the Cybertruck is for everyone except for those that actually need a truck, for daily trucking…
Not for people concerned with safety or who live in cities.
To my mind, this is an outstanding vehicle. It isn’t perfect but it will improve over time. The technology in this vehicle is next level. There is no competition as yet tech wise. It won’t be used for “work” by most people but it is more than capable for most tradies. It needs to gain a foothold in the market and then once they ramp production the prices will come down. The battery will improve quite quickly if planned dev of the 4680 is implemented . Overall, I love it! The future is here at last.
I can taste the tears already, Tesla will definitely lower the price just like they did with the S and X. Probably 10k less by the end of next year. The current price is probably just enough to break even during the ramp up.
what i don't understand is why would buy this if not for work? but a model S. it drives better, is more comfortable and goes faster. literally makes no sense to buy a pickup truck to use as a regular car.
@@GraveUypo It makes no sense to buy a huge 4X4 just to take the kids to school but people do it. 🤷♂️ At least if it’s an EV it’s cleaner.
Even with power extender thing….still don’t reach promised range. That’s really sad
I want to see a cyber truck do "Hell's Revenge" in Moab and some of the other trails. How about competing in Matt's Recovery Off Road Games next year.
And why do us taxpayers have to foot the bill for tax credits for truck buyers???
Because the corrupt, US government has been a fascist/socialist cluster fvck for many decades.
I would buy one. But it won't be allowed here in the EU. This car will kill people when crushing with smaller cars.
And pedestrian safety requirements will keep it out.
Ethernet on-board signalling ... so what? I recently paid over $1600 to replace a faulty headlight on my model S. It was an electrical fault, the headlight was physically intact. What would the cost have been if my headlight consisted of a mechanical switch, a copper wire, and a light bulb in front of a reflector?
Great summary Mr Da Vinci. Cybertruck does have pros and cons. One thing I would like to point out is the drag race with the Porsche 911. That seems kind of unfair because it was not really designed for drag racing. But it is great marketing so show it the way they did. The cybertruck may not be for everyone but at least there are more choices now and it will push other companies to innovate more.
Plus it is meaningless for the owner to have that performance.
911 not designed for drag racing? Yes, it most certainly is, with its rear engine, launch control, dual clutch trans. It does so very well.
I thought it was a really fabulous gimmick video clip!
And cybertruck IS designed for drag racing of course
Exactly. It's a frikin Truck!
You forgot one *major* advantage: nobody will steal your catalytic converter.
I was bound and determined to get the 500 mile range model, because I use my truck mostly for towing my RV, but frankly, I nearly always tow my RV where some form of power is available. With that in mind, the dual motor without the extender will be my choice as I would not want to lose any trunk bed space... I would rather spend 30 minutes or so for one recharge stop. Thanks for the great analysis.
I think I would choose the same. If I owned and operated a small towing company specializing in towing heavy loads long distances all day every day, I would still consider diesel as an option. Or if I was towing often in northern Canada, Sahara or Siberia. It seems like diesel will be for rare edge cases in a few years. (Gasoline will be for collector's cars.) Give that a good decade for most of the vehicles already on the road to be retired. Then everything becomes an expedition, because where are you going to get fuel? Charging will be everywhere, but liquid fuel pumps will not be installed in new locations and many old location will close down.
@@geirmyrvagnes8718 🙄
You can use the range extender in cyber truck , range will come close to 500
The issue is you will have to find a place to park and disconnect your camper before charging at a power station. So now it will take much longer than just the 30 minutes for the charging.
@@GravityKillsYou That can be an issue. Tesla (and a few others) are installing some pull-through chargers for this. Gas stations replacing their pumps with chargers is one example. Some inconvenience must be expected along with the obvious awesomeness.
Insurance. Repair costs will be insane, and so will insurance. Something to add to your shopping comparisons.
Also, look up the videos of what the doors and rear hatch can do to your fingers. I would not have this thing around children.
I want a Cyber Trailer. Enclosed box convertible to flatbed with a full sized battery pack to offset the range reduction from towing.
Yes!! Hot take, I think tesla will delay the "range extender" and will have some towing accessories!
They should really do something about hiding that god- awful windshield wiper. Maybe they could create some kind of a high pressure air system that blows the water off from the side frames. Or a device that pops out automatically with that big ass window wiper but then disappears after the rain stops.
FYI, that 340 miles of range is based off of the smallest available street tires. With those 35" offroad tires, expect a lot less.
Most definitely, and your caveat is one of many that may take years to overcome!
Where did you see optional tire sizes?
Camissa for hagerty already said 310+epa on 35s for the beastmode tri motor ct. 👍🏻😎
@@haywoodmorganjr1326they are on the Tesla website in the Cybertruck tab
And probably that range is from 100% to 0% not that good for the batteries, and not in the winter time.
You call that a throw? Come on! He lobbed the baseball at the window, proving nothing.
2 problems. No one trusts Elon. The truck is butt ugly.
This is never allowed on the road in Europe, due to the sharp corners at the front. Pedestrians or cyclists could be more injured or killed in a collision.
it's a moot point, Cybertruck is North America only, the biggest truck market.
Awesome video, Tesla engineers are the best.
Oh well, I will just wait for the LA Beverley hills crowd to realize their cybertruck is not very unique and hopefully sell it for cheap.
8:56 That doesn't look like a lot of deformation, so that means most of the force is going to be going to the passengers instead of deforming the car. A car that doesn't break much in these kind of impacts is bad news for the passengers.
I have a res too... I'm bummed about the mileage, but will probably keep my reservation also. I wish the extended battery was longer and shallower, or it could of replaced the in bed trunk. I would have preferred that.
This will be a bodyshop repair nightmare. You better hope you never get in a collision or it's likely the truck will just be totaled. I don't know why electric car companies keep doing this it is just going to jack up insurance premiums.
There is a reason literally no one uses stainless steel. It's extremely impractical and unsafe.
It has to go 500 miles…because they promised it. It’s that simple.
The battery extender belongs IN the Trailer/RV so it can Assist with the pull weight and by putting a Motor on a NoseWheel, the trailer can be moved around (unhitched) and used to power a House/Campsite/Jobsite, while you use CT for something else.
Cheers
Agreed, but now you're looking at an insanely expensive trailer.
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I think there will probably be Chinese knockoffs, hopefully Half the price, by the first quarter 24.
So it (the Trailer) could be used wherever it’s needed for power.
Imagine being able to pull a Trailer behind a Model 3, the Motorized NoseWheel with Regen Braking, would eliminate most of the effort.
Cheers
@@CBR2200
Maybe China will simply Build E-Trailers (or the Sleds at least), because they control most of the Battery market they are cheaper for them to build, in lower quantities - very simple product for a 3rd tier supplier to make.
The Idea of a "spare" pack is going to Showcase the Car Conversion, Retro Car, Tractor conversion Kits, etc.
Cheers
it belongs to the main flat battery because towing your extra battery will just reduce your capabilities! you can very easily triple the range of your diesel truck which is already excpetional by putting an auxiliary fuel tank under the bed so no space is lost for example.
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So, you don’t care about using your bed to carry ~ 500 lbs of cargo all day everyday but Only need it when you Tow.
When you’re Towing its in the Trailer/RV to be used independently of your Truck.
If you have a spare fuel Tank ~ 500 lbs - Same thing. You only add that weight when you’re going to Use it.
You should just stick with your Diesel, you apparently have Zero experience with this F-350 Diesel destroyer called CyberTruck.
Can your Diesel do Anything the CyberTruck can do with so much more Efficiently - NO it cannot.
Superchargers are available in many areas and being added rapidly.
Cheers
The range with the gas vs battery comparison was funny to me as that much gas weighs what 125 lbs compared to the batteries 2k lbs. The gas truck also gets lighter as it goes while the electric weighs the same the whole time with battery effeminacy going down with pack voltage. Don’t get me wrong I like electrics for people that want them but you aren’t going to replace working trucks for a lot of years; it’s just impossible to beat the convenience of a say F350/F450, or other manufacturers equivalents, for a utility box towing or hauling 8-10 hours a day as you can refill the gas tank in 5 minutes, or even faster with commercial pumps.
I’d be interested in a more normal looking truck, like the F150 Light in gif they could get the prices down to be more realistic; we just bought 2 F350 chassis cabs with utility boxes for $75k a piece when the same trucks were under $50k just a few years back. And these are bare bone work trucks; I’m talking roll up windows and manual locks.
Just to be clear - the original Cybertruck glass was never claimed to be bulletproof. They called it armored glass or something like that, but the bulletproof claim was for the stainless steel body.
At the Cybertruck unveil they described the Tesla armor glass as "transparent metal". Just see a recording of the event.Then they tested with palm-size steel balls.
It seems the window test was repeated with a baseball at 1:24 replacing the steel ball projectile.
@@groverw7507 Come on, that was plain bs. What's next: a towel?
@@MooseOnEarth yeah, the guy didn't even throw the baseball hard, sort of placed it at the screen, lol.
@@dogbreath6974 Some individuals even question whether it was a genuine baseball because it appeared excessively bouncy upon striking the window. Therefore, it could have been a baseball liner filled with air. It appears they wanted to ensure by all means that the mishap would not happen again. 🙂
I tell you what we really don't need, that is 0 to 60 mph in 2.6 seconds.
A lot of vehicles would do that in 8 seconds and be considered adequate. Why do we need 2.6?
It's just to show off and say how much better their electric vehicle is.
If manufacturers of electric vehicles could end their obsession with showing off and used smaller electric motors and gear boxes, limited the acceleration to around 7 to 8 seconds they could cure the range problem in one swift stroke.
That fast acceleration is what uses up the battery power.
High acceleration = high current flow.
Don't forget the extra heat involved with pulling extra current from the batteries. There is a reason a Tesla will go into "limp mode" if you try and drive it on a road course.
I have a reservation but about 700k in line. Hopefully they honor the 7k FSD. After the reveal I would likely go for the dual motor over the tri-motor if they allow that change. Primary reason if dual motor will qualify for tax credit, and I think now has more range than tri-motor. Which after they revealed that both have same size battery that isn’t to be unexpected.
Wonder if you will go with dual motor as well.
I’m at 344k for Tri-motor and will also do for dual motor. Range is why I opted for Tri. I have a 2018 M3D, when I ordered charging was still sparse and trips could get sketchy. Having 500 range would make any route we looked at possible. Charging is way better now, but range is key. If I can, I will also switch to Dual and hope they honor the FSD price.
How much did it set you back? I'm seeing news stories about how they took the prices off the website.
@@dannydaw59 the preorder deposit was only $100 fully refundable. The new deposit is $250. Which I think is still refundable.
What happens in a crash if you need to get the window out to escape? How can you break it?
Great Video. Thank you for putting out the towing and off roading percentages. None of the other UA-camrs are even considering how many people don't use their trucks for anything other than transport. Bravo - I just subscribed to your channel.
thats is actually terrible because in a world where we are trying to use our ressources more efficiently and more renewables people continues with the stupid mentality of buying big cars to not use to their full potential! there are 30 years old+ trucks out there that works super hard in third world countries to move people and goods daily on very harsch environments while beeing overloaded to the max.
Not only are prices way up...specs are way down. Just some functionality thrown in no-one asked for. And removed basic features no-ones asked them to remove. Lots of broken promises. It's not even an exoskeleton construction, which used to be more or less the whole point of it.
One major reason other pick-up trucks have not changed their construction methods in 70 years is what that market represents to other makers. It is the same body on frame that cars used to be before safety bumper and roll over standards mandated for sedans were legislated. Light trucks were exempted and so were much more profitable to keep making.
Selling the American public on pick-ups as a family car substitute by adding a second row of seats became the major advertising the other makers have pushed for decades. This created the market that the Cybertruck now exists to help fulfill.
I wonder why no one ever questioned why it should be legal for personal cars to evade safety regulations if only they are designed in the least sustainable way. Pretty crazy if you ask me.
The Cybertruck is not safe however. There's numerous design flaws that make it ESPECIALLY unsafe for children. Especially if you prefer your children to keep all their fingers. The collision tests also show that it has 4x the impact force of an F150. Tesla won't even release the entirety of the test dummy video because it clearly looks terrible just from what they have shown.
Wanted more range for less money, Unfortunately physics has butted heads with my unreasonable expectations. Want more range, put in the extender. As an engineer, I’m more than happy to accept the compromises and innovations - 48V and ethernet architecture, super strong body & glass, adjustable ground clearance, torque vectoring & 4 wheel steering, 11Kw of off board power, huge trunk with bed liner & cover, crazy acceleration and towing, no paint. Hmmm, maybe not so much compromising after all :-) If you don’t like it, get out of line so I can get mine sooner!! Thanks for the video!
I had every intention of getting mine when my reservation comes up.. but I measured the posted length in my garage.. and I have serious doubt it fit 😕. I kinda need to test drive/rent one and see if it will fit in any way.. my only issue with it
Tesla so far prooves that E.V. still stands for Expensive Vehicle.
Please note: the initial cars had no electric system, then it was a 6v system, then a 12v system and now 48v.
Yo mean 800v system?
@@Sagarmaatha8848 I'm talking about the low voltage system in cars, the system that runs the lights, electronics and so on, not about the traction battery.
48vdc is about as high as you would want to go for the "low voltage" system for safety. The advantage is that the current for a given load at 48v is much lower than it would be at 12v. That means wires can be thinner/lighter, etc.
@@avsystem3142 48v would be really convenient for the Mild Hybrid cars (EU thing mainly) because the hybrid battery is 48v. On my Hyundai i30 I used to have a 12v system with a 12v battery for the lights and electronics, a 48v battery for the hybrid assistance and a 48v starter generator for normal operation and then a 12v starter for starting the car when the 48v was depleated. Of course, after all that, a turbocharged petrol engine with an electronic clutch for a manual gearbox. So yeah, 48v for ICE cars would be really nice.
I already know that today's EV don't have AM Radios, But what's the RF signature of a TriMotor CyberTruck?! 🤔 And is there a way to make that more quiet?!
My trucks are tools. One plows my road and clears the snow. One hauls all kinds of stuff, and the other gets me around the town and to work when the roads are bad. I like the look of the cybertruck, and it might be a truck to get me around the town and to work. I am still worried about the function in cold weather. Would like to see information on that.
Pretty sure they are using Tesla in Canada, I guess if you are further north than that…
Tesla heats and cools their batteries to keep them operating in optimal range
Cold weather lowers EV performance significantly. Why would someone need a car this large to get around town? Wouldn't an AWD gas or hybrid crossover be superior?
Buy a portable generator and a gas can. put in the CT bed. Your range is now extended.
Cybertruck is going to be a hard sell for people that want to tow for any distance. I was counting on 400-500 mile range. Primarily because my model 3 long range never got the amount they estimated. At best you get about 2/3 the estimated amount of miles. And so you can imagine what you will actually get if the estimate is 340. And on top of that if you’re towing 10,000 pounds you will be lucky to get 130 miles. And I can’t imagine charging with a trailer on an 6 hour treck into remotes parts of the country for hunting. Overall it’s sad because other than the jacked up prices it sounds like an incredible truck. They should have made the range extender 4 by 6 so it would lay flat in the bed and you could still carry plywood. Poor design on the range extender
A regular gas truck has less range when towing too correct?
@@dannydaw59 sure. But the comparison definitely favors a regular truck as of now. F150 hold 23 gallons and gets 24 mpg on highway. This gives you a range of 552 miles. No more needs to be said, but pulling my flat bed with a mule and some other supplies I used to get 15 mpg. So my range pulling a trailer was 345. And when I stop I don’t have to disconnect my trailer to charge. I just pull up and refuel and in 7-8 minutes I’m back on the road.
Again Teslas estimated range are terribly on the high side. At least it’s been the case in my model 3. I therefore expect the same on Teslas other vehicles. So I strongly doubt the cybertruck will get 340. I suspect it will likely be around 300. Then when you tow it will probably be 100-150 miles per charge. I hope it’s better but doubtful. Now my hope is the improve the range over time. I love my model 3. And I wanted the truck too. The problem with towing with an electric vehicle isn’t how much weight, it’s how much range
Lots of things to like. But I don’t see this truck replacing the off-road trucks like the Tacoma, and Gladiator. Not enough articulation for getting over rocks, let alone the lack of charging ability out on the trail.
The combination of the super car level body stiffness, steering by wire, rear wheel steering and computer control suspension make this thing drive like a sport car.
The ideas of a separate range extender is brilliant if it can be remove and use as home power wall and hook it back into the truck for long trips
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Great idea! Hopefully Tesla is listening.
No vehicle that weighs as much as this thing does handles like a sports car. It might handle good for a wanna be truck but it doesn't handle like a sports car , not a true sports car anyway. Take it to the track with that 911 see how many times the 911 laps you in an hour of track time.
remove it, what with lol.
@@bobbybishop5662 yeah but it's gonna be the most fun TRUCK out of all the other EV trucks, none of the others come close in steering feel
G Wagon owners are hardcore off-roaders? I can think of one lmao
I agree, the vehicle fits most needs. Certainly is the future. My order is probably 1 -3 years down the road. I will wait.
it fits no needs! it fits the needs of utter waste of our ressources! why would you buy a truck if youre not going to use to its full potential!? whats the point! arent we going to renewables and trying to save ressources!
In my nearly 25 years in corporate engineering I can tell you that actual innovation is inversely proportional to how much management talks about innovation. Large bloated corporations are intrinsically low innovation due to the inertia of all the moving parts and the fear of looking bad from a failure causing career damage. I hope Tesla does not fall into that trap.
Thanks for what you do. I was at the delivery event and continue to be excited about the vehicle. I think history will draw a line before and after the CT. It’s not about specs, price or range. It’s about the future or the past. Can’t wait to get mine!
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I'm honestly not sure if you are being sarcastic or not.
I'll give you the benefit of a doubt and assume sarcasm.
It's a big, overly heavy, ridiculously non aerodyamic EV pick up truck that looks like what we thought looked futuristic when Musk himself was a child, which is how you know he mandated its ridiculous design.
A willfully non aerodynamic design in an EV is just the epitome of stupid.
Video and commentary at the end is DEAD ON!
Exactly how I feel about this product.
I would buy the dual motor version if I could afford it. As the 4680 chemistry improves (v3 maybe), hopefully they'll increase more power into the main battery pack footprint. Powering my house with the truck in an emergency would be amazing and put my mind at ease for situations like this.
Once they add graphene, range will increase
@@gonzos-twin Funny - putting graphene in Li-ion batteries has been known about since 2020, so why isn't it being used already?
Kind of a stupid idea. A real generator is much more practical. You still would need to adapt your panel for this.
Powering your house in an emergency?
Why not just buy a domestic power battery pack instead?
It's not a given that you need a solar panel installation to get a domestic battery pack.
@@gonzos-twin
"Once they add graphene, range will increase"
Graphene is not magic.
You don't just "add" it to a battery cell, it has to be specifically engineered into the electrodes
I bet the extra range battery will mostly be a rental item
Their needs to be a breakthrough in battery technology
Ok. What are you waiting for? Go do it.
Why?
Constant small improvements have gotten us where we are now and look to continue going forward. That's plenty good enough.
For sure, The current products support most applications with long distance towing being the exception. @@zachansen8293
We need PHEV with carbon fuel range extenders. That fixes everything.
If I want to go off road camping. I will be in a truck with 500 mile range. Who cares about if it’s electric or steam powered. Making excuses for this city truck is transparent. It sounds like an excuse. Telling someone that most people don’t tow very often with their truck so a trucks that sucks at towing is ok - is an excuse. I bought a truck for the utility. For the possibility of utility.
I’m a Tesla Owner and a TSLA owner. I recently found out how difficult it is even to attempt to drive through monument Valley Utah in a Tesla model Y was just over 300 mile range. The Tesla was rented and was a year old so of course it had the 10% battery degradation that you got after owning a Tesla for a very short time. (my model Y performance had 10% reduction in just five months.) I wanted to see monument valley but could not as I didn’t have a ccs adapter for third party adapter. Imagine charging 123kw on a 6.8kw charger. ‘Bottom line is, the truck they promised would have been promising. I think their new cell doesn’t deliver either.
Also they promised 620 miles of range with the new vapor roadster. Tell me how likely is that?
They need a range extending trailer.
Why? If you fill the bed with batteries and pull a trailer of batteries you might as well drive a car because you won't have any room left for anything else.
@@eagle25311 the range extender will weigh about 6-800 lbs. If your primary purpose of needing a range extender was to tow things, having it in the trailer will mean you are only carrying the extender when you need it. A ranger extender trailer could also be a platform for a camping trailing where the battery would have dual purpose (extend the range and/or power the camping). If you used the sled of a Y, you could have an 85kw battery under a trailer with thousands of pounds of capacity.
@@TSLApilot Maybe one day but turbo diesels can go 600 miles before refueling just holding what is in the tanks.
@@eagle25311 …using 10x the energy per mile.
@@TSLApilot Yeah it's going to have to work for now. By the time you have a range extender in the bed and the spare tire in the bed there's no more room left for stuff. When I go on hunting trips the spare tire is under the truck bed and no battery taking up space in the back so I can fit my things. Maybe one day the electric truck could work for me but not yet.
Just asking - Isn’t LG Energy Solution the manufacturer of the batteries that have been having all the recalls?
10:06 so you're gonna trust a computer to be in control of the steering? So what if the battery fails and you go off the road into a tree?
Thx for sharing. For one,I love the Cybertruck and it is awesome that @Tesla has created a halo vehicle that will (if @Elon haven't yet) propel it into the limelight. It is of course now the time for tesla to double down and create that revenue earning 'model 2' and use some of the new tech like 48V architecture on that.
I dont get why he keeps steering the conversation only to the Ford F-150 Raptor when it comes to things like range and drag coefficient. Rivian is the truck to beat here- and in a few ways cybertruck beats it. But a balanced discussion would lay out how a Rivian R1Tdual motor Max Pack the has space to store the full spare and is rated to drive 410 miles on a charge. It also has 11,000 lbs towing capacity. That’s CLEARY the competition here- and CT has more bed space and more stiffness, locking differentials, and does it all with 2-3 motors instead of 4. Feels like a GLARING omission from the discussion.
The video goes onto mention off-roaders and it cited Jeeps (fine), Raptor (OK), and then the FJ Cruiser (not even being built anymore) but somehow NOT the purpose built EV off-roader vehicles from Rivian that are priced exactly in-line with Cybertruck. He even mentions the fact that the Cybertruck is flat on the bottom so it can have real clearance… which is a hallmark of the competition.
This omission of Rivian during these parts of the video is bizarre. It’s like the video doesnt acknowledge the existence of the MT Truck of the year 2021.
I just dont get it.
He ends with: There are some other cool electric trucks out there… and no mention of Rivian. It’s absurd.
I was disappointed at first when i saw that the range was going to be 340 miles on the dual motor which i have reservation for. However, my current Tundra is only 317 miles on GOOD gas and barely 290 miles on E85 which i drive 95% of the time. The Tesla Superchargers are going to save us on long towing trips even WITHOUT the range extender battery pack. I can build my own 30kwh pack for about $10k. The range extender pack is about $16k plus labor to put in back of CyberTruck bed.
It going to be good to see 250kw charging, let's hope those 4680 take it for a long time
You are so RIGHT about empty pickup trucks !
12v was adopted in the 50's. Before, it was 6v.
Once my order is ready I’m jumping on it! 😅 Can’t wait 😅
Canceled mine. Lots of things to like but at the same time a few things I didn't. Bumping the price so much more than promised was a starter, and back seat Interior space is cramped compared to my crew cab. Then the reduce range killed it for me, my crew cab gets me 400-440 miles on 26 gallons. Now the Ram Charger is scheduled to be released before my pre order CT can get to me and the RC has up to 690 miles on a 26 gallon tank. Will reconsider the cybertruck when it gets more appealing.