Was 2017 Bollywood’s Disaster Year? | Karan Johar, Ekta Kapoor, Ronnie Screwvala, Ritesh Sidhwani
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- Опубліковано 18 гру 2017
- Why are box office collections rapidly dropping? How do we stem the decline of footfalls at theatres? Are we empowering our writers enough? And are Bollywood actors overpaid? We get Hindi cinema’s top producers - Karan Johar, Ekta Kapoor, Ronnie Screwvala and Ritesh Sidhwani - to weigh in on what’s ailing the film business and why this year was a particularly bad year.
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i nearly fell of the chair when i heard ekta kapoor saying " my creation, my creativity" and also Karan johar saying script script script.
sahenshah shahjung what are you talking about, dude? Johar made some really script heavy films with love triangles and infidelity😂
sahenshah shahjung True. Ae Dil Hai Mushkil was pure shit
sahenshah shahjung utkarsh pant the biggest issue with Bollywood is visible in the first few seconds itself. These are Angrezi born confused desi speaking in English. Have you seen English, Japanese, Chinese, Thai, Russian or any language film producer talking in English always.
sahenshah shahjung 😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂 Exactly
The language is a issue..star kids and most of the in the bollywood can't speak and understand hindi.. No one is talking about that thing
No wonder, Mr. Screwvala is the only sane and shrewd person sitting here, whose words are actually making sense!
Even siddharth roy kapoor
Very knowledgeable fellow
And doesnt sound shallow like karan johar
True! He funds good content too!
Disha Virk Why is Karan Johar interrupting him ?
Disha Virk Totally second your thoughts. In his early days, he made a fortune out of making toothbrushes. This guy is as grounded as he is shrewd.
truee..
2017: Bollywood's disaster Year
2022: Hold my beer!! 🍺
😑😑
they are saying same things but not implementing wat an irony
Every Year Is A Disaster For Bollywood Now. 😕
Yes 2002, 2017 and 2022 were really disasters year for Cinema 📽️😌.
Ekta Kapoor, this woman.... has single-handly destroyed Indian television, she is only reason why many people have shifted to Netfilx and shit. Now, the downfall of Indian Tv has started and it won't tale long.
shlok goel The downfall jad already started way back in 2010-2011. And just because of ekta Kapoor. And now she is talking about content.
Lipstick under my burkha was solely the idea of the director and Ekta was the last person she approached for production. She is just a producer of that film without any creative inputs and she is talking about content today.😏😏
What else can you expect from someone who's Bunglow got made due to the 80's
shlok goel It's not a singlehanded thing. She cashed in on what worked. now look at her talking about looking for substantial scripts. Indians chose to consume shit, ekta capitalised on that. now there are better community of audience growing and Ekta and other producers will try to make high quality stuff.
Not fan of Ekta bt it was her serials that pulled off large section of metro audience to small screen in late 90s and early 2000. Having said that she still stuck in same era (15-20 yrs back), with her content. Her only audience these days are from ruler area or our mother’s generation who are actually fond of those craps. 😂😂😂😂
Stephen Anna Marydas actually it's the fault of us, serials like naagin rake in trps what can we expect??
Producers like ekta would keep making crass serials if we keep on watching those ridiculous stuffs.
karan is talking about script and content value and again planning to make student of the year 2 ..*slowclaps*
mayur reddy hahaha. You just summarized my thoughts .
karan and ekta are to Bollywood what cancer is to humans.
mayur reddy utkarsh pant the biggest issue with Bollywood is visible in the first few seconds itself. These are Angrezi born confused desi speaking in English. Have you seen English, Japanese, Chinese, Thai, Russian or any language film producer talking in English always.
Why is Ekta Kapoor sitting there... She is responsible for degradation of Indian TV.
@@amit4Bihar bhai aap v to angrezi hi bol rahe ho
I love how they're blaming the actors, the theaters and the audience. It's high time for a reality check. Someone has to tell them that they're the reason behind the deterioration of the Indian Cinema. It's not that people can't afford going to the theaters or it's too inconvenient. It's just that the content we find on the celluloids is much better than their mainstream commercial movies. People are now realizing what Good Cinema is.
Perin Malde oh really???? Ppl understand good cinema??? Then plz tell me how judwaa2 golmaal return n badrinath like superb films made 200+ crore at box offc???
tony Yes, those movies definitely did well on the box office. But on the other end of the spectrum, there are also movies like Trapped, Lipstick under my burkha and Newton which were not just loved by the critics but also a plethora of people. What I meant was, people have Started watching such movies and these 'not so commercial movies' will do better at the box office as well but it'll take some time. For now, the Start is brilliant.
Perin Malde trapped n newton both r commercially flop films.. Lipstick made 17-18crore n declared hit only bcoz its budget was 6-7crore.. .. Look at numbers... How can u say ppl r loving these films... Where mediocrity like judwaa2 golmal makes 200+crore within india.. Then atleast these films should make 50+ crore... Infact hit declared small budget entertaining films like bareilly k barfi n shubh mangal savdhan just made 30-35 crore.. R u serious?? If movie is so good n liked by audience as well then why just 30-35crore... In 2014 superhit film Queen also made just 80crore despite being such a entertaining family films.. It couldnt even cross 100cr mark... N avg films of akshay kumar like rustom toilet all easily cross 100crore... Audience is still dumb
they dont gross high because they are not released so widely with as many shows,and many people watch those kind of films online and not in the theatres
Sai Ashwin thats the question m asking why ppl watch online n dont go to theaters in same way they go for judwa2 badrinath shits... Question is also that why these films get so many less screens... And even if u see the number of screens still their box offc figures r very low... Fact is we as audience r still dumb we still like shit
Never saw such a splendid demonstration of hypocrisy, Thank you.
Great comment. Fully agreed.
Kunjal Chawhan lol
Well said!
Ekta Kapoor and Karan they are the very definition of mediocre.
Most apt comment for this video. Just explain it further for more clarity.
Ekta kapoor talking abt contet😂😂😂She ruined TV ...N now movies
love sex dhokha, udta punjab, dirty picture, lootera... definitely did not ruin movies
PALLAVI SHARMA
kya kool hai hum?half gf?etc etc
Bt you do admit she completely ruined TV.She herself said in an Interview dat the content she produces for TV is not sumthng she watch.So definitely believes dat Indian audience doent deserve the gud content.
yeah it's definitely not great content, but at the same time if so many people in the heartland lap it up, maybe they enjoy that kind of stuff and she kept just giving them that... anyways I think that her digital content is going to be pretty good because she's not targetting the heartland audience through that, but the urban audience. guess we'll wait and see
You should watch her web series Bose: Dead/Alive.
Do you understand the concept of "Demand and Supply" in business? She's an entrepreneur. She Supplied what public demanded. It was never her fault.
She shaped Indian Cinema in a better way. She was the one who gave Space to Directors like Dibakar Banerjee, Apurva Lakhia and Milan Lutharia to make Films like LSD, Shootout at Lokhandwala, OUATM and many more..
Anupama's obsession with box office numbers and footfalls is exactly the problem with bollywood right now. Ronnie is the only sensible speaker on the table here.
1)Stop making sequels & remakes & if making a sequel make it worth watching.
2)Nepotism rocks. Writers not given their due.
3)Build more theatres in India.
4)Indian TV industry needs a complete makeover & so do some Indian filmmakers.
5)Indian UA-cam/online content is more diverse, interesting and likeable.
6)Please encourage & find new raw Indian talent (which has probably more ideas).
Bunty Sonawane what does nepotism have to do with talent
Nailed every point bro.
Bunty Sonawane I agree with each and every word of yours!
They complain, but they still go out an watch them because of immensity and quality of production value that those films have. Hollywood also has interesting writing going on for those remakes and sequels because they know that if you don't have good writing they won't make a dime. Take the Assasians Creed film for example, horrible writing for a reboot of a video game film - and it plummeted at the NA box office.
Bunty Sonawane Bhai not all star kids can act many have disappeared and many are bogus.
There are few good celeb
kids who can act but not all.
During the awards
nepotism is very visible.
Ronnie Screwvala - rags to riches - gave us some great movies - Respect!
Keeshor Kumaar Which great movies
@@milyasf2208 uri the surgical strike , rang de basanti , jodhaa akbar , lakshya and many more...
@@milyasf2208 just check is filmography
@@milyasf2208 Swades , Tamasha , Rockstar , Maasan , Lagaan , Jab we meet and many more
Ronnie Screwvala looks like Ross's dad from F.R.I.E.N.D.S (TV show)!!
Paras Trivedi Hhahahajajajajajajajajajajahhahahaha
Hahahhahah
Hahaha
They both have Middle Eastern roots that’s why. Elliot Gould is Jewish and Uncle Ronnie is Parsi.
2017 : Karan commends on Aamir's choice of script and understanding for screenplay...
2018 : Thugs of Hindostan
Viveik Vikraam Singh Roti ke liye karna padta hai
@@akshaysubramaniam8963 Agr pehle se hi 100 crord ki roti
🤣🤣🤣
Karan "we are in crisis mode"; translation; "I can't continue to make stupid romantic comedies with same formula and same actor" ...
Nina Well said Lol
Ekta Kapoor shouldn't even talk about making content films. And to an extent Karan Johar too. Although Karan has distributed films like Baahubali, he hasn't able to make a film where the content is given more importance than the star.
Ronnie Screwala and Ritesh Sidhwani are the ones who have produced relatably better films.
Sreehari Ravindran He made my name is khan and kapoor and sons.
Sreehari Ravindran Neel Vaidya what about Yash Chopra? What great films did he produce and make. To me Yash chopra made crap films!
@@sreekarreddy9623 my name is khan was the stolen script of Munnabhai 3. Poor Raju Hirani.
Rakshit Shetty (kannada cinema) has started a trend in kannada wer he has 7 writers including him are given due credits and rewards..their job is to write a film ..they can direct or give them to others to direct..His writing team is calld '7 odds' ..and they started with d super successful #kirikparty 😎
Your comment aged like fine wine
So Called BOLLYWOOD Scholar Students Discussing Their (Failure) REPORT CARD!
Nepotism is the biggest reason for downfall.If these producers will give chance to newcomers only on basics of talents .we will get to see better movies and more and more people will go to theatres to watch movies.
Avdeep Singh I dont want to offend u but do you fell that same way even after watching a amazing film by Alia Bhatt or after having a laugh riot of watching a Varun Dhavan film or a amazing Guru by Abhishek Bachan.Cuz ye long bhi nepotism ke hi paidaish hai.
P.S. i dont intend to promote pathetic actors like Farden Khan with my argument.
I just want to say that hamesha bure nahi launch hote hai. Kabhi kabhi bohot ache bhi launch hote hai.
My point is if Karan Johar had cast actress of soty without any bias, maybe we would have got much better actress than Alia Bhatt.
There are so many girls in India who can act better than Alia but sadly they never get chance to prove themselves.
With 1 performance u can not rate someone good actor.what about other movies of Abhishek bacchan
I kinda like Abhishek so lets not discuss that. I like to watch his movies. Hamesha world class cinema thodi hi dekhna hota hai.
Avdeep Singh Shit Content is the big problem.
All I can say is that this year gave us Rajkumar Rao so not a bad year at all.
They said 2017 was disaster now 2022 what’s up ?
Go to Raju hirani and take some tutions ...
So true 😂😂
DEBU SINHA
Kse Bhai?
Explain it?
on how to whitewash image
@Rudraksh Tiwari well Said my friend
You can't sell shit content just by having big stars. The creativity has gone so bad that we don't have a good song (original lyrics). And Ekta kapoor should retire from all medium.
Totally!
Like for Ekta Kapoor must retire from all medium. :) I mean if her mom is her advisor on creative and financial matters, then well it's about time.
She sells only lust
earlier, movies were made about poor people fighting the system.
now, movies are made about urban, hip kids going to holidays in paris.
thats the problem
If u r so concerned about the declining quality of cinema stop making the remakes and sequels of hit movies. Pls hire some good writer
if only sequels are making big money, why wouldn't they?
Mr. T might be they are not getting the expected business
+Mr. T exactly. why should they? and you yourself have now given the reason of death of cinema in this country.
judwa 2 superhit..
golmaal 4 blockbuster..
tiger zinda hai.. all time blockbuster..
who says sequel doesn't work??
What I think you actually mean by ''work'' is that they earn an awful lot of money. But do these sort of movies remain with you after you exit the theatre? If a movie simply ends after a few hours then it isn't of any worth. The real ones, the actual good ones, well, they stay.
No matter how much debate you do , these people are going to make same shit in 2018 and so on... Coz they make projects none of them have an original story to tell.
behold the truth, folks!
paisa milega tab tak movies like tiger zinda hai will keep coming out
Yea, they keep calling their shits as a 'masala movie'
You said the truth watch now 2019 kalank
SOTY 2, Kalank! Those are screenplay heavy movies! Wow!
Karan Johar has no right to be here after making a terrible movie like ae dil hai mushkil
absolutely!
Also, KKHH where the characters keep saying that "hum pyaar ek baar karte hain" and then as soon as the friendzoned girl turns hot and SRK's wife dies, he pursues his second choice.
Priya K whatever you said is so right. His movies make no sense whatsoever. The way he portrays rich people and colleges in his movies feels so surreal. But ae dil hai mushkil was just so unbearable for me to sit through. This movie had no story in the first place. I wish this movie was banned and we could have never gotten to watch such a shitty movie. Fawad Khan only had a 15 minute role and Aishwarya Rai was the worst part of ADHM! I hate Karan Johar for making ADHM. I have totally written him off after watching this shitty movie. The only director I like in Bollywood is Rajkumar Hirani. He never disappoints and his movies always have good content!
Jahangir Hussain Sreehari Ravindran Neel Vaidya what about Yash Chopra? What great films did he produce and make. To me Yash chopra made crap films!
flash o bhai google pe search kar yash chopra ki movie.
For years, I've heard people saying content is king, we should empower writers, pay them more, etc etc etc. I wonder why none of them (on this panel or otherwise) have actually gone ahead and done that!! So i guess apart from the actors, the producers themselves are not astute enough, they don't have the capability to pick a good script out of a certain lot.
Oh the people who singlehandedly destroyed the IQ of TV and film audience sitting and complaining why 2017 was not good for Bollywood. This is a reality check for you. Kindly understand the fact that each and every frame in the movie showed is important. People's hard-earned money and 3 h of their day is invested in you Stop blaming actors, distribution, number of theaters and 'easily reachable digital content'. Upgrade your story telling and art of cinema. According to me 2017 was the best year for Bollywood coz this was a reality check for the dullheads.
Judwaa 2 was a bad movie
Banyan Tree it was major movie for 90s kids and Nostolgia! That’s why it worked.
Judwaa 2 was a horrible horrible horrible movie.... Varun Dhawan needs to learn acting from Salman....Even tv actors act better then him
LOL Ekta Kapoor, Karan Johar. The level of MEDIOCRITY in bollywood
lol and they making crores of money being mediocre and you are here sitting at home watching them and commenting on youtube! what does that make you? A loser!
risg4me Yes making crores does make them great business people...but definitely mediocre film makers...And we need to get rid of " they are more successful than you so you cant criticize them " logic. Rant over...toh...um
Aur..ghar pe kaise hai sab? ... Acha chal bye.
@risg4me. Actually you are the one who is a loser. Your level of creativity and quality media consumption is so low that you buy this people's crap and they make crores out of that. Think about that.
Yep. Mediocrity- a byproduct of nepotism is what is hampering the growth of Indian cinema.
I honestly hate Ekta's brand of TV, in many ways that led to the intellectual collapse of Indian TV imo and hence the crap that we see today. But I also don't get the holier than thou attitude of commenters over here. Who made Ekta Kapoor Ekta Kapoor? It's the audience. There's a reason why her shows were wildly popular. So go home and blame your mothers & elders, they thoroughly enjoyed and still do to date all that Saas Bahu crap. Masala shows are also hits in the US (although they are a lot better than ours), and also there's no prime time soap operas only during daytime, but at the same there's an even bigger market for content driven shows like Breaking Bad, Mr Robot, etc. Do you know Sarabhai Vs Sarabhai was a big flop when it originally aired and had to be cancelled, only to become a cult hit in its reruns. Our audience is equally deserving of blame, if not more.
As usual Aamir Khan was ahead of the game...he had seen this situation 2 years ago; hence the move to China's massive market where he dominates completely .
Nina True.. Aamir has always been a trendsetter and makes new paths instead of following the herd.
Optimistic
i feel 2017 was one of the years in hindi cinema where people actually got to see a lot of variety in movies such as a death in the gunj, lipstick under my burkha, newton, meri pyari bindu (for some people), trapped,subh mangal savdhan and many more...i feel only for producers point of view 2017 was a diaster but for audience it was one of the great year, much better than 2016. people should appreciate that the glass was half full and not empty !!!
'Fukrey is a small budget high concept movie' I'm out of here.
Kunal Singh 🐬😁😁😁😂
Kunal Singh How is it?
Actually fukery returns is a great satire! The first one was more of a dark comedy, but second one had great writing, screenplay and acting!
You pissed me off so much with your pseudo intellectual bullshit that i have to tell you that i did not watch "fukrey returns" neither will i give it a chance because that is how we can spark the change however i did watch the first installment and it was BAD... Now keeping in mind the predecessor if you are telling me that the second installment is much better i will agree to disagree on the sheer lack of conviction to make an original concept rather than cashing on the 'Hit Brand Fukrey' ( Just like the other good for nothing brands like Salman & SRK ). I can already gaze the choice of your movies... Those pretentious tryna be smart movies like Fan raees or sultan ... FYI if you think stalking of girls in movies makes the society more vulnerable then you don't have any 'Adhikar' to be a part of story telling Mr. Adhikari . Pfttttttttttttttttttt
If i mention the start of your first comment it starts with and i quote 'Behave demon child No point talking to these people' in which YOU are implying 'They' as in 'Me' incapable of understanding good cinema and ironically you are accusing me of personal attack.... Lol ... you thought bareilly ki barfi was the best of 2017.. you must be living under a rock ...There are so many good cinemas which never gets to shine because people like you loves to dwell in the mediocrity of bollywood which gives us trash like Fukrey or fukrey returns ... i say whats the difference ?
Majority of bollywood films that have worked were made out of scripts that were page turners.The content of the script is more imp than the imagery that the director shoots.Our stories are human stories. If u gonna pay 5 lakh to writers like ritesh has mentioned, you can not expect hindi films to survive the test of time. Bollywood isn't a dying industry. The successes of small content driven films like Hindi medium have proved the same. For the last 5 years these people are saying we have to empower are writers. My question is when the fuck r they planning to bring it in practice? I smell hypocrisy.
Mustafa javed appreciated 👏
So they actually know the root of the problem and they still not willing to pay enough to screenwriter's and production. I think Trapped is the only Bollywood film this year I can say is HATKE from usual films (Haven't seen Newton yet) It is one the best movies I have ever seen . Apart from that, 2017 is another trash for Bollywood.
On the other hand you get movies like Dunkirk, Blade runner 2049, Wind River, Wonder Woman and many many more.
And some low Budget Masterpieces like A Ghost story, Lady Bird, Stronger, It etc.
So the problem is not budget, problem is writing. And I don't understand why Anupama measures 2017 success or disaster based on fucking Box office record.
utkarsh pant agreed 👈
hope you know inspite of all the hype Blade runner flopped in US.
Sangbaran Dasgupta I know but commercial success is very little to do with film being good or not.
I enjoyed it and I believe it the one of the best movies of the year.
I am sure if that movie was directed by someone like Christopher Nolan then movie would be a blockbuster. It's just that Dennis Villeneuve does not bring audience to the table as much as Christopher Nolan.
+Sangbaran Dasgupta The original did as well. But that's the thing isn't it. That's exactly what the original commenter said that why measure the success of a movie or why determine whether it's a hit or a flop by the money it earns? Kermode said I don't care how much money it earned I'm just happy that it exists.
+utkarsh pant Blade runner and 2049 both were always destined to have no audience. Nolan wouldn't have been able to do shit and that comes from a Nolan fan. Why? Because people don't want to invest their brains in a 3 hour movie that naturally doesn't intrigue them. And Nolan could've done nothing about it because such is the nature of the film that blade runner is. I'm sure Nolan himself would say that he couldn't have done a better job than Denis.
Salman khan is the king of nepotism he launched his brothers/ his girl friends and his friends only
Maryam Mirza he also helped launch Siddharth Malhotra , helped Govinda , and in Race 3 is getting Bobby Deol back , but that’s true he loves bringing in people he knows well
U r talking about career man go and see how many people are thanking him for their lives
As an indo-canadian I can kinda reference hollywood pretty well. Hollywood doesnt just bring people to theatres by event films. A movie like "IT" about a scary murder clown killing children isn't an event film but it went on to generate box office records. "IT" isn't a community film either(unless you consider community films to be about murder). So considering the first 15 mins used this so called hollywood template as an example makes no sense. The real reason why I and my parents dont go to theatres in canada where they do show hindi films is because- theres nothing worth watching! The last hindi film we saw together was Padmavati and before it Taray Zameen Par in theatres. These films had something unique to them at the time.
Lastly- Karan refers to his keralite nurses as "malayam nurses"(on barkha dutts show). He doesn't give an f about respecting the southern parts. He just honestly respects the money.
Kerala nurses are Malayalam. What are they to you?! Italian?
Stop finding a problem in nothing. You sound really bitter and jaded.
This sounds very similar to all the end of the year round table discussions between producers and directors at the end of 2016. Bollywood is having the same discussions at the end of 2017. No progress made. In fact, things worsened.
Watch 2021 producers adda. Same discussion. Putting the blame on actors and writers. 5 years and they are still not able to blatantly tell the actors that their salary is high. No progress
I'm a movie maniac who watched more than 3000 movies. I've seen them all from Classics to European to 90's Hong Kong thrillers to Russian Arc's to Eric Rohmer to Bella Tarr. I analyze movies more than I perceive them. I'm more interested in 'Why that movie worked than how it worked'. When I watch a Stanley Kubrick movie I'm more interested in why that movie is so amazing than what camera angle he used to bring that effect.You know what happens when you watch a lot of depressing/ European cinema you feel like watching a stupid non-sensical movie. That when I have discovered 'Adam Sandler' movies. That was when I first saw 'Grown Ups'. Grown Ups is a terrible movie but it has a heart. When I knew that Grown Ups grossed $230 Million, I was shocked! Then I had a Adam Sandler film festival at my home & watched all his movies which most of the American critics call as 'terrible/ stupid' & found that they were indeed stupid but all of them had some connect/ charm. The only connection they have is real characters, realistic situations & a heart that connects to everyone. They may have terrible or stupidly written characters or scenes or comedy but if you see them deeply you can connect to those movies very easily. If you watch all Adam Sandler's movies you can see that most of the characters are guys working for a minimum wage & their lifestyle. It may be cliched but its real. Now that I'm studying in America, I can easily connect to most of the Adam Sandler movies. Most of the situations that I come across in America are all depicted in Adam Sandler movies. That is the reason for their success. The audience are easily connected to such movies. Look at all the clothes they wear in Adam Sandler movies they are so real. Look at the drinks characters have, most of the time its Budweiser. People may call it product placement but that's what most of the guys drink here. You can see Adam Sandler roaming around in Shorts & Sandals in his movies. Can you imagine an Indian star doing that?
All this explanation I'm giving is a self-parable. When Karan Johar says medium range movies don't work in India it is because we never have real characters. If make movies about real characters it always has to be a movie about small town/ some dark stuff. Our Indian Filmmakers or Producers clearly miss something called reality. You can make an urban film with urban characters and their real-life situations. Again when they make something Urban real life again they want it to be something like 'Lunchbox'. If you want to make a commercially viable movie with Urban Backdrop with real characters I really recommend all those 4 producers to analyze Adam Sandler stuff. There is so much reality in that. The one thing that Americans have & our Indians lack is analysis. If you watch American films no matter how terrible they are they are so close to life. They are a slice of life. No glossy clothes, no sets, no fake dialogue. I mean the dialogue is so real. Dev D is real but again its not as real as something like 'Knocked Up!'. Most of the American movies are a slice of life. That is the main reason why 70% of the American films work & not because there are more theatres here in America. Most of our Indian movies are close to cliches. There is no reality anywhere. It's hard to imagine an American movie without a reference to Starbucks coffee or McDonalds or Burger King. You can see in most of the American movies that characters either work in those places or there is at least one character who works there. Can you imagine an Indian movie where the main character works at McDonald's/Starbucks? Don't we have McD/Starbucks in India? We do! Then why dont we ever see at least a single situation wherein the movie actually talks about what happens in the life of those cashiers/ drive-through employees in McD/ Starbucks. Because we don't care about them or we don't feel that they are interesting. If we adopt all this in our movies we'd be-be as successful as Hollywood. I mean I can write a book on all my observations.
adithya kantewada really well said man..... Our industry totally ignore real characters and realistic dialogue... They keep living in clichés and artificial conversations... The change is very slow and most of the youngsters are moving on to Hollywood movies... If this trend continues Indian cinema will be having slow death...
adithya kantewada Great Observation man. Very articulate. Do you have any suggestions on foreign language films.Thanks.
adithya kantewada ...
Can you drop a mail on tarandeepsingh606@gmail.com
I want to talk about something with you
I think the characters are real on the script but as soon as they hire an A lister to play them it somehow comes as unreal. I felt it after watching so many hindi movies. The over the top persona of actors takes over their character. We don't cast the actors who suits the written character we cast the actors who can make money. For ex. If Titanic will be made in India we won't see debutant Leonardo as Jack but Hrithik Roshan as Jack.
Good one! Very good one actually!
This is called utter hypocrisy.. first you make substandard films and then argue why we make pathetic films.. obviously the writings will be pathetic if you let go a good writers and hire pathetic actors for the sake of pseudo stardom. Karan johar Should be the last person to make any complaints why he can't make a good film.. and for the record he is working on soty2..
amitav paul didn't u like SOTY??
A B .. i liked Rishi Kapoor in the film.. but soty is an example of how to screw an actor like Alia bhatt .. and the race and stuff we have already seen in multiple Hindi movies.. so to in the name of launching new faces and making them doing the same old shit didn't work for me.
amitav paul hmm, but i think that was a good movie with some really lovely scenes. Yes it had d same love triangle but chalo we have diff view points 😊
A B that's my point.. still we talk about this lovely moments .. still we don't talk about wow what a script.
With the position that kjo has and from this interview we can assume he has brain too. Why just he limit him self to good interviews only then can why not a good film ?.. but yeah it's his money let him do whatever he wants..
I don't think Karan Johar has directed any decent movie ever. He should stick to producing. Also SOTY was horrid.
An A-list Producer/Director goes on record saying, "we have not empowered our writers". Who the fuck do you expect to empower the writers? Can't pass the buck any further!
2017? Bollywood started sucking like ten years ago.... because hardly anyone invests in simply making solid scripts and finding true talented actors, not just good-looking ones who can’t act or are mediocre at best. Also, “big stars” and big directors can’t save bad scripts.
Ritesh talked about empowering writers by giving them a share of the profit as royalty. But how it works in real life scenario is directors will tell writers " dekho story mera hai tum bass likh rahe ho" deteriorating them to a stenographers level. Sad.
They didn't even care to bother about the fact that apart from Baahubali many regional films too did very well but Bollywood kept flopping....
Hence the increase in quality of Regional films too is a major factor which they overlooked
Subh mangal, toilet, fukrey judwaa tere south ne banai kia??
Total 17 films worked with 7 superhits. No way bad year. Average year. Next year will b superb. South made flops like DJ Spyder
17 films out so many releases..
KIsne bola ki DJ, Spyder flop tha?
Sirf Critical acclaim zyaada nahi mila tha....Ye Northern media ki afwa hai ki ye films flop thi....
BTW regional film matlab sirf South nahi hai....(Even means attleast 3 industries Tamil, Telugu, Malayam)
Marathi, Bengali Gujarati aur kayi saare regional films hai jinme growth hua hai iss saal....
Dark Knight FYI Subh Mangal was an official remake of Kalyana samayal saadham. (south movie)
sal19 91 just like TsK Surya copied special26 and queen remake of south industries 😁😁😁😁
Go to S S Rajamouli not given a single flop in his 19 years of career.
2017 Year ki koi galati nahi hai.. Bollywood me Content, Talent to bacha nahi hai to aane wale years bhi kharab hi honge... Content ke naam pe Old film & South films ke remake and Talent ke naam pe Star kids...
Naveen Nagar star kid me kya talent nahin ho sakta?
Star kids me talent ho na ho inke bachpan se kale bache you tube pe gore ho jate he like suhana khan aradhya bhachan and samira kapor and you start saying them ye cute kaise lag rahe he khans and kapor k kali suhana khan aradhya bhachan and samira kapor ko you tube pe gora bana dena ye b to ek talent hi to hai photo editing animation vfx ka.
Mohammed sadiq i used to watch al star kids in televison and my newspaper photo and in my newspaper photo nyasana devgn was european white fair skin with blue eyes from her childhod to when she was seven year on you tube at age of thirteen she became dark and her blue eyes became black how could i belive in these photos when my own sister use to tel her beautiful blue eyes like her mom to donate your eyes to us want to have your eyes so how come khans kapor dark children became light and nyasana devgn light blue eyes and e and fair skin from childhood becomes dark.
mohammed sadiq it's not that star kids cannot be talented but majority of them are subpar and gradually improve while some really talented actors have to struggle for years (Irrfan, Nawaz) or get rejected because they are not fair skinned (Rajkumar Rao). Also, people with similar experiences who live in their luxurious bubbles cannot bring a more wholesome perspective while someone who has lived a fairly common life away from the limelight can provide us with perspective that common people can relate to.
Well said brother
Empower the Writers???? R u guys serious?? U guys don't think there are good writers in a country of 1.2 billion ? Karan , you read scripts on a flight daily and don't find one good script? Come on! Stop blaming writers for this!! Bull Shit!!!!! By the way how was Badrinath Ki Dulhania a great script according to you ? You produced it!! Liking a script or not is purely a subjective matter!!
pavan kulkarni badrinath ki dulhania was good movie first watch bro
Am Rio i have seen it and hence commenting bro :-) . No hate here. i think it was just okay. Look at script of Padman . Also, i feel dear zindagi was a far more better and socialistic script.
pavan kulkarni so who will watch realistic movie and just look how unrealistic Bahubali2 business yet it was stupid movie
writer ko to 5000 ruppees b nai milta writer kaha milenge sara paisa to hero le jaega 50crore
Am Rio lol comparing fantasy movie with realistic movie , that is why dubbed Hindi movie collected more than Bollywood movies. I don't like realistic movie.
Only Ronnie Screwvala sounds credible. Karan Johar craves more attention than movie stars. He is constantly partying/socializing with them. He also does stupid chat shows and movie awards to stay in the news. If you are worried about the fate of Bollywood and the quality of films then focus on being a producer instead of trying to be Superman of Bollywood.
Monty Bonza GOOD Point 👍🏼
There was only one certain fact spoken here that Amir Khan knows a good screenplay!
As a huge fan of Bollywood from Pakistan, I wish you all (the guests) the very best for your upcoming ventures.
Peace.
Akbar Khalid Hi, Pakistani. Ignore the hate comments that will surely pour in the coming days. Happy holidays! Bye...
As a huge Bollywood fan originally from India, I wish the best to Pakistani films too. I’ve enjoyed a few Pakistani content over the last couple of years and I’m seeing the growth there.
Thank you soo much for the love n support. I wish Pakistani movies to do well overseas as good as Indian movies.
Akbar Khalid but still hasn't changed ! And it's still overall TRASH!!
@@raghavmalviya10 over enthusiastic fucking losers
Ekta is absolutely right. Content is the king now. Even Superstars like Salman and Shahrukh cannot bring in revenue if their content is subpar, as proven by Happy New Year Or Tubelight. This is where Akshay Kumar has revamped himself. He does content driven movies now. And they need to widen their horizon when it comes to medium. Television is down the drain and Digital is really booming when it comes to content and audience. Movie industry needs to quickly get their priorities straight if they want to survive the long haul. Also, people will watch all sorts of genre if they are given the option.
No he just doesn't say no to movie.....toilet was bad movie he just does every movie and leave it on audience.....exactly opposite of aamir....but it works
Happy New Year sucked. It also made a lot of money.
Akshay is selling patriotism or society issues in his flicks .. but it's good for family members. So it works. Actually they are the new commercialized movies. For thinking audiences, it is absolutely trash.
changing the indian society mindsets through toilet , padman is trash? u better watch Tiger beta....
Katyayini Singh Happy New Year was superhit!
Love these types of interviews ❤️
same pitch ;)
Me too
Absolutely well said, "we need dream merchant " like "Ronnie Screvala".
This was such an insightful & intelligent look at the industry on-goings. Wow! Pretty sure I'm going to rewatch it a couple of times. Thank you Film Companion & Anupama!
Next time, just call Ronnie, Ritesh and Siddharth Kapoor maybe.
Karan Johar makes pathetic film responsible for bad films and lecturing on good films....
Shiwang Kumar Singh very true
He is a talentless, narcissistic, shallow hack.
he makes good films
Shiwang Kumar Singh he is the creator of nepotism in the industry
Shiwang Kumar Singh majority of his films have been good movies ..
At 30:46 Karan Johar saying "I dont even want to get into it else will upset people here" ,hahaha, that was hilarious...Wish he had completed his sentence though.....Must say it takes 'Guts' to admire other people or other industry folks (here south indian industry)swork.....Kudos
The interval blocks make Indian movies special and different from other countries' movies, the creators should find ways to make them interesting, both Bahubali films had such great interval blocks....it makes the movie so epic.
Once ssr said ,the whole system of Bollywood will collapse someday and it has happened
Actually, nothing has happened. Shit like Suryavanshi made money.
ritesh sidhwani saying A list actors asking double digits and their films not even getting double digits opening and then karan johar also agreeing to it in a very cynical way saying see how much your last 3 films did and you are still asking same price. did anyone notice a cryptic dig at SRK? since Raees and JHMS didn't do well? no offence to any fans out there it was just my observation.
16:32... bhai nikaal do interval... nice point karan
Exactly! The problem is that the multiplex owners want those intervals to exist, so that public would move out to buy their overpriced samosas. Hence, they don't want to screen movies that lack an interval. In last few years, i only remember delhi belly not having an interval and the theaters still had to screen it. Aamir did it when other producers couldn't! If these producers form a unity and refrain from setting an interval instead of chit chatting here, then the theater owners would have to agree eventually and cut out the interval thing. Hopefully then the movie quality would get better.
Braj Kishore Some people
need toilet break.😅
Sahi bol rahe ho lekin ye pvr waale ki 75% earning interval mai food and beverage se hoti hai isliye ye kabhi hone nahi denge. Sab moh maaya k chalkar mai pade hai film line mai isliye the best place for content is the internet. Quite cost efficient, provides you the comfort to watch anywhere and any time.
Provide plastic bags for piss
As an avid cinema goer, 2016 and 2017 were highly disappointing. 2016 ruined the cinema-going experience for me so in 2017 I hardly went to any because I saw no incentive in going. These Bollywood hotshots need to realise that we the audience have matured up, we NEED and WANT high-quality content. I mean have you watched House of Cards and The Crown on Netflix? They're masterpieces (yes, they're tv shows), we need such high-quality content as an incentive to go to the cinemas. Why can't we make such shows and movies? Money isn't the problem. Can we have our own version of The Crown except maybe based on the life of Indira Gandhi? Why not?
Sowrya Kasim Absolutely right...but theres also the trouble of the people in this country being too sensitive and taking offense too easily.The mass refuses to have an unbiased perspective.I think "Padmavati" is a classic example of that.
Fabulous segment.FC needs to have more such technical conversations about the ‘business’ and not just interview actors who give the same rehearsed responses in hundreds of interviews.
Why they are not talking like an Indian film maker.They are very much influenced by Western Culture.....Diff between South and North.🤔👇👇👇
Only Aamir khan can save Bollywood from drowning by mixing creativity with commerce aptly
what abt Akshay? He is doing amazing work!!
Navbhar Sharma Also Akshay Kumar.
He is doing for some time now,but aamir is doing that for a long time.....Also his movies are not that classic like of Aamir....
Navbhar Sharma Ya. & He is trying also like him. But Akshay sir does commercial as well as off beat films.
Navbhar Sharma I love Aamir Khan sir’s films.
Karn Johar overtalks!!
Acha hai...when was the last time karan made a 'nice' movie??
Parag Bhattacharya last year Kapoor and sons .. :3
My name is khan
Sreekar Reddy thats history 11 yrs old...yeah it was nice...so was dirty picture but both are once in a blue moon and thank god they exist and they create some hope in heart.
Parag Bhattacharya also badrinath ki dulhania was good the lunch box,itifaq
Parag Bhattacharya My Name Is Khan.
Anupama I really wanted more of Ronnie's view ... is it editing ???
Before watching this interview, I just wanna say that Karan Johar is one of those people who are the biggest reasons why Bollywood is still struggling to make content movies. This man thinks he is Martin Scorsese of Romantic/Drama/comedy movies. May be I am wrong, I dont know..
shlok goel he is the most succesful director and runs the hit office dharma productions! So shut the fuck up
supratim sarkar salman khan is also the most successful actor with most number of box office hits, still doesn't know shit about acting and still makes non sense movies.
More than seeming pissed with the fraternity people you seem agitated with your life. Dude get a life!
Siddhart Agarwal Isn't this the only sentence you keep writing to everyone who criticizes your one and only idol Karan Johar.
Yes you are wrong. Bahubaali, Kapoor and Sons, K3G - He has nurtured films that are so different from each other and yet appeal to large audience! He might be a mediocre director but is an excellent producer
Karan Johar is the worst filmmaker in this round table. I'll never forgive him for making such a torturous and unbearable movie like ae dil hai mushkil
So I used to be a person who used to go to the theatres very often with my friends to watch a movie. Last year I had seen lots of films in the theatres. But sorry to say I had not watched a single film in the theatre this year, but I have watched lots of them at home on my phone,PC or TV. For a person like me who is not yet a working girl but just does a couple of tutions to get the pocket money I will think about budgeting. Now if I get a couple of movies for the price of a single tickit then I will be choosing the cheaper version. And after a whole day of college and remaining stuck in the traffic for hours the bed at home seems much more comfi than the padded seats in the theatre. To be presise I watched 4 film with my friend at home and many more alone after coming back home at night because as Mr.Ritesh said it takes an hour to reach the theatre where as it just takes 2 mints for my friend to hop into my house and vice-versa, so we three decide lets wait for some time it will be available soon. So guys have to give us the reason and the kick to travel all the way to theatre and you also have to find ways to stop us frm watching stuff on our phones soo early. Cuz lets face it we want to watch films and we absolutly love to watch films but most importantly we like to watch it with friends and family while we also save money 😉! Cuz everyone doesn't get a big paycheck after the end of the month.
A films like Newton is the torch bearers to the fact that content wins over everything. Now if I have the threat that once its off the theatres it will not be available to me very soon through any medium I will have to run to the theatre irrespective of traffic and lathurgy!!
Dipsikha Saha u wrote an essay actually a good one
A. B thanks!
Exactly the point in most other countries films are not that easily accessible outside the theatres. DVDs do come out but that after some time . So the films which are anticipated ones are watched by people no matter what the situation. If government and respective authorities can implement some sort of restrictions then I guess condition might improve. We can hope for the best
farhan imtiaz 👍
I find your logic naive ! How can ticket prices reduce when real estate prices are off the chart !get data research and then comment! 2)your English is weird and grammatically a pain to read 3)the filmmaker has to work with multi players in this pool ,real estate prices ,maintaining a bottom line ,very bad content ,government apathy ,lack of unity among people in the industry,refusal to acknowledge hollywoods superb content !
I thought these are grown up and mature men and women but throughout the interview I just found them cutting each other right in the middle of a good point.
25:00 television have writers! lol!
rile niles 😂🙈
that too, crore a month, mere ko bhi job de do, main bhi likh lunga
they work very hard.
ctrl,C,V are there favourite keyboard buttons
Bhai writes the scripts!💯
Karan Johar actually understands his craft. I used to think wrong about him, but this guy actually understands it and Ekta Kapoor is also not that dumb person which people try to make her look like.
ishan bajpai yes ! Very true ! But then it's ironic that they stress upon content when they keep producing films which is more on star cast and glamour and less on content
Karan obviously understands the movie making process. He is seen expressing his suppressed feelings about the actors who are not bringing numbers. But Ekta is a narcissist! She says intelligent things but goes on again to make Nagin 3. Agrees Tv is a housewife's paradise but the content has been degrading drastically!
ishan bajpai Sreehari Ravindran Neel Vaidya what about Yash Chopra? What great films did he produce and make. To me Yash chopra made crap films!
It's your point of view, But I really liked Deewar, Trishul and a lot of his other older movies. Yes, there are movies of his that I also don't like from the recent times, but it doesn't mean that all are crap.
But, if you mean that you watched all of the 22 movies he directed and came to the conclusion that all 22 of them are crap then I think you probably were expecting something completely different, OR more realistically you have not watched many of his films and are just assuming this on the basis of the one or two movies you saw.
I still remember Saif talking to.some eminent journalist . He was like normally I don't watch desi movies , I only watch world movies be it Hollywood , Korean etc etc . Next month he launched Agent Vinod
Even when Anupama is posing a question to someone else this uncle has to talk non stop. How insecure can you be?
Please make such director video
It help us as a student s who want to become director
If it possible mam please start something like where assistant directors
Are also share there experience in group.
Yess even i aspire to become a director
All the solution to the problems can be found in the comments section here...
😊🙏😂
Some problem with audio. Its not consistent. I have to continuously alter my speaker volumes
Thank you so much so this one... Its a well thought out Topic of Discussion...More power to you and your team Anupama Mam..
Content is must. still viewers loves to go to cinema halls. Movies like padman coming up. It's not about akshay kumar it's about content. Industry wake up.
RAVI SINGH i dont think so if the same movie padman done by actors like rajkumar or randeep hooda movie will end up ita run like newton or max of 50-60cr... But aftr akshay tag movie will def made 100+ cror if its avg.. N 200+ crore if its actually good n entertaining
tony Agreed. Stardom enhances box office
They will discuss the issue, at the same time they will continue to make low cinema because they wants returns in short span and not ready to experiment.
thank god the main concern was to strengthen writing department, now I can go and complete my script, naam yaad rakhna " Ghanit"...
Miss Bollywood Films from the 90s and 2000s 💕
It’s clear as daylight that leading stars need to be paid by share of revenue earned. It could be the only way to rescue this industry - one that has given a lot to the nation.
Ekta is right she became nice with her choices
2019
Judgemental Hai Kya
Jabariya Jodi
Dream Girl
2017 has been an awesome year for the Telugu film industry. Nearly a 50 films have been commercially successful and most of them got critical acclaim as well. Maybe audiences are ready to rush into the theatres anytime only if you give them good content. Hindi mainstream cinema is absolute garbage and audiences this year didn't hesitate to throw all of it out while its alternative and independent cinema zone is as good as always. 🙂
Ronnie and Ritesh make sense.
Karan makes sense through his words but certainly not through his movies.
Ekta, TWO MINUTES SILENCE!!!
RIP...
Such an enlightening discussion on industry dynamics! One way of cutting through this crisis, which I anticipate would grow over the years, as Ekta rightly foresees, is to make more realistic films, in the format of, say, Parinda. Either you go totally, out-and-out fantastical or remain close to reality, without compromising with commercial cinema's mandate of being gripping and entertaining.
Pls film companion recently only a concept trailer of Nagraj has been released tell your producer friends make a movie on that otherwise you might lose here again if Netflix or Amazon takes the project under them. I really didn't liked when one of the producer said Hollywood has Batman vs Superman and We have our Khanman 😑🙄 , pls rather than relying on actors make Indian superhero characters it will be better for your industry only.
This was the only time where i found ekta more sensible than others.
Movies which have worked out last year were either realistic films or event films Being a Keralite, movies which worked out in Kerala were either of the above. Rarely does the odd masala entertainer come and also gathers good numbers. That's how I think every movie industry should work.
Great watch. Great questions as well. Also please take care of the audio levels and overlaps. It keeps going up down in not jus this one but in previous videos too. #thankyouanumachopra
i think now bollywood needs to learn not to copy from hollywood , south indian films and other regional cinema.south indian cinema is much better than bollywood.i hope they will understand that party song, remixed old songs,copied script is not cinema its a shit
shirish lol just Bahubali doesn't mean south better bollywood they are worse than bollywood south repeats revenge stories same action masala with stupid comedy movies
Am Rio Baahubali is not the only south Indian film! There was Vikram Vedha, Aruvi in Tamil, Take Off( which is crassly made in Bollywood as Tiger Zinda Hai) in Malayalam, Shuddhi in Kannada, and Arjun Reddy in Telugu. All of these movies were anything but action or masala movies and had great scripts and lesser known actors, not stars. ( except Madhavan in Vikram Vedha) Do your research before commenting. Even foreigners know about different Indian movies in different Indian languages, but our own Indians don't.
niveg06 I'm talking about majority south which are same masala repeated over top actions
Am Rio That's mainly the Telugu Industry! If you are ignorant, there are 4 industries in the south. The Malayalam industry mainly produces movies with good content. There are no dream sequences or item songs or party songs. The Tamil Industry produces a mix of both. Stop watching dubbed movies in Set Max, and judging South Indian movies.
niveg06 then why don't they dubbed hindi these movies of u are talking instead of same masala stories with stupid action
This is why i prefer Rajeev Masand's roundtable than Anupama's adda any given year
1. Choice of guests- rajeevs's guests are way more interesting, just watch his directors roundtable2017. I have forgotten how many times i have seen these same set of people(karan/Ekta) talking. Even the guests seem bored!
2. interesting conversation- Rajeevs choice of questions, the way he steers the whole interview is a delight for the audience,
3.Professional approach and conduct of the interviewer-I am truly fed up with Anupama's fangirlish attitude towards its guests, 1 min into it and it puts you off grossly. I think she forgets, she is a journo and not just wife of a film director who is friends with the film industry.
We are into 2018, and piracy today is bigger than ever. Did anyone talk about that?
Anupama thank you.for this interview.i always used to skip content from your channel by looking at titles. Continue with such content
Ronnie is immensely talented 😯
KJo talking about good content?! LOL. How does it make any difference? You will continue to make crappy sagas with Varun, Alia, Siddharth etc. Today's audience is waaaay more intelligent. You say, "Today's writers are not empowered"..well, then what have you been doing all these years? Yet, you fall flat. So what you say makes no sense.
Neel Vaidya you are talking about content and actors combined? How on Earth is content related to actors in the movie?
I am talking about the kind of movies he makes - which is crappy sagas (content). And even if he keeps using the same actors, he does not challenge them at all. Today's Indian cinema is rapidly changing and the audience is more intelligent. Audience is more interested in content today, not just banners. What he says here in this interview seems irrelevant based on what he has done so far (unless he is planning to change the way he makes movies, give "actors" a challenge (not "friends") with good content). He recently produced, Kapoor and Sons by Shakun Batra was also about a dysfunctional family (family drama), and that was BRILLIANT. Would it have been as BRILLIANT if he "directed" it? Not sure.
I completely agree about his movies having a little less content. Even I didn't like many of his movies except my name is Khan. (I'm talking about movies he direcred not the ones which he produced.)
Also I completely agree he is know for repeating his actors and in some cases movies too...XD
But what you are saying is that he is giving opportunities to act in the lead roles only to his friends and not other actors. I lost you there.
The actors working in a film don't have anything to do with content of the film.
I just asked you to not link the casting of a film with it's content.
I am not linking them. They are two different things. Having said that, somewhere I feel he makes films "for his already pre-determined cast". And that is why his content gets a hit. And that is also why I feel what he says here is hypocritical. Will he ever try to invest in the writing, and then cast actors based on the writing? I don't think so. His writing is based on the actors. Or at least it seems like it. I would be surprised if he can prove the contrary. The next movie he is going to direct is Student of the Year 2! He is going to keep pouring his money on those actors, and then craft a story around them. He is more of a businessman than a creative artist.
Yeah, now that makes sense! I totally agree with that predetermined cast. And is his next movie really student of the year 2? Sorry I'm from South and I don't know much about what going on there. It was nice talking to you by the way. :)
I don't want this to end😭😭
It's so much fun lisning to all this
Wow ! Ekta and Karan talking sense. The reason why you can't pull audiences to the theatre because now we have good options and better content on other mediums and to get us to the theatre you've to up the ante. No one will spend their hard earned money for some substandard mediocre event film. An event film has to be something like PK, Bajrangi bhaijaan, Bajirao Mastani, Yeh jawaani hai deewani etc. The marriage of commerce and art should be there. They need to strike a fine balance between that and it can only be done by functioning in a proper way. Cutting promotional costs and giving a long rope to writers will help. Empowering writers is the need of this hour.