The ONE thing the 11900K is good for!
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"turns out, I just really like crazy numbers"
Truer words have never been spoken about XOC.
World record talkshow thing where you either talk with people in a voice chat/get info and then talk solo about it? I'd be up for that
I do miss the old OCTV show, so many things have changed since then, so not sure if now is even a good time to consider a return if at all possible. it is always fun when BZ or GN chats with others in the industry. B)
About the video, it's not a dumb format. At all. Cool to learn about the benches and the crazy scores, and having one of those every once in a while explaining why some score got hugely better while others seem stuck is a nice idea. Will definitely look forward to more videos like this!
lol still first
second kek
DId you try to play NFS 2015 with Unite mod on?
LUL
LMAO
Kekw
"Gear 2 mode go brrrr" lol I love when you just blurt out memes. Also we want more HWBOT videos whenever possible :)
45:28
Just realized what i've been doing for the past 45 minutes... great!...
I like the format! Hearing you break down/talk about the scores and hardware is super interesting.
You didn't put any youtube ads in to interrupt you, so it's a great video!
1:25 yes, pls turn this into a regular thing
That's such a baller move from ASUS! I respect it, and hope they don't ever give it up, although I would understand if they also did the same thing with fewer cores in addition to the all-core oc
it's great having competition in xoc. with both gigabyte and asrock rejoining, performance are being pushed harder
I like @Buildzoid’s idea to cover a few set of scores rather than a 45 minute video.
But still always love hearing him passionately talk about extreme oc
Ok you convinced me, I ll buy 11900k now
Hahaha , silly nab
Better buy Liquid Nitrogen canisters with it.
bruh
@@nityanandsaswade5003 if possible liquid helium tanks
I enjoyed this video alot! Really hope to see more videos like this in the future!
i like the CPU Frequency submissions that leave all of the Cores enabled. because it's harder to do that, i think it's more impressive. :)
Totally. May as well stick to modern celeron otherwise
The mini interviews are a good ide with the overclockers, some input about the rig or the process would be nice! Good content btw
I like the news! Totally great to listen to your thoughts on these
Semiregular benchmark score news/discussion series? I'm in for sure.
I like your long videos haha I don't mind rambling, I do it too so I can't complain
I personally really like videos like this where you're talking about things you like, without scripting or strict formatting.
Yay for this format. pleas do more :D
you attached a rocket to your car and then a trailer
me who tows several tons at 150 in v8
kek
Great informative video! Sat through the entire 49 minutes
i really enjoyed this one, its a perspective on hardware you dont get if you arent in the xoc scene with at least one foot. and reviews have mostly been "waste of sand" so getting to hear something else was a nice change of pace.
also, about the as few cores as possible vs all cores when going for max clockspeed: imo, getting the biggest number is impressive, period. however, getting the biggest number, or a number very close to it, with all cores enabled is at least as impressive, if not a display of luck (because you have a core thats equally good across the board, or which has very high clocking lemon cores).
it could be interesting to check/compare results by treating max frequency in general and max frequency all cores enabled as separate categories
Definitely a cool video!
3mins in and we have already seen the 11900k is slower than an fx8350. Bad news for bintel.
I don't know if you are aware of this, but Ryzen isn't capable of doing 512 AVX - it isn't implemented.
So good luck trying to find a Ryzen score in the Y-Cruncher benchmark.
I have to say bench wise im having a fun time with the 11900k...
For normal air and water cooling is there an advantage in using TG Cryonaut over Hydronaut or even Aeronaut?
I guess those names refer to the cooling type one is running, right?
I’d like to start getting into XOC but I can’t afford the equipment for LN2. What are your thoughts on using dry ice instead?
G'day Buildzoid,
I really enjoyed the Format of this video, although not planning to do it myself I have been enjoying the LN2 OC content from You, G/N, Bearded Hardware & Jay, I liked Joe's comment "It's like Top Fuel Drag Racing for PCs" so going through the records & having some explanation of how they get there is really Cool,
Although not going to the extreme of LN2 I have been gathering parts for OCing with Air & AIO cooling on LGA1155, I have made myself a TestBench with an ASUS Maximus V Extreme, for CPUs to play with I have Pentium G2120, i3-3240, i5-3570K & i7-3770K, as I want to see how Core scaling also behaves,
For GPUs I have an ASUS RX570Strix, Sapphire RX480Nitro+ (which I have had to 1440MHz stable in Heaven) plus 2 GTX760s, a Gigabyte OC 2GB & EVGA SC 4GB, I am hoping to get some better than 1600MHz Green PCB RAM too but it's not really a good time to expand my setup,
I am learning quite a bit from your content & when something hasn't sunk in it is great I can go back & watch again,
Thanks for all the "Awesome' OC content
With fairly minimal effort you could bench dry ice. There are a few decent pots for that out there you might be able to scoop up for cheap used or if you want a decent evaporator for cheapish you can make one on a good drill press if your careful about the design. Just a idea for you to consider
@@Onewolfoc G'day, yeah that would be good & I did think about it, but due to a head injury that has cause nerve damage I shake similar to Parkinson's Disease,
so it is not that I don't want to go SubZero I'm too messy to go SubZero, I struggle to even pour myself a drink in a normal cup without making a huge mess, I would need a pot the size of an ITX mobo 🙄, Air & AIO's are the way to go for me 😁,
I have a good Coolerbox so if I get bored with Air & stock AIO I am was thinking of extending an AIO to use that as a reservoir with ice in the water,
I have extended one before to add a GPU, but I just needed a little help refilling, my cousin is happy to do that but as he is not into computers so he will get really bored & cranky if I ask him to help me bench all day SubZero 😞
@@shaneeslick well I'm sorry to hear about your injury. Sounds like you have quite a bit though there. I'm not sure if you would be into the idea or not but I think I might have a idea for you to get a little more overclocking headroom that might be worth a thought. Sounds like you can pretty well do water cooling. Would it be possible for you to do a water chiller? Or single or multi stage phase ? You can convert a window AC unit fairly easily into a water chiller or if your good with a bit lesser performance a HC500 would work pretty well and get you around 0 degrees enough that you could get a bit more headroom. I'm not sure if any of those ideas would work for you or even if you'd be interested either. I just thought I'd toss the idea out there. I also have a idea on how a evaporator for dry ice could be modified to possibly suit your needs if you really wanted to pursue any of this stuff further. Just some thoughts - from a friendly neighborhood nerd :)
@@Onewolfoc yeah they seem like good ideas for 'maybe in the future', I am still rearranging thigs to give me room in my little Unit/Apartment so I can even have the Testbench setup full time, as at the moment I have to use my PC Desk or Dining Table, I am looking at making myself a space for a desk with shelves plus a Flat Surface big enough for the Test bench & to build LEGO as that's what I do for hand-eye coordination therapy, but I will get there, just gotta take one day at a time 😁
@@shaneeslick well wish you the best and have fun benching!
Buildzoid would I experience more benefit in my 2700x build adding another 16 gig of my trident Z 3200mhz CL16 or replacing it with 16GB of Patriot Viper Steel.
My current memory is E-Die Samsung
7:38 i think there is a good case to be made that getting a certain frequency on all cores is a harder achievement, than getting it on just one. It could be a different category.
nah going through all the cores on a CPU to find the best one takes more time and CPU-z valids are basically just a binning + time sink.
@@ActuallyHardcoreOverclocking I dont agree. Since they are the motherboard builder being able to show 7.3 Ghz on all cores when another brand only manage 7.314 with just 3 cores actually show significant stability gain on a MB. At those kind of clockspeeds it very clear even the groupdelay times on the different copper leads and components have significant impact if it will work or not. That is why single dual core processors can clock so much higher. Meanwhile I agree the Asus team should have run also a low core sample.
Is it actually possible to get an accurate benchmark when it's running prioritised I/O and a pre-emptive kernel in the background?
I find the "how it's made" format very interesting.
As for length, it really does not bother me. To be honest, I can listen to a Buildzoid video while doing my own tinkering. Or while doing some menial task (I know Buildzoid loves sorting/tidying ;). Or I listen in 10, 15 or 20 minute sections.
So bottom line i shouldn't upgrade from my 9900k ? :P :P (great video man)
@@eplus341 Absolutely .I mean this 8 core back and forth thing drives me bonkers although i love Intel.In my case with Music Production and stuff i think stability is the goal where Intel thrives but boy that Thread ripper is really tempting (they do have compatibility issues with various softs and hardware ) . Bottom line again its a no for me. (8700k is great btw)
Still on my 8086K and 4790K.
Nope I'm keeping my 9900k till DDR5 RAM comes out at this point.
@@eplus341 I'm sill on an x58 LGA 1366 56xx at 4.6ghz all core stable for the last 11 years lol (it will do 5.2+ but I don't trust it at those voltages).
Until a graphics card needs more than PCIE 2 x16 to maximize its performance, I'm not upgrading, either lol. Almost nobody needs to unless they are using their computer as an actual workstation that utilize the crazy transfer speeds of PCIE 4.
@@eplus341 I am still rocking a 4790k and I don't see a reason to upgrade too. It is fine for 1080p gaming even today.
7:27 TRUTH
I used to get so much bad comment on 'WHY YOU DONT CLOCK ALL THE CORES' when doing XOC runs, when we're basically just trying to get a clock validation for a FASTEST SINGLE core on that silicon.
And now the funny part is that more CPU starts to support per-core ratio, we can have a situation where the CPU-Z will show that it is 'all-core' active, yet ONLY one of them actually being clocked that high - and the NEWS reporting it will still say it's an 'all-core' overclock :p
will you ever write english versions of your reviews?
@@milchkopf3881 Sorry, my english is pretty bad and probably not suited for written review. But still learning though, so I might do it if there's spare time :)
I think if you want to help get more people into XOC, you should make a video on which OS to use for a given benchmark, and how to properly config / mod said OS.
I imagine some OS tweaks are closely guarded secrets...but a lot of them are probably common knowledge among all of the top OCers.
Why not compile those commonly known OS mods into a video for anyone that is considering getting into XOC, to help level the playing field a little?
Newbies are still going to have all the disadvantages of not knowing what they're doing and not having unlimited funds to buy and bin tonnes of hardware.
This would make the formidable uphill battle ahead of them seem less daunting and encourage newcomers IMO.
ROG CPUZ shows different voltage. I dont know what it measures though, its not vcore.
Did anyone tell you that you could do a voice over for Kermit the Frog? I'm confident your voice can be used for a convincing illusion of extending original content with people thinking it was old, lost and recently found.
It's a good idea for a channel, that has "overclocking: in it's name, to keep tabs on the best overclocking scores in the world.
I wonder what the max benching frequency is on that chip
You probably know by now but I'm pretty sure CPUz wasn't reading voltage correctly
Buildzoid is MY bestfriend:)
You might get some power balancing if more than 1 core is active... but may not need all cores active.
Cool that Rauf is high in the scores. He is Swedish and hangs out on the same OC forum as me. I am not a hard-core OC though just running a 9700K at 5ghz on an AIO so pretty casual.
You said "If they built the 1100k on 10 nanometer it might clock even worse". Then I fell asleep, but if you didn't address this later in the video, maybe you could do another one where you drive your race car around and ramble about Rocket Lake. I love those rambling race car videos. I am also not opposed to making more HWBOT monthly videos. I might learn something.
I think the reasl question is... why is Buildzoid getting 5 OURA smart rings adds...
How is it that the old AMD fx 8 core CPUs didn't fry when running at 1.34v and these rocket lake cpus need liquid nitrogen?
Wow... Intel really should include water block+pump combo as stock cooler or something!
It worked for AMD!
Ln2 pot and tank of ln2
This was interesting.
"The ONE thing the 11900K is good for!"
Setting DDR4 world records.
HI Question....
That 5200 C14 ram...
What brand of manufacturer? And die???
Samsung B-die
@@ActuallyHardcoreOverclocking wow. Ok.
I have the 4400 viper kit. My tune is garbage I guess, lop
At 12:45 you say their operational systems are properly setup... Is there a video or any kind of guide on this? Or any chance you'd make a rant-utorial for us plebs?
It seems that people are using geekbench 3, Why is that, isn't there already geekbench 5 available? or am I missing something?
I got into ln2 about a year and a half ago, and buying hardware and ln2 without help is very difficult to compete. I still enjoy doing it.
Did you transition to dry ice first or right from ambient to ln2? Maybe a chiller or phase either?
@@Onewolfoc tried dry ice first, did it one time. I went right to ln2 after that due to how messy dry ice is.
@@Apollo-Computers really huh i went to dry ice awhile ago been having a hell of a time getting ln2 around here for less then total robbery pricing (4USD/L) never had a issue with the pots I've been building and designing far as the mess though I have a extended top and a gasket that most pots don't have. If you 3d print a pla gasket for existing commercial pots (like KPs, romans, bartx pots ect) they should seal assuming some pressure from the mounting hardware and keep any alcohol or acetone from splashing about to much or making it out from the machined surface between the copper base and the top.
@@Onewolfoc yes ln2 can be pricey, if I only get my 35l dewar filled I pay $2 litre, but if I get 180l tank delivered, it's $170 plus one year tank lease $300. My guy said he's going to get me a good discount and contract pricing when I order the big tank. But getting hardware is impossible for me atm.
@@Apollo-Computers yea I have the opposite problem in both aspects. I have hardware out the wazoo + the local airgas ln2 distro center is run by a total prick can't get anything better then highway robbery pricing when I know of many people in the US getting 2 bucks a L or even cheaper pricing from them. I have one other supplier I might be able to try but I can get dry ice so darn cheap (down to 65 cents a lb) so that's been a good option for me right now I till I can source ln2 for a reasonable price
I tested two chips now. But only at AIO. One 11700K and it was "crap", no more CInebench R20 than 4900 MHz. impossible to get higher. Now 11900K and can run up to 5200 MHz R20 (but at high voltage). And on the table I have 11900KF, propably I will test next week.
Can you please add timestamps?
I dont have so much internet to watch a full 49 min video
I mean we all knew rocket lake would need more cooling then an RBMK reactor
I've always wondered on how some XOC guys can fake vcore, like running 1.85v and having it show up at 1.1v in cpu-z.
Buildzoid, why don't you use liquid hydrogen as a cheap liquid helium alternative? ;) Of course best to use in an open space so not to blow up :)
I'm thinking if they would have kept the cache proportions equal to the Tiger Lake (1.25MB L2, 3MB L3 per core) it would probably keep up with Ryzen, and maybe even exceed it. The ones they released (512kB L2, 2MB L3 per core) just aren't good enough.
TGL is a completely different core design, and the die already is gigantic with this small amount of cache.
We're getting Alder Lake and the 8 core TGL CPUs soon anyways, nobody except overclockers should buy 11th gen
Larger cache comes with latency penalty. In fact, TGL is slower than ICL clock-for-clock in some benchamarks because of it.
they should have an all core freq bench and single... why not...?
We now need a Gear2Down mode now from nvidia to come full circle.
Celeron fam WHERE U AT??!
9:08 that Galax OC Fish is so fucking cute
Since updating my B450M Mortar BIOS to support SAM my memory timings are no longer stable and I am stuck with XMP. Not that it bothers me too much but it's a 'thing'. I was able to run 3600 DDR4 at 16 across the board with better subtimings. But now I am stuck at 18 across the board.
go back to old bios?
What cpu ?
I’m rooting for intel even tho I run amd in my computer. I want intel to succeed as competition is good for everyone. Look at the zen 3 prices. Obviously amd raised the prices knowing intel couldn’t compete on raw performance in either productivity or even gaming anymore. I am rooting for alder lake as I dont know what would happen if intel cant pump out a 10nm desktop chip next generation. I honestly think people wouldn’t buy intel anymore if they release ANOTHER 14nm chip after MORE 10m setbacks. Intel will always be fine as a company due to embedded systems and enterprise clients, but they might literally be done in the DIY market if they cant get alder lake out successfully. I am excited for alder lake though. Lastly I do hope we see a zen 3 refresh that stays on am4 so we have one more upgrade on our current am4 boards. Zen 3 + on either a more refined 7nm or a 5 or 6nm that isnt ready for zen 4 yet would be great. Imagine 5 ghz all core boost clocks with 5-10% more ipc than zen 3. All on am4. Thats my dream. I want one more upgrade on my current board as am5 will have some teething issues due to ddr5 and typical issues associated with new platforms.
Can someone recommend a Mobo for 5950x that’s great for overclocking the cpu and ram and not losing 8 gpu lanes when you pop in some gen 4 nvme ssds?
@@owowowdhxbxgakwlcybwxsimcwx sorry my question seems pretty shit looking back at it now. I believe most high end b550s have support for dropping down the GPU lanes to increase storage. dark hero viii seems like a good option but it’s always out of stock.
I think what I’m trying to figure out is what boards have the most advanced memory topology and power delivery. If it’s a b550 I’ll compromise on storage as long as I can have gen4 x16 for the gpu and one gen4 nvme slot. If it’s an x570 I won’t have to compromise but I’ve seen Bullzoid mention a lot of x570 boards are behind in memory topology.
How about the v2 x570 mobos from gigabyte ?
Does die lapping improve anything with LN2 cooling?
i'd say all dies of the cpus featured in this video were lapped
@@Onewolfoc I never mentioned IHS. I know direct die is a must. Die lapping is removing silicon, not polishing IHS.
47:00 yeah that would be really cool
Ian from Anand tech said in his UA-cam channel (Tech Tech potato) that 10nm would cost to much as the failure rate is high.
First thing on my mind: "testing paste"
Testing huge coolers?
My guess was "house heater".
Close.
Have you tried Coolalab products?
Their Liquid Pro/Ultra products were Conductonaut alternatives that were way cheaper but didn't last as long. But the latest formula (Extreme) seems to last really well while still being a third of the price of conductonaut.
Putting a rocket on your car and then towing a trailer sounds like a great way to vaporize your cargo
Maybe its an even better analogy that way
Did you call that Asrock OC Formula green? Don't think I'm colour blind, but it looks very yellow to me.
I can conform that its green. Could be your monitor !
It's blue
Yea that's yellow green it's kinda lime actually least from the pictures I've seen of it on asrocks site they do use green text on the web page for it so I figure they are going for more of a green vibe but it's very much more of a lime green with a fair bit of yellow hue in it
Look straight up gold to me. Idk how you could ever call that green with a properly calibrated monitor...
This is a cool videoformat.
show us your best scores.
Enjoyed........... thnx................. yep cool. new rls's , top scores........
I do like all core validations tho
for the same price roughly as an 11900k my 5900X gets 8400 in Cinebench R20 out of the box
Droopy LLC is my band name
I have a theory why ASUS may not be going 'all out' with single-core clocks, aside from that may have been an early beta BIOS with non-functional per core clocks. for a corporation that makes the part to be entering into a competition competing against individuals without access to trade-secrets of the parts, is a bit unsportsmanlike, especially if they're using the trade secrets to effectively cheat. so eh. a demo that their board is good, yet not going so far as to cheat, maybe.
Like to know where everybody is getting there 11900k chips from
"BRAVE n00b WORLD"
I see what you did there :)
so basicly the core architecture updates look promising?! cant wait for the the actual 10nm operational :D (or maybe like kaby and skylake wait for the second gen :D:D:D )
Hello i have a question since i know you like to play with memory, i have a R5 5600X on a msi tomahawk X570 MB and patriot 8G x 4 4133MHz Ram what should i run my timings at? when they are running at 3600 MHz or 3800 MHz.
How would he know? Every kit is different. Have to test and find out for yourself. Many guides on memory oc.
Start from 16 16 16 36 or something
running a stirling engine
I thought it was all core
Arctic MX5 is good ??? beter or worse Galid GC Extreame
UA-cam A.I. gone rogue.
Get a clean OS so we can see you in the Top 10
I could not even do 5ghz with 1.35v
keep calm and raise Vcore
Dude no reason to wonder about why there’s only 1 Ryzen in the top for the single core memory geekbench...benchmark. 🤓 I’m sure with your skills and patience you could get up there! 👊
Granted you do need a cooperative chip but seeing as this what you do that should be doable for you.
Hmm now -I- wonder how do all these overclockers get ahold of their chips...
This video isn't even appearing on the channel's "Videos" list. Looks like I'm early and UA-cam is broken again.
Dam are we fat shaming windows 7 now
Wait so how does using 10nm not allow it to clock better than 14nm?
It depends on the architecture and how long or how many stages the pipeline is. intel usually goes for longer pipeline which nets higher clocks (most of the time) at the expense of something else (i forget at the top of my head) while AMD tends to go for shorter pipelines thus lower clocks. It could be longer pipes may have more interference once you go smaller.
@@NightMotorcyclist you probably mean at the expense of ipc?
Their 10 nm process did not play nice when trying to scale it from lab based theory to a production ready level process. There goal was to shrink the process further to the level of tsmcs UV process tech. The first iteration of intels 10 they wanted to bring to market was utterly agressive and most of the companies in the space thought they were crazy when they announced the pitches and density of the parts they could make on existing Lithography machines without making the jump to eUV or UV light as a major portion of the litho process. They ended up trying to mix a lot more into the chips including cobalt to get it to work but the yeilds were trash. Later on intel took that 10 nm process and made it less agressive and dense to the tune of slightly less crazy then tsmcs current 7nm stuff without eUV anyways that's the process they shipped a few mobile parts on. Anyways usually these processes start production scale on the mobile side then as they improve they tweak the process and make desktop chips. The process optimizations that lead to less generally leaky chips tends to also on average lower their frequencies but at the boon of extreme efficiency (good for laptops and mobile while not so good for desktops and overclocking) so they play with the process and optimize it for higher clock speeds though usually this means the inverse where it makes the chips generally a little more leaky overall. Intel took a gamble and it dint pay off....however if their gamble payed off they would of got a entire generation and likely a refresh off existing payed for Lithography machines which would of improved their profit margins for a few years.
@@miniweeddeerz1820 I did at first but was second guessing it as there may have been ways to mitigate this with new architectures.
@@NightMotorcyclistprobably yeah.
I generally lean towards AMD doing good things these days. However - just my thoughts on the 11x family.
1. Intel continues to FUCKING AMAZE me with what they squeeze out of 14nm. Amaze. That being said, its reheat/rehash - and you can only do this so long.
2. The high end isn't interesting. As much as people might squeeze more out on LN or similar, the 11900k and similar is just sat as far as you can go. Its too expensive.
3. Intel midrange is priced right, perf is good, its available in channel. AM4 is basically now end of life, so the Mobo/socket challenge of 'upgrade-able' is done for AMD. This is a hard budget space, so its about good price/perf and not being overly concerned about much beyond that.
4. The XE drivers will be out in a few weeks. A huuuuuuuuuuuuge chunk of die space is due to the GPU piece. I don't know what that perf will be, but - BUT - if its actually AMD beating its a game changing piece given how crippled GPU space is right now.
5. I still 'technically' prefer AMD, but we're back to a state now where its all well beyond 4 core count, and we as the consumers win win win. Amazing time as its a window of exploding innovation that had basically died until AMD started gamechanging.
Nuff said.
Rocket Lake's iGPU only has 32EUs, so it isn't going to be great. Fully enabled, Tiger Lake has 96EUs, and it wins sometimes against the AMD APUs and loses sometimes.
The Xe graphics are going to be fine for desktop use, you get Quick Sync video encoding (which is better than the awful old encoder in AMD APUs), and Intel has better Linux support. But AMD is still going to be better for APU gaming than Rocket Lake. Of course, even something like an RX 580 or a 1060 will run circles around any APU.
My 10900KF would run my GSKILL 3600 Trident Royal Z in XMP on my MSI Z490 Godlike mobo, but when I swapped in the 11900K yesterday, that CPU will not POST in XMP. 2666 is all it will do. I shot an email to MSI, and they replied, "seem like the processor's memory controller does not like the XMP setting with your memory module."
the 11th gen BIOSs right now are very unfinished.
just select the frequency see if the board will train on its own. if it does post its a certain timing that 11th gen doesnt like. if not then its bios issues
@@bigcazza5260 I've been working with it all afternoon, but it won't POST above 2666. I tried setting a manual frequency just one step above stock 2666 in the BIOS with no luck. I agree with Buildziod's & John Jenkins' repies, which is why I emailed MSI to let them know. I was surprised that in less than 6 hours, MSI replied and blamed the CPU's memory controller. I had at least hoped they would take a closer look at the issue.
@@ActuallyHardcoreOverclocking Thank you , I'll keep running with stock memory timings for now and hope that MSI stops blaming the CPU's memory controller. That reply from them was a bit disturbing.
@John Jenkins Thanks, but I decided when I got the Z490 Godlike that it and the Z490 Ace would be the only MSI mobos in the LGA1200 lineup for me. I've got two Maximus XII Hero mobos as well, but they don't have Gen 4 M.2 sockets, so 10th gen CPUs are staying in them. The 10900KF went into the MSI Ace mobo, since it doesn't have an IGPU power stage anyway, so I've got the 10900KF and 11900K systems side by side.
According to a certain site, the 11900k (or was it 10900k) is by far the fastest CPU up to 8 cores. I wonder if that is the truth if running non stop with a full constant workload. I still wouldn't buy it for that because it loses by a higher percentage for work done per watt.